DUNE: A Brief History of The Butlerian Jihad (Encyclopedia)

[@cuttlefish1801]

the butlerian jihad is what makes dune so fascinating. instead of standard cliches about sentient ai or complex machinery, the whole thing is geared towards the inherent power of humanity and our organic capabilities. the series is 60 years old now and it still seems so fresh and original. “thou shalt not disfigure the soul.”

[@tnynfox1669]

Flesh is weak, heretic

[@longwlenguyen4214]

@@tnynfox1669 Where are the toasters you promise us?

[@tnynfox1669]

@@longwlenguyen4214 maybe the heretics destroyed them

[@longwlenguyen4214]

@@tnynfox1669 Hereteks!!!??? By the omnissiah could they be built entirely out of cyberdongs?

[@ikagura]

Terminator/The Matrix became cliche indeed.

[@louiepatouie4168]

Butlarian Jihad based off 19th century writer Samuel Butler, his work "Erewhon". Origins of sci-fi machines evolving on their own, instead of being fully created golems merely running amok.

[@persephone2706]

Thanks for this!

[@M05tly]

Excellent, so the author was well read and would take bits and peices of history learned, alter and fit to suit his universe. I have been struggling to understand how one person could craft such a seemingly impossibly detailed universe. This would be the answer then yes?

[@mynameisazz]

Erewhon supermarket????

[@jehoiakimelidoronila5450]

Wait what...??? I checked & it's real. Maybe the machines & ai originated there to help out the employees 😂🤣

[@aaronarguelles8322]

Your posts are always welcome at any time Quinn. My coworkers working the night shift at the hospital are digging your Dune videos and now think I’m not so needy after all. Thanks man.

[@chrisgibson5267]

And no mention whatsoever of giant walking war machines.... Thank you so much. Sanity returns.

[@Nodux359]

There was also no mention of forced unneccesary abortions in the actual novels.

[@PaulieFetz]

Such a great narrative of the Encyclopedia's account. And far more interesting than Brian Herbert's prequels. This original Jihad narrative feels more plausible, that humans would become dependent on machines, and even sacrifice something of themselves for comfort or security. The Jihad was about reclaiming humanity, but at times went too far and sacrificed lives for an idea. Meanwhile, Brian Herbert's reads like some fan fiction of the Terminator or Matrix trilogy, where EVIL robots have enslaved humans because....reasons and lulz. Why can't we have a proper novelization of the Jihad?!

[@aesop1451]

Many people would die today if technological society would be destroyed, but maybe that's the price we pay for being free. It's just an idea if you think we'd still be human if we uploaded our consciousnesses onto computers. Personally I think that being human involves the five senses and being free to make mistakes. Notice how everything in our society revolves around money. That's why there is so little great culture compared to the past ages. Homer wasn't trying to get the Iliad on the NYT bestsellers list.

[@rodjacksonx]

@@aesop1451 - As far as "content" or creative works, the problem boils down to ideas being commodified in modern society, IMO: basically, the concept of intellectual property. It's outlived its usefulness, and we are already seeing many of the problems resulting from trying to grant legal ownership to specific patterns of information.

[@Whatever94-i4u]

@@aesop1451 Free??? I'm sorry, but where were the people free in Dune under an extremely oppressive feudal system? Or the God Emperor's rule? "Free"... Huh, nice one.

[@tnynfox1669]

As a child of the Omnissiah this was pure torture to me. *Binaric raptor screech*. And I loved it.

[@Diogolindir]

Stay calm, citizen of the empire, for the God Emperor tolerates Ixians as yourself.

