Between The Eers: The Morning After UCF

[@lionman6110]

Why doesn't anyone talk about the challenge of where we actually are in comparison to others with ability to pay players? I am not sure where we rank but my guess is that its bottom 25%. The "New World" has only made it much harder for us to compete; there are players on Blue Blood teams making more money than we can afford to pay our head coach (whomever that is). Surely WVU is used to doing more with less but with NIL that has exponentially increased in truth! Back to back 6-3 in Big12 in my opinion is huge accomplishment in this world. If Brown had Arch Manning and could afford a few other key pieces in the "Free Agency" market, do you think we could win more? I do! WVU fans need to temper their exceptions, except the reality of pay to play, and do everything we can to support doing more with less. I don't like it but this is the reality of college football now. To start over would only set us back even further and then with our budget, how do we catch up?

[@samuelestepp725]

The best QB we have is sitting on the bench

[@chicagobears654]

Agreed. Which is why we give Brown just ONE more year

[@hughglass9618]

@@chicagobears654 I don't think he has another year, and I think Nicco transfers anyways

[@chicagobears654]

@ Brown stays, Nicco most certainly will

[@RichardDearth]

I feel.play calling in the 2nd half cost us 2 or 3 games

[@thywillbedone1965]

I agree.

[@chicagobears654]

GG’s TO’s in those games was a huge part too. Resulting in a total of 24 pts total for the opposing in 2 of them 🤷‍♂️

[@caseybicanich6385]

Quit being so negative, Skylar. I enjoy your show.

[@Drumwolf62]

WVU will be just fine. Look at all the great players from the past. WVU will continue to move on.

[@lukebryant5017]

Yep, there used to be competent coaches that could develop players lol

[@chicagobears654]

@@lukebryant5017besides Rich Rod, who else did we really have….historically?

[@donjohnson6186]

I dont think we have a chance at Texas Tech, it would shock me if we win. We have talent but we find a way to lose games. 6yrs, where are we going?

[@Cepe_28]

In what world is 6 years not a an extremely long leash in this era of College football?

[@hughglass9618]

Exactly

[@Goeers206]

We have been in the Big 12 for over a decade, if we beat Texas Tech it will be the first time we have had two back to back 6-3 conference records sitting at tied for 3rd in the Big 12. If we win the bowl game we will be 3/4 in bowls under Brown. You all act like it's the end of the world to be having winning seasons. Since when has WVU been a powerhouse winning natties and always playing in the biggest games. We haven't been stop being unrealistic.

[@Cepe_28]

@@Goeers206 I would argue that the stats lie to you on his tenure. He’s currently 37-34 that’s 3 games above .500 we haven’t had a coach this poor performing since before Cignetti Sr. This season did not live up to the expectations that were set and sold by this coaching staff. Your argument depends on if we win Saturday and what happens when we don’t? What happens if we lose the bowl game? That’ll be Coach Browns 4th losing season in 6 years. Thats not the expectations of West Virginia. Even if we hit 7-6 that’s still not good enough for a 6 year head coach. We got to 6-3 by beating bottoms feeders of the conference again not good enough. Again that’s if we win and even then we’ll either be tied with 6 other teams for 3rd that’s not impressive. If we lose then we’re just into the middle to bottom of the Big 12 again not good enough.

[@Goeers206]

@Cepe_28 It's the same as you assuming we will lose both. Obviously, we have to see how it plays out, and the key word I used was "if". However, if it still stands, let's say he does get 8-5 with a bowl win and has two seasons back to back 6-3 in conference with back to back bowl wins, and he still gets fired, how can we be certain it will be better? For all we know we could be in the same boat we were when we fired Stewart when he had 9 wins every year and people cried saying it wasn't good enough and we got a lesser coach and a worse field product. The point is, there is no guarantee a new coach will be better than what Brown has done if he does finish 8-5. Is it really worth blowing multi millions on a buyout for something that may not be better instead of just letting him play out his last two years and see what happens. We go 6-7 sure I can see it, we win out I and alot of others feel it would just be wasted resources with revenue sharing just around the corner to fire after 9-4 and 8-5 with two bowl wins.

