Dune & Children of Dune TV Series Explored - A Brilliant Yet Criminally Overlooked Dune TV Series

Dune & Children of Dune TV Series Explored - A Brilliant Yet Criminally Overlooked Dune TV Series
#dune

[@SoCal818]

Okay, this fact is actually misconstrued all the time. But the 10,000 year timeline is actually 10k years from the ending of the Butlerian Jihad (the war against machines). Dune actually starts about 20,000 years after our current time. More or less. 😅

[@ironolis]

Thank You

[@RockyGems]

Frankly I’m shocked that technology is going to wait so long to try to kill us.

[@MrJibbajabbawocky]

He mentions that in the video.

[@PatrickOMulligan]

@@MrJibbajabbawocky The video is riddled with errors.

[@dresdyn100]

I think where people and "explainers" get confused is that it's 10,000 AG (After Guild formation) which is 10,000 years after the first development of FTL (non-instantaneous) travel. There's also speculation that the Dune timeline doesn't share our own but is set in an alternate universe, but it's hard to prove given the lack of information on the Old Empire.

[@marysmith2060]

Not forgotten. Until the miniseries Dune was released in 2000. The 1984 movie was an incomplete version. Children of Dune was a thoughtful and worthy continuation.

[@RetroGamerBB]

The extended fan edit of the 1984 dune movie is pretty good. Even 3 hours isnt long enough but allows the material to breathe. Also see the TV cut

[@DavidLopez-kz8gw]

If only they can release the original edit of 84 dune that's all most 4 hours long.

[@dswynne]

Disagree. The Lynch version is as complete as it was meant to be. It simply didn't get a sequel. Same with the mini-series. Hopefully, all of Herbert's works will get their adaptation in one form or another, though a mini-series works best in this case, IMO.

[@Aven236]

@@dswynne Nothing about Lynchs movie is at it´s meant to be. Just look at Lynchs own reception to the movie. He never came back to blockbuster cinema and still describes it as a painfull nightmare.

[@Shan_Dalamani]

@@Aven236 Anyone who reads Ed Naha's The Making of Dune would know that there's so much more that Lynch wanted to do with that movie that was either cut for time or wasn't possible for a whole host of reasons including the frustrations of shooting in a country (Mexico) where they had constant issues with the corrupt government and customs who would often extort money to let them get what they needed into and out of the country in time.

[@dresdyn100]

David Lynch for the aesthetic, Villeneuve for the cinematic experience, SyFy's mini-series' for the lore. I'd read the books multiple times prior to the Syfy series' and can safely say you probably don't have to read the first 3 books if you'd watched them. Yes, you'll be missing out on some deep lore and the full experience by not reading them but the Syfy adaptations were very well done.

[@robertreine1107]

Wish they would release this on digital platforms for purchase.

[@Stonegoal]

The major problem is Dune 1984's production value was so amazing you didn't even want to watch this for the story. And I don't care what people say they did a good job on Dune(1984). The casting most likely could have been better but the acting, writing and graphics were great.

[@tiobi6633]

Yes, this version is the most faithful to the books, and imho this is the only format Dune can be done. The new movie (don't even want to talk about it, it has its pros and cons) is just a Dune themed reinvented popcorn firework compared to this. I highly recommend the series over the movie. AND highly recommend the books. even this covers the book only around 60%

[@davidbailey8353]

Does anyone know where the mini series can be streamed? I remember watching this when it came out, but I was kind of too young to really get it at the time

[@ShadowSonic2]

It's on youtube, free IIRC.

[@GoldenFinch3704]

Children of Dune can be streamed on Amazon. The 2k miniseries is sadly only found on KZbin.

[@DragonflyandTheWolf]

There was poor promotion for children of dune?? I was in high school when it came out. I saw commercials for it every time I turned on the tv. My english teacher had a poster of it hanging in her classroom two months before it was out. I was so hyped for it.

[@BigAL68xyz]

I liked the miniseries a lot. I was actually surprised that they even attempted to adapt Children of Dune. After the 2nd book Dune Messiah, each book got increasingly complex and more difficult to read, but rather than being too complicated, I thought the Children of Dune miniseries did a fine job of making the story easier to digest.

