Dual Sonos Subs - Overrated or Amazing?

[@saurabhmittal8237]

I almost closed the video the moment you said we need to run a ethernet cable between the two subs....very funny :)

[@RQuinton79]

Multiple subs makes a HUGE difference in audio quality, particularly in a medium to larger room. It seems in theory to be overkill, but in reality the bass evens out in ways one never expected to hear because it is (was) not common to have multiple subs. Great video, again. I appreciate your content and hope companies realize how good you are and start to reach out with demo units for review.

[@JonahMatthes]

Agreed! I planned on moving the 2nd sub to the Sonos Beam in our bedroom, but after making this video, I don't think I want to.

[@enzodragon0]

I feel like the first question you should ask yourself is..."can I afford a second sub 🤔"

[@JonahMatthes]

Haha that’s true.

[@MrJapie234]

Incant afford one

[@richarnold1224]

second question would be what kind of system you could build for $2200 bucks

[@matt-f1c]

Can you afford not too !!!!!:-)

[@brunojr9]

u could buy a used one if u wnat to go for two, even though I would buy a single new one

[@Adesico87]

Whoa whoa whoa!!! You’re able to add multiple subs to the arc soundbar?! No flipping way. I was window shopping at Nebraska furniture mart tonight, wasn’t even looking at sound bar systems until I overheard a salesman showing off the Arc- I was immediately hooked. Now I’m even more interested after seeing this video

[@wiardengeman]

I have updated my Sonos system (ARC+ 2 One-SL and 1 sub gen3) and added a second sub. The Sonos sub brings a great update to the whole listening experience. I did notice that the sub is somewhat directional. You always notice where the sub is in the room. By adding the second sub, this phenomenon has completely disappeared, and I experience a more homogeneous baseline.

[@philippeaboussouan2361]

That’s why lage setup like in cinema theater they used 3 X 18” subs on each sides (that’s what they use at my local cinema here in Montreal, QC)

[@johnrhodes3406]

I just got a second sub yesterday, it sounds so good!! Seems like it smoothed out the bass alot and fills the entire room now. Doesnt feel louder, just better

[@gpnieto8645]

Hi thanks for your continued sonos support. This coming October 2022, I would have enough budget to purchase the Sonos Sub(gen3). I already have the arc and two oneSL. Stay safe and healthy!

[@brunobibou7807]

Hi Jonah, Happy new year from France. I will be moving in 2021 from a house with no neighbors to a flat with neighbors. I have today a 7.1 HC system, but our new living room, the WAF and the increasing quality of the soundbars leads me to a soundbar in the new flat. Thank you dor your soundbars reviews and your advice are welcome. As Sonos did it, I hope Sennheiser or LG will improve their soundbars so I can buy in september a great system. And I love your cats, there are very cute.

[@paul9387]

You really got me on that cable lol 👍 liked!

[@VictorFoote01]

Loving the quality of this video. Did you get a new camera? Keep up the amazing work Jonah!

[@JonahMatthes]

Indeed I did! Thanks for noticing!

[@jamesrose298]

I bought 2 gen 3s.. hey it’s only money and the sound is fantastic!!!

[@dereksnow2144]

Great, thorough analysis as always. One sub is definitely enough for my current space, but in thinking about renovating my movie room, this is valuable info! Thanks, Jonah!

[@admstudios7]

Hope they make a 9.2.4 system i love the sound of Sonos 💪👌

[@clintgolub1751]

Took me years, but I finally got a second Play 5 for the rear channels and it’s ABSOLUTELY INSANE. They’re relatively easy to wall mount, then dial in through the True Tune on the app. I honestly don’t see the need for a second Sonos Sub with how rich the Play 5’s are. The first one I received shocked me with how large it actually is, but after hearing their range, it makes sense why.

[@johntrussell7228]

Once you go dual sub you never go back. It really is an amazing difference.

[@ZND2022]

Couldn’t agree more! I can’t go back to a single sub!

[@constitutionalconservative67]

I am absolutely blown away with my SONOS system so far minus the extra sub. But I do plan to add it in the near future. System is really incredible and sounds amazing when used for watching movies. Music is also better than other average systems however, as you said many streaming services don't offer premium sound options.

