would love to see you try a _very_ different underpainting color scheme. What does it look like with pastel colors, or just very different, non-earth tones? cool stuff.
@kena3234Ай бұрын
Maybe you can do an Airbrush 101 video or series so that whenever you break out an airbrush you can say use a large brush or check out this video on how to set up and use an airbrush. I could personally use that because I don't know where to start
@jonnylectitio279Ай бұрын
Theres 100s of videos on the basics of airbrushing miniatures out there for you on KZbin. Like any tool it just takes practice, and thinning paints properly is the most most important part. Vallejo Airbrush thinner and water are your best friend
@basstedsonАй бұрын
Vince Venturella's airbrush video is an absolute godsend. The key to remember is you cannot be lax with the steps, anytime you try to shortcut on an airbrush it will immediately backfire on you.
@donstaunch7895Ай бұрын
yes please!
@andrewbaranyai463Ай бұрын
I would like to see a comparison between the two styles just to see how Jon would go about it
@user-is3ku4tg9onahnotgonnaАй бұрын
Definitely want to see more kingdom death on the channel.
@DrowningInPlasticАй бұрын
Agreed
@columelvin30815 күн бұрын
@@DrowningInPlastic Double-down!
@minipaintingforyouАй бұрын
That’s not a speed painting technique. That’s a talented painter moving his brush quickly 😅
@roger6529Ай бұрын
Just what I thought.
@TrizfaceАй бұрын
Yeah I don't really get the comparison to slapchop. Slapchop is really fast even if you're new. No way a new painter can get even close to these results out of the gate.
@switchkill88Ай бұрын
@@Trizface He never said his technique is for new painters. And for the first commentary. yes its speedpaint since...well... he paint fast. Speedpaint isn't a thing created for new painter. Its a variety of techniques that includes new painter and experimented ones. And the purpose is... painting quickly when you don't want or can't give a lot of time to the hobby.
@mitchthegreatАй бұрын
He explains this in the video. He has to get these painted quick, and to a high level. So he can play the game (advertise). Man has bills to pay. It wasnt advertised as beginner friendly. He even explained the whole airbrush part for the people who get poopy pants about that. If you watch the podcast buried in plastic. He explains certain videos do better with certain subjects and titles etc. Just business bro
@khanayudash2475Ай бұрын
You would be shocked how much a decent underpainting accelerates a paint job, and how much easier it is to make it look good even as a relative newbie. This style of painting isn't just raw talent - it's legitimately extremely quick for the level of quality. As painters, we all have a minimum standard of paint job that we are willing to put on the table. This isn't the fastest way to paint these models, but it's pretty close to the fastest way to paint them to this standard.
@necpwnzАй бұрын
To paint miniatures on such high level spending hour/each you have to spend painting at least couple of years before. Do not underestimate huuuge Jon experience.
@bakamaru3867Ай бұрын
Cabinet of shame needs to appear more frequently lol. Love the video! These model are amazing and even if they are 'speed painted' they look so amazing!
@matthewboutros281329 күн бұрын
I love this Still not clear the exact difference underpainting does though. Here's a video I haven't seen anyone do that I'm desperate for: Does underpainting make a difference? Basically get a bunch of cheap identical models, and paint them all the EXACT SAME color scheme, but some with different colorful undercoats like you did here, one with just a black primer, one with a white primer, one with the slapchop top down lighting, some with contrast paint vs normal paint, etc... and of course one without anything as the control. 🙏🙏
@danielkoski370328 күн бұрын
I agree, I’m wondering if it’s something that has to be seen in person and doesn’t translate well over KZbin? The Blue “under light” and the red highlight are barely visible now
28 күн бұрын
As you mention slapchop, this is the same principle as slapchop. The colour of your paint are based on what light it bounce back so unless you cover an underlying layer in a opaque colour what is underneath will show through. With Slapchop it is various grey shades that by being brighter or darker creates highlights and shadows but if you use colours light a dark blue or a light yellow you will get some of that colour tinting the colour over it. As for how much it shows it depends on the opaqueness of the colours involved, how different colours interact (basic colour theory) and how thick you apply it. There are many painting "canvas painting" channels on KZbin that shows this pretty clearly, and Marco Frisoni have a very good primer on it too.
