Duck Was The Villain

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Splendid

Splendid

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@duece2758
@duece2758 6 ай бұрын
I think we all overlooked Ducks role in this situation. But I think we can all agree that both engines should be held accountable for their actions
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. It’s honestly a pretty mature story because both characters are in the wrong.
@mrsodor7106
@mrsodor7106 3 жыл бұрын
Diesel was not the imposter IT WAS DUCK
@GamerB2022LikesTugs
@GamerB2022LikesTugs 3 жыл бұрын
“I know what you’re thinking, ‘This is such a bold claim.” Honestly, I kinda understood idea before I clicked.
@jel4229
@jel4229 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Diesel was just faking being nice to the other engines to befriend them in his plan to wipe out steam engines on the island due to his oily tone, but looking at those first words in your perspective does make sense. It just depends the way you look at it.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 3 жыл бұрын
Another way to look at it is that both were in the wrong but because Duck had ‘A Close Shave’ to help win him points in his Controller’s eyes and because he has others to help his character since they know him better than they do with Diesel. Plus Diesel wasn’t as good as hiding his tracks as Duck did with his part in humiliating the new engine.
@the_autism_express
@the_autism_express 2 жыл бұрын
In my honest opinion, while duck was a bit boastful about his heritage, I feel like diesel's "flattery" of the big engines was just him buttering up the others and trying to get them on his side for what would eventually go down. Duck never told diesel to get the old trucks, but duck never corrected him until after his incident. The whole "duck correcting diesel" thing, to me at least, only makes sense in the UK dub, because diesel sounded like he was about to say "fat hat." So, to my conclusion, both parties were in the wrong, but you'll never be able to convince me that duck's runaway rescue was solely a coincidental act.
@comicfan1324
@comicfan1324 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair duck is kind of a hypocrite. I mean it’s fine for him to be proud and boastful, but the moment another engine is, that’s going to far? And if the events of this took place after dieselization had begun, I could understand why Duck would be a little hesitant to except the class of diesel that has likely sent hundreds of his brothers to the scrapyard. But as it stands Duck really has no reason to dislike Diesel.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@LMS5935
@LMS5935 3 жыл бұрын
Duck was rude to Boco when he first arrived at the sheds and was about to be rude to him until he mentioned Edward
@LMS5935
@LMS5935 3 жыл бұрын
Diesel and Daisy were both to real-life locomotive that replaced pannier tanks diesel shunters replace them on shunting duties while rail cars and multiple units replace them on Suburban and Branch line services
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 3 жыл бұрын
Duck does get suspicious of Diesel of his facade and in the next episode, Diesel reveals his true colours by spreading lies about Duck just like with other heroes suspicious of villains who hides their true colours until reveals them later on in other media.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
He only tells lies because of Duck’s actions
@steamfest5091
@steamfest5091 3 жыл бұрын
Actually in the UK this is what is said Diesel:your worthy fat- Duck:that's sir topham hat to you The US scripts ruin the story
@lisaandethanc4284
@lisaandethanc4284 3 жыл бұрын
I mean I grew up even though I am 14 and going to be 15 this year The point still stands that I grew up with the US dub of it this one Actually makes a lot more sense even though I am an American
@BottomOfTheBarrelProductions
@BottomOfTheBarrelProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Even so the other engines call him the fat controller behind his back us dub : Diesel showing more respect to the fat controller . Uk dub : Diesel copying the other engines humans learn by copying and Diesel is new it would also explain why he thinks he knows everything he heard it from other diesels
@mx9099
@mx9099 2 жыл бұрын
Like the saying goes - "evil isnt born, its made"
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 2 жыл бұрын
Wise words my friend.
@Himself_Over_There
@Himself_Over_There 3 жыл бұрын
DUCK IS NEVER EVIL!!!!!!
@craigdallingproductions4430
@craigdallingproductions4430 3 жыл бұрын
A duck Simp in he’s Natural H-
@imatrainperson1195
@imatrainperson1195 3 жыл бұрын
I find this painfully relatable to my experience in the community. Having to deal with people who do crap and then play the victim card and get away with it (you can think of who I’m talking about).
