Beugin Airshow 2018 crash du D.H.2

aéromodélisme

[@mostrosticator]

Am I the only one who thought this was a 'real' British WWI airplane? I'm glad only someone's wallet was hurt and not an actual human.

[@dirtrusty7228]

I thought it was until it started to spin the prop. That's when I realized that it was a large electric R/C. But yeah, Just the power system for something that large cost more than I want to spend. Large lipo batteries are insane $$

[@xzqzq]

Looked full-scale to me.

[@nesustrejo6509]

I feel like an idiot now

[@xzqzq]

Nesus Trejo Not. Just the builder's attention to detail was excellent.

[@Thomas_Maxine_Kingsbury]

I did too till I seen the French flag on the tail.

[@adamtaylor31]

Even an expensive RC crash sounds alright when narrated in very nice, smooth French.

[@heeder777]

Beautiful frame work with the sun showing through the wings. Nice model, great representation of the full scale aircraft, including its flight characteristics. Those were some brave young men in the early days of flight and more so flying into battle.

[@JSFGuy]

Needs to have RC in the title. Misleading.

[@Dios67]

I picked up on that after seeing that the pilot never moved. Then that announcer, lol... "oh, no no...."

[@rawnukles]

i had the sound down and I really thought it was dreal. The movement made me think wow those things are so sensitive they look like RC miniatures

[@WarblesOnALot]

G'day, Look closer, Einstein...; in the Clip Description it says, "Aeromodelsimile..." Or something like that, it was fairly obviously "Scale Aeromodelling...", but written in the language of the Frog-Eaters... Such is Life, Have a good one... ;-p Ciao !

[@JSFGuy]

@@WarblesOnALot So is that how you identify videos is go to the description or the title above? Still poorly written, RC is the identifier. Einstein mutch?

[@williamgeorges5494]

@@WarblesOnALot Merci for the quite elegant "frog eaters". Could you spell French properly please ? : aéromodèlisme. I AM French.

[@RockinRedRover]

Amazed anyone with a grasp of WW1 history, or aircraft, thought this was real. Esp as clearly says "aéromodélisme" just below the heading. Personally I commend the builder on taking on such a risky project, the real ones were tricky enough to fly, and contrary to the armchair experts or those "pilots" that can "fly" via video games, flying r-c aircraft in the flesh is rarely easy, certainly not scale models like these, in some ways it's harder than being up there yourself. Great vid, sad ending, thanks.

[@fbloggs]

Watch the rudder. He had full left rudder to try to tighten the turn while in a left bank and only just above the stall. That's called bottom rudder and it has killed an enormous number of pilots during the last two slow turns to a landing, including many, many flight instructors with thousands of hours of flying time.

[@shelbyseelbach9568]

LOL. You do realize this is an RC plane?

[@loddude5706]

@@shelbyseelbach9568 Makes little or no difference, wherever the 'pilot' was located, they became clumsy with the rudder inputs & stalled the port wing.

[@shelbyseelbach9568]

@@loddude5706 Pretty sure it was never going to kill this pilot. So, ya, it ABSOLUTELY makes a difference.

[@alwaysflying6540]

​@@shelbyseelbach9568he was trying to teach you idiot's something ffs

[@federicoparea2036]

​@@shelbyseelbach9568It might very well be an rc plane, but it still suffers the same tendendecis a real plane would.

[@jackoneil3933]

Well, that turned out to be exactly what looked like, a crash waiting to happen. It was, however, a stunning demonstration of early aircraft design combined with a fatal misapplication of aircraft controls. But to be fair to the aircraft design, there are few modern aircraft that could have survived such an outstanding example of "Pilot Error"

[@jackoneil3933]

@@SR-gs8zo Thanks, I just watched this again and noticed on takeoff the outer wing sections appear to have significant 'wash-in' rather then washout, effectively leaving the outer wing sections at a higher angle of incidence and attack, making the aircraft more susceptible to a wingtip stall. That being it looked like he was maintaining enough foward airspeed to generate enough lift to just about remain airborne if he hadn't cobbed in a lot of left rudder and right aileron. Basically, most certified aircraft would have done the same, and at even a higher forward airspeed and would have likely been fatal. The little contraption did pretty well considering the design and what the pilot did. I'd feel comfortable flying it, just not so foolishly.

