Devs RESPOND to Descendant BALANCE & Other Hot Topics in The First Descendant

[@DrybearGamers]

00:00 Introduction 00:11 Valby's Vortex 01:34 Teamplay Encounters 03:08 Colossus Stealth 04:15 Elemental Weapons 05:18 Lag & Desync 05:45 Descendant Balance 08:05 External Components 10:21 Trophy Room 11:00 Summary

[@luisf.9438]

I love that they don't nerf characters, but buff others, instead of killing the game with nerfs like Warframe.

[@vAaron-X]

farming precise ion accelerators are ridiculous, definitely needs looking at

[@GlennRiccobono]

Holy crap this. They are obscene

[@kerch6071]

Yeah it’s now the new bottle neck 😂

[@LCInfantry]

The abyss boss drops good amount resource to make them and when you farm for hours for reactors… it’s not so bad. We aren’t really doing void shard mission anymore… that was the main source we used to get the quantum crystals from.

[@jerry3350]

Totally agree it's the only bottleneck in the game for me rn. There's no super good quantum crystal farm. Infernal walker was decent and fast but that's gone

[@passionsv.2]

It’s pretty insane how many times you need to spam farm it to get 325k quantum. Gets tiring and the other options are nowhere near as lucrative as killing the boss is

[@UncleJonniG]

Just want to stop and say I'm thankful for these videos. Without them I probably wouldn't be diving into these q&as on my own

[@oryxthetakenking6495]

They need a system to replace the player who leaves the match .

[@cherrybomb0388]

That’s unlikely to happen considering most content is less than 10 minutes, and they have already talked about this. Sucks, but it is what is is.

[@Finesse0916]

The reason why players leave is because low level players are in the group or join and their not wanted to carry any low level because they're a burden to their progress of farming It's Nexon fault allowing low level players in certain content that require level 40 Go finish level up your character first before joining boss Battle

[@seanweber4114]

What they need is a system to kick out the gooner trying to mob a group match. If you want to run solo, run solo. Don't spoil everyone's fun just to show how "good" you are. I really believe its these types of people thar made 96% of the community leave.

[@SB777Fum]

They need to fo something about AFK players!

[@PeopleRTheProblem]

@@Finesse0916you need boss battles to “finish” your characters. Are you new here?

[@MasterAarott]

Collosi are able to detect descendants by their arche, so lorewise it makes sense they'd be able see through Sharen's stealth. If anything she should become higher aggro priority to collosi when engaging her cloak.

[@alaskayoung3413]

I call total bs on their balancing answer. They literally just did Jayber and didn’t give him anything worth a crap. Why does valby and Viessa get dmg boost but Jay doesn’t? It’s a total gender difference everytime.

[@archerunit]

I want the devs to give me more of a reason to play in public mode. Like maybe extra rewards for a public defiler clear.

[@Kevfactor]

I don’t get why they make it easier too

[@multigun8082]

Power creep is insanely out of control. Every patch it gets so much worse. I've never seen power creep this bad in any game I have ever played. Its a game killer level of bad.

[@ISLEEPINATUB613]

Tbh a sharen that can't use her best ability against colossus really does defeat her purpose. Also shared drops from bosses would be nice. Farming with others right now is redundant being I'm tryna help u get something but I get it and that player doesn't

[@Madcowdiseiz]

I for one am glad to not see specific roles being required for gameplay. Having played WoW for many years, finding someone to do the non DPS roles was always like pulling teeth: tedious and painful. I'd prefer they avoid that route.

[@NobodyInParticuIar]

I wouldn't worry if I were you since everyone is blasting with guns lol

[@OneTato]

Yes 200% I get this and agree! Haven't played wow in forever but i do not miss the days of hunting for healers and properly geared tanks for hours on end 😅😅

[@TheAgentAssassin]

Yujin has been my most successful character for Colossus random 4 person pubs.

[@trembledust6819]

Pfft. I found that was normal across many games that had the class systems. The majority dont seem to want to run support roles. They want to incur the big flashy damage hits.

[@Kevfactor]

THe only reason for no roles is it's hard to code i bet. I don't think any FPS mmo has really done it. But The dungeon content would be 10x more fun having a tank , 2-3 dps and support than what it is currently, just dps characters thathit 1 button and kill everything with no effort. Power creep isn't even being addressed either so it's even more boring.

[@rinslittlesheepling1652]

I hate how colossus see Sharen through invis. It makes them turn around all the time, making my attempts at trying her stealth + skills build to work properly futile (since they move away their weak spots while turning).

[@brucenatelee]

Challenge and balance is always a hot topic. Whether some features are "just blatantly turned off" is controversial. I think it does at least still have the damage bonus.

[@trembledust6819]

@@brucenatelee yup. I still get applied damage bonus damage with my Sharen when cloaked and fighting Colossi. That's the source of damage I lean on primarily with Colossi fights with Sharen.

[@EchoDoctrine]

Really annoyed with droprates & getting gold instead of Ines. & weapon cores requiring 4,000 or 2,000 mats is frustrating. Never getting enhanced Doggo upgrade annoying too

[@Darklordofdaa]

U can target reward Ines. I got her in like 2 hrs

[@EchoDoctrine]

@ I had no idea this was a thing, game does a bad job telling people about this stuff. I turned on target farming for the last part of Ines started doing void vessels, did maybe 5 solo since groups really are worse in this game, bar was 90% full, completed a mission, I got a duplicate part, I check bar it’s reset to 0%, I get really mad, then I look in crafting & it says I have everything. I have no idea what happened, maybe it hit 100% and gave me the part and it didn’t show it as the rewards. Either way I finally started crafting her. My next annoyance is I have the day off work and it says she will be done in 16hrs. SMH 🤦 So I guess I can’t use her and level her up when it’s convenient for me. Games are crazy, wait timers have always seemed dumb but maybe it makes money as people pay to skip the timer. Oh well I’ll play something else while she cooks. Also thanks for info, GGs

[@Darklordofdaa]

@EchoDoctrine yea once it hits 100 it should give u part instantly i believe. And it being a free game, they gotta have ways to make money like skipping crafting timer. Can always farm something else in the meantime or prep her build like reactors or components.

