Dueling = Less Offended People? - Let's Look at History!

[@Vaalin]

Skall's inbox after this video be like: "Dearest Mr. Skallagrim, I find your historical and logical dissertation on the matter offending to the point that only a direct confrontation can restore my honour. We shall therefore fight to the death 1v1 on Hellish Quart".

[@johnree6106]

Nope it will more be like you sexist, racist, homophobic bigot.

[@Bruh-hq1hx]

@@johnree6106 thats the joke

[@lastwymsi]

At whensepoint we shall end this rightly. Bring your finest Pommel.

[@mikereger1186]

Pommels at dawn. To “eat brass before breakfast”.

[@johnree6106]

@@mikereger1186 if it's guns it be eat lead

[@lucasduque8289]

You dare tell me that duelling is dangerous and shouldn't be brought back? I challenge you to a duel, sir!

[@bemotivated8443]

It was so much simpler when you could simply shoot the person who made you mad

[@Assassin5671000]

@@bemotivated8443 And make his whole family come after you especially if it was a wealthy family

[@genesisacevedo1095]

@@Assassin5671000 good ol day

[@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933]

@@Assassin5671000 And then your family shelter you and come back with another duel against the offending family, starting a feud that lasts for generations

[@afielsch]

@@bemotivated8443 and more just than courts today...

[@ckl9390]

I image a lot of Canadians would have accidentally accepted duels by picking up a gauntlet that someone dropped, out of politeness.

[@BraveCat9927]

i would think canadian duels would be epic and only be for things that really matter. i mean hell they've been dueling moose and bears forever.

[@hellroach836]

Only so long as a puck isn’t involved. Then Canooks will throw down ALL the gauntlets.

[@anthonydelonga7181]

What's this aboot

[@charlottewalnut3118]

Nah it’s a moose joust on opening day of hockey season over beaver tails

[@BUZZKILLJRJR]

I'm sure it happened ALOT . "Oh look you dropped your glove bud."

[@MikaelKKarlsson]

If dueling was a thing today, retail workers like myself would never get old.

[@shadow-monger5189]

People would certainly be more polite.

[@austinjesse8418]

what i wouldn´t give to duel a rude customer just once

[@MikaelKKarlsson]

@@austinjesse8418 I hear you! But with the amount of people I've seen that would rather fight than admit their own fault, there's always the lucky shot/stab down the road. 😝

[@austinjesse8418]

@@MikaelKKarlsson true...besides i'm against violence...but sometimes...some customers really do bring out the rage lol

[@MikaelKKarlsson]

@@austinjesse8418 yeah some thrive on it too, like it's the best thing that day to argue nonsense. 😑

[@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699]

Girls: isn’t it weird how we live longer than boys? Boys: ok hear me out. so we make these hot air balloons...

[@davidweihe6052]

At that time, only nuns outlived men, on average. Guess why.

[@Yawyna124]

@@davidweihe6052 Killjoy. It was a joke, no reason to sulk around everywhere.

[@branlopgar]

@@davidweihe6052 Yes, thanks a lot, buzzkill. Appreciate the corrections in our history lesson

[@MissPoplarLeaf]

Testosterone is a hell of a drug!

[@johnrockwell5834]

Gambling is a male trait.

[@KirkWilliams300]

“I’m offended by the fact that you are a better duelist, we need to equalize the playing field”

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

get good son!

[@KirkWilliams300]

@@Red_Lanterns_Rage “well what is it” emote spam

[@readalotknowalot]

@@KirkWilliams300 as long as you don't point down I'll be fair! Otherwise get ready for a hornet ring!

[@Mister-Six]

Learn to duel is ye olde saying of learn to code.

[@ahel4523]

Fine I'll give you an extra pommel in lieu of a spear so you can try to end me twice.

[@CSGraves]

'We need a new hospital...' 'No!' (takes shot to spine) 'How about now?'

[@QNAAJTUJPRWJSGEZLPXYECAZFHODYW]

Underrated comment

[@CSGraves]

@@QNAAJTUJPRWJSGEZLPXYECAZFHODYW merci señor

[@Dethmeister]

Depends on if there was a vacant room at the old hospital for him.

[@elisecunliffe1123]

Healthcare pls - that guy probably

[@ronytheronin7439]

You have pretty good arguments kind sir

[@KaiserAfini]

"We shall meet at dawn to satisfy this debt of honor" "Make it so, and the weapons ?" "Halberds" "Halberds at dawn it is, good day to you sir !"

[@Bruh-hq1hx]

*Throws halberd into the other guys chest*

[@gakuyax]

Modern dueling is in court. And your champion are your expensive lawyers.

[@1hatep1ck1ngnames]

Sad but true. As before, those with power/money can afford to have champions.

[@777MrTibbs]

I rather have a pistol.

[@lawrencemorris2261]

That's disgusting. Bring real dueling back.

[@brandonhey7797]

@@777MrTibbs Same. A good old-fashioned flintlock never hurt anybody.

[@whitewolf3051]

Let’s bring back old dueling, but instead of weapons, card games, like the anime Yu Gi Oh.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

Skallagrim, dressed today like a character in a Pirate novel

[@r3zaful]

Vampire is the best way to describe him tbh

[@ashleycarvell7221]

That's my waifu you're talking about sir!!

[@viniciussardenberg6420]

that mr Price was a classic bully who wanted to humiliate the officer and it backfired hilariously

[@Yawyna124]

WhEn WoRdS aNd AcTiOnS hAvE cOnSeQuEnCeS pEoPlE pUt MoRe ThOuGhT iNtO wHaT tHeY dO!

[@alisas2262]

backfired, heh

[@anthonypolonkay2681]

@@Yawyna124 Thing about it is duels weren't super common. Were getting examples of the dumb reasons some people did duels here because it's a video about dueling. These things would not have been the norm. And looking in hindsight it's going to be the easiest to find accounts of outrageous duels because those stand out the most. I'm not sure if bringing dueling back is a good idea But because those potential consiquences were there most people tended to avoid them. It worked.

[@guywithdacap4713]

It backfired and for a brief moment he looked a bit peculiar. His mind was blown.

[@Pazuzu4All]

@@anthonypolonkay2681 Depends where and when you are talking about it. In some places, like in the American South during the antebellum period, it was very common. Part of the reason it was so common is because they rarely ended in death, partially because the pistols of the day were often unreliable and partially because most of us aren't born killers. The death rate would be much higher today using our modern technology, as our pistols are way better.

[@reythom6436]

Can we talk about this flawless french-spoken bit ? I'm french and was honestly surprised, that's quite impressing of you.

[@Skallagrim]

I learned French in high school, long time ago... Can't speak it anymore but at least I remember the basic pronunciation.

[@reythom6436]

@@Skallagrim Seems it was worth it in the end then (at least a little) !

