PoE 2 - The Best Review I've Seen So Far From Non-PoE Main - Lily Reacts

[@MyOpidig]

That filter is CURSED XD

[@HoneyCombAI]

I started watching right at the holy cow, and was tripppppped out

[@w.lf404]

At first I thought what is he talking about and then I got jumpscared.. damn that face is going to haunt my nightmares

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

If he wants to wear his own gear he should try SSF

[@riseofphonoi]

"pauses vid mid sentence with a full mouth : mghllglshhhbleh" Yeah, valid point lily

[@markus.schiefer]

AngryJoe is lucky to have based Alex and funny OJ on his team.

[@jorge15266]

Funny how over the years they've become the best part of the channel. AJ can be pretty regarded at times, and very obnoxious.

[@Pixelbendr]

Too bad Joe is a shell of his former self while going "safe" on reviews and somehow Alex is the best thing that happened to the channel.

[@framinthor]

@@Pixelbendr well Alex is also kind of safe, but it feels like he just speaks in a more mature way so it's fine, Joe lost his edge of being that guy who yells out of frustration, like how the playerbase actually feels about something.

[@iU9LY]

@@framinthor idk who you've been watching but joe is still angry and i haven't seen any safe reviews tbh.

[@italianspiderman5012]

@@framinthorit’s funny how Alex went from being known as a hater and nitpicker to now being “safe”. Alex is just reasonable, has it’s own preferences but he’s absolutely the most sane person of the three.

[@bpusef]

You don't get 5 waystone drops on the boss for running rare maps, you usually get two since most people are doing 200-300% increased waystones. Sustaining can be a problem if you're dying in maps occasionally which you can expect a new player to do. Don't look at it from your 30k hour PoV when the guy is obviously talking about noob experience. I'm sure most new players are having to re-run low tier maps and 3:1 those drops to progress.

[@spizganed]

right now im pretty far in endgame and i have a quadstash tab full of 15's i get like 3-5 per map without boss maps the stronger ur builds is the more u will get the early sustain could have some issues for some people when u dont have atlas skill points yet but thats it

[@pixelpox11]

@@spizganed Which is exactly what the guy said in the video. 1:1. As you fill your atlas skill tree you will get more waystones then you know what to do with (so high tier maps), but early game you gut screwed if you die a lot. Tbf I didn't have those issues but I also had thousands of hours in PoE1 so...

[@MidnightPausch]

dog im at 8k hours in poe1 and still die occasionally in maps lmfao

[@Fuerwahrhalunke]

I've been on a tier 5-10 waystone gind for about 20 hours now. Even if I have my waystone drop rate as far up as I can go, I still have problems maintaining the tier I should be playing on (tier 14). I could grind for 50 more hours and then just reforge until I have enough tier 13/14/15 waystones, but I would be lying if I didn't say that that is very draining.

[@spizganed]

@@Fuerwahrhalunke sounds like ur doing something extremely wrong to be in t15 maps after 20 hours lookup some guides map sustain or whatever maybe ur missing something

[@zeroxd.cypher3899]

4:56 he is talking about cinimatic cut scenes, it was a W take quit D4 for POE but blizzard cinimatic cut scenes are movies. The trailer for POE2 though was really good

[@seanwhelpley3935]

The campaign is 15-20 hours? I spent that just in Utzaal

[@zerox4434]

Agreed.

[@Hoose777]

Utzaal = up and right then wipe hands of the dump

[@MrClindberg]

It's honestly not that far off if you are not doing stupid shit xD

[@Nelforr]

@@MrClindberg So you're implying that 95% of players are doing stupid shit? Well.. You're not wrong.

[@setcamper]

Yeah, it might be now that good guides have been figured out and a player dips into trade to upgrade weapons, but the average player going with the flow and just enjoying the game will easily double that. I was over 30 hours deep into Act 6 on my first Bloodwitch, playing blind the first week and I've got plenty of PoE experience.

[@HalIOfFamer]

holy shit she caved under the pressure she found god and hid her veluptous knees xD

[@LezArtist5]

You can't expect Lily to show skin all the time 🫣

[@Paultimate7]

her WHAT

[@HalIOfFamer]

@SharkyMcStevenson-m9p tf do you mean he?