[@Vi74LiTy]

An idea that just popped into my head about boss component farming, would be that the probability of certain stats on components is linked to how the boss was killed. They can sit parameters like over 50% ability damage was used and that gives you x% increase to get x rolls. Or using a certain element type, etc. Similar to how the reward chests change with time left in the boss fight in void vessel. Not only would you be eliminating a bit of rng, but you would be reviving colossi fights. Because now instead of just burning down the boss with Freyna or Haley, you would have setups where you use Enzo with with a fire enhanced impact rounds weapon to drastically increase the chances of getting Max HP or Max MP rolls on aux power or sensor. Again, just an example, but that alone would allow players to theorycraft fun builds and get rewarded with component sets they actually want in a more reasonable amount of time.

[@JB-yr6qt]

I am a both excited and maybe a little concerned for weapon cores. I main Gley, so for me they're fantastic. Could take Gley from being "Top 5 but never #1" in boss fights to a contender for ever single top slot with sudden increase in her ability to do elemental damage to match each boss's weakness while gaining ground in the mobbing department (Relic's blast hits over 22m diameter after new mods for example). On the other hand, I worry that she's not going to see a rebalance anytime soon and will continue to never use 5 of her 7 skills while essentially ignoring her unique resource, being stuck propped up by her 1 (admittedly very good) trick. Speaking of Restored Relic, is it just me or since this last patch has the explosion effect been extra big and long-lasting clouds? I seem to recall it was a quick blast like the Vestigial Organ, but now I can't even SEE the colossus I'm shooting at anymore with the Relic

[@dacks3375]

Having only fired the Relic like twice when it came out I don't remember the animation back then. Having said that I use this thing constantly on my Enzo now and yeah I get told all the time at how terrible the cloud makes visibility (in more abrasive words). I then explain that there is an option to turn off other descendant explosions and then get more abrasive...words.

[@fuselit2860]

i hope more sections of albion opened up and have an attachement complex with a lot of civilian npc or something, more city like vibes and QoL.

[@ZefraSol]

same. I'm not into roleplay or anything but I played a lot of ffxiv and stayed for so long because how social the game was. I hope they introduce guilds soon

[@pandaxpres]

I really dnt get why dummies who main Freyna, bunny or, now ines, even do dungeons with groups…like if you’re not going to play like a group setting then why even load up on one?! When I play my ines or freyna im very mindful when choosing to use them in team settings. Everybody just instantly hate seeing Ines now..I like Ines and I hate seeing Ines now lol Point is they have to power creep everybody else so this is not a thing. The other descendants need to be on the this level to be viable when even running along side Freyna, Bunny, and Ines. Otherwise you’ll just be seeing the same three characters every setting!

[@ZefraSol]

multiple freynas/ines will still make it faster lol. just like you said, I also go into solo mode when leveling my weapons for the all the xp credit. you should do the same. also, those "dummies" helped me catalyst my Hailey and Blair way faster. I appreciate it

[@pandaxpres]

@ dnt care. I said what I said.

[@myleahford6924]

All i want is yujin to have the best of both worlds of proliferating and duty. 2 skill does some type of damage but i still heal you from within 150m. Or at least a stronger debuff. Id even want to restore some mp when restoring hp and shields

[@TheAgentAssassin]

Just give me a little buff to "Divine Punishment" , I'll be happy. I've fully slotted level 7 weapon upgrades and it's still kind of meh. I've run full crit/crit damage build, full weak point build, full ATK build, damage vs. colossus build, and even a combination of aforementioned builds, nothing I come up with make the weapon really that powerful. It has almost no base crit percentage. MAYBE add a crit stacking bonus when you proc D&S and stim turrets, they stack say up to 10 , you a percentage per stack.

[@myleahford6924]

@TheAgentAssassin I don't bother with it. I built it never use it. I'm waiting til season 3 when you can remove the first optimization weapon on your reactor and I'll put it on there, maybe.....just for the benefits of getting more cool down, but I'm fine with my 4 being at 9s. But then I may just leave my reactor as is. Sub, tact, machine. I run double gold coold down duration on my reactor and two piece annihilation. Can't get good rolls on hunter. But ive been doing fine. Sit at 25-26k hp 12k def and 29k shield when I run a shield build. Dp just isn't good enough to use still.

[@brucenatelee]

I am excited to see characters be more powerful than just making everybody weak. Valby is my go to AOE at the moment, only discovering a second power range mod this week (played for only a month so far).

[@seanweber4114]

Who's your decendent.

[@sa1lor_jarry139]

It'd be nice if invis worked in intercepts as long as you're not the only one alive. Like let it work if you're in a party, but if the whole party is downed or if you're solo, then let it not work. That would be fair

[@Jett125]

They really do need to bring back valby's tow.

[@ajharrell21]

My friends and I only had one question a trade system among friends I was lucky and I got the dog code six times one night so they were wondering if they ever enable a trade system where you could give your friends your duplicates

[@seanweber4114]

That sounds like a great idea.the ability for party members to trade drops. I have so many red mods for lepic. And I don't even use him.

[@Heivy_dtuy]

I just want them to fix Keelans 4 and reduce cooldowns, also ajax's reflect shield could do more numbers of damage. Also make a mod that the more air time fall ajax does, more damage he could do. That would make his void walk even more fun

[@ctob5434]

Anything about the ability to switch shoulders? Would be helpful in void erosion and the use of cover.

[@buffywasright]

Let’s be honest, not one intelligent question was asked.

[@Qballiz2kool]

If they aren’t going to be doing content that requires roles like tanks and supports, then WHY do you have those roles in the game in the first place???. That’s a giant middle finger to those types of descendants. Their descendant balance also leaves ALLOT to be desired, and their extreme bias towards female descendants is just getting frustrating.

[@TheAgentAssassin]

They banned a super healing medic build. 1330 hours in this game never had any issues with the game , never went AFK , rarely left a match, I got banned TWICE using Yujin, I was farming the Infernal Walker for like 3 days straight , got the skin for all 10 of my descendants , and somehow their shadowban algorithm thought I wasn't doing enough damage to the walker and thought I was AFK. Can't tell you how many absolute trash teams won because I spammed his heal constantly. I still shot the walker. But the assault rifle 'divine punishment' that goes with his heal kit has abysmal damage. I have to have that weapon in my hands to get the skill cool-down bonuses to spam heal the entire team. Divine Punishment is better now but still abysmal if you ask me. AFTER the 1st 3 day ban when I came back I tested their system, never went AFK, never left a match, never entered 400% or spec ops with low end characters. Never left an intercept. Brought Hailey for DPS colossus, etc. Used ULT bunny for spec ops. Even when all 3 players left an intercept I always stayed, I was super OCD about it. Then I got banned again for 3 days again. I was like WTF ??