[@deathangellink]

@@Skallagrim good job my dear, your pronunciation is spot on

[@windhelmguard5295]

@@reythom6436 knowledge itself is its own reward.

[@reythom6436]

@@windhelmguard5295 Should we argue about that ?

[@Agent719]

I always heard it more as "people would be more polite". But I think it's more "people would find pettier things to be offended by".

[@iapetusmccool]

Also a risk of "people who want to murder someone 'getting offended' so they have an excuse to do so".

[@Seelenschmiede]

"I was offended by his lack of being white!" No, such things wouldn't happen...

[@NinJestre]

Or someone setting other people up to duel

[@torg2126]

@@NinJestre Honor Harrington style assassination

[@ScottKenny1978]

Y'all really need to go read the Code Duello, that's not how it worked (usually).

[@ep4205]

The best duel I have ever read about occurred in Lyons, MI in the early 1840s. A local settler's joking antics insulted the honor of a "gentleman" in the town. The gentleman made the mistake of challenging the settler to a duel meaning the settler had the right to choose weapons. He requested potatoes saying something to the effect of "...we shall throw potatoes at each other until your honor is satisfied." Disappointingly, the duel was ultimately called off. I found this incidentally while using the Pioneer Society of the State of Michigan document collection for unrelated historical research.

[@silentassassin47]

interesting

[@TheKwakzalver]

I know that its been 2 years since this was posted but I have to ask, What volume was this in? I would love to read about this in more detail.

[@AnnaCurser]

"I fired, but I missed, I fired again, but I missed. I had a popsickle and passed out in the snow. When I woke up, I fired. I hit something, but it wasn't what I was going for, so I guess I missed."

[@FeroxDeitas]

Nice GG reference, my dude

[@janpatka3303]

What is this quote? Sounds like it's taken from something I would be interested in.

[@moritamikamikara3879]

@@janpatka3303 Game grumps IIRC. Just search "Game grumps, fired and missed" I think that's what this is. Although I just watched this in an animation, I've never seen Game grumps at all.

[@warped_rider]

Damn, forgot how funny that gag was.

[@MRJTD99]

Reads like Hemmingway

[@Not_A-Bear]

If dueling comes back, I’ll need to lose weight. I’m too big a target.

[@CrudeConduct666]

I'd definitely duel the BATF

[@whitewolf3051]

Or we could replace weapons with card games, like the anime Yu Gi Oh.

[@whitewolf3051]

@@ItsJustaMeNow Safer than with weapons, besides even some adults who grew up with some of these still play them for fun.

[@whitewolf3051]

@@ItsJustaMeNow Never bothered or knew of parodies, so didn't get the reference.

[@l.o.b.2433]

"Maybe now people would duelling over who has the better waifu" Now that's absolutely ridiculous. It would be a blood feud.

[@iamalpharius3959]

Yeah. At least a couple people would die over anime arguments in general.

[@TheExecutorr]

Civil War, is that what you want?

[@johnree6106]

Nope because everyone should know that I have the best waifu

[@tektrixter]

It's ridiculous because everyone knows that Lifts-Her-Tail is the best waifu

[@Slash-XVI]

@@l.o.b.2433 I can't beat the shit out of you without getting closer

[@akaviri5]

So, since duelling was actually outlawed most of the time, doesn't that mean we wouldn't even need to change the law to "bring it back" ?

[@iapetusmccool]

It was outlawed, but so socially acceptable that it was almost impossible to convict anyone unless they had e.g cheated or abused the concept of fuelling for their advantage. So I suppose "bringing it back" would require making it acceptable enough that a judge could be expected to rule "You haven't proven beyond reasonable doubt that the man that the defendant allegedly wounded in a duel is the same person as the identically named man who turned up in hospital later that day with sword wounds. Case dismissed".

[@r3dp9]

A lot of "gang violence" and "street violence" is basically just dueling, with less rules. Same goes for the average bar fight.

[@grayscribe1342]

The thing is, today it's too easy to get innocent bystanders involved. So if it became a thing again, they better put laws and rules in place because, as history has shown us, people won't stop duelling just because it's against the law. Bullets never cared if they went too far and hit an innocent after all. If you live at a coast, you could just do it in international waters anyway.

[@KnightofAges]

Correct. For example, in Europe the last duel took place in France 1967, between the mayor of Marseille, Gaston Deffere, and Rene Ribiere. It took place in the gardens of a private residence and was filmed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2ebn6h3mLiojbM That said, in South America pistol duels at 12 paces were still common between military officers into the mid 1970s. I remember when I was a kid that the officers would go into the woods with their seconds for the fight. Many times the satisfied party would shoot into the air. Other times... not so.

[@jongustavsson5874]

@@r3dp9 And the average barfight is mostly socially accepted, never once heard of the authorities involved in one around where I live.

[@jameswhite153]

does anyone remember the episode of blackadder where he had to duel the duke of wellington and the duke turns up with artillery?

[@dougmartin2007]

I'm thinking of when Mark Twain was challenged and declared "cannons at 10 paces". The duel was cancelled.

[@lolaldanee2743]

I don't, but it sounds smart

[@cobraglatiator]

to be fair, i kinda want to see a duel w/ howitzers or mortars. have fuckin whole teams trying to figure out where the other guy is, you have one person on one side of the lake,the other on the other, and- heh heh.

[@jameswhite153]

@@cobraglatiator better yet, explicitly ban any one with any experience with artillery from taking part, and just watch the hilarity ensue.

[@cobraglatiator]

@@jameswhite153 HAHA YES. well, maybe no any experience? they should know how to load it, but only those most very basic operations, nothing else. know anymore ya can't.

[@chabri2000]

True gentlemen, duels in children cards games. Just like ancient egyptian and motorcyclist

[@ronytheronin7439]

Time to ddddddddddduel!

[@gosonegr]

We should bring duels back, not to kill but just for fun. I mean, just think about it, a bar with a 12 steps corridor, one shot paintball guns, mask and a heavy coat. It hurts a bit but nothing serious. As a bar game would be epic.

[@themorrigan1312]

Yes! Or even just like, airsoft guns or heavily modified nerf blasters as substitutes

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_duelling Bring this back! Cool as hell.

[@gosonegr]

@@penttikoivuniemi2146 There's a video about those at Forgotten Weapons channel. The problem with those is the bore and the use of gunpowder (wich you can replace with CO2 easily nowadays), making it illegal in most European contries.

[@Riceball01]

@@themorrigan1312 For this application a paintball gun would be better since there's no way for someone to claim that they weren't hit. Unless you have a bad quality paintball that doesn't break or breaks in the barrel, the paint splatter, or lack thereof, is an obvious mark showing if someone got hit or not. To make it even more of a sure thing, you provide jackets with plates on them so that the balls are guaranteed to break on impact.