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that people can be a real jerk and then get sympathy points for whining.
@brightredmogul1912
@brightredmogul1912 3 жыл бұрын
Broke: Duck Was The Villain *WOKE:* Diesel claimed he knew everything and was "rrrrevoluuuutionary", so Duck let him "know everything" to teach him a lesson. If Diesel knew as much as he said he did, Duck wouldn't have needed to tell Diesel that the trucks were old EDIT: Then again, Duck did immediately hate Diesel even BEFORE he boasted about knowing everything sooo *please help me IDK what to think*
@GordonSnowMachine
@GordonSnowMachine 3 жыл бұрын
Bewoke: Both are bad
@iceprincealex8875
@iceprincealex8875 3 жыл бұрын
For shame duck for shame
@annabelleh8739
@annabelleh8739 3 жыл бұрын
Duck is no villain to me.
@alexisback7032
@alexisback7032 3 жыл бұрын
YOUR GETING BANND
@annabelleh8739
@annabelleh8739 3 жыл бұрын
NO I DON'T WANT TO
@alexisback7032
@alexisback7032 3 жыл бұрын
@@annabelleh8739 O
@theburpman8006
@theburpman8006 2 жыл бұрын
If all people are going to say how Duck predicted Diesel wrongly. I do admit in certain cases it was wrong. But Duck was worried about getting scraped if diesels arrived on the railway and Diesel did become too nice to Gordon, Henry and James where it looked like he is attempting to gain friends to do something devious. Duck doesn’t like Gordon, Henry and James as they were rude to him when he arrived on the island. He was worried Gordon, Henry and James would get Diesel to do something bad. Regarding of Duck takes charge, where the big engines bully Duck and Duck and Percy take revenge, the audience didn’t like it. But it was alright for Duck to treat a new engine badly and deserved to be treated like crap. Nobody can have things both ways in life. Gordon, Henry and James were hypocrites to treat engines badly and get offended when an engine refers them to bad names.
@duck4238
@duck4238 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I can't believe my favorite character is a hypocrite I'm truly heartbroken duck💔
@noahbacklund74
@noahbacklund74 2 жыл бұрын
He isn't and I have proof. he is a no nonsense engine and Diesel shouldn't have been so cocky. The 3 big engines are the real hypocrites because all they did before Duck arrive were boast tease, trick engines and went on strike as well. It was obvious they didn't want Duck to arrive because in the beginning of Duck Takes Charge they just didn't care if Percy needed help, plus when Duck was coming out of Knapford to pick up Coaches when he did absolutely nothing to them he gets covered in smoke by the 3 big engines and they just laughed until Duck and Percy got payback. Also Diesel didn't want to learn from Duck and Sir Topham Hatt so obviously Duck had to trick him. When u are a new engine, u have to listen to the veteran engines that actually care about u just like when Duck listened to Percy, he didn't boast to him because he listened.
@theburpman8006
@theburpman8006 2 жыл бұрын
If I was Sir Topham Hatt, I would not sent Diesel packing, as Duck did start the situation at first. But I would’ve reprimanded Duck as well as praise him for preventing the trucks. I would’ve had both Duck and Diesel shunt trucks in the yard for bullying each other.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a very good idea Thomas.
@theburpman8006
@theburpman8006 2 жыл бұрын
I think Percy was the villain in Percy and Harold. I would suggest you do a video on Percy as the villain. Thomas was the villain in Thomas, Terence and the snow, but Thomas owned up to his behaviour, also Terence didn’t retaliate with his behaviour.
