Sonic Origins Plus is still pretty weird

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dshaynie

dshaynie

7 ай бұрын

The segaman has returned to bring us more sonic origins goodness
for better or for worse lets check out whats new.
(Disclaimer: this video is extremely overdue I wanted it done a month and a half ago)
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Sonic The Hedgehog is copyright Sega
Music used:
Casino night - Sonic generations
Intro Teelopes - Sonic Mania
Metal sonic - Sonic Mania
Sonic Origins announcment trailer
Welcome to Station Square - Sonic Adventure
Sonic The Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles Medley - Sonic 30th Anniversary Symphony
Palmtree Panic "P" mix - Sonic the Hedgehog CD
Sunset Park Zone (Act 3) - Sonic Triple Trouble
Green Grove Zone (Act 2) - Sonic 3D Blast (Genesis)
File Select - Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Spring Yard Zone - Sonic the Hedgehog
BlueSpheres - Sonic Mania
UFOSpecial - Sonic Mania
LavaReef (Act 2) - Sonic Mania
Super - Sonic Mania
Angel island - Sonic Mania
Chemical plant (Act 2) - Sonic Mania
Icecap zone (Act1) - Sonic 3
Stardust speedway (Act 1) - Sonic Mania

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@urlhnd
@urlhnd 7 ай бұрын
9:22 Dang, I genuinely believed you. The Amy render was off but everything else was just about right to convince me this was true. Great work.
@Zakko64
@Zakko64 7 ай бұрын
she doesn't even have a proper classic solo render :(
@yadienbegode2778
@yadienbegode2778 7 ай бұрын
That non-JP box art Amy gave me "fake" vibes, and I was very skeptical, but at the same time, Sega would never fix major things lol
@dshaynietheawesome
@dshaynietheawesome 7 ай бұрын
@yadienbegode2778 im not good at recreating that artstyle i did my Best for whats on screen for a couple moments
@Prophet_JtheGamerYT
@Prophet_JtheGamerYT 7 ай бұрын
@@dshaynietheawesome I actually thought it was a mod lol
@bonedude1286
@bonedude1286 7 ай бұрын
I wasn't paying attention to Amy, so I didn't even notice.
@DoKDelta
@DoKDelta 7 ай бұрын
Rip to people that just want to play Tails solo 💀 Update: ggs to the people that just want to play Tails solo
@jamesthehedgehogofficial
@jamesthehedgehogofficial 7 ай бұрын
💀
@ViltrumiteIsRite99
@ViltrumiteIsRite99 7 ай бұрын
I have no context yet, but Solo-Tails is a fun time. Play StudioOpolis act 1 with him. The boss is way cooler that way.
@bonedude1286
@bonedude1286 7 ай бұрын
​@@ViltrumiteIsRite99He's talking about Tails in Sonic 1.
@ViltrumiteIsRite99
@ViltrumiteIsRite99 7 ай бұрын
@@bonedude1286 I’m dumb. Origins, not Mania. Thanks
@darkoyt9094
@darkoyt9094 7 ай бұрын
Officialy the 69'th comment 💀
@YeomasBros.2008
@YeomasBros.2008 7 ай бұрын
dshaynie you holding Classic Amy like she’s your child is adorable
@SPAMTON249
@SPAMTON249 7 ай бұрын
Still better then sonic 4
@kaanbolat2403
@kaanbolat2403 7 ай бұрын
Not much of an accomplishment tbh
@KatZEdition
@KatZEdition 7 ай бұрын
Because one is a collection and the other is a cheap ass mobile game passed off as the fourth mainline Sonic game
@autumnoraki
@autumnoraki 7 ай бұрын
Not a high bar
@Alaqeam
@Alaqeam 7 ай бұрын
I hope you drop your phone in toilet water
@TheNerdyKoopa
@TheNerdyKoopa 7 ай бұрын
The replies mad as hell lmao
@BomberDuck
@BomberDuck 7 ай бұрын
Technically Tails' flying animation is his running animation. They also might've built Amy off of Tails in 3&K, seeing as she has her running animation in Doomday, lower hitbox, and only getting the super message when all the super emeralds are obtained
@CesarTorres61296
@CesarTorres61296 3 ай бұрын
They 100% built Amy off of Tails. I could see Knuckles being built off of Sonic.