[@nirfz]

The problem is, the biggest *beep* who constantly seeks out a quarrel and thus challenges the most people will become the best at it. (enough practice) And will become even more unbareable for the rest of the population boasting everywhere how many duels he won...

[@carloscaro9121]

Idiots: "People weren't as offended back in the day..." Historical folks: "You oppose my policy about this hospital? You were taking a look at this woman who was accompanying me? FIGHT ME TO THE DEATH!"

[@trexpaddock]

I believe the phrase is, "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."

[@thisaccountisntreal107]

The prize to win here is survival The guy losing the duel gets the stupid prize

[@trexpaddock]

@@thisaccountisntreal107 Often times, they both died.

[@trapperscout2046]

@@trexpaddock In that case, they both lose and win stupid prizes.

[@joe125ful]

Lol no:)

[@Medved725]

@@thisaccountisntreal107 So the winner gains nothing? They would've lived to see another day if they hadn't dueled in the first place.

[@littleowl6807]

“How do you miss a hot air balloon?” She said as her and her significant other plummeted to the ground.

[@Emelefpi]

He got a '1' on his attack roll

[@cameronpekelder4055]

@@Emelefpi If he rolled a one he probably shot his own balloon

[@Grabehn42]

"Don't be a jackass, just apologize and move on" That was basically law and people were still peer pressured or outright chose to shoot eachother. I dunno if it's that much different nowadays.

[@paulchapman8023]

9:00 they mention this in “Hamilton” too. The first of the Ten Duel Commandments is “If they apologize, no need for further action.”

[@Buzterer]

I actually blame dueling pistols for the decline in dueling

[@Skallagrim]

Reading accounts of duels and rules of conduct it seems they preferred pistols over swords because they deemed it more civilized. In the best case scenario both miss and agree that honor is satisfied. Best case scenario with swords is at least one bleeding wound.

[@gabork5055]

@@Skallagrim They should have used lightsabers instead since that's the most civilised.

[@pRahvi0]

@@gabork5055 _An elegant weapon for a more civilized age._

[@Obmenistrator]

​@@Skallagrim I assume that pistols were evening the ground for an untrained person. All you had to do is to point and click, and the duel was over.

[@whitewolf3051]

If dueling comes back, we better use card games, such as the one used in Yu Gi Oh.

[@danieltilson4053]

Strictly speaking... Being willing to stab somebody in the face over an insult sounds pretty offended to me.

[@Nerobyrne]

yeah that's what I don't get when people say "oh yeah back in the olden days people didn't get offended over words", and I'm just like "bro what?"

[@Arbbal]

The problem solved it'self. If someone was easily offended either they became an amazing fighter, died, or were injured and rethought their views in life. Also, people learned to not intentionally offend others, and apologize if they did by accident. You didn't have trolls when death was a possible consequence of antagonizing someone. As they saying goes, "A well armed society is a polite society."

[@Ranstone]

@@Arbbal Firearm sub-reddit: *Autistic screeching* Actual gun range: "𝔚𝔥𝔶, 𝔶𝔢𝔰 ℑ 𝔡𝔬 𝔞𝔭𝔭𝔯𝔢𝔠𝔦𝔞𝔱𝔢 𝔶𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔭𝔬𝔦𝔫𝔱 𝔰𝔦𝔯, 𝔟𝔲𝔱 ℑ 𝔪𝔶𝔰𝔢𝔩𝔣 𝔣𝔢𝔢𝔩 𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔣𝔦𝔡𝔢𝔫𝔱 𝔴𝔦𝔱𝔥 𝔪𝔶 .45 𝔱𝔥𝔞𝔫 𝔶𝔬𝔲𝔯 9𝔪𝔪, 𝔟𝔲𝔱 𝔶𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔞𝔯𝔤𝔲𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱 𝔦𝔰 𝔦𝔫𝔱𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔲𝔦𝔫𝔤."

[@ThornForTheWynn]

@@Ranstone As an autistic person, could you please not use my disability as an insult? Thanks!

[@siukong]

@@Arbbal you still had trolls they just were far more subtle about it

[@zephyrerazortail5478]

About the rules thing, 11th Doctor (Doctor Who) has an awesome quote Madame Kovarian: "The anger of a good man is not a problem. Good men have too many rules." Doctor: "Good men don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many." Matt Smith really nailed the delivery in that scene.

[@umbraelegios4130]

Two fun facts: 1. In the early days of the state of Kentucky two Legislators got in an argument on the floor, they challenged each other to a duel. Since dueling was illegal in the state they crossed the river to the next state over to have the duel. 2. Kentucky state law requires holders of certain jobs/offices to swear an oath "That I have not fought a duel, nor have I acted as a second in carrying a duel in the stare of Kentucky".

[@JPelus]

I wish people were more worried about being honorable, rather than being treated as though they were.

[@Ranstone]

I was going to type "AMEN!" with the word "freaking" in between syllables for emphasis, but then it reads as "A freaking men" and that sounds like you're talking about men. :|

[@Serahpin]

As a former Naval Petty Officer, I can say that most civilians have absolutely no concept of honor.

[@annaairahala9462]

I'm kinda glad we've been moving on from that as well. There are good things to it, but at the same time it has been taken to the extreme quite often, such as honour killings

[@shawnwolf5961]

@@Serahpin As a former Army Specialist, I say by that very statement you slightly shame yourself as a respectful military member.

[@marocat4749]

You dont gain your honor is stupid fights, but by growing up and grow from it. Ask zuko. Humbleness is underrrated, and diplomacy.

[@dogmaticpyrrhonist543]

What's always baffled me is that there are people out there that think someone being offended at them and politely telling them so is somehow worse than someone being offended by them and challenging them to a duel.

[@JonnyBlayz]

“A Duel” is just a fancy way of saying “A Punch On”.

[@TreeGod.]

“a punch on” is another fancy way of saying “catch this fade”

[@YaBoiDREX]

@@TreeGod. “catch a fade” is just a fancy way of saying “run these hands”

[@Ultr4l0f]

My favourite is vikings. A dude I know posted a meme with a viking saying "Oh, I offended you? How does it feel to be so weak that words can hurt you." (yeah, he is a Fedora dude in disguise) The fun bit? There were literal laws that if someone called you f*ggot (atleast the "receiver" in the sexual act) you could take it to court and they could give you the right to kill the other dude to defend your honor.

[@Skallagrim]

Yeah, the Vikings had odd standards... It was basically okay to have sex with another guy, as long as you're not the one taking it. Anyway, it sure is telling how often the sagas describe shit going down because someone's honor was offended.

[@ragiironshield]

When I was younger, I was very much sold on the idea of bringing back judicial dueling to discourage people from messing with each other. As I've aged and converted to Dudeism, that just sounds like a lot of increased, unnecessary, unchecked aggression.

