Speed Painting Miniatures for Warhammer | Duncan Rhodes

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@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Firstly, thanks for watching :-) Remember to let us know your favourite speed painting technique or if you have a different one in the comments below, we'd love to read them. If you enjoyed this video, feel free to Like and Subscribe to this channel. 😊😊
@41ff1208tf
@41ff1208tf 2 жыл бұрын
😊
@MangyForestCat
@MangyForestCat 2 жыл бұрын
Please show us how you would approach building, assembling, and painting a Gundam from Bandai. If you need recommendations on which one to try I have several which fulfill different criteria from beginner friendly to more complicated, from 1/144th to 1/100 to 1/60th scale.
@danielsw.9409
@danielsw.9409 Жыл бұрын
Hi Duncan! First of all, great videos, I watch them like I eat Schokobons (never ending) and it's quite meditative. One thing I would have liked to know from this video is how much time exactly the different speed painting methods took.
@nikkicook4649
@nikkicook4649 Жыл бұрын
Would have loved to have seen Oil wash done as well!
@mikejonesnoreally
@mikejonesnoreally Жыл бұрын
@ 00.01 Sweet god spare me the butt rock!! >.< Ugh! Seriously, do you even NEED subscribers? Rape your OWN ears i'm not here for that! YOU PAINT PLASTIC FREAKIN" TOYS DUDE! It's not like Van Halen is goin' ta' open for you! xD i think i'll find someone ELSE to assist me with adding color to bits of plastic in stages. YOU ARE WAY TOO ROCK STAR FOR ME Gunga DIN!! Wow. What a joke.....
@oskar6661
@oskar6661 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using dip for years (I do several hundred minis per year for a variety of games, and I don't do painting competitions). Like everything, it takes some experimenting. You need to have white spirits on hand over time to dilute it and keep it fresh. I suggest using a bunch of torn up (not cut!) paper towel bits once you dip to draw out excess pools of dip, etc. I definitely suggest adding a few highlights, and particularly metallic highlights after flat coating, etc. Like everything it requires some work, experimentation and practice to get it down to a simple and reliable method. I will also say that for slimy/sticky/icky creatures (plaguebearers, for example) it's absolutely brilliant. I don't flat-coat stuff like that and they appear glossy and slick and nasty. I also let the dip remain heavier on dirty stuff.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
There you go folks, some great advice from an experienced 'Dip' painter. Thank you for sharing 😊
@Eric-jt8yx
@Eric-jt8yx 2 жыл бұрын
good advice. Thanks
@Thornsworks
@Thornsworks 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has always struggled with getting stuff painted traditionally, my discovery of "slapchop" has been game-changing for me. I had a huge pile of grey and black primed orks and had been trying everything to get them done. Even bought an airbrush thinking it would help! (It didnt) Painted up my first set of Beast Snagga boyz using slapchop a couple of weeks ago and the whole process was just so relaxing and enjoyable with completely decent results! Its not going to win any prizes but my god is it close to the models I did traditionally (Base, shade, re-base, highlight) that took me 10x as long to paint! I was taking weeks of several hour sessions just to get 10 boyz painted up. Now with Slapchop Im getting 10 done every 2 sessions of about 2 - 4 hours a night, and I can kind of just relax with it while watching videos and not be super hyper focused on small edge highlights etc. I've heard people think badly of it, but for me its been a game changer!
@SiegeTF
@SiegeTF 2 жыл бұрын
I use an airbrush instead of drybrushing, and it saves a ton of time. Took some time to get the right pressure and acrylic ink, which might've been your problem.
@AngusMcIntyre
@AngusMcIntyre 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lanessar8008 airbrush your shadow tone and your mid tone. Dry brush the high tone (the white in these examples). You get incredible volume
@dorn0531
@dorn0531 2 жыл бұрын
As long as you are happy with them, that's all that matters. Don't let naysayers get you down. Find the technique that works for you and go nuts! This it the first time I've come across the SlapChop but I think I shall be using it on some models going forward.
@Denbot7
@Denbot7 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree man. I first tried slap chop a couple of months ago. Game changer for me. The results are just too good for the amount of effort required. I find it so weird that people rag on the method.
@AngusMcIntyre
@AngusMcIntyre 2 жыл бұрын
@@Denbot7 it gets hate because it isn't Instagram 'high art'. Perceived as lazy or by-the-numbers. It's true in a sense, but we should paint for ourselves first. Others never.