[@champisthebunny6003]

The Jihad, is explained in the original novel. The Jihad, was a rebellion against the general state of humanity at the time. Humans, had become utterly reliant and dependent upon computers, thinking machines, and AI, for the day-to-day management of society. The revolt, was to right this state of affairs and make humans capable of managing their own affairs again, rather than relying on machines to do it for them. Humans at the time of the Butlerian Jihad, could be characterized in the main, as being weak, soft, decadent, likely not very capable overall. This is why the guilds and schools develop in the aftermath. Mentats, to harness and greatly expand human thinking and calculating, exceeding even what AI was capable of. The Bene Gessert, human psychology, intuition, and a host of other skills honed to an amazing degree. The technologists, forced to obey the dictates of the Jihad, develop machines and devices capable of maintaining an interstellar empire w/o recourse to computers, and so on. There is a widespread abandonment of complex, labor-saving machines, and convenience devices as well. Mechanical and muscle powered, is preferred over machines and virtual devices. What machines that are permitted, try to mimic biological creatures and systems, where possible. Arfifical and synthetic, is largely replaced by the natural. This is the real Jihad. Not FH talenetless sons cash grab about giant robots with brains-in-jars, waging war against humanity. It is also implied, but that some humans may have taken control of AI sytems, and directed them to enslave humans. Whether something like this occurred is not wholly certain. If so, it would have fueled the Jihad even more.

[@durstein]

Much more interesting than in the prequel books

[@zunipus]

Thank you. The concept of the Butlerian Jihad is of course of important concern as so-called "A.I." becomes shoved upon us by marketing in pursuit of financial profit, as opposed to human benefit.

[@kauemoura]

I really appreciate your videos, they give me flashbacks of when I read the books. Thank you!

[@justinfoster5100]

Hell yeah. Thx for doing the extented books

[@jamesbrost1367]

This isn't the extended books... Those have a better story.

[@Shan_Dalamani]

@@jamesbrost1367 No, they do not. The KJA/BH books are crap.

[@jamesbrost1367]

@@Shan_Dalamani maybe you just don't like the idea of a psychopathic robot ripping humans apart and rhrowing their innards onto a canvas in a desprerate attempt to prove that he is capable of true artificial intelligence because he can create "art"... Much better plot than a few references frank herbert ever published for the butlerian jihad

[@Shan_Dalamani]

@@jamesbrost1367 Why should FH have published more, other than to explain why the Imperium of Paul Atreides' time was as it was? No, I don't like the idea of a psychopathic robot doing anything. I prefer intelligent science fiction, not the repetitious lowest-common-denominator garbage of KJA/BH.

[@rainer1980]

Keep in mind that The Butlerian Jihad was alluded to long before The Terminator's cautionary tale on Skynet, and the dangers of giving up too much authority, and thinking output to A.I. because of the danger that it will see humanity, and individual thinking as a threat. Nonetheless, it's just a variation on the same overall theme.

[@VigilanteAgumon]

And in turn, Rossum's Universal Robots (R.O.R.) by Karel Čapek predated both of them. Not only was the term "robot" first coined there, but the idea of a robot uprising as well.

[@richard1493]

_From the moment I understood the strength of my flesh, it empowered me._

[@dansmachine9360]

The Thinking Machine is man's hubris made real!!

[@theboard3476]

I love Dune lore so much because the of the vastness of time. It’s so far into the future that when studying it’s history, it’s seem so long ago. For example the BJ seems so far in the past given the main story but in reality it’s literally thousands of years in the future in regards to present time.

[@roddmcleodable]

love this. would love a 30 minute version!

[@clake791]

As would I.

[@zach4008]

Love your videos so much man. Could you please do an in-depth explanation of the Jihad?? I feel like they touched on it so little in the books, but it sounds so interesting. Would love to hear your explanation of it!

[@kaphasibad8369]

Short but sweet as ever ...I anticipate my next visit into the Dune Universe via your Narition...Cheers Good Brother

[@oddish2253]

Obviously a character modeled after Joan of Ark.

[@barrybend7189]

I'll just hide my Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy and all of its recording devices somewhere safe on all worlds and get a good scoop on history.

[@alanpennie8013]

Barry Bend Careful you don't metamorphose into a giant bird

[@barrybend7189]

@@alanpennie8013 oh don't worry.

[@tenaciousrodent6251]

Sometimes i want to smash my computer too. Just yesterday, actually.

[@alanpennie8013]

Cute Justice I bet the origin of the Jihad was that one error message on a really bad day which just pushed Ms Butler over the edge.

[@merrittanimation7721]

@@alanpennie8013 She didn't want anyone to figure about her weird porn tastes thus went about destroying any and all possible trace of it.