@keeyinic9297
@keeyinic9297 3 жыл бұрын
diesel was the joker (2019)
@sKid-gh9ub
@sKid-gh9ub 3 жыл бұрын
I have a few points to raise in response to this. 1. The "worthy Topham" thing is a poor translation of the original text. Diesel goes to say "the Fat Controller" before being corrected by Duck. Duck has never referred to Sir Topham Hatt as the Fat Controller previously, so he probably genuinely thinks that's rude, especially coming from a newcomer. 2. With regard to Duck being arrogant, that's a character flaw in his part, but it's worth revisiting the last line of Duck Takes Charge here; "After Percy went away, Duck was left to manage alone. He did so. Easily." Duck is more justified in thinking highly of himself than Diesel, who has yet to prove himself. Diesel bragged that he knew everything and didn't have to be shown what to do, which is what made it so funny when he tried so hard to move trucks that he wasn't meant to. 3. People keep mentioning that Duck played a trick on Diesel, but no one has been able to explain what exactly that trick was. Diesel refused to be taught, inevitably screwed up, and Duck merely laughed at his expense. 4. Duck disciplines the trucks when they take their ridiculing of Diesel too far. As the opening narration states, "When Duck returned and heard the trucks singing, he was horrified." If he was feigning this, the narration would have said so, or at least hinted at it. 5. Diesel proved his inability to take responsibility for his own mistake by accusing Duck of making the trucks laugh at him. He made Duck the scapegoat and took revenge. 6. The other engines have known Duck longer than Diesel, so it's not surprising they would see Diesel's baseless accusation for what it is. Also worth noting is that no one in the story hates Diesel at this point. All they've done is call out his arrogance, which doesn't in any way imply hatred. 7. That wasn't Diesel's only option. He could have taken it up with the Fat Controller. 8. Duck saying "I only wish I'd thought of those names myself if the dome fits" is merely a response to them not letting him into the shed, as well as a dig at Gordon for having lost his dome in Domeless Engines. This reference would have been lost on TVS viewers as that story wouldn't be adapted for television until the next series. Another case of poor translation. 9. Duck is able to slow down the train enough to prevent the barber and his customer from being killed in the accident. That's the heroic deed that he does. 10. Duck feels that it was a sense of duty to slow down the trucks as opposed to an act of bravery. That's why he makes that comment. 11. Diesel was found out when he told lies about Henry. The circumstances of this aren't known, but I believe the reader is expected to assume that Diesel made another mistake and Henry happened to be the nearest engine for Diesel to make the scapegoat as he had already done with Duck. Again, this omission from the TV episode is another case of poor translation between mediums, but all of this put together pretty thoroughly exonerates Duck.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
You are a very well spoken individual and make many valid points!
@zashamelproductions69420
@zashamelproductions69420 3 жыл бұрын
I cant see duck the same way now because of this XD great video though
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dontcallmedirtypercy4147
@dontcallmedirtypercy4147 3 жыл бұрын
I dont totally agree on the fact that duck is the villian but pretty good information to back up your statement.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@timthetenderengine2495
@timthetenderengine2495 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so, Duck played a trick on diesel for boasting, yes? Well actually that’s where your wrong. If you take into consideration what diesel says. “We diesels don’t need to learn, we are revolutionary.” Theres also two other things, Duck didn’t tell which trucks diesel could take. Duck says, “If your so revothingagummy, then perhaps you’d like to fetch my trucks, while I arrange Gordon’s coaches.” He just asked him to collect his trucks. The second thing. Put an engine like James or Henry in a story like this. James/Henry would become boastful, Duck would make some witty comment, they would end up screwing themselves over, and then things would go on as normal. Diesel over reacted because HE THOUGHT DUCK was playing a trick on him, when in reality, he wasn’t.
@noahbacklund74
@noahbacklund74 2 жыл бұрын
Gordon, James and Henry acted like hypocrites here because they have no issues with teasing Duck, Edward, Percy and Thomas.
@RWSfan2024
@RWSfan2024 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, Duck had no good reason to be mean to Diesel, Duck had it coming
@BiggCityB0i5
@BiggCityB0i5 3 жыл бұрын
You make a good point, I think that Duck got what he deserved when he crashed into the barber shop.
@LukeProd18
@LukeProd18 3 жыл бұрын
Yknow sometimes I just think about hey duck sorta got his way and diesel was just there talking smack to duck.only after duck was a jerk. I just feel after thinking duck mightve gotten his way so thats why diesel hates him and keeps coming back. Man im questioning my whole life know Dude this was a great video! I cant say it enough you are so underrated!
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yeah I agree I think that Diesel just wants revenge on Duck
@LukeProd18
@LukeProd18 3 жыл бұрын
@@splendidwolf442 your welcome man! Can't wait for more great content!
