How Historically Accurate Is Arthur Morgan? | Character Analysis

[@dukemeiser19]

Which character should he rated next? Comment down below 👇 Join da server: discord.gg/jZjR3JJR

[@thedripkaiser574]

john marston

[@Jam-og1km]

Jim Milton, or possibily Rip Van Winkle

[@Volskerch]

Micah Bell

[@nicknoble1886]

John or brother Javier

[@demijones7537]

Charles

[@alcatrazthatguyontheintern1465]

Fun fact: When for players using controllers, when Arthur finds himself pressed up against Mary Lynn dodging the view of her father, you can feel the controller vibrate mimicking the patter of a human heart palpating. This shows Arthur's so in love with her his heart physically flutters. Kinda cute, kinda cool.

[@dukemeiser19]

Dope

[@alcatrazthatguyontheintern1465]

@@dukemeiser19 Genuinely loved the video man. You took your time to do a lot of research and the quality shows.

[@dukemeiser19]

@@alcatrazthatguyontheintern1465 appreicate it 🤙 glad you enjoyed the video

[@white_girl_summer]

@@dukemeiser19 yeah i agree, good video keep it up bro.

[@ballsballsballs3617]

That’s always been one of my favorite missions cuz it shows how human and normal Arthur is despite his rough and rugged lifestyle

[@magiccookies420]

I think you need to also understand Arthur it’s more of a woodsman than a classy outlaw. Dutch kind of puts on the front, but in reality they’re all just living in tents in the woods. So Arthur’s stature, fashion, and hygiene all stem more from canonically being on the road/trail for weeks and weeks and less townhopping

[@dukemeiser19]

ye

[@datguy8460]

ironically I think hes less knowledgeable about being an outdoorsman than the average person was back then. first off hes a thief, so he can just buy or steal his food when he wanted to. he also isn't as well versed in outdoorsing as we think if he needs to be told that fish and berries attracts bears and hunts rabbits with shotguns. nor could he shoot a bow (which tbf prob wasnt common either), essentially is worse at fishing than everyone else he fishes with, and just isnt generally focused on hunting and outdoorsing when theres already people around him that do that. I think his work ethic is more in line of a blue collar worker who would just buy food and only hunt when necessary than somone who actively goes out in the wilderness all day (hes already drained from being enforcer in every criminal activity, hes not gonna spend the other half of his day walking in the woods)

[@themadtitan7603]

​@@datguy8460 I think that's an interesting take with a lot of truth to it. The hunting mechanics give off the wrong idea about Arthur's prowess as a hunter. While we're given the ability to use different baits and craft various ointments, in-universe, I imagine he isn't well-versed in these areas unlike maybe a Hosea. Who hands him a crafted tonic early on & and tells him it's better than "that stuff he gets from the stores", to paraphrase and guides him in the bear hunting mission where he makes a snide remark on Arthur's style of just shooting rabbits with a shotgun. He probably only knows as much as he does because of the gang's lifestyle based on Dutch's affinity and life philosophy of living a free life in the wilderness and fighting for a savage utopia. Which might've naturally led to his bulkier build as well since he goes out for resources and does chores like wood chopping to maintain camp. Otherwise, he might've just stuck to town hopping and been thinner (as Mary says he was) like other outlaws of the time if Dutch hadn't took him under his wing.

[@datguy8460]

@@themadtitan7603 yeah the whole trapper thing and hunting mechanics got people thinking arthur is an unkempt mountain man with a half foot long beard lmao. he's just a hard worker is all

[@themadtitan7603]

​@@datguy8460 Yeah, while I occasionally sport him such a look when I'm out for days outside of towns or camp grinding hunting challenges/quests, I'm generally not very partial to Arthur looking some homeless 1800s hippie with a big, unkempt beard and wearing animal hats and trinkets. I prefer him looking like a simple blue-collar working man with outlaw-y coats, vests, boots. Which is one reason I'm disappointed the more stereotypically western outfits were sort of lacking compared to the first game and the focus seemed more on the crafted hunting garments/sets that make Arthur look ridiculous walking around towns and even at camp.

[@Conky88]

Arthur is built tough. He can throw a 100+lb deer over his shoulder like a sack of potatoes.

[@dukemeiser19]

rugged asf

[@Miller_Time]

Yeah I can barely drag a deer to the truck and I'm 5'8 155

[@ghostwhencodghosts9114]

@@dukemeiser19 he is not a skinny bitch he canonically buff and not skinny like you told in the video

[@Elriuhilu]

​@@Miller_TimeAnd I've never even seen a deer in real life.

[@Elriuhilu]

@@wfr878 Australia

[@FriendwithNoName7]

Arthur is definitly not 180lbs, if you have him at overweight he is atleast 230 and if he is average he is atleast 200.

[@Kysun-f1x]

What about perfect

[@jacksonlikesbagels6237]

@@Kysun-f1x probably 205 or 210

[@kozzy18]

Yeah, 6'1" and 180 is pretty lean.

[@jrTae]

I always forget how big of a guy arthur was

[@nerad1994]

180!is probably underweight Arthur

[@omaidshams3978]

You have to keep in mind, during this time period, everyone in cities, and townsfolk wore clean hats, suits, and were business men. So for Dutch’s gang to stroll through wearing coats, and rugged shirts, and holsters. It’s the equivalent to how gangsters wear tracksuits, and hoodies in today’s society.

[@dukemeiser19]

👍

[@CryptidBuddy]

The first time I entered the Bastile in a muddy duster while everyone stared, it felt like a profound scripted moment

[@AAKVII]

That puts it into a different perspective. Interesting observation actually

[@ponraul1221]

Probably only in St Denis though

[@kingman-fm4dq]

Only Dutch fit in Saint Denis, the other gang members looked like hillbillies next to the general population

[@blackdragon5274]

You've got to remember, the average life expectancy wasn't because people only ever lived to 50, it's because infant/child mortality was insanely high. People over 50 would not have been a rarity, if you made it past childhood you had a good chance of making it into your 70's or older, just like today.