[@Shan_Dalamani]

@@alanpennie8013 Read the Encyclopedia article. What happened was that an AI "doctor" aborted Jehanne's full-term baby as she was about to give birth.

[@jasonsantos3037]

Yeah that's what people fear about AI in the far future would be like

[@Floyd1138]

I had wrongly assumed butlerian was named due to the robots being butlers :\

[@alanpennie8013]

eleven38 Share and enjoy!

[@tatitorodriguez376]

Lol’kind of like your idea better

[@Quandris]

I assumed the same!! Jihad against the “butlers.” Huh.

[@legion999]

I thought it was a rebellion of butlers

[@DocWolph]

"At least you admitted your error."

[@chiefwiggi]

cheers realy start to like your content. At first I thought it was a bit lame but know I'm back into Dune thanks to you.

[@GrimHyper]

You're editing is always so good.

[@tristanrodriguez3653]

Thanks to this I can read The Machine Crusade knowing the backstory thank you

[@agustinorero1668]

Thanks for your videos! They're great. I've never read the Dune Encyclopedia nor I knew about the Yihad story in it, but in this case, I think that the Butlerian Yihad story in Dune Legends is far better.

[@paulrugg6040]

Thanks for another brilliant production!

[@redcapetimetraveler7688]

"illerda", "cathagos"; those are very inspired by the punic wars' narratives: ilerda/lerida is a city in Spain , and cathago is too obvious for explaination ;)

[@captaintyrrell6428]

'Carthago delenda est'... and so it was done

[@_robustus_]

Yup we re-use placenames all the time

[@askani21]

Question: do we know exactly where was located the Old Imperium? And where the Scattering took place? Never in the books was it mentionned if the Imperium was limited to our galaxy, or if it extended into multiple galaxies. Before the Guild, obviously humanity was limited to the galaxy, but after the Guild, planets could have been colonized in any galaxy. The Scattering could have taken place in other galaxies too, since the no-ships could fold space.

[@redhippopotamus9144]

It's said that it encompasses "the known universe", which is kinda like how ancient empires would claim to rule the "oecumene" or all of the known earth but it's likely "the known universe" just means mapped and inhabited; not the observable universe. This is because most of the distances and stars referenced encompass ranges of tens to hundreds light years, so not multiple galaxies, just a small portion of the milky way most likely.

[@brianreiter6471]

I just ‘like’ the video before it loads; you know it’s going to be good

[@ailill5458]

Dune is more relevant today than it was when frank first wrote it.

[@Reverandfatdave]

This version of the Jihad sounds a bit more interesting than the Anderson/Brian Herbert one. I'm on the 3rd of those books with my 10 y/o son right now. We wanted to listen to the prequels before I got him into the real stuff, but the prequels are pulp aimed at teenagers. Not saying they're not good in their own right, but they pale when compared to Frank's masterworks. And the version of the Jihad they lay out while more detailed, is not as interesting sounding. Their treatment of Holtzman was kind of dumb in my opinion and they made Norma a Mary Sue.

[@thegoodwin]

Norma Sue

[@thegoodwin]

@@professorerudite , I have read both and I agree that Frank's works are a bit hard to read and does take time to understand. Brian's works is considered as Frank Herbert lite and it is more digestible and easy to read. I even speed read thru Sandworms of Dune within a day or two.

[@Shan_Dalamani]

@@thegoodwin Frank Herbert's books are a fine gourmet meal for the mind. The Anderson/Herbert books are stale, generic frozen food that's basically tasteless.

[@thegoodwin]

@@Shan_Dalamani , in other words, KJA/BH books are referred to as "McDune." Their books are like a "Happy meal". They are fast but not a gourmet.

[@Shan_Dalamani]

@@thegoodwin Basically, yes. With the exception of cheeseburgers. I prefer McDonalds cheeseburgers to the A&W ones (known as "Mama Burgers").

[@pbbrown1963]

I need to reread the original series and maybe the extended series (by his son). Good stuff! Thanks, Quinn.

[@BriarLeaf00]

I'm such a huge fan of these videos, they are so well done. I'm glad you got so many out before the films, let's face it, a lot of people haven't/won't read the books and its great that people have another resource for accessing Herbert's ideas. My only real wish is that you'd do the same for the Culture before the greedy bastards get thier grubby mitts all over it.

