Dune - Extended Irulan Introduction

[@DavenH]

No Irulan, YOU are the most precious substance in the universe.

[@RiderofRiddermark]

Am I allowed to like this twice?

[@charlesneely]

DavenH I agree

[@piotrsmolanski8777]

awwwww

[@zannaifacedancer5915]

Really, just because she is beautiful. If Irulan is the most precious substance in the universe, I cannot imagine how the rest of such a universe will be.

[@zannaifacedancer5915]

LOL indeed, obviously, but I'm worried that so many Dune fans get the same.

[@Duragizer8775]

The constant fading in-and-out effect makes it look like Irulan keeps trying to leave only to remember that she has more to say and keeps coming back.

[@zecraw]

Well, she did almost forget to tell us where the spice exists. I mean, where? Cleveland?

[@gordonmcinnes8328]

This was due to damage on the film, unintentional.

[@ljg6979]

@@zecraw Akron, I thought.

[@fkerpants]

@@gordonmcinnes8328 Do you have any details about that?

[@gordonmcinnes8328]

@@fkerpants Will look for one. Think it was an old cinefex or some such magazine. Pre-internet but will try.

[@THE-HammerMan]

Virginia Madsen never looked so gorgeous as her role in Dune. A fabulous beauty, she really takes your breath away in the few scenes she has.

[@VictorVonDoom.]

Always preferred Sean Young personally

[@THE-HammerMan]

@@VictorVonDoom. 10-4 on that! Sean was an eleven on a ten scale!

[@Tails7212]

Sean Young really was something else

[@brucetown]

if she read the whole book i would gladly listen

[@RexT294]

It's better with Czech dubbing.

[@DimitriYar]

The best opening monologe of all time ! Virginia Madson nailed it perfectly.

[@Warpreacher]

Pretty sure the best opening monologue of all time is the start of the fellowship of the ring

[@baronfeydrauthaharkonnen1627]

Someone ask Virginia Madsen to record audiobooks for the entire saga of Dune.

[@zannaifacedancer5915]

Great idea. Her voice is pretty nice and at least I need to hear the Dune audiobooks with actresses playing the female roles. Really love voice acting.

[@leviathanarg9469]

I'm in for the audio book read by Virginia. She delivered the lines so perfectly.

[@MrTrevor181]

Always loved listening to the introduction. What an irony - they originally considered this as a flop, but it's a sci fi cult classic now.

[@VersusARCH]

trevor bell A classic flop

[@robertheilmeier2671]

+@@VersusARCH You know nothing

[@danielpiesto532]

If its a flop why do you come back to this scene?

[@kubli365]

@@danielpiesto532 do any of you people on this thread understand what a flop means for christ's sake

[@danielpiesto532]

@@kubli365 Financial flop. OK now I get it. I'm english impaired.

[@germanicelt]

The most precious substance in the Universe in 1984 was her!

[@AtticTapes14]

The entire film was hogwash. Star Wars way better

[@danielg335]

Josh S-TV Star Wars is for kids. Dune is adult stuff. Star Wars better. What a joke. It’s not because a lot of people go see a movie that it makes it great. Avatar comes to mind.

[@danielg335]

Anton Zuykov TV attempt failed. Failed what? Your expectations. Who really cares about that. The movie and the SyFy take are interpretation of a complex universe that could never achieved the scope of the books. That said, Dune (the movie) and SyFy take are light years beyond the overrated Star Wars franchise.

[@bme7491]

In the 80's, that would have been cocaine.

[@VictorVonDoom.]

Josh S-TV that literally makes no sense since Star Wars is a Dune rip-off

[@rjg7112]

Looking back on it I am impressed with how mature her voice sounds for her age. She must have been only 22 years old when this filmed (DOB: 09/11/61).

[@stevenpilling5318]

I never knew this extended version existed. God, she's so damned beautiful!

[@_H_Y_S_]

Princess Irullan looks very impressive. If you don't know Irulan Corrino, this is an allusion going back to Anna Comnena - the daughter of the Byzantine emperor Alexei, the first woman historian, the creator of Alexiada - the main historical source of information about the first Crusades. By the way, guys, you can go to my channel, I make music in the Dune universe.

[@missyglittervlogs3543]

She said she was on 19 here! So beautiful as always!

[@christianealshut1123]

Then she would have been the right age for Irulan; if I am not mistaken, this would have been the age of the character at the beginning of the book; at any rate she was said to be slightly older than Paul.