[@justanormalguy4885]

Think he's probably just talking about cinematics for the Blizzard comment

[@iteststuff3854]

I hope so. Otherwise, it was truly a brainrot comment.

[@OCrAcIK]

they are both almost trash, but we dont play this games for the lore do we? i mean lily viewers here, not exactly story, lore, campaign wise content

[@DamnitMan88]

The story in Diablo is better. Does POE2 even have a story? I'm sure 99% of all POE2 players simply skipped the story after listening to Una talk in the slowest pace ever.

[@fadingdimension]

​@DamnitMan88 bad monster loose, hoodie god did big woops, chase bad monster across the world, recruit Aztec Elon Musk to make Uber weapon for monster kill.

[@RandyLin0-er9sc]

He literally used the word "presentation" not "story quality", Don't know why people keep focus on the quality part. Everyone knows that diablo 4's story is trash, but at least we know what's happening through the campaign.

[@swagcannon8847]

For new players that didnt copy pasta builds on the internet and tried to theory craft, the beginning of maps was a struggle. Getting waystones in boss maps, is you expecting the new player to beat those bosses. Many of my friends, including myself found our builds were hot trash in maps and spent a lot of time rebuilding our passive tree and finding better loot. not getting decent waystones didnt help.

[@TheGodofdeathryuk]

Even veterans, starting weekend of titan was miserable, and titan still feels bad

[@saunorine]

@@TheGodofdeathryukkripps newest titan build video is him stacking es lmao

[@captaintoet1983]

​@@saunorine because of armor. Don't let the important thing out. Still scuffed that ES is so overtuned

[@steven-de3to]

Yeah parts of maps are just not new player friendly. Beat the boss first try to get more waystones because if you don't, you lose the map, you lose the boss, you lose a bit of xp for good measure too. I swear GGG would take the wife and dog too if they could, just to punish the plebs not playing an optimal build.

[@frankkeck3114]

I think the biggest issue for waystones for me, until quite late, was the inconsistent tiers that were dropping. Nothing feels good about running a T15 and getting 6 of 10 drops heing T4, T6, and T8. And thats with the higher tier nodes on the Altas tree.

[@Redacted_762]

This! I was juicing every single map from 1 onward all I heard was that ways tone sustain was bad. And I still ran out at 6/7. It's doghsit.

[@TheSeth256]

Would you prefer these waystones to just not drop? They aren't dropping instead of T15, just additionally. I make a nice amount of exalts selling them.

[@vexmyth0clast]

Lily has the most blursed thumbnails in the entire Poe community 😂

[@DarkepyonX]

Ngl i thought scuba stef had gone on ozempic and got new glasses before I saw it was Lily. Always so pixely pffft

[@Barugane]

Alex is probably one of the most seasoned rpg-nerds out there, its more than "he's got some good takes".

[@OLApplin]

I agree with the mid-tier waystone grind. At level 15 it is fine but when I was tier 6-11 it was horrible. When I was completing, lets say, tier 8, I would find tier 4-5 waystones, sometimes 6, rarely 7 and never 8. If I find one, after DAYS of playing lower tiered maps, it led me to purposefully run it normal (not magic or rare) in fear of dying, which would throw me back 2 or 4 tier down. It was really a pain and needs to be changed.

[@HoneyCombAI]

Hmm I went for the waystone passives and was able to sustain up to 10 with just magic, some rare maps. After I dropped those nodes to level up another character, for the pack size nodes, I cannot advance in tiers. So there's a problem and solution in my eyes, depending on your goal!

