DUNE PROPHECY Episode 2 Breakdown | Easter Eggs, Ending Explained, Book & Movie Call-backs & Review

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@heavyspoilers
@heavyspoilers 3 күн бұрын
PULL OUT YOUR THUMB AND HIT LIKE
@wowailyich615
@wowailyich615 3 күн бұрын
I do hear you. But I do not listen to you. My choices are my own, witch!
@mattcliburn
@mattcliburn 3 күн бұрын
Cmon Paul, ya just told me to ride your worm! Hahahah I'll hit the like instead 🤣
@DannyDynaWhite
@DannyDynaWhite 3 күн бұрын
THE SPICE GIRLS
@avfx
@avfx 3 күн бұрын
Na she means the new guy in the storyline has the power the solider dude... he was born twice when the worm had him for dinner.
@gwina64
@gwina64 2 күн бұрын
Can you explain why Ragnar doesn’t have blue eyes (I know they are blue but they arnt the mutated ones we see the fremen woman has) I know he’s not a native but if he’s been on arrackis long enough you’d think his eyes would have changed like Paul’s did.
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 3 күн бұрын
The poisoning was never replaced by the water of life. The water of life is something unique to Arrakis since it requires a baby worm to be drown and no other planet has baby worms. The process to gain access to a Bene Gesserit's genetic memories requires the ingestion of a very strong poison. Then the sister has to use their internal biological control to neutralize the poison, this is what gives them access to their genetic memories. It's one of the reasons why it's so dangerous, sisters who cannot neutralize the poison will die. It almost killed Paul.
@nakuma33
@nakuma33 3 күн бұрын
The water of life that Paul had is different than the poison that the sisters gave the girl right?
@offlineraided
@offlineraided 3 күн бұрын
​@@nakuma33Yes, Lady Jessica also said that the process to become a reverend mother is different from planet to planet
@EccleezyAvicii
@EccleezyAvicii 3 күн бұрын
It’s a near death experience. It’s also inspired by the profound death-like experience some psychedelics like DMT initially cause after ingestion.
@DavidAnderson-m5c
@DavidAnderson-m5c 3 күн бұрын
Baby worm, Dune, Dune, Dune, Dune, Dune, Dune...
@kimberlyrobinson3992
@kimberlyrobinson3992 3 күн бұрын
@@offlineraided: That’s right! She did say that. I remember that line, now.
@devv197
@devv197 3 күн бұрын
Am i crazy? I truly don’t see any issues with the pacing of the show. I don’t think there was a single wasted scene in the two episodes so far. Maybe things move differently in the books?
@SK4Madhi_Freal
@SK4Madhi_Freal 3 күн бұрын
Hella different bro. Read the books you wont be disappointed.
@shannondaily4562
@shannondaily4562 3 күн бұрын
my hubs finds it slow and goes to bed which is great so I can watch it without him complaining! haha!
@gramajomd
@gramajomd 2 күн бұрын
It's just KZbinrs trying to make content
@mastersmurfify
@mastersmurfify 2 күн бұрын
It has been fine so far and I'm not sure why the critics panned it. Maybe it falls apart later
@Coins.com.
@Coins.com. 2 күн бұрын
Im really enjoying this plus the desmond mystery is cool as not anyone knows who/he is
@Grant918Tulsa
@Grant918Tulsa 3 күн бұрын
He's playing the same role he played in raised by wolves.
@johnadams9193
@johnadams9193 3 күн бұрын
I thought t he same thing last week
@Lemontea-y71
@Lemontea-y71 3 күн бұрын
He is indeed. It's a bit distracting.
@GreenEyedGumby
@GreenEyedGumby 3 күн бұрын
Space Ragnar
@Nion8six
@Nion8six 3 күн бұрын
Probably what they were looking for during casting
@ElChris816
@ElChris816 3 күн бұрын
@@johnadams9193 Same here.
@angeltangle
@angeltangle 3 күн бұрын
Doretea is Lilia's grandmother not her mother. She's the great great grand daughter of the original mother superior. She says 'sorry grand daughter' before Lilia is swarmed by her ancestors.
@ericmatteson8888
@ericmatteson8888 3 күн бұрын
either way, the memory of her death should not be part of the other memories passed on to Lyla.
@taraaliyeva1813
@taraaliyeva1813 2 күн бұрын
Agreed ​@@ericmatteson8888
@ericmatteson8888
@ericmatteson8888 2 күн бұрын
@@taraaliyeva1813 actually, upon reflection, the sisters could have harvested her eggs and worked some artificial fertilization after death. . .they go to crazy lengths to protect valuable bloodlines. Tula might have had a role. They better explain how this was possible either way.
@syntychiahintsin-tee-shaks2256
@syntychiahintsin-tee-shaks2256 23 сағат бұрын
I was wondering because, this is taking place 30 years after Doretea’s death. Lilia is way too young to be her daughter.
@efroster123
@efroster123 3 күн бұрын
I might be the only one who thinks Desmond Hart is a Thinking Machine…
@Leah-xu2fd
@Leah-xu2fd 3 күн бұрын
That's what I thought too! Or an augmented early skindancer.
@Kthulh
@Kthulh 3 күн бұрын
@@Leah-xu2fd Face Dancer ;)
@that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG
@that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG 3 күн бұрын
I was thinking that as well!
