Dry Dock: Guns Comparison. Which ship is the most powerful?

[@WorldofWarshipsOfficialChannel]

What do you think about today's episode? Which ship in your collection is the most powerful?:)

[@pitogyros0793]

Look I like the shape but I don't like American because it's not good I say why you don't have one video of Germany please one video Germany win it again or that

[@soarinskies1105]

Nice reupload

[@bullreeves1109]

Its over all good though you did leave some ships out that would have made a good fit like Montana etc.

[@pitogyros0793]

Oh I got to ask you something again 😃 you can to play one gameplay of theand to see what shape is the best in the world of warships. That is the next video find the best ships in the

[@pitogyros0793]

War of warships

[@kingswagii1607]

There’s a certain irony in measuring Yamato’s salvo weight per minute with Avenger torpedo bombers.

[@Darkedge361]

this comment wins

[@danielyakam2437]

underrated

[@nelsoncheng2674]

Such sadness.

[@tumppu1975]

Should have counted kremlins and quite a few others' as paperweights.

[@Davidsladky135]

Salute

[@Mushrakun]

Montana falls into irrelevancy again, just like in the game.

[@KlerikerNero]

At least Kremlin was in the list.

[@madkoala2130]

Still destroys smolsnks at 10 km.

[@prisuners6275]

You want relevancy? Play Iowa

[@krayvok1]

I think it's the captain driving the Monty. Not the ship it's self mate.

[@Mushrakun]

@@krayvok1 Definitely, the captain is what counts. Now compare what that same captain can do in many other tier 10 battleships after the armor changes to cruisers.

[@GiuseppeNelva]

"Based on Real Specifications" -> Shows paper ships.

[@DrPsych0piroman]

and it doesn't even mean anything in game, yea you can shove 25T of shels at someone, but if nothing hits, you wasted 25t of material ( + propelant)

[@stevenmoore4612]

I mean it is wargaming we are talking about here! 😂😂

[@pikkozoikum8523]

but paper ships can be based on real specification, can't be?

[@finol6127]

Pikko Zoikum key word there is ‘can be’ Kremlin wasn’t full stop.

[@kris220b]

@@pikkozoikum8523 Yes but you can only pre-calculate and plan so much. Not all things on paper work out exactly the same IRL.

[@Ghostychan]

Iowa: 22,000 kg in 3 turrets... that makes 29,333.33kg kg in 4 Turrets for Montana. Well, better not add it, because obviously the Russian ship has to have the heaviest broad side

[@ME262MKI]

And at the same time having the smallest broadside of every BB

[@stazbloodlad339]

shouldnt Gk have about the same?

[@matthewrabel5035]

@@stazbloodlad339 US BBs had heavier shell-weights for each respective shell size compared to other nations, for the most part.

[@finol6127]

It’s all a load of crap they can’t be bothered to get their numbers right. Iowa’s Broadside was around 11,000kg depending on the shells used.

[@beware3586]

@@finol6127 Ya the wiki says maximum armor shell weight was 2,700 lbs. so 9 of those makes 24,300

[@Poctyk]

Shikishima? (35t) Ohio (30t)? Montana (29t)? (Vermont isn't out so okay) Jean Bart? Alsace? KGV??? (They might not be strong but, especially Jean Bart, are sure more famous then RU wankships) WG: LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU SOVIET THE STRONGEST.

[@irfanefatenight8816]

How much weight the vermont gonna be?

[@Poctyk]

@@irfanefatenight8816 Well with 40 sec reload and current shells -- 31t. If WG will wake up and change to something more reasonable like 35 sec -- 36t. That's why I am okay with Vermont not being included, it can change radically. Something like Dunkerque, an actually important design being outright ignored is retarded

[@johntaylor4975]

Um you realize that you are measuring in tons but WG is measuring in Kg.

[@gerardgauthier3551]

@@johntaylor4975 and you realize thats the same thing ? 1t = 1000kg

[@matthewrabel5035]

@@johntaylor4975 He means metric tons, which is 1000kg per metric ton

[@tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835]

So Kremlin is here but Montana the OG tier 10 BB still not? And how about Shikishima? Only reason for not putting Montana is to say: ''LOOK! SOVIET BB BEST BB!'' What a joke... Edit: thx for all likes! And don't forget that Izmail is stronger than NC and Iowa KEKW

[@athras8822]

@@TheEdwin73 Yamato's 460mm shells weigh way less than Georgia and Ohio's 257mm shells. Plus, Montana's 12 SHS and slightly lower reload would blow away Kremlin's 9 shells. Honestly tho, they should have made this video with only ships that actually existed and actually shot in anger... otherwise it's just theoretical. Kinda like saying how would you know how fast the Russian sailors can shoot when the last battleship they ever shot from was Gangut/October Revolution?