@TheKluverBucy22 күн бұрын
I did try on my minis 2 years ago and the difference was striking. Just think about the difference a black or white primer makes on your mini !
@fdsadat18 күн бұрын
There is a goobertown video on that, it makes lots of difference on slapchop, this underpaint here is really interesting, will try, underpaint is an easy way to step up your slapchop
@MrPoppysoabm17 күн бұрын
So, just used this technique to paint an oathsworn mini. Was the most fun I have had painting in a long time. Thanks so much for introducing me to it
@Rondo772114 күн бұрын
I just tried it and the speedpaint removes the layers underneath, leaving big black marks... do you have this problem?
@MrPoppysoabm13 күн бұрын
@@Rondo7721 I had this. I just sprayed it with lahmian medium and that acts like a seal on the inks (ink generally are not great at sticking to things). Works fine after that
@koper18528 күн бұрын
I thought id share this for the reader who might be interested, i tryed this technique, i see myself as a moderate painter at best, the finished product while copiing this is far above what i would normaly be able to paint with harder techniques, i didnt have the same inks, so i used contrast paint treu the airbrush! Worked like a charm, thanks ninjon for share this step by step guide
@OleIngvarSteneАй бұрын
I'm a huge fan of those warm, Brom-like colours. Looking great!
@wtfserpicoАй бұрын
What I like about this is that this isn't a speed painting technique that anyone can do. That's exactly what Slap Chop is and why it exists. I like this because it shows you what kind of results you can get, quickly, once you are VERY experienced and want to move quickly. This is less a tutorial on how than it is a motivational video to continue to build experience. Also, Kingdom Death Monster is my favorite game ever so more KDM minis please!
@kylekeenan348528 күн бұрын
It's an intermediate level book, not a beginner book. (Obviously as a metaphor)
@jjpeloquin25 күн бұрын
This has me looking up art classes locally so that I can learn better about placing those undertones for my minis. True story on the motivational part.
@somewhereyouarent29 күн бұрын
Those are some REALLY nice kneestacles you painted at 14:25.
@NigelMillsАй бұрын
I understand new people not having an airbrush and maybe that statement is for them. Which I'm fine with. What make me laugh though is people with huge piles of shame and complain that an airbrush is too expensive. One FOMO box is about the price of decent airbrush and basic compressor. Maybe if if you had an airbrush you might be able to tackle that pile better :)
@vanrussell7772Ай бұрын
💯
@TrizfaceАй бұрын
I don't have a massive pile of shame but for me there just isn't any space for an airbrush. I paint in the lounge on a fold out table. I don't have a spare room or shed to airbrush in. I could fit a huge pile of shame into a cupboard tho
@switchkill88Ай бұрын
for me, i don't see airbrush as a thing for speedpainting since you have a lot to clean. But i'm a lazy @ss painter xD... drybrush, shade and contrast is my way
@MekhamiАй бұрын
@@Trizface a portable airbrush and compressor is on Amazon for like 60 bucks. It's not hard.
@Lhamymolette29 күн бұрын
@@TrizfaceI have a portable airbrush and compressor in the box I use as a booth. It fits in a cupboard and can be set on the dining table.
@blincalex485Ай бұрын
The issue for me is deciding what colours to use for the pre shading
@chaoshead87Ай бұрын
These are beautiful, amazing colors, never would have said speed painted. I am really enjoying your non-gw content, I hope it does well enough that you can continue making it. Thanks for sharing your amazing work.
@001Hatsune4 күн бұрын
Please continue with the Kingdom Death mini painting!!
@ironxYT13 күн бұрын
This is why I love your channel. You discover cool new approaches and encourage us to try them out. I’m so inspired, and can’t wait to try this.
@DeeV4nАй бұрын
I am most impressed with Ninjon's mid-video ad, and couldn't help but wonder how many takes that took.