@Alexb.92
@Alexb.92 3 күн бұрын
Implanting nano bots inside people to burn them
@jedipsy
@jedipsy 3 күн бұрын
It could explain why he wasn't affected by the Voice
@mattgriffinreal
@mattgriffinreal 3 күн бұрын
Unaliving your own offspring from the afterlife to prove a point is bonkers, I tell ya... BONKERS!!! 😭
@ewoski
@ewoski 3 күн бұрын
They have no connection with their off spring
@jedipsy
@jedipsy 3 күн бұрын
She's not dead, just comatose
@mattgriffinreal
@mattgriffinreal 3 күн бұрын
You nerds need to chill with the technical jargon. It's not that serious.
@WestSideGorilla1980
@WestSideGorilla1980 2 күн бұрын
@mattgriffinreal she's like 14yo and they poisoned her....she was gaslit like HBO pimps up hoe's down 90s style.
@Tay-zonday
@Tay-zonday 2 күн бұрын
​@@mattgriffinrealI think the only point they were making is if you're dead then you're dead that's it but of you're in a coma you can still wake up and potentially be yourself again. Not saying that's gonna happen or anything but that's what I got out of the difference of words being used. I guess go ahead and lash out at me too for challenging anything you say.
@Ramasan20
@Ramasan20 2 күн бұрын
I'm living for this whole series. And the world building is an added bonus. Props to set design and wardrobe!
@Prncskndlng
@Prncskndlng 3 күн бұрын
Did anyone else notice Desmond mentioning losing an eye? And then I looked at his eyes when he was burning the duke and saw his right eye (where he touches his right temple) looks weird. Might be a connection to his power!!!!
@TheKnickwitz
@TheKnickwitz 3 күн бұрын
also the scars seem like he lost half his head leading the center of his right eye
@eja9539
@eja9539 2 күн бұрын
Looked like he was having a stroke
@mesropj
@mesropj 2 күн бұрын
It was strongly implied that Lila doesn't have a biological mother. IMO, she was genetically constructed from the blood of Dorotea, which is why she wasn't able to see her mother in the Agony vision-because she literally doesn't have one. The Sisterhood didn't want to lose access to Raquella Berto-Anirul's genetic memory after Valya Harkonnen offed Dorotea (being her only descendent, I think), so they created Lila in their lab, which is the big secret they were hiding from Lila.
@Unknown-bs1kz
@Unknown-bs1kz 2 күн бұрын
Maybe… that’s a good one to consider
@usuallydopesvsc
@usuallydopesvsc 3 күн бұрын
Plot Twist: Desmond is a "Proto Paul" someone with similar abilities that the Benny couldn't control, eventually they'll kill him, and then their centuries long quest starts to control and manipulate the lines until they create someone with similar powers as Desmond, but that they can control. This would also explain why the benny was so scared of Paul in the first place.
@midsizesedan7620
@midsizesedan7620 3 күн бұрын
Interesting theory
@ZingaroXIV
@ZingaroXIV 3 күн бұрын
Building on that theory, Desmond might open the BG to the concept of the kwisatz haderach. To this point, that term hasn't come up. The BG are looking for conventional paths to power such as putting one of their own sisters on the throne. No mention of a specific breeding program for a super being. Possibly Desmond gives them that idea - and also scares them so deeply that they focus their breeding program on creating a kwisatz haderach that they can control.
@ch_vky148
@ch_vky148 3 күн бұрын
I like your theory. Good catch on that! Bc obviously, we need to know at some point what exactly happened and made BG start this particular program of KH in the first place, the man with full genetic memory of all ancestors. I wish it could be true. This is interesting!)
@ericmatteson8888
@ericmatteson8888 3 күн бұрын
desmond is an AI controlled mentat
@Kirgonix
@Kirgonix 2 күн бұрын
For me Desmond Hart is a Theilaxu Face Dancer
@djfoskey1
@djfoskey1 3 күн бұрын
Ok so episode 2 was better than episode 1 but the sex scene was unnecessary, trying to be like GoT but whatever, episode was decent
@tmac731
@tmac731 3 күн бұрын
Never unnecessary to see some bitties lol
@richcapo4958
@richcapo4958 3 күн бұрын
The sex scenes drive the pervy nerds positive reviews hahaha but really
@Tochi68
@Tochi68 3 күн бұрын
I disagree regarding the sex scene. It's showing Constantine's character, how he's easily played. It also gave some context to the Richese family implying they're rich enough to own multiple planets.
@richcapo4958
@richcapo4958 3 күн бұрын
@ …. Not saying it’s not part of a show at times but reason GOT and other shows get followers is they are creepy
@KingKam93
@KingKam93 3 күн бұрын
Usually in GOT, sex scenes are just visual noise "Look they are fucking yay" but not in every case as in just the first episode when Bran finds Cersei getting doggied by her brother. Whilst in Dune: Prophecy so far, we see the Princess getting her last night of freedom and now in episode 2 we see how the Prince's character flaw comes into play. He was easily manipulated by the sexy daughter of a Great House and divulged sensitive information cause he got some good pums. He will not survive long.
@seldonplanB-24
@seldonplanB-24 3 күн бұрын
My son and I enjoy watching quality shows for "pizza night" and after The Penguin ended I figured we were in for a dry spell, but this seems pretty good so far and Arcane was top notch
@khaelclaudmeiss3397
@khaelclaudmeiss3397 3 күн бұрын
how old is your son? if he's a bit younger, some scenes may not be appropriate for him.