@GamerB2022LikesTugs
@GamerB2022LikesTugs 3 жыл бұрын
Actually if you think about it, this might be why Montague was the antagonist in TATHP.
@brightredmogul1912
@brightredmogul1912 3 жыл бұрын
also one of the only times in the show that signalmen are competent, and the signalman doesn't get any recognition for it
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Fax
@brightredmogul1912
@brightredmogul1912 3 жыл бұрын
@@splendidwolf442 hey wait a minute I just realized something - Didn't the narrator say "the *SILLY* engines were flattered" after Diesel complimented them? Diesel probably wanted to get on the big engine's good side in case something bad were to happen to him. Not saying Diesel planned to get Duck sent away from the start, of course.
@thelonecoach6976
@thelonecoach6976 3 жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the episode Edward does the same thing to Thomas in the adventure begins correcting him to say Sir Topham Hatt. Duck could sense Diesel was up to no good Diesel did flatter Gordon Henry and James but Duck could tell he was trying to get on the big engines good side the big engines, Duck didn't trick Diesel into pulling the wrong trucks he basically says if you're so good then prove it, Diesel just so happens to pick the wrong trucks. Also if Diesel was the good guy why after Duck leaves he starts to tell lies about Henry?
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
What episode did Diesel tell lies about Henry in?
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I did not watch the adventure begins.
@thelonecoach6976
@thelonecoach6976 3 жыл бұрын
@@splendidwolf442 The railway series you know the books at the show's based on in the story a close shave the fat controller says that not long after Duck left Diesel began spreading lies about Henry.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
I did not know that, since I have never read the railway series. Perhaps Diesel told lies about Henry because he was angry at him for taking Duck’s side when Diesel accused him of tricking him.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I did not watch The Adventure Begins.
@camerontrackmasterproducti5251
@camerontrackmasterproducti5251 3 жыл бұрын
oh my god, your'e right...
@Thomas_Boom
@Thomas_Boom 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question, where do you get the footage from if ThomasHDClassics has been taken down? I use those seasons 1-7 videos I found.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
I just search up the episodes I want
@theevildalek5425
@theevildalek5425 3 жыл бұрын
I can tell you’re a Unlucky Tug fan
@ThomasAndRandomRobloxGames
@ThomasAndRandomRobloxGames 2 жыл бұрын
one of your points in this is wrong as, in the uk dub, the *BETTER* version of thomas. dont argue, it is. diesel is about to say fat controller
@ses_teamfredYT
@ses_teamfredYT 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are just too good. Awesome work my man!
@theburpman8006
@theburpman8006 2 жыл бұрын
It is a shame how there was not other stories, apart from Diesel does it again, with Duck and Diesel in the show together. Duck and Diesel really kicked off the conflict and started trouble between the steam engines and the diesel engines.
@YoutubeChannel-dh7tb
@YoutubeChannel-dh7tb 3 жыл бұрын
What a neat video! BTW I have a very weird suggestion for a video depends on your opinion on the character. Why does thomas never grow as a character? For example he's always in his own world treating Percy like trash sometimes. Ik its mainly cus of the show wanting him to be a baby pretty much. If you want to do that its completely optional. Anyways awesome work pal!
@JoTaylor-mackenzie
@JoTaylor-mackenzie 6 ай бұрын
Yeah My View Of Duck Has Not Changed After This, As Many Other Diesels That Came to Sodor (Excluding Rusty Daisy BoCo Mavis Derek Paxton Dennis Norman And Sydney) Were Also Rude And Think That Steam Engines Are Out Of Date And Deserve To Be Scrapped.
@jacobschulman1306
@jacobschulman1306 3 жыл бұрын
Duck always makes mistakes 2 his actions
@Nic_2751
@Nic_2751 Ай бұрын
(This video was written by Thomas according to Unlucky Tug)
@Nic_2751
@Nic_2751 Ай бұрын
As much as I like to dunk on Duck Literally nobody told Diesel to show off trying to get the wrong trucks…..