[@fromulus]

It was due to high infant mortality rates, yes, but there were other factors contributing to it. Mainly a lack of antibiotics and other medicines. Injury and illness killed way more middle-aged adults than they do today.

[@kingman-fm4dq]

i mean look at Uncle and Hosea, both over 50 in red dead 2

[@Tinfoil_Hardhat]

Without infant mortality it was 60s to mid 70s. Pod course life expectancy is still an average, and people can live decades beyond that

[@Name-yp3pi]

@blackdragon5274 chance's of making past 60 would've had to of been unlikely because of the average age of death being about 48 in 1899 and as of today it's 79, that pretty much means that 60 back then is like equivalent of being 100 in the u.s today 🤔?

[@jmgonzales7701]

No wonder people didnt birthcontrols back then. Natural selection would just happen.

[@jarrellmarcell5512]

Were there actually baddies like miss grimshaw back then

[@dukemeiser19]

yea i bagged a few

[@aidenguzman3510]

Miss Grimshaw > Sadie

[@man.actual]

@@aidenguzman3510 bill > everyone

[@morgan3714]

@@dukemeiser19 ok unc

[@aidenguzman3510]

@@man.actual Uncle > Everyone

[@useyourimaginasean]

3:02 no, as a 6’1 man who has survived a bear mauling, trolley crash, shot to the shoulder and cliff diving from 1899- that is _in fact_ possible. You just have to be 6 ft tall

[@dukemeiser19]

the extra inch gives arthur more lives

[@realdaggerman105]

@@dukemeiser19 Every inch of height above average equals 1 extra life.

[@DelfyDaun]

And that's why women want men who are atleast 6ft

[@BassMaster.454]

​@@realdaggerman105Dope. I'm 6'2" does that mean that I get 2 extra lives?

[@realdaggerman105]

@@BassMaster.454 If the average height was 6ft you would. But it isn’t, so you get more!

[@randombug344]

Fun fact about John (has nothing to do with video but anyway) John’s “Rip van winkle” name actually has a meaning to it van winkle is an old tale with someone having a nagging wife or lover John could’ve thought about this because he thinks Abigail is like that.

[@dukemeiser19]

🤙

[@beanie640]

Thanks for informing me! I always wondered what he meant by that line..

[@randombug344]

@@beanie640 No problem

[@Crudecoronet]

"Rip Van Winkle" is a short story by the American author Washington Irving, first published in 1819. It follows a Dutch-American villager in colonial America named Rip Van Winkle who meets mysterious Dutchmen, imbibes their strong liquor and falls deeply asleep in the Catskill Mountains.

[@randombug344]

@@Crudecoronet 👍

[@jonfen4680]

There is some inaccuracy in Arthur's "gunslinger outfits." Like his hat being made from leather which would be uncommon due to leather being a material that conducts heat and hats were usually made from cotton or some other fabric that wouldn't conduct as much heat since most working class people worked in the sun and didn't want to get hot. And his shirt being a full button down style would have been seen mostly in Europe, most shirts in 1890s America were half button down/pullovers style, aside from that Arthur's clothing is pretty accurate

[@dukemeiser19]

👍

[@jonfen4680]

Thx

[@craig2196]

uncommon on unrealistic? Because there is a difference.

[@Doughy3205]

In Australia we’ll either have a rabbit felt hat or a straw hat leather hats are a bit more durable and they’ll usually be crushable, seen as he’s moving about quite abit packing would be a bit easier not to fuck up his hat

[@KunReku]

Pretty Accurate until I customise him...............But I don't make him absolutely ridiculous because that ruins immersion, I just make him stand out a little bit while still making him look professional. I even customise his revolvers and gives each of them a name

[@notdancooper923]

A note on Arthur's formal outfits: When Arthur wears a tuxedo it would actually be almost a faux pas, because the tuxedo was considered a semi-fornal suit at the time (the name tuxedo didn't come into use until the 1900s). The socially expected outfit for a formal evening dinner/ball/party - especially one hosted by a prominent figure - would be black shoes with spats, black trousers, a white shirt with starched cuffs and bib, a low-cut waistcoat, a high starched collar (separate to the shirt, as it would be buttoned on), a white bowtie, and a tophat. Gloves and a cane would be common accessories but not mandatory

[@dukemeiser19]

nice

[@notdancooper923]

@@dukemeiser19 You can trust Mr because I had a look through one of my American 1890s tailor's pattern books for this comment lol

[@dukemeiser19]

@@notdancooper923 always great to learn something new 👍

[@philsimms194]

In the video he was shown wearing formal evening wear: A black (swallow) tail-coat, white shirt, bow tie and waistcoat which is time-frame appropriate, he wasn't wearing a Tuxedo

[@ahmadshafik_]

@@notdancooper923 wdym ghe waa wearing traditional white tie

[@No_onespecial02]

1:05 I like how when he translated kilograms to pounds, he used a bald eagle sound effect and when he translated pounds to kilograms, he used sword fighting sound effects.

[@dukemeiser19]

I cater to the people

[@kimberlyh.5023]

@@dukemeiser19 The hero we need.