[@chuckcawthon3370]

Firstly, I thought it was a real plane until after the crash... but I was watching the flight control inputs along with the apparent airspeed and I knew this wasn't going to end well.

[@dextermorgan9876]

My brother and I used to fly gliders, slope soaring. With good lift you could just hover or just slightly move at leisure. We always called that kind of lift a "kite flying day". After we got into power planes he seemed to think that a plane would still fly without moving forward to produce lift and he crashed more than one with that kind of hockey stop turn.

[@user-yw7zq7qv4s]

@@jackoneil3933 I think this is an optical illusion. In theboard part of the lower wing is cut out to afford the pliot some downaward vision. However there appears to be no differntail aileron in evidence. This is mandatory on such a subject. Furthermore I did not see any use of the rudder. Again, on an aircraft of this kind the use of rudder is mandatory. In the sequence the model enter an incipient spin at low level. You will see that as the pilot applies right aileron, the model yaws to the left. This is classic adverse yaw caused by the down going aileron entering higher pressure air than the upgoing aileron. Whilst builing, differntil aireron can be arranged to make the upgoing aileron travel further than the downgoing aileron. This is use on both full size and models frequently. In a turn rudder should be used in the same direction as aileron to acheive a balanced turn, In the event of an incipient spin beginning, the pilot must centre the ailerons and unload the elevator quickly, whilst applying opposite rudder. Then the nose must be lowered to increase airspeed. Many pilots have died and many models have crashed by not recognising, and dealing with this problem in time.

[@mr.knowitall6440]

It looked like possibly CG issues as well...

[@CliffHarveyRCPlanes]

What a huge shame, I didn't realise the scale until the recovery crew went in, I had a similar crash with my Dr1 but it survived to fly another day, on the other hand my DH2 wouldn't be so lucky, beautiful models to see in the air that recreate an era of brave young men and the stupidity of war, cheers

[@jopitomnik1396]

Superbe machine, vraiment dommage. Merci en tous cas pour les deux minutes d'évasion.

[@rescue270]

The original DH-2 was called "the spinning incinterator" by it's pilots because it would spin very easily and spin recovery was impossible for most. It was also prone to in-flight fires.

[@highway2run]

"Spinning incinerator " due to tendency of a engine cylinder removing itself from casing , sometimes slicing tail boom. Originally the DH2 had controls rigged to counter torque of engine . Later changed to if engine was off. Maj Hawker took one up and deliberately did spins to the relief of his pilots.

[@ricardocorbie6803]

@@highway2run you are right! He was a superior pilot!! Had he lived,, no telling how Much different things would’ve been! He was a superb leader, innovator!! Rest In Peace!!

[@dungracersintl]

I was convinced i misheard that. Thank you.

[@rescue270]

@@highway2run Lanoe Hawker figured out how to get the DH-2 out of a spin by somehow forcing it into an inverted position to recover. Normal spin recovery procedures did not work on the DH-2.

[@SuperDavec1]

Left rudder applied too aggressively stalled the left wing because of the low airspeed. You can see the aeroplane yaw left before the wing drop.

[@whawaii]

And he was applying right aileron, which aggravated it even more.

[@datkinson1980]

@@whawaii this

[@paulmichaelsmith3207]

Excellent call tho obviously a very unstable creature. Over correction is often such a factor in this mishaps.

[@paulmichaelsmith3207]

Yep, clearly.

[@paulmichaelsmith3207]

Must admit I didn't realize it was radio controlled till second look. Whoops!

[@josephinebennington7247]

🎵 🎶 “They go up, diddly up,up and they go down, diddly down, down”. 🎵 🎶. From Magnificent Men and their Flying Machines.

[@Plentisaki]

One of my favourite films of all time 👍

[@carsten4594]

Flown by Emilio Ponticcelli no doubt.

[@TheTeufelhunden68]

What a shame, such a beautiful model. On the upside, based on photos I have seen of WWI crashes, it's sad demise looked very authentic. I am sorry for your loss..

[@skysurferuk]

Stalled in. Looked unstable from the T.O., almost as if the CG was too far back. Always close to stalling...