@HedgehogAdventurer
@HedgehogAdventurer Ай бұрын
One more thing, so is Super/Hyper Sonic’s floating animation
@GeneralAwesomenessPlays
@GeneralAwesomenessPlays 7 ай бұрын
Still can't believe this collection is still this lack luster even after plus. Also, thanks for showing off my super amy art! Was a very pleasant surprise
@Microsave2
@Microsave2 10 күн бұрын
Why couldn't they add spinball on genesis or the master system versions of sonic 1,2 and chaos! Or even chaotix and 3D BLAST!
@GeneralAwesomenessPlays
@GeneralAwesomenessPlays 9 күн бұрын
@@Microsave2 Think its a combo of alot of other things. Game gear is more Marketable then the master system, Rights issues, Theyd have to make a Game gear, Master system, Genesis, AND 32x Emulator. Or they just wanted the bare minimum when it came to a DLC add on. Not defending them tho, Cause its still bull how thats still all they could do after a whole year for 40 bucks
@Alaqeam
@Alaqeam 7 ай бұрын
Eternally sad that partner select isn’t actually real 😢
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 7 ай бұрын
Kind of my one gripe with Sonic Mania forcing those bonuses to be in the "No save" run.... forcing you to play through the whole thing in one sitting. Just don't really have time for that, so we have to watch the bonus "knuckles and Knuckles" ending on youtube if we want to see it.
@fireflygaming8764
@fireflygaming8764 5 ай бұрын
​@@MarioMastar That hasn't been the case in ages. When Plus came out they allowed bonuses to be with the save files. Unless they reverted it back.
@canontheory
@canontheory 7 ай бұрын
The fact we don’t have the full screen master system versions of the game gear games is a travesty
@user-vt6dd4kz5t
@user-vt6dd4kz5t 5 күн бұрын
Because the master system version sucks!
@canontheory
@canontheory 5 күн бұрын
@@user-vt6dd4kz5t I cant disagree lol but still would be nice
@tthunder878
@tthunder878 7 ай бұрын
7:11 that’s exactly what the Neogeo pocket collection did
@fnsiii7975
@fnsiii7975 7 ай бұрын
I’m not gonna lie you had me at the level and character selection gag @ 9:20 😭😭😭😭.
@Super_star_remix
@Super_star_remix 7 ай бұрын
the fact that tails going under water in scrap brain act 3 crashes the game is wild how did they even mess that up?? Edit:good news: the fixed it In update ver 2.0.2 They also fixed the combined ring sprite in S3 and k
@Mahdi12
@Mahdi12 7 ай бұрын
Sega.
@Codename-Thefox
@Codename-Thefox 7 ай бұрын
Walking to a certain spot in Labrinth zone with tails crashes the game for me
@mrboost4186
@mrboost4186 7 ай бұрын
It's in Labyrinth Zone as well as Scrap Brain 3. I think it only affects console versions too.
@shadowkirby7210
@shadowkirby7210 7 ай бұрын
No way that's real
@dshaynietheawesome
@dshaynietheawesome 7 ай бұрын
Well who’s playtesting a full sonic 1 playthrough as tails for an update
@Fnaffan777
@Fnaffan777 3 ай бұрын
Sega: Bugs their games Fans: Fixes their games
@sonicvr2364
@sonicvr2364 Ай бұрын
True
@garfieytreal
@garfieytreal Ай бұрын
Christian Whitehead: Upgrading their games and putting it on phones
@qdh2788
@qdh2788 17 күн бұрын
​​@@garfieytrealsega: takes games Ports and makes them 10% worse
@Microsave2
@Microsave2 10 күн бұрын
Fans do what sega dont
@user-vt6dd4kz5t
@user-vt6dd4kz5t 5 күн бұрын
Atleast they patched the game..instead of leaving it like this be like colors ultimate atleast they took some accountability for their shit unlike companies like game freak who don't even do a jackshit
@Eer4000
@Eer4000 7 ай бұрын
9:17 this part actually got me. I could forgive everything about sonic origins if it just had proper save files like the mobile ports did. The fact it doesn't is honestly why I think the game fails
@mrboost4186
@mrboost4186 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely moronic decisions on Sega's part to remove these features. That company must have some right idiots in positions of authority.
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 7 ай бұрын
Tbf, you can replay the levels of any of the games in my Data and Ranking
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, the whole "make people who bought the Deluxe version eat a middle finger as we had to rebuy the full package" was the real reason. I almost didn't buy Sonis Superstars entirely because I felt like they'd pull that again... Incompetence, I can handle, but straight up screwing over the customers who SPENT REAL MONEY is pretty unforgiveable...