@flyinggordonproductions4875
@flyinggordonproductions4875 3 жыл бұрын
My point is made
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@terencewilliammckenna6121
@terencewilliammckenna6121 2 жыл бұрын
Diesel was the villain
@BottomOfTheBarrelProductions
@BottomOfTheBarrelProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I have thought about this before I agree stay splendid splendid
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
I will do so!
@eslm-studios2996
@eslm-studios2996 3 жыл бұрын
What you said about the bit where Duck 'defended Diesel', I'm sorry, lad, but Duck was indeed defending him. While he may have played a trick on Diesel, as Gordon, Henry and James explained, Duck would never mean to let trucks be rude to any engine. And given that the three engines have known Duck longer, they're right. And if the engines will vouch for Duck, then your claim is false. "I only wish, Sir, that I had thought of those names myself, if the dome fits." That wasn't an insult. Duck didn't come up with those names himself. And the 'if the dome fits' part... well... I can see how Gordon may take offence, but then again, it's more or less Duck saying 'if the boot fits'. Begging your pardon, but Duck didn't go as far as to lie to the Fat Controller, which Diesel did. Everything you just said about Duck's Close Shave is absurd. Also, don't forget, Diesel was on trial at this time. Some engines will be skeptical of him, especially since he's the first diesel they've ever seen. In fact, I think you should have looked at both dubs before doing this video. Just looking at the one isn't enough. And if you look at the OG story, you'd find there's more to the story than what is adapted. Observe. kzbin.info/aero/PLMfjiuSWSSs3KGSRNqs90puSqvIAbWUsC kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4jLl3eaf6ycb80 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4q9maeundyGorM kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXS4loiDfbuKhdk
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 3 жыл бұрын
More like leaving Diesel to his own devices when Diesel boasted that he doesn't need to learn about how Sodor works.
@lucienjones4501
@lucienjones4501 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying that Duck is flawless. In fact I don't think as highly of him as most people, but as someone who grew up watching the us dubs, I just can't bring myself to understand the blame going Duck's way. What was the trick people accuses him of? Diesel thought Duck had tricked him, so where are the people getting at when they blame Duck?
@WoodenRailwayEdward
@WoodenRailwayEdward 3 жыл бұрын
That just makes me love Duck more. You can never make me hate Duck.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
I also love duck. This isn’t a video intended to make people dislike him.
@WoodenRailwayEdward
@WoodenRailwayEdward 3 жыл бұрын
Well your evil plan didn't work. Duck is superior and you know it.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not saying Diesel is a better character then Duck. I like them both equally.
@WoodenRailwayEdward
@WoodenRailwayEdward 3 жыл бұрын
Your video was made to ruin Duck's reputation. People in this community can't take others opinions, I can't believe you to are discrediting my take on Duck. Duck is a wonderful character and better than any other.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion. I’m sorry that I discredited it, it was unintentional. You make some very valid points about Duck.
@mrtally7334
@mrtally7334 3 жыл бұрын
You do have a good point. But I guess that duck and diesel knew each before they came to sodor. Maybe diesel did something wrong before he came to sodor and duck did not forgive him after what he did. When diesel came to sodor duck knew his past and was keeping him in order so he wouldn’t cause trouble. And maybe since he didn’t tell the big engines he was worried that they will not believe him after the kind remarks diesel said to them
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like if they had met before they would’ve mentioned it.
@mrtally7334
@mrtally7334 3 жыл бұрын
@@splendidwolf442 true but since O8 shutters where a huge successes so duck wanted to make sure that it was the diesel he knew
@YoutubeChannel-dh7tb
@YoutubeChannel-dh7tb 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 1k views man!
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@thomaspercyjames3483
@thomaspercyjames3483 3 жыл бұрын
You make a good point. But, may I ask, who is the true hero of all of Thomas.
