Dune, Lost in Adaptation ~ The Dom

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Dominic Noble

Dominic Noble

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How can this be? For it IS lost in adaptation. The Dom tries and fails not to lose his shit while looking at David Lynch's interpretation of Dune.
Yeesh... How bad does my face look in that opening parody? I gotta get me some skin care products....
Someone who's read all the books recommended doing so over a period of about 10 years so while I will get around to reading the sequels eventually don't hold your breath for my thoughts.
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@1sliiver
@1sliiver 4 жыл бұрын
I dunno...Patrick Stewart running into battle screaming with a pug under his arm might be the most badass thing I've ever seen on film.
@itsaUSBline
@itsaUSBline 2 жыл бұрын
It's honestly probably the most enjoyable moment in the movie.
@Skabanis
@Skabanis 2 жыл бұрын
Like 👍 yes top notch
@charlirenner193
@charlirenner193 Жыл бұрын
It's Patrick Stewart, he can make almost anything badass.
@DeadManSinging1
@DeadManSinging1 Жыл бұрын
The Pug is there because Noble Houses of Yore used to have like a breed of dog associated with them
@Dim4323
@Dim4323 4 ай бұрын
I dont recall dogs being in the book.
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230 2 жыл бұрын
There is one thing to note. Frank Herbert liked the film. And he got to see his magnum opus brought to life just before he died. This is his direct quote: “The story is there. They saved the story. It's all there. That's what the author worries about,” Herbert said. “It's a different language on that screen and if they’re adroit, and sensitive about picking their visual metaphors, the story comes off the screen.”
@Orlor
@Orlor 4 жыл бұрын
"What the hell is wrong with you, Lynch?" I take it you've never seen Eraserhead. You hire Lynch to direct a movie, you get lynch directing your movie...
@templarw20
@templarw20 Жыл бұрын
I mean.. still WAY less strange and closer to the original book than what Jodorowsky wanted...
@LiarNobody
@LiarNobody 9 жыл бұрын
I feel like a moron now, because I have spent all these years believing every character in Dune was actually telepathic, and they'd been speaking to each other with their minds when all that monologuing was happening.
@XanthusPictures
@XanthusPictures 9 жыл бұрын
Dallas John I can't exactly blame you. To be fair, telepathy isn't any weirder than anything else in this movie.
@mastermarkus5307
@mastermarkus5307 9 жыл бұрын
Dallas John That was exactly what I thought. Movies just don't _have_ internal monologues.
@codeoptimizationware2803
@codeoptimizationware2803 6 жыл бұрын
@Dallas John, Schachter Factor, & Master Markus: Aw, shit! You are morons. Lynch and others involved in the 1984 _Dune_ film drew that directly from Herbert's source-material novel, even though Fuckity-Fuck Boy in the video above didn't mention that, somehow didn't know it, but said that he read the book. Telepathy!? Where in the fuck did you get that from!? Because I don't think you got it from the film! Ahh, this review sucks, despite that The Dom has done at least a couple of very good reviews other than this one!
@searchingfororion
@searchingfororion 6 жыл бұрын
Code Optimization Ware No, it's a fair thought, especially when you are dealing with characters that can manipulate others verbally, see their future, somehow psychologically eavesdrop in conversations, predict the future, and other psycic aspects. I watched this with subtitles/captions and it honestly was the only way I was able to keep up with the internal monologues. At first I thought it was some form of thought projection as well. Perhaps if the first characters used for this application were not the psychically inclined characters it wouldn't lead people to that level of confusion. It certainly seems like they are having a conversation in the introductory scene with the emperor, that sets the experience for the rest of the film where the audience is asking themselves, "Are mother and son communicating telepathically? This must be because of their species." Honestly, it wasn't until the doctor came onscreen that I realized all of the thoughts were strictly internal.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
@@searchingfororion The characters in the book itself wonder if The Bene Gesserit are telepathic, so I think it's a perfectly reasonable idea.
@rebeccaliar9873
@rebeccaliar9873 9 жыл бұрын
I admire your dedication to the craft in guzzling that bottle, even if it was just apple juice.
@codeoptimizationware2803
@codeoptimizationware2803 6 жыл бұрын
@Nathanael Unger: AAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one, man! Best Comment I've read all week, or longer! WAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO
@alicedarhk9790
@alicedarhk9790 5 жыл бұрын
See his "Last Unicorn" review where he rapid fire drinks Red Bull
@ashleightompkins3200
@ashleightompkins3200 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who has actually drunken two or more litres of apple juice, it really does take dedication as it turns my insides to water
@alexlemonds2838
@alexlemonds2838 4 жыл бұрын
@@ashleightompkins3200 Eh, I prefer grape juice.
@Belgand
@Belgand 4 жыл бұрын
The SoCo must flow!
@redfeildre349
@redfeildre349 8 жыл бұрын
An H.P.Lovecraft re-imagining of Peter Pan? I'd pay to see that. While we're at it, who wants to read a fan fic called Harry Potter and the Call of Cthulhu?
@wratched
@wratched 8 жыл бұрын
+Redfeild RE Given that the real Peter Pan from the book is a complete psychopath and possible murderer, a Lovecraft-inspired reimagining wouldn't be that difficult.
@timafterdark3759
@timafterdark3759 5 жыл бұрын
I’d pay $50 to read that
@TheMimiSard
@TheMimiSard 5 жыл бұрын
I have read a HP/Cthulhu cross, it was short piece where a vengeful Harry got hold of a copy of the Necronomicon and was using it drink people mad. He recalled a mention of some octopus creature and wondered if the Giant Squid wanted a buddy. Several weeks later the army comes to look around the crater where Hogwarts used to be.