[@Rabidfernstays]

Did you know the bald eagle screech you hear actually belongs to a red tailed hawk? (Which i think seems more american than a bald eagle)

[@allpixelsmatter5471]

the amount of research Rockstar had to do for this game shows even if it is a bit hollywoody you gotta appreciate the amount of effort and work was put into every little detail

[@dukemeiser19]

🤙

[@Luuuckkky]

0:04 “I ain’t cheese, am still a Batman”

[@HaiderPlayz_cool]

lmao

[@captainrex9646]

Lmfao

[@BryceCronje]

he's outta line but he's right

[@gubdud]

"My bath is coming to a end Reverend"

[@anthony1234dunne1]

Lol class ha ha ha 😂❤

[@cenapsneedshelp]

Dead eye was used to demonstrate how fast he was as drawing

[@noname-g7x7s]

He said that

[@cenapsneedshelp]

@@noname-g7x7s made the comment before I got to that part in the vid

[@keecko8169]

on durability-gunfighters were notouriously hard to kill, i cant recall his name but one gunfighter was shot in the eye, the bullet travelling through his skull through the other end-he survived to die of old age, another had his eyes burnt through by the flaming debris left by a shotgun being shot right next to him-went on to die of old age

[@dukemeiser19]

crazy

[@Boileryard]

I'm not sure that's because they were gunfighters, but rather they were just lucky enough to survive their injuries.

[@zilooh]

@@Boileryard it's some crazy shit indeed. Although, it's probably just luck (just like an old lady smoking 3 packs of cigarettes a day and living 90 years), we have to consider they were particularly resilient (physically and mentally), matter of fact; every stage of humanity has had one branch who was extremely resilient, in the past age it was the warriors such as romans and fellas like that. In the wild west it was people like Arthur Morgan and in this day and age it's probably uhhh... I don't know, this generation is particularly weak-minded, but if you figure something out let me know... Well, I guess you get my point by now. cheers

[@cesarparedes3805]

@@keecko8169 probably Cole younger? He got shot near one of his eyes and lived to be a old man

[@keecko8169]

also gonna add some radical facts to the clothes section, going over each of the 3 main gunslinger outfits (also Ik some nerd is gonna ask, yes the closed coat variant of the winter gunslinger worn during chapter 1 is counted as part of the winter gunslinger) Starting with just the Gunslinger-Many people at the time would've considered an outfit like this to be made for harsher weather, such as rain or light snow. Jackets were considered often to be a luxury to the middle and low class. Even a thin and beaten up one like Arthur's could've sold for anywhere from 60 to 130ish dollars in today's money. Using this we can assume Arthur's coat is either a hand me down from his father or a gift from a gang member, as Arthur is not the kind of guy to spend 100 dollars on a clothing item. It's also the buggiest outfit in the game, with many instances players have with the blue undershirt and sometimes even Arthur's arms clipping through during cutscenes and the gameplay following them. The summer gunslinger is pretty well talked about, but I will add that neckerchiefs were fairly expensive at the time, and seen usually as a more high class purchase, and any person of Arthur's middle-class of living would only be able to purchase 1, hence why Arthur doubles his as a bandana. As for the Winter Gunslinger, although very accurate, especially so in the chapter 1 closed variant, the coat Arthur uses would actually be fairly expensive, having fur on the inside would be seen as a luxury on it's own, but in contrast, expensive winter coats at the time were furry outside as well, whereas Arthur's is a cloth instead of a fur. Meaning whoever made the coat must've been really confused on his target audience.

[@darkwriter77]

Hickok, not Hitchcock. Hickok was a gunslinger in the 1800's; Hitchcock was a suspense/horror author in the 1950's.

[@dukemeiser19]

yes i know

[@Dave3Dguy]

Thank you. Came here for this. Research: It's important

[@DylanEden00]

@@darkwriter77 Auteur, not author

[@NickolasB-d2y]

Actually, it was the sunrise that Arthur watched before dying after tuberculosis

[@dukemeiser19]

[@Boileryard]

☝🤓

[@samdedmon8674]

@@Boileryard it might sound pointless, but it actually has a really important meaning. Earlier in the game, in a camp interaction, arthur says that when he dies, he wants to be faced to the west, to remember all the good times they had that way. But in the end, he dies facing the east, representing his redemption and change into a new person.

[@Boileryard]

@@samdedmon8674 My guy it's just a sunrise. There's no super secret hidden meaning behind every single thing in the game. I admit the sunrise is rad af but there's really no hidden meaning here.

[@samdedmon8674]

@@Boileryard No, it definitely has symbolic meaning. You can choose not to think of it that way, but it was absolutely intentional.

[@yashuab.2979]

In terms of dueling, the days weren't really that chaotic either. Just imagine it as you would imagine today. Most people wouldn't kill another person through out their lifetime, I think hunting was a lot more common though, so that would be the time when they shoot their guns. They also ABSOLUTELY wouldn't have the ammo to train! Ammo was real expensive, and buying ammo was hardly worth the price, even for hunting. So gun wielding experience was hard to come by.

[@dukemeiser19]

yep

[@dennisw.truman3325]

A lot of westerners were Army Veterans so a lot of marksmanship training there.

[@mohamedkhider6998]

They were thieves so im sure Arthur was getting his fair share of ammunition

[@HackManJay]

I was so confused hearing someone say God bless at the end of a youtube video due to how rare that is. God bless you too.

[@dukemeiser19]

Amen 🙏

[@Dom_C7591]

I agree, always refreshing to hear that. God bless y’all ✝️❤️✝️❤️✝️❤️

[@dukemeiser19]

@LeifTunteri-lm6un depends on your view

[@HackManJay]

@LeifTunteri-lm6un I use to be against religion, now im all for Christ.

[@rivalquits7131]

@LeifTunteri-lm6un Not a bad thing at all. People have different views. And being religious doesn't make you a good person nor does being an atheist make you a good person.