@24fretsoffury
@24fretsoffury 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, my speed painting technique is “spend a month working on one model at a time with paints and washes, even contrasts, for it all to be a sad imitation of the ‘Eavy Metal team’s box art, and then feel both accomplished and depressed that I may never be that good” It’s my tried and true method.
@academiaEnglishOnAstillero
@academiaEnglishOnAstillero 2 жыл бұрын
That's the best method. You do are accomplished.
@SpoonyBard88
@SpoonyBard88 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta find your own style!
@mikejonesnoreally
@mikejonesnoreally Жыл бұрын
@@SpoonyBard88 Exactly! "Faint Heart ain't never done filled a flush!" xD
@michaelteller7503
@michaelteller7503 Жыл бұрын
Well if you're going for eavy metal washes and contrasts will only hurt you. Their crisp highlights are very opaque paints with tons of hue steps
@Rantalanta
@Rantalanta Жыл бұрын
Good. Man.
@TheKingsPride
@TheKingsPride 2 жыл бұрын
One time when my mom was on vacation she found a Games Workshop store and bought me a box of Ork Boyz. I used an airbrush to prime them white and she’s been having an absolute blast painting them with contrast paints. She loves Orks and can’t get enough of her Boyz, and contrast allows her work to actually look pretty good all things considered.
@maxdavis473
@maxdavis473 2 жыл бұрын
Dude your mom sounds fantastic
@8heimdall8
@8heimdall8 2 жыл бұрын
You re the luckiest man alive my dude!
@coolin2761
@coolin2761 Жыл бұрын
Cool mom
@cpt_soban
@cpt_soban Жыл бұрын
Gonna need to see some pics mate
@vagabondprime1691
@vagabondprime1691 2 жыл бұрын
I have been using what the kids call "Slap Chop" with inks for about a decade now, and I love it. It really comes together with some highlights after! The biggest advantage for me is that my eyesight is getting worse (I have been painting minis for 40 years) and the extreme highlights from the drybrushing really helps me see all the little bits on the model. Thanks for the video!
@CharlesBowden
@CharlesBowden 2 жыл бұрын
The dip method shocked me, it was my favorite of the three. I totally didn't expect it to turn out so great.
@John_on_the_mountain
@John_on_the_mountain 8 ай бұрын
Same. I think im gonna get a can of that dip now lol
@SunburntHands
@SunburntHands 2 ай бұрын
Dip can look brilliant, but it is very easy to mishandle it, and a badly dipped mini can look awful. I think it was the bad dip jobs that gave it a bad name.
@admiralron
@admiralron 2 жыл бұрын
My scale model soul aches whenever I hear someone refer to the decades old concept of underpainting as slapchop :P Great video as always duncan!
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is a decades old technique. I remember seeing GW way back using inks over white primer. Great technique but not new, just updated a little 😊😊
@OldManRogers
@OldManRogers 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Not new but has a new and silly name
@bibsp3556
@bibsp3556 2 жыл бұрын
tzeench told me it was always slap chop, and now i don't know what to think.
@SunburntHands
@SunburntHands Жыл бұрын
But if you tell a novice miniature painter to google 'grisaille' or 'underpainting', they'll get a lot of confusing information which relates to fine art and advanced model painting and uses materials and tools that won't be relevant. If you tell them to search for 'slapchop', they'll find exactly what they need.
@greystorm9974
@greystorm9974 2 ай бұрын
And the materials for doing it had become better
@trueseeing
@trueseeing 2 жыл бұрын
I've been experimenting to great success with combining Contrast paint with Tamiya weathering powders, giving it the same treatment as a dip almost. It's extremely fast and easy and make the models less 'pastel' and while giving them a great finish.
@ovidiudiumea4012
@ovidiudiumea4012 2 жыл бұрын
I read this comment and went looking up Tamiya weathering Master products... my wife then looks over my shoulder and sees one of their sets and goes "hang on a minute, that's a make-up kit!" And turns out they kind of are
@erebus9217
@erebus9217 2 жыл бұрын
Yay new Duncan Rhodes video🎉
@coreyrramsay8858
@coreyrramsay8858 2 жыл бұрын
Just getting back into the hobby after 20+ years. Bought a kill team box and tbh was never any good at painting so slap chop has been really interesting to me as an easy way to get something looking decent. Really happy to see you do it as I love your videos.
