Dry Packed Fence Post Pull | One Year After Set!

We dry packed a four-by-four wooden fence post in the Midwest during our Mr. Fence Academy Installation training, then pulled the post out of the ground one year later to reveal how the dry pack method for setting fence posts holds over time.
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[@user-it4nu7im1v]

Been fencing for 12 years and if you are looking for the best info to learn or teach your apprentice because you explain things badly (like me) this is the man.

[@iamdrewski39]

thank god, now i can link this to anybody on the facebook fence groups that are naysayers about dry packing or even dry packing then adding water. i’ve tried to explain to multiple people you don’t have to “mix” concrete when it comes to fence post holes. we aren’t looking for maximum psi in the concrete like on a house footing or driveway for example, where there’s a huge compressive load on crete itself. because when it comes to fence there isn’t much of a compression weight load on the concrete itself we just need the concrete to harden in the four ground like it does as shown here to keep posts from moving.

[@ScreamingEagleFTW]

four grounds? wtf?

[@cliffstone71]

I tamped a 6x6 in with crusher run and it's been there 10 years with no problems holding a heavy 4 ft gate.

[@bigp6071]

Great stuff! This is how I set my posts. However, it’s best to take the concrete all the way to the surface. As the post will and always does rot right below ground level. Do this and it will add many years to your fence.

[@bradtindell902]

Hi Mr. Fence, I like your fencing videos and like what you're doing there. I'm 30 years in the industry myself. I was looking for any videos on what you do when digging and start running into large roots in your fence line? We use a great tool called the "B'root Bar". It's a vertical axe and makes short work of large roots to deep to be cut on the surface and in areas to tight to get in there with sawzalls. Let me know what you guys are doing.

[@Straycathollow]

I like your fence post remover. Nice!

[@mrfenceacademy]

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[@gointomexico]

Anyone looking to do this, just dig hole 30 inches, place post, put some dry concrete, plumb post, pack concrete, fill hole again and plumb, pack concrete, pour some water on top and wet the ground. Or, get some rain. This worked for me

[@5stardave]

Depends on the frost line. It's 70 inches in South Dakota.

[@sheepdogonthehill]

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[@ck6804]

I like watching your methods. My previous boss told me you would be coming to palm bay Florida to film? My brother and I have some installation videos we'd like to show you.

[@robertosalazarjr1205]

Nice work

[@Shawn-bo9tu]

Great info thank you!

[@scottphillips2420]

They do not put concrete in the bag, when you add water to cement and aggregate it makes concrete;-) just for clarification. drypack is sand and cement mixed really dry and is used for a shower floor pan's or chimney cap.

[@user-bj4lp3fr1o]

It's concrete mix in the bag. That's what it says on the bag. Putting it in a hole without water would be dry packed concrete mix.

[@tyjones5019]

Here's an opinion from an engineer who now builds fences. Your videos are awesome, but the "bell" method is completely unnecessary for a fence application. As you demonstrated, the post is perfectly fine for lateral wind loads, the bell method that is endorsed by a bunch of oldtimers is strictly for making the post harder to pull out vertically, which is a pain for us when jacking them out. An F5 tornado could strip the entire fence away from the posts and they might still be there but that's about the only advantage. I admire your work!

[@michael.phelps]

engineer boi, u forget about frost heave

[@plumbobmillionaire6246]

Frost heave lad

[@christophervela5447]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@workisfun...2438]

Been in the game for close to 30 years. We have belled holes and not belled holes. Most engineering specs call for a straight hole. Frost will work evenly on a straight hole. Frost "could" work adversely against a belled concrete footing. In the grand scheme of my career, I know when/where I want to put a small bell on a hole for a specific reason and when I know I don't need to. Most of the time you don't need it , it's just extra work.

[@mchristopher]

Thanks for a great video. After dry packing a fence post, do you pour water over it or just leave it dry? In northeast, how deep should the dry pack be? Below frost line?

[@coryhegarty9151]

Can anyone find a link to the piece of equipment that they used to pull that post to the ground.

[@mrfenceacademy]

mrfencetools.com/products/mr-fence-edition-post-puller?_pos=1&_psq=post+puller&_ss=e&_v=1.0

[@dahbaldguy]

I set 12 posts in just packed dirt. I had to remove the old ones set in concrete and it was a pain so If I ever have to fix a post again now i can just pull it out easier. The post seem to be as sturdy as the ones I dug up with concrete. I opted to dig 36 in holes as opposed to the 2 ft holes originallly dug which will probably make it stronger right? What are the disadvantages of setting post in just packed dirt? Im in New England by the way.

[@trishaw.237]

I'll try to help you with giving some facts until Mr. Fence give you his very helpful advice. Dirt tends to shift, blow away, dry out, develop fungus, especially sink, crack, plus is a source for bugs. All of these issues cause erosion to example wood, plus rust erosion to iron due to our natural elements rain, snow, hot sun.... Therefore, all of these in nutshell will cause your 12 posts/fence to become extremely weak and unstable much quicker in the dirt, plus some of the bugs eating the dirt also eat wood. The base of your 12 posts will definitely get destroyed and all of your hard work would be wasted. Best to always pour concrete inside the base to keep your posts strong and stable, plus to protect the material from the natural elements and wood loving bugs. In the long run, the concrete will end up saving you money, and a fence from collapsing.

[@landmarkcreations1183]

Dan wheeler is not liking this vid😂

[@currencymaxedilm6474]

try that on a foundation posts 400x400x1.4 high and concrete hole 600x600x1000 deep get me something lol

[@ScreamingEagleFTW]

so show us how you dry packed it.

[@mrfenceacademy]

Look through our videos on this page plenty of them showing including thisnpost

[@gointomexico]

Ah, I saw one video on KZbin. The saccrete lobby is working overtime.

[@c0pyimitati0n]

Can't I just dry pack the same dirt that came out of my hole to set my fence post?

[@johncarnettie6804]

Try 5 years #rotted

[@northernpikes7545]

Are people getting so lazy that they don't want to mix concrete in a wheelbarrow and poor it in the hole?

[@user-bj4lp3fr1o]

It's not lazy to eliminate an unnecessary step in a process.

[@jordanmercier3616]

@@user-bj4lp3fr1o lol NO YOU SHOULD ALSO DIG THE HOLE WITH YOUR BARE HANDS BECAUSE THEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE REALLY NOT LAZY.

[@DeanTX]

Not to mention if you are on acreage you dont have to tow a massive container of water