[@OnlyTheTyrant]

I don't know which I want more, the Spice or Princess Irulan. They're both so hypnotic.

[@redrust3]

That’s serene voice as captivated me since the movie was made in 1984. I just turned 64 last month. Every time I hear her, I fall in love with Virginia Madsen all over again

[@meryatathagres1998]

Virginia, I lost my heart to you over 30 years ago. I still feel tremors watching this.

[@DocK36]

Actually the spice gas has nothing to do with "folding space", the Holtzman drive on the heighliners does that, the spice give the mutated navigator a kind of prescience, allowing them to plot a safe course for the heighliner through the universe.

[@bromixsr]

True, but put that explanation in a movie intro and you lose at least 20% of your audience.

[@kreliann]

I@@bromixsr I hope they use the original explanation in the new movie. Interstellar should have paved the road by now

[@jbagger331]

Well, that's a guild secret. The spice also mutate the freemen in more subtle way, they are all slightly superhuman, instinctual prescience makes it appear that they have better reflexes, better aim etc...

[@hrissan]

So true, the concept of seeing the future of the ship and steering it a bit when the future ends with an explosion from hitting an intergalactic stone 😸does not seem too hard to explain?

[@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462]

Sapho juice despite being a highly addictive mental enhancing substance is notably not anyway related to spice.

[@TheRealScottishFool]

She's honestly so beautiful in this movie.

[@SoulStylistJukeBox]

Madsen must have been like "I have no fucking idea what any of this means!" when preparing for the role.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

In order to understand dune you literally have to become a fuckin kwesiats'hadarach.(I probably just butchered that,eh what the hell)

[@offbeat65]

A lot less painful the admission that it's just a ridiculously overwritten adolescent gay fantasy.

[@rocketraccoon1976]

+ SoulStylistJukeBox Maybe not. Maybe they gave her some 'spice' beforehand and this all made perfect sense to her drug-addled mind.

[@applemask]

Laudably close.

[@hulkmeister23]

Eerily like what Mark Hamill thought when preparing for The Last Jedi.

[@marcusporciuscato6404]

Love the slight frown as she comes to Kwisatz Haderach.

[@christianealshut1123]

As if she doubts that this - or the BGs notion that they could create such a being and control him - was a good idea at all...

[@rothsshvili5125]

My life for Princess Irulan

[@StalionKick]

Her voice is amazing! Would love her to read me a bed time story.

[@shanecovey1901]

Garsh she's purdy. Perfect casting of princess Irulan.

[@blor3664]

I'm surprised she wasn't a bigger star, what a beauty.

[@FireEmblemTheRedTower]

Ah yes, the best Irulan design.

[@konstantindrevojorov3550]

She is so ❤

[@FireEmblemTheRedTower]

@@konstantindrevojorov3550 Tru

[@nicoleisgoddess]

I wasn’t even born in 1984 yet I am in love with her.

[@quentincollins1825]

Virginia Madsen should have gotten an Oscar for "Sideways"...the wine monologue was her finest performance! 💜

[@offbeat65]

The spice extends Irulan intro.

[@maximevanderhaeghe4951]

2 comments here: 1. I like this intro a LOT. Very interesting information for someone like me who has not read the book! 2. Toto did an amazing job with the music. The intro without music is so much different. One of the best soundtracks ever. Coming from a pop band makes it even more amazing. What a great film. Underrated. Misunderstood. Wonder what the new remake will look like!

[@shelbyvillemusica]

Yessssss to alllll

[@ForceMaximus84]

Most of the deleted bits went to later parts of the film, so this extended intro would have been overkill. Still, seeing Virginia Madsen for two straight minutes is always nice.

[@monsieurcommissaire1628]

Dear God, I would like to publicly thank you for creating Virginia Madsen. She is the very height of Beauty. Time itself seems to stand still when gazing upon her. I'm find that there are no words truly adequate to describe how beautiful she is. So I will just say, once again, thank you.

[@Concreteowl]

I love how the beginning of Dune mirrors the ending of Elephant Man.

[@cenewman007]

Virginia Madsen at the height of her powers.

[@dockaos924]

Still one of my favourite movies watch it a couple of times a year and it still amazes me 👍👍👍👍👍

[@tracys169]

I'm here after Dune part 2 with Florence Pugh, I have to say that Virginia Madsen made a better Irulan. She has the regality, beauty and haughtiness...all what Irulan should've been like. While Pugh is a good actor in her own right, she doesn't fit in what Irulan seems to be.