@victorcongos1440
@victorcongos1440 2 жыл бұрын
I find "slapchop" when you do the undercoat with an airbrush creates shockingly smooth highlights with contrast/inks. Your dipped model came out way better than I expected. Might need to experiment with that technique
@seanmalloy7249
@seanmalloy7249 4 ай бұрын
I have to wonder whether putting an overall wash on the miniature would work just as well as dipping it, and with most of the washes both being flat and drying fairly quickly, would eliminate the long wait and the subsequent clearcoat (although you'd probably still want that for durability).
@Umbasa_
@Umbasa_ 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite is using either airbrush or rattle cans to first put down black primer then do a misting of white over top or at an angle. That way, you get the same tonal variation but without all the drybrushing, so you can avoid some of that texture. Bonus Tip!: After trying literally every Contrast green color, my absolute favorite Ork skin tone is Plaguebearer Flesh followed up by Biel-Tan Green. That gives such a beautiful, rich tone to my boyz without looking too cartoony or over-saturated.
@XerrolAvengerII
@XerrolAvengerII Жыл бұрын
it's honestly a magic combination
@SnyperMac1
@SnyperMac1 2 жыл бұрын
I think speed painting is fantastic if you play. For me personally it’s not a worry of mine i just like to paint them. I recently painted Guilliman and I spent nearly 55 hours getting through it and it came out fantastic. Your face painting tutorial was a huge help
@cuthwulf
@cuthwulf 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Only 1 correction. Army Painter did not "pioneer" dip about 15 years ago. A lot of us starting dipping before that. It began with chestnut colored polyshade wood stain from the hardware store. You can still buy it there and it's much cheaper than the Army Painter version. They were just the first to realize it could be marketed to miniature painters that didn't know others were doing it already.
@joakimandersson7769
@joakimandersson7769 2 жыл бұрын
People need to see this, we used to do the chestnut wood stain dipping in the early 2000's and I've heard people do it as far back as the 80's, and it's soooooo much cheaper than the stuff marketed to miniatures painters, with the same results (as far as I've seen at least).
@Djorin
@Djorin 2 жыл бұрын
I still recall in the late 90s hearing friends calling dipping the "Michael Jordan technique" because you just threw the miniatures into the bucket of wood stain container, fishing them out later
@PatrickRollens
@PatrickRollens 2 жыл бұрын
I swore by Minwax Polyshades Antique Walnut and Tudor Satin for my early dipping days. It's hard to find nowadays, but ACE Hardware seems to consistently stock the small jars of Minwax Polyshades. Just FYI for anyone who is seeking this product today.
@pizzalord3n
@pizzalord3n 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I remember buying woodstain for that as well. Back in the good old cmon-times
@andrewamann2821
@andrewamann2821 2 жыл бұрын
@@pizzalord3n I remember the threads about this one early on Dakkadakka, and the tricks to get the excess dip wash off of the minis.... T'was a simpler time, back then: Payne's gray watercolor washes, edge highlights galore, black gesso priming, watching zenithal priming/underpainting just beginning its reign...
@idiotproofdalek
@idiotproofdalek Жыл бұрын
These instructions are so detailed! ‘Remember to breathe in and out while painting’…
@maciejklasa6783
@maciejklasa6783 2 жыл бұрын
I absoltely love the third method, both the easy of application and the results!
@helwrecht1637
@helwrecht1637 2 жыл бұрын
The new Imperil Fist contrast actually works really well on large spaces
@madmerlinsart
@madmerlinsart 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, though I find it not very good at adding shading, you really need another yellow like Iyanden for that.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I'll give it a go 😊
@butcherbird5148
@butcherbird5148 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmerlinsart Imperial Fist is one of the new contrast paints that only use one pigment instead of two different pigments. The paint not being a strong shade is on purpose
@madmerlinsart
@madmerlinsart 2 жыл бұрын
@@butcherbird5148 ah I see. I really should read articles fully instead just the paints and what they can do 🤣
@frosty_otter7155
@frosty_otter7155 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmerlinsart I bet you could get better shading if you use a slap chop approach but use brown primer and khaki colors up to a pale sand for the dry brushing.
@miketeeveedub5779
@miketeeveedub5779 2 жыл бұрын
I like that Slap Chop method the best. That Orc looked like a Supermutant right out of Fallout 3. Love it!