@camerontrackmasterproducti5251
@camerontrackmasterproducti5251 3 жыл бұрын
lmao a 4 year old would say its thomas
@matttheoddestsaddletank518
@matttheoddestsaddletank518 3 жыл бұрын
It's that one truck that always looks constipated every time he or she is on screen
@davidantoniocamposbarros7528
@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 3 жыл бұрын
Marklin lmao
@Thomas_Boom
@Thomas_Boom 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Awdry wanted Duck to be the good guy in the story, but I don’t think he did that the best way XD! Also, when Duck says he wishes that he had come up with those names himself, that probably means he wishes he called them that. Maybe Diesel has had a troublesome past and he wanted to change his ways, but because of Duck he doesn’t. That’s why Topham says “He needs to learn, please teach him Duck.” As if he had a troublesome past and he wanted to change maybe.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
I think Tophem Hatt told Duck that because Diesel was inexperienced and hadn’t shunted much.
@Thomas_Boom
@Thomas_Boom 3 жыл бұрын
@@splendidwolf442 Yeah, that’s more likely.
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 3 жыл бұрын
Diesel never has a troublesome past. He was just being built to work on the railway and wants to replace steam engines like most diesels before he arrives on Sodor and start his devious antagonist antics and The Fat Controller ask Duck to show him how things work on Sodor compared to the Other Railway so incorrect.
@LMS5935
@LMS5935 3 жыл бұрын
Actually I think the story is written kind of to make it sound like Duck is the villain in some cases because the Reverend W awdry was prodigious towards diesels and hated them and when Daisy was introduced he hated her because he was forced to add her obviously that mindset changed but still the Reverend kind of messed up the story with his prejudiced
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 3 жыл бұрын
Let's not being cold to Awdry because it's his choice to make some of the diesels antagonists like Devious Diesel and good guys like BoCo and Mavis in his books which works well in the TV show which we fans enjoy for years. He also did a great story creating the stories of Duck and Diesel's rivalry so it's not messed up at all. No story is ever messed up. I hope you understand that.
@dorsius
@dorsius 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I have to respectfully disagree on that. While I get that these are Awdry's stories and characters, and is able to do what he wants with them, it doesn't mean I agree with everything he done. . His potrayal of diesels being the main one for me. Even though he chose to make some of the diesels antaganists due to them replacing steam engines, all he did was create a black and white perspective on diesels. Which for most part doesn't allow diesel characters like Boco, Bear and to extent Mavis to be flawed and just only "the nice diesels". Which makes them a little one-dimensional to me. Plus its like the stories are saying only steamers(even though I sympathize for them due to scraping) are the good guys and don't have any bad apples at all. Which I feel is a bit hypocritical when you take steamers like Gordon, James(who both have had history of bullying several characters), Thomas and especailly Spencer into account. This why I'm glad content creaters stories, are putting some diesels in more of a grey area as well as showing not all steamers are good. The fan made charatcer Alfred being a great example of that. This is how I felt, because even I'm fan of both locomotives, I'm getting sick and tired diesel locomotives, thomas related or not constanly getting based on.
@sammyclark4992
@sammyclark4992 3 жыл бұрын
You make a lot of valid points here. It was technically Duck's fault of why Diesel is the way he is today. If it weren't for Duck's suspicion over Diesel, he probably wouldn't be the evil diesel villain that we all know of him today. And speaking of that, I think that this video just gave me an idea for a future episode to my series. However, it'll probably be a while before I get that I idea that I just came up with into motion.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 3 жыл бұрын
Duck was right to be suspicious of Diesel because he could sense Diesel was up to no good Diesel did flatter Gordon Henry and James but Duck could tell he was trying to get on the big engines good side the big engines and later reveals his true nature in the next episode just like with most heroes in other media. Not to mention the fact that Diesel's boasting about being new and don't need to learn got him into an incident with the trucks so his own fault for be the diesel villain we all know of him today, not Duck's. Stop blaming Duck.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Diesel only told lies AFTER what Duck did. Diesel would not tell lies of Duck did not trick him.
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 3 жыл бұрын
@@splendidwolf442 Still right to be suspicious of Diesel's nature nonetheless and plus, Duck did not trick him, only leave him to his own devices after Diesel boasted that he doesn't need to learn which lead to the incident with the trucks and has only himself to blame, not Duck. He would still told lies nonetheless. Forgot that?
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Diesel only told lies because he was angry at Duck. Why else would he do that?