[@joethomas4234]

As a fan of the entire Dune book series, I think all the adaptations are great in their own ways. I like the Lynch version for its bizarre and goofy interpretations of the characters, though the story itself was incoherent to say the least. I enjoyed each series as a mostly faithful interpretation, though it is painfully low budget and the acting wasn't particularly good in my opinion. And I enjoy the new movies for their cinematography, excellent acting, and epic moments, even though it deviates from the book in a number of ways. I think attempting to precisely adapt any book to film is a fools errand. Not only is it not possible, it's boring and pointless. I love seeing different iterations of a great story.

[@jamesvan2201]

Wait....why is it impossible to adapt a movie or show 100% accurately to the book? It's not impossible. It just requires more money to get every single detail. Probably more money than it would be worth. But it doesn't mean it's impossible. All they have to do is write the script following the book precisley.

[@Cethinn]

@@jamesvan2201 No, it's impossible. When reading each reader is filling things in in their own way with their own ideas. Making movie or show requires solidifying the ideas into one version, which is not what's in the books. You have to create new things, adapt some things to make them fit, and choose specific interpretations of what could have multiple interpretations.

[@mikereger1186]

I own both series on blu-ray. They’re the most book-accurate versions I’ve seen so far. Seeing most of the original cast return for the second series helped considerably; the montage at the end of Messiah was almost heartbreaking because we’d had hours getting attached to the characters already. The recastings of Alice Krige and Steven Berkoff was a bit unfortunate, neither really had the intensity that Jessica and Stilgar had displayed in the original series, both seemed to be “phoning it in” on this production even though they’re both demonstrably very capable performers. The note that the original series feels like a stage play is fair comment - it reminded me of the “feel” of Tom Baker’s later Doctor Who era; so for the more wrinkly viewers among us that’s actually no bad thing, but for those with less attention span or less appreciation of how CGI has evolved it’d disappoint. Meh, those same people probably wouldn’t appreciate Babylon 5 either, so...nuts.

[@CMDR_Verm]

I couldn't agree more. These mini-series do not need to be apologised for, they still are fantastic. I bought them all in boxed set DVD's and watch them every now and then and they never disappoint. As a 61 year old my fear is that the generations raised on TV and now digital media of any sort never read a book to allow them to make a comparison between the written words and another's interpretation of them. I enjoyed Villeneuve's first instalment and look forward to the next. Sadly I will never see Jodorowsky's attempt but so it goes.

[@kenknowlton3085]

I own both, Dune, and Children of Dune. This is far superior storytelling than the egotistical crap that's currently playing in theaters.

[@chriscunningham8703]

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[@pwyll63627]

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[@kenknowlton3085]

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[@giliamjohanwinckler4924]

YES!!!!! Was a huge fan of the Sci-Fi channel's "Dune" series!!! Alec Newman was amazing as Paul Atreides and Barbora Kodetová was a babe of note as Chani. Ian McNiece was (as always) incredible as Vladamir Harkonnen and much respect goes out too to William Hurt, Julie Cox, Daniela Amavia, Karel Dobrý and Saskia Reeves as well. Let's not forget Zuzana Geislerová as the reverend mother either! And when Alice Krige joined in I was blown away, along with Steven Berkoff!

[@marieroberts5664]

No love for James MacAvoy?

[@saeyabor]

Ian McNiece was almost too good. The Baron was still him in my head every time I've read the book.

[@andrewnlarsen]

@@marieroberts5664 Amen...this was my first introduction to him.

[@di3486]

Barbora interpretation of Chani was absolute perfection.

[@giliamjohanwinckler4924]

@@di3486 when she says "Tell me about the waters of your home land, Mua'dib", I still get the chills - sultry, compelling, alluring and captivating; great actress! 👍👍👍

[@UteChewb]

I have both series on dvd. Great stuff. I have rewatched it a few times, but my favourite has to be the Children of Dune series, mwah, chef's kiss. Leto's statement at the end was great and so was Ghanima's. I saw Dune II this week, and it looks great, and I understand many of the changes necessary, but I still have this voice inside me that says "yeah, but the miniseries did that better."

[@Sextus70]

Same, I watched it yesterday lol. I have enjoyed Villeneuve's Dune series so far and visually it is certainly amazing, but I personally prefer the storytelling and more faithful adaptation provided by the miniseries. It is simply impossible to properly adapt a book series as long and complex as Dune to movie format. The perfect adaptation to me would be a new "Game of Thrones" like TV series with Villeneuve's visuals/direction and the screenplay of the 2000's miniseries.