[@rfloyd90]

You mean CG too far forward, tail heavy and unstable.

[@thephilpott2194]

@@rfloyd90 Bit late to the party, but...CoG too far back equals tail heavy

[@painting4850]

that was the frenchest reaction ever

[@keithevans7996]

Wow I thought that was a full sized plane!!!

[@JohnSmith-xl9bo]

knew that was coming just watching it...typical stall spin. Too slow Bud!

[@colinhutchinson9031]

I thought it's angle of climb from take off was too steep to be an actual full scale aircraft but otherwise it would have fooled me.

[@SupesMe]

It actually took me a minute to figure out it was a RC but since it crashed I’m glad it was . Thing is HUGE

[@whawaii]

LEFT Rudder and RIGHT Aileron at slow airspeeds? That's asking for trouble. The Rudder is way more effective at slow airspeeds than the Ailerons. The aileron input to the right made the left wing stall. Classic Stall Spin. Needs to learn about proper control inputs.

[@paulgoodwin3642]

Did the dwarf get injured in the crash. It's nice to see little people can have planes now. It did look a little windy for that plane.

[@williamcrane8236]

like many, clicked on to see what happened to a rarity. Soon as it took off I thought "MAN they overpowered that one" then realized it was RC. And then he went around flying it like it was a throw away arf, one mistake from, whoop there it is. Shame.

[@briancarno8837]

"that dwarf" as you call him was one of the bravest dwarfs that ever existed

[@Biggles-gm6tm]

Looked tail heavy to me, also horrendously under powered.

[@yvanchaine3223]

Like most of the airplane of that era.

[@CryhavocMike]

You need to learn the difference between trim... and tail heavy.

[@timn4481]

looked to have plenty of power actually. it was porpoising the whole time and it looked , to be honest, the the pilot didnt have a clue. i know it was RC. several times the left turns looked far too aggressive, and the wind was clearly blowing right to left, which made it worse. in the end it was going too slow and pulled too aggressively into the final left hand turn, porpoised upwards and tip stalled. the throttle control of the pilot was poor, evidenced by the brutally vertical take off, and then too slow in its second and third passes. it very well couldve been tail heavy. either way, the RC pilot's control was quite poor and didnt recognise the situation..he shouldve climbed under full throttle, trimmed out and taken his time to gain some control, then as soon as he did, take it away from the field and come in shallow and fast and landed it.

[@Biggles-gm6tm]

.....and you need to learn some social skills matey.

[@CryhavocMike]

No thanks but fuckyou very much dumb ass.

[@deekaxel8760]

Thanks god it was a radio controlled airplane. However it was a wonderful Aircraft. I thought it was an original.

[@davidcollinson5076]

Beautiful plane. Hope it’s mendable

[@mwsellox7751]

Dude hahaha I thought.... Hee death?... Well that's a relief.

[@SteamerEdge]

And the Pilot walked away unharmed from that one, that'' all that matters, fantastic scale model

[@christianbuczko1481]

It's an impressive RC model, looked abit unstable though, maybe too light and under powered as it was getting blown around alot in the light winds.

[@srcreeper02550]

in fact, the original DH.2 was just like that

[@FlyBoyMike1000]

Thought the take off was short. Thought it was a real plane. To bad for the crash but whoever built it did a great job. Very realistic!

[@maxmoritz5065]

Hahahaha this super chill music and the Moderator. I think he got some good France whine

[@KenSerpico5450]

What a terrible crash. May their souls RIP.

[@malcolmabram2957]

Despite the fact that the RAF puts targets on their wings, they have quite an illustrious history.

[@AlbatrosModelisme]

Triste fin du Dh 2 pour notre ami Luc d'Arcachon. Un avion magnifique et unique

[@Llboyngton]

Mais non , c’est pas la fin , il revole . Et mieux …

[@plane3613]

​@@Llboyngton Ça va le pilote ? J'ai pas vu qui c'était mais je pense qu'il est miraculé, il a eu un sacré choque quand-même...😢

[@DeereX748]

Looks like there was a fairly strong breeze (moving right to left in the video), and on his last turn into the wind, his ground speed had dropped (as well as his airspeed into the breeze); when he turned downwind, his effective airspeed dropped below stall. Certainly a stall spin, initiated when he turned downwind with an already marginal airspeed. I've flown quite a few large scale RC planes, they are twitchy to fly in wind because of all the wing area and relatively light wing loading. It was a beautiful R/C plane, the giveaway to me, at the beginning of the video, was the engine start. These plans had no automatic starter, they had to be hand propped to start.