@edwindrood2816
@edwindrood2816 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Contrast is great, dip is ugh, and slap chop is queen.
@christopherpeery7436
@christopherpeery7436 2 жыл бұрын
Dip method used to be my favorite and I still use it for certain hordes, and i think the most worth it would be slap chop. It looks amazing for the amount of time it takes
@windows95_de
@windows95_de 11 ай бұрын
I'm more or less new again to painting and I tried out a little and right now I'm doing slap chop method and I really like it. I'm not looking to become a pro-painter but still want my figures to look good.. and so far I'm satisfied with what I see. I also cannot spend tons of hours for painting. So it's amazing so far.
@MrPuzzles
@MrPuzzles 2 жыл бұрын
Slapchop was a genuine gamechanger for me. Even though it's not quite as quick as the other two methods, the results - for me anyway - are consistently, infinitely better.
@schmoopydoopy
@schmoopydoopy 2 жыл бұрын
as a new painter, this has helped me immensely, I really appreciate the simple break down of the three different stys. one day ill try the dip method.
@madfjohn1
@madfjohn1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Duncan for these three. My self I use a mix of those three and some for my style of speed panting of my orks over the years. I use what is called Slap chop on a unit. Then I use washes for the blocking of the color. Next, I go back threw with a more solid color and contrast on solect areas. From there to tie the unit together i will do something like a dip with a lighter tone. I was able to get out over 400 orks in a week for a large Apoclips game i was in a few years back.
@horuslupercal2385
@horuslupercal2385 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this, Sir Duncan....... That DIPped Beast Snagga ended up looking 🔥, so I might have to give that a go.
@Njord_42
@Njord_42 2 жыл бұрын
Painting the Kruleboyz as my 2nd AoS army, slap chopping 20 gutrippaz makes it goes really quickly !
@athollmcnicoll1028
@athollmcnicoll1028 2 жыл бұрын
Yes like you Duncan if it were me painting them fast I'd go for the Dip Method and leave them to dry in a well ventilated area, as this I find enhances the tones as air flows freely over the mini's.
@dorn0531
@dorn0531 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the bright, almost cartoony look of the "white" prime and contrast approach. Fun and colourful, very cool. I have never tried SlapChop, you've inspired me. Great video Duncan, thank you.
@brucehemming9749
@brucehemming9749 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for sharing your thoughts on the different methods … I had heard slap chop mentioned in other videos but this is the first demo I have watched on the method. A trusted source, thank you.
@hereonmars
@hereonmars Жыл бұрын
love this style of video you've done with the close ups. YOU ARE HUMAN AFTER ALL!!!!
@buckybarnes5241
@buckybarnes5241 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I moved to slap chop for my speed painting six months ago and have never looked back.
@christreedee
@christreedee 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video for new folk and old masters trying to finish all that grey.... :) thank you Duncan.
@robinadelstam4492
@robinadelstam4492 Жыл бұрын
last one looks more realistic and that is a key factor i look for. Thank you for all your great work :)
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@Marmarmie
@Marmarmie 2 жыл бұрын
Slop chop is my personal favourite. With some blacklining and a little bit of work to make flat surfaces smooth you get very nice results. THen you can go and refine things further or just live it like that. Thanks for the video!
@vilaortiz1
@vilaortiz1 2 жыл бұрын
WOW, amazing comparison. DIP technique yields really better results than I thought. UltraMatt varnish was the key here. Great contribution
@apolloangel9374
@apolloangel9374 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video, I am a beginner and the dip method which I tried two times until now is awesome!
@jimmyzimms
@jimmyzimms Жыл бұрын
Great video for people starting out. One thing to note for those interested in AP Quickshade is that you can also fully use it with a brush. While we tend to see that more on smaller minis (epic or with FoW for example) it's fully functional with larger stuff like Warhammer minis. I use it on my bases which are sculpted from Greenstuff, textured paints, and bits and gives it a lot of protection.
@CollinBuckman
@CollinBuckman 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say the initial drybrushing technique for the slap chop method looks like a great way to paint a stone statue
@FreshCoatKustoms
@FreshCoatKustoms 2 жыл бұрын
I came back to mini painting after 25 years, when I won an award at the age of 16 or 17 for my Kharn the Betrayer. Man, the landscape has changed since then. I just ordered the complete range of Vallejo colours and so far I am really happy with them. Still waiting for the Express colours to arrive, so I can try the slap chop technique. As of now, getting back into painting has already given me dozens of hours of meditative fun and I could not be happier with my decision. Thank you for all your advice.