@lizzybennett2590
@lizzybennett2590 3 күн бұрын
"Subscribe now" in your Dune voice was great ... LOL
@gettinoveritgettinoverit1062
@gettinoveritgettinoverit1062 2 күн бұрын
@lizzybennett2590/// 😅 & when he said THEE SPICE 🇬🇧 GIRLS ARE BACK!!! 😉 😜 😘 🧙‍♀️ 🪄 🧹 😂
@byronhorde5892
@byronhorde5892 2 күн бұрын
Sounded a bit like... Arnold.🙂
@toolsdealsautomobiles6980
@toolsdealsautomobiles6980 3 күн бұрын
Ragnar put the poison in the thinking lizard. Classic Ragnar move 😂😂😂
@jedipsy
@jedipsy 3 күн бұрын
Why would you think that? Its shown us, twice now, that Desmond can seemingly activate the burning through concentration. Have you watched these episodes at all?
@WestSideGorilla1980
@WestSideGorilla1980 2 күн бұрын
Yump.
@trol68419
@trol68419 3 күн бұрын
One thing I noticed, during Desmond's interrogation he was very forthcoming in admitting that he had killed the boy. However, when asked about Kasha he used weasel words to imply he did, but he never said "I did" as bluntly as he did about Pruwet. This adds to my theory that a Sister is working with him, or maybe a Facedancer disguised as one of them. My money is on the rebellious acolyte, sorry I forget her name.
@jedipsy
@jedipsy 3 күн бұрын
Good catch!
@ICU1337
@ICU1337 3 күн бұрын
The big white girl? Jen is her name if thats the one you're thinking of.
@wandab3843
@wandab3843 3 күн бұрын
Yep! THIS. Or they are part of the same organization. I think this might be Doratea getting her lick back from beyond the grave.
@trol68419
@trol68419 3 күн бұрын
@@ICU1337 thank you. Although now that I've had more time to think about it, it could also be Sister Theodosia. That would be a curveball from the more obvious Jen.
@BlackDub21
@BlackDub21 3 күн бұрын
Its gotta be the redhead she gives me treacherous vibes
@davidneal9961
@davidneal9961 3 күн бұрын
To me it feels like Desmond has went through a similar poison transmutation process as the Bene. Maybe once he was eaten by the Shai-halud, he was bathed in the water of life with his injured eye giving him the male equivalent of the bene gesserit power. Hence the polar opposite of character traits, lying/honesty, patience/action, indirect/direct. This would also correlate with racellas vision “once born in war, twice born in spice” as well as why there is so much “eye” imagery.
@offlineraided
@offlineraided 3 күн бұрын
Pretty sure he was eaten by the sandworm and the Desmond we have now is a Ghola with Ixian tech in his eye
@davidneal9961
@davidneal9961 2 күн бұрын
@ that’s a very interesting theory
@dhruv9744
@dhruv9744 3 күн бұрын
The guy who plays Kieran Atreides has no screen presence.
@midsizesedan7620
@midsizesedan7620 3 күн бұрын
New actor and new face. I rather that than see another famous actor's face
@Sebascastro27865
@Sebascastro27865 3 күн бұрын
I mean in this show atreides are not the main characters so it’s normal just cast and average actor
@vitaliyred622
@vitaliyred622 3 күн бұрын
@dhruv9744 nobody has unless they are: Valya Harkonnen, Emperor, or Desmond. Nobody else works. This trio is trying to carry the show.
@craigkennedy432
@craigkennedy432 3 күн бұрын
@@Sebascastro27865 I love that point!
@wesleyorlowski189
@wesleyorlowski189 3 күн бұрын
Same with the emperor's kids - some horrible casting in my opinion. They look like they belong in a Divergent teen movie, not Dune lol
@MaraJadeSkky
@MaraJadeSkky 3 күн бұрын
I laugh every single time you make the Warn A Brother joke, Paul.
@scpatl4now
@scpatl4now 3 күн бұрын
I noticed that when Desmond does the burning thing it seems to be painful to him. He looks almost drained
@KingKam93
@KingKam93 3 күн бұрын
I suspect based on the fact that he is usually close to the target that there is someone in the Bene Gesserit with that very gift that killed the woman. Or maybe I missed something.
@mattcarrier2766
@mattcarrier2766 3 күн бұрын
Noticed it too. Maybe drains him?
@Daniel-ll2cl
@Daniel-ll2cl 3 күн бұрын
Its braining his thinking machine battery. I reckon he’s not human
@timothylangston3560
@timothylangston3560 3 күн бұрын
He does a thing with his finger to his temple that has an mechanical look.
@MrTheHeadlines
@MrTheHeadlines 3 күн бұрын
I’m so happy they made this show honestly like gettin the back store on the reverend mothers even hearing about Paul 10 thousand years before he’s born is crazy this show is great and I think the mothers see the trrue power that comes from arrakis and also here about Paul and decide to try to make what he becomes for the next 10k years 😂 but I hope we get a season 2 I know it’s only 2 episodes in but I’m excited for the next season already 😂
@PresidentProductions
@PresidentProductions 3 күн бұрын
I dont think arafel is Paul i think Arafel is Leto the second who is Paul's future son. The Human Worm God Emperor.
@Lordamraphel
@Lordamraphel 3 күн бұрын
@@PresidentProductions What? Paul's son is a worm? Lol sorry that sounds silly, I thought the Dune universe was more grounded than Star Wars lol. 😂
@j1ful
@j1ful 3 күн бұрын
@@Lordamraphelnot born a worm, he basically creates himself into a worm I think them worms are seen as godly or something in the dune universe.
@PresidentProductions
@PresidentProductions 3 күн бұрын
@@Lordamraphel lol i know it sounds silly but its actually fantastic the next movie dune messiah will set the tone for you buddy.