@Caprisk_official
@Caprisk_official 5 ай бұрын
​@@gengargamer5657 ok now tell me how I keep my chaos emeralds, or even use super sonic a.k.a THE REASON WHY I WOULD WANT TO REPLAY THE LEVELS
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 5 ай бұрын
@@Caprisk_official For 1 and CD, they don't even have Super Sonic, so there's no issue w/ them, and w/ S3&K, it does have its original save select in Origins. The only one that does get screwed over is Sonic 2
@joshyywoshy
@joshyywoshy 11 күн бұрын
That opening is the most accurate analogy that I've seen of Origins Plus lol
@Xxandrew01
@Xxandrew01 7 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie you almost had me at 9:19. I literally thought I missed them updating and fixing that when I went to play as Amy in Sonic 1, 2 and 3&K but you got me back to reality at 9:40. Well played sir, well played indeed. Here have a sub. ;)
@raphdude0931
@raphdude0931 7 ай бұрын
wish this was a mod and not a edit
@RyneMcKinney
@RyneMcKinney 7 ай бұрын
Casually I have no problems with this game except the MJ songs being cut
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, unfortunately that was the one issue outside of SEGA's control
@Fall-oo6mt
@Fall-oo6mt 7 ай бұрын
really couldn't care less about that, love mj but he butchered some bangers (specially carnival night act 2 and launch base act 1)
@tnmgroupptyltd1509
@tnmgroupptyltd1509 7 ай бұрын
They aren’t butchered. Give them a proper listen and not play the originals, since I only really played Origins. They’ll stick with you
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 7 ай бұрын
@@tnmgroupptyltd1509 exactly!
@Fall-oo6mt
@Fall-oo6mt 7 ай бұрын
@@tnmgroupptyltd1509 launch base maybe, but after hearing carnival night's original prototype version i just can't come back to mj's version
@ToastyMann
@ToastyMann 7 ай бұрын
Sega literally had a decade to port these mobile versions to other platforms, and THIS is the state that they're in. Origins isn't horrible, I'd even go as far to say it's perfectly *fine.* But considering the AMOUNT of problems on display here, it makes you wonder how this even got released. Compare this to Bethesda's Doom 1, 2, 3, and 64 remasters on modern consoles, and the difference is night and day. For 30 bucks, Origins should be better.
@proton7631
@proton7631 7 ай бұрын
Not perfectly fine, they just broke tails lmao
@gmoneythestickman
@gmoneythestickman 6 ай бұрын
Should be 2 dollars or 5
@mredbadger
@mredbadger 27 күн бұрын
It makes sense when you realize it wasn’t made to lovingly present their history to new fans and offer the definitive experience to returning fans, this was just Sega trying to haphazardly have a new Sonic for sale to capitalize on the second movie’s buzz Same as Colours Ultimate for the first, and Shadow Generations for the third
@user-vt6dd4kz5t
@user-vt6dd4kz5t 5 күн бұрын
​@@proton7631 I Think they fixed that
@MyNamesNotShaneKid
@MyNamesNotShaneKid 7 ай бұрын
Such an underrated channel more people should subscribe so he makes enough to make videos full time
@TomTheyy
@TomTheyy 7 ай бұрын
My theory about why the save files are they way they are in S1/SCD/S2 is that Sonic Team was somewhat inexperienced with the Retro Engine of another team. And since Sonic CD's save file select interestingly also doesn't have a level select and just has you play the last level over again in perpetuity, they'd have to code in a new level select for that game when, as a reminder, they couldn't even implement the Drop Dash properly in those games, instead disguising a Spin Dash as it. So they probably just went for consistency in crippling all three save file selects to work like SCD's because they couldn't be bothered to get Headcannon to make SCD's save file select function like the other games. Though that doesn't explain the one save file per character thing, so maybe that's just a weird creative choice on their part. Also small correction, the Boss Rush save file glitchery was introduced prior to that update listed on TCRF, and it seems to affect pre-existing Boss Rush save files from before that patch was downloaded. I will say I don't blame them for trying to make SCD's menus more authentic to the original, controversial as that may be.