[@chaymorr5371]

the two miniseries' are my favorite adaptations, but there are things from all of the adaptations I can appreciate.

[@christopherkerns639]

DUNE and CHILDREN OF DUNE were made on a budget! Each mini series had been done on 20 million for each! They ARE SPECTACULAR in their own right! The writing and acting are superb! The cast was excellent! The only way a truely faithful DUNE will ever happen is by a big budget mini series! With time contraints of a major movie too much dialog and the all important subtle nuances are lost! A FAITHFUL DUNE IS POSSIBLE! It will hopefully be done one day! Until then these are the best possible!!

[@НурсаулеСагидолда-п3ж]

Женский актёрский состав 1984+мужской актёрский состав 2021+сценаристы 2000-х+локации и декорации Вильнева = настоящая Дюна❤

[@smokinbearbooker4926]

I agree with you about everything except the acting lol

[@chriscunningham8703]

The acting was “daytime soap” level bad 💀

[@Cethinn]

@@smokinbearbooker4926 I think the acting was fitting for what the show was. Everything about it was a little campy. I think it would have been better if they had a huge budget to do everything well, but I think the level of acting fit the way the shows felt overall. I think it could have felt weird if you had really amazing acting but with all the other cheaper stuff that are in them.

[@smokinbearbooker4926]

​@Cethinn I love that miniseries, but I also make fun of things I love lol. You're right though, for the budget and what they had to work with, it fits

[@TheGhost00sm]

Actually, it's still my favorite adaptation of the novel. The only thing that I really dislike is the costume design. It's bad. It looks worse than even 84 Dune. I know there was a limited budget, which why I don't really harp on the SFX. Image this story with the look of the Villeneuve's Dune. That would be the perfect adaptation.

[@keirajohnson7745]

Oh my God yes! Some of the acting is questionable, but the costumes are truly horrendous. If the miniseries had the look and feel of the new movies, it would be perfect. It makes me sad we might never see another adaptation.

[@busykeys7444]

Idk I feel like Villeneuves adaptation may not have been a 1:1 retelling of the story but the changes he made specifically with Chani helped convey the original message of the novel. To be skeptical of messianic figures. It was such an incredibly well done film that I find it hard to criticize it for not being an exact adaptation. IMO

[@andiestone]

I watched Dune and Children of Dune on sci-fi, and I love it! It's my favorite. I own dvds of Children of Dune, wish I knew where my dvds of Dune went. Glad, KZbin has both miniseries. I watched the new Dune, and I didn't like it. I came back to this one. I'm such a huge fan! I hate that the media never talks about these when talking about Dune, the new movie.

[@Tman001100]

@ 20:26 "...even going as far as to kill his own mother to prevent her from taking control." I assume you meant his aunt Alia as Leto's mother was Chani who died giving birth to him and Ghanima. Anyway, I remember watching these as they first premiered in early 2000s on then Sci-Fi channel and I became kinda obsessed with them and finally reading Frank Herbert's books soon after. Was sad that they did not get more recognition but they have more of a cult following now years later that saw the many great aspects of both miniseries.

[@OscillatorCollective]

DUNE…. Is my THING‼️ I love DUNE, everything about it. And side point. Children of DUNE, might be the greatest thing ever!😭

[@texabara]

My favorite from the books is GEOD.

[@katpocalypsemeow4554]

I LOVED both of these mini-series when they came out and rewatched them every time they aired. While the effects and acting could've been better it was still an amazing telling of the story and best attempt so far.

[@suerichardson4381]

It would have been interesting to see what they would have done with the remaining 3 books God Emperor, Heretics and Chapterhouse

[@Peterski]

I don't think it's forgotten. We who were there to see it when it premiered do remember it as the most faithful adaptation (not changed even after Villeneuve's movies). Too bad about the shoestring budgets

[@michaelosborne1584]

Finally a man of culture. I miss the old school syfy stuff. They clearly.l9ved the frank herbert books. Even though it felt like a play that was on camera at timea

[@tinawexler6547]

Honestly, maybe this is my geriatric millennial self, but I liked that it was campy and still took the book seriously. The camp is very strong. The costume designers were definitely on some awesome drugs.

[@EtanaruDanshingu16]

I grew up watching these series, thank you for covering this! Much appreciation 💖

[@majinshenron666]

Never forgotten this! These were an epic version of the story immensely faithful to the source material than the ‘84 movie. With an epic cast.

