DuckDuckGo Now C̶e̶n̶s̶o̶r̶i̶n̶g̶ Results?! - SR79

[@techlore]

*Subscribe to the new SR Channel!* - kzbin.info/door/0W_BIuwk8D0Bv4THbVZZOQ SR79 Sources: github.com/techlore/channel-content/blob/master/Surveillance%20Report%20Sources/SR79.md 00:00 Introduction 00:33 Important Announcement! 01:50 Highlight Story (DuckDuckGo Results) 07:34 Data Breaches 09:08 Companies 15:16 Research 17:03 Politics 22:44 FOSS 27:46 Misfits 29:10 Important Announcement!

[@itsme7570]

Hey is there a way to reach out to you guys if there's a story you should know about?

[@dertythegrower]

DuckduckGo was never good, google already was tracking the users using it for years.. you guys that kept thinking it was safe, ya, you were duped and many knew this. Secondly... StartPage has been around longer and is far superior. Also i told this to kids all the time, but they dont list.. the searchbar for duckduckgo when used actually sends your search terms in the URL (completely obvious, even still shows with https encryption, for a fact to anyone who has router access to admin logs.. aka anyone with a brain on most default routers which are easily hacked)

[@dertythegrower]

Eli Pariser warned about all this in 2011 on a ted talk.. I warned everyone else I could for 11 years now... Nobody listened, i was called a 'conspiracy' theory person and also google COMPLETELY banned me from reporting and questioning why comments were erasing... Let that sink in... Google help forum banned me for requesting why my comments were deleting after 21 seconds. Eli Pariser and Snowden proved it all. Nobody listened mostly.

[@itsme7570]

@@dertythegrower Snowden is a plant.

[@nedludd7622]

@@itsme7570 Unlike you?

[@Arms2003]

Yes, no one search engine is unbiased, but there is a crucial difference between filtering relevant results according to the user's search, and trying to occult relevant and perharps wanted results from the user because you think you're the new ministry of truth.

[@HickoryDickory86]

Precisely! All these companies inagining themselves to be the arbiters of truth and the guardians of what I should or should not see is really pissing me off and grating on my last remaining nerves. I am not a child, and I do not need digital nannies.

[@lakzerk2344]

@@HickoryDickory86 yeah atleast make it opt in or opt out

[@joshofalltrades8882]

“DNS-over-HTTPS is generally regarded as a step up from DNS-Over-TLS” - Henry casually stepping into one of the biggest arguments in the privacy world

[@skug978]

Yeah, I hate DoH technology. (Invented by Google to allow Google tech to sneak data out of your network.) For me, I like to be able to control my home or work systems, putting firewalls in place to prevent smartphones or other proprietary devices (smart TVs, etc) from leaking personal information. With DoH, it becomes much more complicated to block those type of devices. Surprised at Henry's stance on this video.

[@progenitor_amborella]

@@skug978 As a pihole runner, yes to this. Firefox trying to turn it on with first startup conflicts with this, as well as whatever other services use it.

[@Zakanuva]

3:24 _Literally_ no different than Google, who they built their _entire_ brand around criticizing and being better than. *_"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."_*

[@savagligorijevic1932]

true, though they still don't have a filter bubble (as far as they say, but they're not open-source, so we can only trust them.)

[@Epic_C]

This should be a user choice, not their choice. Down ranking like this is censorship. If they gave a user option to allow them to hide results, all power to them as long as they give the user that choice. Otherwise leave it as is and let adults adult.

[@TheOmegaCloud]

18:15 On principle that should be the case, but it practice Companies have proven themselves unreliable with moderation turning it into a tool for censorship.

[@xtina-ah]

I love that you're very bipartisan. I'm honestly so tired of politics.

[@AZ-rl7pg]

The problem with the social media "private company" censorship thing is most of those companies are so large and almost a requirement in daily life they might as well be considered utility companies. Aside from that the larger ones aren't even technically private companies anyways, for example Facebook went public in 2012 and Twitter went public in 2013. If they want to claim to be private companies to maintain their full autonomy then they need to be removed from the stock market where they are publicly traded.