@KperaOfficial
@KperaOfficial 7 ай бұрын
fans do what sega don't: fixing their games
@XxDramaticBatu
@XxDramaticBatu 7 ай бұрын
Fans also do something else that sega still doesn't: Acknowledge the existance of Sally Acorn Sega, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE HER EXISTANCE AT LEAST-
@AscendedEmperor
@AscendedEmperor 7 ай бұрын
​@@XxDramaticBatunever
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 7 ай бұрын
Except Sega did patch this game
@KiddyDong
@KiddyDong 7 ай бұрын
​​@@XxDramaticBatu Not going to happen anytime soon, fanboy. No offense, just reaffirming facts.
@MrRuePine
@MrRuePine 7 ай бұрын
​@@gengargamer5657 Did they fix some glitches and their badly composed rendition of Prototype Carnival Night, Ice Cap, and Launch Base 2 yet?
@LolManI-75
@LolManI-75 7 ай бұрын
9:23 OH COME ON That would've been so COOL though 😭😭😭 Also good job on the editing! For the whole video btw, it looks amazing! Especially this part specifically, you make it look like they actually put this in Origins Plus lol, minus Amy's render, but still. Sega makes mistakes like that. That's why I thought that was a real addition lol
@gaymerherb
@gaymerherb 7 ай бұрын
My goodness, what an exhausting level of inconsistency. Thanks for having the patience to go through all this, i think i'm still gonna stick with Sonic 1 Forever, 2 Absolute, 3 AIR and other fan projects because wowwww this is so convoluted.
@brittany16950
@brittany16950 7 ай бұрын
Omg your opening skit!!! 🤣 I appreciate the effort you put into that! 💟
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 7 ай бұрын
Btw, if you go into My Data and Ranking, you can replay all the levels from each game as any character as long as you’ve beaten the level once.
@Jabodie
@Jabodie 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 7 ай бұрын
@@Jabodie Welcome
@Spongey_Bob1999
@Spongey_Bob1999 4 ай бұрын
7:31 best part
@erkanerkan3643
@erkanerkan3643 3 ай бұрын
sega jumpscare
@Monkeboy4679
@Monkeboy4679 Ай бұрын
SEGAAAA
@GabrielGBR1933
@GabrielGBR1933 2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the effort that was put in that opening skit,pretty good
@Naninanaaaaa
@Naninanaaaaa 6 ай бұрын
Love this video! Also the intro was rly what convinced me to subscribe lol. Even if i somehow ended up hating the video i would stay for the silly comedy and animations
@Gator159
@Gator159 7 ай бұрын
Things I'm still thinking about but no one is talking about. Thank you for making this video
@dontletmebrown
@dontletmebrown 7 ай бұрын
Bruh how does something this high effort have so little attention. I'm not even a huge sonic fan but stayed around for the production values and entertainment
@Gsho2
@Gsho2 7 ай бұрын
Finally , A legend has Returned!
@XAutumnXandCorruptednebula
@XAutumnXandCorruptednebula 7 ай бұрын
Video was worth the wait!
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 7 ай бұрын
13:57 the reason for Sega Not wanting to use hyper Sonic anymore IS because hyper Sonic is Just a Bonus Feature to doing the Lock ON Magic
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 7 ай бұрын
That and because of power creep
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 7 ай бұрын
@@gengargamer5657 i only heard of Power creep in Like mmos and other stuff but Not a Sonic game
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 7 ай бұрын
@@e2011ugdia They’re trying to avoid the problem Dragon Ball ran into where they introduced a bunch of different powerful forms, w/ most falling to the wayside and a bunch of them overshadowing Super Saiyon
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 7 ай бұрын
@@gengargamer5657 oh okay
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 7 ай бұрын
@@e2011ugdia Yeah
@Unexpectedstuff
@Unexpectedstuff 7 ай бұрын
The “blur filter” (in reality just a bad scaling technique) was a deal breaker for me, and almost nobody talks about it. If I didn’t just stumbled upon your video and listened at 18:25 - I wouldn’t ever buy this collection. Thanks. It’s still really weird how you can’t change it like you could in Mania.
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 7 ай бұрын
0:26 AWWW! Gimmie her! Gimmie! I want to hug her and give her _ALL_ my love!