[@ashleyfroud5015]

Never SKID the airplane. Tail outside the arc of the turn. See min.1:51 ! Right aileron compounded the problem by adding adverse yaw.

[@lawrencegenereux8567]

My old girlfriend was a comedian, and a helicopter wing-walker. She was very funny, a real cut-up.

[@gjmob]

Confucius say, woman who fly upside down in aircraft, bound to have crack up.

[@Frankestein01nl]

Ayy.. such a lovely model. Best of luck rebuilding it.

[@HughJarse1968]

Looks like the beginning of a spin to me

[@JZsBFF]

Agreed. Too slow, too little head wind, stall and... hupsakee, a flip over.

[@tewrgh]

How did this thing stay in the air for 100 seconds?

[@JZsBFF]

Air pressure difference and thrust? Or magic!

[@Tugela60]

How many people were killed in the crash?

[@hnt2u]

At exactly 1:54 you can see the mistake made by the pilot, a very common one made by many RC and General Aviation pilots alike. Cross controlling with rudder deflection into the turn and ailerons deflected away from the turn creating a skid condition that combined with a stall, lead to a tail spin.

[@waynemitchell1076]

Good to see that there were so many of those in the crowd who showed real concern for the RC pilot by rushing over to lend some RC first aid to him. I wonder if he survived. 😏

[@claudelannois8821]

Il n'y avait pas de pilote dans l'aéronef. ( modèle réduit ) .

[@waynemitchell1076]

@claudelannois8821 yes, I know. That's why I said rc (remote control) pilot. I was being sarcastic. I used emoji to show I wasn't being serious.

[@johnyted]

While my eyes were popping from the accident and my heart was pounding, with no one running to help, I heard the announcer say "Non... Non-non... et non!" looking like Charles Aznavour with the music playing. My brain went into knots "Is this how the French react to the death of a pilot??"

[@bubbazanetti3463]

Just after the voice said "it's a very nimble plane...". Yes, nimble with a little more speed.

[@yvonberlemont5223]

Il fallait en avoir une sacrée paire pour voler la dedans !. Chapeau . je parle bien sûr des véritables coucous de l'époque.

[@billywhizz6483]

Ooh la la! At least you have a box of spares for the next one 👍

[@randallisaeff1876]

That’s a heckuva way to “Begin the Beugin.” 🎶🎵

[@wileecohagen]

The last turn took him below flight speed and the plane stalled. It didn’t look very stable during the whole flight to me. Too much drag and not enough thrust to overcome the drag.

[@heeder777]

wileecohagen I think that it took the left wing into a stall. Once you start turning into the lower wing the higher wing increases in lift and the lower wing stalls. Then the right wing, in this case, has significant lift over the stalled left wing, Stall, spin, die. Even in large scale R/C models.

[@wileecohagen]

Heeder777, that’s what I was. Trying to say, but much less effectively. Thanks!

[@heeder777]

wileecohagen no problem my friend! Just my brain walking through the same process. I’m a pilot and a model pilot as well. During flight training it’s drilled into us about how to avoid this scenario.

[@danphillips3125]

Classic base-to-final stall spin. You can see how much rudder he was using. The bigger these models get, the more they fly (and crash) like real airplanes.

[@wileecohagen]

Thanks guys! I’ve been a life long enthusiast. My 8th grade science teacher was a saber pilot in Korea. He was shot down over North Korea where a family hid him until he could walk well enough to get himself across the border. But two broken legs meant he would never fly military aircraft again. He taught handful of us what amounted to ground school. But I never had the money to get my certificate. 50 years later I love all kinds of flight. Thanks for your input gentlemen, you’re never too old to learn!

[@apathyintheuk265]

And the band.... Played on.

[@MonthlyFails]

Hello duchateau hubert, would it possible to contact you regarding one of your videos i.e via mail? I would love to discuss a permission to use it if this is possible. Greetings!