[@cheetahman859]

Really, social media is a requirement for daily life? Are you sure? Because I can go days even weeks if not months without social media and it impacts my life not even a little bit. I don't live life through an app worrying about if someone liked some stupid thing I posted, that most people could not care any less about in the first place. Nor do I break into sweats because I didn't see where someone was and what they were eating. I just don't care, I live my life in the real world not some make believe world.

[@AZ-rl7pg]

@@cheetahman859 that's why I said *almost* a requirement. It's just like having a phone is almost a requirement, you can live your life just fine without it but having it can make a lot of things much easier.

[@wChris_]

twitter and facebook arent private companys anymore, you could argue that their reach surpasses that of the state, like TV. So for those social media companys whining about being treated unfairly is disingenuous as free speech is basically a basic human right!

[@jessecortez9449]

It could be argued that they are not and maybe have never been private companies as they had heavy cash investments from government funds making them extensions of government. Same goes for tv since bills have been passed that grant government the capacity to use public broadcasting as means for propaganda. An example would be promoting military during football games, people today think that always happened but it only started a few years after the War on Terror was begun. Or even older, tv stations used to end broadcasting at night and have a sign off message playing the national anthem that had confirmed subliminal messages in it telling the viewer to obey the government. The constant whining from these companies is just to make you think they are independent free market companies when they are anything but that.

[@FactFinderGeneral]

Big Tech has been needing to be regulated like a public utility for a long long time now. The number of active global users on Facebook (if to be believed) is half that of those in the world who have access to clean drinking water which is a lot. Many many more times that of the US population. Even with its use and popularity falling there are more than enough Americans using it to warrant heavier regulation. Same goes for Twitter. Europe is at least trying.

[@TheVariousA]

@@jessecortez9449 💯

[@AcidiFy574]

@@FactFinderGeneral That's a bad move Look kzbin.info/www/bejne/rarbn5SXhdaViM0

[@TheNumbersPerson]

The irony in the new duckduckgo filtering is that it's now pushed quite a few people towards using Yandex. For me it was never about the privacy, that can be addressed with handling how you search intelligently. It was about the results not being filtered based on politics or other stupid irrelevant reasons.

[@FactFinderGeneral]

They were already being filtered, ALL search engines filter politically as well as for relevancy, especially the ones that pull from other peoples databases. If you think Yandex, Bing, Google, InsertHere, don't have political leanings you are sorely mistaken.

[@TheNumbersPerson]

@@FactFinderGeneral I'm sure they all do, that's why I'm looking for a new search engine that doesn't. As I'd previously assumed DDG didn't since that was formerly a big part of their advertising. At this point it may come down to running my own SearX instance.

[@cheetahman859]

@@TheNumbersPerson What part of they all do it, is confusing? Your adventure in finding an engine that doesn't is a futile endeavour. Not really what it is with some people who can not grasp this. Yes, I've seen SearX being used as the one to go to as if it is some golden tower. Where do you think SearX pulls from? Did you look? All of these different "search engines" are all pulling from the limited amount of companies that actually provide the results. This is why all this banging of drums is so silly

[@MadsterV]

You can test it out yourself. Search for some topic that's being actively supressed. There are no unbiased opinions, that is true, but search engines should NOT be delivering opinions. They're just an index. Don't pretend your crappy filtered option is the only one.

[@TheNumbersPerson]

@@cheetahman859 Combining results that are biased in opposite directions can cancel out the bias fairly effectively. And even if something seems unlikely or even impossible, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be pursued.

[@gerowen]

13:15 Random thought, but why aren't these code signing certificates stored on a public key store, like PGP keys, that can be referenced whenever an internet connection is available? This would allow people like NVidia in this instance to revoke the compromised keys, and if somebody tried to install a driver signed by one of those revoked keys, they would get a warning.

[@gamingthunder6305]

biometrics are such a bad bad idea to secure anything. i will never use my finger print or face or any other biometric to pay or secure anything. you cant replace biometric data ones its compromised and fingerprints are already fairly trivial to spoof.

[@ShiroIsMyName]

I advocate that biometrics should not be used as a password, but rather as a 2FA solution.