@erkanerkan3643
@erkanerkan3643 3 ай бұрын
Sega jumpscare 7:31
@internetamenhotep
@internetamenhotep Ай бұрын
I gotta say man, the green screen sega suit was amazing, you're a good editor and I hope you keep improving
@joethetomato275
@joethetomato275 7 ай бұрын
I honestly fogot about Origin's existence lol
@Stupid_side_of_YT
@Stupid_side_of_YT 7 ай бұрын
Yeah
@macylee8028
@macylee8028 2 күн бұрын
Fogot😂
@brandonwilliams6119
@brandonwilliams6119 7 ай бұрын
The intro was cute with you holding Amy like a plush😍
@rom_2763
@rom_2763 7 ай бұрын
what the..... bro i was just watching you last night and now you uploaded? this is the best day of the week
@dshaynietheawesome
@dshaynietheawesome 7 ай бұрын
Then i guess I don’t need to apologize for not having this out a month and a half ago when it was relevant
@Undecidedless
@Undecidedless 7 ай бұрын
Finally you did it
@aubreyholdinggun
@aubreyholdinggun 14 сағат бұрын
"Super Amy can't fly" * Amy depicted jumping off of the plane * Moments taken before disaster-
@theamazingmeh1759
@theamazingmeh1759 6 ай бұрын
Oh and excellent 3d models for the beginning animation 👍
@Hackstr_
@Hackstr_ 7 ай бұрын
Cant wait to see how you disect superstars.
@coolmordecai7866
@coolmordecai7866 7 ай бұрын
Your content is severely underrated
@Ezekielgaming125
@Ezekielgaming125 15 күн бұрын
0:24 Blud gave bro a marketable amy plushie
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 7 ай бұрын
You had me going with the save files thing, for a second I thought they actually put work in. Silly me, this is SEGA, the company that rushes stuff out the door and rarely goes back to properly polish and fix it
@por2geejeff26
@por2geejeff26 7 ай бұрын
That opening skit is to good dude.
@HEREISJELLYBEANLOL
@HEREISJELLYBEANLOL 21 күн бұрын
You holding Classic Amy is actually adorable dshaynie.
@SonicVC1
@SonicVC1 7 ай бұрын
9:22 you almost actually made me boot up sonic origins plus again because of that change
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 7 ай бұрын
The infinite hammer throw needs to become cannon. I prefer the Sonic X version though, where it seems to be driven by pure emotion. Then we can see Eggman really annoy Amy and belittle her, only to instantly regret it, just like Sonic X.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 7 ай бұрын
When they allowed her to be, Amy was really lit of a character. I never really gave Sonic X much attention cause I hated how she was depicted in the games as seemingly only existing to annoy Sonic and slow him down, but Sonic X made her much closer to how she is in Boom where she's a genuine force to be reckoned with, giving her the Chi chi or Bulma glow up. Fortunately they fixed her character in recent games making her all the more loveable and not just a really terrible stereotype.
@kohan64studios
@kohan64studios 7 ай бұрын
I love the 3D Models!
@DobieMeltfire
@DobieMeltfire 7 ай бұрын
7:59 Jawdrop 😲seriously I never knew about that!! 9:20 Dammit! I don't own the game, I was really hoping the partner selection was true!
@MiggleTheSmeghog
@MiggleTheSmeghog 17 күн бұрын
9:38 You got me there for a sec :(
@rabadoo
@rabadoo 7 ай бұрын
If a little more was added to origins, then I think it would be worth it, but I that getting origins on half off and then getting the dlc would be worth it as of now.
@I_EAT_QUARTERS
@I_EAT_QUARTERS 7 ай бұрын
i just got this and am playing sonic 1 for the first time, it’s a lot of fun. i think i’m motivated because i like playing portably and pink is my favorite color so i have been playing as amy
@FullDeMango
@FullDeMango 3 ай бұрын
Man you got me opening my Sonic Origins to check if that character selection screen was real.
@Mahdi12
@Mahdi12 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, it didn't make sense. In S&K, they named her super amy but not hyper which begs to question is what was her form in the previous games?
@mb8w27
@mb8w27 Ай бұрын
9:25 if they add that for the update I gonna do something to sonic and Amy, and knuckle and knuckles
@eljaminlatour6633
@eljaminlatour6633 24 күн бұрын
Also shows how little care Sega has with 2D games, they just pretend to care, and we just still grumble.