[@tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835]

@@TheEdwin73 Yes well spotted, but I am also not a big fan of title "Which ship is the most powerfull", because you can't measure ships performance by just a one statistic. Especially since how many ships on list never existed and even blueprints WG had to finish themselves.

[@1teamski]

You are not making sense. A good number of ships listed never existed. Not listing the Montana was disengenious to say the least.

[@tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835]

@@1teamski I agree with you. They should have included only real ships. But in that case they would have nothing to show their Russian player base. That's why we have Kremlin in the top and Izmail being stronger ship than Iowa and NC. I just hate how they did not include certain ships, just so they could show how good are the soviet ships that didn't even exist.

[@x_quinn_x9179]

Well you Can't have paper Montana with 29,333 kg salvo weight being above the paper Russian lol

[@vermas4654]

Great, you fixed the Bismarck. Now you just need to add Montana

[@fredogknopfler]

Let's get this straight: either you show a full list of all BBs in game with their broadsides (in kg or kg/min, whatever, idc about that although is likely to bias data), or you show a top list with the heaviest hitters. This cherrypicking of what ships to put on, adding paper ships so no excuse to leave anyone out, but leaving out Montana, Shikishima and others seems pretty much like the only reason this video exists is to say "KREMLIN STRONG"

[@henryherold4515]

Yeah, I'm going to call bullcrap on Kremlin having a heavier broadside than USS Montana. And seeing as we're talking shots delivered per minute, most of the lower tier ships, owing to the fact that Kremlin can't cycle its guns fast enough to fire two salvoes in a minute, it probably actually gets outperformed by Kurfurst, Conqueror, Yamato, Ohio, and possibly Republique too. Maybe Shikishima, but as enormous as those shells are, only six barrels does hurt its chances here. USS Vermont: D E A T H I S A P R E F E R A B L E A L T E R N A T I V E T O C O M M U N I S M .

[@arctictiger8690]

@@henryherold4515 Plus the Iowas (and probably the Montanas, if they were ever built) had nuclear shells

[@luismurillo2213]

Haha stronk russian bias, stronk stalinium, stronk societ union What a joke...

[@ivanbima5877]

Hey, the developer also Russian. So what you expect?

[@timclaus8313]

@@henryherold4515 And how does the North Carolina have a heavier broadside than Iowa???

[@franz_stigler]

Hmm Montana is suspiciously...absent.

[@Gredoxx]

Be a real shame if an American ship won wouldn't it

[@someoneyoudontknow4920]

@@Gredoxx yeah but there also is no shikishima that would've won if it was in the list :/

[@Gredoxx]

@@someoneyoudontknow4920 never said she would, I just stated she has the heaviest shells in the game, tho it is a possibility since she does also boast a 26 second reload

[@I-02]

@@someoneyoudontknow4920 Not exactly. Those 20" guns would never reload as fast as 16" guns and there is only six of them compared to twelve 16" guns. Montana would still have a heavier broadside than Shikishima.

[@Klimotine]

@@I-02 the shikishimas guns do reload faster than the 16inch guns in game 27-25ish with the reload module, plus its more than likely they'd be SIGNIFICANTLY heavier than a 16incher so its likely it would of been heavier

[@stevenmoore4612]

But why do they include warships that weren’t even real? If we were counting “real life” ships here then it would be Yamato as the most powerful followed by Iowa, Bismarck, Vanguard, Richelieu, South Dakota, North Carolina, Nagato, Littorio, Nelson, and King George V classes. They are ranked as the most powerful battleships in “History”! The most powerful definitely wouldn’t be that fake OP thing called “Kremlin” Lol😂😂😂

[@bigmonkey1254]

well all the guns on these paper-ships were developed by their respective nations.

[@satoriakihiro1283]

Russian bias mate

[@tobichallanger]

Actually no, the 18" from Yamato are big, but not that powerfull for their size. If i'm not wrong the the british 15" with supercharges had more penetration, range and rounds per minute. Just less explosives. And the Littorios 15" guns are theoretically more powerfull than Bismarcks, they just had quality controll issues with the shells. In my opinion you cant say "most powerfull", you would need to say "best in this situation". And dont forget the american 8" shell thrower with 10+ rounds per minute.

[@bigmonkey1254]

@@tobichallanger this is very true. this vid is mostly just salvo weight comparison. the soviets valued big numbers but their guns weren't always the best in many situations. not sure how they forgot montana though.

[@Catcrumbs]

You meant 'definitely'.

[@Riznek]

Where is Montana?

[@tyrodin_]

Obviously the Kremlin paper ship is the most powerful with laser precision and stalinium balistics, not even talking about the turret traverse, mmmmm im missing something oh really the hidden armour plates and the angled broadside.