@xxedgy_outsiderxx9978
@xxedgy_outsiderxx9978 5 жыл бұрын
That would be so awesome
@tarod3
@tarod3 4 жыл бұрын
Redfeild RE I read a great remake where Harry and Voldemort are best friends. Premise is Harry’s into space travel and science, so they bond over how bullshit the wizard if world is.
@Exurb1a
@Exurb1a 8 жыл бұрын
I've just sat and watched the majority of your videos and can now safely say I have literally no idea why you aren't swimming up to your neck in subscribers. Your production quality is absurdly high, and your humour's spot on. Just a little note to say keep on keeping on, your work is outstanding.
@archive9796
@archive9796 8 жыл бұрын
I totally agree WHY DOESNT HE HAVE MORE SUBS HES GREAT
@svnhddbst8968
@svnhddbst8968 6 жыл бұрын
people have bad taste, and hate taking the time to listen to someone explain smart things.
@petra5979
@petra5979 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, exurb1a, another outstanding British youtuber in the same place
@catfoy8888
@catfoy8888 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you and there’s another reviewer that doesn’t get enough subscribers and is great his name is cinematic excremant
@ginge641
@ginge641 6 жыл бұрын
cat foy There's also Unusual Suspect.
@etcetera1995
@etcetera1995 5 жыл бұрын
Well, the *soliloquy* is an accepted convention in Shakespeare, and THOSE aren’t even voiceovers. The actor is literally telling the audience what the character is thinking.
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx 2 жыл бұрын
But that's the point, soliloquies are _not_ inner monologue. They're just the character thinking out loud (the word even means "talking to oneself"). There's a difference. Soliloquies can work just fine because of how they're _framed,_ but the voiceover just comes off as awkward and confusing. Which is weird, when you think about it, considering it works fine in animation.
@tyrxian6452
@tyrxian6452 4 ай бұрын
Plus soliloquy is THEATRE, if you want a soliloquy then adapt Dune as a play
@farkasmactavish
@farkasmactavish 2 ай бұрын
​@@RabblesTheBinxNo it doesn't. Unless you also think anime inner monologue voiceovers are awkward and confusing.
@MarcLombart
@MarcLombart 7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you missed a major change. In the movie, they implicitly state that guild navigators fold space by using their spice evolved brains. In the book it is shown that Holtzman Engines fold the space, the navigators plot a safe course.
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 4 жыл бұрын
That makes their title much more abt as well. If they where the one's who folded space, they wouldn't be navigators but more akin to sails
@its-morbintime
@its-morbintime 9 жыл бұрын
Actually if you want to add more nightmare fuel to the whole "Lynch could've directed Return Of The Jedi", Jabba The Hutt wasn't originally revealed until that film, imagine what Lynch would've come up with for the design. Considering what the Guild and The Baron were designed as in Dune, I'm only imagining what he would've come up with.
@count_bodies_like_sheep9296
@count_bodies_like_sheep9296 8 жыл бұрын
+Morbius Fitzgerald I'm already convinced Lynch may have had a part in making Jabba's character in the star wars franchise
@ScribeVideoCenter
@ScribeVideoCenter 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Lamere Jabba is meant to be a fairly normal space human in a planning sketch...
@koatam
@koatam 5 жыл бұрын
They filmed a scene with him in the original. He was just a short fat guy with a fur coat. In the special edition they placed a CG Jabba over him.
@gronklevlonkle1717
@gronklevlonkle1717 5 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAH AAAAAH AAAAAH
@skibot9974
@skibot9974 3 жыл бұрын
@@koatam well the plan was always to replace him with a creature in post they just never got around to it
@kght222
@kght222 7 жыл бұрын
9:39 heart plugs are also cannon, although the example in this movie is wrong, the baron got pleasure from suffering. pulling a heart plug results in nearly immediate almost painless death especially when considering what the baron was really in to. he didn't like meaningless death, but he could put a meaning on any death, frequently with torture as part of the message.
@themwhiskers2067
@themwhiskers2067 8 жыл бұрын
FYI; The spoken-in-loud thoughts is a very common trope in anime. I'm not saying Dune can be excussed because of this, but i've seen good use made with this trope over the years, so i would'nt say it's "dumb". Just missused.
@SorchaSublime
@SorchaSublime 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, specifically in anime it tends to be more dynamic, in high octane, or stressful scenes. to represent this, the voices used for thoughts HAVE FUCKING EMOTION AND ARENT WHISPERING
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was well executed. Fucking Millennials have zero imagination.
@anormaldudewhowasattackedb9864
@anormaldudewhowasattackedb9864 4 жыл бұрын
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 well your thoughts are fucking stupid then
@janedoeeyed4155
@janedoeeyed4155 4 жыл бұрын
Also happens in original dark crystal movie... Poorly.
@SunnysFilms
@SunnysFilms 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with its use in Dune is that it never shuts up and it's often used in really silly moments (cue Paul with a pug inner monologuing about the room he's in). Inner monologue narration is an artform that Lynch clearly didn't know how to use.
@SarahAndreaRoycesChannel
@SarahAndreaRoycesChannel 9 жыл бұрын
It is also sad that the film concentrated so much on the "Messiah" angle that it overlooked all the forshadowing to later books about how much he abuses this role for his personal revenge at the cost of sterilizing whole planet with the Jihad that eventually follows it. A book (made clearer in the later books though) that so much lampshaded and deconstructed "The heros journey" and "The One".