@49marquito
@49marquito 3 ай бұрын
how much did that run
@FreshCoatKustoms
@FreshCoatKustoms 3 ай бұрын
@@49marquito Well, I'm currently recording my own tutorials, so it's all fine for me.
@PhD777
@PhD777 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. Army painter popularized the dip method, they did not pioneer it, as it has been in use since the early/mid 1980's and was very popular with Historical Wargamers (especially Ancients and Dark Ages). The "slap chop" method ( that is an extraordinarily _STUPID_ name) has been in use since the mid/late 1980's and was known as: sketch/wash; sketch/glaze; or merely "washing" a miniature. ( Been in the hobby since early-mid 1970's so am very familiar with this sort of thing and find it amusing how the wheel is constantly being reinvented. 🎅) EDIT RE: Historical Wargamers dip method: They used polyurethane wood stain. The intensity was determined by the amount of mixing - or lack thereof - that was done to the stain. Keep up the good work! 👍👍
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You are right though, these methods go back some way and most have stood the test of time as they are reliable techniques.
@Hannah11876
@Hannah11876 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the new presentation: the close ups, the change of camera angles and the nice background music. Please keep that!
@reddragontabletopgames
@reddragontabletopgames 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. Never used the Dip technique. But result looks quite good after the varnish. Never thought about that.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Once it's matted down it looks pretty good tbh. The nice thing is, is that you can apply a few highlights here and there and it will boost it nicely.
@maxf.7262
@maxf.7262 Жыл бұрын
Ty Duncan!! I realy like the dip method, was intrested in that army painter product. I will give it a try for sure! I will also try out the slap chop to see how I manage it. Ty again!
@ryanivester5042
@ryanivester5042 2 жыл бұрын
I've been out of the painting gig for close to 9 years now. I've always sucked at shading and highlighting. I did both Blood Angels and Grey Knights (and started on a space wolves army) with the dip method to great success. I was thinking about trying the slap chop method now that I resumed painting. However, you have convinced me to stick with the dip method. It works great with space marines as long as you watch the larger flat areas for pooling. I did find a great way to shake off the extra dip is mount the mini on some blue-tac stuck to a dowel. Then insert the other dowel end into a drill. Then you dip your mini, turn the drill on low, and it spins all the extra dip off.
@mo-kq7iw
@mo-kq7iw 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks Duncan. Always appreciate your videos!
@oscarwind4266
@oscarwind4266 2 жыл бұрын
Contrast looks so good. I'm gonna keep that in mind because I like vibrant colors for my Thousand Sons.
@TattooedTabletop
@TattooedTabletop 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video! I think Speed Painting is an extremely good skill to have. Not only does it teach you time management, but it also teaches you and forces you to learn new tips and tricks on doing certain elements of a model. I started doing slap chop because I think it really does get the result that I really like and it does look fantastic. And you can still do the HQ units still all classic and super super nice. Might have to try the dip though based on the result that I saw there!
@bibsp3556
@bibsp3556 2 жыл бұрын
Long time player, so i've done my share of speed painting. I love it. the 24 hour army challenge in a WD from like 2002/03 was awesome. my mates and I copied it as kids, albeit smaller scale.
@RootsBassCanada
@RootsBassCanada Жыл бұрын
Thank you! New painter here. Started last Friday. That last method is really cool! ❤
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for watching
@Eric-jt8yx
@Eric-jt8yx 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! I've never watched a video about the dipping method despite seeing the product around for some time. Thanks
@petermerz2704
@petermerz2704 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial. I like the contrast method the best. With the dip, you have to wait for the figures to dry, then apply the matt finish. With the slop chop, you have to dry brush 3 times before you start painting. I think the contrast method is the quickest. 😎🇨🇦
@patrickbonner9866
@patrickbonner9866 Жыл бұрын
That song in the background during Slap Chop rocked! 🤘🤘
@ashirrelevent1062
@ashirrelevent1062 7 ай бұрын
Sounded like a Thick44 riff😂
@aaroncarlsback7239
@aaroncarlsback7239 Жыл бұрын
Seeing videos of Duncan eagers me to start painting again :)
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA Жыл бұрын
Do it. Grab a brush and have some fun!