[@AdamsBrew78]

Just ordered my first Sonos set with the ERA 300s .. any idea if you can pair a Sonos sub with just the 300s and no sound bar? Mainly interested in music, so 300s seemed an ideal starter

[@prtbone78]

Im new to sonos. But i believe yes ... pair to a room not to the room with the arc ​@@AdamsBrew78

[@RayHodge]

My friend has this set up with 2 subs, all I have to say is WHOA!!!!! it's truly a movie feel for real!!

[@breadb4meat]

Dude lmao that Ethernet joke had me going you said it so seriously too

[@garretts431]

If Sonos could ever match just a basic SVS subwoofer - id go for sonos in a heartbeat.

[@zachsharpe6443]

They do, I have Rythmik and Hsu subs. The Sonos blew me away with how punchy the bass is for how small it is. Looks are deceiving, the dual subs inside was an ingenious design I’ve only seen from SVS before. The Sonos setup is worth it

[@zachsharpe6443]

The SVS PB12-Ultra/2 is the subwoofer I am referencing the Sonos sub to be similar to in design with the dual subs facing each other, obviously not as much output but the design itself has merit

[@BTheInstaller]

I almost shat my pants when you said the thing about the sub. I was like "well shit, either I'm wrong or he is" good video' dude! Make True Play for Android Sonos.

[@jamesrose298]

Android sucks Sonos won’t waste their time on the crackhead version of cell phones😂🤣

[@castlelosthomeautomation]

The issue is not Android. The issue with Android is, that there are so many phones out there and the quality of their microphones vary so much, that it's near impossible to gauge the sound consistently. The idea of using iPhone and iPads (and not even all of them) is, that the microphone in these is a known quantity. The same goes for the microphones in their own speakers, like the Move and Roam. That's why they haven't made an app for Android.

[@Aronsson007]

@@jamesrose298 you're clearly diluded

[@mp211204]

They are effing amazing! I just added a sub to the playbar and two play 5s and it's the best stereo I've had by far

[@chriss881000]

Haha, then u never had a regular stereo system. This subs are bunch of crap and not worth half the price

[@mp211204]

@@chriss881000 well if you can't afford them then ya they are crap lol

[@chriss881000]

@@mp211204 i cant afford them? 😅 my system cost about 20.000$ .. the price is not important, but this sub are way to expensive. And here they cost about 650$

[@chriss881000]

@Max Jns 20k system is a waste?😂 why im i even talking to u. The guy who supports sonos eqm. U know my dumb little friend, bowers and wilkins with parasound amplifiers is not cheap. Logitech?🤣🤣

[@johnnyhernandez8415]

I have a 13 channel denon receiver for definity tec towers with ceiling speakers and definity center is amazing and very expensive that set up is in the family room upstairs i have another living room and have the sonos arc 2 one sl and two subs and it sound almost the same so yea its not crap but my denon can be easily upgraded since its a traditional setup love them both but sonos is cleaner and sounds as great

[@bryansteven83]

I've had dual subs since the update basically & couldn't (wouldn't) go back to a single. I do understand the cost though. Perhaps wait for another sale like they had on BF.

[@tumunamegabe1968]

Hey, I just got the arc, sub gen3 and two Sonos one I used them as surround speakers. Would you recommend me to go for a second sub. We generally watch movies and music. Thanks

[@joedav02]

“Setting up is very simple” that was very funny.

[@TheCdM1981]

I only appreciate humor when it’s humorous. 😊

[@cdcoomer]

I'm liking these videos. I'd love to see a video of how you can connect the Sonos in-ceiling speakers for audio to an A/V receiver with 7.2 channel without having two separate systems.

[@bpet2237]

Ouch my neck (how high your tv is mounted lol)

[@scottlowell493]

Maybe he watches tilted back on a sit-up bench.

[@electechchannel3739]

Even worse is the dangling cables

[@fonkenful]

My pet peeve for years now; “designers” should be forced to live with the systems for at least 6 months, and pay for the chiropractic therapy almost certainly required from extended watching at such a high “angle of attack”. I’ll be helping my son set up a 75” Sony, and Arc sound bar within the next few weeks when his home reno is ready. The living room has a 9ft ceiling, and prime viewing location is just over 10ft; but they insisted on mounting TV above a 42” high fireplace mantle, which not only places the Arc’s horizontal acoustic centre approx 4ft high, but the screen’s centre another 24+” above that. Great if you’re 7ft tall, or watch standing up, but unless you have reclining seating, the neck strain will be wearying when you’re binging a season on Yellowstone, or Emily in Paris.😉 And yes, when accurately dialed in, multiple subs almost always gives better overall room distribution.