@PaulaSB12
@PaulaSB12 3 жыл бұрын
the book was a warning AGAINST a messiah because of their danger his son Leto who became god emperor knew that and to save humanity had himself killed
@jacobstallard2678
@jacobstallard2678 3 жыл бұрын
I believe Paul and his son discuss the various visions and debate which is best. Paul says he saw that even if he had died, by the time he had ridden the great sandworm, that the jihad would have happen anyways. So he chose the future with the fewest deaths, via jihad and then chose to become the old wandering man in the desert.
@Smalls-eye24
@Smalls-eye24 6 жыл бұрын
I remember waking up to this in the middle of the night and it was playing automatically on cable tv. It seemed like such a fever dream
@dionadair8195
@dionadair8195 2 жыл бұрын
Who's watching this after the new movie kind of blew their minds?
@PaintSplashProductions
@PaintSplashProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the new amazing Dune movie and I thought it would be fun to rewatch your review again. I love your random break downs of confusion 😂
@willipphittebane5741
@willipphittebane5741 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched it too, it was great. The only things I didn't like were that they cut the Baron's intro scene from the book (the one with the globe where he's in the shadows), and that they didn't change the voice into something more subtle.
@BinturongGirl
@BinturongGirl 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, Lynch's way of portraying the various internal monologues is pretty much the same approach as the one used by the Deathnote anime. And it worked pretty well for Light and L
@milesgreb3537
@milesgreb3537 8 жыл бұрын
Regardless of any point you make, or any argument for or against it - it is a failed adaptation. It's core point is the exact opposite of the core point of Dune Proper. Dune is the Story of how Heores and Godheads lie to us; and even they can not save us from the harm they cause. This film says Paul leaves Dune in Peace and Love and saves the day I also suspect it is impossible to do the film without internal monologue. Also, not to be rude bud, but the plot to kill the Duke was well known. It was never secret to anyone. It was about how everyone tried to level out of it, not they they knew of it.
@PsychoholicSlag83
@PsychoholicSlag83 8 жыл бұрын
Sadly, Hollywood will never make that. One of the things I liked the most about Dune is that Paul and his son are very cuestionable heroes, this and the mini-series are Disney-like versions of the story
@NicoleEtJoelle
@NicoleEtJoelle 8 жыл бұрын
The plot was well known yes, but the Guild involvement wasn't well known, that was known only after Paul had become (or had proven he was) the Kwisatz Haderach. The fremen thought that the Guild was on their side (kind of, sort of).
@rufousthefox9766
@rufousthefox9766 2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen Villeneuve's adaptation?
@damiantirado9616
@damiantirado9616 Жыл бұрын
@@rufousthefox9766 yes we’ve all seen it and it wasn’t a good adaption.
@TDF9055
@TDF9055 9 жыл бұрын
You should do 'Holes'. That would be an interesting topic.
@Frahamen
@Frahamen 9 жыл бұрын
TDF9055 aka "Plot Holes"?
@TDF9055
@TDF9055 9 жыл бұрын
Frahamen I mean the Louis Sachar book and the film that he also wrote.
@KidSnivy69
@KidSnivy69 9 жыл бұрын
Agreed that was one of the few books I read before it's adaptation
@joannamarieart
@joannamarieart 7 жыл бұрын
Holes was a great book and also a great adaption! I'd love to see a video of that :D
@sybillestahl8646
@sybillestahl8646 5 жыл бұрын
TDF9055 I love Holes! Both the book and the film, which doesn’t get nearly the appreciation it should. Just look at that cast!
@danzigrulze5211
@danzigrulze5211 7 жыл бұрын
The movie isn't a great adaptation, but man the soundtrack is fucking epic. Like every time I hear the music I get chills.
@TheCyberwoman
@TheCyberwoman 7 жыл бұрын
Somehow anime makes internal monologues work, I guess it's just an accepted convention of the medium.
@madsstokes
@madsstokes Жыл бұрын
The internal monologues in this movie always made me so happy.
@alicedarhk9790
@alicedarhk9790 7 жыл бұрын
*deadpan* Yes, heavy drinking matches the tone to a guy drinking himself into a stooper goes *amazingly* with Ave Maria.
@AwakeAtTheWheel
@AwakeAtTheWheel 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the inner monologues also, it added to the mystical tone.
@AquaFan1998
@AquaFan1998 5 ай бұрын
Id love a reverse lost in adaptation. Like when a novelisation of a movie comes out with ealier, removed or changed things and how it changes things
@whaitiritua-warbrick1398
@whaitiritua-warbrick1398 8 жыл бұрын
Thats how the Navigators were described in the sequels and prequels. Giant headed, tiny bodied,webbed fingered, space folding, drug taking baby people
@wireboar7321
@wireboar7321 4 жыл бұрын
No, the navigators were described in the second book as fish-like appearance with webbed hands and feet, the second book came out in 1969,there wasn't anything close to baby people, they could even swim in their tanks
@simonduran9376
@simonduran9376 3 жыл бұрын
The navigators never folded the space themselves, they simply plotted the safest course through prescience. It was Holtzmann engine that folded the space.
@GuitarrAssassin
@GuitarrAssassin 3 жыл бұрын
12:51 Just want to point out that the Fremen were multiracial as Arrakis was originally a prison colony similar to Australia.
@trequor
@trequor Жыл бұрын
Then why is their culture so middle eastern? Australian prison colonists were also not particularly diverse
@Laudanum-gq3bl
@Laudanum-gq3bl 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, in 1985, my fifteen-year-old chums and I went to see Dune mostly because Sting was wearing leather space Speedos.