[@RichardDearth]

Michigan is going after a high school.qb and will pay him 10 million. How you compete with that

[@chicagobears654]

That’s a problem as if WV didn’t have enough problems recruiting unfortunately

[@hughglass9618]

WVU never has and never will be able to compete with the likes of Michigan regardless of NIL

[@chicagobears654]

@@hughglass9618 as far as recruiting goes I agree but we do have some talent if they could get it together

[@hughglass9618]

@@chicagobears654 I think the players are as fed up as the fans are

[@ShannonMiller-kc7hb]

What you said at the 20 minute mark probably is what will happen, unfortunately.

[@RichardDearth]

Just think.if we beat baylor and won out with byu and colorado losing where we could be

[@chicagobears654]

I’ve been as critical of Brown as much as the next fan, especially this year, but I’m all for giving Brown ONE more year for the simple fact that it’s finally Nicco’s team. I know GG is a fan favorite and I agree he plays hard but let’s get real, he’s NOT a QB. We have to look at what Nicco has brought to the table when either called in early in games or starting….dude just wins and stats don’t mean everything. Idc if GG”runs wild” giving up more than 30 points on crucial games due to ugly turnovers can be and is a difference maker. IMO Nicco has much better command of this team than GG and it’s not even close…..ONE more year with Nicco at the helm then let the chips fall where they may

[@Goeers206]

He has a winning record as a starter and has won his only bowl game against an 8-4 team, how can you say he isn't a QB?

[@chicagobears654]

@ he’s just not. He has flashes with some highlight reels but look at his record in big games…. First snap against Penn… 24 pts from his TO’s between Iowa state and KS…his situational skills at the position lacks big time. I do t dislike him I just never thought he’s a “starting” QB. Nicco’s situational play is light years above GGs and it’s not even close

[@Goeers206]

@chicagobears654 And look at how many busted routes that arnt on him lead to some of those turn overs and how many times he hit one of our recievers right in the numbers and they dropped the passes. He can't play every position and not evey down that didn't end up in yards or points was solely on him. Again, you don't win significantly more games as a starter in a P4 league if you can't play the position, we arnt talking about Alan Bowman

[@chicagobears654]

@@Goeers206 when defense shuts his run ability down and makes him throw, he can’t do it. Im nit trying to knock the guy, I do like the kid but he just can’t get it done in the air and a QB has to be able to do that. He’s a one read then run type of QB and that doesn’t cut it against real competition

[@chicagobears654]

@@Goeers206 I’m not sure of the busted routes but I’ve seen him make MANY bad decisions and not see wide open receivers (or miss them) due to his inability to look beyond the first read. He just does better on the move and he won’t always have that option Also those pics resulting into pts for the other team (that I noticed) were just ugly ints

[@RichardDearth]

Nebraska is 6 and 4

[@donjohnson6186]

Unfortunatly if we keep NB next year it makes me feel down about the program. Hopeless?

[@michaelmartin5869]

I remember a time when WV had enough pride in their fb program that they fired a coach that won 9 games 3 yrs in a row because they thought they could do better.

[@chicagobears654]

To be fair it was in the completely dismantled Big East let’s be real here…

[@Goeers206]

And look at what that got them, they got rid of someone doing well and got someone worse. The changing of the guard is clearly not always the answer. If we beat TT we will have back to back 6-3 conference records which is the best WVU has had since joining the Big 12. Why do you all think a rebuild will automatically be better, it could just as easily go worse than what we have with Brown.

[@ShannonMiller-kc7hb]

Next week in Lubbock would be a statement win for NB at this point. I personally dont see how we hold them under 40.

[@hughglass9618]

It'll be our 6th loss

[@wvufan2325]

Neal Brown football is not exciting! We need a new era with an exciting brand of football! If they keep him, they may lose more money because the fan base is off the climb.