[@OLApplin]

@@HoneyCombAI early on I also focused all my points in waystones drops and waystones higher tier chance. And still, mid-tier drops for my current level was abysmal

[@Yugentap]

I'm not sure why so many people gain say people expressing waystones drop rates...(or other difficulties they experience for that matter) Like immediately putting it on that player as doing something wrong. No. Just throwing myself as an example, from around t3 I regaled all my maps up to t15 and it was very much a slog. I hardly get precursor tablets at all. Only recently I got around 109% rarity and it has helped some but I think too many don't realize rng is apart of all of this. Very early on I specced into waystones drop Rate and the rares and waystones upgrades and still it's not great. What's more lily says just do bosses.. Well first you need those to appear and next you have to of course not die which is doable. I only ever get 2 waystones from them though so that only covers the map and a plus 1 so I would be doing lesser tiers. This of course doesn't account for the boss tree which good luck getting a irradiated corrupted boss because no matter what I do I can never get precursors to affect mine... I guess all I'm saying is way to many people dismiss other experiences and insist that the person is does something wrong and don't realize they can just be getting unlucky. This is why you have safe guards for this types of things. To me waystones absoeshould not be difficult to get up and running and should not require rarity whatsoever. Let's not all forget this is a game where it will have league in which people will go through this whole grind over and over again. As for myself I will likely keep to standard to have the satisfaction of making progress. Many casual people just don't see arpgs the same as the people who only play them.

[@gentlemanx7987]

Lily: "This lair map is not that bad" Every minion player: ...

[@Mercuie]

People getting a bit hung up on "presentation" of the story. It's about the way the story is presented. So things like cutscenes either cinematic or in game, voice acting, music (during those moments), camera movements/positions and all that jazz. It's saying nothing about the quality of the story being told.

[@tomtorpedo]

Trading is what makes it baby mode. If you use what you find or craft it stays hard.

[@steel5897]

Even PoE1 is like this. SSF is hard mode, most people don't realize this until they play it.

[@KingTUMMAN]

Trading shouldn't be priority for Gear Progression, Period. ppl just way too used to use trading for "Progressing" your gear since POE 1 Trading it's fine as it is but we shouldn't aim that GO TRADE GO TRADE OR YOU'LL NEVER PROGRESS I can see that PoE2 going on a way to fix it, it just needs more time to tweak and adjust the crafting a bit more.

[@Jefers1]

@@KingTUMMAN Trading would be fine if it was a in game mechanic and not on a random website that got people hacked. The only way to fix progress is to completely rework the non-existent crafting, but GGG will never get rid of their gambling orbs.

[@KingTUMMAN]

@@Jefers1 i can only wish that GGG will use the guild mechanic from Last Epoch lol

[@Jefers1]

@@KingTUMMAN I was also hoping they would steal Last Epoch's crafting and trading system, but now I think that's dreaming too close to the sun.

[@ElewIV]

The issue with mid tier maps is it has a wide range of levels they drop at. It's very easy to get a steady diet of tier 5 and 6 waystones when doing 9/10/11s.

[@burningpipe2627]

thats not an issue, and never has been in over 9 years of poe

[@Kore_Invalid]

The part about the story i think he meant basegame D4 not the expac, for me theyre both very good but if blizzard still knows how to do one thing its cinematics, but who knows maybe 1.0 will have cinematics aswell

[@superbad8008]

5:20 I completely forgot about that part of Diablo 4. Vaguely remember being told by an NPC that we fought a weak offshoot of Mephisto. We just fought his unimaginative fursona in the most dramatic way possible.

[@danielmarriott6580]

7:46 cursed camera filter when lily takes a bite lmao

[@haschwell2757]

I mean i agree when he says Blizzard is much better at presentation. They have so many more people and way more resources to spend on stuff like cutscenes and cinematics. GGG generally speaking doesnt do that kind of stuff. Not saying PoE 2 story or worldbuilding is worse but I am saying that having cutscenes consistently throughout the campaign is a much better medium for storytelling.

[@DamnitMan88]

What story in POE2?

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

@@DamnitMan88 Just cos you skip the story in PoE doesn't mean there isn't one. Or says anything about it.

[@DamnitMan88]

@ArawnOfAnnwn who is the protagonist? Where did the monster come from? Why were they being hung in the beginning? Where did they get their power?

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

@@DamnitMan88 The protagonist is the character you choose, and they were being hung for the same reason everyone was being persecuted by the Count. The rest of your questions were answered in PoE 1. Now tell me who is the wanderer, why does our character just happen to awaken so much power? Why was Inarius able to escape all of a sudden after thousands of years in captivity? Why didn't we see him when we went to hell in D2? Why are we able to overcome the power of both angels AND demons combined in D3? Why did we not encounter Astaroth before when going after Mephisto in D2? Why is Inarius so dumb?!