[@НурсаулеСагидолда-п3ж]

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[@Shan_Dalamani]

Except for Susan Sarandon. She was terribly miscast.

[@kenknowlton3085]

​@@Shan_Dalamanibetter than Alice Krige

[@Shan_Dalamani]

@@kenknowlton3085 WTF are you talking about? Alice Krige played Jessica, not Wensicia.

[@kenknowlton3085]

@Shan_Dalamani I didn't say she did. Susan Sarandon was a better casting choice than Alice Krige. A cardboard cutout of Alice Krige would have done just as good a performance. Try to keep up.

[@wolframlunscher7211]

Yes, some of the miniseries costumes were goofy, but I think they nailed the female attire much of the time. In the novel, the Bene Gesserit are much sought after as wives and concubines. That told me they were HOT, and some of Herbert's descriptions bear that out. However, both movies have them looking like witches out of MacBeth regardless of age or position. The miniseries does well to enhance their beauty and poise.

[@joymiller9668]

The story is always more important than the special effects. Personally in the 2000s as a 10 year old I was more than satisfied with them. Your imagination can fill in the blanks if you let it. The messiah episode literally makes me cry every single time. I didn’t feel that in the new one. I think the acting was great, idk why people think it wasn’t.

[@tonygibson1969]

This was my introduction to the dune universe. My dad was so hyped for this miniseries when it dropped on scifi channel. I was 10yrs old and my dad got me the book series for christmas that year.

[@alexpratt71]

I dream of the day “God Emperor” is placed on the big screen 👍🙂🐻

[@sauce8075]

The captions called him the potty Shaw emperror 🤣😭

[@NaatClark]

Sci-Fi Dune really was the best adaptation. Lynch's Dune was def weird enough but the changes he made(chaaaaaaa!) were a bit much imo. Nu-Dune had the biggest budget and some amazing shots to be sure but how is it that Dune 1 & 2 combined had a longer run time than the 2000 mini-series while cutting sooooooo much from the story.

[@ddooodddoo]

I remember watching this entire series on Christmas day 2001 on the sci-fi channel

[@tripwire6306]

Look, watch the new movies. Then come back for the two mini-series. Questions you didnt even realise you had will be answered. Dune and Children of Dune covers the first trilogy, really covers it in-depth. Still my favourite telling.

[@Shan_Dalamani]

LOL. People will be confused about Liet-Kynes, since Villeneuve evidently thinks that Chani's father was a woman.

[@Stephen64138]

@@Shan_Dalamani Not only that, but we have gone so far into wokeness that we are supposed to believe that an african woman is the mother of an american girl. Sharon Duncan-Brewster playing the mother of Zendaya. In what genetical world please? ... Ah, this is so absurd. All in the name of inclusivity.

[@BaumGod]

@@Stephen64138you do know zendaya is mixed right? Is it that crazy for her to have gotten pregnant from a lighter skinned person?

[@kenknowlton3085]

@@BaumGod You really have to go deep to defend this BS race-swap decision...

[@PatrickOMulligan]

@@Stephen64138 ummm what? Zendaya looks mixed race so it is pretty believable. Wokeness and anti-wokeness rots the brain.

[@LordDragon314]

Visually you can't beat the new Dune. That said I still think the miniseries is the best adaptation yet.

[@christophersandidge8257]

I love this series. When I read the books, this is the cast in my head. Great video. Thanks.

[@colindonington6568]

I found these two series quite compelling and moving.

[@jasonjackson7389]

I defend the Mini series, because I have the director's cut edition and have watched the behind the scenes interviews. Every one involved in that series are fans of the novels and wanted to make as accurate of a telling that they could. As far as the CGI the story is so interesting that it's not enough to take me out of the scenes. I saw it as a you teen and liked it so it still holds up for me. We don't always choose are understand why we like something . This was the first time my " they all live happily ever after expectation" was shattered. The Children of Dune broke me ,but I understand why and am thankful for the hard lesson now.

[@mikegrant8031]

I always liked the mini series and the cast performances were spot on.

[@raygaetjens3291]

I dont know why so Many shit on this mini series. Its much closer to the books than ANYTHING out there. I like Dinni Villeneuve movies but he made changes that I don't agree with. It's all subjective though...