[@RichardDearth]

Alabama got beat again lost 3

[@davidfriedline7525]

I thought they knocked the ball out of his hand , one play which I thought they recovered it ? We got one fumble recovery ! That second half accept for their first drive , which is why you defer the ball when you win the flip ! Scott play calls went right back to the last 3 games , didn't play CJ enough , he did get hurt in the first half but once again they let them back in the game for a minute ! SMH !

[@cheesenips9294]

It’s obvious the entire country has no respect for the big 12. 6-3 means nothing. Our conference champion might not even be ranked in the top 10 by the college football playoff committee.😂 quit reaching Neal

[@chicagobears654]

Only because 2 money backed conferences are eating up the rest of the league….some things never change

[@Goeers206]

Please good sir, since when has WVU ever been a flagship of college football, especially in the new era of NIL. We are the winningest program without a national title because we are a historic institution that has been playing football since the 1800s. You all just need to be realistic about our team and stop whining about the fact we are not and will never be the likes of Ohio State and other true blue bloods that have basically endless pockets.

[@Christopher-s2r]

They fired Bill Stewart who won 9 games every years. Get rid of him we not going to win nothing with Neal Brown. You might as well bite the bullet because next year is a rebuilt year.

[@Goeers206]

And what did we get after losing Stew? Ohh yeah that's right a worse coach. Why do you all always assume a changing of the guard is the answer? It even occur to you we could get someone worse? If we beat TT it will be the first time since joining the big 12 we have back to back 6-3 records and if we win the bowl we will be 3/4 in bowls under Brown. You just said we traded a coach that was winning for a lesser coach, who is to say it won't happen again.

[@cheesenips9294]

6-3 in a weak big 12 without Texas and Oklahoma does not impress me. It’s very obvious that the conference got much easier for middle of the Pac teams to compete with Texas and Oklahoma gone. That also impacts the recruiting of the big 12 some high-level players might not want to come because there isn’t schools like Texas and Oklahoma anymore. In my opinion, Neil Brown is just reaching for whatever he can at this point.

[@chicagobears654]

Still light years better than when the Big East got depleted 🤷‍♂️

[@hughglass9618]

Greene held us back for 2 years, I'll take Skylar Howard over him.

[@Goeers206]

Skylar Howard got us a 10 win season and bowl wins, you all are just delusional. All you do in every video is cry about wishing you could be a bandwagon fan why not just start rooting for Ohio State

[@hughglass9618]

@@Goeers206 mediocre is clearly fine with you, not with the majority of the fan base, keep defending this sub par staff.

[@Goeers206]

@hughglass9618 Winning seasons and bowl wins to most people doesn't meet the criteria of mediocre. Some of us are intelligent enough to know how hard it is for WVU to recruit and how they are crippled by finances due to being a land grant institution whose mission is to provide education to all walks of life rich or poor, which doesn't lead to deep pockets. You want WVU to be like the blue bloods by all means buddy, pony up 10 million bucks and donate it to the country roads trust so we can buy the best of the best and pay to win. Get a clue.

[@hughglass9618]

@@Goeers206 Then get out of the power 4, simple as that. If we want to be considered a power 4 team, then conference championships and playoffs simple as that. No reason we shouldn't be competing in the new weak Big 12. Bowl games are meaningless now and I'm sick of people complaining about money, just get in a conference we can compete in then.

[@Goeers206]

@hughglass9618 That's the issue we do compete. You all delusional fans just want us to dominate. Say what you want about the Big 12 it's a tough conference, and the vast majority of games this year have been decided by 7 points or less. It's not like we finish the bottom of the barrel year in and year out. Winning records are competing, and it's laughable you all portray being over .500 as somehow the new low standard. You all say bowls don't matter, yet if you knew anything, you would know they generate revenue for the university as well as the conference, which the conference gains are then distributed to the institutions. So yes, winning and being in bowls does matter. Again, get a clue.