[@rcwarbirdbuilder]

I figure that was coming with the speed being reduced and the turns getting tighter.

[@arthurarmour6134]

Worth noting at 1:56~58 full right aileron, but left rudder?! With modern radio control, it is foolish to not 'mix' rudder and aileron for slow aircraft.

[@TheDemon190]

I think your wrong he should learn to fly I never mix controls on fixed wing aircraft learn yo use the left stick

[@rossclements8874]

Go fly full scale sailplanes for a bit. I used to have the same mentality, until I started flying sailplanes. I got rid of the mixes and learnt to use the rudder, my flying in all areas has improved greatly!

[@jetaddicted]

The commenter says at 01:25: » this plane is from the debuts of combat aviation, the centering is hard, it easily goes into a spin (...) it killed many of it’s pilots but through time, we’ll get used, we’ll familiarize (...) » And then at 01:56: » it’s a nimble aircraft...attention oooooh no no and no! ....this is truly a pity and, you’ll forgive me the expression but: shit ». :D

[@johnmajane3731]

I see all kinds of crazy things stated here like the air is thinner over the wings. My observations as a flight instructor and a RC pilot. In slow flight you are always feeding in opposite aileron to keep the plane from over banking. As long as you are coordinated with your rudder nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately with models there is no input to the pilot to see if you are indeed coordinated. Second he was flying very slow as was evident by the nose up attitude, the need to feed in opposite aileron to maintain bank. The end result was he got to slow, he was skidding the turn and then it stalled. As soon as it started rolling he should have added opposite rudder, pitched down, neutralized the ailerons and added full power. At the height he was at a recover from an incipient spin was impossible and a beautiful model was destroyed.

[@Maverickf22flyer]

Ok..., what would I'd like to do now? Oh..., a leftward spin. Here we go...: right stick cross controls (roll input opposite to rudder input) and aft stick. OOps! I've forgot I'm only at 30 meters!

[@lapipesmoker3751]

Classic cross control spin. Thank God it was on RC.

[@janwilliams178]

Glad to know it was radio controlled and no pilot was injured.

[@tonyradmilovich3154]

A classic stall/spin departure from controlled flight. It doesn't matter the scale, physics are physics and once a plane reaches the critical angle of attack, it's gonna stall in.

[@EamonnSeoigh]

With a good wind, lots of rc pilots make the mistake of flying too slowly on a downwind. From a position on the ground, visually, pilots get fooled. With full deflection of controls things just get worse.

[@moler1964]

Uncoordinated turn. Stall. BOOM

[@bencesarosi7718]

In such cases, it doesn't really matter whether the turn is coordinated or not. Usually your inside wing will stall first, and voila, down you go...

[@josejuanascaniomacias4997]

Vamos a ver ...! Lo que pasó es normal.... El avión entra en perdida por falta de velocidad.

[@grahamtranter3616]

Do such models have a proper modelled engine (as opposed to a model engine - if you know what I mean)? It sounds sort of authentic as opposed to model like.

[@chercheurdor1944]

Manoeuvre qui ne pouvait mener qu'à cela..

[@YvanR0Y]

J'ai crié "trop lent, trop lent ! " mais il ne m'a pas entendu....

[@Llboyngton]

Il vole de nouveau , je l’ai mieux en main . 😂

[@johannesbluemink4581]

The take-off was after only 3 meters. That made me suspicious, but only at the end did I realize it was a RC model.

[@racketyjack7621]

Man, that scared the daylights out of me. I thought that was a real plane and pilot.

[@j3v167]

The camouflaged (red) Baron strikes again

[@Pablo668]

That's a shame. Lovely RC aircraft, and yes, it looked real.

[@jdlo56]

1:57 announcer 'Oooo NON NON NON!' why does the announcer sound like hes scatting at a poetry reading, with a jazz trumpet

[@1BlackSheep]

Nice model, He had his hands full from liftoff. Almost looks a little tail heavy but hard to say in that wind with that style plane.

[@zzodr]

What a shame. Such a beautiful model. That's a lot of work.

[@steveproctor1748]

That thing looked like it was barely flying to me.

[@DopravniPoradce]

I didn't realise it was a model until the very last shot and comments.