[@Imhotep-Still-Juicy]

Subjective perhaps, but the mini series told' Frank Herbert's Dune' but the new films are Denis Villeneuve's reimagined take, altering characters and the Fremen in ways I cannot accept as a fan of the books. The mini series is the best!

[@DavidJackRabbit]

Watching the mini series always feels like having a religious awakening.

[@ismata3274]

Ummm.... Leto killed his mother?????? Ummmmmmmm.....

[@Shan_Dalamani]

Yeah, makes me wonder if the narrator actually read the book or even watched the Lynch movie. I suspect not. Leto didn't even kill Alia. She killed herself (by stabbing in the miniseries, and by jumping out of a window in the book).

[@bluegrassreb]

Easily the best renditions. Stayed true to the books. no gen Z Chani. NO down playing Paul.

[@Imhotep-Still-Juicy]

Agreed. The changes to Chani are like 'warrior Galadriel' in the Rings of Power. Chani was so likeable and dignified in the mini series.

[@blenrythblenryth3949]

unpopular opinion it seems at the moment but YES I think these 2 adaptations are the superior ones. The new dunes may have far better visuals but thats about it. I loved the acting in the mini series a lot more. I loved the story and complexity.. Imagine if they had the visual affects and stuff of the new dune films with the actors and story of the mini series!

[@michaelosborne1584]

The baron was amazing man I loved how they had to actually earn the respect of the freman. Not them being basically pawned and manipulated by the witches lol

[@Sextus70]

To be fair, Paul and Jessica still have to somehow earn the respect of most of the skeptical Fremen (as in the book, only the tribes brainwashed by the Bene Gesserit blindly believed the prophecy) in the new movies with their skills and some feats. Due to the limited screen time, it feels more rushed sometimes than in the miniseries though.

[@willzsportscards]

I think it *was* well received. Pretty sure these two mini series set records for the scifi channel for ratings etc. Also, Battlestar Galactica came out a full year after Children of Dune.

[@donbrunodelamancha1927]

Thank you for covering this‼️ It’s not completely forgotten. I have them both on Blu-ray.‼️✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼😊

[@jaegerbomb269]

I like the miniseries better than the films. Don't get me wrong, I like the films. Yet the shows was more loyal to the books. While the movies do a better job with Duncan, show did a better job with Alia.

[@wh3elson]

As someone who was movie only, you barely knew Alia, just that it was the unborn child inside Jessica and she could somehow communicate lol

[@ismata3274]

Forgotten!? My only CDs of a nonmovie nondocumentary kind, aka a tv series, is this one. Only problem it had was low budget related things. Yes it had changes, but compared! to Lynch s movie........ it's a gem adaptation wise. But that low budget killed it sometimes.....

[@Imhotep-Still-Juicy]

Totally agree, I'd like to have a word with the costume department and ask them what the hell they were thinking, ha ha.

[@Kiljaedenas]

I remember seeing those as a young adult. They were pretty good, and I definitely am sad that the rapid movement bursts of the Weirding Way shown in them wasn't adapted to the new movies.

[@Imhotep-Still-Juicy]

Yes!!! Where the hell is the weirding way in these films? People are wondering why couldn't the Fremen defeat the Harkonnens if they were that strong all along. Now people have pointed out that Paul needed the family atomics to threaten spice production, but still, by Paul and Jessica teaching some chosen Fremen the weirding way, it gave them the edge over the Sardaukar which the Fremen were roughly on par with in blade combat. Villeneuve made it as though the Fedaykin were Chani's unit good to go and match skills witht he Sardaukar.

[@Sextus70]

​@@Imhotep-Still-Juicy Another thing I have a minor gripe with is how the atomics are introduced in the movie as just another big and flashy weapon to turn the tide of the war. In the books they are a pretty big deal, not only for their firepower, but to the fact that they are actually strictly forbidden by the Great Convention signed by all the Great Houses of the Imperium, so it was going to be a controversial and risky political move. In fact, Paul uses it to open a breach in the shield wall during the final battle because such an use somehow circumvents the Convention as it does not directly harms human beings. In Villeneuve's Dune this also happens this way but there is no further context about why besides providing a distraction and letting the sandstorm wreak havoc in the Imperium's forces defenses and communications.