[@AdamTuxTengler]

@@ArawnOfAnnwn Wanderer is the protagonist of D1. Our characters are awakened nephilim, so they are far stronger, than normal humans. I don't remember how he got out. We didn't explore the entirety of hell, it's probably a bit larger, than act 4 :D. Because nephilim can get stronger, than both of them. I think that was mentioned by Lilith in D4? I don't know, he was on a vacation maybe? Most angels are not very smart tbh. They are very straightforward and are supposed to represent various virtues, so they are pretty narrow minded. That's just from the top of my head, because I actually remember bits and pieces of Diablo lore. PoE 1 didn't really manage to leave a lot of impressions like that. I like the game, but I have no idea who anyone is. What the hell is Maven? :D Whatever. PoE 2 campaign was more interesting though, I think I might actually learn something about the lore this time :D

[@ZomgZomg007]

Waystones are a pain early on, and only streamers like yourself can say its not bad that early on as your playing it literary 24/7

[@krispurcell3375]

Hang on.... 2:46 is he riding that?! You can ride the thing?!

[@randomhero6365]

5:46 he was referring to older blizzard story telling. He says d4 is horrible all the time

[@halloweentimemachine]

I’m a poe casual, can someone tell me what the problem was that “honor” is supposed to be solving? I’m not sure why they added it, but it somehow (to me at least) is worse than lab (and I hated lab)

[@Rakschas666]

But Lily D4 has really good presentation. Thats why it sells to casuals. Its a showroom car with booth girls. The test drive feels AMAZING. It drives ok unless the road is wet or you need a suspension, a thousand miles in it keeps leaking oil and the manufacturer isnt gonna respond to warranty claims about faulty LEDs and diagnostics. A story being standard stuff isnt a problem, quite the opposite. D4 delivers a good presentation as long as you get carried by a new players excitement momentuum and dont stop anywhere to take a closer look or ask questions. That is why no one can be bothered to play through the campaign in D4 more than once. No. One. Not even the Devs.

[@Infestedhobo1]

According to lily, if you say anything even remotely positive about any aspect of D4/Blizzard, you're a moron because "STORY BAD TOMB LORD BAD HURRR"

[@scribblescrabble3185]

9:37 yeah, I made sure to make room for blink in my build just because of those traps. And now I use it everywhere.

[@goldmeistergeneral]

oh man i haven't seen an AngryJoe video in like 10 years, how time flies

[@DarkepyonX]

Another good Non poe review is the Diablo speed runner. Someone didn't pay attention to Diablo lore , the dog is a manifestation when they are recovering strength . Mephisto has been the hand guiding everything from d1 to d4 and even immortal which has a few really great quests tied to Leoric family past where mephisto starts the chain of events that gave us D1. The "Dog" is explained in game if you paid attention 😂

[@xlnt2new]

"What did he just say..." :D my reaction too, that was too real Lily

[@yesnooo9029]

ping pong maps for a DAY? we've got jobs darling

[@lolsalad52]

She's talking on going from T1 to t15/16 maps, it's not that crazy as she said it's just another progression system, you shouldn't go from end of campaign to t15 maps pretty much instantly

[@bpusef]

@@lolsalad52 well you can’t do it instantly since you have to run literally a minimum of 120 maps with no deaths to get from t1 to t15 completion.

[@hisrichness]

about maps not dropping for people. she is totally right. make your maps yellow and also do bosses if you want maps to drop. the problem with this, is why should I have to do that? in Poe1 I can avoid all bosses with my mapping build. the reverse is also true. I can skip a lot of enemies and go straight to a boss with my bossing builds. why is it a good thing that my choice has been taken away in Poe2?