[@AcidiFy574]

@@ShiroIsMyName No, You can't change your biometrics & you leave prints everywhere

[@FactFinderGeneral]

A lot of people don't understand that DuckDuckGo is not it's own independent search engine. It was always just about privacy, and always bias because of the nature of how it pulls result. Every search is bias as mentioned. There was also pressure from the EU on companies to help tackle Russian propaganda (though apparently Ukrainian propaganda was ok, which is it's own issue). Yet another issue of "influencers" blowing smoke and the sheep in the community following along. A lot of folks in the privacy community pretend to know what they're talking about and unfortunately a lot of those with big followings fall in that category. Techlore is one of the few that actually stay on the level.

[@trudojo]

The thought of echos bossing themselves around made me giggle for a bit. A bit of unintentional wordplay and cosmic irony. Gold.

[@GabrielM01]

I think it should be illegal to analyze your face without your permission

[@John-yy4kc]

I don't want other people deciding for me what is or is not false fake news or propaganda.

[@bgtyhnmju7]

Probably the first time I've subscribed to a channel with no videos :o) I like the idea of a SR channel. Best of luck guys.

[@ozzieggg]

Lmao DuckDuckGo alienated most of their usebase with one move. Librewolf should switch the default search engine.

[@wingandhog]

Like every browser out there, you can manually select other viable search engines in Librewolf. It doesn’t work for everything or for everyone, but I’m a Librewolf fan. It’s my default browser on my Linux machines.

[@ozzieggg]

@@wingandhog yes, absolutely you can switch, but the default matters still. I can make firefox work like librewolf(or pretty close at least), sure. But will I? No.

[@dertythegrower]

DuckduckGo was never good, google already was tracking the users using it for years.. you were duped kid. Secondly... StartPage has been around longer and is far superior. Also i told this to kids all the time, but they dont list.. the searchbar for duckduckgo when used actually sends your search terms in the URL (completely obvious, even still shows with https encryption, for a fact to anyone who has router access to admin logs.. aka anyone with a brain on most default routers which are easily hacked)

[@trappedcat3615]

@@dertythegrower Okay Sir 👍

[@wingandhog]

@@dertythegrower …. Best to harden your router and use VPN at the router level if it can be supported. I switched over to a PfSense solution last year. Seems to handle my security needs just fine.

[@MikeyD2487]

Who the hell stores customer information in a GitHub repo of an individual employee of an organization? 🤦‍♂️

[@im1random263]

Who stores customer information in a git repo in the first place wtf

[@wingandhog]

Uninstalled DDG on all my devices when they started throttling free speech. I will use Brave or Qwant for now. I prefer to decide for myself what is true or false

[@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable.]

DDG is not the arbiter of truth or facts. No one installed the browser for fact checking. Filtering spam, scams etc sure, but no one selected them as the ministry of truth.

[@wingandhog]

@@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable. …. Correct… folks bought into their mantra about privacy and non-censored free speech. However, when they stack rank or throttle back search results, they in essence become the ‘arbitrator of truth and facts’…. Much like twitland, Google and FB now do

[@livinginbirminghamalabama5731]

What are these browser?

[@wingandhog]

@@livinginbirminghamalabama5731 Brave is a browser with its own search engine. Qwant is a search engine. (French I believe)

[@dertythegrower]

Startpage *is and always was better than DuckDuckGo* .. for 10 years.

[@mrfoodarama]

Very Disappointed in DuckDuckGo.. Seems this happens to most companies when they reach a certain size. What a shame

[@sisterseeth]

The job of a search engine is to deliver search queries, not be the arbitrators of truth. It's Duck season.

[@Witcherworks]

Who determines what is “misleading” oh that’s right, your owners. Never mind….

[@TotusEius]

Down ranking IS censorship!

[@huddunlap3999]

Down ranking things you don't like is censorship

[@dertythegrower]

Yep... They have done that since 2011... i warned all of you all i tried.. Eli Pariser proved this on stage on ted talk in 2011.... Eli Pariser - Filter Bubble Ted Talk 🎯

[@beachboardfan9544]

So whos a worthwhile SE? Only time I'm using google or bing is if I'm shopping. I started using ddg at your suggestion a few years ago...

[@recklessroges]

Are you going to copy all of the SR videos over to the new channel? [I think that you should, but I don't know]

[@fosres]

Great that you started the Surveillance Report channel. Let me go subscribe now.