[@smithcubs]

​@@TheAgentAssassin people must be reporting you. Sad to see.

[@alaskayoung3413]

@@TheAgentAssassinI main Yujin and I refuse to use divine bc it does so little dmg. The cd is not worth losing out on double the damage.

[@michaelrosier2807]

Exactly like I will go into a death stalker fight with my tank freyna and because there is no way I can taunt the colossus, I’m playing ems medic simulator for most of the fight.

[@grïnj966e]

I think if they added that extra skill power boost that slayer has to every other golden 4-piece set it would make other sets more appealing and likely considered by players

[@alphacat4957]

This game already have role based team play Combat which are Death Stalker, the harder boss of all time. Many ppl claim Ines is op but try bring her to death stalker, she will die at least 5 times in a match, without a shield build she will die in a second. Whenever the party have Ultimate Freya, Ajax, Yujin and Enzo, the fight will go easy and sure win. When Ines join in the win rate drop 30%, if they are 3 Ines in party consider mission Failed. Death stalker are really tough but fun, I never fell boring when fighting it.

[@Qdub1]

Can the male descendants get any love!??? Damn 😂

[@jamescampbell5734]

Yeah, it's disappointing how weak Keelan is ... I really like his character, so I would love if he was usable.

[@lilinu060]

I definitely think the element added to weapons was sort of an excuse/dodge on their real process for choosing weapons. I say this because Greg's reversed fate is/was considered one of the best bossing weapons for any defendant yet they added an element to it, it wasn't underperforming by any means, and in the past 2 events they gave out blueprint parts for Greg's and/or a full copy of the weapon just for logging in. I'd say that after the thunder cage (because the game's story mode/main quests makes you build one) Greg's is probably one of the highest unlocked legendary weapons by players. So a lot of people have it and it's good at bossing as well as is decent at mobbing how was it underperforming? Then weapons like the perforator was underperforming but they changed the passive now it's doing a lot better but I still rarely ever see anyone besides me using it in the past 2 weeks I think I've come across one other player using it. I don't think it's underperforming I actually like it a lot after the rework but it only got a rework 1 patch before the elements got added so technically when they were picking which weapons to add elements to it was likely underperforming at that time. They may have considered waiting a bit after the rework but with seemingly few people actually using it I'm wondering how much feedback they're actually getting on this one. That being said I'm not claiming I have knowledge on any metrics but this is enough to make me suspicious on how they're deciding. Freyna's rework, enduring legacy and Hailey's arrival to the game took some attention off Greg's reversed fate as a bossing weapon however it didn't seem to be underperforming by any means yet they buffed it and stated they only wanted to buff underperforming weapons. The math doesn't quite seem to be mathing on that one for me What do y'all think though are there some underperforming weapons you think got left out of the element buff or some strong weapons that got the element buff anyway?

[@varsinzo4844]

Even though the new drop materials on 400% and Defiller are a step in the right direction, the games needs a HUGE NERF on materials needed to craft stuff and a HUGE BUFF on material and module drop rates. And Im talking about those 2000 of a specific material to craft another thing, its insane you have to do 50 missions over and over to get a random perk, or to unlock a module, I killed Frost Watcher over 30 times and did the hagios infiltration over 30 times and didn't unlocked Ines module. And I was using a Gold module drop on my components and I have my dog to level 30 (wich incrases module drop rate).

[@EchoDoctrine]

Exactly this. I’m getting very tired of running same old content over and over for 2,000 materials so I can craft 1 item. For what? To do the same thing over again? Cmon Nexon, you have competition, other games. I’m seeing lots of old Destiny payers trying Warframe and that has me curious, there’s backlog of games. There’s new games in feb coming.

[@dongarippo7279]

Haven't played this game for a while but was hoping to see that this had been addressed, the boring game-play loop. This needs to be fixed. Seems like it isn't yet? Ok, next year maybe

[@RobK-rl6sn]

Those of you that are dumping money into the game, like I am. I just want you to recognize that this game it's not growing. The game is actually getting smaller player base.Wise and yeah that is concerning. These past few updates I have not been there. Very good, in my opinion, and I think the player the count is showing that. Players don't want sexy outfits only. Players don't want the same avoid bosses.With a few different attacks, more hit points and different colors. Players want real content and content does not include a new descendant. If you're already bored of the content, it doesn't matter if you're doing it with a new descendant or not. This is why the player count is going lower and lower, which means less and less support. I'm just concerned the direction the game is going like jiggle physics is a waste of developmental resources and time. Because a few children are loud on reddit. Listening to the wrong crowds is going to get this game.Shut down in a year.

[@ggthx]

What else do you see in your crystal ball? Look there is nothing wrong with gving what most people want, its the same in most MMO's or even RPG's most are playing female characters and they like attractive ones at that. I do agree the male descendants do need more attention and they do need more party focused content that actually utilizes support roles. Next, to sit there and just look at steamcharts for TFD and not the whole population numbers is very misleading, you are forgetting the crap ton of console players, that if you said there are way more console players to steam players then I fully agree...

[@humbertoreyes7388]

@@ggthxbro let’s not be delusional I have 500 hours on tfd I can tell by a fact the game is not fun at it’s core and if they don’t improve gameplay it’s over

[@IMandalorianI]

I left a few times because shit doesn’t drop or takes literally weeks to see the desired item you’re looking for. Not because of the content being boring or repetitive. It’s entirely because of the damn drop rates.

[@ggthx]

@humbertoreyes7388 Almost all looter shooters have the same 'grind'....TFD is still under 1 years old and have so far added a lot of QoL features as well as alleviated some of the grind. They have been adding in content, whether you deem that enough or not is subjective, but don't sit there and pretend that Mangum Studio's has done nothing in the 6 months its been out to the public. Let's not be delusional indeed...