[@AdamTuxTengler]

That's a good question. The PoE 2 changes reduce build diversity. The reasons why: - Everyone is scared of dying, no exceptions. Punishment is too severe, so there isn't a lot of variability on the defense side. You want to be as tanky as possible == abusing the current most imbalanced tech (ES stacking with GF/mana stacking with EB/MoM), while retaining solid damage. No 6 portal defense here. - Necessity of both mapping and bossing. Speed mapper, that can't handle pinnacle encounters is crap, unless you just always roll 2 separate characters and log one in just for the pinnacle encounter, to upgrade your atlas. Most ppl won't like that, they will prefer builds with both good clear and single target. Speed mappers and dedicated bossers will see little use. - Rarity. That crap is broken, any build that struggles to fit in healthy amount of rarity, won't be played much in T15+ maps. This might not seem like a huge issue now, when meta is fresh and awareness wasn't spread. But if they keep rarity untouched, then magic finders will be the only builds existing 3 months from now. - Skill/ascendancy Imbalance. Some stuff is just better, but this point will always be here. Something will always be better. So what you pointed out is not the only problem, but it is also detrimental to build diversity. And what are we getting in return? Absolutely nothing as of right now :D. It could have a benefit of more variety in gameplay, more people experiencing both bossing and mapping. It could spice things up. But the reason why majority of ppl don't boss in PoE 1 is the punishment. It's expensive to fail and there is no safe and cheap way how to learn. That was made strictly worse in PoE 2, it literally has no redeeming quality :D. It is again expensive and failure is far more likely. This can only change, if they remove the punishment for failing the boss. They would pretty much have to give you infinite attempts on pinnacle bosses. That solves the problem completely and we will have that varied gameplay experience. Everybody selling their keys is not varied gameplay experience :D.

[@AdamTuxTengler]

Good middle ground would be, to give you infinite attempts on pinnacle bosses with caveat. Meaning the key would work as the trial keys we got in campaign, it's not consumed, until you succeed. But, the moment you die, the boss drop goes to 0 - flat zilch. You can still kill the boss to get your Atlas passives, but you are not getting any loot. That way it doesn't prevent ppl from progressing a mechanic, they clearly meant for you to progress - Atlas passive tree - but you don't get to farm boss loot, unless you are actually good at the game and have good build for the boss.

[@nikp3516]

I know I’m in the arpg algorithm, but are you guys getting like 100 D4 ads with Rhykker talking about how amazing D4 is now on basically every other KZbin ad?

[@johnbraund3371]

It's Blizzard coping, I think it's hilarious cause he's playing POE2

[@SpacedogD]

Hey foaks

[@chefmike3794]

yea

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

I have an adblocker, so no idea.

[@Cryttanz]

He's right about the PRESENTATION of the campaign/story not being up to the level of blizzard. More cinematics would be nice

[@lori977]

KZbinrs need to go back to having intros like that

[@chrislastname1994]

Running them rare doesn't mean anything. Running them with suffixes is what gives higher drop rate

[@faxen123]

the mario maker clip was the perfect analogy

[@trancecod]

I swear we live in times when people just wait till their rolemodels, streamers, youtubers, influencers etc make a choice for them... and then they jump on that train, double down on it and from there, everything is black and white. You can't say POE did something wrong or that d4 did something better, immediately you are an d4 fan...

[@BalianBlue_]

lol OJ is the nick name of Other Joe, there's Angry Joe, the guy who's channel it is, Alex, he's the guy you're listening too and he does these rapid fire reviews, and then Other Joe aka OJ. Probably the funniest of them all lol.

[@Orktosqt]

Takes are not really bad if they're made by non-poe main player. average viewer won't know that running Waystones rare is the way to sustain them, so for intended audience, these takes are not bad. if someone is wrong about details of game mechanic, it's on the game to be obscure for no reason, and not on reviewer.

[@ZomgZomg007]

Presentation = Visual and also the story. I have no idea what is going on the POE2 story, and in D4 this is pretty dam well presented. Also visually it runs even on potatoe systems where as POE2 UE5 can be brutal.

[@Don_I84N]

Map sustain was poor. I don’t care if some hardcore players insist it was fine-it wasn’t. Even if you allocated every sustain node on the tree and ran your maps rare, you still couldn’t sustain them properly. That’s a design issue. Saying, “You just have to run boss maps,” is not a valid argument. If you’re required to jump through all these hoops just to sustain maps, the average player is going to struggle and suffer significantly. Map sustain shouldn’t be something you need to worry about at all. Who cares if top players end up with an overflow of maps? If they have too many, they can simply stop picking them up.