[@ecthelionalfa]

Skall looking like a fine vampire

[@prpunk187]

Remindes me of Type O Negative lol

[@SysterYster]

Indeed. Very fine vampire. :3

[@toonbat]

Other people in the comments said he was dressed like a pirate. But let's not duel over it. Vampirate it is!

[@SysterYster]

@@toonbat I can accept this.

[@prpunk187]

What is a man? [flings his wine glass aside] A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you!

[@fettmaneiii4439]

these are darwin awards.

[@Serahpin]

Net Positive!

[@-42-47]

I'm offended, I hereby challenge you for a Darwin award.

[@hatakegon5922]

Hearing these stories reminded me of all the times I have been challenged into a 1v1 in video games.

[@jean-christophearsenault2104]

"Be polite to each other, even though you don't have to fear for your life." Wow.

[@siamsasean]

Gentleman's Blood is a great book! I worked at the original California Renaissance Faire. We'd do three weekends of workshops and rehearsals before the faire opened. One year a lawyer gave a workshop about Elizabethan law, and he pointed out that trial by combat had got on the books of several states because they were old English colonies. Well the last time trial by combat was invoked in the States was sometime in the 1980's, I think in one of the Carolinas or Virginia. A guy in the SCA got sued, found out the law was still on the books, went into court with a gauntlet and a sword, layed them down on the desk and said, "I believe so much in my cause that I will defend it with my life. I call for trial by combat." The judge informed the plaintiff that, yep, put up or shut up. The plaintiff withdrew their case, and the first thing the state legislature did when they convened was get rid of that law.

[@christiandeguzman992]

It's time to D-DD-Duel!!!

[@tigershark8867]

Deadly Duel December

[@alfatazer_8991]

Ah yes, nothing more honourable then a Children's Card Game...

[@hunterotte4085]

Judge: "Loser goes to the shadow realm." Guy unfamiliar: "w-what?..." Judge: "Hell, you're basically going to Hell."

[@whitewolf3051]

Using a card game if dueling was brought back would be the nicer and safer option, after all no one can send anyone to the shadow realm.

[@googleisacruelmistress1910]

The thing about dueling is that you can still challenge people to a fight, like a boxing match, if they offend you or you wish to settle an argument like that, they just probably won't agree to it, because why would they?

[@mcraig2465]

Because face-punch.

[@teeprice7499]

Yep, people are pretty chicken-shit. The run home and cry to mommy crowd seems to have won, for now

[@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933]

I mean, if I'm the one challenged I'd prefer to just accept. You know, for honor's sake

[@ronytheronin7439]

I wonder what would happen if one choses bare hands as a choice of weapons in the 16th century. Would they find it too barbaric?

[@NDOhioan]

@@ronytheronin7439 If I'm not mistaken, English boxing (the bareknuckle kind) had its roots in the 16th century. It wasn't unheard of for people to choose a boxing match as a way of settling disputes (in fact, famed pugilist Daniel Mendoza got his start as a champion for a shopkeeper he worked for.)

[@lai_strength_training]

People still challenge each other to "duels" in modern times via boxing/MMA matches.

[@frogman4700]

or magic the gathering card games, as was the case at my middle school

[@johnree6106]

@@frogman4700 what not pokemon

[@samarkand1585]

@sgt dornan I could, was boring

[@Dionyboz]

@@frogman4700 beyblade is the way

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@johnree6106 that's an animal fighting ring.

[@DocKatz]

You want to have an honored duel? Put on the mitts and step into the ring. There are plenty of other ways to challenge someone.

[@karenburrows9184]

Doctor Katz: Nothing honourable about it. Two idiots giving each other brain damage for the profit of others. Barbaric and stupid.

[@thepunishersequence291]

I agree with you on that one

[@DocKatz]

@@karenburrows9184 ...Who said profit? We're talking about a dual... An that's why I also incorporated, "There are plenty of other ways to challenge someone". Ever hear of the Olympics?

[@otm1008]

love your videos man, seriously underrated. I dont typically finish videos entirely because Ill get bored, but I always watch and finish yours, theyre always entertaining. Thank you and keep it going!

[@niflheimsoundtrack1741]

- "He seems like a younger version of Hector Barbossa" My girlfriend when she saw you in this video. PS: she says it is meant as a compliment.

[@shkeni]

Long story short: Edgelords are terrible in all eras.

[@Dionyboz]

How dare you? I challenge you to a duel.

[@donface5142]

@@Dionyboz I'll bare witness if I can choose the weapon.

[@bemotivated8443]

At least back then you could shoot each other

[@donface5142]

@@bemotivated8443 the good 'ole days

[@Dionyboz]

@@donface5142 let me guess pommel?

[@zerodyne5333]

I'm from Philippines and the duels to the death were common until recently. The amount of people getting offended over the most minor sleights to their "honour" tells me that no, people wouldn't calm down if duelling was legalized.

[@natespring2183]

I'm writing a story that has a lot of combat with medieval-era weaponry and your channel has helped me so incredibly much to understand how these weapons work, how they're used, and how some of the matchups go. I love your channel, have a great day and I hope you find an exceptionally kind person out and about soon!

[@nicolaiveliki1409]

There's still a duelling subculture in central europe: fencing fraternities. I used to be in one, and as a rite of passage, they have to duel someone from another fencing fraternity. They can also challenge each other to duels by exchanging a torn business card (usually only do that when there's a major beef)

[@alexandermartinez1318]

Damn! Mr Price got what he deserved! That all sounds like a movie ending!

[@bensul9979]

man, while listening the whole story I was thinking "this would be an awesome movie" xD

[@syllogism5843]

@@bensul9979 Not quite Onyegin, but similar

[@matthewhenthorn3343]

I once trained myself up to duel someone for the hand of a woman. It was an interesting tale to tell when practising and training. Before you ask, she dumped him and lost interest in me before I was able to throw down the gauntlet.

[@Wardogindustries]

Hot take: Those calling for duels in the modern age are just as easily offened as the people they claim are two easily offended.

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

They probably are otherwise they wouldn't think bloodshed is a worthwhile compared to some people getting triggered.

[@a-blivvy-yus]

This is reply number "two" just like how easily offended people are in the modern world, duels or no.

[@merendell]

Or just want a way to shut the annoying bastards up. Some of them will follow you around shouting at you for hours because of some slight you were not even aware of, secure in the knowledge that you cant legaly stop them. Like skall said duels didn't stop people from being offended, it just raised the cost. Sometimes folks need their attitudes to cost them something before they'll be polite.

[@a-blivvy-yus]

@@merendell Actually most countries have laws against stalking/pursuing/harassing other people, and a person walking around SHOUTING for hours at a time would at the very least be liable for disrupting the peace or an equivalent crime in most civilised countries even if they're not actively targeting a particular person for abuse.