[@ĪĪMizumiĪĪ]

People who have a tv that high up just don't seem to know how to watch tv, it's not ideal.

[@neville78]

Is it worth getting the sub? I went from a middle of the pack Samsung bar with a sub, I’m happy with the bass, but i can tell it’s missing the “umph” I have a 100 bucks off so I’m thinking about getting it

[@cheongjunkai1758]

I literally stun when I heard the joke about connecting 2 sonos sub with an ethernet cable haha Love the humour

[@06dame27]

This option is what brought me to try Sonos. No regrets.

[@J-DogRuhn]

Got the 5.2.2 config and am really happy with it. If you got the money, buy this!

[@MonkeyDude1999]

I love your videos! Have you heard of the sennheiser ambeo soundbar? You’ve done a massive soundbars review and I was surprised that you didn’t include the best soundbar in the world.

[@JonahMatthes]

Thank you very much! And I definitely have heard of it. I didn’t include it because it was a little too far outside the price range for that video. I will be doing a video on it eventually!

[@GOLFADDICT65]

i have the dual subs and love it with the ARC....am thinking of adding the Sonos 5's as rears.....currently have the ONE SL's......great sound

[@monroethegreat7539]

Add the Play 5s you will love them

[@castlelosthomeautomation]

Depending on the size of the room, second hand Play:3s may also be a great option.

[@richstanway7078]

Nice 😂 I'm still struggling to even connect my Sub Gen 3 😂 got a static ip now hopefully the 20th plus attempt will work. Almost to the point of sending the fkin thing back.

[@TravionMusic]

Peter Pee is amazing, follow his true play guide too. Makes a night and day different

[@TravionMusic]

@David Mander why are you on every channel dissing Sonos products, just don’t watch any videos

[@relevantinformation6655]

I do have a couple of Sonos’s subs on 2 room-sets of Sonos’s in the same room. I run two 5s on one “room” and a sound bar on the second set. Sound great with the 5s. Wish they had additional tweeters for those of are missing upper level range of hearing (sitting in jet helicopters for too long)

[@gaganchauhan4939]

What should be the minimum size of the room using two sub and two surround sound speakers?

[@flow685]

Definitely reminds me of the Nakimachi set up with two subs. I gotta be honest I have both Nakimachi subs on left and right side of the room. Since the Nakimachi is so powerful and overpowering it works out perfectly in my small living room. Jonah Mathis is a fantastic reviewer of Sonos.

[@2629braves]

I returned the Nakamichi yesterday. Bass was great but couldn't make the surround fit my living room

[@flow685]

@@2629bravesthat’s to bad and I would not trade the Nakimachi in for for anything. I like the diversity of the speakers and controller to zero the sound in. It’s fun to mess around the different ways you can work the Nakimachi system. Sonos does look bougie but I wanted more movie theatre 360 surround sound. Sonos had a lot of speakers but none dedicated to the rear or sides. Good luck to you and I hope whichever one you picked fit your living room space.

[@prtbone78]

​@@flow685what nakamichi did you go with. I think I should have went that route as wel

[@flow685]

@@prtbone78 9.2.4 the first one before the updated all black one. The new Dragon is to much for my living small living room. I like it when my girls can hear things around their back during a movie. It makes them all freak out! 🤣

[@prtbone78]

@@flow685 oh ok..... lol. That's funny. I got the arc era 100s n gen 3 sub got open box for 640 best buy. Buy got off sonos student discount 620 so gonna see how both sound then figure to keep or not. But the nakamichi was my 1st pick like 2 yrs ago but idk why went sonos. I have 13 yr old bose. Sounds amazing still but the wires. My lady hates it lol happy wife happy life I could have went anything wireless. But couldn't test nakamichi anywhere. She heard the sonos so went for it

[@POLLITOU2B]

Who else hit that like button when he said this? 1:22

[@vtr1200]

I have a yamaha stereo amplifier with 2 B&W speakers in the saloon, I was hoping to connect this sub to it. But it probably has no sub line to connect to the amplifier. I can easily connect my amplifier to my desktop, would the sonos sub gen 3 be able to connect and play that way?