[@Xenon129-nq6hz]

Let's be real PoE 2's story so far was... Meh... I'm not saying D4 was good, it was also not that good, but I felt D4 story was more like actually a story, if you get what I mean. Personally, I like Souls like non strait forward story telling, so I liked PoE 1's story, but it's not really story telling unless you put things together yourself. So, I can see why Alex ( the voice ) from the video said story was not the level of Blizzard level. I don't think he is criticizing the story its self, and rather he is criticizing the way it was presented.

[@Zeet1]

i'm on T5 keys and i run out and been running out since T4, plus i make them rare.... not running into a lot of map bosses

[@CurrySage]

You need to look for the nodes on the map that show that there is a map Boss present. If there's no boss modifier on the node, no bosses will spawn in the map. Make the higher tier maps rare and only run those on nodes with a boss or delirium, ritual, etc. Run anything else for all the empty nodes on the map, I usually run whatever tier map i have the most of.

[@Manzanahh]

i specced into the waystone drops when i started out and full cleared every map you also have to alc or at least regal and go for towers first to add extra content i have tabs of maps this way hope that helps

[@HiddenStr3ngth]

Halfway through T13+ mission now(SSF), and I have not run out. I don't know how it is even possible to run out in T4s, unless you straight up don't pick them up. You can even buy them from Doryani if you check him often enough, on level up etc. While playing a slow crappy melee slammer. Use tablets on towers, take waystone nodes (tho I didn't until later, low tier you get plenty and Doryani sells t1-5), bosses, rares (which there are multiple ways to have more on a map). Waystone drop chance on crafting the map, use more of your currency. Prefixes don't increase it, suffixes which are the negatives, do.

[@Augzzz]

You should make a beeline for all the nearest towers, taking the fastest and least rewarding route possible, then dump tablets into all of them before you start running all the surrounding maps. With a few waystone drop chance or +quant tablets affecting the area you should be getting more than enough map sustains, especially from boss maps

[@smithers4420]

Way stone drops were appropriately low when I was running my maps magic and didn't invest Into them in the atlas tree but then I realised that there were steps that I could take to fix the issue. This is one thing they got right and I'm not mad at them at all for it. It was player error, my error that I was not finding enough.

[@kingleil2777]

I am a sub, and you’re coping if you think that involving “map foreplay” before getting to the thing you WANT TO DO is a good idea. The maps suck in a lot of ways and it’s not going to rope in some new players. The truth is that even enfranchised players are coping on. The standard for games has changed overall, that doesn’t mean making it frustrating to play, it means designing smarter. Right now, this has some flaws, and it’s early access so I will give it a similar 8/10 but the flaws gotta get cleared up. Right now, the end game is kinda lacking. I ran tons of early maps on rare, but getting one shot on a boss map to get stones is shitty. I never ran out of stones, but a juiced map you spent hours building to perfection only to die to RNG is bad design. Don’t even get me started on the Ascendancy issues and dying to a glitch, a lever, or other imperfection after spending hours farming up honor resistance. Shit needs fixing.

[@celzolsen8988]

Movement is not good. Floaty cursor, god-awful input delay on both keyboard and controller (at least 100ms), dodge roll literally stunning and rooting you in place at the end of it, forcing you into a never-ending loop of dodging to try to get ahead only to get deeper and deeper into the problem or getting bodyblocked. The dodge roll needs a lot of work. Maybe it should have its own talent tree or at least class-specific. Warrior having the same bad roll as a ranged fast character makes no sense.

[@AKABoondock19]

I dont think you understand what presentation is

[@Moonhowler89]

Alex (Who does the Rapid Fire reveiws for Angry Joe Show) Usually has good takes. And he plays ALOT of games :)

[@nonstandard5492]

3:31 very true, never thought I'd agree with the whole slower is better ethos, but imo rn the best part of poe2 is the campaign(🤯) with no or minimal twinking out. The boss fights all feel so good when you're at the appropriate power level

[@JordanSTX254]

D3 was WAY harder when it first came out.. just ask Kripparian since he would the only one who mainly beat it with his ice sorc buddy. only 2. until they completely nerf;d it

[@CharlesCresawn]

As soon as one div drops baby mode begins. Got my first in act 3 on my first character. Difficulty fell off a cliff after i went on trade website.