@MechaWrecka
@MechaWrecka 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the result on the DIP model. It being ready for subsequent upgrades to the paint job later is a big bonus too. I may have to try this method some time.
@stuffandnonsense8528
@stuffandnonsense8528 2 жыл бұрын
I love this. At first I thought: oh no! Duncan stooping to the speed craze. And yet there was joy to be had in this stooping. I particularly enjoy the moments where there is barely concealed disdain for not going further. I also enjoyed the way of pointing out that techniques which some people think are new are, in fact, quite old and well understood.
@SpoonyBard88
@SpoonyBard88 2 жыл бұрын
The speedpainting buzz is due to a combination of a huge influx of new blood into the wargaming hobby over the last couple years and several big companies releasing products aimed at them. You might feel excited to get your hoard of miniatures onto the table now that the opportunities for playing in public have risen dramatically. Tons of new faces, and tons of stir-crazy gamers being unleashed into hobby shops and game clubs. I don't look down on playing with gray models, but a painted army of any quality level is more fun to experience playing against.
@kaldorf
@kaldorf 2 жыл бұрын
I will have to give the dip method a try. As a new painter my best results to date were with the slap chop method and classic method following your Deathwing outrider tutorial. For fast and forgiving slapchop has been good to me. Thanks for the great videos.
@diggoryx
@diggoryx Жыл бұрын
I was using slapchop for a while and it suited me but I recently decided to bite the bullet and get a cheap airbrush. I now do the monochrome bit with the airbrush zenithal method and then contrast paint the colours in. Leaves a much smoother finish than slapchop but just as easy in my opinion (so long as you are willing to invest in an airbrush).
@madmerlinsart
@madmerlinsart 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Certainly like the dip method most of all. I remember back in my early days when my painting wasn't exactly the neatest, that a good application of Devlan Mud (at the time) hid a lot of mistakes. Now adays my skills have improved but I still strongly believe in basic colours and a good all over wash, some times with a spot wash, to be the best method for getting game ready. My least fave method would be Contrast. While I love the paints, I find that I spend just as much time touching up accidental spills than I do applying the paint and really it'd be a lot easier just going back to flat colours and a wash. I still use your old White Dwarf method for painting my Rohan, I haven't done anything to them in over a year, though I recently picked up Eomer, maybe I just need some video inspiration. 😉😂
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks fore this fantastic reply and the fact your still using the old White Dwarf article made me smile. Thank you...
@madmerlinsart
@madmerlinsart 2 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA Any time 😄
@djdoug242
@djdoug242 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the dip since Army Painter released it. It's so, so much smoother than floor stain/polyshades/etc and absolutely worth the difference in price. Also: I dipped a model exactly one time as demonstrated. The other several thousand models I brushed on the dip with a large, soft brush; it's so much quicker and easier to batch paint (especially when painting large units of historicals). Because of it's cohesion, it works even on flat surfaces like space marines.
@Hughmanx
@Hughmanx 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few people recommend an artist acrylic for the white drybrush of slapchop because the higher paint quality helps achieve smoother drybrushing which helps with the transitions. Also having a nice soft drybrush also helps with this.
@stevehall364
@stevehall364 2 жыл бұрын
Anything titanium white works, even model paints. Monument has a titanium pure white, as well as AK and vallejo. just don't use GW.
@cordial001
@cordial001 2 жыл бұрын
I've always liked how Dip looks after it's all dry and cleaned up, but I generally don't use it because it's not water-based. I've done a fair bit of work with Contrast/Speed Paint since they've come out and I like the vibrancy you get with them over the washed-out slapchop look. It's always easier to dull the contrast paint down with a wash later than it is to brighten them back up in my experience.
@tjans1979
@tjans1979 2 жыл бұрын
Duncan seems like a really nice guy. Refreshing videos, dude!
@massimovaccari
@massimovaccari 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I think i'll give a try to the dip technique for my army.. Many thanks!
@emchamberlain
@emchamberlain 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as ever. Really breaks them all down.