[@varric]

Pugh is still better than Zendaya.

[@corbanx0809]

she was one of my first tv crushes when i was a child

[@wpatrickw2012]

This was my favorite part of the movie.

[@MeBeTheDB]

Then ... as now, 30 years later, you can't not watch Virginia Madsen in any scene and not see the wheels spinning in her head. She knows the power of stillness and not having to 'work the room' in a scene. If only Mr. Lynch had been able to make and edit the film his way. Welcome to Hollywood. D.A.

[@SoulStylistJukeBox]

A heck of of a way to start a movie. The suits must have shit themselves when Lynch presented them with this cut. "Say WHAT?"

[@germanicelt]

+SoulStylistJukeBox I'm sure they all would've flopped it out and started tugging.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

+germanicelt THIS IS GOLDEN!!

[@germanicelt]

James Adams Haha, forgot about this comment, but what a coincidence! This movie was on tv again just last night and I watched it.

[@applemask]

I think this was their idea, giving the audience something approaching context. Except of course it just confuses you even more.

[@matthewbradley3395]

Not the suits. Lynch threw a hissy fit when they added the explanation of the Landsraad, the Guild et al and the history of man over the last ~10,000 years at the beginning of the film. He was so pissed that he demanded his name be removed from the film when it was re-released. This is why you will sometimes see "Dune" as directed by Alan Smithie...not David Lynch. Alan Smithie is a fictional name used for instances like these.

[@joegideon8461]

Excellent example of the "tell don't show" rule of cinema

[@gregbors8364]

To be fair, the studio expected David Lynch to tell the entire story of the original Dune novel in two and a half hours. Seemingly impossible to do without the use of expository scenes.

[@TrueCourse]

The Bene Gesserit sisterhood cleverly intermixed one bloodline with another to form the Kwisatz Haderach - Burt Bacharach!

[@smit4459]

This scene has a lot of important information related to the book, that was taken out of the theatrical cut.

[@windmolen00]

She is wonderful, but the audiobook version of her is too amazing.

[@chunkymilk]

she did the audiobook for Dune?

[@Observer-cp4if]

Personally, I think Virginia Madsen is the most precious substance in the universe.

[@corkydukeII5898]

I've been fan of hers since the 80's! What a gorgeous face!

[@ColonelMarcellus]

Virginia Madsen is beautiful

[@donaldshaunlothirath2571]

damn right she is

[@ColonelMarcellus]

Pretty girl ... ugly dress. She should hire me to design parts of her wardrobe.

[@cbolaurent]

Je ne me souviens pas combien de fois j'ai vu ce film, et l'intro me donne toujours la chair de poule. Quelque chose rend ce film intemporel. Comme un tableau, comme une oeuvre d'art, on peut le regarder encore et encore, en oubliant les imperfections techniques. Car ce film nous plonge dans un futur très plausible et très cohérent. C'est comme si on levait un instant le rideau du temps pour contempler cette évolution possible de l'humanité et s'attacher au fabuleux destin de ses personnages.

[@shelbyvillemusica]

Si amigo, una poesía tu comentario

[@Megatron-sl5us]

I'd rather be with Princess Irulan over Chani. That's just me, but I'm pretty sure most would agree.

[@sevalkaracan3110]

Why?

[@Megatron-sl5us]

@@sevalkaracan3110 The princess is hot. Chani is just average.

[@MisterTutor2010]

Princess of Exposition :)

[@dondragmer2412]

Virginia Madsen was ridiculously under-used in this film. This exquisite prologue soliloquy proves that, as in the book, she should have had a much larger role.

[@planetrift]

I had such a crush on her back then :) She have aged really well too.

[@Pwnstared]

And three years later she still looks great!

[@aguirronunbound]

Came here only for those cherry lips of a really beautiful Virginia Madsen

[@dirdib69]

It's cool that this version points out that Irulan was also trained by the BG - presumably her mother was also of the sisterhood, openly or not.

[@christianealshut1123]

In the books she was referred to as a BG "of hidden rank", which suggests that she must have been very high ranking and they did not want to disclose how high.

