Dune Lore: The Famine Times, Origin of The Scattering

The empire had seen more than 3000 years of stability prior to the famine, stability mankind had never before known. When the God emperor died there was a political collapse of macroscopic proportion. The effect went well beyond the political realm into the most essential economic aspects of human life. Leto’s empire had been a collection of entangled economies bound together by a central political power. Leto had been that power. Many of these interlocking economies contain entire planetary systems and even whole sectors containing several systems and others were limited to single worlds. Each of these economies depended on faster than light space travel in order to maintain themselves. But space travel required spice. During the rule of the God-Emperor Leto II, the planet Arrakis had been terraformed. It was no longer referred to as Dune. The changing of the world's environment had lead to the death of the sandworms, which meant that spice production ceased as well.
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Heretics and Chapterhouse are the two Dune books I have read the fewest times (two or three times each) so they are least present in my memory. Nice to be reminded of some important points from that book.

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The quality of this video was mind-blowing! You made the concepts of the Famine Times and the natural social and economic fallout sound like a professional documentary. Excellent work!

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I was always fascinated by the stories of what would of happened between God Emperor and Heretics, thankyou for the investigation!

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"Scattering of Dune" Or "Dune: Scattering"

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@@thesinfultictac5704 , in BH and KJA's version of "Scattering of Dune," it'll be a rip-off of Fallout, Borderlands, and Total Recall meets bioengineered Talking Horses and with hints dropped here and of a malfunctional HAL-9000 named Ibll Tegas, which is anagram of Bill Gates.

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It's been too long since I read these books. My memory is that spice-less space travel was rediscovered, not invented. Someone realized that if humanity came from Earth and spice from Arrakis, then humanity had to have had faster than light technology.

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The problem with pre-spice FTL flight was that it needed a thinking machine, which were anathema. Human guidance had a 50% or higher chance of flying into an uncomputed star or planet.

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Before we could fold space, we could still travel, it just took a long time.

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That my friend is the power of human imagination.....something that is being destroyed in 2023

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​@@mephistoxarses8585only if you're an idiot. I have 20 years of world building in my head that begs to differ. Don't be a fogie.

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This scattering is such a rich area barely touched .... Brilliant video... Leto saw it all.....

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Very cool! I think cyborgs was definitely one part of it. If you think about the way the universe was in Heretics & Chapter house, it pretty much flip-flopped everything in the time of the old empire. The way everything was in book one got pretty much turned upside down through the last two books. I think that all culminated with the sisterhood being merged with the honored Matres . My overall Take from the ending was like that of Abraham Lincoln ending the Civil War. Instead of two factions killing each other off until one is the ultimate victor; I think what Frank Herbert was going with here is the idea that the merging of the two factions would be the best solution. Perhaps the idea of cyborg (evil robotics blended with humans) was a kind of side line parallel to reflect how everything Else in the dune universe would become.

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So, would the famine times be the “Great Typhoon Struggle” Leto hinted at in Children of Dune? Humanity would never be the same after the struggle after Lego’s death.

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Out of print and non canon, books 7 & 8 are based on notes left by Frank Herbert in a locked 📦. So, the Dune Encyclopedia does not really follow the Dune story.

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I had previously overlooked the many parallels between Dune and Warhammer 40,000 (miniature military tabletop battle strategy game). The age of strife of WH40k and this age of famines here in Dune. In Warhammer the whole thing was a consequence of reliance upon technology and entrusting too much of humankind’s’ governance with AI. In Dune it seems a cause was the reliance upon spice for warp speed travel. If you follow the 40k lore very deeply at all, you’d find similarities that are undeniable. They’re both great. THANKS FOR SHARING ABOUT THIS!! I ought to read those books you made mention of that highlight these times, and the encyclopedia! Scarier still, is how our humankind is truly on a similar course, veering towards the timeline just before the age of famine in Dune. So many humans would love to scream it from the mountaintops, “Green Light!! Go!! Apocalypse in Full Effect, the horns are a ‘tootin!!”. People seem to genuinely want to either live out Revelations, or would like to think that they were there when it happened, or maybe they’d just like to think that they lived during a very exciting and momentous chapter of mankind’s history. I feel that life itself is exciting. Enough not to feel any morbid desires to see firsthand the end of our World as we know it.