[@msp5616]

I got my 2nd sub this week and your review is spot on, movies are amazing but music no real benefit at least not what I've listened to. Main difference to me at least is the warmth and ease of the bass and no distinct point where the sub is positioned. Very good review thank you

[@monroethegreat7539]

I just ordered my 2nd Sub, I have a existing Sub , A Playbar and 2 play 5s, I hope the 2nd Sub wont be overkill for my apartment.

[@poof3192]

I just set up my second sub. Noticeable difference in music but the biggest difference is with movies for sure.

[@monroethegreat7539]

@@poof3192 Nice my 2nd Sub comes tomorrow i can't wait🤞

[@bbqboy175]

@@monroethegreat7539 you should have purchased an Arc before a second sub IMO

[@monroethegreat7539]

@@bbqboy175 I Actually gave in and picked up the Arc, The Arc Sounds good but am not blown away like I thought i would be, I thought the Arc would Sound much better then the Playbar but it's just a slight difference nothing super noticeable

[@LereimGames]

Thinking about getting a better surround kit with Dolby Atmos kind of feeling. I'm gonna buy Arc to have wall mounted under my wall mounted 65" QLED800 TV, two of either Sonos era 100 or 300 in the back wall mounted, but still unsure what to go for, and 2x sonos subs on each side of the TV bench. I just don't know if it's worth going for 2 subs to start with or if I should choose either Era 100 or 300 in the back. I already have one Era 100 though, but that's gonna stay in my bedroom. I might just go for 2x era 100 as they take less space, one arc soundbar under the tv and one sub to begin with. And then concidering buying another sub later on :)

[@mrgold3591]

I would go for the Arc, 1 Gen 3 sub, and Era 300 as rear surrounds as my first choice. The single sub is perfect for a small/med rooms. The dual sub works best in large to extra large rooms or open floor plan. The Arc+Era 300 will give you the best combo for Atmos audio content. You might be missing out on full Atmos with just the Era 100.

[@LereimGames]

@@mrgold3591 You still have the Arc which supports Dolby Atmos. You will still grt the egfect kinda, but less. I think I will go for a single sub 3 gen. Not dual. Arc and 2 of the Era 100 in the back.

[@mrgold3591]

@@LereimGames I have an Arc, dual subs, and Fives in main TV room. I have the Beam Gen 2, Gen 3 sub, and One SLs in my Office. Not a lot of Atmos out there yet (about 30% of what I watch), my Xfinity cable only does Dolby 5.1, and I don't listen to Atmos music. You will be 99.9% fine with the Arc, sub, Era 100 if your streaming/music mix is about the same.

[@prtbone78]

​@@mrgold3591yes thays what I went with. Since not much atmos plus arc does atmos so atleast have some effect. I will go woth the 300s asap though I'll put my 100s in front as stereo 300s for surrounds 2 subs. Then save for 300 for front as well then im good haha

[@Jim_in_AR]

Is its lack of DTS a factor, if my Blu-ray player has it? Is DTS in anything other than discs?

[@creieru]

The cat is adorable. Good information. Thanks

[@louisd95714]

This appears to be a killer system! How would you compare this system to the Nakamichi two sub system, and just as important, which system does your cats prefer? :)

[@gggkkkttt3]

I would love to add another sub. No brainier for who wants theater effect. 😀

[@TravionMusic]

Hey Jonah you can now adjust the height audio for the atmos speakers on the Arc. Can you do a video on this please??

[@castlelosthomeautomation]

Our living room is rather large. So much so, that a pair of Sonos One or Ikea Symfonisk speakers not would have been sufficient as surrounds. So we're using Sonos Play:3s as surrounds. It's unfortunate, that these have been discontinued. There really is a gap between Ones and Fives, that these do fill. At least the Play:3 have S2 support, so there's that. And they can be picked up for decent money second hand. I've been waiting a few months to pull the trigger on upgrading the front, going from a Playbar to the Arc, adding the HDFury Arcana (TV is arc only and I also have a Hue Sync Box that won't pass eARC either), upgrading our Bluray player to a 4K capable one with eARC support and last but not least adding a second sub. But all of that should happen, over the next month. And I agree: Peter Pee is a great source for in depth Sonos analysis. He takes it to a whole different level. Been following him ever since I got into Sonos.