[@afarquiaonion5258]

Im already suscribed to surveleance report, your secondary channel 🍷🐧

[@NawidN]

Unfortunately the new Mullvad VPN application doesn't work on any Windows below Windows 10.

[@ArtOfHealth]

Also, when I search for your new identity in KZbin, it does not show up. Only Techlore shows up. Please explain. Thanks

[@techlore]

The channel has no uploads yet, normal.

[@ArtOfHealth]

@@techlore Thank you Henry

[@lizardjr.7826]

Are there any based search engines left??

[@Cauthon007]

DuckDuckGo went from actively recommended to being switched out on all my devices. A search engine that downranks results from politics it disagrees with is just a propaganda tool, i might aswell use google news if thats the case

[@readypetequalmers7360]

I was thinking with all of the crap on the MSM (including clear lies) they have a lot of "propaganda" sites to remove, but they approve of those.

[@djpuplex]

At this point it's Brave and TOR for me.

[@robertpaulson8790]

Brave search isn't great though is it? I've heard there's a solid portion that's closed source

[@wingandhog]

@@robertpaulson8790 …. Brave works for me but I think Qwant search is a little better

[@brackguthrie9470]

@@robertpaulson8790 Brave and Brave Search have worked really well for me. I just wish they did not use Chromium for their browser.

[@wingandhog]

@@marco31 … You may be sadly right… we live in crazy times

[@dertythegrower]

Tor? lol 😆 You need TCPview, noscript, privacybadger, and firefox of an older version thats secure and allows addons.

[@ninostephen]

The whole Ukraine - Russia issue is complicated. Under no circumstances can anyone justify attack on the Ukrainians. But, given the history that the west has been like the toxic and manipulative ex, I have a hard time believing their narratives too. When we claim stories from Russia are false claims, we never gave the same amount of scrutiny to what the West is saying. How many people knew that the soviet union wanted to join NATO in the past? Or that NATO bombed yugoslavia and no one from the UN condemned them? Or that NATO didn't respect its assurances to Russia that NATO wouldn't expand eastward? And the security guarantee too? None of this is new. When companies take a side, especially when they can influence a huge number of people using there tech, it should be called out. We are essentially siding with a narrative from a group who is known to be manipulative. Russia too is manipulative. No doubt there. But companies doing this is bad on various levels.

[@_.Leo_.]

Or that the US exempt itself from war crimes with the Hague Invasion Act authorizing use of force against the Netherlands if any American is ever held on war crimes? Or that the US used depleted uranium and cluster bombs in Yugoslavia and Iraq while currently claiming that Russia's use is a war crime. Lol.

[@MarketAndChurch]

NATO wasn't a threat to Russia. It was a threat to Putin and his police state.

[@_.Leo_.]

@MarketAndChurch Hot take, internet ma'am. When the Soviets put their military in Cuba as retaliation for US nukes in Turkey, why did the US threaten the planet with nuclear winter? Apparently only Americans are allowed to determine what constitutes a threat. Nato is a military alliance. It broke its guarantees to post-soviet Russia. It faked as being purely defensive while simultaneously bombing Slavic people in Yugoslavia for no NATO purpose. But sure. nO tHrEaT because you said so. Lol

[@thegent2716]

You will see what are you saying right now on the mainstream media soon, let the dust settle

[@thegent2716]

@jernejj5 The arrogance of the west, what else can this be?

[@TotusEius]

Just subbed the new channel.

[@MiKEY_SANZ]

4:04 What are their Politics?

[@ChrisKhaled83]

What company would store customers credentials in a GitHub Repo anyway? That is really stupid.

[@georgetek]

I’ve been pushing DDG for the last year and this is disappointing. Brave it is.

[@dertythegrower]

Well you are duped, ddg and startpage were around for 10 years.. also duckduckgo alwasy revealed the searchterms in the url so any admin with log access would be able to see it, heh. Also everyone in IT knows duckduckgo was tracked by googl for years, they could link your profile to your youtube and gmail easily.. long well known facts, you should have been promoting startpage like the security admins for years have used.... make sure you only use the US servers in settings. Also cached pages on startpage a major second reason to use startpage....