@wordsworthstone
@wordsworthstone 3 күн бұрын
the voice is a fairly new tool of the BG at that point in time, i highly doubt it's even been shared within the sisterhood, let alone, someone trained to resist it already.
@j1ful
@j1ful 3 күн бұрын
His more likely a thinking machine
@Daniel-ll2cl
@Daniel-ll2cl 3 күн бұрын
@@j1ful i think he actually is. Lol lets come back to this comment when the shows finished
@midsizesedan7620
@midsizesedan7620 3 күн бұрын
If that's the twist, it'll be the biggest letdown.This little Desmond mystery is what's keeping the show together for me
@calculatedrisk1
@calculatedrisk1 3 күн бұрын
That” subscribe now” was hilarious…
@Brook11223
@Brook11223 3 күн бұрын
This episode literally setup the battle that is yet to come. Tula Harkonnen has no idea what her elder sister did. I think Tula is going to find out the truth about what her elder sister Valya did. Desmond now pulling the strings behind the scenes for the imperium.
@protalghulnist4126
@protalghulnist4126 3 күн бұрын
What did you think Tula meant when she said “Her life isn’t the only one in danger” and then went on to name all the conspirators in the “coup?”
@PresidentProductions
@PresidentProductions 3 күн бұрын
She knows what Valya did she was concerned about the "Secret" being discovered.
@ForeverBrooklynNYC
@ForeverBrooklynNYC 3 күн бұрын
Tula already knew what Vyla did and told Vyla that Lila would potentially find out -- but Vyla says she'll take that risk.
@Brook11223
@Brook11223 3 күн бұрын
@@protalghulnist4126 She is aware Valya is responsible.
@rinehardt6837
@rinehardt6837 3 күн бұрын
I am honestly blown away by these first two episodes I just reread Dune Messiah a few months ago after years. This show feels so much like Dune to me and the part where Lila goes in and for the first time we get to see the memories being awakened that was awesome. And she got to meet her grandmother so we know Lila's mother is still alive somewhere. The character of Desmond is awesome that guy brings it in every single. He is so damn creepy.
@rickbase833
@rickbase833 3 күн бұрын
As a long-time fan of the Frank Herbert novels , I really like this show. I don't think there is a pacing issue outside of the club and sex scenes, which I simply fast forwarded through. I'm a sucker for good dialogue and intrigue.....and this show provides those well. Any fan of the books knows that Desmond is a wild card and is something we haven't seen before. Hope his arc pays off. One minor nit......the Emporer is written as a somewhat weak character, but that may be be the point of the sisterhood in trying to control him.
@midsizesedan7620
@midsizesedan7620 3 күн бұрын
With Desmond as their personal political weapon. I'm assuming they'll shift that narrative
@percyweasley9301
@percyweasley9301 2 күн бұрын
What with people not liking sex scenes? Why so distaste towards sex?
@rickbase833
@rickbase833 2 күн бұрын
@percyweasley9301 Not a distaste towards sex.....just softcore sex in movies or TV that wastes time. Did we need to have the scene in episode 2 that starts out standing then segways to a long shot of the dude pile driving the girl? No.
@yoboyrob201
@yoboyrob201 3 күн бұрын
To me, it feels just like the movies, just obviously a different story. I don’t know why everybody has mixed feelings on it. Everybody seems to love the movie, this is the same universe with the same kind of story telling and structure. Everyone should be loving it. I like it a lot
@BlackDub21
@BlackDub21 3 күн бұрын
Its the new trend gotta be butt hurt about something.
@TheGuigotz
@TheGuigotz 3 күн бұрын
I love it as well
@Cjass814
@Cjass814 3 күн бұрын
To me it feels nothing like the movies
@nullakjg767
@nullakjg767 3 күн бұрын
its the long time dune fans who seem to prefer the movies to the show. as someone who isnt into dune, i didnt watch the second part for years because i found part 1 so boring. the show is much more engaging and interesting to me.
@DvGnaps707
@DvGnaps707 3 күн бұрын
It looks like an HBO show but feels like an FX show. The acting is pretty bad, especially the princess. Sheesh she is bad
@sogggy
@sogggy 3 күн бұрын
The biggest question of the episode is 'how does Desmond Hart go to the bathroom while suspended?"
@nanaacquahful4838
@nanaacquahful4838 3 күн бұрын
Lmaoo
@ForeverBrooklynNYC
@ForeverBrooklynNYC 3 күн бұрын
I had the exact same question LOL
@billyfarmerii1669
@billyfarmerii1669 3 күн бұрын
Diapers 😂
@midsizesedan7620
@midsizesedan7620 3 күн бұрын
He's brought down, takes a break, and is suspended again
@SK4Madhi_Freal
@SK4Madhi_Freal 3 күн бұрын
Stillsuit under his garms.😂
@paulgodden8712
@paulgodden8712 22 сағат бұрын
It’s funny, there are several breakdowns from different people, but the only one I look for is my boy Paul! 🇬🇧
@javierdelacruz9712
@javierdelacruz9712 3 күн бұрын
The “path too short” could also apply to Paul declining to finish the Golden Path and abandon his destiny, making his son Leto II having to take the mantle of the true Kwisatz Haderach and finish the Golden Path.
@RyanHaney55
@RyanHaney55 3 күн бұрын
I've been waiting to see if they gave Dune the full HBO treatment before hitting the share button and sending it to my mom. Well... at least they jiggled. I did watch that scene twice. I couldn't understand the dialog in the night club because of the music. I am looking forward to seeing where this show is going.