[@ggthx]

@ Ok? I don't understand this argument - RNG is RNG, not to mention Mangum Studios has put in the boosters and the new boosters that swap percentages of said drop item to further increase your chances, I really don't know what to tell people like you that have this kind of mindset. Hell back in the day in older MMO's drop rates were abysmal, we would have to camp a boss for weeks on end. Almost every looter shooter has the same treadmill grind... Can Mangum Studio's do better for its community? Sure and they have been as stated above and with each season - of which are only 3 months apart, they have been making more QoL adjustments and more content. Remember the game is coming up on 6 months of being out, consider how much work they have improved and continue to learn what the community asks for and what they can provide...

[@Llynethil]

I don't really find Hailey to be that problematic. She has one job, and that is to delete single target bosses, it's her niche and that's fine, she sucks outside of doing that. The real problem is when someone like Freyna can clear entire dungeons very fast and very safely, while also being able to do really high single target damage, same thing with Ines. Viessa is kind of a better approach now, Absolute Zero build is really strong and can do tons of damage, but she also needs to run into enemy swarms to get the damage off so there's risk/reward factor to be had, which can be very dangerous, especially in the new void missions to use.

[@SomeChristianGuy.]

refusing to make tanks and healers, but making synergistic interactions, will basically make certain combinations of descendant mandatory anyway, so same damned thing. Make tanks able to aggro Collosi so we can finally stop having to pick up players off the group.

[@Kevfactor]

I feel all dps is why the group content is so bad tbh. I like that you dodge stuff but there still should be more to it, which having support and tanks would help that imo.

[@SomeChristianGuy.]

@@Kevfactor Can dodge some stuff, but most enemies still feel like aim bots, or at least the ones that can one shot you. what they consider mechanics right now is retarded. There seems to be little to no creativity in the dev team because they overuse the living hell out of the same goddamned mechanics on literally every boss like the invulnerability phases which are a curse to gaming. At this point id be happy if they literally just copied MMO RPG or ARPG boss fights from titles like WoW or POE2 etc...

[@lufi2182]

Supports like Enzo and Yujin are useless now because everything already dies so fast. TFD needs to stop releasing characters that break the game on day 1 of every patch. It gets boring so fast. They keep saying "We won't nerf newest descendants. Instead, we'll buff the older ones." Still waiting on those buffs... They've been saying that since Bunny was considered OP.

[@Tesserakt8]

I have a feeling that the special core for different factions is gonna be required for content which means farming different sets of weapons.

[@neelamgandevia3500]

I hope they consider some kind of "loadout" function. If I sweutch from Valby to Freyna or Bunny then i have to rework all my gear and it would just make it so much nicer QoL wise to be able to do that much more easily

[@TheLiamis]

It's there. Preset.

[@seanweber4114]

They have a preset option

[@DangerousDave-j4k]

1000+ hrs. Reduce animation time of 4th on lepic and Blair. Increase movement speed on Blairs 3rd. Triple the damage of lepics panzy 1st. Double the damage of bunny's 4th, And ajacks only attack. 15% cooldown on fraynas and Blairs 4th. Increase base shield on Enzo and Kyle. jayber, enzimo, and luna, are just akward to use, suggest total rework, if not possible, just focus on playable ones

[@sonofchrist7256]

Ui customization needs to be added. I don't like the health bar and skills where they are displayed, in Albion, there so many names on the screen at once, it's all too cluttered. They need to give us freedom to change the layout, and maybe even add different color schemes or themes for the UI just to add to the customization

[@devonh117]

i hope they don't decide to nerf things, a lot of these "op" builds still require a hefty amount of investment which should pay off. It reminds me of Nioh 1 where there would be an OP as hell build but it'll require 100hrs grind, you put in the grind and bam. Nerfed the following week, especially with how TFD is, Majority of my play has been strictly solo.

[@vex9596]

While some of their choices are not ideal, their approach is pretty good in my opinion. Instead of nerfing specific weapons & descendants, they're buffing stuff that is underperforming. Really good way to make playerbase happier without negatively impacting anyone. I like that personally.

[@PeopleRTheProblem]

Really? Pretty sure they nerfed the shit out of blue and purple weapons. Now 97% of guns are worthless

[@vex9596]

@@PeopleRTheProblem I was talking about the current situation specifically. This nerf you're talking about must have happened before I started playing.

[@PeopleRTheProblem]

@ I’m talking about the core system making the majority of guns useless

[@warmachinesc5559]

The issue is most people work and don’t have time to play the game. Only KZbinrs and streamers are able to defeat bosses in 20 seconds. I’ve been playing since the games launch and I don’t have all the modules unlocked or 4 of 4 on the weapons. My reactors and components are mid tiers. The game requires too much rng. Spending 2hrs getting good rolls instead of playing the new content is a bad game recipe. I want to clear bosses in 20 seconds too but have farm for gear instead. I’ve played the beta also and it still feels like I’m still playing the beta. There is no lock out system on combining modules either I keep getting transcendent modules that I have already unlocked.

[@lifeisgood5794]

Anything they can do to help us get reactors up to five levels a little quicker would be nice.

[@Malacite]

Cursed thumbnail. My biggest gripe is definitely the farming. Reactors, components and now fragments.... I get there being some grind, but there's no way to mitigate bad RNG and getting cores or implants is such a massive drag compared to everything else like wtf. Maybe stop handing out so many boosters and free weapon materials, and instead focus on balance and making engaging content. EDIT: I'm also very disappointed at the lack of formulated group play with proper roles etc. I don't want to see it forced necessarily, but having at least SOME content that requires a proper party would be nice.

[@fuman7057]

Character balance is a joke in this game and many of the weaker Descendants need a rework (e.g. Esiemo and Jayber). It’s laughable that Kyle was only relevant when he had a game breaking and abusive glitch. Another issue is that Ultimate Descendants outclass non-Ultimates so severely that players are hesitant to use resources on non-Ultimates. Ultimates need to come faster and Activators and other growth resources should be applied to the Ultimate, since there is no reason to keep base versions. The development team also needs to stop catering to gooners and make male Descendants worthwhile. Hailey and Ines were both cracked when they launched, but Keelan sucked (and still does) and he has the worst Transcendent modules. The only male Descendants that are worth keeping are Enzo, Yujin, and Ultimates.