[@luismurillo2213]

Da da, more stronk soviet paper, WG is about to win a medal for his service to the union for the great bias on his game, git gud montana

[@b-17gflyingfortress6]

Ok they fixed Roma's tier and name of Bismarck. Still no Montana or Vermont sadly

[@lord_crush777]

What was wrong with bismarcks name? They also forgot thunderer shikishima and that one french ship you can get for steel

[@maniaclife6433]

@@lord_crush777 They accidentally named Bismarck as "bismark"

[@lord_crush777]

@@maniaclife6433 that just goes to show how much they care about there games

[@Starfleet8555]

To be fair Vermont is still considered a test ship

[@lord_crush777]

I wanted to be a cc a few years ago but now i just find legends as the better game you can literally get top tier ships for like 2500 doubloons

[@PreetDakemon]

So lovely they try push Kremlin to the heaviest spot, to then come to realize it's not only because Montana isn't included because it would be the heaviest, it's also because they're hatred towards Germany so GK won't be on no.1 (with Montana excluded as in the video). GK broadside weight, calculating 2 salvos since approx. 1 min. 12 guns multiplied by the shell weight (1,030 kg for 406 mm, 1,220 kg for 420 mm). GK broadside weight, 2 salvos, approx. 1 min: 24,760 kg (406 mm) 29, 280 kg (420 mm). Kremlin broadside weight, calculating 2 salvos since approx. 1 min. 9 guns multiplied by the shell weight (1,373 kg) Kremlin broadside, 2 salvos, approx. 1 min: 24, 714 kg. Take note, GK reload for 2 salvos is 64 seconds for the 420 mm guns, Kremlin reload for 2 salvos is 66 seconds. So Russian paper get inflated stats, but even then it's not enough for their satisfaction, so they even bump it up even further. [Extra note for Montana, 2 salvos (as in the kg/min), 12 guns for a shell weight of 1,225 kg: 2 x 12 x 1,225 kg = 29,400 kg]

[@antoniohagopian213]

Kremlin shells are supposed to be 1730kg AP and 1300kg HE sooo yeahhh

[@CadetChris_97]

Antonio Hagopian if you check WG’s own wiki on the Kremlin it’s AP/HE shell weight is 1373 kg.

[@ovilexx7744]

Vermont : so adorable

[@kousand9917]

@@ovilexx7744 yeah nothing compares to this broadside anymore.

[@Embrarer]

of course imaginary russian bias ship needs to win, it was predictable, anyway, where is montana?

[@warhead9865]

Whats a Montana?

[@jqbogus]

The video includes ships that never actually existed. Some of them were actually started, but were cancelled before completion. Some of them were designed, but never started. And some of them were just planned, with no actual design work being done. Who knows how much of the 'plan' was even realistic, and how much was hype. The USS Montana was one of these "never actually existed" ships from the USA. Armament-wise, it was basically an Iowa with a fourth turret, for a total of twelve 16"/50 cal mk 7 guns (the same gun used on the Iowa class) It would have a higher 'throw weight' of any of the other ships in the video, but was somehow not included. P.S. If you were asking "whats a Montana" sarcastically, then ignore this reply.

[@warhead9865]

Jqbogus Maybe i should ignore it. But How about i dont? It was sarcastic tho^^

[@Ghostychan]

Why is Montana?

[@matthewrabel5035]

How is Montana Not very good

[@Myomer104]

"...based on real specifications of artillery mounts, guns, and shells." Republique: No such gun was ever designed Großer Kürfurst: No such mount was ever designed Conqueror, Kremlin, Ismail, Sinop: Gun, much less mount, never left the drawing board Sovetsky Soyuz, Izumo: Mount never completed

[@siralanturing9103]

they left our montana and musashi, that's not fair. Montana was a finalized draft, while Musashi existed as the sister ship of Yamato. But in this show? *pfft*

[@karlchenkarolinger5799]

@@siralanturing9103 why put in musashi. she carried the same guns as yamato had

[@siralanturing9103]

@@karlchenkarolinger5799 Musashi's shell volume was increased compared to Yamato, that accounted for even heavier shell payload, as well as extremely poor dispersal.

[@nikoolix]

@@siralanturing9103 You have a source for that? Yamato's and Musashi's guns and shell handling systems were completely identical IRL.

[@silincer5186]

I think yamato and Musashi shell are identical. In-game it's different but irl they are completely identical with similar refit too, Musashi was lost early so later Yamato have more refit/upgrade. Yamato in-game is the Musashi. Musashi in-game is the Yamato before her refit.