@lannyfuller8367
@lannyfuller8367 3 күн бұрын
The blue eyes are also the same shade of blue as the toy lizard's eyes. And it makes a somewhat mechanical sound in the vision. Just food for thought...
@robstone1755
@robstone1755 3 күн бұрын
Love that this is ready to go right after the episode ! Spice girls Ride my worm Haha classic
@jeffhidalgo6037
@jeffhidalgo6037 3 күн бұрын
Right on time! Thanks Paul!
@mattyboyb523
@mattyboyb523 3 күн бұрын
I continue to be baffled with the in general lack of enthusiasm for this show. Clearly there’s some shortcomings with the show and I truly think that’s the result of switching gears and of course the impact of the strikes has had an effect. I think they’ve done a great job with all of that being considered and with only 6 episodes I believe they’re going to set up a 2nd season and possibly a 3rd if there’s enough interest and good reviews
@percyweasley9301
@percyweasley9301 2 күн бұрын
IT only JUST Started. Have patience.
@anthonyhowrard526
@anthonyhowrard526 2 күн бұрын
I`m just bored to death. but that is just me.
@mattyboyb523
@mattyboyb523 2 күн бұрын
@ Wow!! No kidding ? That’s a shame. I guess when it comes to IP like Dune or LOTR, etc…. The hard core fans of the source material have a very high standard to appeal to when it comes to movie &/or streaming adaptations. I don’t have that as I’m lucky to be able to read trough half a magazine or newspaper
@ApokalipsKilldren
@ApokalipsKilldren 3 күн бұрын
Desmond Hart got powers from swallowing the necromancer’s eyes.
@Jagadishhebbar
@Jagadishhebbar 20 сағат бұрын
RAISED BY THE WOLVES I see😂
@MrBritt216
@MrBritt216 3 күн бұрын
Dang it..Your voice is strong I subscribed to this channel 🫠
@d2beej
@d2beej 3 күн бұрын
I feel like they should have released this with episode 1
@Jimmy-o2g3m
@Jimmy-o2g3m 3 күн бұрын
This would have been the ideal thing to do given how awesome this episode was!
@darwinian7974
@darwinian7974 2 күн бұрын
ahhahaha love your work bro. hahahahah Mattel hahahaha
@r.r9999
@r.r9999 3 күн бұрын
The only strange is the 10000 year timeline it seams that Dune will start in 200 years not 10000
@Jernstedt43
@Jernstedt43 3 күн бұрын
Desmond is an ixian creation
@ethancoster1324
@ethancoster1324 3 күн бұрын
A Ghola?
@Jernstedt43
@Jernstedt43 3 күн бұрын
@ that’s what I’m thinking
@finnbreuning93
@finnbreuning93 23 сағат бұрын
I thought Gholas were a Tleilaxu thing or am i wrong?
@SK4Madhi_Freal
@SK4Madhi_Freal Күн бұрын
@4:15 Thats why Feyd was buzzing he has Shishakli's knife before he burnt her, The Harkonnens put huge reward for one and they finally got one.🤩🗡🤩 Also I noticed thier shields are more like Dune84 on the waist and look similar not on the wrist like the movies.
@WhosNathaniel
@WhosNathaniel 2 күн бұрын
I'm liking the series as a person who has only ever seen the two movies and not known anything about the Dune universe before hand. Also I'll watch anything with Travis Fimmel, what a legend!
@esmannr
@esmannr Күн бұрын
There's at least one plot hole. The embodiment of Dorotea in Lila's mind would not have memories of being killed by Valya. The only genetic memory passed on would be from conception. Obviously Lila was not conceived after Dorotea's death.
@SK4Madhi_Freal
@SK4Madhi_Freal Күн бұрын
Doroteas Lilas Grandmother!! When she stabs herself by Valya voice she had already had Lilas Mum. I think if ive got it right 🤔
@TheLastZeekasaur
@TheLastZeekasaur 3 күн бұрын
Well my first guess was wrong, but that's the fun if guessing while watching. My new guess, hart is some kind of new weapon made by the guild. They seem like the ones that might make some kind of bio organ they implanted into Hart to use against the bene they never liked. I hope the blue eyes are Paul's so they can that classic line in the 84 version. " Look where you fear to see, you will see me looking back back you." In the third Dune.
@MrAjCalderon
@MrAjCalderon 3 күн бұрын
I like the show but I think they are being a little heavy handed in making sure people that haven’t read the books or seen the movie can follow it. I hope now that they’ve gotten a lot of exposition dumps out it’ll pick up in pace from here on
@Hobodeluxe007
@Hobodeluxe007 3 күн бұрын
I wonder why Desmond just didn't kill her since she'd just tried to kill him. Seems like a no-brainer to me unless he has plans to use her later.
@ForeverBrooklynNYC
@ForeverBrooklynNYC 3 күн бұрын
Desmond claims to serve the Imperium -- having the BG's Mother Superior die under similar circumstances as Pruwet while a guest of the Emperor is unlikely to be a good thing for the Emperor's standing with the other Great Houses.
@Hobodeluxe007
@Hobodeluxe007 3 күн бұрын
@@ForeverBrooklynNYC Yes but now he has a weapon that can supposedly reach out and touch anyone, anywhere. And Desmond has Valya shook with his ability to resist the voice. If he can do that he can lie and get away with it.