@colliongacha740
@colliongacha740 7 ай бұрын
Finally you post a video about SOP😭😭
@matthewisguy7336
@matthewisguy7336 7 ай бұрын
That SEGA metaphor character in the thumbnail 😂 I like the callback to the original video’s intro
@bonedude1286
@bonedude1286 7 ай бұрын
I think it's real stupid how Sega not only said that Hyper Sonic isn't canon when he could've been a perfect inclusion to Frontiers' Final Horizon update, but also that "only male hedgehogs have super forms." Like, that is the dumbest criteria ever. It's just an excuse to not make Super Tails and Super Knuckles assets for Heroes. As for the super forms themselves, well, Tails should keep the Super/Hyper loadout, where Super is by himself and Hyper brings in the Super Flickies. And the other super forms should have unique colors. I'd make Super Knuckles green (like the Master Emerald), Amy rose-gold, Mighty purple, and Ray cyan. As for Tails, I'd keep him the same brighter yellow, but if I had to change it, probably red. Overall, why doesn't Sega just add the 1/CD/2 mobile menus? THEY'RE RIGHT THERE!
@ShadowTheHedgehog-ei8tj
@ShadowTheHedgehog-ei8tj 29 күн бұрын
Dude Animation is good as heck
@jamesthehedgehogofficial
@jamesthehedgehogofficial 7 ай бұрын
0:27 cute!
@Fox_Tails38
@Fox_Tails38 7 ай бұрын
A new video! YAY
@Rose_playz887
@Rose_playz887 7 ай бұрын
Yass
@sassyimps
@sassyimps 7 ай бұрын
14:45 Some information regarding the Super Emeralds. The initial conception of the Super Emeralds were, as Iizuka said, likely not intended to have any narrative weight. They really were just a bonus reward to players, and were likely only added in so the extra seven special stages made specifically for Sonic & Knuckles wouldn't go to waste. Super Tails was also implemented to give Tails _something_ to work with, and his age and species likely weren't considered at the time of the form's creation. However, according to a lot of up-to-date sources and lore, as well as a handful of semi-official statements, the Super Emeralds and Hyper Sonic _are_ canon, but they haven't actually happened in the canonical narrative so far. So the "best" ending of Sonic 3; the one where you get all the Super Emeralds, beat Eggman, and rescue the Master Emerald to stop Angel Island from falling. That ending is not canon. It never happened. It's essentially a "what-if power fantasy" scenario, again, as a bonus. Instead the "good" ending, where the same thing happens, just with the Chaos Emeralds instead of the Super Emeralds, is the canon one. To support this, the cracked "Super Emeralds" that appear in Heavy King's boss fight are not actually inert, they aren't even Emeralds. They're stone replicas. Some interesting things we can deduce and confirm about the Super Emeralds. The Super Emeralds appear after the Chaos Emeralds are brought to the Master Emerald's altar. It's entirely possible that the Super Emeralds are the Super transformation of the Chaos Emeralds themselves (Mecha Sonic and Imperator Ix in the games, as well as Metal Sonic in the comics have gone Super using the Master Emerald). To parrot a fanboy's ramblings (because I know there's one out there), you can kind of interpret it like Super Saiyan Blue (Or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, to each their own). It's essentially a feedback loop of power. You pull on a source of power to get stronger, but you make that power source stronger too, and pull from it once it's stronger, you're going to receive a greater boost yourself. In all likelihood, once their enhanced power isn't needed anymore, the Super Emeralds simply reverted back into the Chaos Emeralds. But this is dipping into conjecture. TL;DR Yes, the Super Emeralds and Hyper Forms were added as a bonus, it's not difficult at all to find viability to that explanation. No, the Super Emeralds in Mania are NOT the real thing, they're stone sculptures, likely added to let the fans know they haven't been forgotten by the creative team. Are the Super Emeralds and Hyper Forms canon? Maybe. Current consensus is that they _are_ canon, but the events of Sonic 3 & Knuckles where you obtain them _aren't_.
@OinglorBoinglor
@OinglorBoinglor 7 ай бұрын
IMAGINE how pretty colored Super Emerald sprites would've looked in Mania, probably would've been the best emerald sprites in the series. I'm so sad Izuka cracked down on them with an iron fist lol
@Steelwaterfall1
@Steelwaterfall1 7 ай бұрын
A buncha stuff was adjusted in the move to split the games, yup. Like the original Super fight being a dragon, evidently Izuka has been wanting Sonic to fight a dragon for years!
@retrofan4963
@retrofan4963 7 ай бұрын
Wait, so that means Sonic 3 & Knuckles is not canon, but Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles separate are canon?