[@marvelous5038]

Soo they put North Carolina and Iowa but not Montana that’s messed up

[@johnzgamez810]

Not to mention that somehow, despite firing the literal same shell and having nigh identical reload times (except for Washington and New Jersey, those two didn't care about the fact that they were only supposed to reload every 30 seconds, they just said "Fuck it, Stalin was right for once" and threw shit at the wall), North Carolina comes out heavier on her broadside. Makes sense.

[@Darksidex66]

Love that the epic music started when Yamato appears

[@BlablaPaige]

So you put Lyon and Republique who are paper ship, but no Jean Bart, RIchelieu or Dunkerque?

[@lordmaximus5955]

Paper or not, the guns are still powerful

[@antoniohagopian213]

Its the same guns so why bother put it multiple times bruhh

[@BlablaPaige]

@@antoniohagopian213 ??? Lyion is 340mm Dunkerque 330mm Richelieu/JB: 380mm Republique: 431mm The only ship to have the same gun are Bretagne, Normandie and Lyon, and all 3 are in the video

[@renown6386]

@@BlablaPaige Ingame Lyon has 305mm instead or 340mm

[@andraskovacs8959]

Mostly paper-ships with the bigger guns, so my reaction is "Meh". I get it that for balance between countries you need paper ships in the game, but if you wanna cite historical facts, you should stick to real ships that actually existed... it started off so good, then went tits-up rather fast...

[@bigmonkey1254]

all the paper-ships have guns that were developed by their respective nations

[@claytondewberry1816]

@@bigmonkey1254 were the 406mm and 420mm German guns in the game actually developed?

[@bigmonkey1254]

@@claytondewberry1816 i don't think they were completed but i'm pretty sure they could be designed with german engineering practice. the germans simply preferred double-barrels over triples for the increased caliber so triple-barrels weren't too common

[@antoniohagopian213]

@@claytondewberry1816 probably in small testing samples, hell they did the gustav tank 800m gun so why the fuck are you surprised about a 406mm one?😂

[@antoniohagopian213]

All the guns on those ships have been actually designed/made in real life by their country, you might say Soviet paper ship but the guns on those ships were actually BUILT and not just designed

[@LarryW91964]

This was interesting, of course the heavy use of ships that never existed was pretty sad. Worse was the exclusion of ships that would have been high in the list. At the very least, all the tier 10 and 9 BBs should have been there, not picking and choosing among them. That or stick to those that actually sailed.

[@TheSaberra]

Try again, you may get it right after some time

[@terron7840]

Yamato: I have so many imaginary friends

[@Cycle356]

imaginary yes more like nightmare to yamato 6:05

[@Gredoxx]

*Fun fact* : Kremlin Shell weight is 1373kg and it has a 33 second reload, Yamato has 1460kg shell weight with a 30 second reload, and you're telling me Kremlin wins? And as many people said Georgia with the reduced reload of 26 seconds and USN 457mm AP that weights 1746kg would still be waaaaay up there, and Montana having 12 guns on a shell weight of 1225kg would be competitive, but ofc let's not forget Shikishima with her 6 guns reloading at 26 seconds having a ridiculous shell weight of *2620kg* an obvious winner in sheer weight so yeah not sure how to take this BASED or how most of us would call it, BIASED list...

[@stevenhannweg1644]

Put all of the blueprint ships out and yamato is the clear winner...

[@Gredoxx]

@@stevenhannweg1644 Absofuckinglutely no competition

[@Poctyk]

>WG can't even do basic math. I now understand their balancing department

[@cl4ster17]

Kremlin used to have heavier shells when it did 15.5k per shell. 1741kg per shell if my math is correct.

[@Poctyk]

@@cl4ster17 When it did 15.5k it had 1583 kilo shells.

[@sanderklop4816]

What?!?!?! WG, you forgot to list the rest of the Russian Bias paper ships! Please tell me more on how these ruled the waves...

[@Milliardo5]

Forget about all the other things in this vid; I want to know when we can have a port like this where we can have all our ships together.

[@raulalexandrubota]

Now that would be amazing!

[@Rhaumar]

USS Missouri (BB-63), during Operation Desert Storm, was able to get 3 rounds per minute out of Turret 3, and 2 rounds per minute out of Turrets 1 and 2. Great crew in Turret 3, where I was the Turret Electrician.

[@Sseltraeh89]

so... Roma is VIII now and Bismarck found his C, but everything else is the same incorrect mess of irrelevant numbers?

[@gushterell7989]

Yes, Iowa and Yamato have they numbers correct, but paper ships are bullshit, just placed there to please WG preferences and help them in the process of attracting more Russians into the game.

[@Sseltraeh89]

@@gushterell7989 North Carolina is correct using in-game RoF and real-life shell weight. Iowa is off by 50 kg for some weird reason, despite using the same shells with the same RoF as NC. And many other real ships are way off, Roma by almost 4 tons for example.