@jamesvitale7474
@jamesvitale7474 2 күн бұрын
Why kill her? He just dominated her and caused her worst fears and dreams to come true. There is nothing like a panicked enemy to make mistakes and facilitate your plans. The last thing this guy wants is some other woman who he hasn't subjugated to take stable leadership and start acting effectively. Valya is so threatened, she may expose herself and her organization in her desperation to remove him from the board. Just like she exposed her power of voice, something that is supposed to be a deeply held secret. Usually if you hear it, that's your ass. Can you imagine how discredited BG would be if it was common knowledge that they could completely control someone? His attack in NOT killing her damages her far more than merely killing here, which would also have undesirable consequences for the Emperor and the political situation. Sun Tzu: All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable.
@JC_973
@JC_973 3 күн бұрын
Horace be like.. you hear about a tray a' deez? TRAY A DEEZ NUTS
@pelicanhill3251
@pelicanhill3251 2 күн бұрын
It's not bad, and this episode was much better than the first. I think you are right, it's going to be compared to Penguin since it just aired on Max as well and that was far superior. But this show is doing a lot of things right. It's taken 2 somewhat messy episodes to set everything up, but it's exciting to see where it goes.
@AndrewsArachnids
@AndrewsArachnids 3 күн бұрын
that WB "warn-a-brotha" shirts are so fucken 90's i cant even breathe. I literally had one that said "if you see da police. Warna Brotha!" and i wore that shit when i was like 10. man i miss the 90's
@user_unav
@user_unav 3 күн бұрын
It will always remind me of Mac miller 🥲 he used to wear that shirt too
@SK4Madhi_Freal
@SK4Madhi_Freal Күн бұрын
Ive still got one.
@FABRIZZLE
@FABRIZZLE 3 күн бұрын
My question is…. If Lila’s mother was not in the “spirit realm”.. Is she alive? And why are they hiding that?
@ewarrior9776
@ewarrior9776 Күн бұрын
Lila's grandmother attacked her. I think that Lila was lied to and her mother isn't really dead.
@JROTCBALL
@JROTCBALL 2 күн бұрын
E1 really hooked me! Loved that we got to see a bit of the Machine war and that scene with the Sister using the voice for the first time was chef kiss.. and then that finale had me yelling WTF?! Haha definitely looking forward to the weeks ahead and sure as hell not sure as to why this and the penguin for a 5/10 from ign
@jackspratt624
@jackspratt624 2 күн бұрын
For those of you who are confused by the fact that actor Travis Fimmel appears to be playing the exact same role that he did in HBO's "Raised by Wolves" short-lived SF series, here's my theory. In "Raised by Wolves", Travis played Marcus/Caleb, a soldier with Tourette-like facial tics, a penchant for levitating and mystical powers courtesy of giant flying lizards which burrow through the planet Kepler 22B. In "Dune Prophecy", Travis plays Desmond Hart, a soldier with Tourette-like facial tics, a penchant for levitating and mystical powers courtesy of giant sandworms which burrow through the planet Arrakis. It is painfully obvious that Marcus/Caleb and Desmond Hart changed places when falling into a hole that connected Kepler 22B and Arrakis and then basically switched identities, which is in keeping with the sleazy nature of the character. Even the name of Dune Prophecy's second episode is..."Two Wolves."
@catdean828
@catdean828 3 күн бұрын
The "eyes" that you keep referring to look more like the mouth of a worm, but that is just me. Spot on. Love the video.
@GreenEyedGumby
@GreenEyedGumby 3 күн бұрын
I hope it’s a reference to Leto II
@jamesvitale7474
@jamesvitale7474 2 күн бұрын
@@GreenEyedGumby I don't think it is for three reasons: 1. The characteristics that Raquella mentions in this episode really seem to fit Paul or someone else but not Leto II. 2. Since Denis put Dune on the map again, none of those new fans necessarily knows who Leto II is. Even among fans of the original books, lots never got past book 1 or 2. This issue is not an easter egg for the die-hards, it's central plot. "Tyrant" seems like an obvious referent to Leto II, but I think it applies equally well to Paul. He takes the throne, the guild, all the spice, and his Fremen legions purify whoever disagrees. I know Leto II upstages him, but still. 3. However, now I'm beginning to speculate that everyone's got this wrong. Maybe they're not talking about far off events 10,000 years down the line. I think the reckoning they're talking about may be in the current time frame and something we'll see. What causes me to speculate on this is her description of "A revenant full of scars. A weapon born of war ..." Revenant full of scars is just not the best description for Paul Atreides. It fits Demond pretty spot on though. Also, I could argue it either way that Paul was "born of war." He was born during peacetime and he was 15 years old in the books. He had seen nothing of war up until when Arrakis was attacked. Desmond, on the other hand, has been through 10 (?) tours of combat on Arrakis. On the other hand, Paul was trained for combat since he was a three-celled embryo, so...
@GreenEyedGumby
@GreenEyedGumby Күн бұрын
@@jamesvitale7474 Excellent points! Thanks for the detailed response.
@jamesvitale7474
@jamesvitale7474 23 сағат бұрын
@@GreenEyedGumby You're welcome. Having thought on this further, "a weapon born of war" could fit Paul or Desmond pretty well. This could be saying that by waging war on Arrakis, the Harkonnens and Emperor forced Paul to be reborn as a weapon-something he intensely did not want to do. It was the best of bad options. However, I still lean towards thinking it applies to the current timeline and Desmond. I make no final conclusions though!
@GreenEyedGumby
@GreenEyedGumby 16 сағат бұрын
@ I look forward to finding out!