[@libinpaul1667]

if i have wired sound system with an AV reciever....will watching a netflix movie which has dolby atmos format on tv have its effects?

[@gabrielsandre7087]

YT just recommended me one vídeo of this channel , thank Goh

[@rsheepwash]

Now if they would only allow you to add two more Sonos Ones so you can go 7.2.2

[@johannjohann6523]

Sonus probably has the best wireless system in surround sound setups/speakers. I probably would drop a few bucks for a decentAUX type micrphone to plug into your phone. You can get them for $25 and greatly exceeds anything your mic does in your phone.

[@TheoLonghair]

In metric meters, where does a room become large enough for a dual sonos sub gen 3? Where is the threshold rougly? I have a living room + kitchen as one open space.

[@mrgold3591]

I have Beam+Gen 3 Sub+One SLs in my office space of 4 meter by 6.5 meters and the single sub is more than enough. I have a larger great room with Family room, dinning room, and kitchen at 6 meters wide by 13 meters long. Dual subs fill that space perfectly (both subs on far end of room on either side of Arc).

[@aransingh9140]

Hi do you think in a small lounge a Sonos Arc & 1 Sub Gen 3 would be too much?

[@78Buju]

How much is a 5.2.2 set up gonna cost? Then is it the best surround sound system set up at that price?

[@JonahMatthes]

Can't believe I didn't include this in the video. The overall cost is going to be around $2,500 USD. It's definitely not the "best surround sound system" at this price, but for wireless, multiroom casting, and ease of use/setup, it's likely the best.

[@RQuinton79]

Important to note is Sonos systems are independent components, so $2500 can be done over time and to ones liking, you may not need every component, unlike other sound bars where it is all or nothing.

[@brianswails7276]

I’m using play 5 for my rear speakers ..if you could would you put your sub in the front instead of the back?

[@tumunamegabe1968]

Hi guys, since I added my second sub yesterday I realized the bass of my existing sub went down low but It was strong and deep bass before I added a second one. Do you guys think this might be because of positioning, bass/ EQ, tv music levels. The are both sub gen3s in a big room. One good thing is u can't really tell where the bass is coming from is full filling the room. Anyone for help thanks

[@patrickpicansoiv9938]

I’m looking to buy a Sonos system, but majority of the time it will be used to play music, should I buy the Arc system or build one with Sonos ?

[@juanvalera7272]

If its only for music go for two play 5 for the same price,and in the end you want movies go for the arc

[@philippeaboussouan2361]

@@juanvalera7272 if I want it for 50% music, 40% normal tv station and 10% movies what should I get (ive got a bigger system in the basement)❓

[@christopherpark197]

Will you be reviewing the Enclave Audio Cinehome Pro anytime soon? Curios to know your thoughts on the WiSA technology. Thanks

[@r0me063]

How would the bass response be if you kept one subwoofer upright and laid the other one flat

[@richardnickell4116]

Great review. I would like to add a 2nd sub but I don't think my room would accommodate it.

[@philj212]

what's the size of your room?

[@hotfoodexpress4586]

Amazing sound. Thanks for sharing

[@marjansemema1855]

Hallo, plz i have a aske? I want to made to funktion 2 soundbar i have too adapter optical but not work and why? Ans wat i do to make this working 2 sondbar Thnx

[@jeffleigh3747]

So informative. Thank you 🙏

[@DDD-xx4mg]

Do you think the dual sub will be overkill for CoD MW2. Currently have the beam, sub and pair of one sls in DD 5.1 and sounds amazing on PC with the speakers all being so close around me

[@Fhdhhshhsow]

Im a music person and love bass like if you have a 12 inch in the trunk without rattle is it good for music???

[@Usman012813]

Hey Jonah, love your content. Would you consider grabbing the Sennheiser AMBEO for review? I'm sure you have heard about it to this point and its supposedly does a good job as an all in one system. Would love to hear a detailed review from you on it. Keep up the great work!

[@JonahMatthes]

I've received a ton of requests to do a review on the Sennheiser AMBEO! Just need to find the right time to do a review on it as I have a ton of other videos planned out. I will get to it!