[@legoseller4496]

The comparison with vehicles as a reference of mass is inspired.

[@its1110]

If they'd stuck with the same units throughout. Comparing to things people have real experience with is a good idea. But then their good idea fell off the edge of the Flatt Erff.

[@mooneym.3642]

German BB guns are the best. Every 30 seconds you can be sure to hit a target hidden in a smoke screen due to cleverly engineered vertical and horizontal dispersion.

[@TheMightyDepressed]

Shotgun mechanics 😂

[@YagabodooN]

"LOOK AT HOW COOL OUR PRETEND BOATS ARE!" - russia probably....

[@AmdUlkoinen]

”I WANT THOUSAND FLETCHERS!” This is how you show like. Absoletely patetchic whining.

[@Ghost-gc7dj]

*Shikishima:* the weight of 6 TORPEDOES

[@brigdonbishop3095]

The Sovetsky Soyuz used shells that each weighed 2443 pounds. If you calculate its salvo weight per minute based on the actual stats it has a salvo weight of 18,132 kg/min, not the fantasized 24,930 kg/min.

[@emarann5697]

Even if as a French I am particularly proud to see the Republic in third place. I can't help but think that Montana's absence is suspect.

[@DaveMcKeegan]

According to WG the most powerful ship in the world is the Atlanta, with its r.o.f with HE shells it starts fires like a bloody flame thrower

[@natesiress1057]

Wargaming's numbers according to their own wiki: Soyuz, 1108kg shell, times 9 guns, times 1.82 salvos per minute: 18,149kg/minute. Wargaming's numbers according to their video: Soyuz, 24,930kg/minute. It's like WG strapped an extra turret to the Soyuz to push it ahead of the American BBs...

[@HsHs-mr5zn]

Remember WG is a Russian company

[@arab_unity1900]

Shikishima have the biggest guns WOWS history

[@average_joe8905]

Me: * sees the gun calibers don't go past 18 inches * Also me: *Sad Shikishima noises*

[@silincer5186]

18.1 inches to be exact. It crosses the 18 inch mark.

[@kyrpajooseppi888]

Ok so I did some math: In wg's own wiki it states, that kremlin's shell wheight is 1373kg, and rof 1,82 shots/min (33s reload). So we get 1373kg * 9 guns * 1,82 shots/min = 22 489,74kg/min They lied in their own video about kremlin's stats just to make it seem like the strongest in the list. I can't believe that some time ago I didn't think that soviet bias was a thing.

[@kyrpajooseppi888]

Also I don't get why montana wasn't on the list, since of the t10 paper bbs it was the most likely to have been built and probably the most well known. Well montanas shell weight is 1225kg, 12 guns and 2 shots/min (stats from wg wiki). So that makes 1225kg * 12 * 2 shots/min = 29 400kg/min. So they excluded the montana from the list because it would've beat the kremlin.

[@stormkhan4250]

@@kyrpajooseppi888 they also excluded Shikishima which would have the heaviest shell (2620 kg) but since its only got 6 guns that gives it a much smaller salvo weight.

[@kyrpajooseppi888]

@@stormkhan4250 actually since Shiki has more than twice as heavy shells as the montana, it also has a heavier salvo weight. And because of it's shorter reload, it's salvo weight / min is actually really high: 2620kg * 6 * 2,22 shots/min = 34 898 kg/min. That tops both Montana and Kremlin (even with the pre nerf 1750kg shells).

[@stormkhan4250]

@@kyrpajooseppi888 not disagreeing with you but just based on the metric used in the video of shell weight * number of guns then that meaningless number is quite small relatively speaking. But meh...so what? Silly video.

[@UnfortunateWatcher]

"Oh yes, Paper Ship Best Ship, please ignore that we are making a whole line of US BB cannon fodder, perfect targets for HE spam."

[@gauthijm]

incredible soundtrack... Thank you WG

[@liaml.e.5964]

Huh, I thought the Yamato would be higher on the list

[@paulgrazulis1810]

Love these ship modelling...just great to see!

[@kurumi394]

Me as I come into this video: Yamato *Yamato* *YAMATO* *Y A M A T O* edit: well technically correct because she was the only T10 BB ever built lol

[@brunoqueiros2971]

Yep agree

[@b-17gflyingfortress6]

Let's fix that by "only T10 BB ever built"

[@kurumi394]

@@b-17gflyingfortress6 Yeah typing things at 2AM leads to stupid typos like this lmao

[@LibraMiku271]

That song at 0:32 by König all the way up to 6:19... makes you think of slow but powerful battle songs in movies ready to fight until the last breath. It be nice down the line that World of Warships Legends (I play on the PS4) have Tier 8-10 warships including those in special events like Jeanne Bart. Of course aircraft carriers and submarines... then again one step at a time.