@Laudanum-gq3bl
@Laudanum-gq3bl 3 жыл бұрын
@Cartoon Judge! C.G. we were very, very confused. You can’t imagine.
@Laudanum-gq3bl
@Laudanum-gq3bl 3 жыл бұрын
@Cartoon Judge! C.G. I’m pretty creative, but not nearly weird enough to picture that, LOL.
@ZabreDarklight
@ZabreDarklight 2 жыл бұрын
Having not read the book, I loved this film! It has a feeling of epicness about it!
@omgjlmiub
@omgjlmiub 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao when Paul caved in the floor with his voice. God the voice in the movie pisses me off. The book specifically said it was supposed to be extremely compelling and it was different for every person. Making them want to perform an action not microwaved radio voice filter. The book took so much into consideration, the Las guns and the shields specifically. Like I love how when the book finally fires the Las guns it was so intense because there was so much set up (the shield generators, the whole point of Yule’s betrayal was to set up the Las gun attack), and something that almost never happens again. And I actually really respected and liked the Baron because the Baron wasn’t just some evil villain. He respected Duke Leto and wished they didn’t have to be enemies. He never wanted to torture the Duke because the Baron held royalty to such high esteem. Like, when you read about the Baron, besides his grotesque size, he was as mighty and graceful as you would expect from nobility.
@LOTR22090able
@LOTR22090able 3 жыл бұрын
It's ironic that once in the book they described his face as "cherubic"
@Stephen5000
@Stephen5000 9 жыл бұрын
Despite all the changes, I still found the movie highly entertaining. And the music is awesome.
@mainstreetsaint36
@mainstreetsaint36 9 жыл бұрын
Stephen5000 Toto did an amazing job on that soundtrack.
@paultheroman6637
@paultheroman6637 8 жыл бұрын
+Stephen5000 I must agree that the soundtrack and score for the Lynch production was superior. However, neither the movie nor the mini did justice to the novel and a truly faithful adaptation would need to be at least 10 hours long.
@KingAlpaca
@KingAlpaca 8 жыл бұрын
+Stephen5000 Best soundtrack ever
@Rgoid
@Rgoid 5 жыл бұрын
Paul the Roman Who would sit still for THAT?
@paultheroman6637
@paultheroman6637 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rgoid Perhaps the audience that were captivated by "Game of Thrones"?
@marcusklemm6722
@marcusklemm6722 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything except the shields. They may not have looked exactly as described in the book but I really liked this "cubistic" style.
@manfedmedviq
@manfedmedviq 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this show, Dom. To be honest, I don't think this novel should be adapted in a movie, it may be more successful as a TV series. Let's just hope that someone up there on HBO is willing to adapt Dune as a TV series GoT style. With all the novels, they could have enough material to work with. Heck, I would love to see them adapting Jodorowsky's version of Dune.
@jasonGamesMaster
@jasonGamesMaster 6 ай бұрын
I rather like the Sci-Fi miniseries. Yes it was made with $2 and a bottle of scotch, but it managed to actually get it all in accurately. Even though Denis Villeneuve's version is awesome but the Sci-Fi version is still my favorite version
@joelbizzell1386
@joelbizzell1386 4 жыл бұрын
I actually love the movie. Saw it as a lad, so it has nostalgia. And I became quite the devoted Lynch fan later, and while I am aware of his thoughts on the movie now, I still can't help but be sucked into this adaptation. The atmosphere is unrivaled. But, you know, to each his own.
@malonemalo
@malonemalo 9 жыл бұрын
Wait, someone didn't get that Starship Troopers was satire?
@dinosword3256
@dinosword3256 9 жыл бұрын
Depends if the satire was good or not
@XiiCubed
@XiiCubed 9 жыл бұрын
The movie was. The book wasn't
@RottenRogerDM
@RottenRogerDM 9 жыл бұрын
+Manuelman Never hear the film called satire until the last 10 years. And it wasn't good satire.
@paultheroman6637
@paultheroman6637 8 жыл бұрын
+Manuelman Paul Verhoven's talents as a director are questionable at best but there has yet to be any adaptation of Heinleins works that are any good.
@RottenRogerDM
@RottenRogerDM 8 жыл бұрын
If you can find predestination on dvd, it did a good job on "all you zombies".
@count_bodies_like_sheep9296
@count_bodies_like_sheep9296 8 жыл бұрын
Let me remind you Dom, this is a David Lynch film, of course there's gonna be fucked up shit
@2wingo
@2wingo 7 жыл бұрын
The Straight Story wasn't fucked up in the least, and it was good.
@alishastephenson9694
@alishastephenson9694 7 жыл бұрын
Which is a good reason he shouldn't have directed the movie.
@randygiles845
@randygiles845 11 ай бұрын
I saw this in the theater when I was 12, and then countless times on a VHS tape recorded off TV before I ever read the book, so I was much more forgiving of the changes and weirdness. I have read the book several times now and still enjoy the crazy movie!
@MetalJesus157
@MetalJesus157 2 жыл бұрын
There's a 2 disc set of this movie that includes an extended cut and several deleted scenes. I'd recommend that fans of the book check that out if they were disappointed by the theatrical cut.
@NostalgiaBrit
@NostalgiaBrit 5 жыл бұрын
I utterly LOVE this movie, every version of it, even as a fan of the book! I'm not ashamed!
@tobequitefranco
@tobequitefranco 2 жыл бұрын
Who else is here after watching Dom's most recent Dune video?