@TheCyberwolf85
@TheCyberwolf85 2 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation of each has inspired for future projects. Cheers Duncan 🤘
@BeGaDo1984
@BeGaDo1984 2 жыл бұрын
Cool Video and the Music while u showed the Dip method was awesome , sounds like an Anime opening theme. 😁
@sigururjonsson4616
@sigururjonsson4616 2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest applying the Army Painter dip with a ruined brush rather than dip them and the base into the mix. Gives you some semblance of control over the whole process. Also no need to shake the excess off so less chance of splattering the furniture with woodstain varnish. You can also use classic kids watercolor brushes for this, the ones with black plastic hairs. Also if you need to take a break stick the brush into water as the dip and water wont mix it will keep the brush from starting to harden
@sevalarama9622
@sevalarama9622 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say that slapchop for me is my go to method of speed painting. The work is done for you in the dry brushing before you apply contrast and I like the style that is produced from that.
@crawbag0311
@crawbag0311 2 жыл бұрын
On this episode of DRPA Duncan speed paints better and faster than I paint at my best. Lol fun video and the music made me want to paint some noise marines.
@jeronimo486
@jeronimo486 2 жыл бұрын
I really need to test this Slap Chop method, it seems quite the right approach to some of my backlog... Thanks for this video!
@ChrisB-uh7fx
@ChrisB-uh7fx 2 жыл бұрын
I used slap chop for my Into the Dark teams. I modified it a bit and used my airbrush for everything but the final white which I dry brushed. I'm really happy with the result. I do want to play around a bit with colored undercoats versus the traditional black/grey/white.
@rogerhack3750
@rogerhack3750 2 жыл бұрын
The slapchop method is something i'm gonna try out since to me that result looked the best.
@Vonfluff
@Vonfluff 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video. I've used dip before but found it went everywhere so I ended up using a brush to apply it. I was really pleased with the results and it also gave a good protective layer on the models - the only downside was the mess it created when working with it - needing white spirit to clear up.
@cyagen9782
@cyagen9782 2 жыл бұрын
@thehonestwargamer Duncan did Slap Chop and likes it! You made it! Nice video Duncan, very interesting to see all these techniques side by side!
@radomircita9420
@radomircita9420 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas mister Duncan! Blessed be your whole new year with happiness aplenty, good health and many thin layers of everything nice!
@DCUATL
@DCUATL 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. Slapchop is my favorite method. I've had success experimenting with the undercoat like using ivory instead of white for my Orks. It also gives me a great start so I am more confident going back over the model for highlights and other more advanced techniques.
@goatman9998
@goatman9998 2 жыл бұрын
The dip method is my favorite. OCD prevents me from playing with unpainted models so speed painting is a must
@jevanoff83
@jevanoff83 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the dip with a few edge highlights after it's dry for a few years now. Mainly cause I like the more natural and not as bright look it creates. Last couple of years been using contrast style paints with edge highlights and really enjoying it now. I just follow the directions on the can of dip and like someone else has said keep some paper towels to get the pools soaked up once it's set for about 5 minutes. Can also use a brush to soak the pools up and use from white spirits to clean the brush afterwards. Kinda want to do a slap chop style and see how I like it.
@vengefulelf659
@vengefulelf659 2 жыл бұрын
Speed painting is like the great value brand of painting.
@LeeAllanSpades
@LeeAllanSpades 2 жыл бұрын
OH! Another fun slapchop variation is to make it a colored monochrome (dark blue-blue-light blue) if you want to give your mini a more otherworldly feel.
@goprochef6352
@goprochef6352 4 ай бұрын
I think of this as very Instagram haha (not in a bad way!)
@phlipy
@phlipy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Duncan for your nice helpful videos!🙏 I've used the dip-method mostly for my boardgame-minis like the ones for Talisman - with good enough results. Good you mention that the contrast method ist not that forgiving and therefore does not always speed up things. One advice for conterast painting is consider your brush size. The larger and more flat the surface is you paint the larger the brush is I use to avoid 'scratches' etc.
@nodrogkram
@nodrogkram 2 жыл бұрын
I have used the AP dip a lot, long before all of the contrast/speed paint products came to the market. Strong tone has a very pleasingly smooth and warm finish. The polyurethane varnish leaves a rock-hard protective coat. The downsides are the smell and the mess. It is also not kind to brush bristles - not even turpentine will save them. It is by no means fast, but it is therapeutic to lay down two thin coats of a nice light colour over many models. Seeing 100 models ready for dipping is a nice feeling. I have heard tales of people almost winning painting competitions with the base coat -> dip -> matte varnish -> highlight method.