[@ggthx]

Not gonna refute all of your opinions, some are legit. Just one thing that bothers me is you guys keep saying Nexon, when they are just the publishers. Mangum Studios develops the game.

[@cedricborero7150]

It may seem like a silly idea, but maybe the should rework how stats work with external components. Instead having the main stat rolls being low rolled and with the idea of harder content coming, having higher HP and defense stats hard locked on them would make farming components easier. Or even having gold stats hard lock when you reach mastery rank 20, my idea could work or they're just pie dreams and sound like shit lol.

[@seanweber4114]

Personally, I think they should lock out gold and silver.Master ranks from going to any of the early maps so new players can actually experience the game.

[@cedricborero7150]

@seanweber4114 I actually would be completely okay with that change if it did happen. I'm not trying to ruin anyone's fun, so I can see how that's fair.

[@iSuperVamp]

Congrats on 200k Mr DryBear !

[@DrybearGamers]

[@siecefire5613]

So...still can't team up for hard mode story content? Been a few months figured I would check in to see if they woke up...guess I am never going back then.

[@jamescarter6468]

They need to stop letting you use multiple of the same Descendant in the same team. If two Bunnies queue up? Send one to another team. That slows the game down having three+ mobbers spamming everywhere

[@starkiller6746]

All the males are severely underpowered. Wonder what that's about 😢

[@gamerwits4329]

For the gooner playerbase

[@idaman2795]

All decendants need a unique ability upgrade. This alone can give the game a lot of contents

[@streetlogic]

I would like the option to have reactors on different descendant, without having to switch the reactor everything I change descendants.

[@IMandalorianI]

There’s a load out system in the game. You can just choose the presets you make and everything will apply on each descendant loadout.

[@bpindel]

CC'ing collosi was a thing in the Beta. And it worked quite well. Not sure why they removed it.

[@YChromosome99]

Bad move to have Colossai see Sharen in stealth. That olone makes her UNIQUE plus it gives us an advantage to activate it as we revive allies. This lessens her advatage during these battles.

[@trembledust6819]

I would agree only if by the Colossi being able to see her in stealth negates the bonus damage she gets when cloaked. Its doesn't. And Colossi don't always target Sharen in Pubs so Dangerous Ambush is still viable especially when Colossi is downed.

[@ipfreely]

Just make Ajax (and other shooters) viable in Void Erosion. I run out of bullets so quickly, it’s total RNG if the mobs drop Bullets. These mobs should come after us, as a shooters without an AoE or DoT, it fu-king takes time chasing after each mob that don’t comes to you. That’s m6 only complaint with Void Erosion. Ajax is my most optimized build so any other characters cannot last nor finish fast.

[@dripszn6732]

The issue with what you said is that last part this content isn't for people with unfinished builds it's for people who finish their builds and can keep moving forward through the stages yes mobbers are better for this then Ajax but that's how it's supposed to be Ajax is mainly a support character with a mobbing potential but besides that this content is for people who are fully built and have most of the characters as a way to have some hard content to farm

[@rinslittlesheepling1652]

>Just make Ajax (and other shooters) viable in Void Erosion They are. I saw a guide today from a guy with thunder cage and enduring legacy builds that, by his words, would work on any character. In the video, he walked around shooting everyone, and never run out of bullets.

[@meegs369]

My biggest issues are how incredibly expensive some of the new systems are. (Weapon Cores, Implanting and Upgrading) Sharen's mechanic on bosses being turned off is shitty imho, she is the only stealthy character, let her do her job since her outpost usefulness is gone. Some of the drops for particles are horrendous or you just 1-2 at most, when you need 36 or something. I have a few minor complaints but those are the big ones I think are bothersome at times.

[@michael_rodriguez]

Tfd got boring playing the same maps. Using new descendants to demolish the same enemies does'nt make it less boring. It's always a race to clear the dungeon and only a few descendants can keep up in team play.

[@dasiyaking9031]

The game is butt! Outta all this Q&A tlk not one person in the community spoke out about player on player collision! All this "gooner" community care about are skins and being able to whack off to "jiggle effects." Let me being careful before a gooner get me ban for speaking against stooooopid skins!

[@fullspectrumdominanc]

Ok Melony Mac 😂

[@seanweber4114]

You can play in a private map. And just solo everything, you don't need to play with the gooners.

[@D3athBr1ng3r22]

@@dasiyaking9031 This had been asked in the past and they said that player collision was by design and that they did not intend to remove it. Not sure if they will change that decision in the future but well...

[@skezuh]

just dont buy the skins? and yea the player collision thing should be changed ngl ​@@dasiyaking9031

[@anonymousgamer8807]

You cant "manage power creep" and listen to the community at the same time. People dont want their character nerfed, when you buff the weak characters thats where power creep starts, when the next character is released.

[@johnmorales9078]

Game is bugged right now, drop rates are jacked, 30 interceptions battles with 0 crystallization catalyst drops.

[@LividAardvark3911]

My assumption in regards to the number of male and female descendants is probably... Money. I assume they are making stuff for what sells. Gonna guess the people who play the male characters need to start spending more money lol.

[@slik286]

cool :) hope s3 will be a longer dungeon with 6 ppl even if all use same one

[@cyric2010]

I'd like to see Freyna get nerfed. People dont even play the game when they use her. They just use one power and a million bad guys die from poison as soon as they spawn.

[@Hhhhhhhhhh767]

Male descendants need more attention.

[@luisf.9438]

I love that they don't nerf characters, but buff others, instead of killing the game with nerfs like Warframe.

[@vogelbert7082]

Problem with this is that you will just play a walking sim when not using ines freyna and bunny etc. Its just lame at this point. Mobs will never be a challenge this way. Also designing everything around them isnt that healthy for the game.

[@kgrass976]

It’s not that hard to make a strong build in Warframe. Also the stuff they nerfed can be somewhat un-nerfed if you know how to do it.

[@PeopleRTheProblem]

Agreed. My favorite part is how only three characters are viable. And after this update 97% of guns are useless due to the stupid ass core system

[@kgrass976]

@@PeopleRTheProblem that’s what turned me too to TFD. The core system isn’t fun. Also didn’t like the some of the module systems either

[@PeopleRTheProblem]

@@kgrass976 this seems like bandaids to get as much money before abandoning the game

[@MrPhins]

I don't understand the hangup on balance. It's a pve game. Nobody is affected by OP characters. In fact, just the opposite when bossing.