@lasseehrenreich5502
@lasseehrenreich5502 Жыл бұрын
me
@idontknowwhyihavesubcribers
@idontknowwhyihavesubcribers 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best all-round comparisons of the book and film that I've seen. I actually liked both the book and the file, but you're right about the adaptation. I think that it's the Encylopedia of Science Fiction that said that Lynch took a highly complex work and turned it into melodrama - like the rest of Lynch's work. Hence the unsubtle villains. And another thing that the film got completely wrong: the film ends with Princess Irulan saying, "Where there was war, Muad'dib would now bring peace", whereas in the book, he actually brings the jihad (i.e. a very long war that starts *after* he deposes the Emperor). A little different :).
@Nootathotep
@Nootathotep 8 жыл бұрын
I would watch H. P. Lovecraft's reimagining of Peter Pan xD
@williamdavis671
@williamdavis671 4 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that even to this day the Dom's liver still hasn't fully recovered from this video
@Pratchettgaiman
@Pratchettgaiman 9 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do one for the Sci Fi Channel's adaptation of Dune? I've heard that's considered a bit more faithful
@happyninja42
@happyninja42 9 жыл бұрын
***** I would suggest watching it at least. Personally I love Lynch's Dune, even with how weird it is, and how much stuff they change. I understand how some people can watch it and go "WTF was that!?" but personally, I still love it. xD The Sci Fi version was a much better adaptation, but still changed some stuff. Still, overall, it's a good watch, as well as the follow-up Children of Dune they did.
@happyninja42
@happyninja42 9 жыл бұрын
TheRezro Heh, it's not even a guilty pleasure for me. I have no guilt for loving that movie. I am a proud Dune-Lynch fan. xD I liked the miniseries too, as it got a few of the characters more accurately, while also messing up a few of them that the Lynch movie didn't. Overall though, they were good attempts at tackling a pretty tough source material and making it a film. I own all of them.
@Gusanoman
@Gusanoman 9 жыл бұрын
happyninja42 Mmmmm. I would not say it´s a good movie but it has really interesting visuals. The worms are fantastic. The stillsuits are almost exactly as I imagined them and a lot of the designs of ships and technology was pretty awesome and unique. But even if you didn't read the books, it´s a total mess. The constant internal monologue makes the passing eternal and most of the plot is not well explained or even suggested Besides, the action scenes have no impact and a ton of characters are there just because they were in the book. They lose their main role and act as a watered version of themselves that makes little to no sense.
@kebernet
@kebernet 7 жыл бұрын
The Sci-Fi channel Dune is watchable. Their "Children of Dune" (Dune Messiah/Children of Dune), is actually quite good.
@Rgoid
@Rgoid 4 жыл бұрын
He did.
@DarthRushy
@DarthRushy 9 жыл бұрын
5:51 I felt my heart jump here, no joke.
@mackenziegivens6061
@mackenziegivens6061 Жыл бұрын
Me when I first saw a frill shark: Also me when I first saw that giant fetus from Resident Evil 8:
@khinthan9044
@khinthan9044 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Lynch's Return of the Jedi would've been like?
@purgejmi
@purgejmi 3 жыл бұрын
Here because of the new Dune trailer
@StargazerSkyscraper
@StargazerSkyscraper 8 жыл бұрын
You make a lot of fair points! To be honest, though, the movie's still a guilty pleasure of mine and possibly always will be. I'm well aware of the inconsistencies between the book and the movie as well as the many blatant flaws, but for some reason, I can't not love this adaptation. I can't really explain it. It's not even a so-bad-it's-good kind of enjoyment. It might be the music, the costumes, some of the effects and visual choices, the mood, certain scenes and dialogue, and, to be honest, I actually liked that weird inner-monologue thing. It was just weird enough to make sense to me. Perhaps if I'd watched the movie immediately after reading the book, I would have felt different, but by the time I got around to seeing the movie, three years had passed since I last read Dune.
@StargazerSkyscraper
@StargazerSkyscraper 8 жыл бұрын
***** For sure, the project changed hands very often and by the time it go into David Lynch's hands, there was so much going on that things had to be added or changed last minute to suite various audiences, please the employers, etc. etc. and it almost didn't happen at all. I guess that's part of the fun in it for me, LOL: seeing what they managed to come up with despite the many obstacles. It was all very real though, obviously, regardless of the circumstances surrounding it... I guess I'm not sure really what you mean by that.
@StargazerSkyscraper
@StargazerSkyscraper 8 жыл бұрын
***** Well, it's not, really, considering they started several years before with a concept based very much off the book. In fact, one of the main concerns throughout the project was how they would ever be able to adapt such a complex and multi-layered story into a reasonable run time and still get people in the seats. The events shared between the book and the film have a clear causal connection, being that the movie was always intended to be an adaption of some kind, therefore not a coincidence.
@ChrisisisB
@ChrisisisB 8 жыл бұрын
I like the movie also. First time I saw it I was a bit upset as a book reader, but it grew on me. I usually say that it was too confusing for those that did not read the books and too different from the book for the fans of the book to like it. It does have it's bad parts and good parts, but I think the good parts outweigh the bad. Stellar cast, excellent music, some really good scenes like the spice mining. It compares very favorably to the miniseries, but the miniseries continuation is also good.
@StargazerSkyscraper
@StargazerSkyscraper 8 жыл бұрын
ChrisisisB I haven't watched the miniseries, to be honest. I guess I'm just so used to Syfy's productions ranging from mediocre to brainless that I didn't really have a lot of hope for it. If so many people who read the book say it's good, though, I might have to check it out.