@DAZZLINRAINBOW4 күн бұрын
I just used this method to paint some infinity minis and I'm not going to lie it brought me to a new level of painting.. this is literally like a level up moment
@stochasticagencyАй бұрын
I often just come here for the intros; well done, sir, well done indeed.
@jonathandavis4819Ай бұрын
It kinda reminds me of the grumpy toilet from Look Who's Talking
@superbuu666Ай бұрын
Bs
@mandasity4 күн бұрын
ya I'm gonna need a part 2 to this with more explanation and examples cause it's awesome
@xi_NeoLux_ixАй бұрын
Am I the only one that thinks his sponsorship video was brilliant? Need to see more of that character. Also... Minis were on point AF. Will definitely try out this multi layer airbrush method. Always something to learn.
@royalstonmusic20 күн бұрын
That sponsor video was genius 😂
@c.m.7071Ай бұрын
I think you just created the most visually pleasing speed paint process yet - and one I'm actually going to try. This would be so easy to assembly-line and knock out quite a lot of models and if they each came out anywhere close to what you created here, you'd have a really sharp looking bunch of models in no time at all.
@TheRedBardАй бұрын
Your last year or so of videos has def encouraged me to experiment more with the airbrush and to lay down a lot more heavy foundations with it before going to the brush. I really like the use of inks and should use mine the same way
@double.skulls27 күн бұрын
This is absolutely gold. I suppose the process could be reversed using the cool tones on top with warm shadows if you're going for a cold environment on the miniature as well
@MalcolmPughАй бұрын
The cabinet is a great bit!
@tempusavatarАй бұрын
Thanks for the video. I've been doing the zenithal steps with Payne's Grey and Sunny Skintone for a while now, and using those 2 colors as my universal shade and highlight mixers to reinforce. If you don't go with all the steps Jon does in this video, or want to work up to this level, please try this as a truncated mode. After prime, zenithal Payne's from the bottom, Sunny from the top, and use those colors as your downshift and upshift blenders.
@nicholassmith5206Ай бұрын
Mate.... brilliant looking minis. Gonna definitely give this a try
@vincentbuscemi6771Ай бұрын
I absolutly love the color scheme for these guys. All the warm red and oranges just look so good together
@dmDerZorn21 күн бұрын
Love that. Had a similiar idea on how to color-prime for speedpaints using my developing airbrush skills, but this seem like perfection to me. Will try. And feel very inspired by this. Thanks for sharing.
@HarleyFirestorm25 күн бұрын
After 30+ years of painting the traditional way, this video has inspired me to finally get into airbrushing. Thank you. I also own much to much KDM :)
@aslbaron119 күн бұрын
I like this technique a lot! The models came out really well!
@knuttonnesen514927 күн бұрын
Inspired bit of technique with the air brush sir, and unbelievable how quickly it adds life to a piece Vs the flatness of current speed painting. Put into practice straight away and absolutely love the effect, and really enjoyed painting the rest, which I can't say I have felt in a while! Props mate!
@figureartoutАй бұрын
Nice video Jon, I like that if you watch your other speed painting videos, you can see the progression of the process😊
@badpanda664426 күн бұрын
Amazing , would really love to see more models done with this technique!
@kena3234Ай бұрын
One of the only channels I watch the ads for. Its just so entertaining
@Lowzone16Ай бұрын
Wow.... Just at step two and it looks better than my usual paint job.... Thanks for this video it's awesome
@mcauliffeck28 күн бұрын
That's Amazing John, i love this look, and you definetly deserve the acolades and awards you've received. this is pure evidence of the progress you've made as a painter!
@abaddon755824 күн бұрын
thanks that was an idea I wanted to explore when I'll be back to painting, since I saw slapshot and the contrast paint coming out, and weirdly enough you are the first one I saw using it on youtube but maybe I didn't search deep enough
@hereticalhobby12 күн бұрын
This is such a cool process, definitely going to try this
@joshuatatton531Ай бұрын
I’d like to see how you do cold tone schemes with the same method. Like something that is in an icy freezing setting
@sir_quirkus7206Ай бұрын
Anyone who complains about you using an airbrush needs to get an airbrush and realize the amazing tool that it is.