[@Vormir_itself]

Monkey brain activates when I see longform Duke content

[@dukemeiser19]

🦧

[@cruz_rossi99]

@@dukemeiser19 do one on micah

[@Hamstersandw1ch]

Button downs such as arthurs were rare in the US, bibbed shirts were more common. Arthur's leather hat would also be rare, as most hats were felt. The pants, boots, spurs and neckerchief are accurate though.

[@Eli-c2x]

So Arthur actually has drip?

[@A_Black_hoodie]

@@Eli-c2x yes

[@scoot-scoot51341]

@@Eli-c2x Historically speaking, yeah

[@connorperrett9559]

@@Eli-c2x Always has.

[@tricorne.953]

The hat comes from his father, who immigrated from Wales. We should take that in consideration.

[@Jam-og1km]

So basically if it wasn't for gameplay mechanics and players choices he'd be perfect, that's pretty cool

[@dukemeiser19]

essentially yea

[@themadtitan7603]

I haven't watched the video yet but Arthur's initial/default look does have him wearing a leather hat, which I heard would've been very rare for the time. Also someone mentioned that button up shirts weren't common back then. So if both are true, then not exactly perfect.

[@Direwolf9818]

@@themadtitan7603 just because it rare doesn’t mean he couldn’t have gotten his hands on them, it’s was mentioned that the hate was his fathers

[@themadtitan7603]

@@Direwolf9818 I didn't mean to say that. Obviously by definition, it means he could.

[@icantthinkofagoodusername123]

0:26 i wwant arthur to manhandle me

[@dukemeiser19]

crazy

[@andrewsolomon6385]

to be fair, he cartelized the shot gun wound after digging the slug out

[@dukemeiser19]

still was quite the feat, digging into an open burnt wound

[@Elriuhilu]

Cauterised. Or cauterized if you're American.

[@grindory]

Cauterized

[@Java_Protogen]

"cartelized", that's a new one

[@alucardtepes4420]

I'm making a video game called Super Arthur Morgan Adventures, It has arthur morgan, but in my alternate universe Albert Einstein makes a time machine and accidentally goes back in to time and cures arthurs tuberculosis, and then dracula appears and turns arthur into a got dam vampire. then it flash forwards to the year 8093 AD, and in this future most people are god dam robot terminators that look like arthur morgan, and Arthur has to save the enitre human race or will he side with the machines?!? it will have enjoyable sidequests such as stealing old ladies purses to buy money to smoke crack and cover several decades

[@dukemeiser19]

super morgan adventure

[@rickfruitygrimes]

The heights in rdr2 are all over the place. In many cutscene’s different angles make characters have different heights from shot to shot however we can confirm Dutch is 6’0 or Rockstar wanted it to be that way because Benjamin Byron Davis told how Dutch had to be shorten because in real life Davis Is 6’6. So they had a second actor for mo-cap who was 6’0. He was used in the trolley and other missions. Dutch constantly seems to be taller than Arthur so I’d say he’s about 5’11 or 5’10 which is more likely for the time but still taller than most.

[@enthusiasticallydry]

i think john is 5’10/11 and arthur is 5’9

[@dukemeiser19]

so pretty much still taller than average

[@rickfruitygrimes]

@@dukemeiser19 you got me

[@Angel-Otk]

The character models are always the same height tf are you on💀that’s just what all cinematic scenes do.

[@datguy8460]

yeah, arthur is one of the guys you think is short/average due to his build when you see him from afar and then you realize he's taller than you and is just big as fuck. so def 5'10 or '11

[@michaelplaczek9385]

Let's not forget you can quickdraw without deadeye. I don't know how it is for console, but for PC its hold m1 and then press tab

[@PracticallyBlind]

Lightly press the trigger button and you’ll see him start to draw (for console)

[@nicolaslabra2225]

@@PracticallyBlind that uses dead eye, if you just press the trigger twice arthur/john will quickdraw and fan their revolvers without slow mo dead eye

[@garrettg2747]

One note I would say in terms of weapons is the addition of schofield. While it was a bit more uncommon it was still prominent in the west. So it wouldn’t be too unusual if Arthur had one. John W Hardin used one for many years before ending up in prison and after becoming a lawyer post prison he traded the schofield for a pair of colt lightnings

[@dukemeiser19]

true

[@juleswoodbury58]

Bill Hitchcock actually said that quickdraw artists or shootists, was a thing for the circus or wild west shows and that being calm in a firefight, and taking his time aiming right has saved his life numerous times in cqc combat.

[@IAmAtAldicacodemon]

can you please make a video dedicated into analysing as to why arthur morgan is so majestic and fine lookin'?

[@dukemeiser19]

female gaze

[@IAmAtAldicacodemon]

@@dukemeiser19 i'm a dude but i still need to chew on arthur's muscles

[@Elriuhilu]

Eh kills O'Drsicllos and doesn't afraid of anything.

[@MitchellAyres-e5h]

​​@@dukemeiser19 The female gaze and the male gays

[@kazakhstanisastate4614]

in the 1899 when the game takes place Cuba just got its independence from Spain with help from the united states just a year prior to the events of the game the war ended with Cuba gaining independence and becoming a protectorate of the united states

[@dukemeiser19]

yep

[@suixidd]

to put it short, Arthur Morgan is a character and the main playable protagonist of the video game Red Dead Redemption 2. A high-ranking member of the Van der Linde gang, Arthur must deal with the decline of the Wild West while attempting to survive against government forces and other adversaries in a fictionalized representation of the American frontier. He is portrayed by Roger Clark through performance capture. Rockstar Games decided to focus Red Dead Redemption 2 on one character, in order to follow him more personally. They felt this was more appropriate for the narrative structure of a Western. Clark wanted to play Arthur in a manner that was complex enough for the player to choose any path and still have the character make sense. He took inspiration from actors such as Toshiro Mifune, John Wayne, and Rob Wiethoff, who played John Marston in the game and its predecessor. Arthur has received acclaim from critics, with his complexity and path to redemption most frequently the subject of praise. Reviewers also lauded him for bringing the world and other characters to life, and ranked him among the most iconic video game characters. For his work, Clark accrued numerous nominations and was awarded Best Performance at the Game Awards.