[@G56AG]

It would have passed for real except for the fact that its sitting at the end of the runway and the prop isn't turning, then it turns and takes off, so it was obviously an electric model, a very realistic model. If the prop was ticking over like the engine was idling it could have fooled me. More than likely the original WW1 airplane only had a magneto switch and no throttle and wouldn't be able to idle, just the very noisy off/full power mode typical of airplanes of that vintage.

[@direct335]

bsr moi qui lai construit je pleure on vas le reparer sur sur il et trop beau jai dit il et et pas il etait

[@ibeduse]

The model flew in waves, which means it was tail-heavy. The center of gravity was too far back. You can see exactly how the model tilts over the wing and can no longer be intercepted from the uncontrolled spiral flight. The model pilot should have recognized this.

[@aeromodeller1]

The DH 2 had a 9 cyl rotary engine.

[@saito125]

Seems to be too sensitive to controls or tail heavy. Also looks like a stuck rudder... the pilot was applying full opposite ailerons to compensate.

[@tectorama]

As with so many crashes.....lack of forward airspeed. They will soon rebuild it, it was very realistic looking.

[@ricardocorbie6803]

DH2 earned its reputation,, what’s old is new!!

[@dginia]

I wondered. The whole flight seemed unstable. Then, the tight turn. No side area to help with stability, in my amateur view.

[@direktorpresident]

Never try to turn at "Stall + 0" knots

[@1cmman]

Thank God it was a RC plane. At first I thought it was a real one. This crash would have been fatal to the pilot.

[@tonyradmilovich3154]

Sadly, it could have been saved had the pilot lowered the nose to re-establish a "best rate of speed" and left the aileron neutral. It looked like he might have had just enough altitude to recover, or at least put it on the ground right side up.

[@Albertius84]

my heart almost stop earlier......then I realize that when plane crashed, there's nobody crawl out from that plane.... I just wtf to myself :D

[@mtweiss01]

This kid clearly had zero knowledge of the massive adverse hidden in these old designs.

[@terrortorn]

The pilot wasn't seriously hurt in the crash but his "Eagle Eye © and Kung Fu Grip ©" needed repair.

[@raylawrence1]

With the amount of 'wash--in' on those wing and the cavalier piloting, the outcome was inevitable.

[@floydblue1783]

You could see that stall spin coming for a long time 🤔

[@KlingbergWingMkII]

The flight dynamics were "wrong" from the takeoff. Not enough mass against the aero forces.

[@DEeMONsworld]

Thanks to all the "experts" who love to pretend they were there and know everything about the crash.

[@TheV8nissan]

You're welcome, most of them are correct

[@davidgarvey2158]

Ok, needs RC in title, but it looked odd. The fuselage (bit that wasn't wings or engine) was too deep. Ok, I thought after figuring that this was just a model, maybe it was made deep enough to house the receiver and stuff - but then it becomes apparent (after the crash, with the recovery crew alongside) that it was actually fairly large, so why couldn't it have been made a replica and not a representation?

[@jahatton]

I love airshow demo's but this was clearly a model! I hate with passion the guy on the microphone who wouldn't shut his mouth with the flight demonstration! Then after the crash had the gall to continue blabering! The music was also not appreciated! Very sorry for the loss of such a beautiful model. 😞

[@RichardsModellingAdventures]

Stalled the crap out of it the end. It looks like a handful to fly

[@ferrarigirl666]

It took me 2seconds of flight to know it was RC... Plz put that in the title

[@normanundercroft7598]

That's a stall right there Ouch. 😮

[@jedi8810]

he just pushed it that little bit too much. She's forgiving but there is only so much an old girl can take.

[@safarieten]

Sheer poetry in motion...!!!!

[@lowridersmith9522]

4 mistakes found, can anyone guess what they are.?

[@AlsETypeResto]

Well that looked like an absolute nightmare to fly…😬

[@sangtsang7936]

This turn is too thin！It might help if you can speed it up immediately.😅

[@silentwings5032]

Incorrect center of gravity?

[@tungstenkid2271]

I could see it was a model in the first 10 seconds. Pilot error, turning while too slow=graveyard crash.

[@kragf1802]

Haha. I was searching to see if the pilot lived. I got a lot of relief when I saw the scale between the plane and the men cleaning it up.