[@ShiroIsMyName]

@@dertythegrower most of use are not IT guys, DDG was considered a very trustworthy search engine, not need to use this condescending tone on every comment you are responding to.

[@andreas956]

Startpage seems to be best privacy alternative right now.

[@youtubeuser206]

@@andreas956 startpage, ddg, bing, Google etc are all the same.. image search 'blonde braids' and the results are almost exclusively African women, clear agenda being pushed. yandex is the only search that will return results of actual blonde women so that is what I use.

[@youtubeuser206]

@@andreas956 for security I use a VPN so I'm more concerned with quality of search results when choosing a search engine

[@Ruby-os5nw]

Can you make a video on privacy for KZbinrs pls if you don't mind for new youtubers

[@matthewwilliamsracing]

Well it was good while it lasted #duckduckgone

[@im1random263]

Wouldn't it be possible with this 'dirty pipe' bug to root android devices where you can't unlock the botloader?

[@alksdng97834y]

It has always censored results

[@deepedu7582]

Plz, can you Make a video about email privacy? I have a question about how many email ids one should make for different purposes. (Sry for bad English)

[@philipdove1705]

So the duck has become a Ducktator

[@antiglitcher]

I started using searx like a week before ddg started censoring results, dodged a bullet lmao

[@SerPapus]

It is good?

[@antiglitcher]

@@SerPapus From my experience yes, the ui may take a bit to get used to, but it serves its purpose and is private and secure

[@RamsteinPoplaski]

Me too, I started using SearX this week

[@cheetahman859]

LOL, Yes and where does SearX get their results that they show you? You're back to Google and Bing which both decide what it is you see... Every single engine decides what it puts in front of you. And DDG isn't "censoring" anything, they are down ranking. So now you have to go to page 5 to read Russian lies instead of it being on page 1. My website isn't on page 1 all the time, I guess I'm being "censored" as well....

[@MadsterV]

@@cheetahman859 you contradict yourself. The downranking IS the problem. With enough ranking punishment, you'll never see a result even if it's the most relevant. This is in effect censoring the result.

[@SerPapus]

After that tweet. I’m gonna stop using them. They lost me. I literally used them so I don’t get fake search results

[@bubandlisa]

I deleted it this afternoon and switched to BRAVE as i DONT WANT a lil google clone telling me what i can or cant see

[@Rickety3263]

DuckDuckGone! Switched to Brave.

[@kychemclass5850]

I'm glad DDG has the choice to do whatever it wants, sadly they don't give that same freedom to us content seekers. Odd that they target RT when the BBC said Russian APC's ran over a Ukrainian man in car, participated in the Ghost of Kiev BS and went on an on about Saddam Hussein having WMD and actually tested a nuclear weapon!! BBC should be downgraded more.

[@Bresais12]

Lol.. off topic.. but i love that you used commandeers . I feel that word isnt used enough and incredibly under-rated

[@-someone-.]

It’s duck season. I’m making a browser call Bugs Bunny

[@rwx-zach]

About DDG, I switched from them to Startpage a year ago or so ago, because I just could not stand all of the garbage foreign language results when I explictly set it to English (US). Still have no idea why that was happening but I am loving Startpage ever since that, I even whitelist them in my Ublock Origin because I want to support them. :)

[@LordiGFX]

I thought startpage wasn't safe anymore though?

[@rwx-zach]

@@LordiGFX I am fully aware of the System1 thing, but I personally think they are pretty safe/true to their word. If something else arises I might switch to a SearX instance but I am dreading that because every time I use any SearX instance is so unbearably slow. Privacy isn't binary. Have a threat model. :)

[@levelup1279]

I had DDG whitelisted on uBlock Orgin, I am going to continue using them but I enabled ad block so I don't support them financially. If the owner apologizes & reverts his decision I'll whitelist them again. People should be allowed to make mistakes & be forgiven, but until he fixes them they wont be getting and revenue from me.