[@dukemeiser19]

Valid

[@suixidd]

@@dukemeiser19 totally wasn’t copied and pasted form wikipedia 🤫

[@dukemeiser19]

@@suixidd el wiki

[@suixidd]

@@dukemeiser19 senor, por favor. puedo comer un taco? (i’m better than dutch)

[@dukemeiser19]

@@suixidd but you said you knew spanish

[@aHappypumpkin]

Arthur is a frickin menace, bro survived a point blank shotgun shot on his shoulder that should've hit his neck, but still he survived, then you can see he can stay strong even with tb slowly killing him, he can run, he can survive the attack of a Bear, he can survive multiple gunshots, he can litterally fall from insane heights withouth breaking any bones, then his ability with weapons, his ability to survive by his own, he can Hunt, he can cook, he is probally the strongest (not only in strenght because on that there are stronger characters) character of all time, he can do it all like if it was just some simple activities

[@Its_goober-e2b]

0:20 what the heck man you called me here

[@dukemeiser19]

goober

[@Its_goober-e2b]

Nun hu you are a goober

[@nosferatu7611]

goober

[@Its_goober-e2b]

Nun nu

[@jrod9777]

One big thing that people should keep in mind is that Arthur, and by extension the game and its world as a whole, are more inspired by westerns then the true 'wild west' of 1899. So a lot of it is a glamorized, and obviously unrealistic for the sake of good ol' fashioned fun. Because it's Rockstar it feels more like a GTA in the wild west than it does a classic western: the action is WAY over the top, Arthur kills more people than the populations of certain towns, and just the sheer amount of what he does and explores in the span of a year is enough for the lifetimes of at least 2 men. the one other thing I'll add is Arthur's height of 6'1. Being an outlier makes sense; part of the reason that Dutch uses him as the muscle of the group is because of his large stature and brooding nature. The giant horse that Hosea gives you at the beginning of the game is supposed to be a reflection of that, but since horses are living creatures in RDR, anyone can be tamed and ridden, they decided to make it optional rather than mandatory that you keep/use it.

[@dukemeiser19]

very true

[@jonicthehedgehog9379]

the thing is tho, charles is the strongest in the whole gang

[@jrod9777]

@@jonicthehedgehog9379 hm, fair point, I would contend that they've known and raised/taught Arthur since he was a child, while Charles is a relatively recent addition to the group. Also Charles seems the type to be more hesitant to just rob and kill people for no reason, and I believe he's less inclined to use guns, maybe not as skilled or experienced. I'm not saying Arthur's stature is solely why he's the breadwinner or "Bodygaurd" of the group (technically Javier, Bill, Lenny, John etc. are supposed to be pulling their weight to but alas), but I think that was just a factor in why the character's designers made the choice to make him as tall as they did

[@killeanmcchesney5138]

Glad to see that the only picture most men had of their fathers is a mugshot after being arrested. I’m comforted knowing that things haven’t changed at all over the generations lmfao “for those who don’t understand reference Arthur’s father’s picture of Lyle Morgan at 9:16”

[@dukemeiser19]

some things never change - John Red Dead Redemption

[@MarcusZepeda]

In my opinion that Arthur is very historically accurate of how some men were of the 19th century. men did show a lot of their feelings Back then too. but Arthur body type is kind of like Eugene Shadows, a strong man from the 1890s. But men's clothing in the 19th century was very flamboyant stylish especially the gunslingers

[@dukemeiser19]

good point

[@nibba3309]

You mean Eugen Sandow

[@MarcusZepeda]

@@nibba3309 oh yes that's what I meant. sorry

[@Fauwkes]

Men showed their feelings but they understood there was a time and place

[@MarcusZepeda]

@@Fauwkes ok

[@thecowboy9698]

I would say that your breakdown of Arthur Morgan, when comparing with historical accuracy of that time-period, is pretty spot on, given my own research of how times were back then and what life was like. There is one area that I will disagree on, and that is Arthur's size. You say he is supposed to be 180lbs, but from my estimation, based on his wider build, I would say he is probably more around 230lbs - 250lbs, especially if you get him up to weight level 6.5 - 7.5, which to be honest I wish they'd actually given us pounds when showing Arthur's weight in the general stats area, instead of what they did. If you want another character to review, and I do not know if you've already covered him as I am new to your channel, but I would reccomend John Marston, seeing as you cover Arthur Morgan here, covering john next seems very appropriate.

[@dukemeiser19]

i haven’t covered john yet, thanks for the suggestion and for the comment 🤙

[@themadtitan7603]

John Marston would be fascinating to me if they can find some solid sources on the possible inspiration. I haven't encountered any historical figure so far that's poised to be a possible inspiration on John like Arthur has with Doc Holliday's TB and age of death.

[@chumchumracista687]

fun fact: (8:19) in that exact moment of the mission, if you play on console, the controller vibrates like an accelerated heart when arthur's close to her ex

[@dukemeiser19]

@@chumchumracista687 great detail

[@TheOfficialArthurMorgan]

Thanks for making a video about me, Partner! Got a smile on my face today 😊

[@dukemeiser19]

anytime mister, stay warm

[@pureCHiCANEry]

Please do more of these videos about the characters! You can definitely count on me tuning in at the very least.