[@matthewdietzen6708]

I think the entire movie could have been just Irulan explaining everything.... lololol

[@criticalbil1]

Interesting. The left side (our right) of her face is marginally more expressive. You can tell this by covering each side and comparing how much her eyes are 'smiling.' Normally people's right sides are more expressive.

[@dw053408]

i cant believe how beautiful madsen is here

[@heathbrown4350]

Interesting fact - as all of us drool over the beauty of Virginia in this scene, she was very sick with the flu or something when she shot this.

[@dondragmer2412]

Would not have stopped me from fantasizing about being infected by those gorgeous lips.

[@gordyn5292]

The very moment a 12 year me fell in love with Virginia Madsen...been that way ever since.

[@cbolaurent]

the beginning also is missing : "a beginning is a very delicate time, know that this is the year 14.191, the known universe is ruled by the padisha emperor shaddam the forth my father"

[@SuperTonyony]

*10, 191

[@Paul_Wetor]

The longer version makes the "I forgot" statement more understandable.

[@Cchouette]

The BEAUTIFUL Virginia Madsen 🤩

[@randomcenturion7264]

I felt real bad for Irulan. If Paul wasn't so cold towards her, maybe things could've been different.

[@wiinterflowers95]

I agree. Paul dug his own grave in the books.

[@deandalapanda]

Tom Brady has the Spiiiiice Meeellaaaaange

[@ytubeblowsbigballs9458]

Wow, this explains a lot. I can't believe the editors left this out of the original movie. D'oh!

[@maxbrazil3712]

The book & this movie was way over the heads of half the earth's population. That's why both are so good.

[@abdulmismail]

This is the first time I've seen this clip and this extended version clarifies so much. Don't know why it was cut from the original theatrical release.

[@jeppesteen925]

As thinking machines has been outlawed.. Thoughty stuff

[@phlogistanjones2722]

"A beginning is a very delicate time....." And thus was sealed the fate of many a man.... The 1980's were an incredible time to be young and alive.

[@Activated_Complex]

“We’ve got the rights to the book that Star Wars was, to put it charitably, inspired by. One of the all-time great directors. Some of the all-time great producers. The Captain of Das Boot, and the future Captain of the Enterprise. What’s left?” “Well, we could start the movie with a close-up of a Princess so smoking hot that those adolescent fanboys will forget about Leia in that metal bikini for two hours. Or the next ten years.”

[@Timelord2001]

I thought the fade-in-and-out effect was a subtle and important means to hold our attention; especially younger members of the audience, which I was one of at the time in 1984. It acted as a perceptual and psychological form of punctuation, separating distinct points of thought, like paragraph indentation. Some complain about this, but I could tell, then and now, its purpose and how some of the audience might've gotten a bit lost without these breaks. It is also why some of its contents were wisely moved to scenes further on in the story, helpfully shortening the introduction.

[@aarona.aaronson9621]

If we lived in a kafkaesque dystopia and we'd all had to watch her giving propaganda talks for three hours a day, I'd be a very loyal slave to our unknown, unknowable yet omnipotent and benevolent leaders.

[@BatDadx]

This is what I pictured Irulan to look like, but her vernacular doesn't strike me as Gesserit

[@DeathMadeTangible]

+Nik Manee Dune was fail tho

[@qvalia]

+Nik Manee Irulan wasn't the most exemplary Bene Gesserit either...

[@HornyDude83]

+Qualia yup, she almost forgot - poor memory for someone who should be trained to peak mental capacity ;)

[@carolevonaarberg472]

NO. the 'I forgot' is just a rhetorical play to make you perk up and pay attention. and Blkngld, I think she would have a British accent.

[@stephenfoulard3484]

No doubt that, when among the sisters, she reverts to it -- only two others spoke, and they were both from the UK -- but Irulan's natural accent would be that of her father's court: were any of them English? Not that I recall.

[@yeoldewomynofportlandorego6905]

Virginia is the QWESATZ HADDERAT. SHE WAS PERFECT. SMILES AND HUGGGGS FROM YE OLDE WOMYN OF MILL ENDS PARK

[@jimtrueblue99]

I had forgotten what a relentless bore that movie was. Now that I've watched the extended introduction, I remember.

[@zenbear4149]

Learning this was supposed to be Helena Bonham Carter is a real bummer. She would have been amazing. She couldn't do it due to a three day scheduling overlap with Room with a View.