[@fgsaramago]

@@LordiGFX sure, theyre owned by an ad company. Thing is, their privacy policy is by far the best. They go as far as creating methods so that they dont receive stuff thats normally sent to them automatically, like IP addresses. In comparison, ddg says they dont "store" IPs but says nothing about whether they send it to Microsoft, which that being the case certainly stores it for 18 months and does whatever they want with it, as per their privacy policy. Additionally ddg stores supposedly anonymous undisclosed usage info. What that entails and just how anonymized it is is unclear. Qwant is just ddg but worse or at least more explicit. They state they may send anything they want to Microsoft (and explicitly mention and link to Microsoft's privacy policy) and store IPs themselves for two weeks also. Then, if you see the public statements of ddg ceo, guy found out the privacy niche and hes all about exploting that niche. Nothing necessarily wrong with that but you then look at interviews with startpage ceo and you get the impression that he personally strongly believes in privacy, guy has been doing it for almost two decades, since before anyone was even giving a crap about privacy online.

[@purwarpranav80]

Just got to know about your channel from TheHated One

[@ivancarlos6317]

Changed to Presearch, seems like a great option.

[@buddysdz]

Thanks for this trick!

[@scottmiller2591]

So the ranking used to be by relevance - everything opposed to the narrative is irrelevant. Need a teaching on how to use Yandex as default FF search engine.

[@andreas956]

Thanks for this important update. So disappointed. I heard rumors about them having shady backers and funders just a week ago and now this. I heard there was another good alternative but can't remember the name.

[@bardoomguy]

Brave search?

[@jeana8224]

Shady backers/funders ?

[@FactFinderGeneral]

@@bardoomguy Both Brave and DuckDuckGo are owned by the same kind of people.

[@joelgrigsby96]

I still use the DDG app because of the tracker blocking feature, which is in beta right now.

[@でん-p5h]

eso no sirve mejor utiliza ublock orign que ya viene todo eso incluido por defecto compañero

[@Iuffycs]

@@でん-p5h speak english

[@mjouwbuis]

From an archival perspective it's usually a very bad idea to remove old contents instead of just copying it to the new channel.

[@godstenrules]

The issue here us the in 2015 or 16 DuckDuckGo was advertising themselves as a search engine that would offer unbiased and unfiltered results Now they're backtracking on that claim even though Even though in 2019 the official DuckDuckGo Twitter account quoted the ceo saying " When you search you expect unbiased results but that's not what you get at Google"

[@ironheadrondo5596]

Nathan's never here ,🤨🙂☺️😊😝😂 is the kettle white too Henry?

[@mysteriousjungalist]

I'm done with DDG. This is unacceptable.

[@redeyesdrogon786]

Intresting new stories this week. Can't wait to see the next one

[@chichikov777]

duck duck go now will decide what is correct info for you or what is not.... This is clearly shows that we all had a delusions about those guys

[@noahwilliams8918]

Something of note: I literally could NOT search for the SR channel on mobile. It did not show the channel anywhere in the top 100 results. This is screwy.

[@techlore]

Because there are no videos. Channels without videos don't perform well in search. Try again 1-2 weeks into April

[@robertmartin8762]

Duck Duck Gone. Next

[@charlespatterson8412]

I dumped DDG because I don't need anyone else making decisions for me. You guys can do 'what you Like...' "It's a Free Country" - right?

[@jeana8224]

What do u use now ?

[@charlespatterson8412]

@@jeana8224 I'll use Startpage until they get big enough to 'Sell us all out' then I'll hop off them and find another. ENTROPY is real, and "Rust NEVER Sleeps."

[@jeana8224]

@@charlespatterson8412 they were bought by an ad company isn't it ?

[@charlespatterson8412]

@@jeana8224 The Data these companies gather on each user is the Prize. Our DATA has more valie than our dwindling Estate! THIS Whole Generation (ALL ages) has been quadruple Mortgaged, Credit default swapped and converted into Derivative value to be used as 'betting chips' in the Largest and most significant Poker Game in History!

[@reneanclin4036]

Biased and politically biased is not the same thing, i need my search engine to discriminate, true, but not to discriminate by political opinion. DuckDuckGone.

[@yeahyeahyeahyeah1111]

I knew duck duck go was compromised once I started seeing ads being tailored to my previous searches

[@AlwaysFknSalty]

DDG Lost me. I use Brave search now because of their political choices.