[@brandonseng7258]

yeah, what song is it

[@LibraMiku271]

@@brandonseng7258 that's my question too. Idk... trying to make the song on music maker jam Edit: I found it even after these years lol the song is called The Runner by Andrew Prahlow/Mark Petrie

[@eisenstein99]

This looks familiar somehow...

[@mpeterll]

With all the discussion about which ships existed ad which didn't, what I want to know is why the camera viewpoint is so low that almost half the frame shows a concrete dock while the much of the ship is cut out of frame.

[@p.j7992]

Where is Montana ?? Montana is always a joke for wargaming But of course as i expected Kremlin always on the top WG is not even giving upon it's bias in the KZbin videos also Great

[@jojodivas9211]

All they care is Russia and Moneh. If Flamu commented on this video, can’t wait for this video to get privated again lel

[@andriabdghani9333]

Indeed.. Careful WG, ur bias is showing...

[@mikesaporitojr3313]

After watching this and the ship comparison back to back it’s given me an idea compare the air wing size and striking power of all current ingame CVS

[@Ghost-gc7dj]

OST track name? Is it on WoWS Soundcloud channel?

[@shimarinlogistics6616]

Taking in the amount of time the Iowa class would need to observe targets, generate/correct firing solutions, load guns, lay guns on target, firing guns and repeat, the realistic rate of fire under full combat condition (without taking in equipment failures and crew fatigue) is around one salvo every 1 to 1.5 minutes.

[@kousand9917]

And the Iowa class had some of the best equipment and fire control systems so all the other ships would suck in comparison.

[@metaknight115]

@@kousand9917 Fire control isn't everything. Iowa's higher gun caliber meant that they were less accurate than the guns of the North Carolina and South Dakota, as well as the guns of the Yamato

[@gauthijm]

1- One of the BEST Videos you have EVER Made ! and 2- WHAT an INCREDIBLE SoundTrack ! WHO Makes this song ? WOW Regards JM

[@arabeeahmedchowdhury6912]

By the way why isn’t Des Moines in this list, you forgot to add the only cruiser to be able to fire 13.5 tons of shells a minute, this truly broke my heart.

[@jamesharvey3993]

Amazing! North Carolina now has a heavier broadside than Iowa...oh wait, no it doesn't. What a joke.

[@Cirux321]

Lol right.

[@scotth6814]

It isn't just shell weight that is important. The kinetic energy of a shell is equal to the mass times the velocity squared. So velocity is much more important.

[@l3gi]

who the hell calculates "salvo weight" in KG per minute? Why not in effective Salvo Weight per, lets say, salvo - like how you are supposed to do it. Maybe its a hidden message and its Wargaming balacing department arguing for a kremlin nerf and yamato buff here? Hope never dies lol

[@CptnCleator]

while admittedly not super-useful here; broadside weight per time is a fairly useful figure for comparing ships of different eras and types; for example the italian pre-dreads with 17in guns could in theory put out a single broadside in the region of ~4000kg, whereas a treaty heavy cruiser may only have a broadside weight of about ~220kg - the difference being the CA fires 4 salvos a minute (800kg/m), and the pre-dread will struggle to fire a salvo every 5 minutes (800kg/m) - making them fairly comparable, before taking into account range and accuracy and such

[@ch511]

For the first time, I learned that there was a battleship larger than the battleship Yamato, which the former Japanese Navy is proud of! .. Thank you for studying

[@kameronwillison5378]

There wasn't. Yamato was the largest battleship ever actually constructed and launched.

[@val_strax_]

@@kameronwillison5378 I mean, the Yamatos were "only" the heaviest battleship ever build, the biggest would be the Iowas!

[@metaknight115]

@@val_strax_ The Yamato is much wider than the Iowa, and only slightly shorter, making Yamato bigger. Here's some advice, measuring things with length alone is a bad idea

[@vairrex9966]

Love how they leave out Montana so Kremlin can have the heaviest salvo not the USA ship.

[@vairrex9966]

Montana has a 29,300 kg salvo???

[@Airbender222]

First the nerf to Montana's legendary upgrade that actually encourages active gameplay instead of passive backline sniping due to HE spam, now it's conveniently absent in a list it would've been in the top uncontested (until the Vermont comes out). No bias at all comrade.

[@honque6159]

Gustav railgun:" is that a gun comparison i hear? "

[@SekiShiro10]

I would like the port in the game to be like this with all your ships docked side by side

[@monger7266]

Using "real" specifications, an imaginary ship is the most powerful? Thanks for the laughs today, WOWS.

[@Theokondak]

De Moines Salvo Weight (kg/min): 17,255 metric tones ~ ~ 1 De Moines

[@its1110]

My thought, too. Gatling Gun cruisers!