[@Lowlight23]

I’m disappointed they didn’t say anything about carrying ivermectin progression from normal descendants to Ultimate descendants. I’m sure it’s not a problem for players who play a lot, but for us with limited play time it’s a big deal. 🤷‍♂️

[@kgar06]

Balance should be the only thing they work on right now, and the priority within the balance changes should not be power creep. You create usability of Ajax, Yujin, etc by reducing player power (nerfing)...specifically ines, freyna, hailey, bunny. If those characters aren't carrying runs with ease, it creates a reliance on ajax's shields and shield buffs, it creates a need for yujin to heal, it creates a need for Kyle's shield buffs, etc. Suddenly, all characters become interesting. If they don't remove power creep from the game and just bring everyone up to ines,freyna etc levels... you'll have any descendent in a group of four speed clearing. No difficulty, no risk. They say they want to create content that slows these guys down... thats more complicated and more work to do than nerfing some player power. It needs to be done.

[@KiritoHDGaming]

Sorry for the rant. The rubber banding and the stuttering and frame dropage fall under the same boat for me, They're all because the fact that the servers are not stable enough to handle all the crap going on at once, because I only experience this stuff when i'm using descendants that are literally wiping everything off the map and then they need to figure something out with the optimizating of this game too. Because it doesn't matter if I play on performance balance or Fidelity, it doesn't matter which one I play on. There's always some. Type of stuttering and any type of combat, so plane on one doesn't make it better. It just makes it slightly more uptune, meaning I won't have the issue as much, and I don't know what it is and why they're having so many of these issues. But I'm assuming it has a lot to do with the power that is behind the personnel. You're playing because I will say this before descendants got such powerhoused. And I played the game at the beginning of this life cycle. I never had any issues, so not only the powerhouse of the descendants but also with all the new stuff that they're adding to the game are causing issues and stability issues on the servers. And it's not gonna really fix itself. Due to the fact that this is what they want in the play Style, they want the hack and/, which don't normally go really well in the open world environment. In my opinion, you notice a lot of hackenslash games aren't open world, really, at least the ones I've played. And then the first descendant, in my opinion, was never set up to be a hacking/shooter. I'm sorry. They should've stuck the route that required team, play, and everything because if they keep on putting content out, that is about hackenslashing. Shooting to the point where a lot of their contents solo play. Only that game is just going to die. Quicker, it is literally a co-op. Pve shooter make it seem like that, and they're going off the trend where everything is just solo now and what I mean by that is, literally all solo content in this game is 20 times easier. Think co-op play, and I'm gonna be honest. They don't do a good enough job to teach new people. How can you do things in the game, really? And when people come in and play, they can learn the basics, but like build wise and stuff. You're gonna really have to go to the outside and watch on KZbin and stuff to find a build and what to do. Cause you're not gonna really get taught that. In the game and honestly, this game, I think, would have done a lot better if they went more of a traditional mmo. Route, you know, add clans and stuff like that. Revolve around group play Google group mechanics. Not this hackest/shooter hero type thing, because let's be honest, those kinds of games don't tend to last long. And I'm going to be honest with you. I solely picked this game up and enjoyed it. Because yeah, I thought it was gonna be a game like that, but if they go down this trend more and more. Of a hack and/shooter, there might be a chance I might even drop the game because I'm those kind of games do not last long and they never turn out to be fun in the overall run. Because they're repetitive. That means if this game is going to continue that route, it's going to become more and more repetitive instead of more and more new content. Like I'm not going to lie, adding leaderboards to a pve game is basically toxic already, in my opinion that it's a game that doesn't even have p VP in it. And you're adding leaderboards that just don't sit right with me we'll see how they are going forward. Cause I'm still supporting the game. I enjoy it. Still, I just find it. That, as time goes on, it's like, do they really know what they want to do with this game? Because there's so many changes ever since season one, they're always changing stuff for the complainers. That complain about everything, and then they add new content. That's literally easy as hell just to make it easier because of people crying and complaining because they're bad. And another thing I'm starting to feel like the time period this game was inside Beta, they really did not do a good enough job to find out what they wanted to do and go forward with this game. Because the good thing is they listen to the community, and there's constant updating, but if the game came out in a great state if the game stayed on a constant state of steadiness. Of content issues being fixed correctly There wouldn't be as many updates that we see. There's always updates, because there's always something going wrong. And they're always fixing something or nerfing content that right there should not be happening, and they're obviously going the hackenslash route even moore, because the fact that you can literally solo every boss now, basically besides death stalker so I hopped on this game because it was a looter shooter. And most looter shooters have a clan system and a mmo type fill to it, and you're not just running around, destroying everything and never really dying. You know, there's actually something challenging in the game. At the moment, this game has nothing challenging. And it sucks because the fact that then you go with the casual player base. There are always something challenging for them. Because you know they're not either putting enough time in the game or can't, or they're just not good at the game and it sucks for the hardcore fans, because what are the ones that hear? And play longer and support more instead of casual fans, where most casual fans still probably having them put more than the up $40 in this game. Probably 'cause I will say this anybody below mastery rank 20I still see walking around with Skins from literally season 0. So that tells me that they quit the game and then finally came back. And they just don't support the game in any way shape or form the only people that really put any effort or any type of money to help the devs to continue this game or anything are literally people that are like mastery ranked 22 and up that is just my belief on the system. And another thing ISIS I don't normally complain about stuff. But they need to make the set dropped external components easier to get, and they need to stop doing this thing where, for some odd reason, emos scenarios, when I go get something And the game, all the generic versions of it always drop gold. Rated for me or purple, but every time I get set drops for this set external components. They're always dropping in blue, and that's kind of annoying. Now I understand I'm used to R. And G base, but to have to kill a boss like you said in the video like 500 times You know how repetitive that bow c*** is? It's already bad enough that they're having c*** Like the ETA vendor uniform sets for the defiler and stuff have to run it so many times just to get that like that, right? There is downright, just disturbing, and I'm starting to feel like. Are they really playing their own game that they're making currently Because how would they find this fun? It's already bad enough that we don't get as much content as we were hoping we get enough to last us a good month every time it's updated. So out of the 3 month-long seasons, we have about a month and a 1/2 of great gameplay footage, and then a month and a 1/2 where it's just a drought. Which does normally how a lot of live service games are? But they could easily do other things, but instead they want to hit us with these events where we get a bunch of free stuff. And it's like, what about all the people that are mastery ranked 2827, maybe even 29, if that's even possible yet? They already have everything in the game, and they're just playing it because they find it fun. What are you gonna do for those players? Because it seems like you're updating the game. For more the casual base than the actual players that play this game all the time. Nope, not trying to put hate out there or anything. It's just at a certain point. People need to like open app and realize that the game is going down a hy good path, but at the same time, a bad path, because I'm starting to feel like it's like they don't know what they really want anymore, because every time they drop new content, they always fix it. To make it easier like why? How about you? Tell the people playing your game to learn to play the game. Or you tell people why or you add something in the game, actually, to just make it to where people can learn how to build things and make it to where when you build your builds, the multiplicative. Power boost that you get for all your stuff that you put on your build. There's like a calculator in the game or something that could tell you what you're going to do instead of going out and testing everything for hours on end, they see what the best build is like. You have literally a calculator for the Skill power modifier, but you don't have it for anything else, and that's kind of annoying, but Hey. Whatever happens in the future, hopefully is better for the game? But like I said, I have my hose, but I also have my non hopes for this game because the game feels like it's gotten worse Uber the time period since it first came out. Because first, they literally had everyone complaining about the outpost. To the point now, outposts are literally utterly useless. That a content in the game is the most useless thing in the game. Now, that's how badly things have gotten about people complaining and how they followed and fix things to the complaints. The amount of fixing complaints that they have done in this game could have went towards making more content instead of fixing stuff for crybabies that don't even play this game anymore or come back for like an hour or two in a new season.Just to drop it again