[@McCheese-xc9ig]

@@merendell Right, if dueling was brought back, instead of following you around shouting, they'd be following you around and throwing gloves at you. Gosh golly, what an improvement that would be.

[@Elite7555]

"Sorry dude, here is the evidence that you are wrong." "You are calling me a liar? I challenge you to a duel." And at that moment, the enlightenment died.

[@Thane36425]

We essentially still have dueling, it is just usually brawls in bars, road rage, etc. This is more or less how it would go today. Lots of dude bros, thugs, etc., would take advantage to harass people more, though probably not people who they thought could beat them. There was probably a lot of that back in the day and "professional" duelists who made a career of it.

[@Bruh-hq1hx]

Well both sides need to say yes first

[@Seelenschmiede]

@@Bruh-hq1hx when your family, friends and coworkers bully you into saying Yes, it isn't a free decision... "Say Yes darling! I can't be married to a coward!"

[@fistsofsnake5475]

@@Seelenschmiede Social presure. Good point.

[@blakeprocter5818]

@@Seelenschmiede Oh man, that opens up a whole new can of worms. Imagine gold diggers pressuring their husbands into getting into a duel with the hope that he dies, and get that money all the sooner.

[@grayscribe1342]

That's the thing, professional duellists only work with a set weapon type or the rule that the challenged one can choose the weapon. In the latter case they are essentially paid to insult someone until they get challeneged so they have the advantage.

[@TurtleChad1]

A Turtle approved

[@Metaphist]

I approve of your username.

[@notsans9995]

I approve of the nice soup you will make, co'mere

[@Ranstone]

I refuse to duel you. Your shell gives you an advantage.

[@bluffkirschman599]

@@Ranstone then get a pommel, you will win all duels

[@Ballistic_Turtle]

Noice.

[@WheresMyOatmen]

I like these history focused, sit down videos. This one was very good and I like the outfit!

[@Archontasil]

5:27 is that the royal insignia of canada? beaver on top of a peackock screaming?? that's so cute

[@treelee2602]

Not the whole country. Just Montreal

[@noraye2500]

Here in the US, we have several states that have Mutual Combat laws Basically if two parties agree to a Mutual Combat, and there is a police officer there to referee, then two people can have a legal street fight to settle a dispute. It's not a common thing that's practiced but it has happened somewhat recently. So Im all for this to become common practice again in public.😎

[@rhel373]

Anyone who's ever been in a schoolyard fight, or a bar brawl or whatever should know that a) we still kind of have duelling and b) it doesn't solve shit. With that said, the aesthetics of it are still incredibly cool. ;)

[@andrewbutton2039]

I thought you might have said the increasing accuracy of firearms as a reason why dueling declined.

[@ScottKenny1978]

I think it was reliability more than accuracy, though 12 paces is 60ft/20yards and a pretty long shot with a pistol.

[@thelonerider9693]

@@ScottKenny1978 I imagine both had something to do with it but neither occurred in a vacuum; the advancements in weapons technology were also accompanied by changes to society. Re: accuracy I have read that for at least part of the time that pistol dueling was in fashion, it was considered unethical to use rifled pistol barrels precisely because the greater accuracy was considered cheating.

[@shadekeigarblacksky]

Let's see how shocked they'd be if I threw the pommel before the gauntlet.

[@Ranstone]

Geneva prohibits.

[@Bruh-hq1hx]

@@Ranstone The UN cries out *Silence* the nations involved in war in any kind of way scream out

[@astranix0198]

@@Ranstone More like suggests.

[@chopinbloc]

I think the implied point is that the kind of people who get easily offended would die in duels so there would be fewer offended people.

[@fistsofsnake5475]

Only if they would fight other ofended people not aganist people who they claime offend them.

[@FarseerOfCearath]

"For that purpose, two identical hot air balloons were made..." Alright, I'm lucky I'm at home now, or people would think I've gone nuts... You got a full on Scandinavian "Höhöhö!" laugh out of me there.

[@gwennblei]

Damn I'm always impressed by your French accent ^^ Beautiful video once more, although I'm not sure your point fully stands, as the ancient society tended to value honor above life, or at least close to it, especially in the military class, where as modern society often deems it stupid, and tends to value life above anything. So even if it was lawful again, I think people would be much more hesitant to accept or offer a duel. Also it should be pointed out that it wasn't just young men carried on by testosterone. The last duel I'm aware of happened in France in 1968 with swords between two members of Parliaments who had insulted each other during an assembly. Gaston Deferre was 57 and his opponent René Ribière was 45. The archive of the video of the duel is on youtube if anyone's interested btw.

[@C0deH0wler]

The fact they would go to such lengths means they were even more offended.

[@quique7764]

I get a feeling the ppl who say dueling should still be a thing would be the first ppl killed or simply would cop pleas if challenged to one.

[@ScottKenny1978]

FFS, the point of the Code Duello was to get someone to apologise for talking shit without having to beat/stab/shoot them.

[@Ranstone]

In the US Marine corps boot camp there's this thing called pugil sticks.It's basically bayonet training with padded sticks. The videos online seem tame, but once the cameras are off, the DIs tell the recruits they get phone calls home if they can knock people unconscious or break bones. (One guy got his femur literally _splintered_ in half when he got stuck in the planks they were standing on.) Anyway, by 2n'd phase, many recruits have gotten so much on each-other's nerves and formed such vendettas against specific platoon members that the DI's allow recruits to fight who they want, if it's mutual. It's in every sense a duel. And while not to the death, if you break specific bones in your opponent, he can likely be discharged from service, so if you hate him enough and he hates you, you're literally fighting for your entire future trying to maim each-other. I've done HEMA all my life. Nothing prepares you for that. Absolutely nothing. Funnest crap on the planet though.

[@firewing1319]

I would have enjoyed it more had my helmet not been so big all I could see was the inside of the rim covering my eyes. Not fun when you can’t see.

[@Ranstone]

@@firewing1319 I?!? I?!? I?!? "THIS RECRUIT"!!!!!! The good old days. :)

[@shawnwolf5961]

You realize pugils aren't just a marine thing right? I know ya'll like to take credit for the other branches' work and all, but the Army has pugils too.

[@sylvain7277]

Man you should make more historical videos like that, you are very articulate and that kind of topic is interesting. And thanks for taking the time to learn how to pronounce french names. :D I know your focus is on weapons but there are tons of related everyday life topics that might interest people, like craftsmanship, materials, hunting, food, transport, armies, religions, etc etc etc... Think about talking about the Edda and other texts ; personaly I've read them, and I think lots of people might be fascinated by them but simply have no idea they exist. Just throwing some suggestions here, Salut.