[@jackdelea]

(Stealthy Montana class noises)

[@Lystopheles]

I felt this list was off, so here is the T10 values for AP shells according to datamined shellweight (credit goes to my favourite fitting tool

[@DaneRavienus]

Don't forget Ohio which I believe is up there with Vermont (Around 30k)

[@z23sensei99]

Imagine Kremlin Salvo Will be Kamikaze Avenger Torpedo Bombers

[@Ivanov_397]

The rest of the world: We measure things in liters, grams, and meters. America: We measure things in Willy MBs, Harley Davidson, and football fields.

[@Jax2777]

The funniest part about this video is that it opens with a statement about how these measurements are based off the real life specs of the guns, turrets and shells and yet some of these aren't real and of all of the ships to even be near the top tier, Kremlin beats all of them. Atleast they are admitting it now.

[@luisifranco48]

if the USS Montana had ever been built, the montana would have had a salvo weight of 28,800 kg, more than any other ship

[@val_strax_]

What about the Tillmanns?

[@WhiskeyJackGR]

Oh look! Its WGs vodka per papership calculation again.

[@jasonsmith1143]

I am so WRONG I thought the Yamato carried the heavyles salvo 🤔🤔🤔 on a battleship during WW2

[@val_strax_]

It did. This whole video is just made to show how great paper russian ships are. The Kremlin never existed.

[@nulife022]

How about a comparison with all real ships? Paper imaginary ships don't count for much in the real world.

[@Biker_Gremling]

6:10 WOW! Never knew Soviet paper was so heavy!

[@SomewhatSummarized]

Why was this reuploaded?

[@ME262MKI]

For "Bismark" and "tier VII Roma"

[@haydendill6288]

Montana savo is 29,333 making it the heaviest savor, don't know why they did not include that.

[@jemoederrs]

Why are the paper ships in this list?

[@CharmsDad]

Sorry, the North Carolina could NOT throw more weight than an Iowa class battleship. The North Carolina and South Dakota classes carried 9 16 in/45 caliber guns. The Iowas carried 9 16 in/50 caliber guns. The heaviest shell that could be fired from any of them was the 2,700 lb Mark 8 armor piercing shell. The longer barrels of the Iowa class ships allowed for greater range, but all 8 ships in the three different classes fired the same shells.

[@MrLAMTRIET]

Russian biased again. Last vid, there is flamu comment and then you unlist immidiatly

[@antoniohagopian213]

They re-upload the video because they had made a mistake by writing Bismark instead of Bismarck they dont give a fuck about your greed guy lol

[@jth877]

Why is the broadside weight of the NC more than Iowa? They both fire identical ammunition. 2700lb super heavy.

[@its1110]

While we're at it... include those nuke shells some the Iowas had. :)

[@fulcrum8583]

The proliferance of fantasy paper-ships which never floated, never mind ever fired their guns, is just shameful and silly. Also: Gun control is of the essence in such a comparison, because what use are guns and heavy shells if you take too long to range in on a target? Cool graphics, but I'd like to see them applied to content with more nuanced and reality-based substance to it. It might piss of certain ship-specific or nation-specific fanboys, but that'd be a good thing. My stomach hurt from me laughing when the last ships all were russian paper ships - oh boy, they seem so deperate, pitiable.

[@Xøzmiq-Axtræ]

Then don't play! Games are created for fun, now if you are depressed with this... then stop it because if you pity this then have also a pity for yourself!!!

[@FazCraft]

@@Xøzmiq-Axtræ kind of hard to have fun when your getting killed by a ship that's a tier lower than you an out performs a ship a tier higher than you (Vladivostok) an there cruiser's especially

[@Xøzmiq-Axtræ]

@@FazCraft Having a "hard fun" is different from having no fun at all. ~GoEastEms

[@KV-2-2-2]

Kremlin is obviously the Russian bias. Nobody will defeat it it’s made of stalinium. Le Soviet boi has big stronk guns Yea am v e r y late

[@misterRDF]

This video was a great reminder as to why I stopped playing. Thanks! :)

[@SaltedLad]

Girls locker room: Hey cute new underwear! Thank you! Boys locker room:

[@mishkosimonovski23]

Imagine this artillery making comeback with 18-inch ramjet shells.

[@felix_halcs123]

Girl Fashion Shows: *Cloth And Dresses* Boys Fashion Show:

[@lordmaximus5955]

Uh, where is the Montana ? She must be on the podium...

[@mbignell1]

Looks like they deleted Flamu's comments, shame on WG. They don't like it when CCs question their Russian bias.

[@simperorweeb1450]

Oh lets include paper ships except Shikashima. If the German BB H44 were in the game I still doubt they'd add it to part of the list, the H44 would have 20in(508mm) guns.