[@HeWhoFinesses]

Just add the genshin style of getting artifacts where you can spend a certain resource to get better stats.

[@Onry_Old_Lady]

I didn't have rubber banding, other issues till today. Today is was so bad, I couldn't play anything. It was ridiculous extremely bad.

[@riosasin3086]

If you didn't do anything just casually kill void boss and open a pattern, the game will give you kinda accuracy as the percentages show on the pattern, the purpose is oblivious If you use the search tool in the game to target the item->pattern->where drop, either to find out where to get it or which boss you need to defeat to open the pattern including do it at Anais, the game will soft-lock you by low that item percentage drop, just not at 6%, for example, 2 part A and B same 32% if you search for part A, the game will mark the part A and highly give you the part B or even 10% and 20% first. this will reset after you get the part A so do all over if you want to get multiple part B IF YOU BUY THE PART FROM WEEKLY ETA SHOP MAKE SURE THAT IS THE LAST PART YOU NEED TO CRAFT THAT ITEM, because the game will hard-lock you by counting all parts that you have and low all percent the part you don't have, to the point when you only need one more 32% part to craft the item, that item drop change across all pattern will low as 6% or even worst only way that i know to break this is success craft that item and that it into your inventory. I bought an item from ETA (in this case a peacemaker nanotube for a test) 10/12 times the game will give me the item i have bought from ETA even while the pity meter goes up 20% every time i finish the boss until i take the peacemaker i have researched from anais then it stops happening, so if you want to abuse this better keep full set blueprint of the item in your inventory If this suddenly changes that means they know they have been caught red hand and change their algorithm number around or find another way to mark your drop Those are some algorithms i have discovered and used it against the game for a while, i abuse it to the point i can get what i want with minimum need for shape stabilizer to boost the drop through dis-include all parts i don't want out of the board even have patterns will give me catalyst or activator as i feel need it, The game is full of algorithms to lower the percent chance of getting an item in-game when you need it than the percent shown in the pattern. after spending enough time you will know how they lie to you. trap you, trick you. to punish you, and drive you to their shop, Nexon 6% again i guess

[@R3dAnt89]

I just started a few days ago and its alright

[@seanweber4114]

Who's your starting decendent.

[@leonkenedy4616]

Call me old fashioned if you may but since TFD is a PVE only game I´m of the idea dungeons requiring DPS, Tanks and healers like in the old TERA´s days would do wonders to the game since the social aspect is so lack luster.

[@seanweber4114]

The community used to be good and then the gooners showed up so the good community , ninety six percent of the community left.

[@cherrybomb0388]

Instead of player housing at this point I would rather they made it so the playable characters would hang out in Albion and be in the skin and look you set up. And whoever you are using is not there, since it’s you.

[@ChildOfTheSoul]

Then why did you make yujin who is a healer😂🤣

[@seanweber4114]

I just want to know if ever going to make number seventeen a playable character.

[@MrJack2449]

Show us your God roll slayer set!!

[@theowl415]

Get rid of blue and purple weapons. Use that energy/effort towards new and unique ultimate weapons

[@trembledust6819]

why? Some people still use Tamer and with the new launcher mods to increase explosion radius u'll probably see the return of Gleys using V. Organ launcher.

[@seanweber4114]

You need those to increase your master rank. You have to use each weapon to proficiency 40. At least once. Or your master rank is going to be Sorely lacking.

[@big_gucci_scorpio328]

In my opinion they really need to work at the balancing of difficultly in this game, as well as descendants and guns, im fine with there being bossers and mobbers that steam roll content but up the difficulty until there's at least some challenge, because to me the game gets extremely stale seeing and playing the same descendants and weapons wiping the game like it's a walk in the park, to put it bluntly the game is WAYYY too easy

[@strengthinone2911]

The male Descendents are the least used ones in the game on average regardless of meta. You also have to look at the so-called sex appeal and demographics as to who are playing this game the most. The cosmetics they focus on the most are almost always on the women. The message is clear that Nexon will only make sure that the female Descendents stay on the top of the totem pole.

[@DILUSI]

Its balanced just youtubers only use the meta build and the player base follows the sheep, all descendant are fun ones you put time into building them

[@DESCENDANT-c8r]

Poor keelan I feel his pain 😢

[@dracodragniel8648]

What do you mean? He got buffed and clears faster than Bunny in mobbing.

[@PeopleRTheProblem]

@@dracodragniel8648😂😂😂

[@MrLion1]

grats on 200k drybear!