[@dukemeiser19]

appreciate it i do plan on making more long form 🤙

[@TheseUseless]

7:00 I wouldn’t call him proud. If anything he’s very ashamed of himself. He’s constantly calling himself dumb.

[@Snook_YT]

I luv some long-form duke content

[@dukemeiser19]

I ❤ LONG FORM

[@imppro]

omg snookie

[@commiewhacker4033]

In regards to that bullet removal, he does cautorize the wound to protect against infection, so I could see luck simply being on his side on that one.

[@dukemeiser19]

buddy stuck a hot nail file into his open wound and started digging around. Someone get that man a medical license

[@vincentdaboss]

KZbin did such a good job recommending your channel this is great 🙌

[@dukemeiser19]

🤙glad you enjoyed ur

[@kristijanoros7208]

He survives bullets constantly, and falls off 10m+ high places onto his head and loses less health than after being shot. the biggest innacuracy is his plot armor but that is in the game in order for an average player to not die every 30 seconds.

[@randombalkaner4363]

170 cm is 5'7, also I thought Arthur was 6'2 and 185. Just goes to show how all these height/weight reports on rdr charachters vary a ton, John's height is anywhere from 5'10-6'0, Arthur is anywhere from 5'11-6'2. There is no way to knkw for sure.

[@castiglioni655]

It's complicated because all npc are the same height lmao, so until we get an official report we can assume they're average height. Arthur being 6'2 would mean the chicks in camp are almost 5'11 or even 6ft

[@sparringclips3934]

You called the double action inaccurate, but colt had double action on the American market by 1877. And Micah has 2 model 1892 double action revolvers. The colt thunderer was common by the early 1880s.

[@dukemeiser19]

i meant inaccurate as in it literally can’t hit anything

[@sparringclips3934]

@@dukemeiser19 oh ok, my bad.

[@TZhekaT]

@@dukemeiser19 Explains how Micah missed John on point blank

[@dukemeiser19]

@@TZhekaT fr

[@Theoogaboogaguy]

​@@dukemeiser19 Micah was a extremely accurate outlaw and was in point blank range alright

[@HEYLETZPLAYZ]

cowboys are pretty fucking neat eh?

[@dukemeiser19]

they’re dope

[@MarvinT0606]

You missed two important abilities: 1) Arthur's ability to chug a bottle of whiskey (or gin) in one gulp during emergencies, on horseback and 2) his ability to smoke cigars and cigarettes in one quick drag. It makes you think that he survived TB because his lung cancer was fighting *hard* to claim his life

[@dukemeiser19]

arthur has the american spirit

[@tyrannotherium7873]

I didn’t know that Arthur was 6. 1 and yeah, he is a stocky, build character, which why he fits more on riding draft horses, such as the iron gray Ardennes in the raven Blackshire, which, by the way, those are my favorite horses for Arthur meanwhile me I’m 511 so I’m almost tall as him

[@dukemeiser19]

i can see arthur owning a nice draft horse

[@cantnevercould9660]

Arthur is not 6'1". It should be noted that Benjamin Byron Davis, Dutch's voice actor, claims that Dutch is 6'0". And if you watch the cutscenes, it's clear that Dutch is a little taller than Arthur, making him around 5'10" - 5'11". So you are about as tall as Arthur.

[@citiestoash]

As a general rule. I work with Belgian drafts and I think anybody trying to ride a draft horse looks ridiculous lol

[@jam2059]

@@citiestoash like the overall disproportion or concept as a whole?

[@Birdie0708]

​@@cantnevercould9660Arthur is taller than dutch. The newspaper on Arthur's tent says that he is bigger than Dutch and Hosea. Considering Arthur was skinny back then, the guy must've noticed a height diffrence between Arthur and the two. That would make Arthur 6'1ft.

[@PiercedHeartProductions]

*HICKOCK Bill Hickock! Are you thinking Alfred Hitchcock? Two very different people.

[@drno62]

I have to disagree that Arthur's 6'1", that's just a fan-based wiki making shit up. Javier is canonically 5'8" and Dutch is 6' so Arthur's more like 5'10" being between the two (in cutscenes at least)

[@Adi-mk2lq]

dutch being 6ft is also just a guess though

[@drno62]

@@Adi-mk2lq No, that was confirmed by Benjamin Byron Davis

[@dukecustomeiser]

nice job there, keep it up duke

[@dukemeiser19]

thanks dook

[@generalartist420]

Ight, the dead eye is meant to be his over the years skill, being able to think where to aim in such short amount of time. Also as you play the story further, you can hear a ticking sound get faster each time you use dead eye.

[@dukemeiser19]

yes

[@Ceilingfan-g2g]

0:04 “I ain’t cheese….. I’m still a Batman” “don’t look back go” my bath is coming to an end reverend”

[@dukemeiser19]

greatest quotes of all time

[@ManWhorse]

0:49 “physiciality”

[@Sam-kk5gn]

Arthur is not 6’1 and the source is wrong He’s not that taller than other characters in the cutscenes (since everyone are the same same height regardless bc of the models) Dutch is 6’0 according to his voice actor Arthur seems to be at least 2 inches shorter (or more) than Dutch That sets Arthur at around a maximum of 5’10 Javier is confirmed to be 5’8 and looking at them in rdr2 The listing makes sense Average American was 5’7 back then, and Arthur wouldn’t tower over the average dude in anyway His weight also depends on the player But my estimate is he’d be around 190-200 since he’s on the stockier side

[@MaIcanicen]

When my mom says pause the game, and I say I can't, she has something like dead eye, she slows everything way down

[@dukemeiser19]

[@MaIcanicen]

@@dukemeiser19 🤣

[@PomegranateJuiceSmoothie]