[@jauregi2726]

Thx! Great video! What do you think about the "Legends of Dune" novels version of the Jihad?

[@Shan_Dalamani]

They're crap.

[@jauregi2726]

@@Shan_Dalamani 😂

[@duncanidaho4787]

Those are crap.

[@RedStar-kz7wr]

How so ?

[@duncanidaho4787]

@@RedStar-kz7wr Poorly imagined and worse executed glorified fanfic that mutilate and insult the ideas of the original saga.

[@DustinMeyerPhotography]

Love the electronic vocal effect 👍🏻

[@zebadiahwitch]

this rocks! so to-the-point! thank u

[@SMiki55]

Who else watching this in the era of soulless AI "art" belched by corporations and techbros?

[@mrstarfishh33]

How did the jihad start w/o tech... How did they use their ships? Was spice already a thing?

[@Supersweetguy]

@mrstarfishh33 : Based on what i've searched, the jihad started because the machines ripped of a pregnant Serena Butler. That was the ultimate cause of the war.

[@karlykonz9617]

Basically one of the robots killed Serena's baby and helped trigger the war

[@Mwuhahaha]

Please do more on the Machine Crusade! Also... please become a fan of the Wheel of Time, so I can watch your videos about it :) Thanks for your hard work!

[@thomascorey2676]

I just read The Wheel of Time Series last year, the whole series, FANTASTIC. I already am thinking of reading it again.

[@Mwuhahaha]

@@thomascorey2676 Isn't it great? It has a special place in my heart. I have read the series 3 times since I got into it, and picked up a few of the books randomly just to read them. It's just so massive, it is very hard to get people into them; quite the daunting task. I would love to see this channel feature Wheel of Time content. Hopefully when the show airs it gets more popular. (fingers crossed that the show is done well)

[@thomascorey2676]

@@Mwuhahaha The friend who introduced them to me didn't like the last three written by Brandon Sanderson, he was crazy for Robert Jordan though. I guess I'm not as discerning, I couldn't put any of them down and then went into mourning after finishing "A Memory of Light".

[@duncanidaho4787]

I always thought that Ix were older than the Jihad. It´s great to learn something.

[@Katharsis1801]

Good vids as always...keep it up

[@rullmourn1142]

Thanks Quinn.

[@tallmikbcroft6937]

Great work!

[@Shan_Dalamani]

I have a significant quibble with this video. The Bene Gesserit did not arise after the Jihad. If you re-read the Encyclopedia article, it is clearly stated that Jehanne Butler WAS a Bene Gesserit, and was in fact part of the Kwisatz Haderach breeding program. In fact, her unborn daughter, Sarah, would have been the mother of the Kwisatz Haderach. After Sarah's abortion, the Bene Gesserit had to backtrack and start over; it took over 10,000 years before the breeding program (and Jessica's departure from it) created Paul Atreides.

[@persephone2706]

I wanna hear more about J. Bulter.

[@siphesihledlokolo4313]

More content! Thank you. 😍

[@VeeraBun]

The audio is pretty low in this video! cool space robot Jihad though 👏👽

[@jamesliehr619]

Very good!

[@Monoaux]

I gots a question; WAAAAAY back in Dune 1 Gaius Helen Mohiam mentions something like "It should be thou shalt not make counterfeits of the human mind" which kind of implies that they were making copies of a specific person's mind. Is this idea ever brought again in the Dune books?

[@Shan_Dalamani]

"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind." That's part of the basic message of the Orange Catholic Bible. It's not a specific man that is meant, it's _any_ man (or woman). By the time of Gaius Helen Mohiam (and long before), artificial intelligence/thinking machines are considered anathema - things so heinous that there's an extremely strong religious taboo about them.

[@punishedbearzerker5400]

Hehehehehehe... ... ... "Butt"

[@oddish2253]

Ass

[@jamesquinn6662]

Anything from Brian I consider non-cannon. He mustve really hated his dad

[@VishnuZutaten]

How are thinking machines defuined? they clearly used electronics..?