[@the.n00bish]

could not have kept the comparison going?? suddenly planes in there? whats next? 1 titanic, 2 horses, 3 dogs, 5 cats and a hamster?

[@its1110]

6-½ loads of mastadon poop...

Montana: 29,333 kg salvo weight. Iowa has 22,000 kg salvo weight. 7,333 kg per 3 gun turret salvo weight. 7,333 kg x 4 turret = 29,333 kg of salvo weight for the Montana.

[@someoneyoudontknow4920]

"In the new Dry Dock episode, we compare the power of the different main battery guns of our in-game ships" *of our in-game ships* No Montana No Shikishika No Jean Bart No Thunderer No Ohio No Alsace This just to have Kremlin as "strongest BB" because we Russian we Best. No other country stronger than Russia. This pure Bias is just insane What is next? Russian CV's that have invincible planes, AP bomber that deal 15K dmg per bomb, Rocket planes that can 1shot DD's and torpedoes on torpedo bombers that deal more dmg than IGN torps on DD's and have the speed of european torps??

[@Schnittertm1]

No, Russian carriers will get APHE bombs, doing only slightly more damage than the German AP bombs, but also having a fire chance of 75% per bomb. The planes also won't be invincible, but get a short burst heal of 1,000 hp per second for 20 seconds and torpedoes get a guaranteed flooding, but will have slightly above average damage compared to other plane launched torpedoes. Oh, did I mention that the bombs are carpet bombing, the torpedoes are in spreads of eight and with 90 knots?

[@someoneyoudontknow4920]

@@Schnittertm1 Don't forget that the torpedoes lock on a target like submarine torps will and that the elipse of the bombs is the size of the smallest DD in the game and gets even smaller than that when are letting it aim. Oh and also don't forget that the planes have a speed of 300 knots without engine boost.

[@ADDISON6368]

@@someoneyoudontknow4920 DONT GIVE THEM FUCKING IDEAS YOUR GOING DOOM US ALL STOP!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TomsonPRD]

Daily reminder that there were 14 pre-drafts for Kremlin: what we have in game is the one that contemplated 457mm guns for Project 24 in 1949, but there's absolutely not a single chance the Soviet steel/naval industry could have been able to manufacture them. And since even Stalin, of all people, basically looked at the proposal and said "what the fuck are you smoking" at his designers, completely shutting down their deranged fantasies, this variant isn't worth any more than other completely idiotic plans.

[@TheOtakuPrince]

Finally, some decent voice in this comment section.

[@TornadoADV]

The music was slappin but the rest of the video was utter trash.

[@Gredoxx]

Least it had something nice xD

[@its1110]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ouch!! You ruled that!

[@detritus23]

TBH, I want to see how these compare against high tier cruisers. I imagine that those cruisers with larger autoloading cannons can put out more kg/min than most of the listed battleships. Further, putting the “adrenaline rush” skill on the captain will turn those autoloaders into Gatling guns. Also, this is really “The Most Powerful Broadsides in Kg/min in WoWS” as some have/had (IRL) serious cannon accuracy issues.

[@cl4ster17]

Assuming the current ingame values for DM (152kg, 5.5s), we end up with 14,924 kg/min at stock. With reload mod and maximum AR we get 3.88s reload which is 21,155 kg/min.

[@OverLoutre]

Why repost this video Just to change Bismark tout Bismarck ? This isn't better..

[@zennidu2507]

Hey Wows, I think it would be really if you make a video again about penatration caliber because in some armada vids you see at 5 km range the caliber is greater than there normal caliber and I think that is really confusing for many people. And it is really helpfull to see how many armor a shell can penetrate a some distances because that makes many thing logic.

[@cluster4583]

5:26 yamato!!!!

[@chrisandsoforth319]

I assume this song is used in the original soundtrack. Where is it available?

[@D4rkn3ss2000]

The fact that the Soviet tier X paper bullshit has the heaviest main gun salvo in the game already makes the video irrelevant. Nice Bias WG, very wow much awesome

[@antoniohagopian213]

The guns of kremlin are very real, you can find the same barrels at Vladivostok in Russia, the shell is 2.3m long and is ~1800kg which is the biggest shell off all the ship guns even in real life, since the barrel was built unlike the 510mm of shikishima so your the one full of shit lol

[@D4rkn3ss2000]

@@antoniohagopian213 at which point did I mention shikishima? lol who's the clown now

[@ryanovski]

I couldn't believe that the salvo weight of 16"/45cal on North Carolina is more than the 16"/50cal on the Iowa

[@cl4ster17]

They both shoot the AP Mk8 super heavy shell. kg/min should actually be the same but NC does 13.1k instead of 13.5 damage per shell.