[@caseybrown6813]

I love how anything "D4 Good" is just INCREDIBLY Triggering to people. Lol imagine thinking every single compliment is "Shilling" kinda pathetic tbh

[@santipenalver3136]

I dont think you know what presentation is

[@quertysberg]

You can mount the roa????

[@mategido]

Holy shit we can mount that borb? Damn thats cool, I don't really want mounts as a mechanic, but if some maps had them, especially the extra huge ones that would be very cool

[@theperfectgame484]

I think a new players take is the best because vets have bias.

[@itsmemanny5826]

just because you disagree doesnt make him wrong. Your takes are not always 100% but you act like they are.

[@Powernudel]

but hes right. story in diablo 4 may be bad but its delivered better. broken down poe2's story is also just: follow the beast, im not sin but i am... surprise

[@saiyanspirit8199]

@ds_lily about mid waystones, he is not saying top 0.000001% of players has issues with them of course you guys know how to optimize everything, stop analizing like he is speaking about you.

[@gellertn]

Is that chikcen wing with potatoes?

[@mattb6646]

Please tell me she knows who angryjoeshow is

[@jackrapier6748]

What is the point of this video? Does anyone care what her reaction to this other video is? If so, why? I’m curious. This seems like the laziest content imaginable, posting a video of yourself watching someone else’s video.

[@Infestedhobo1]

Lily either intentionally misunderstanding the "D4 has better presentation" line or is just blinded by D4 hate. D4 looks and sounds absolutely amazing, that has nothing to do with the story, gameplay, monetization, etc. Imagine being able to have a nuanced take.

[@c-tothefourth4879]

Looks decent

[@dslily]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l53LnqGmmLt2q5Y

[@aska221]

It looks like a mobile game, lil bro

[@Licht1995]

Stop it. Get some help.

[@MrWhoDare]

@@dslilythank you for that link. That shit was funny 😂

[@Greeblio]

People aren't skipping Map Boss maps - they're going for them, dying to BS, and losing the chance to even look at the boss. GG Noobs

[@learnway8016]

Dying to mechanics you mean. Oh, i forgot, everything that doesnt hand you loot is BS these days.

[@AdamTuxTengler]

As lvl 91 minion infernalist, I rate this game a Crypt out of 10. GGG, come back this instant and let skeletons through the door!

[@FunTimesAllNight]

glad you thought he was talking about oj simpson too

[@limcg9160]

dafuq we can ride on a bird? 3 characters and didnt know that....

[@SidRandom]

I went back to give Last Epoch another chance after watching this and I am digging it. Maybe PoE2 just pissed me off so much with one shot kills or I dunno what but I'm really having fun playing this again.

[@darktower74]

Regarding the waystones... I did drop a bunch on the vendor t1s to forge into t2s, but as this lady says, it isn't much of a hurdle. One thing people should aim for is selling their crap with a premium tab. If you can squeak out a few exalts from rare gear that drops, you can straight up BUY juiced maps for a third the cost of juicing them yourself. Also, complete the maps. If you're waystone-starved, don't dip the second the map completes. I've picked up plenty of valuable currency (the lower and mid-tier stuff) just from finishing off the magic mobs, plus the occasional waystone. I've watched hundreds of Angry Joe shows/reviews/etc. and Joe, Other Joe, and Alex have their own style. Alex is the most articulate, Joe is the loudest, and Other Joe is the funniest. If anything, they are hyper-informed but still communicating subjective thoughts a lot of the time. The objective points Alex makes here differ from mine not because of the facts he shared, but because I can't help but exude glee at the initial offering from GGG. I've been gaming a very long time (though I'm no pro), and I've seen the red flags, failures, scummy behavior, and straight up fraud delivered from studios and devs. POE2, in its first MONTH, has already made me an adherent and I've allotted a great deal of patience for its development. I believe the history of POE1s development will echo in POE2's. This translates into a dynamic, surprising, challenging, and exciting game for another decade! Not many games are able to inspire such hyperbole from me and NONE of the others are installed on my computer now.