[@knightshousegames]

What counts as a thinking machine though? That definition feels incredibly vague. Like, is a calculator a thinking machine? A PC? A GPS? I feel like theres no way you could have a space faring civilization without ANY sort of computer. Like even if you have the navigators doing all the calculations, you need some way to feed those calculations into the holtzman drive.

[@lrieish]

English captions would be appreciated..

[@Demolitiondude]

Wait. Wasn't the jihad 10k years before dune?

[@thegoodwin]

BG as stated in the video is before guild. The current calendar for first Dune book took place in AG (after guild) or something like that, so the Butlerian Jihad happened 10k years ago.

[@Demolitiondude]

@@thegoodwin I know that part of the timeline. But 192 bg sounds really close to the events of dune.

[@thegoodwin]

@@Demolitiondude , it does and first Dune book place in 10,190 AG. Here is link to the Dune wiki that covers the timeline at dune.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_(Expanded_Dune)

[@Demolitiondude]

Not to mention that it took Paul a biblical generation to produce. For some weird reason it feels to fast.

[@robcohen7678]

I wish you had detailed the events immediately before the Jihad began and talked about the spark that set it off involving robot infanticide.

[@Shan_Dalamani]

The KJA/BH books are not applicable here.

[@robcohen7678]

@@Shan_Dalamani oh, I guess I forgot. I really liked that story. Those books aren't written very elegantly but they have some really fun scenes and plot points.

[@5Lanius5]

is the encyclopedia cannon ?, because it describes another orign to the sardaukar and corrino other the original one

[@thegoodwin]

I don't think it is officially Canon. But, it is extended Dune material.

[@5Lanius5]

So if it is not cannon ( it can´t be as it contradicts many things from the original series) then why does it exist?

[@thegoodwin]

@@5Lanius5 , there could be implied tiers of Canon. There is Frank Herbert canon, which is the novels he wrote. Then, there is Brian Herbert canon, Frank's son. Then there is extended Canon published at around the same time as Frank's Dune book. Also, the reason for it to exist is to add on background info for those who want to knows more about Dune when Frank's Dune books were published. Even though it is not Canon, it is a food for thought for the Dune enthusiast back in the day.

[@5Lanius5]

So answer me this please because i can't figure it out wich is true: are sardaukar the early janissary like troops/ culture after the buttler guy became corrino or are they founded by the sardau tribe/ empire that were present before they themselves became corrino

[@thegoodwin]

@@5Lanius5 , it is hard to say which came first. If going by the Dune novels (Frank and his son, Brian), then the Saudaukar came after Butler person became Corrino. I never recall hearing about the Saudaukar being originated from the saudau tribe.

[@ithemba]

But... How did they manage an interstellar jihad before the guild? How does the dune canon account for FTL travel before the guild?

[@keegancourtney78]

They had FTL/space folding before the guild it was just done by advanced computer systems to plot the course of a ship. The Guild was only arose because of the Butlarian Jihad destroyed all the machines hence the need to rely on the Guild Navigators.

[@DavelawTexas]

Neither answer is correct. Herbert was an expert on Dystopian literature. Erewhon by Samuel Butler includes an uprising against anything mechanical hence the Butlerian Jihad.

[@andrewg4639]

Wait there are two versions of the Butlerian Jihad?

[@stevenirizarry1304]

Yes The Brian version And the encyclopedia version

[@JonaRosalinaRose]

Brife indeed. No explanation as to WHY it happened. and I as someone who has not read the books is left wondering.

[@mariakelly5]

Wasn't the leader of The Butler Jihad Serena Butler?

[@erichusayn]

How about a video on the religions of the dune universe? I find the idea of buddhislam very interesting....

[@elizabethjansen2684]

Are you sure you want to go there? I recently had someone try to lecture me about those 2 religions without realizing that in some areas they have already been combined. Love people that don't know what they're talking about trying to explain something to you and getting it completely wrong.

[@erichusayn]

@@elizabethjansen2684 still interesting to hear someone's ideas whether or not they're correct or i agree.

[@elizabethjansen2684]

@@erichusayn ideas yes, being lectured is another matter altogether especially when they insist you're utterly wrong. Nearly as irritating as people that demand a source when you tell them repeatedly it's publicly available knowledge.