@josapienza5
@josapienza5 3 күн бұрын
Fimmel is electric...I don't even care if he's evil...he's dialed to 11 and am here for it. Can't stand the princess sorry...the princesses in general so far are vile...don't care for them....buf i'm enjoying this...even if the nightclub scenes pull me out of world (very 90's industrial)
@himoragenma6416
@himoragenma6416 3 күн бұрын
He's basically Marcus from Raised by Wolves, guess THIS is why they cancelled it!!!😬😬😬😬
@josapienza5
@josapienza5 3 күн бұрын
@@himoragenma6416 I have a profound Fimmel bias o be fair
@timothylangston3560
@timothylangston3560 3 күн бұрын
I don't see Desmond as a bad guy. The BG are pretty bad.
@josapienza5
@josapienza5 2 күн бұрын
@@timothylangston3560 got to agree...!
@originalcosmicgirl
@originalcosmicgirl 3 күн бұрын
Totally geeking out that you used Mass Effect clips in this video!! As I always say- all things lead to Mass Effect. Apparently, even Dune. It's all connected!😄💖💖💖
@JusMercury
@JusMercury 2 күн бұрын
I subscribed 😂
@guarism0
@guarism0 3 күн бұрын
The only thing that is keeping me watching is waiting for the Demond Hart mystery, and just because his power is something I haven't seen in Dune before.
@AbbySulcata
@AbbySulcata 3 күн бұрын
I never tire of the confused math lady insert.
@haleybeuthel_lotr
@haleybeuthel_lotr 3 күн бұрын
Great dive into the episode! Keep doing these!!!!
@LowTide941
@LowTide941 3 күн бұрын
lol I like the Ethan and Olivia clip. Well done
@davidc5191
@davidc5191 Күн бұрын
Have you also noticed acolyte Jen has a strong family resemblance to Tula - maybe her secret mother?
@aaronbrutus2654
@aaronbrutus2654 3 күн бұрын
I haven't read any of the books so I'm mildly confused. I just have common sense, so I understand some things. So, I'm assuming Tulia had no idea what her sister did otherwise she wouldnt have sent her protege in there. Which would make Valya truly evil in my opinion. I don't trust Desmond at all, BUT everything he thinks and says about the sisterhood is spot on.
@levig8214
@levig8214 3 күн бұрын
She does know. That’s why she said what she said to her sister when they were discussing Lyla taking the poison.
@PresidentProductions
@PresidentProductions 3 күн бұрын
Listen Tula knew because she was concerned about the protege discovering the "Secrets" from her unknown dead mother during the Poison Ritual.
@aaronbrutus2654
@aaronbrutus2654 3 күн бұрын
@@PresidentProductions Ah! That's right, I remember that conversation. So that makes how Desmond feels even more accurate. The sisterhood is out of control.
@PresidentProductions
@PresidentProductions 3 күн бұрын
@@aaronbrutus2654 Correct but in the Dune Universe the theme of good needing necessary evil is consistent. Great show so far in my opinion hope it ramps up as the plot thickens.
@RobertBarry1969
@RobertBarry1969 2 күн бұрын
Liked the video, one small complaint: You call the Bene Gesserit “the Bennie” but this bugs me and doesn’t differentiate them from the Bene Tleilax which might pop up in dune part 3 as I recall that is where we first meet the face dancers. Anyway, small thing but it doesn’t seem that much harder just to say Bene Gesserit. While this is a geeky complaint, at least I’m helping your algorithm by interacting in the chat, right?
@CptTrips
@CptTrips Күн бұрын
For me it belittles the Bene Gesserit, I'm well aware "Bennie" is tongue in cheek but it does bug me when it's used so often. The Bene Gesserit are terrifying, they've been made this way due to sexist politics - something which is very well addressed in the Dune universe, kinda, as much as a male author from the '60's can do anyway, but thats a whole different issue. Obviously they are evil but all factions in the power struggle are, no-one comes out clean in this universe, everyone is morally grey - which is why it works so well. I dunno, I'm a girl, I stan the evil witches.
@Jensen-C
@Jensen-C Күн бұрын
Wow. Nice that episode 2 seems to be alot better than episode 1. But I’m worried they are watering down the power and stature of the Bene Gesserit, they are supposed to be fearless, keniving,and strong. Too many of the bene are emotional, fearful, and acting like a CW anxty teen. Idk
@jamesvitale7474
@jamesvitale7474 23 сағат бұрын
Keep in mind that at this point, the Bene Gesserit are still getting established. They are a little more fragile than in the movie world. Voice is new and not every sister has that ability. All the Bene Gesserit you're used to seeing in the movies and Frank's books have the supreme confidence of knowing that they can absolutely control almost any threat with voice, and that this would usually be a surprise to the target (since they are extremely circumspect about who they let know, although we've already been outed in the show). In the current show, a lot of them don't have this capability yet. Their training techniques haven't been refined and perfected for 10000 years like in the movies. Also, a lot of who we're seeing are Acolytes and sisters who are not Reverend Mothers.
@warpdriveby
@warpdriveby 3 күн бұрын
You were right the game's name IS pronounced as if spelled "Key-Ops". Herbert used the ancient Greek bastardization of the name of the Pharoh, Kufu! The Great Pyramid, probably the most famous tomb in history, was built by and for him (him being Kufu/Cheops). I should say there may well be a pronunciation of Cheops in other languages that does use the softer "ess" voicing of "Ch" but in all of my Archaeology/antiquity and history classes in college it was Key-ops.