[@Usman012813]

@@JonahMatthes thanks for the update, and looking forward to the rest of your vids!

[@JayPatrol]

I just got the bose smart ultra soundbar and the bass module 700 It sounds waaayyy better than the arc did for me. But thats just me

[@mrgold3591]

Did you just have the Arc or Arc+sub+surrounds? I've been happy with my Arc, dual subs, and Fives.

[@harmrhebergen]

Will the kids be able to sleep upstairs? We'll be moving to a much bigger house end of summer and I'm thinking of adding an extra Sub. Slightly worried though about their nights rest.. 😅

[@michaelandrewmartins3897]

What if I place one sub behind my couch and against the wall and the second sub on the opposite corner of my living room inside the closet?

[@michaelandrewmartins3897]

Should that be an interesting set up? I’ll try.

[@MrRobaloAmigo]

The reason why you hear where the bass is coming from is not just because of one subwoofer instead of two like you said, but because it reproduces too high frequencies. In more advanced soundbars systems, such as Denon Heos (Heos Bar/DHT-S716 + Subwoofer) or Harman Kardon Citation (Citation Bar + Sub), you can set a low-pass filter which limits frequencies the subwoofer will reproduce (it should be no more than about 40-50Hz, while almost every subwoofer from soundbars plays sounds up to about 100Hz, probably also in this Sonos system - it means it's just waste of money, it's not real quality bass). Please check soudbars I've listed above.

[@douglascarriere6451]

Sonos products all have low pass for subs and high pass for speakers.

[@MrRobaloAmigo]

@@douglascarriere6451 Probably they added it in meanwhile. Nice to know, thanks.

[@douglascarriere6451]

@@MrRobaloAmigo they are definitely overpriced but still a great company that listens and evolves. Plus guaranteed service on all products even if they stop making them is nice

[@claudiugeorge5445]

Hi,please tell me, wich subwoofer goes lower/deeper between this sonos and jbl 3.1 / 9.1 ?

[@dwdrum11]

Depends on the room and where you place it....

[@claudiugeorge5445]

@@dwdrum11 let's say i place both side by side,in living,wich between jbl 3.1/9.1 or this sonos sub can hit lower, deeper frequency?

[@castlelosthomeautomation]

@@claudiugeorge5445 Peter Pee did a frequency analysis on the Sonos Sub. That might be worth watching.

[@BugE4]

Would you be ok with doing another review on the Arcana again now after using it for a little while?

[@NBADVEnduro]

Hey Jonah, I seen you have a cat.. My 2 Bengal cats are very curious and also have claws. Can the cats get to the sub speakers and rip them up or is there a screen is front of them?

[@rifleman542]

lmfao, you got me for a few seconds there at 1:11, truly genius

[@yunloy]

I got the sonos arc with sub and also a 11.1 traditional setup, I find the lower frequencies always come from wherever the speakers are located LoL. I don't know how ppl say they can locate when the lower frequencies are coming from the sub...

[@tiagomalabares]

Hi Jonah, great video. My current system is an Arc / sub gen3 / one sl’s as surrounds with a LG OLED C1 65”. I am thinking in a upgrade, add a second sub or replace the one sl’s for fives as surrounds. Which option do you think will be better for my system? Second sub or fives as surrounds? I use most for movies and tv series.

[@Joseph-sy8ep]

I would say fives as surround is over kill, go for dual sub

[@mrgold3591]

Sonos de-tunes the rear speakers in rear surround duties with the sub. The Fives will not perform to its full frequency range compared to stand alone or stereo pair configuration. The Arc/Beam home theater set-up takes those low bass frequencies and sends them mostly to the sub. The Fives will be louder compared to the One SLs or even the Era 300. Sonos even turn off the Era 300 center speaker when they are used in surround sound home theater set-up.

[@prtbone78]

So set the rears as stereo and not surround? ​@@mrgold3591

[@kevindewilde7970]

What phase do u use and why?

[@bmac9949]

Hi Jonah, question for you... how do your cats co-exist with your Sonos equipment? I've had people tell me a cat would likely scratch the glossy finish on the subs and the fabric exterior of the Beam. Have you experienced anything like this?