You forgot to realize that arthur is truly just built different

[@dukemeiser19]

he’s just that guy

[@MarvinT0606]

@@dukemeiser19 bro doesn't think he's him, he knows he's him

[@rdr2josh]

I shit my pants

[@JustKidding908]

Good job

[@danim8414]

Mashallah

[@thedripkaiser574]

Sigma moment

[@JoMcD21]

You need any toilet paper? 👋🧻

[@rdr2josh]

@@JoMcD21 nah I’ll just sit in it

[@JesusChrist-yl1dx]

12:57 Cuba was occupied by the US who won it from the Spanish in the 1898 spanish-american war and it stayed occupied until 1900s. So in 1899 it would still be under american control, meaning no extradition laws or anything

[@dukemeiser19]

yep i messed that ip

[@Djmowchicken]

3:23 bob munden has recreated many feats simmilar to this

[@Thatcringeanimator_]

“I ain’t cheese, I’m still a Batman”

[@A_Black_hoodie]

Holy hell this video is awesome!

[@dukemeiser19]

Glad you liked it🤙

[@Mosiah415]

thanks duke i’ve haven’t been doing well lately and ur vids and streams have been cheering me up keep up the great work duke W

[@dukemeiser19]

Glad to hear it, stay safe mosiah

[@Mosiah415]

@@dukemeiser19 thnx gang

[@randombug344]

The floating beer bottle at 17:54

[@dukemeiser19]

magic

[@ked4]

It is confirmed by Rockstar and Dutch's actor that Dutch is six foot even, and Arthur is a little shorter, so he's more like 5'10.

[@BR33CH.]

Heavily slept on channel

[@dukemeiser19]

they sleeping on you tuck em in

[@juankjos]

Yall ain't to believe this, but I was so excited to play RDR2 watching only the thumbnail that almost I immediatly started the game with the Steam Launcher and all. In the minute 3:05 , I heard the shotgun load (For the Rockstar Games loading icon) and when this video showed the title "Skills" it triggered. Damn.

[@dukemeiser19]

nice

[@trymegoahead_]

“ i’m Nobody Buddy. “

[@craigmoye2322]

We are the mighty did wrote an article called "5 reasons why Arthur Morgan is an operator"

[@dukemeiser19]

r6 siege

[@Bennystumps]

love how he brings up my favorite outlaw doc holiday

[@dukemeiser19]

@@Bennystumps shoutout doc holiday

[@Teaman144]

Another long form video by the duke

[@dukemeiser19]

🤙

[@X-SPONGED]

4:12 If we're trying to be scientific, Bob Munden achieved his world records not by pure skill alone but also due to his wrist naturally having a lot of quick-fire muscles in it, which is an inherited trait. If we take that into account, Bob's ancestors or anyone along his family tree could most likely fire at least near to his world record speed even back in the days of the west.

[@dukemeiser19]

[@colton72395]

People lived through gun shots back then all the time but normally you were going to lose the leg arm idk about a shoulder though they didn’t have much medicine but they did know about using whiskeys and honey as a way to fight infection

[@dukemeiser19]

idk if that much honey and whiskey could cure a messed up shoulder

[@colton72395]

@@dukemeiser19 oh most likely wouldn’t it’s not in a good spot to just be cut off I wasn’t saying it’s likely he would make I was just giving you the correction they had some basic understanding of infection and how to keep them away but compared to now it’s like not even close

[@chefboyardee2223]

2:10 The panic of 1899 was especially hard on arthur. He lost all his shares of the Cornwall Railroad Company for pennies on the dollar.

[@bryce4359]

Arthur is actually Welsh and some welshmen carry a gene that makes them really big and tall

[@LankyLanc03]

Arthur is American. He’s got some Welsh descent.

[@bryce4359]

@@LankyLanc03 his parents are Welsh just like John's parents are Scottish

[@LankyLanc03]

@@bryce4359 Only his mother was Welsh. Besides, this is 1899, it’s hard to pin point the characters heritage. For example, his mother could’ve had English parents. It’s just easier to go down the broad ‘he’s got British heritage’ route.

[@northeastokwari1889]

@@LankyLanc03 That's a made up identity. His blood is not Amerindian so he is Welsh doesn't matter where he was born that's a postmodernist way of determining what you are it's a lie Wyatt E made up to justify colonization

[@Maddog-xc2zv]

As said by Dutch's character in a interview, is R* canon that Dutch is 6'0, Javier 5'8 and Arthur in between, averaging 5,10 and not the 6'1 many talk about based in no reliable source I've seen; even different fan wikie pages can't agree if he's 6'2, 6'1 or 5'11. But I'll take it like as more of a reliable source the words of the man acting as Dutch van der Linde over speculation till R* ret-con it and really states Arthur's height at 6'1 and 6'2 once and for all; or not.

[@Idkwhatmyusernameshouldb-fl4ro]

4:42 went to deadwood recently and in 1886, some goody ah shit happened where two people agreed to be on Gold street and dueled like you see in the movies, and they both missed, one bullet hit a window and another hit a guy named Ludwig Kelloch, they went back to playing poker afterwards and Ludwig didn’t die

[@AGAM-z1d]

Arthur Morgan is sort of based off of Jesse James in the Sundance kid. If he kinda looked at it in a way 2 and another thing is I forgot who John Marston is kind of based off of but Jack if. I'm correct his story matches up with all of them because the Maker outlaw sometimes they would have to lose their parents or they would have to run away from. Orphanages orphanage.

[@jedinutcracker]

something you didnt mention, the semi auto shotgun is a browning auto 5 which was patented in 1900, a full year after the events of the game. So arthur getting his hands on one is a chronological error, but john in the epilogue would be fine having it.