@jaysonstewart3537
@jaysonstewart3537 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ve been using slapchop for a few weeks now and i agree regarding the pale tones. In fact, when i paint flesh tones i usually start with a warmer tone and use a contrast approach in lieu of a slapchop.
@michaelrussell3890
@michaelrussell3890 2 жыл бұрын
Dip is fantastic for painting skeletons and was my go to method when i had a Tomb Kings army. Money saving tip: wood stain works just as well
@Skulliver-t8q
@Skulliver-t8q 23 күн бұрын
I used to use dip a lot on OVER highlighted models. I'd go quite bright and overstate the transitions, knowing the at the dip would bring things down. Now I use slap chop. I tend to go in and do a drybrush over that, if it still needs a bit more, sometimes an edge highlight too. Then another wash or layer of contrast. I also use a home made Nuln oil over the top. This can give me greater shadows on places the drybrush stages of slap chop might have made a bit too bright and it gives a good hard wearing matte seal at the same time. Since I am "an old", I used a lot of citadel inks back when painting 2nd ed 40k armies. So, sometimes I use contrast or speed paint, over my blocked in colors or bright highlights, to harmonize the contrasts in light and shadow.
@frosty_otter7155
@frosty_otter7155 2 жыл бұрын
This is video has been vey helpful for me as I plan out my feudal guard army, definitely going to use the dip method for the rank and file infantry!
@Xajora
@Xajora 2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing an alternative to dip, just use a light contrast instead of dipping. Skeleton Horde as an example is basically a dip replacement, with the upside of more manual control over where it goes.
@jonesyjones8465
@jonesyjones8465 2 жыл бұрын
great tip! And it doesn't dry glossy.
@WhiterThanAginger
@WhiterThanAginger 2 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing that Slap Chop is a game changer, I’m not convinced. What surprised me was Dip, that is probably my favourite.
@LordSquee
@LordSquee 2 жыл бұрын
I have tried the second version and Duncan is right, it takes an age because the overlap is a problem you have to slow right down to avoid (or spend just as much time fixing). I've never tried slapchip but I want to so I picked up a box of Ork Boyz as a nice test group to see if I can replicate it and how I like it. All in all I'm just super stoked at how the hobby keeps changing and how so many different ways to do the same thing crop up. It's always so nice to have choices :)
@alejandromendez9894
@alejandromendez9894 2 жыл бұрын
I've painted pallid hand death guard with the dip method and I'm a big fan. I basically prime the model white. I color in any green should pads, gold trim, and black or silver weapons. Then I dip and give them a matte spray. It's really easy and they look fantastic.
@joshuahanna9666
@joshuahanna9666 2 жыл бұрын
My speed painting method is a combination of contrast (but without contrast paints) and dipping. I have been doing this since before contrast paints came along. I thin down regular paints with either water, glaze medium or both, then block paint over a white primer. The effect is similar to contrast. Then I dip, except that I use a water based dark brown wood stain and I brush it on generously rather than actually dipping the model in, which is just as fast but gives me more control.
@Phonx-TV
@Phonx-TV 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, thank you Duncan. I would love to see a video with the slap chop method taken to the next level with finer detail to see what can be accomplished. I've not tried it out myself as I'm not sure about the grain finish with the end result.
@tracystephens9104
@tracystephens9104 2 жыл бұрын
Of the three that you profiled in this video I prefer the slap chop method even though I paint my models I unassembled almost exclusively. 😊
@schaaphammersigmar7932
@schaaphammersigmar7932 2 жыл бұрын
A greatly informative video. I personally would love to see speed paint tutorials for newly released models in the future.
@Fredster9984
@Fredster9984 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you compared all 3 methods. I think that speed painting should be rather forgiving, and I agree that slap chop is the best for that. And it yields a decent tabletop standard fast.
@MrMeanSpeaks
@MrMeanSpeaks 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy Slap Chop method as I am terrible at finishing minis. I have painted more minis in the last month than I have in years!!!!
@dutchminiaturehobbyist
@dutchminiaturehobbyist 2 жыл бұрын
best side by side tutorial ❤
@griffglowen5555
@griffglowen5555 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see someone recommend AP dipping cans!
@krismaini4900
@krismaini4900 2 жыл бұрын
Just got the kill team starter set. I will definitely be slap chop painting the entire ork team!
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