[@wolfgangervin2582]

I wonder if the Jihad would have been such a disastrous overcorrection had Butler lived?

[@Cowboydjrobot]

Wolfgang Ervin probably. When you get a group of people wrapped up in some radical notion it becea self perpetuating. Just look at the internment of the Japanese in ww2 or the communism scares in the cold war. Once people accepted attacking their neighbors, no one leader can stop them

[@lisat9555]

I like Frank Herbert as much as anyone else and I like Brian Herbert books I much prefer the origin of the butlerian jihad that Frank Herbert's son gave I like the ancestor of the atreides that they gave vorian atreides and one of the thinking machines they destroyed was a cymek assignment that actually heading to tradies brain in it for Ian's father was the cymek general Agamemnon

[@GB-sh9st]

Particularly excellent IoIaF vid

[@lukevankleef4245]

And this is why Dune wouldn't get another movie anytime soon. Dropping the word Jihad even once in today's political climate is going to send both sides into a mad frenzy.

[@OspreyKnight]

already in preproduction www.imdb.com/title/tt1160419/ The problem isn't that it isn't getting a movie, it's that it's not getting a series like Game of Thrones or the Expanse.

[@lukevankleef4245]

Well I'll be damned. And I agree, a Game of Thrones like series would be sweet!

[@bebos1262]

How much of a bet that they change it to Butlerian "Crusade".

[@lukevankleef4245]

I can see that happening.

[@miguelpereira9859]

They should stick to their guns and tell idiots to fuck off. Insensitive morons shouldn't get in the way of Herbert's vision

[@70agrr]

I enjoyed the 3 jihad books, not as deep as Herberts originals, but thoroughly enjoyable/ backstory sci fi non the less,am afraid nowadays it seems people are being very ponsy so unless its a masterpiece its described as pulpy,

[@_robustus_]

Julianne Moore at 3:39

[@kitten2799]

Great vid. But Crusade>Jihad.

[@ifrazali3052]

Crusaders lost all their wars against Mujahideen

[@kitten2799]

@@ifrazali3052 My Emperor never faild his crusades.

[@sonofnike2800]

@@ifrazali3052 Wrong. They conquered the Levant. Reconquered Spain Martel stopped them in S.France. Both sides had their victories and defeats. Great Leaders and Warriors in both sides.

[@ifrazali3052]

@@sonofnike2800 But in the end they lost more land then Muslims including whatever they conquered Including two makkahs of Christiandom Jeruslum and Constantinople

[@ifrazali3052]

@@rohacha9iin40 what do you mean by base?

[@atomlao]

why did 2018 Quinn sounds like its AI generated?

[@jackiesantos2121]

So early and fanaticism in the future

[@totalnewb123]

Quinn you’re like a drug dealer. You give out enough just for everyone to come back for more. Great video sir. 🤣😎👍💯🤔

[@mikeylestreets]

❤

[@ELPADREGATO]

Awesome book, Omnius was an asshole version of the internet.

[@talitafranco7230]

Don’t kill me but I’m kind of like the prequels, yes they aren’t as great as the originals but the ones about the Jihad are really interesting!! I have to agree they do make Norma Cenva a super Mary Sue, I kind of like her way more in the beginning! Was so interesting to have one of the mais characters describe as an ugly dwarf who is despised by her mother because of that, and even so became one of the greatest minds in the galaxy!!!! But after that when she gets all super powerful and beautiful was just no!! Too much!!! And don’t even get me started with that bullshit of Oracle of Time!!! Just no!!! Let us have our ugly dwarf as hero!!! Not all women in fiction have to be gorgeous!!! But I still like them!!! The books I mean!! I love everything Dune, só more books for me are always a plus even if they aren’t as good as the originals!!! Another great video!!! Please more Dune videos!!! Love it!!!