[@АнатолийАнатолий-п1д]

On the topic of DDG. Filtration can be of different kinds. The fact that the primary goal of search engines is to filter content does NOT mean that ANY kind of filtration is what every search engine is supposed to do. Example: [user searches]$ 'russian news' -> Search engine that is focused more on showing the most relevant content than the most accurate shows the user major websites for Russian news, even if they spread misinformation, because that's what the user asked for -> Search engine that is focused more on showing the most accurate quality content than the most relevant down-ranks websites with low-quality content and may even show foreign websites with news ABOUT Russia You see the problem? The 'unbiased' search is the search that focuses on relevance, trusting the user to know and check the content for accuracy. The biased search (or of the types of biased searches) focuses on accuracy more than on relevance, which makes it a nanny that tries to teach the user to consume only quality content. I'm not saying the latter is a bad thing in itself, if the user subscribed to it willingly, but DDG was promoted as an unbiased search, which implies it should also not be biased against low-quality content when the user requests it. And yes, down-ranking is soft censorship. If you don't want the users to consume the info you don't like and for that you down-rank it, down-ranking is a censorship tool. If it didn't work in such a way that users consume less stuff that you disagree with, it wouldn't even have been used in this case. Because the PRIMARY GOAL is to censor, don't delude yourself defining censorship by methods instead of the goal.

[@MadsterV]

up you go. There are some people pretending that every search engine is biased, to justify theirs. Just like they pretend everyone else does the other bad things they do.

[@TheVariousA]

💯

[@Simon-ug2vb]

Qwent search is a French search engine what that means that its operates under French law witch is much more censorius

[@kueacybtguicyregfibubkueacybax]

Great episode, shame on ddg though, was the only alternative search engine that had decent seo and loading times

[@kjbrocky]

Odysee is very glitchy.

[@buddysdz]

And slow/heavy.

[@AcidiFy574]

Sooooooooooo, When R U gonna start uploading to "Surveillance Report" ???

[@videocreatorzz]

Duck duck Go has always been a profile 🤣😂 It has never revealed it's inside: but now finally 😁

[@Altezza1999]

DuckDuckGo already has the issue of not being usable for pron.

[@dollydiddums7889]

Used the duck for a long time until one day it decided to turn on my location ... Bye bye ducky 👎

[@diidiileite1276]

Bye Bye duckduckgo you are gone for me.

[@TallStarlite]

Paypal also shared info with facebool !!

[@rollinkendal8130]

Good for DDG. I'm on their side. Good riddance to the jaded twirps.

[@readypetequalmers7360]

I don't understand how HTTPS asking a google server for DNS requests is a better way to go. I haven't heard much on the DNS HTTPS.

[@XSpImmaLion]