[@tanishadee3883]

I’m hoping Denis will show the Weirding Way in the 3rd movie. I think he hinted at it in the beginning of Part 2 though

[@jameshunter2714]

The TV series did a pretty good job with the budget they had to work with. I have seen all the Dune movies and read the book (yep, I'm old as dirt). Anyway, the TV thoroughly entertained me.

[@MajorMalfunction]

I like the old stuff better than the new stuff. :)

[@Nr4747]

I saw both mini series shortly after they came out when I was just a teenager and immediately loved them both. James Macavoy in particular was amazing as Leto II.

[@criticalpet9886]

You are so right! I love James McAvoy in this serie! So underrated! And so well adapted to the book, just grand

[@TheKeyser94]

The miniseries can be find in KZbin, the censure version is English and the unrated version is Spanish, the unrated version is five hour long.

[@keeleon]

This is my definitive version of Dune, and I think all the characters were perfectly cast. It's hard to watch the new version because they're just too different. It would be like watching Timothee Chalamet play Luke Skywalker in a reboot of A New Hope.

[@teufeltuna1956]

I loved that series, some aspects are better then the new movies.

[@justmike75]

Thanks for this video… So setting production quality and acting performances aside (the SciFi Channel just can’t compete with studios)- I love the miniserieses. They have kinda tarnished the new Dune movies for me b/c I expect more- which I got in production and acting talent but I really noticed the deficiencies in the story differences more and what the new movies had to edit out or chose to change. I wish I could mash both together ;)

[@Imhotep-Still-Juicy]

Bingo! Same for me, the mini series is the most faithful and full telling of Frank Herbert's Dune there is. The changes made to Chani by Villeneuve are for me personally as jarring and saddening as 'warrior Galadriel' in the Rings of Power as is the splitting of the Fremen into religious South and less-religious North. I want Frank Herbert's Dune, not a reimagining where someone tries to tell the story 'better' by taking lines out of character's mouths and planting them in others to flesh out their character. There are plenty of ways to give Chani, Jessica and Irulan screen time without altering them. I found the devout, capable, but warm Chani of the mini-series to be more dignified and likeable and the same for Stilgar. Villeneuve made him a jest in Dune Part 2 and the character lost his dignity compared to the mini series where he could be both teacher and fanatic without having to utter "As Written" every time Paul farted. Villeneuve really hammered the point of 'false prophet', beware popular leaders, Bene Gesserit falsehoods etc over and over in the first film and second, which sort of ruins the whole point of Dune Messiah in which Frank wanted the peoploe who cheered for Paul earlier to question themselves on whether they should in Dune Messiah. p.s. I'm always cheering for Paul. Can't believe people read him as a villain, it's way more complicated than that. I'll stop rambling now, ha ha.

[@carolbriscoe9337]

I watched this series with great appreciation. In fact I also bought the DVDs. Just gave them away last month. The series explained so much which I'd found confusing in the books. Glad they're fondly remembered

[@VogtTD]

I was pretty disappointed with the new films honestly. Even with two long films they somehow had to cut many important scenes and vital subplots. Important themes are missing. It should have been a series. Every time someone suggests it should have been a series, the apologists storm in to say it couldn't be done on a TV budget. Has everyone just forgotten Game of Thrones and the advancements in last fifteen years of television? Dune doesn't even need to be special effects heavy. There are hardly any major set pieces in the books. It's a bullshit argument. It could have been a series that ran through the entire saga. In concerned that the director said he will only do 3 movies, so I hope he doesn't change stuff and close off the possibility for another director to continue after him. I need God Emperor to happen.

[@waitandhope]

The basic scoop here is the blurays exist outside the USA, there are region free ones available from Germany I believe. The problem is the directors cut was only released on DVD, so you'd be better off finding it and then you can watch any extras available. Anyways it's even more complicated because Australia released a remastered bluray of Dunes series, to watch this you'd need to use a region free player. As for Children of Dune just buy whatever you can find because they're all the same versions. What we need is an all inclusive region free directors cut but that'll never happen since scifi is now syfy

[@Itscheho]

i prefer the mini series to the new movie tbh

[@Imhotep-Still-Juicy]

Because the mini series is Frank Herbert's Dune and the new movies are Villeneuve's reimagined take. One is faithful the other altered.

[@h00k90]

2000 Dune was my first introduction to Herbert's works and I never looked back

[@hdgehog6]

Esthetically, this version was shit, but it was light years ahead of the total shit Lynch put out in '84.... As for plot and adaptation, well, I was impressed to no end. Compared to DV's DUNE this version is far better as it relates to story and adaptation. uuuuugh!