@Steelwaterfall1
@Steelwaterfall1 7 ай бұрын
@retrofan4963 Not quite, it's weird. Izuka himself said some stuff like super emeralds were just game play bonuses, but during the split of S&K3 plans changed and we got Hyper Eggrobo instead of the Dragon
@retrofan4963
@retrofan4963 7 ай бұрын
@@Steelwaterfall1 It seems like he decides that because he's afraid the Hyper form will overshadow the iconic Super form if he considers the Super Emeralds and Hyper forms in 3 & K canon.
@hashimhussain8973
@hashimhussain8973 7 ай бұрын
Slim dshaynie is back (i do not regret this)
@dshaynietheawesome
@dshaynietheawesome 7 ай бұрын
Wait what
@hashimhussain8973
@hashimhussain8973 7 ай бұрын
@@dshaynietheawesome idk
@roxasthebandicoot4492
@roxasthebandicoot4492 6 ай бұрын
Excellent review
@Nightscrawler
@Nightscrawler 6 ай бұрын
Awesome video 😎
@KylerFlame
@KylerFlame 7 ай бұрын
I've been able to see the custom Sonic 1 title screens by loading a character and pausing, and going back to the game's title screen (Minus Amy, who's just loads the regular Sonic title screen up
@masudhasan70
@masudhasan70 7 ай бұрын
I bought Origins Plus on PC 2 months ago and I've personally had quite a lot of fun playing through these remasters. Although it's the worst optimised version of the game by far, (it was absolutely awful on my laptop at first before I upgraded my RAM and switched to an SSD) it's at least easy enough to mod to fix some of the nitpicks I had with the compilation. Nothing too game changing, but whatever. Anyway I love playing as Amy; she's already my go-to character for a quick playthrough of any game :p But yeah, the lack of a proper save menu for Sonic 1, 2 and CD really sucks. Granted, it doesn't bother me too much since I tend to finish the games in one sitting, and I personally feel collecting the chaos emeralds/time stones aren't really worth the hassle in those games. Still, it's a no-brainer when the older remasters had them around. I also feel sorry for those who got the digital deluxe edition last year as they still have to pay full price for Plus which is just simply a terrible deal so I can understand the hesitancy there. As a newcomer it's a decent deal I suppose, but yeah... even with its faults, Plus is the point where I finally consider Origins to be somewhat worth it, and it's what it should've been at release. It might've been better if Origins had received a delay to 2023 for exactly this. PS: I assume Knuckles & Tails is not an allowed option in S3&K because of the fact Knuckles has to take his own paths. Having Tails around to fly him would allow Knuckles to enter Sonic's paths which I imagine would create some issues. PPS: the Tails underwater crash in Sonic 1 seems to affect only console versions. Seems that PC is unaffected. Which is even more weird...
@geckoguyDaroh
@geckoguyDaroh 7 ай бұрын
Want to know something amusing? Headcannon actually thought about that and included eggman/eggrobo sprites for each of the bosses depending on who you play as, some of which you would never know without debug mode or level select.
@masudhasan70
@masudhasan70 7 ай бұрын
@@geckoguyDaroh I think the Eggman/Eggrobo fix was actually present in the original S3&K whenever it was possible to glitch Knuckles into Sonic's paths or vice versa. Headcannon did fix up the few bosses where this didn't happen; notably the Flying Battery act 2 boss.
@geckoguyDaroh
@geckoguyDaroh 7 ай бұрын
There's also technically a new intro to sonic vs mecha sonic (s3&k), in the original eggman just straight up dies, in the remake he falls out of his eggmobile, theres little tweaks like that scattered around.
@sonichedgehogchilidogs
@sonichedgehogchilidogs Ай бұрын
The intro is amazing
@anthonyyandall592
@anthonyyandall592 3 ай бұрын
I was excited that there’s challenges/missions lol
@fnaf2toybonnie
@fnaf2toybonnie 7 ай бұрын
9:30 i wish that was real
@bluey-next777
@bluey-next777 Күн бұрын
17:47 MADE ME LAUGH!!!
@Silskanaalsilschannel1234
@Silskanaalsilschannel1234 6 ай бұрын
9:24, how is it used, with choosing own characters on save files?
@Thatsonicandkayflockfan3-4
@Thatsonicandkayflockfan3-4 7 ай бұрын
Anybody got a sonic superstars ad while watching this
@enderbo
@enderbo 6 ай бұрын
4:19 we'll be right back moment
@Spinosaurgamer
@Spinosaurgamer 5 ай бұрын
My friend, allow me to introduce you to... Sonic Origins Ultrafix!