Agreed! The backlash, plus the marketing, makes no sense from start because any search engine will have inherent biases - like it or not - it's a search engine. Thinking how they are gonna present results of a search is basically all they do, so there isn't really a "non-biased" search engine - they all pass through sequences of filters and decisions on what should be shown first and last to some degree. It's their job. Even more unfortunate, they are all black boxes without any possibility for external audits and evaluations, so you need to always assume they have a whole bunch of biases introduced by developers, knowingly or not. On the other hand, it could also be said that the lack of transparency is one of those things that allows these search engines to work more or less independently. They will suffer threats and warnings from authoritarian regimes and whatnot, but as the methods aren't transparent or clear to the public, they end up with some leeway to work outside such constraints. But then, perhaps more importantly - it's Bing, Yahoo and well... was Yandex with an obfuscation layer, so it'll always have the inherent biases contained in those search engines in the first place. Other search engines will have the inherent biases of the ones they use, or of the original authors anyways. Prioritization of search results will always have some parameters that could be seen as cultural, commercial, political, ideological and whatnot. And this is also valid for all other search engines. Google and those that uses it, Brave, it doesn't matter. Censorship, manipulation, prioritization and de-prioritization... they exist in all search engines. I guess it's also worth noting - if we're talking about fake news, conspiracy theories, racist and sexist content, anti-LGBT, adult content, plus a whole host of other stuff - de-prioritization and censoring is definitely not new, it has always been there from the beginning, and all major search engines are doing it in some level, whether they announced it publicly or not. It's just part of balancing search results for relevance, fitting it to be in accordance to the search engine interested parties, and eliminating problematic content that will attract criticism. Search engines are not neutral, they are all businesses. They could be more or less pro privacy and security, but in the end, you are taking the black box word for it. There is so much complexity put into it that it becomes almost impossible for people to verify that sort of stuff independently. Another semi-related point of contention, people should also know that any search engine operating in certain countries with a censorship heavy government to the point of being part of law, they also comply with those. People got all up in arms about Google entering Chinese market (project Dragonfly was the name if I'm not mistaken), not many knew that Microsoft had been doing it for almost a decade when the controversy popped up. But despite huge worries and huge backlash at the time, with some outlandish claims thrown in, it really mattered little because despite Bing being in China almost since it's inception, it doesn't scratch the surface of Chinese own internal search engines. Baidu is their Google, no other search engine comes close. Google wouldn't really have a huge presence in China if it had entered the market back then. My guess it's likely be a bit above Bing if much nowadays, because when it comes to search engines, precedence is a huge point, plus Google does not have it's tentacles spread around as much in China as it has in western nations. Google's idea was to enter the market to at least have some level of influence, but that never materialized. gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share/all/china On the other hand, Russia has a heavy reliance on Google... Yandex is bottom tier bellow Bing. Just to note. I won't be the judge of what situation is better - Google compromising on western ideals and submitting to Chinese law to at least have a presence there, or just refusing to enter the market on principles - but just so people have a clearer idea on this - Google was never gonna "take the entire Chinese market" or have an overwhelming influence there in the first place, with or without compliance to censorship - because the Chinese market is not the western market. People often don't know or don't fully understand how different the Internet landscape is there, we just assume it's more or less similar to ours. But it isn't. It could as well be a different planet... the western giants all at most playing second fiddle for Chinese platforms, when not having almost zero presence and influence there. It's all the more significant when you consider almost a fifth of the world's population lives there... there's no bigger single market. So yeah... there ya go. o/

[@techlore]

Nice writeup.

[@vasilestan]

Everyone goes to yandex

[@chrisjenkins9978]

Dump Dump Go Go. 😜

[@ecwnikos]

nathen sucks his new oil is recycle lol jk

[@armandomori2333]

Yea for now I will go back to the Brave browser or does any one have any suggestions ?

[@person-fy8kd]

Yah I can go back to red rocks again. (I live in Colorado)

[@ArtOfHealth]

This is very funny. When I typed what Henry said about “Nathan” in jest, you guys or KZbin AI deleted my printed words but not your spoken words. What gives?

[@techlore]

KZbin.

[@ArtOfHealth]

@@techlore Thank you. It has been bothering me ever since. Are you familiar with the Social Dilemma? Those men and folks are training people to be Humane Technologists. Writing code for sites to discourage violence or threats, etc. I think Jigsaw, from Google does stuff like this. The future looks daunting. Do NOT give up!

[@yeetyeet7070]

In all of EU anonymous phone numbers are illegal :(

[@yeetyeet7070]

tho in eastern EU it's less orwellian

[@buddysdz]

??? Do you have a source link about this information?

[@yeetyeet7070]

​@@buddysdz Buddy, try registering a Phone number in the EU without doxing yourself, your family, and your dog. Look, it might not be explicitly illegal, you could for instance acquire a sim-card through a company - even a shell company - which could grant you some anonymity. As an private entity however, you will have to dox yourself every time.

[@buddysdz]

@@yeetyeet7070 No, in France, I can buy a pre-paid SIM card with cash without doxing myself, and recharge the phone plan with "tickets" also bought with cash.

[@InappropriateShorts]

The new oil deepfaked techlore

[@dertythegrower]

Don't scope the Jake Tran last 8 documentaries whatever ya do 🤐

[@hrq77777]

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Shame on DuckDuckGo.

[@jerryyager2601]

I will drop them like a hot potato if this is the case.

[@scottmiller2591]

Everyone I don't like is dis,- mal-, or mis-information.

[@FirstLast-cy8og]

dark week huh !

[@manowar2816]

Welcome to the new order. Thanks SS shuab

[@John.Doe-OG]

Gogle made similar announcements about 10 years ago. We know how that turned out. Bye bye Duck Duck Go

[@realJohnJohn]

the want to own your face image... and not talking about being hacked

[@sm_stormzy1075]

dang

[@ArtOfHealth]

Great points