@KidSnivy69
@KidSnivy69 7 жыл бұрын
I just wish I understood what the hell happened in this movie
@Gerilyn2003
@Gerilyn2003 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta admit though, the soundtrack by Toto is awesomely wonderful.
@PaladinGuy
@PaladinGuy 9 жыл бұрын
7:40 - OH MY GOD! What's wrong with your faaaaaaaaaaaaaace?!?!
@dracocrusher
@dracocrusher 8 жыл бұрын
+Fozzie Droog Jar Jar is the key to everything
@yarpen26
@yarpen26 7 жыл бұрын
The David Lynch Dune adaptation is the worst thing that happened since my father.
@keriezy
@keriezy 7 жыл бұрын
I want an animated version. At least the director can include it all. Animation lets you do a lot!
@Cephalopod51
@Cephalopod51 9 жыл бұрын
The worms not attacking Paul when he was in a Water of Life trance was I think a homage to Children of Dune, in which Leto II could control the worms. The way I interpret this scene is that the worms understood Paul's significance, and were worshiping him. I know it's not in the book, but it was a damn awesome scene, and I will still defend it.
@garthgilmourni
@garthgilmourni 7 жыл бұрын
You sir are a genius. LOL many times, especially on 'Satan gargling Listerine'. Well done and thank you.
@innerguardianXIII
@innerguardianXIII 2 жыл бұрын
"You have to suffer for your art". I think in THIS case, David Lynch was having a Hellraiseresque pain>pleasure high and viewers (especially Dom in both character and physically) suffered from it.
@oravasong6111
@oravasong6111 7 жыл бұрын
You make me want to read the book. Thank you.
@NodDisciple1
@NodDisciple1 7 жыл бұрын
Sigh...I sometimes think I'm the only one who loved the '84 version and thought is was superior to the 2000's mini-serials. :-/
@MikeKiker
@MikeKiker 9 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the documentary Jodorowsky's Dune?
@Lucy-31
@Lucy-31 3 жыл бұрын
New Dune trailer made me want to watch this again.
@ChaoticGoodFloof
@ChaoticGoodFloof 3 жыл бұрын
The inner head thing actually worked really well in one of my favourite TV shows Young Justice
@StandAsYouAre
@StandAsYouAre 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of people feel that way about everything David does, and does embraces the "You Decide" mantra. He won't explain anything, what you take away is for your mind to decide.
@stevenbrawley326
@stevenbrawley326 7 жыл бұрын
Your reactions were hilarious, and made laugh in a way I hadn't in a while. Your points were valid. I still like the film, for nostalgia's sake.
@YuhNinja
@YuhNinja 3 жыл бұрын
It's back!
@TimothySielbeck-1
@TimothySielbeck-1 7 жыл бұрын
I saw the movie when it first came out without having, previously, read the books. I liked it but my friend, who had read the books, did not.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. That was what the Navigators look like, as was revealed at the beginning of the second book. Lynch obviously loved their grotesque appearance.
@LaurentiuBadea
@LaurentiuBadea 9 жыл бұрын
I may be alone on this, but I thought the co-production TV mini series was way better.
@willmiester4051
@willmiester4051 7 жыл бұрын
"Did Paul just become the dragon born!?" I died XD!
@eugec.c.2299
@eugec.c.2299 2 жыл бұрын
I've rewatched this after seeing 2021's Dune and I can't wait for a new Lost in Adaptation
@suedove2416
@suedove2416 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar 9 жыл бұрын
I remember the 'Heart Plugs' from the Dune movie, creeped me out as a kid. Dunno why my parents let me see this movie as a kid, or maybe they didn't realise, I dunno.
@Rgoid
@Rgoid 5 жыл бұрын
7:29 “I’m pretty sure it wasn’t supposed to sound like Satan gargling Listerine.” LOL!
@thecornerkid402
@thecornerkid402 4 жыл бұрын
When asking, "Is the kind of stuff you got off on, Lynch?" I realized that you've probably never seen his other movies. The man is a loon.
@mrmusicalmuffin9806
@mrmusicalmuffin9806 7 жыл бұрын
I think I would actually pay to have the nose line from Darth Vader in cannon
@Daihatski
@Daihatski 9 жыл бұрын
Congratulations ! I didn't think a Dune review would come so soon, but I'm happy to see you did an amazing job on it. Very funny, very good video. :) I love all of the Dune Books, the third (in my opinion) is the best, because Pauls sister is a vastly more interesting character than he is. And we finally get some ideas of what the "golden path" is (i hope it's called golden path in english - only read german). But I don't remember whether Herbert introduced the golden path in the first or second book ... hmmmm.... too long ago. Mhhhhhh .... where was I? Oh yes, you are right "The Dom": We love your Lost in Adaption series, as it is the most interesting format of reviewing films I've seen in a long, long time and you execute it better every time. The Spice tells me you are on a great path. At least I hope that was spice. Ohhhh .... I can see Noises ...
@lerchfreyley1
@lerchfreyley1 7 жыл бұрын
You made an ERROR, ... Dogs were actually mentioned in the HERBERT books, albeit a genetically, tampered with, version , in the future, called CHAIRDOGS....OK so you get a pass on that one.
@admech590
@admech590 7 жыл бұрын
good...cause i love dogs
@CodeeXD
@CodeeXD 5 жыл бұрын
They also massaged you lol
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx 4 жыл бұрын
Chairdogs first appeared in Heretics of Dune (the fifth book of the original series), which came out the same year as the Lynch film premiered in and well after principal photography finished, so it's still an adaptation fail (not to mention the fact that chairdogs are described as looking more like furry armchairs than actual dogs) and in no way an error on Dominic's part.