[@JonahMatthes]

They actually don't bother the subs at all. They'll jump on them, but they never scratch or hang around them for long. They don't mess with the Sonos Arc much because it's on the mantle, but we are very consistent with yelling at them to get down if they do jump up to the mantle. When I had the Samsung HW-Q950T (cloth covering over front and top), they did seem more attracted to it, but we were able to keep them away enough from damaging it. Depends on how stubborn the cats are as to if they'll listen or not.

[@jb7753]

Definitely confirmed my thoughts and reasons for getting another sub just for balance. Position can be tricky though. I've heard that the arc, 2 ones and a sub can give you 11.1.2 sound. But here you've said 5.1.2 ??

[@tumunamegabe1968]

Same question here man, I'm looking to get a second sub just to see that difference

[@alexgarcia8365]

What is 11.1.2 and 5.1.2? I know 5.1 is 5 speakers (in a particular order) and .1 base (1 base)

[@alexgarcia8365]

I don’t under stand the 0.0.2 and the 11.0(1)

[@jb7753]

@@alexgarcia8365 hi Alex, as you have the right order of the x.y.z with x being number of speakers, y bring bass, z is atmos speakers so generally speakers installed in ceilings or in the case of some soundbars and some rear speakers, upwards firing speakers. Generally the 5 refers to front left, middle, front right and 2 rears. Some systems will add 2 more speakers at te rear and 4 more along the side LS if a roo. To get 11 speakers. So if someone has 11.2.4 this would be 11 speakers, 2 subs and 4 atmos (ceiling speakers).I hope that make sense. Cheers

[@alexgarcia8365]

@@jb7753 okay I was a bit confused while reading this but the last sentence made sentences. The last digits 0.0.? Is the number of speaking that are in the ceiling or high firing speakers

[@philippeaboussouan2361]

if I want it for 50% music, 40% normal tv station and 10% movies what should I get (ive got a bigger system in the basement)❓

[@wmbriggz]

has your opinion chan ged now that all the streaming serves movies ahave improved to a minimum 5.1

[@monroethegreat7539]

I have 2 Play 5s a Playbar and a sub, I was not impressed with the Arc so i returned it, But do you think my setup will be overkill if i add another Sub?

[@SkinPain]

I have the same setup you got, and I have cathedral ceilings, dude..... get the second sub. i experimented with my bedroom sub when the update was released, I have already ordered mine. freaking awesome

[@monroethegreat7539]

@@SkinPain Nice then maybe i will lol, Do you have the second sub in the same room?

[@SkinPain]

@@monroethegreat7539 I had a second sub I was already using upstairs in my bedroom so when the software update came, I moved it downstairs and added it to my 2 play 5, a play base and a sub, doubling the sub on the opposite ends of the room against the wall, and it’s amazing

[@monroethegreat7539]

@@SkinPain Nice well trying to get my hands on another Sub now lol

[@NimaIzKing]

Really good video Jonah - genuinely! Keep up the good work bro!

[@JonahMatthes]

Thank you 🙏

[@heriport6654]

after owning two jbl 1000 I laughed when I bought the sonos 5 and the sub. Was like oh cute, giving me tickles.

[@optex5951]

Great video, the Sonos beam 2, a sub basically makes no difference,

[@ronedwards8239]

Not always. My Bose 650 will accommodate 2 subs in a firmware update. I found after running the Adapt IQ. It actually reduced the bass response running to subs. The proper placement is on the right or left of your TV stand, but not directly in the corner. 2 or 3 feet from the corner gives a natural response.

[@l0rdstrontium]

I nearly turned this off when you mentioned the long ethernet cabe that you need to connect the 2 subs...

[@Tris444_]

This is exactly what I was looking for.

[@m4yh3m121]

Great video but why would you recommend having an Arc over a playbar?

[@m4yh3m121]

I actually kept the playbar and bought an arc, forgot about this comment lol

[@rampyrs]

Thanks for the detailed review as always! Avengers Infinity War! OMG my fav movie can't wait to see it with DOLBY ATMOS setup!

[@OD117]

Can we add a sonos gen 3 + sub mini? Or in this "Dual" option sonos only allow the same product?

[@JonahMatthes]

I'm pretty sure it has to be the same product, I don't think you can mix and match with a Sub and Sub Mini.