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Okay but why did Leto allow the famine times to happen?

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To keep off upcoming stagnation, people had to be put through drastic times to adapt. Like many natural changes, many would not make it.

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Pretty good video! When I was reading God Emperor of Dune, I had a feeling that machines or AIs were being foreshadowed and the information produced from this research tops it off!

[@TheDaeroner]

I'm one of those who still thinks the Face Dancers made infinitely better antagonist because of the abilities and complications exhibited through Rakian Chief Priest Hedley Tuek for example. That AI angle was lazy, and overplayed for the depth that was the Dune universe. Dune went from being extraordinary, creative and philosophical to mundane, stereotypical and boring... But that's just my opinion.

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In God Emperor of Dune, the God Emperor may have stopped the rise of the machines on Ix. At the end of Chapterhouse Dune, Daniel and Marty are advanced Face Dancers. If there were to be machines or some sort of AI, it would be used as a distraction by highly evolved Face Dancers or Tleilaxu against the Humans so they can launch their dominance in all aspects of human societies across the universe.

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Remember that Dune was written 50 years ago. It wasnt "stereotypical" then to go that route.

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3,000 years of stability? No, I think it was more enforced stagnation with a purpose, when Leto transcended, humanity would explode across the galaxy, without the spice to extend life the major birthrate would have to explode just to maintain, only with much more a resistance to prescience, due to Leto's own breed program. Any of humanity that over specialize, something Leto well knew, would die out or be forced to completely change who the people in question were.

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Glad I'm not the only one thinking on those lines....still, I don't think Organism's going to win out, no matter how much chrome it buys, its still just Organism. Its not how much chrome your packin, its how your mind uses it.

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Are there any good "art of dune" collection books? I'd like to have some pre-movie art...

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Sounds very much like another scenario played out in another genre: Cyborgs become prevalent; the Machine culture finds out and infiltrates them; Then, something similar to the cry: "We are the Borg" is heard across the shattered empire of Man...

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Leto II didn’t design a system to function without him, because Leto II was a monster.

[@FerociousMoOoO]

Leto II didn't create a system to function after him because the famine times and the resultant scattering are part of the golden path. Humanity was doomed if it stayed on its course, the Empire was stagnant and lost the ability to innovate and evolve. Paul and Leto II saw that if humanity stayed as it was then it'd be vulnerable to being wiped out. Paul saw that in order to save humanity he would need to sacrifice his own but he could not bear the burden of becoming the God Emperor. Leto II didn't have that choice, he saw how the Jihad had evolved and how Alia had run the regency and knew that he has no choice and he must become the God Emperor because even in the hands of the Attradies who should know how to steer humanity on the right path to avoid extinction humanity was still doomed because individual rulers could not hold the course over the length of time that was needed to ensure humanity evolved in the right direction to survive. Leto II saw that human society was sinking into stagnant ways and had stopped expanding as a species. He could see that all human timelines converged into a single thread which ended with our extinction. There was a threat in the far future that would hunt down and kill every human it could find. If humans only stayed within the familiar bounds of the old empire they could all easily be fond and wiped out. Leto II enforced his peace onto his empire with the intent that when he died no one power would be able to gain total control of all of humanity ever again. He saw that after the famine times there would come the scattering. But he also saw that humanity would still be vulnerable to the orical and and an enemy with prescience would be able to track any human down. So he also used his rule to co-opt the BG breading plan to create a gene in humans that would shield them from prescience and to make sure that gene would be passed along to most of the human race in time. Leto II was not a monster he just knew what needed to be done and knew that he was the only person that could do it. Was the Golden Path abhorrent? Yes it's horrible, Duncan and Siona both say so often. Was it the only way to allow humanity to survive? Also yes.