@Themadboi
@Themadboi 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no a twist villain
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Top ten anime plot twists 😳
@Henry03Studios
@Henry03Studios 3 жыл бұрын
i think that the real villains are the thomas fandom, they can't give people opinions i really like this. hell, i agree. I thought that Duck had no character for most of the Classic era, so this is a good idea Duck made Diesel into a bad person. He wouldn't have made lies if Duck never was so rude to him. You made an excellent analysis on this! Great work!
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 3 жыл бұрын
Duck was right to be suspicious of Diesel because he could sense Diesel was up to no good Diesel did flatter Gordon Henry and James but Duck could tell he was trying to get on the big engines good side the big engines and later reveals his true nature in the next episode just like with most heroes in other media. Not to mention the fact that Diesel's boasting about being new and don't need to learn got him into an incident with the trucks so his own fault for be the diesel villain we all know of him today, not Duck's. Stop blaming Duck.
@theevildalek5425
@theevildalek5425 3 жыл бұрын
1:52 Ok, there is a mistake here. In the original UK narration & Railway Series Book, Diesel says “You’re worthy Fat-“ with Duck interrupting, saying “That Sir Topham Hatt to you!” For some reason, the US narrations only referred to him as ‘Sir Topham Hatt,’ and not both that & ‘The Fat Controller’ as he is commonly referred to in the UK and other countries
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
My apologies for the mistake. I did not watch the U.K narration.
@eslm-studios2996
@eslm-studios2996 3 жыл бұрын
@@splendidwolf442 It might have been best if you did. Duck's doubtfulness is kinda justified by the way Diesel speaks. Mainly because Diesel spoke in an 'oily' voice. That's more or less another way to explain a suspicious tone.
@GigaPK
@GigaPK 3 жыл бұрын
@@eslm-studios2996 so Duck racially profiled him? I ask this since diesels use oil, hence oily voice. Furthermore, if you look at Steam and Diesel engines as base races (black, white, asian, Latino/a/x, etc) and being from different origin railways (GWR, LMS, etc) as different countries, the story “Pop Goes the Diesel” makes Duck seem like a racially profiling nationalist.
@eslm-studios2996
@eslm-studios2996 3 жыл бұрын
@@GigaPK ‘Oily’, in how it was described, was another way to say ‘sinister’. Nothing to do with racial profiles.
@GigaPK
@GigaPK 3 жыл бұрын
@@eslm-studios2996 fair enough. Though I’m curious how Duck would react to a steam engine with an oily voice
@theburpman8006
@theburpman8006 Жыл бұрын
I feel the situation between Duck and Diesel was six of one and half a dozen of another. It is simply because Duck was too boastful of his heritage and was too sharp with Diesel and predicted him too quickly and then played a trick on him. However Diesel was showing off and tried to claim he knew everything when he hadn’t had any experience or demonstrated to the engines what he knew and Duck had worked well since Percy left to built the harbour.
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
HOLY COW WE JUST GOT 1K VIEWS AHHHhHH THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@greenengine03
@greenengine03 3 жыл бұрын
Duck’s not that good of a character tbh
@chavopatyduckoliverfanstud4149
@chavopatyduckoliverfanstud4149 3 жыл бұрын
Like robbie is the hero and sporaflop as the villian
@GordonSnowMachine
@GordonSnowMachine 3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@chavopatyduckoliverfanstud4149
@chavopatyduckoliverfanstud4149 3 жыл бұрын
@@GordonSnowMachine i thought you was nevrr seen aggain after the s5 finale
@GordonSnowMachine
@GordonSnowMachine 3 жыл бұрын
@@chavopatyduckoliverfanstud4149 hahahaha you really are funny
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 3 жыл бұрын
That's silly. Robbie Rotten is perfect as the villain while Sportacus the hero.
@chavopatyduckoliverfanstud4149
@chavopatyduckoliverfanstud4149 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 ikr however some lazytown fans siwtch robbiebabd sportacus roles
@cnmn1692
@cnmn1692 3 жыл бұрын
of course duck is the villain he try to kill toby
@splendidwolf442
@splendidwolf442 3 жыл бұрын
Tobias and the half pariah!
@cnmn1692
@cnmn1692 3 жыл бұрын
@@splendidwolf442 yes
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