[@schwaaard]

Great video! Thank you for exploring the history and logistics of a practice I knew very little about. (And I love it when popular phrases like “throw down the gauntlet” are better understood when misconceptions or historical inaccuracies are brought to light.) I do, however, think there would be less offended people if dueling was implemented. If declaring, “I take great offense to what you said!” was automatically a challenge that invited the offender to settle things in person and with possibly violent results, I’d wager fewer people would choose to take offense. Bearing in mind that the accused could opt to ignore the offended (if they were somehow able to weather the vicious catcalls of “chicken!” and other such horrific barbs), the only time there would actually be a conflict is if the offender cared enough about the accusation to pursue action. As long as a fight was not legally required upon a declaration of offense, I think most level-headed folks would just ignore the offended and let them rant and rave on their preferred social platform. The fact is that many folks who so quickly and easily take offense do so behind the protection of anonymity, safely tucked behind their keyboards or touchscreens. Most of said folks would be chagrined if the internet (and by extension, friends and family) knew who they were, and they would be mortified if someone they had antagonized/called out knew where they lived. I’m guessing that if saying, “I take offense!” meant that the accused was given that person’s identity and address for the purpose of satisfying the duel, we would see a drastic decline in what seems to have become something of an addiction for many folks. And for those who are already in the public eye, such as celebrities, their level of responsibility will be raised to that of the level of their influence-a balance that does not currently exist. Right now, taking offense costs nothing, and for some reason it is assumed that an apology or some kind of restitution is in order. Taking offense is a choice, and acting on it by airing out the laundry for the public to see is another choice. If there were real-world consequences for those choices, I think people would give more consideration to their words. As was discussed in the video, dueling wasn’t always fatal-or didn’t need to be-and I think that could apply here as well. Heck, it could simply be a boxing match. Even that would be enough to make someone think, “Is boldly taking and declaring my offense worth the chance of losing a tooth or getting a broken nose?” Dueling would require there to be true conviction and legitimacy (or at least perceived legitimacy) behind an offense. Yes, there are people who purposefully antagonize with an attempt to offend, but many of the so-called offenses are not intended and in fact require obscene levels of misinterpretation or forced sensitivity to be interpreted as such. For those who would purposefully say things to rile or offend others, looking for an excuse to duel, they would find themselves being ignored with more frequency. People are willing to take the bait and engage in verbal jousting with overt antagonists via comments, but they would probably be less inclined to engage if there was a chance they could end up in a fight or duel with actual consequence. In essence, dueling-whether to the death, first blood, or some other outcome that creates a cost-could force people to put things in perspective and choose their battles with more care and tact. Considering most people today don’t seem to have the ‘death-before-dishonor’ mentality, I don’t think many duels would be accepted. The fact that you wouldn’t know who it is you are accusing or being bated by until after the gauntlet is thrown and accepted would also be a deterrent. I know personally there is nothing anyone could say that would cause me to declare offense, and anyone who would take offense to something I said would be summarily ignored. I’m not willing to sacrifice my time engaging in an on-line argument, let alone put my time, energy, resources, body, and possibly life on the line for a perceived slight. I don’t honesty know if I’d advocate dueling for offense, even in a non-lethal capacity. I think it has potential to silence a lot of self-righteous indignation and render trolls obsolete, but practical application is probably impossible, and the whole thing could go sideways somehow. Better to just let people rail in vain against any and all perceived slights, wasting their lives in pursuit of the adrenaline rush that comes from taking offense to anything they don’t agree with (or getting a rise out of others) than to try an implement some kind of antiquated system to force perspective.

[@DatBoiOrly]

Hold up wasn't dueling caused by people being offended by another person so bringing it back would only raise that.

[@alexkozliayev9902]

But those who easily offended either die from duel, or injured enough to reconsider their view on life

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

@@alexkozliayev9902 and that's a bad thing how?? if all of these SJW types had to face real people in a duel they'd show their dishonor by opting out and trying to get out of it but when the challenge doesn't die down and they're forced to pick up the rapier and they die.....well that's one way to get rid of the SJW's lolz

[@Skallagrim]

Don't forget, people getting hurt or even dying from ridiculous internet challenges didn't really put an end to that nonsense either.

[@davidbodor1762]

@@Red_Lanterns_Rage Implying the SJWs are offended and not you...you sound REAL offended by the mere existence of those people lol.

[@Yawyna124]

@@Red_Lanterns_Rage Yeah, no, you can't just force people into death fights. Even if duels were legal, if they decline you pursuing it further would be, you know, murder.

[@verbalbbq7976]

The “if duelling was back we’d have less offended people” has always sounded to me like an euphemism for: “I wish I was able to kill people I disagree with, with impunity”

[@endergolem9977]

I know. But honestly, I still want dueling.

[@JamesBiggar]

Pretty much, and the irony is that killing someone they simply disagree with would be the epitome of someone who's too easily offended.

[@Serahpin]

There are people who want us dead because they disagree with us. They are weak and cowardly and go about it legalistically, using our own systems against us. I would much prefer to be able to duel them and fix the problem instead of be slowly killed with my own tax dollars.

[@Nerobyrne]

the irony is that quite often, these are fat neckbeards, so I'd imagine a lot of them wouldn't fair too well. That or dumb meatheads, but they already go around solving every problem with their fists no nothing would change there.

[@terceirojogador]

That's where you are wrong, pal, the duel can only happen by with the consent of both sides

[@randallmusgrave5138]

"1v1 me black ops bro!"

[@Procyon2020]

The Sandbar Fight is an interesting one. The duel was pretty much over and after exchanging one shot the duellists shook hands but afterward a brawl erupted between the two parties resulting in the death of two supporters and various injuries to others. Even when some resolve the dispute sensibly there's some hotheads that want to keep things going to settle their own scores.

[@johnkeane6809]

There is an amazing account of a judicial duel in The Murder of Charles the Good by Galbert of Bruges. 12th Century. The duel ends with both combatants wrestling after pretty much exhausting all other options. The monk tries to dress up the final moments, but in essence a manual crushing of the groin decides the matter. In addition, there are some very interesting accounts of the mercenaries behavior during the siege, in particular Bekin the Archer who ends up particularly hated by the townsfolk. I highly recommend the account.

[@myronplatte8354]

A remnant of this kind of thinking continues into the modern day, minus the weapons and the death. If another guy insults you repeatedly, you’re expected to confront him, which is likely to lead to a fist fight. Even if you lose, you get better social standing for standing up to him.

[@ashtonstired]

dueling evolved into rap battles

[@Schlachti10]

Rap battles have actually been around since the 12th century. Just google flyting.

[@CSGraves]

@@Schlachti10 'Thy boast of mighty rhymes I dost not let pass, Verily will current times I visit on thy ass.'

[@matteocesa9017]

What about 1v1 on rust?

[@ishill85]

no way, those have been ongoing, haven't you seen any of the epic rap battles of history like; tesla vs edison or hitler vs darth vader.