[@madvulcan8964]

The butlerian Jihad conquered all but one world in the far wester fringes, a temperate terrestrial ring world called America. When the Americans heard of the Jihad they agreed to most of the points they made against the usage of thinking machines but they protest on the abrupt removal of them from society without a clear plan on how society will function with out them. The Jihadist didn't care of the consequences of there action only that they achieve their goal by any means. Even if that required destroying the two o'neill cylinder colonies over the planet. The Americans not willing to back down to the flow of air launched a counter attack with their Berserker Drones agents the Jihadis. The Jihadist fought long and hard but no matter how many drones they destroyed the crone motherships replicated more. On top of that the Americans where building more drone motherships. The final biggest push the Jihadist made was a full out attack on the command base on the their moon were the Americans were coordinating the drones attack from. Though it was a catastrophic attack the Jihadist made the Americans hold the down with a collective effort of on site drones and a well armed humans in eco-suit power armor. Even after 108GB the Jihadist still attacked America for another fifty years till they peace agreement was made. Even though the Americans were relentlessly attack they made there own forts to remove thinking machines and create a new system that did not collapse civilization. When represents from the new feudal government came to America they were impurest of the system they were able to create without modern civilization collapsing. When asked if they could share their secret the Americans decline to share they success with the rest of the worlds.

[@billyteflon1322]

I'm not saying I'm gay. I am saying you have an amazing voice to break down videos.

[@Motivatedk9]

He made this video before he was trying to convince people Chani is a main character... lmao 🤣😆 She isn't and has never been. I mean she's cool and all but NEVER the focus of a book

[@KalelSonOfDurel]

Dial down the voice effect by about 10%, it's just slightly drowning out your nuance.

[@shaneoliver5574]

What if a Butlerian Jihad really took place thus planting an early human civilization (Adam and Eve) on planet Earth with no machines or technology?

[@theumbrellacorporation1523]

Well, little did god, or whoever started that Jihad know that 156,000 years later, mankind has broken the forbidden use of AI and is now back to creating artificial intelligence and allowing their machines to think for them.

[@gum8191]

Kaczynski was right.

[@sawilliams]

THOU SHALL NOT MAKE A MACHINE IN THE LIKENESS OF A MANS MIND

[@TheJohno95]

Ok, I'm going to brace myself for all the stones thrown by the purists. But if you're interested in the Jyhad, give the prequel books a try. A see a lot of you talking in the comments about what would happen if machines took over and if people would side with the machines or those that destroy them. Yes, the prequels are in a different style, but they're still very enjoyable. The trilogy that just finished that describes the universe after the fall of the machines is highly entertaining and deals with a lot of the questions people are asking. If you don't want to read anything that isn't Frank Herbert, that's fine. But if you would like to try a highly enjoyable sci-fi story about the rise and fall of a machine empire and the scramble for power by the humans left over, I HIGHLY recommend the Butlerian Jyhad trilogy and the Guild trilogy. Very good books.

[@Shan_Dalamani]

Oh, please. I have read the prequels (except for Mentats and Navigators) and they basically spit on Frank Herbert's work.

[@TheJohno95]

Well, perhaps they're not for you. But someone else out there might enjoy them. It could be argued the Frank's last couple of books in the series spit on the first four....But I still read and enjoyed them. Personally, I prefer the prequel books explanation to the Butlerian Jyhad rather than this Dune Encyclopedia version. This sounds like a small philosophical difference and one religious fanatic. Personally, I don't think on small group could change the thought processes of technology today, much less on an Imperium that spans galaxies and that depends on machines for navigation. On the other hand, being taken over by an army of robots and computers and overthrowing them, that I could see forcing a change in thinking and travel. And I firmly believe Kevin and Brian are telling the truth when they say his notes say he was swinging toward using the machines more. It's a shame he died so we'll never see how he continued the series, but I, for one, enjoy these little excursions back into the world of Dune Kevin and Brian provide. I'll take that versus the reboots of the first book into movies and television we see over and over. I feel Frank would be much happier with new books and creations based on his vision rather than people trying to reinterpret his work on screen and losing the meaning of his work OVER and OVER.

[@druidboy76]

You have GOT to stop pronouncing the names and words incorrectly. It’s killing my desire to listen.

[@diegoimbraguglio3738]

Legends of Dune is much better.

[@wartooth88]

His sons books were much better and comprehendable compared to franks incoherent existential crap.

[@Shan_Dalamani]

Only for people who are too lazy to put in the effort to actually think.