@artycharrАй бұрын
noone ive heard complain about airbrushes complains about the method but rather the cleanup, its never mentioned just how impossible it is to properly clean those fuckers. did you use enamel? its now part of the airbrush, did you backwash it? the paint is now inside the body. did you need a specific chemical to remove the paint from the airbrush? its not sold in your area and costs a premium online. seriously if i didnt have to clean the thing every time than I would vouch for it myself, its great when it works but rarely works.
@ChumdubgessАй бұрын
@@artycharrI hear what you say but often people take unnecessary steps while cleaning. I strongly recommend looking at some non miniature airbrush artist for tips especially usage/cleaning. It will change everything. I take my airbrush apart maybe 2 times a year. Otherwise I just clean it and put it away with minimal effort. We have a misinformed culture around airbrushing in the mini hobby especially with cleaning and maintenance. Wish some of these influencers would actually some more research!
@artycharrАй бұрын
@@Chumdubgess when I've sprayed the cleaning fluid through its never enough the nozzle clogs, when I've backwashed and poured it but the paint ends up inside the handle. So I have to strip it and deep clean but the best is the eventual second time you use the brush and use paint thinners to dilute your paint. Only to have the last paint still be hidden inside coming out 2 minutes into spraying a white model turning it brown or red or grey. Personally rattle cans are the way. Sure its costly but so are cleaning chemicals and specialist gear needed to paint what is essentially a hobby.
@Hardcover_PilotАй бұрын
Sure. Give me the $500 I'd need to get an airbrush, compressor, paint, vent hood, and cleaning supplies, and then tell me exactly where in my tiny-ass house with pets and a roommate with chemically-triggered allergies/asthma I'm supposed to use it and I'll be more than happy to. (Sarcasm aside, yes, I'm sure it's great, but for some of us it's just not and will never be a practical option.)
@Alais_NorizaXIVАй бұрын
@@Hardcover_Pilot i live in a 18sqm room in a shared appartment, the compressor takes barely any space, you dont need a fume hood (as long as you stick to normal acrylic paints) and everyone who complains about them being difficult to clean is either completely incompetent or lets the paint sit in there forever. and 500 bucks is way overblown, compressor 100 bucks (or 80 for one without a tank, if you dont mind it always running while using it) and 20 for the cheap airbrush from amazon (perfectly fine for the average painter). 10 bucks each for 200ml of Vallejo cleaner and thinner and you're set, thats under 150
@Treppenwitz_2 күн бұрын
I’m excited to give this a shot on my minis!
@deadknight1402Ай бұрын
The guy with the shit on his knees could be using something like monster hearts surgically attached to his legs, possibly to get increased blood-flow for when they're running and jumping. The idea of attaching monster body parts to oneself to get various benefits is also a thing in the Rippers setting for Savage Worlds if you're interested in exploring that concept.
@jimboonlyone28 күн бұрын
Great to see someone using a classic technique, underpainting has been used in oils for centuries. Great work.
@trynda170117 күн бұрын
For speed painting, those minis look incredible! I'm insanely jealous. 👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎
@bigH10129 күн бұрын
Very cool ideas on showing your foundation is the most important step needed in speed painting.
@Sprite882219 күн бұрын
That quick NMM was awesome!
@vanrussell7772Ай бұрын
I've really enjoyed going along a lot of your speedpainting for quality journey. You're making great content, and I love seeing your constant improvements in both painting and production
@matejkuselj588126 күн бұрын
I usually spend 2-3h on minis I want them to stand out. My approach is the one you taught us Ninjon, Zenithal undercoat, add additional titanium white over zenithal to make first highlights, use contrasts(speedpaints, oil washes, additional highlights with acrylics. if I can get to 50% of your quality in the same amount of time it usually takes me, I'm a winner already :) a good excuse to get some extra paints ;)
@SemperTyranosaurus26 күн бұрын
Love seeing your take on the Kingdom Death Survivors. Knowing the game, I wouldn't be shocked if the kneepads actually were testes.