[@linusmota9712]

Or drinking contests

[@leadpaintchips9461]

The "I wish duels could come back" crowd seems to forget that those being challenged can just say no to the duel.

[@ScottKenny1978]

Saying no led to being "posted" as someone who would run their mouth and then not take responsibility for their words. *With a note nailed to the door of the bar(s) and social clubs they hung out in that gave the story and requested people to not associate with such a person.*

[@leadpaintchips9461]

@@ScottKenny1978 in some places.

[@Stroggoii]

@@leadpaintchips9461 In most places. As mentioned in the video the culture behind dueling mattered more than the letter or the law around it and ostracizing was the consequence for being a liar and a coward. Having to prove your claims with evidence or lead would immediately cull cancel culture. Being able to demand reparation in blood would quickly cut down on cyberstalking, doxxing and catfishing. It's not a sensible thing to ask for but it shines a glaring spotlight on how inefficient modern law is that shooting someone under 14th century customs would solve the issue better than modern courts can.

[@leadpaintchips9461]

@@Stroggoii With how our current society is, it's just as easy to dunk on someone for wanting to go into a boxing ring as it is to dunk on someone who wants to do a duel. "Your fee fees got hurt, you poor snowflake !" "Guess your caveman brain couldn't handle advanced thought." etc. The global society as a whole has put much more emphasis on communication and thought than physical prowess. Duels honestly wouldn't do jack against your examples of what would be cut down, because those are done with anonymity. All dueling would do, would make those who are insecure have a socially acceptable means to physically harm another.

[@Stroggoii]

@@leadpaintchips9461 You still don't understand that dueling is not an action. It's a culture. The current situation is as it is because nobody cares about honor, truth, justice or common good. That's why there's disgusting people going out of their way to try and ruin other people's lives on the daily from the comfort of a computer screen and a falsified profile. In the cultural settings where dueling was a thing making false claims from anonymity wouldn't fly, as soon as you didn't show up to put steel behind your words your profile and all the poison written through it would be immediately dismissed as a coward's villainy and the slandered's honor reassured. Completely the opposite of what happens today where any accusation is accepted as fact, everyone you know runs like rats out of a sinking ship to avoid getting dragged down with the othered, and lawful resources are not only prohibitively costed but even if the court of law and Jesus Christs himself comes down to say you're innocent Twitter said you're a rapist/sexist/racist/voted wrong so you're it and you need to die in the streets unemployable and unpersoned.

[@stevenwarnock2334]

Another good video, sir. I am reminded of a book I once read concerning the reality of dueling in 19th Century America, especially out west. The showdown at high noon being mostly fiction was one of the items that I remember, but what stuck with me was a chapter concerning how some women engaged in dueling one another, and because blade and gun were generally frowned on for women to use, this one particular woman hit upon the idea of using poison. Basically, she had two pills made, one poisonous, the other not, and challenged her rival to death over tea. Each would select a pill, not knowing which was the poison pill and which wasn't and they'd take the selected pill with tea. The one who got up from the table would obviously be the winner. The lady challenged wasn't stupid enough to do this, and if I remember rightly law enforcement was soon involved. So, it wasn't just men who were stupid enough to endanger their lives for no good reason (by our modern standards).

[@pierosa1315]

You have some of the best French pronunciation from a native Anglophone on YT. Congratulations! And a great video!

[@vegtamthewanderer1516]

At 12:48, this happend in the early years of the US navy. One of the strangest duels was set into motion by an exchange of banter with stephen Decatur and Richard Somers in 1798, when both midshipmen serving on the frigate United States under captain Barry. The two of them were, by their own reckoning, inseparable friends, and as they were joking around in the wardroom one day, Decantur laughingly called Somers a "fool". Neither man thought anything of it until the next day, when several of their fellow officers refused to share the wardroom table with Somers. Having talked it over with themselves, They(they other officers) had agreed that Decantur's use of the term "fool" constituted as an insult, and that Somers must issue a challange or be ostracized as a coward. Somers and Decatur both protested that their bantering had been harmless. Decantur had not ment to suggest that Somers was not litteraly a fool, and Somers had not taken offense at the remark. Decantur offered to host the entire Wardroom at a dinner in which the exchange could be explained in fuller detail. Their messmates refused the invitation. Somer's expasperated response was to issue a challange, but not to Decantur. Nominating Decantur as his second, he challenged the other officers to fight him in sequence. The multiple challenge was accepted. In the first duel, Somers took a ball in his pistol arm; in the second, he took a ball in the thigh. Decantur offered to take his friends place for the third duel, but Somers refused. Bleeding heavily, Somers sat on the ground while Decantur propped up his pistol arm. After the third exchange of gunfire, all agreed that Somers had resolved any doubts of his courage and the buisness was called off.

[@Sousabird]

I mean, if you're good at dueling there probably would be.

[@otwk]

Now what if the "offended person" is good at dueling? It's funny how the people making the suggestion that dueling should return think of themself as a better duelist than whoever might be "offended".

[@nav3197]

@@otwk yes

[@BlankPicketSign]

"I am Offended and I Challange You! Pommels at Dawn!"

[@SmokeGrinder]

An intersting and enlightening examination of the history of dueling and the consequences if it was revived.

[@weirdandproudofit1]

I really love your newer videos, they're so much fun! And the outfit kills me every time

[@wingman4564]

The true point of dueling wasnt to keep people from being offended, but to keep people from talking shit.

[@alfatazer_8991]

Yet people still talked shit back then. They just did it in less upfront ways; still didn't stop people from getting offended.

[@ScottKenny1978]

It also gave an out for an unintentional offense, because the first step of the Code Duello was to request an apology. Not demand, request. A demand for apology was step 2, IIRC.

[@astranix0198]

@@ScottKenny1978 And sometimes even if step 2 as met people would just love to kill somebody

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@astranix0198 yes, there are psychopaths out there. But read the Code Duello, please... The person who gave offense is the one who has to agree to the duel, and has choice of weapons. *If they refused to duel, to fight them was attempted murder.*

[@andyinthegarden6898]

During this COVID bollocks it feels like some you tubers are my friends and keep me sane, thanks for that.

[@bigguy7353]

As a gigantic man of an armed security guard, you'd be surprised how nice and polite people are and sheer amount of truth-telling I engage in when the possibility of me slapping the senses out of them for being offended little twats and being allowed to do it is a very real thing. Basic respect counts for a lot.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

That's not respect, that's cowtowing to the threat of violence your profession manifests.

[@bigguy7353]

@@SonsOfLorgar No it isn't. You know nothing about me, my job, or who I deal with. Get over yourself, soyboy.