[@dukemeiser19]

yep

[@Maddog-xc2zv]

It's also very unlikely that John Browning's FN model 1899, which entered mass production in that precise year and it's most known as the .32 FN 1900 model, was in fact available in the US widely during the year it begun to be produced in mass (they surely weren't all mass produced in late December but is also unlikely they started mass production in January. Plus is a strange niche gun for the wild west, even Saint Denis, but more of a big city (Eastern, New York, etc) gun to the found. The Mauser C-96 is a much more likely option, but still a strange wild west option, as it started mass production in 1896, 3 years before the Fabrique Nationale - and the cartridge differences, jeez the FN is a .32 - 7.65x17 - (the smaller caliber in game after the .22 rifle, even the very rare (estimated 2,900 units produced) Lemat Revolver is at least produced in a minimum .36 caliber; even the original Mauser C-96 which was latter produced in a standard 9x19mm ammo (also is lower numbers in .45 ACP, 8,13 Mauser and 8mm Gasser) was originally a bit bigger that the .32 reaching 7.63x25mm having a much longer cartridge which used also much more powder than the 17mm long and having almost the same projectile neck 7.65 vs 7.63.

[@jedinutcracker]

@@Maddog-xc2zv the borchardt C93 was even rarer at the time

[@Maddog-xc2zv]

@@jedinutcracker some 3000 units built in Germany. it was not produced anywhere I can remember or find with search engines

[@grogglefexengamez]

3:21 *Simo Hayha has entered the chat*

[@ProgrammedForDamage]

I always thought people "back in the day" were substantially shorter until my Grandmother pulled out a copy of her grandfather's record from military college listing him as 6'1 and over 16 stone (224+ lbs). She described him as a "behemoth of a man with a big red beard and huge hands." Myself and all my male cousins on that side of the family are 6ft plus, so I guess it trickled down.

[@dukemeiser19]

nice

[@MericaAnderson]

wild bill HITCHcock will scare me in my nightmares 😭😭😭

[@ИванЕрохин-с2к]

3:20 Well, there was a guy called Bob Munden, who actually had this "eagle eye" ability

[@aidenguzman3510]

John and then Red Harlow next plz

[@dukemeiser19]

sure

[@Roo_Card]

im kinda surprised you didnt bring up linguistics. the dialog is a pretty good indication of the time frame.

[@dukemeiser19]

@@Roo_Card true i should consider that

[@ks2884]

5:00 It's Wild Bill Hickok, not Hitchcock.

[@moosamalik5453]

loved this historical breakdown as with the rest of yours. would love to see another one on marston next; hell maybe even a more in-depth one on all the members of the van der linde gang

[@dukemeiser19]

i’d love to but it’d take a while, for now i’ll just focus on the protagonists 👍

[@fafflytailslogisonicuite104]

3:18 this si 3 months old, but I'm glad to know that nowadays, there are indeed people with such an incredible reflex and draw speed that could be SOMEWHAT, not entirely it, but SOMEWHAT close to what a Dead Eye is .

[@dukemeiser19]

@@fafflytailslogisonicuite104 project arthur morgan

[@justinrose8661]

dude, the game was set around the turn of the 20th century. People looked the same because that wasn't very long ago at all

[@dukemeiser19]

Ok

[@Maddog-xc2zv]

@@dukemeiser19 In fact that's not true. People of the 1950's in average were ways smaller than latter century borns or XXIst century off springs. Just consult any Statistics Bureau no matter if in the US, countries in Europe and Asia. One good example is why, being the same original people, North Koreans and South Koreans are so different in heights, being the South ones much taller and this just after the War that started in the 1050's. SK people have food, nutrients and healthcare and genetically they evolved and become taller (a trend that averages since the beginning of times, as a Medieval european - 1200/1400's - height would not surpass 1,50m or 4,11 feet), as North Koreans lack the nutrients to keep their bodies developing, skeleton included ofc, as in a kind of darwinistic "natural selection" or similar evolutionist theories that showed up to be quite correct in these genetic aspects so far. I'm comparing two original same biological kinship people; this kind of measurement is inaccurate when applied to say south Europeans and Northern ones, just like South and North Americans. But we do know for sure we got taller since the first civilizations to nowadays in about 50 to 70 cms average. A very simply way to notice it is to compare, again in average, the height of a grandson and a grandfather with the father in between. The normal path is to get taller in every newer generation.

[@MichaelMedici61W2]

He told Javier “You look like the Jack of Diamonds!” I lost my shit and laughed WAY to hard for way to long at that comment

[@Seft2_]

Cuba was owned by the US in 1899.

[@dukemeiser19]

hadn’t considered that, thanks

[@METRO_EDITS2024]

Always love coming back to this video it’s so good

[@dukemeiser19]

🤙

[@TheRandomlyRandomGamer]

*Summary:* He’s built different.

[@dukemeiser19]

essentially

[@Rebels-Raiders]

The correction I would state is Arthur would most likely carry Schofield - if his literal job for the gang was to be the enforcer and the gunfighter. He would 100% prefer that over a standard SAA. - Here’s my Head Canon Arthur Gunslinger: Schofield x2 Whichester ‘73 in .44-40 (Lancaster Repeater in blued stèèl) Springfield Rïfle W/Scope (Lore is he robbed the gun from a homesteader and had a gunsmith mount scope for him) Winchester Double Barrel Shotgun (variable on type of work)

[@dukemeiser19]

Nice

[@malakimathers4500]

Something els with author and doc holiday is that they both died at the same age

[@Fluffyc-a-p]

0:31 I'M IN THE VIDEO 😁😁😁

[@gooseegg617]

@@Fluffyc-a-p no

[@Fluffyc-a-p]

@@gooseegg617I am Fenton 🗿