[@azuremountain]

now i remember the reason why i watched 84's dune

[@randaljbatty]

I prefer this beginning to the director's cut, which omitted it completely.

[@1991jerzy]

Irulan what a babe!

[@timtams5283]

The know about the spice... The spice melange...

[@peterp2153]

This extended monologue actually makes things more confusing, not less. Mentats? Kwisatz Heddarachs? Sappho Juice? Bene gesserit Superman breeding programs?

[@DuneInfo]

This is how the deleted scene appears on the DVD/Blu-ray I'm afraid. There are some fanedits that combine the deleted Irulan intro into the rest of the scene.

[@Relugus]

I am probably wrong, bug I get the impression her expositions were intended to be dotted throughout the movie.

[@tamurahiroto9004]

I need 4K Virginia Madsen in a big screen.

[@slowneutron6163]

Irulan.....I pity thee....such a pretty, pretty tool.

[@rcwardawg]

some parts of this original Dune are campy but Irulan is fantastic, comparing it to the current incarnation they could have taken more of an inspiration on the storytelling from this movie and stayed truer to the books and it would have made a better movie.

[@DonovanAenslaed]

Virginia Madsen, what a beauty! This film casted some of the most beautiful women in cinema of that time!

[@TheOtherKine]

I think this was a great intro and device to start the film

[@KishorTwist]

Holy sheet ! That was Virginia Madsen????

[@davemate003]

stunning virginia madsen as princess irulan

[@fedesur7261]

YES ...MEIN PRINZESSIN ...MEIN REICHPRINZESSIN ADDIOOO

[@gregbors8364]

Virginia Madsen is the original Spice Girl

[@JamesPawson]

I never see her the same in this movie after I saw that interview where she said she had some bad sushi in Mexico City when they were filming, and she was constantly on the brink of having... an accident on set, she was so sick. Poor girl.

[@MinekEzQM]

Which unfortunately usually a cover story for heavy drinking or drugs. On a David Lynch set it's most likely the latter.

[@Silverfoxyfifty]

Love this and thanks for posting.

[@mikevanroy9356]

The spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness. The spice...Hey, quit fucking with the lights!

[@Corellian]

if there's ever a Dune RTS, this should be the onscreen advisor.

[@bethanybouley6679]

Virginia Madsen and Gillian Anderson look so alike!😳😳😳😍

[@chalresleavenworth2490]

The perfect face.

[@Bruno-hd9qo]

SO... irulan is Benne Gesserit, saphu is derived from the spice, and from spice, indirectly, mentats take their ability. I've watched dune twice, first the theatrical and then the 170 mins version and only now o got to know this. Each time I watch, I get the feeling Mr lynch was just overwhelmed with the amount of details of Herbert's universe, and was unable to determine what to pick and what to leave in the transposition.

[@raksh9]

Bringing the complexity of Frank Herbert's Dune to a single movie would be incredibly difficult. Read the book and you'll understand how much was left out, not necessarily in plot, but in multilayered themes of philosophy, religion, politics, language and even anthropology.

[@jimparsons6803]

When I first read the book Dune, in the late 60s, LSD and so on was just getting its second wind, so to speak. Hence the seed idea for the book. Dune while being entertaining was a sign of those times.

[@MarkSmith-ud4sd]

Really? 🤔

[@DuneInfo]

@MaskedMan66 Weirdly you can still hear Irulan's prologue in the Extended Edition during the scene when Paul is studying the filmbooks.

[@baronfeydrauthaharkonnen1627]

I'm reading Heretics of Dune (again!)

[@zannaifacedancer5915]

My very fav, definitely, for ever and ever. I have read it several times and it helped me discover once and for all who was my favorite character in the Duneverse, Sheeana. Have you read it again in the last three years? Lol.

[@PAARYNAKAKKU-bt9qi]

they should have put on her as new dune movie

[@LordTalax]

Let me disappear for a while. Now I'm back

[@SuperTonyony]

David Lynch's "clever" direction.

[@ZotoTVChile]

Time to "awake" the "sleeper" :P

[@RodgerRamjet]

love any extra "anything" from Dune.. saw an alternate Ending.. which was WAY WAY more fitting than the original.. and about 5 min longer too.. loved this film from day one. Watch the Extended DVD now n then.. seen it... 20+ times ?? great cast, great movie.. still the benchmark for many that came after, despite the lack of CGI super computers..

[@tomashize]

GORGEOUS elegant Lady