[@Bruh-hq1hx]

@@SonsOfLorgar it isnt because he doesnt engage in violence he rather talks

[@bigguy7353]

@@Bruh-hq1hx Thank you, sir. As point of fact, my job is 99.99% talking, 0.01% physicality. Most people are generally pleasant when encountering an equally pleasant voice of authority. 😁

[@Wirrn]

The social pressure thing makes sense because of the mindset for honour dueling. If you insult me, I don't challenge you to a duel because I am offended *per se* and my goal is not to inflict harm on you as punishment. I challenge you to a duel because honour (or the idea of honour at the time) involved standing up for yourself. To accept the insult, even a mild one, without issuing a counter was to lack honour, or worse to be a coward. I'm either saying 'you are right', 'my integrity is not worth fighting for' or 'I'm too scared of pointy things' The *point* of challenging you is to put *myself* in danger - to say "I refuse to accept what you have said / done and I will put my LIFE on the line to stand by that conviction" This is why both parties could have honour satisfied simply by showing up without actually doing anything - it was about being *willing* to, rather than who actually drew blood. And its why refusing to fire in a pistol duel, or shooting to the side was a thing - you're essentially defenceless and giving the other person a free shot, proving you really REALLY mean it. In fact it could even be an insult - youre refusing to let the other person face any risk. So if you don't fire and he does, well HE'S the arsehole. Obviously on top of this you have the people who just like fighting, or want to prove their superiority. My understanding is someone who sought out duels because they wanted to win as many as possible was probably looked down on a bit, though likely not in their company (to avoid being stabbed). The whole mindset is also why it was fashionable to have a dueling scar at points - it didn't matter that you got your arse kicked and got your face carved up - it mattered that you were brave enough to put yourself in that situation. Fun fact this is why so many high ranking Nazis had facial scars - back when they were all younger knife duels were The Shit for rich young men, and at that point it had bene formalised specifically to generate facial scars to show off how cool you were. TL:DR people who engaged in honour duels weren't (probably mostly) bloodthristy maniacs who wanted to kill someone for the slightest insult, they were a bunch of insecure Zuko's who had to prove they were brave and honourable by doing something stupid. Amusingly this means the response wasn't "You wot m8? Come over here and say that and I'll deck you" it was "You wot m8? You better punch me in the face if you want to say that" :D

[@Captain-Axeman]

One of my favorite admirals and war heros died in a duel. His name was Peter Wesel (Tordenskiold), pretty famous Norwegian hero.

[@ishanj2021]

Ah yes, nothing some stabby time can't solve.

[@ChillyJack]

Pretty sure most people who want dueling back aren't talking about medieval style dueling. They're talking about the system where people would have seconds whose job it was to try to resolve the dispute before it came to arms. Also it's not about stopping people being offended, it's about stopping people spouting baseless shit about each other. The courts are woefully useless for getting recompense when someone lies about you, so people are wanting a different option.

[@oneproudbrowncoat]

FINALLY, someone who's familiar with the Code from the Clonmel Assizes! How refreshing. Do you also notice how few have spoken of how (and when) the parties were required to communicate?

[@ChillyJack]

@@oneproudbrowncoat Oh absolutely. Most people get their impression of dueling from movies, which make virtually no effort to make the process historically accurate.I think the only thing I've ever seen a second do in a movie is reload the gun. People who haven't read up on it just assume that the parties shoot at each other until one or both are dead. Or in Skallagrim's case they assume it means fighting with swords, because that's his thing. I have never heard anyone seriously advocate bringing back medieval style dueling though, only ever the Code Duello system.

[@gingercore69]

Where i live there are "honor fights" Basically hand to hand duels... I helped a guy with one... He won... I dont know if i would have won in his place

[@Bruh-hq1hx]

Where do you live?

[@gingercore69]

@@Bruh-hq1hx argentina, in a relatively small town... However, that kind of thing only happens to men under 25 years old mostly... Some say in the north they still do knife duels, and ive met someone who had s knife fight, but those usualyl are not "agreed upon" they judt pull out the knives and start fighting

[@oz_jones]

Yeah, I have heard of such things in my country of Finland too. But it's extremely rare. Two dudes meet up, have a scuffle and walk away. And yes, predominantly young men. All that T is helluva drug.

[@ironlord7991]

I really enjoy your content I learned a lot. I also put the stuff I learn from your videos in my d&d campaign

[@lizardwithhat4125]

Wasn't the slap with the glove used to make a duell harder to refuse? Thats ther version i know at least. Great Video skall, insightfull and entertaining as usual X3

[@ElShogoso]

I do solve my problems dueling. Wait why do you have a gun, I was talking about yugioh

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

The world is full of people who think they're big and tough and better than other people. We already see people turning violent over petty things. If we said that it was acceptable to be violent then it would increase violence.

[@everinghall8622]

Dueling is a great way to found out who's actually tough though. If someone might challenge you for doing something, you would certainly think twice about throwing your weight around.

[@MissPoplarLeaf]

@@everinghall8622 well, it only really proves who's physically tough and confident... which is great for physically strong people but not good for others. And we do still have consequences for harassment in the modern age, it's just legal and social systems that impose penalties and punishments, rather than an individual person fighting you.

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

If someone thinks their big and tough enough that they're throwing their weight around then a duel will not magically make them back down, they have already decided they think they can beat you in a fight.

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

Is it possible for you to disagree without sounding like you're insulting me? You seem to think you know me but actually sound like you're talking out your arse. The concept I'm arguing is simple: if someone thinks they're tough enough to beat you in a fight, they're not going to back down if you challenge them to a fight. It's not hard to understand. Even with the face-to-face fake bluster from someone pretending they're tougher than they are it's still not guaranteed to work because if someone feels backed into a corner they will still come out swinging. Social media means nothing in this debate because the vast majority of the time it's impossible to have a duel in the first place due to distance between people, so saying that challenging people to duels will affect their behaviour is complete nonsense. Why on earth would a duel challenge mean a damn thing to anyone who is sure that there's no way it could ever even happen? If I challenged someone in a different city to a duel they'd laugh in my face (let alone a different country...) There's absolutely no reason why it would affect someone's behaviour to challenge over social media. Duels would sort virtually nothing out. It is a meaningless argument to make over social media, and face-to-face they have usually already decided they think they can beat you in a fight. The one and only time that duels might change behaviour is with the face-to-face fakers if they think about consequences before they act.

[@ologhai8559]

omfg people... u 2 shud have a duel and stop writing novels in here 😂

[@paulbrooks4395]

My girlfriend loves Hamilton and this subject has been interesting to us both, about why they decided to duel, even after Hamilton lost his own son in a duel.

[@DrPeterMarsh]

Great Video,, used too work with a guy who wanted too bring the duel back, now I know how too retort. Thank You Kindly Sir

[@FriezaDBZKing69]

Loved the video. Subbed! Notification bell on! Also, wish this would have covered Feudal Era Japan duels between farmers, samurai, foreigners by domestic peoples of Japan, etc. Would have been interesting.