[@BlackbeardKNAC]

That's not AngryJoe, did he sell his channel or something?

[@Kenichitr]

even the most hardcore LE players wouldn't call it the best arpg ever

[@itskmillz]

holy fuck the jumpscare got me good

[@tayne1807]

When are we gonna see a video calling out all content creators who chew their food into the f microphone. Clickbaiting and poor information are irrelevant compared to the scourge of creators crunching, chewing, and slobbering into people’s headphones

[@banqsterz8160]

Lily coping so hard on the story bit. It's the only thing D4 is good at; the story

[@unholyarthur1]

Miss Bean. OMEGALUL

[@metalskelly]

I’m loving poe2 but I’m still laughing when people say d4 has no “endgame” when maps is just nightmare dungeons but way worse.

[@maxwellwu7499]

I think people are too stingy to orb of augment and transmute normal waystones. Saving for that 300 for an exalt when they can just have an exalt drop from the waystone modifiers

[@SharpsPanda]

Alex and Other JOe are the soul reason to watch Angry Joe.

[@jmorales5072]

I enjoyed POE 2's campaign lore. It's not too much that I didn't just " press skip" when ever I could. xD

[@RandomKeebs]

lmao I was not prepared for the level of offense you took to him saying Blizzard had a better presentation of their game. Wild stuff. Also the "Spaghetti" monster truly was not interesting in POE2. I legit forgot why I was playing through the campaign in Act 2 until the Hooded One Reminded me at the very end when he did his reveal.

[@gumed85]

No hate but, the copium is strong with Lily

[@jlowe92]

he literally said once you get into higher tier maps the map drops are ok...

[@KillaCamTron]

Please GGG, just add an index tab. You can already hover over stuff in the tree but just add a place where it breaks down what everything actually does.

[@Saiperia]

i have to agree waystone droprates suck even if you do the bosses you still can get way lower tiered ones then the map you completed .

[@OptimusGrime85]

I got completely dicked over on T10 waystones. Had to 3 to 1 all but 2 stones and had 6+ each of T11 through T13 by the time i finished. T10 just wouldn't drop for me. Ran all my maps rare since T6 and prog'd towards bosses. It happens.

[@skinless333x2]

Eating on Stream/Video is so yikes.

[@ПётрПаршиков-ц3ж]

WAITAMINUTE I can ride a rhoa?! How?

[@HuhWhatHuhwhatHuh]

That small narrow map is not bad

[@guntherfrager1068]

YOU CAN RIDE A RHOA!?¡!?!?

[@dusanstojkovic9093]

Not yet. They plan to give us mounts in the future.

[@TheLegendaryAuron]

uncontrollable laughter almost 1min in holyyyyyy

[@Liratan]

The map point was just about the dip in like T5-T10 maps. The way loot and map sustain feels is less like things are slowly getting better and more of you're getting nothing and map sustain is barely enough and than you get the atlas points especially the boss points and than you're seeing 5000 rare items in a map and shitting T15's out of your ass. I think they need to smooth that curve out. I played the first weekend of EA casually so I was a bit behind my friends but I also make the filter for my friends so I found it really odd just how different the amount of map sustain and quantity of loot between someone in even 13 maps and someone whose doing 6-8 mod T15's and T16's. It's a bit extreme

[@learnway8016]

You have some weird commenters in here ds_lily. Did your little clash with RageBaitVideos summon the DadGamerBrigade somehow?

[@fafnirymd]

2:47 wait wtf? how to ride that bird???

[@PHISHDAdotEXE]

Magic find is the root of all evil also is poo poo water.

[@mythos4]

This is gonna go to Alex’s head

[@dalebandalan9312]

For everyone calling baby mode. Well yeah were all playing on standard. Wait till seasons. For now its just a fairly well polished beta.

[@HoneyCombAI]

Passive Exile is such a good name 😂

[@ivanbssouza]

I run rare maps, boss maps and still could not sustain, waystone drop chance is shitty

[@sephrinx4958]

2:47 wtf how is he riding that mob?? 3:56 Exfuckingscuse me what? What did he just utter? What words just were bequeathed from his lips? Objectively false.