[@mrgold3591]

One sub has to be a Gen 3 Sub and you can add another Gen 3 Sub or Gen 2 sub. No option to add a sub mini in a dual configuration as part of a soundbar configuration. Best option might be adding a sub mini and dual Fives to soundbar for more low end bass. The Fives can give you some pretty good bass compared to the Era 100/300, One SLs, or Symfonisk speakers.

[@costelonutu7767]

I can also connect 2 Subwoofer to samsung q 950t ?

[@BlairPurvis]

I really wish I could setup my 2x Play 5s, a sub and 3x Play 1s in a 5.1 setup. Do you have any tips on making that happen?

[@castlelosthomeautomation]

There is no point in doing that. The only reason why you would want 5.1 is for movies. Not so much for music. And while your Play:5s have an audio input, you will always have lip sync issues with the analog to digital conversion. That's the reason all of Sonos soundbars use an optical or digital input for sound from the TV. No conversion. To achieve 5.x.x with Sonos, there is no way around a soundbar.

[@Etiennegpeters]

7:12 if you ues the Spotify app on your tv it is way better

[@rickmaas1885]

2 subs is a bit much if you ask me.. I wish that sonos made it possible to create a 7.1 (or 7.2)system..to create a much better wide sound picture.. Specially with the playbase (I have) the frontal wide sound is not optimal.. As is the divide between front and surround speakers.. It is a big miss if you ask me. Let it be possible to connect e. g two play 1's or play 5's to a 5.1 system (playbase and two play 1's and a sub).

[@australianjourneyoflife6599]

Hi mate can I use sonos sub with sonos portable speaker?

[@ronaldmitchell2565]

I bought two Sonos arts to Sonos play fives four GEN three subs 2 A and a set of air at 300s because I was going to have a theater set in my bedroom as well as my living room… Pimp daddy all the way

[@juanvalera7272]

Jonah hope your fine,just got another sub😂😂 after several months after watching your video.how can i remove one sub for me just to test with one sub and then both subs,shal i have to unplug one of the subs?after that i have to run again the trueplay?thank you

[@DragonPupEclipse]

Dual Sonos Subs? Maybe next time. I just bought a Sono Sub last week and so far so good.

[@maleguy123]

Jonah, You mentioned the Sonos Five speakers. I was told by a Best Buy salesman that the Sonos Fives are not meant to be combined with a Sonos system with an Arc and a Sub. They said the Fives are meant to be used as standalone speakers. Could you please comment.

[@erikniemi1977]

Best Buy salesman are usually about as useful as reading a box yourself. If you want to use Fives as surrounds you can, and they do sound better than the smaller Ones. However if you aren't the type pf person to listen at higher volumes then you likely wouldn't get much benefit out of the fives as surrounds in movie/tv application. Duel subs are a similar idea, if you aren't a home theater enthusiast you won't get much out of them either. If you are like me and have a dedicated theater then pretty much all the sonos stuff is "subpar" and you'd want to go to dedicated separate amps and standalone speakers. I do enjoy the sonos stuff in smaller spaces however, I use them in my bedroom and they work well. Overpriced for what they offer in terms of sound quality but very simple to setup and use.

[@JonahMatthes]

Perfect explanation right here!

[@maleguy123]

@@erikniemi1977 Thanks for the information.

[@philippeaboussouan2361]

@@erikniemi1977 so if I want it for 50% music, 40% normal tv station and 10% movies what should I get (ive got a bigger system in the basement)❓

[@erikniemi1977]

@@philippeaboussouan2361 Well I guess it depends on what you want to spend on a second system and how loud you want that system to play regularly. In the sonos brand I believe the best "bang for the buck" is the sonos beam with a sub. If want surrounds in a smaller space get 2 of the Ones. If you are in a large room the Fives are a bit louder, but you would only like notice that difference while listening to music. The effects of most surround tv/movie mixes are generally subtle on purpose and the Ones handle them fine. If you are thinking a larger living room I'd get the Arc instead of the Beam. 2 subs are great but the extra cost is high for an effect that I've found only audiophiles tend to notice. On a side note Sony has a new system out that I believe could quite possibly sound better than the sonos, the HT-A9...you may want to check it out. Not cheap, but neither is a full sonos surround setup.