@SKS_66615 күн бұрын
Yep, I do all my painting in ONE step too - with 24 sub steps only... Your painting is GREAT - no need to try and minimise how many steps it takes to paint a model well - and your talent adds the final element. But it's NOT only a few steps...
@aaronwindham606528 күн бұрын
I'm sure this is a dumb question, but I'm very confused how you're determining what to paint red and yellow in the beginning when you're priming? It's not top down it seems to be coming from the middle but then it's not every single higher raised area some are lower raised, how are you determining what to hit first and what to cover in red and leave white
@stuff6218Ай бұрын
I don't paint much, but whenever I do it's normally to try out one of your methods. Really takes the pain out of the traditional approach and keeps it fun!
@dadris98277 күн бұрын
You definitively win a subscriber! Greetings from France !
@bradkaufman3299Ай бұрын
Just yesterday I was watching KZbin videos and searching the internet for this very topic of using colors other than white, grey, and black for underpainting. Seems you have combined a bit of en brunaille and ebauche style underpainting. Well done!
@DylanBartle-il9xcАй бұрын
Jonchop 1.0 👌👌 (Slapjon sounded a bit too aggressive) love the outcome and have the perfect model to try this out on. Thanks as always for the inspiration
@VEE-EYE-EM9 күн бұрын
The Cabinet of Shame gave me horrifying Requiem for a Dream flashbacks
@michaelseldritchАй бұрын
Love seeing different minis and these are awesome! I’m going to give this level of undershading a go
@MrNZbuzz19 күн бұрын
They are really nicely painted, No surprise though.
@DarrylAdamsАй бұрын
As Louise from Rouge Hobbies says: Slap Chop is too powerful. That is understated
@natferringtonАй бұрын
I absolutely love your intros and videos! Seriously this is why I subscribe, best intros on KZbin hands down!
@jasonhinkle9393Ай бұрын
I'm always amazed by your choice of color. I wish I could get past Red, Green, Blue. You're ranger, in particular, is bangin'! I, too, love the ranger class, and it never occurred to me to have one with such vibrant colors. It makes me think of a ranger in a tropical setting, incorporating parrot feathers into his outfit.
@svensvensson2724Ай бұрын
I've been saying this is the way. No more boring grayish paintjobs. Nobody ever listened.
@nefarioustim29 күн бұрын
Loving these Kingdom Death miniatures. Definitely need to invest in a few of these for my backlog.
@mindyfranke5279Ай бұрын
I do love your sense of humor; and great video in total; depth of color is one of my hardest things to accomplish, so great tips.
@sebbychou28 күн бұрын
I can vouch for this technique, it's almost exactly what I do except I use multiple layers of washes instead of contrast.
@MarkoSeldo26 күн бұрын
Right, I need to find a "throwaway" model (i.e. not part of my current army project) to try this on!
@IIItiberius28 күн бұрын
This is probably one of your best videos for so many reasons. Great system of painting, but you really break down the steps very well. You also cover the "why" of each step and I think the results are soooooo good! I have rarely been so excited to try a new system after a video. Thank you!
@jakecrowe379729 күн бұрын
Love to see your KD:M content! Gonna’ take this technique for a spin. 🎨
@oscarpalm486320 күн бұрын
I would have loved to see the support character, the woman with the book and glasses, have her dress be red-yellow.
@kevingroteАй бұрын
Dude, those look incredible! When I use my airbrush, 95% of the time I just use it for quick priming+zenithal highlighting. However, this video has inspired me to use it for more.
@christopherdavis6525Ай бұрын
I love that you are doing more KDM videos
@omnitoАй бұрын
Great vid Jon. As usual, entertaining and educational. Exceptional results for a quicker method.
@p0lda_paints_stuff7 күн бұрын
You're telling me I've been using a super secret new slap chop busting technique this whole time without knowing it!? 🤯
@Orneryamerican27 күн бұрын
Random question, after building up the inks to get those warm tones, would you add a varnish before going over with the contrast paints?