@Rgoid
@Rgoid 4 жыл бұрын
So . . . pugs are chairdogs.
@realeala
@realeala 9 жыл бұрын
i would have liked to have seen jodorowsky's dune, instead of lynches
@S2Cents
@S2Cents 9 жыл бұрын
***** Awesome would be a cartoon version of Jodorowsky's version based directly on his production book. The images are stunning and beautiful, psychedelic, freakin' bad ass. It needs to be made. The book as lovingly and exuberantly expressed in those pages must be faithfully realized. It's a sin against humanity to not complete it.
@Tio_Remi
@Tio_Remi 9 жыл бұрын
realeala For what i´ve seen in the Documentary it would be awesome but i´d still be pissed off by the fact that it deviates so much from the source material. I mean....the duke letto gets amputated from every limb,paul is born from a blood drop,arrakis gets all watered up... What´s the point?....why are you gonna take this work of art to put your own thoughts in to it? i really like the book and the suspense and everything but i´m still waiting for a good adaptation. The series are Ok but they still look and feel like crap
@tripdefect87
@tripdefect87 9 жыл бұрын
realeala Go read Jodowsky's comic book, The Metabarons. A lot of elements that were in his adaptation of Dune are in that and it's probably the closest thing we'll ever get
@kalackninja
@kalackninja 9 жыл бұрын
FCKundo because he is an artist and that's what they do
@Tekrothebountyhunter
@Tekrothebountyhunter 9 жыл бұрын
tripdefect87 We'd get an even closer alternative if Jodorowsky ever got around to publishing his production pitch book, with all the concept art and storyboards in it. I honestly don't understand why Jodorowsky never had that book published. Yeah, I know he's fiercely against money and capitalism, but he also wants the world to enjoy his story. Publishing the pitch book would be the best way for him to achieve that!
@SuperRayW
@SuperRayW 6 жыл бұрын
I believe they do provide more context to Kyne's death in the extended editions, but it's been a while. I think they are worth watching; one version even outlines the Butlerian Jihad in the prologue.
@evawind3566
@evawind3566 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Dune. I truly appreciate your take on it, especially considering you read the book and watched the movie. Maybe the only director who might of come close was Jodorowsky as noted shown in Jodorowsky's Dune.
@Hewylewis
@Hewylewis 7 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Denis Villeneuve, director of Arrival and the upcoming Blade Runner 2049, wanting to direct a remake of Dune?
@Dominic-Noble
@Dominic-Noble 7 жыл бұрын
"Meh"
@Hewylewis
@Hewylewis 7 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping that if it does happen, it's more faithful to the original novel.
@TheSuicidalTeddybear
@TheSuicidalTeddybear 7 жыл бұрын
+The Dom Seeing how Denis Vileneuve is a brilliant science fiction director, it does seem like a good choice to be made. That is if Jodorowsky can be his adviser on the project
@Biczeschlappe
@Biczeschlappe 7 жыл бұрын
It'll have some nice cinematography and the actors will have competent direction. That's about as far as I'd go on Villenueve.
@neilpatrick1553
@neilpatrick1553 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think now?
@Gidiwouu
@Gidiwouu 9 жыл бұрын
Will you review Cloud Atlas? I love the Movie and the Book too, even though there are many differences.
@smit4459
@smit4459 3 жыл бұрын
"Cloud Atlas" is one of my favorite books, as well one of my favorite films.
@b3lurxxxm3duza
@b3lurxxxm3duza 9 жыл бұрын
this video made me want to read dune. I read the first chapter and i was hooked
@DaisukeTrekFan
@DaisukeTrekFan 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the Red Dwarf-ish intro for this, also been ages since I watched this the first time around and I still love going back and rewatching these old reviews. Would love to see them "remastered" in a way with the skills at reviewing you have now.
@Cheesusful
@Cheesusful 2 жыл бұрын
Same :) he also looks so different back then :)
@blackphoenix77
@blackphoenix77 8 жыл бұрын
@ 9:47 I'm pretty sure that Rabban is juicing a sandtrout, which is the larval stage of the sandworms of Dune. In the third Dune book, Children of Dune, it is said that the Fremen would squeeze the sandtrout and drink the spice rich fluid that came out of them, which would give them a great rush of energy. So it's basically like drinking a Red Bull.
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx 5 жыл бұрын
Sandtrout are shown in the film, they're much larger than that. EDIT: it's been a long time since I read Children of Dune, but I don't remember anything like that.
@1ListerofSmeg
@1ListerofSmeg 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a secret... It's called a 'Squood' Native vermin/snack on Geidi Prime That they would crush a living thing to immediately consume its fluids was just another little visual demonstration of the Harkonens callousness & brutality. :^) There were tales of some issues with the Squoods on set actually as in: "We have a dry squood over here!" ..not every day is perfection lol.
@TheLisa-Al-Gaib
@TheLisa-Al-Gaib 2 жыл бұрын
That actually makes sense!
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly 6 жыл бұрын
Please do the TV minisieries too! Confession: I liked the internal monologues.
@jtsiomb
@jtsiomb 6 жыл бұрын
It's strange... even though I find myself agreeing with most of your points, I still love this move and its atmosphere.