[@Calypso694]

You can all say you hate this or bad but you know you like them. You know they are the most book accurate and that some of the costumes are better than the new movies. This series captures the colorful world of dune that’s described

[@joymiller9668]

This is still my favorite version by far, ya people can complain about the special effects but its story is so well told that it holds up against the effects. I don’t think the new can, the effects are what hold the story together. That is why I love the miniseries. I wish more people would watch it 1st instead of the movies. They would definitely have a better understanding of the books anyway. Ya I say books because of the Children of Dune miniseries that follows which covers Dune Messiah and Children of Dune. There is politics but also the characters are just more fleshed out and more relatable.

[@Angea-mina]

I loved the mini series just not the costumes. Reminded me of manga and anime but not in a good way. Costume choices for some of the characters and groups were weird and made them look more goofy than fierce or strong. Medieval court outfits and jesters come to mind. Headpieces were distracting.

[@Imhotep-Still-Juicy]

I think the costumes let it down more than anything else. Could you imagine everything else the same but with the costumes from the new films and maybe a slightly larger sand-pit for the actors to perform in.... there would be no need for any remakes.

[@lknanml]

And BETTER than Dune 1 and 2 that just came out. Dune 1/2 have better CGI, music and locations but the 2 series had better acting and a better script. The two new movies had lots of big names but both movies were hollow. At times it seemed like the cast was at a table reading.

[@rkrw576]

The first series is really great, we've watched it many times. THe followon is much weaker, in large part because the actress who is Alia is simply awful.

[@wolfbane452]

1st... Dune Patrol on deck.

[@uapuat]

The Baron in the mini-series is the most book-accurate of all the adaptations.

[@dsmith4658]

they were ok but the 80 film had great music i know the film story was rushed

[@XanderVJ]

I'm sorry, was this episode written using AI? Because I swear to God, the Veredict parts sure as hell feels like it with the amount of wrong information about the series' reception.

[@braisfigueira5032]

forgotten? tell that to the friends to whom I bitched nonstop about how the cheap syfy miniseries was superior to the new ones(for real, first thing I did after part 1 was ordering the miniseries bluray)

[@cptcosmo]

The acting is a little wonky (Spacing Guild is painful), but follows the novels the best out of any other, including the new movie.

[@nitka711]

Best adaptation so far. I really don‘t know why people like the 1984 movie. This one is the best. I reserve judgement on the new one until they do Children of Dune. I hope they film the whole saga this time. Should have made it a series though. And don‘t forget the soundtrack! Inama Nushif anyone?

[@NalkCZ]

Besides couple of oversimplification and some twisting of plot lines in The Golden Path section of video, great work and good overview of the series and their context.

[@Hrisut]

The series is great, people make fun of the attires but I see it as we make fun of what rich people wore in the 1700s

[@kenknowlton3085]

The complex plots, plots within plots, are the biggest draw as a story!

[@ajeykul]

I have immense respect for the Hindu social systems where religion, politics & business were seperated from each other so that commoners can live in peace. The books and series give the same message but only an impartial mind can acknowledge it.

[@jamesvan2201]

I loved this show. I recorded the entire series on vhs long ago. I meant to convert them to dvd but the vhs tapes either got recorded over or lost.

[@davidboivin7996]

I liked the Dune miniseries. I loved the Children of Dune miniseries.

[@CaptainHindsight-xt9yd]

I like the 1984 movie and the 2000 mini series. But children of dune is my favorite of all the dune movies and tv series. I don’t think any of the future Denis Villeneuve are going to change that.

[@a_waff1es_0pinion76]

New movie definitely did for me

[@julio_scissors]

I've watched the Children of Dune miniseries a dozen times. I'm so thankful to have a live action adaption of those books that were faithful to the source material. And - sorry for saying this in 2024 - the women were all very beautiful. :) I did miss Saskia Reeves in the Children miniseries, though.

[@ukaszzawadka2678]

Saskia Reeves had done a great job in "Frank Herbert's Dune" (2000) miniseries. She has portrayed her charactr very well showing Lady Jessica's deep and complicated relations with her son (as a Bene Gesserit with a Harkonnen blood), and mourning the death of her beloved duke. I can still recall her words: " - And then, my heart turned into stone". She was truly captivating.