[@NobodyInParticuIar]

It's not like this game is hard anyways, and the way some of the descendants are designed can trivialize most of the game's content when built properly, splashed in with a bit of RNG regarding equipment and modules. It gets kind of dull once you reach a certain point, and personally I like some difficulty in my games, but most people are happy with the way things are with the game. As long as they don't just mindlessly buff every descendent to where they all just nuke everything and make the Vulgus nothing more but punching bags, I'm content.

[@Alsacu]

Any one else getting one shot in Void Erosion 20 after today update?

[@MasterDracer]

Will get fixed soon.

[@jlaw3504]

Spoiler no never seen a game have this level of power creep so quickly

[@sassysaddles9981]

i dont know, sounds like any other gacha game, people were expecting different things??

[@jlaw3504]

@sassysaddles9981 This isn't a gacha game? What are you even talking about

[@UltimateDespair98]

PLAYER HOUSING HELL YES

[@SandorThePuppy]

Can we stop acting shocked when they pay more attention to the female descendants? What do you guys see when you enter Albion? What is the female/male ratio? There you go.

[@Baya86]

Allright in my opinion. This game is about speedrunning and not standing in an Ajax Bubble or something like that. I like being able to solo most of the content...

[@ggthx]

Sure, but IT IS a multi-player game...

[@PeopleRTheProblem]

That’s the problem. They don’t spend any time thinking about how any skills will work for the style of game this is. That’s why now nearly all the guns are useless. And nearly all the descendants are useless

[@PeopleRTheProblem]

That’s the problem. They don’t spend any time thinking about how any skills will work for the style of game this is. That’s why now nearly all the guns are useless. And nearly all the descendants are useless

[@vogelbert7082]

After 1k plus hrs i just want to play something else than ines bunny or freyna. Im in waiting mode just doing dailys.

[@dynn457]

so they just ignoring and choosing being lazy for balance? ok another 3 month season 1 re-skin dungeon and 1 re-skin coughing baby ''buffing everything to freyna/ines power level'' without ruining kit and identity *sure bro* (also more powercreep = more easy and boring = finish everything fast) glad dont get blinded by lights and poored into so much money like others at start of first season to shiny things , seems like whole purpose of these devs wanted to make this game from start to just money grab from every new op descandant with gooner skins for each season with sprinkle of some reskin content... dont invest money just enjoy free or play something else. game not gain players instead losing more every month,this game not gonna end well.

[@Comeback180]

That was 1 thing I was missing why wasn't the bubble pulling in enemies, it was so useful to arrive teammates or stop yourself from taking so much damage now enemies can freely keep damaging you more despite shooting so many bubbles out. This has to be a rhetoric thumbnail. Its especially not balanced gender wise. Most female descendants only need 1 or 2 buffs to be sufficient. The female descendants don't need any more buffs besides Gley who's been left behind. Male descendant needed 2, 3, 4 or even 5 buffs for Jayber. This group needs larger buffs. 1 thing I noticed is there's been no electric colossus hard boss or electric abyss boss added in the game to counter Freyna's outstanding power.

[@Hollow_Ichigo]

How about how boring the update is

[@gamerwits4329]

Its meant to be boring

[@caaiocompton]

I use Thunder cage due to commodity reasons, nothing about if it's strong or not, it's aoe is just good enough to kill trash mobs. lmao

[@rorygasai6611]

i want them to find a way to at least ease the frame drop problem when we are in group play and defeating a horde of enemies. It's especialy bad with characters like Ines Freyna and sometimes bunny in 400% dungeons/kiper mining/defence with big groups of enemies. i get it bad solo too in the 400% and in most cases it causes me to go down more time then i would like and i get very frustrated with it not just a console issue its on pc too. On another note im straight but i also would love to see more good looking male characters shine like the females and have more ultimate males like yugin or maybe jayber, im all good with sexy female characters showing cheek or having more female ultimates, but i would also like to see the men getting some tlc nd if they also make them scandalous i'm fine with that too if they want to sexulise everyone that's cool too i don't realy care about that stuff in any fake media like games or anime exc, aslong as the game is fun i realy dont care what they look like as long as i dont feel sick looking at them 😅

[@UndeadPandaLegion]

im honestly over TFD at this point Nothing in that game should have a % drop rate below 10%

[@kurosanyasuke8236]

Love this game but this don’t make sense. Three out of the first four descendants added were support characters. Now you’re saying you’re not making content for such roles. I don’t get the direction this game is going. You added a super broken character that can do and refuse to make a decent male character

[@Reka69655]

I still wait Melee descendant

[@MrJamesX007]

I have killed pyro over 1000 times and I still don’t have the God roll

[@bobmalarkey4621]

In the case of buffs, just adding more crit chance or higher mp recovery isn't a buff. Sharen is the perfect example of this BS that Nexon is fooling people with. Her invisibility is nullified in Colossi fights. With the change to end of mission rewards allowing you to choose outpost amorphs, you no longer need her to do anything in the game. So what does Nexon do with her ultimate version? Give her 2 mods that should be in her base kit to begin with and try to forcefully change her into another ability spam mobber. This is a Korean game, there will never be balance to it because they're just gonna keep recycling the same bullshit zombie horde mode content. Along with giving us "new" characters that are nothing but revised and improved original characters from the past, just with a different element attached to them (Ines is Viessa 2.0, but with electric damage). The power creep will only continue. At this rate, if the game survives another 6 months, Ines will be useless by that time because they'll find a way to turn Ajax into an AoE spam mobber or some sort of bullshit like that. This game reminds me so much of the mobile games that were popular between 2010-2015. The only difference is that TFD isn't a turn based side scroller where you would absolutely have to spend money on because the grind for new characters or materials was so insane. TFD is really no different at this point. Nexon failed to see what was really needed to win over the Western market. Tits and ass only got us in the door. What we, the player base found, was a bad Warframe clone with no style or direction. It's just sad because this game could be absolutely great, it has so much potential, but it's too late now. Between the power creep, the streamlined content, THE LACK OF CONTENT PERIOD, RNG bugs that only ever seem to increase with every update, and everyone using the character for everything, the game is dead. It's now one of those games that you play just long enough to do the dailies, and you're only doing that in hopes that one day you'll log on and there will be something to do betond that.

[@reznya2700]

Is it suppose to be balanced