@bastabey2652
@bastabey2652 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very entertaining and informative video. I finished reading the book and I watched the movie. The worst thing I found in the adaptation is what they did to the villains by make them look so gross reducing them into a disgusting joke. I really doubt whether David Lynch had any clue what the book is about. Good luck for Villeneuve ..
@deloctyte
@deloctyte 9 жыл бұрын
It's an odd coinckidink that both you and SF debris posted a Dune review on pretty much the same day. You also joined Channel Awesome during similar times.... Is there a Superman/Clark Kent thing going on? O.e I have to second Gidiwouu, Cloud Atlas does sound like a fun thing to hear you dissect!
@lucagiovanetti9870
@lucagiovanetti9870 4 жыл бұрын
you can say whatever the hell you want about the movie but i love it! I know lots of people who love it! i think it looks stunning and i love the fact that it looks weird and definitely not mainstream! It's very theatrical and onirical. I simply love it!
@Galvatronover
@Galvatronover Жыл бұрын
It’s a terrible adaptation and film but it is worth watching I might see it for myself
@conradlecroy5821
@conradlecroy5821 2 жыл бұрын
6 years later: and holy crap the new one is actually good!
@captainexcabier
@captainexcabier 8 жыл бұрын
This is about the only movie I've seen with the spoken thoughts dialogue, but I see it in anime all the time.
@LionShard
@LionShard 9 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Will there be Dune (the 2000 one) Lost in Adaptation episode?
@Rgoid
@Rgoid 4 жыл бұрын
LionShard There is.
@legionairesunny5507
@legionairesunny5507 8 жыл бұрын
You should do Scifi's Dune 2000 miniseries. It's much better at adapting the book then this Dune.
@kght222
@kght222 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, they did that shit with the worms in the 2000 version of the movie too all because there was one apparent worm salute in the whole book series. but at least those salutes were supposed to be in "visons".
@RFEM520
@RFEM520 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this. How you felt about the Prisoner I've felt about Dune.
@richtersty
@richtersty 9 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this movie when I saw it as a kid (probably to young), the politics and worldbuilding, the mysticism, the odd production design. It's what got me into classic SF lit. I know part of that is because I couldn't see the flaws as clearly at that age but I still think some parts hold up. First the acting is first class. Prochnow, Stewart, Von Sydow and Ferrer bring in all their 80s character actor gravitas. Even MacLachlan is more watchable than the whiny YA film reject the miniseries cast as the universe's super being. Second, production design is interesting (if weird) and the music (by Toto) is great. I'll admit the script is rough around the edges (although still passable by modern Hollywood standards) and some of the adaptation decisions, whether from Lynch or DiLaurentis, were questionable at best. I'll also agree with you the Lynchian fetishistic weirdness is out of place with the tone of the story, but it's part of the overall attempt to make 8000 years in the future look familiar but alien. A failed attempt then. Overall I think it gets the tone and themes somewhat right, a controversial position I know. I maintain that the film tries to put the viewer in the place of a bystander swept up in the excitement of following a prophet into a holy war while trying at the same time to give a glimpse behind the curtain at the manipulations involved. Another failed attempt, but It worked brilliantly on a ten year old in 1986. For example I argue the movie implies (at least longer versions) that Paul had one of the Fremen's great water stockpiles injected into the storm at the end in a grand propaganda move to make in rain at just the right time and play the part of a god, not that he was one. I don't have an explanation for the shout power, sigh, an advanced form of the voice perhaps? Anyway it makes sense instead of explaining the concept of transforming to 1980s movie viewers to use the rain as a way to show his consciously embodying the Fremen's dream of transforming their home. If you think this was weird watch Jardowski's "I'm Paul" ending, which honestly, I still kind of would like to have seen. Mostly I just can't stop going back to it, even after the miniseries ran it's course for me. The miniseries I find to be dry, slow, cheap and overall a good example of what can go wrong with a slavishly faithful adaptation, like a movie written by wikipedia. The movie was going for crazy, and it got it, just maybe not exactly the right kind of crazy.
@threegoatpurse
@threegoatpurse 4 жыл бұрын
I love both the book and Lynch's adaptation.
@BlitzedNostradamus
@BlitzedNostradamus 7 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the best way to experience these books is by audio. the casting they got for the Macmillon Audio publication in particular is fantastic. Seriously the guy who plays the Barron has a fantastic voice that just works for the character, as well as everyone else.
@lil_dak_1587
@lil_dak_1587 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It was like a mix of Darth Vader and Thanos.
@marekkazmierski8289
@marekkazmierski8289 2 жыл бұрын
I've loved both the books and the film for decades now... thank you for showing me how bleeding wrong i was on the second part of that equation. yes, the film is cutely camp and fun as hell, but can you imagine being Herbert and seeing THAT THING on the BIG SCREEN >???
@wilsonkierankitsune
@wilsonkierankitsune 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite episodes of Lost in Adaptation, mostly for the over the top reactions you have to the fucked up directorial decisions made for this show.
@rebbyberard8150
@rebbyberard8150 Жыл бұрын
I really wonder how anime makes inner monologues being spoken work almost across the board while western media sometimes does a good job (I'm looking at you, The End of the F***ing World) and other times... does Dune
@benjaminedenfield3368
@benjaminedenfield3368 6 жыл бұрын
I still love the movie till this day. I guess being a child of the 80's has something to do with it. However, I agree that a better version needs to be done, maybe in a series. Like a combination of the story of the miniseries and the scope and some of the costumes of the miniseries.
@sapphoculloden5215
@sapphoculloden5215 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I had a dreadful sad and your review of Dune has me giggling too much for the sad to get in.
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