[@Torbjorn311]

LOL Forgotten, Its the best adaptation on film.

[@Shan_Dalamani]

I wonder if there will ever be a video in which the narrator actually pronounces the characters' names correctly and doesn't get the facts completely mixed up and wrong. Leto became a worm by covering his body in sandtrout, not by taking too much spice. Alia's name is pronounced AH-li-a. Farad'n isn't offered any power by Leto. His role at the end of the book is to mate with Ghanima to carry on the Atreides bloodline. It's Farad'n's mother who wants him to overthrow the Atreides and take back the throne for the Corrinos.

[@thx1138thecrane]

A triumph. Still the truest adaptation of Dune, Dune Messiah, and Children of Dune.

[@BenFrayle]

I still prefer SyFy Dune/COD

[@scilamaccagno2206]

Yes, I agree! I very much enjoyed this series. Thank you for the reminder of how great it was.

[@ginkgobilobatree]

I heard recently that both of these miniseries were the top ones shown on Sci-Fi, not failures as this video says, I personally don't know as I loved them all - Battlestar Galactica as well. It was killed by the merger with CBS and a pivot to cheap reality shows and away from actual Science Fiction content. No wonder they changed the name of the channel to Scy-Fy at the same time!

[@timothyring6836]

Loved the miniseries,though Leto2 never offered Faradn the throne.

[@NVKumanov]

Not forgotten my dude. These tv series are amazing

[@homerthompson6481]

I hate this series to be honest. The direction, the acting, the visuals. It really loses a lot of the imagination of the book.

[@claytonbarnett7084]

My wife and I thought they were marvelous. Dune and its two follow-ons are political-religious stories, not blaster-swashbucklers. Never meant for the big screen. They have a slower pace because they are slower paced. The 1984 movie has a few good visuals but the adaptation was trash. The recent movies are ruined with PC/DEI bullshit. Given their budget, SF Channel, and the producer and director, should be hailed as heroes for this adaptation. Excellent review.

[@marcinzysko1653]

If you think that making a dune adaptation is hard, then children of dune would be the dark souls of movie adaptations.

[@JohnEmerick-t9r]

I think the scifi mini-series is more wholistically believable and the character development far outweighs the new Dune movies. Chalamet's character comes off as pompous and filled with self righteousness from the get-go. The new Dune movies also try too hard to be artsy and dark. In the scifi series, the character of Paul develops and doubts himself, like any good hero-myth saga shows.

[@invictusgardener3090]

Awww, a baby McAvoy ❤

[@thx1138thecrane]

Imagine if he came back to play Leto 2nd in God Emperor of Dune. He'd still be perfect.

[@Randomaccount9470]

​​@@thx1138thecraneway way waaayyy to old On that note He might be the most underrated actor of our time "Wanted "is a dang good movie to hell with the critics

[@rubyrubio3970]

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[@anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470]

Miniseries not TV series

[@AnthonyS-w7g]

I still listen to the sound track or Childern of Dune.

[@matiasdevaglia4541]

The miniseries are the most complete adaptations, in terms of translating elements from book to screen. But if we speak of othe quality of the product themselves, Villeneuve's films are much superior in every level.

[@salvatore771]

I prefer the mini series over the new movies, more lore accurate and book accurate.

[@tomrogge4541]

I agree. I saw the two new Dune movies. I didn't like the changes in these new versions. The mini series are a much better and accurate telling of the books.

[@jonathanmurphy3141]

I am a fan of both. Watched on SyFy then, Have on DVD. I read all 6 original novels in my youth, in the 80's. The Lynch film ( and his films, creative view -admiration!) yes, was not allowed to be what it could be. Even the "alternative" version, isn't as complete as a version that can be found on the internet. I was happy with these TV adaptations. I hadn't read Messiah/Children in years, yet number of Herbert's story elements, scenes that still were in my mind -came to life in these adaptations. I hoped for a "God Emperor" series! The last two Herbert novels,...well, as a 16 year old, they lost me in philosophy, and debate. I have never returned to read them. I am now 54 years. The D.V. Dune 1 film, amazing -want the second! If D.V. makes "messiah",...I'll want "Children" and "Emperor". Yes, these adaptations are't perfect (not on location) yet actors, scope, design, intention -glad they were made, like Lynch's film, too.