@bigkebizino8970
@bigkebizino8970 7 ай бұрын
This is awesome!
@chargemankenia
@chargemankenia 7 ай бұрын
Nice editing
@juliuswilkinson789
@juliuswilkinson789 4 ай бұрын
The sequel we all never knew we needed.
@sonic36741
@sonic36741 25 күн бұрын
7:30 an ad played at the perfect time and it was like a perfectly cut scream
@MysticNinTorres
@MysticNinTorres 7 ай бұрын
It’s an alright update to the base game, it just should’ve resolved all the issues we’ve encountered at launch
@maximyllion
@maximyllion 25 күн бұрын
getting all the emeralds allows amy to become "mildly adequate amy"
@KING_DANGER.
@KING_DANGER. 7 ай бұрын
i own sonic origins i i luckaly didnt find any of these glitches. and i thoughlt it was good. but its cool to know your expiriance now
@user-yz4mr1wl3c
@user-yz4mr1wl3c 6 ай бұрын
12:15 i really want to see some luigi galaxy shenanigans in sonic origins now lol
@JustinPlayzOfficial
@JustinPlayzOfficial 7 ай бұрын
Yay new video
@TheReZisTLust
@TheReZisTLust 7 ай бұрын
Im glad as hell Amys back in the gang as a DC SA kid.
@MohammedMunshi2011
@MohammedMunshi2011 7 ай бұрын
9:30 I actually believed you
@Hugelag
@Hugelag 7 ай бұрын
Origins Plus is alright. If you have already have the base game and want some more, go for it. Just don't expect as much as Mania Plus did. I'd definitely say to wait for a sale if you already bought the deluxe version. I'm in the mindset that you get the chaos emeralds, you get a super form. They've supposedly got infinite power, so of course they'd bestow it to anyone that gets them all.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, a sale for those who got Deluxe....if it were half off then we'd break even wit those who didn't buy it (as Deluxe was only $5 more). Still felt like a middle finger though and with Superstars doing the same thing.... if they do add some DLC down the line (to fix the true story cause GOSH...context!?) I hope it doesn't feel like we literally have to buy the same game again.
@jaydenc367
@jaydenc367 6 ай бұрын
Honestly it is still pretty good...like the price has already gotten better since it is reduced and 40$ for everything isn't so bad.
@JuliRocket
@JuliRocket 7 ай бұрын
Boss rush is broken btw on sonic 1 2 and cd. Loading a save on sonic 1 will send you to the credits. Same with sonic 2. And with sonic cd it sends you to the sound test and then to the 2011 main menu and if you try to select a save it won’t work, and selecting an option will send you to the normal title screen and if you try to load a save it will go back to the 2011 main menu, but if you do time attack the boss rush continues from your last save. At least this is what happened to me, plz tell me if you had different results with loading the boss rush.
@hazy_nightshade
@hazy_nightshade 7 ай бұрын
great video!
@Breexee
@Breexee 3 ай бұрын
"KNUCKLES WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?!"
@agreedboarart3188
@agreedboarart3188 7 ай бұрын
*WHAT* The upward thing in the beginning of Palmtree Panic is supposed to be a loop?!
@dshaynietheawesome
@dshaynietheawesome 7 ай бұрын
I guess? I just never noticed the repeating background I thought i was just running up a straight line this whole time but i guess it makes sense why the characters and the plus shaped spinny thing change perspective
@Alejandro333777
@Alejandro333777 7 ай бұрын
5:34 hmm I knew I wasn’t tripping knew that was new
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 7 ай бұрын
16:55 the reason hyper amy IS called super Amy IS because Amy's super Form isnt actually a super Form ITS called supercharged Form which IS simmilar to full Power movie Sonic being Just a powered Up Form and Not a super form. I call that Form supercharged because the trailer of Origins plus Put the Text supercharged before revealing super amy
@JamesR624
@JamesR624 7 ай бұрын
7:59 WHAT???? I never did either untilt JUST NOW! I always figured the weird flipped looping background was just a limitation of level sizes and layers back in the day...
@Bread_37
@Bread_37 7 ай бұрын
17:44 tails is technically also just using his running animation but he already flies (or I guess hovers) in that so its fine
@CarlosAndresProFacheritoXd
@CarlosAndresProFacheritoXd 6 ай бұрын
I swear we need a phone Sonics update where Amy, Mighty and Ray are finally playable characters
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