@TGPROject101Ай бұрын
Love seeing Kdm, I just finished paint all the monsters in main game and now on to gc expansion
@annihilationtextofficialca8941Ай бұрын
As usual, brilliant intro. I love Friday mornings! Take care Jon, keep cranking out the excellent videos.
@Smooth_Lime_Nine29 күн бұрын
I love your vid style. Great add too. Keep it up and much love bro
@OniGanonАй бұрын
Seems like you could cut down some time by using a purple primer with yellow zenithal/drybrush.
@MoleMantle29 күн бұрын
I've been following your work for maybe the last couple of years (since getting back into the hobby). Not saying it was ever bad, otherwise I wouldn't have watched, buy hot diggity damn your work has just progressed and become so consistently beautiful.
@markward1803Ай бұрын
Seen a lot of speed paint processes but the final result on them looks awesome especially for minis with a lot of detail. Also think using something like villainy inks to boost the contrast even more would be an easy additional step to add. Added bonus got a load of kingdom death models to paint myself.
@SamsminisАй бұрын
I think the secret fourth step is having an experienced understanding of colour theory to make a cohesive model work, and not a clashing rainbow mess when you attempt this yourself. 😂
@draksinusАй бұрын
Actually, not so much. I mean, color theory works to an extent. But there was a technique that he used, without talking about. Mother color. Underpainting several tones, and the yellow/orange was the prevailing tone for zenithal. Then, when he went to paint the highlights, he mix in a small bit of the prevailing color into each highlight, which adds cohesiveness. It isn't something new, but I've heard it called the "mother color". It ties it all together.
@cbjewelzАй бұрын
Very cool technique. I'd love to see how this works on a different type of mini like a Space Marine.
@louisbeelen139629 күн бұрын
Thats a great technice to use! Loved the intro of the boxes and the talking closest
@LemurKrazy29 күн бұрын
Best step 1 result ever. Amazing.
@AndrewTheMexican28 күн бұрын
For those like me without an airbrush, I was already doing half this process by introducing non grey/white into the slapchop method. Drybrushing with purples and blues for the mid/bright tones, or brown and yellow for warmer pallettes. Even did a necrotic offwhite green for a bright tone. What I was not doing before was thinning the contrast or speedpaints to further bring down their opacity and let more of those undershades affect the color, that’s a really intriguing step I’ll try on some future models.
@MarkProdger13Ай бұрын
Bro you are a legend. Your videos make me so happy to see. I am a Kingdom Death fanatic as well and I love high quality speed painting. Keep up the good work! I'm going to join your Patreon
@jefferypreston878124 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@tenador19021 күн бұрын
I would love if you could do some others videos with this way to paint
@zackcook5123Ай бұрын
This is a fantastic method, ill definitely be adopting this method 👍
@PandarenBa22 күн бұрын
I wish Ninjon would show us the technique needed for normal brushes, doing what he does with airbrushes. It's mentioned often in videos that "you can do this with brushes too, you don't need an airbrush" but never displayed.
@project_hollow662718 күн бұрын
Probably because its just quicker with an airbrush.
@elijahdprophetАй бұрын
Picked up my first KDM mini at Gencon last weekend, should be a fun painting project and maybe it'll end up in a warband somewhere
@monsterofvalhalla3397Ай бұрын
Some of your best... these look fantastic. Both the finish and minis themselves...
@AlbruvАй бұрын
What an incredible paint job. You’re awesome
@wannagetrowdy126Ай бұрын
I actually ended up doing something very similar while learning out to use my air brush on Skaven. What sucks is i'm bad at painting so they looked better after airbrush work than they do now with paint 🤣
@RealKilliАй бұрын
Great technique! I would just love to have a detailed idea about the underpainting. I do not quite get it yet 😅
@donaldkhoganАй бұрын
Great technique with an excellent result. Also holy heck those models are super nice.
@antigrav6004Ай бұрын
I haven't touched a brush for a few months before today. Finally got a commission done, i have a few left to finish and then I can go back to my projects
@rhag1394Ай бұрын
The results speak for themselves. These look great!