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 2 күн бұрын
Dorothea is her granmother. She even said "Grandaughter" when she grabs Lila.
@MaraJadeSkky
@MaraJadeSkky 3 күн бұрын
Heavy Spoilers is my favorite channel to watch when I can't sleep..like I am right meow!
@robbolowth8388
@robbolowth8388 3 күн бұрын
I like watching the episodes then coming here for the breakdowns,
@P-M-869
@P-M-869 2 күн бұрын
I did notice the diamond on her forehead. I wonder if Desmond can use the Spice that people have taken to kill them. He did receive a gift from the Sand Worm.
@ericpowell4350
@ericpowell4350 3 күн бұрын
They only have six episodes this season. Dune is too complex and dense for such a short number of episodes per season.
@aitibi06
@aitibi06 8 сағат бұрын
Omg this "Spice Girls are back" killed me
@kazetoame
@kazetoame 2 күн бұрын
Dorothea cannot be the mother because Lila looks to be between 15-18 years old and Dorothea died 30 years ago. Not to mention, Dorothea called her granddaughter. It probably just means that Lila’s mother is still alive.
@ispbrotherwolf
@ispbrotherwolf 3 күн бұрын
Don´t wanna nick pick, Highliners is not a Warp gate. Every ship dock in the Highliner and the Highliner takes them to the next planet on their route. Guild Navigators look for a safe path.
@shoguevara
@shoguevara 3 күн бұрын
I don't know exactly why, but in spite of pretty good acting, younger cast makes me cringe hard. I guess that might be a result of the creators tailoring for wider audience. But the story and power struggle is friggin captivating. What should I do? :D
@youngveteran6368
@youngveteran6368 3 күн бұрын
The acolytes and the emperor daughter and son actors all suck
@robtothejuice
@robtothejuice 3 күн бұрын
@@youngveteran6368 ya know I actually don’t think the son is too bad. Like he has potential with the expressions he has and annoys me in the way in his character should lol.
@OMGDDAAVVIIDD
@OMGDDAAVVIIDD 20 сағат бұрын
Yeah I definitely like the intrigue surrounding Valya and Desmond, that’s what is really driving the show for me at the moment. I don’t really like the “rich” family dynamic we are getting. Like the rich kids doing coke and going clubbing… aren’t we in the year 10,000 AD, and that’s still a thing?
@ethanseymour994
@ethanseymour994 2 күн бұрын
The only way that will fix doratea's memory of her death, is making it that lila is a clone/ghola born through a surrogate. Or the ixians
@jeffjuin4257
@jeffjuin4257 20 сағат бұрын
I was looking to see if u broke down silo, on apple TV. Just got into it.
@DangerousTalk
@DangerousTalk 2 күн бұрын
I'm just amazed that in 10,000 years technology, culture, fashion, and politics hadn't changed at all.
@jamesvitale7474
@jamesvitale7474 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, this is my thing too. I had the idea that we might see someone discover "voice" and how the BG got founded. But as our channel host said, a lot of that ground may have been already covered in Sisterhood of Dune and I think these guys didn't want to do a book adaptation, but explore some new territory, so they aren't doing that kind of origin story. Still, as your comment notes, an awful lot that we've seen is already very close to the form we encounter it in the movies 10,000 years later. However, one way to work towards the plausibility of this is to have an interpretation that the BG are trying to breed great rulers because they are primarily interested in a stable society (Valya's little revenge obsession against the Atreides aside). Also, from the time the thinking machines were destroyed, this is a universe where the government has outlawed a great deal of technological advancement and if you make something that even merely LOOKS like a thinking machine, your planet can be bombed into eradication. This would have a marked effect on people's motivation to invent or innovate. I think they made some minor changes (for example in the fashion... the costumes are not exactly the same as movie dune) which gives some breathing room for change over those 10,000 years. You might say, "Look at how much has changed in the world in the past 100 years," but a great deal of that has been driven by more and more complex computer technology which is outlawed in Duneverse. It may not be obvious to us what a handicap that it is to the pace of change that we've become accustomed to.
@rtruth9832
@rtruth9832 2 күн бұрын
I had mixed feeling about the first episode but thought the ending was good this episode was better and I’m excited to see the next episode. Am I wrong for rooting for Desmond ??😂
@TJTURTLE
@TJTURTLE 3 күн бұрын
that Spice Girls shirt sent me!! Just picked one up for my next Dune watch party :)
@d3ricc
@d3ricc 3 күн бұрын
“The Spice Girls are back” lmfao I am deceased
@Jon6429
@Jon6429 2 күн бұрын
Remember the books contain many hints that the worms are not native to Arrakis
@justinbreedlove8835
@justinbreedlove8835 Күн бұрын
I'm a huge lover of DUNE I honestly thought I would hate the series but honestly it's ok I like the long episodes but can't stand 6 episodes only for any series
@theshinobiway9495
@theshinobiway9495 17 сағат бұрын
i love what they are doing we all need to also take a step back and look that they are trying to build a dune world that no one else has really tried todo i think if they keep it up and build a fully flushed out world that they can over throw star wars in the sci fi fantasy genre
@SpruntForever
@SpruntForever 2 күн бұрын
I'm going with he's a face dancer and the burning is some kind of poison instead of a spice force
@rhyspiercy4407
@rhyspiercy4407 3 күн бұрын
Horus committing heresy against the imperium...where have I heard that before
@warpdriveby
@warpdriveby 3 күн бұрын
...didn't the acolyte who underwebt the proto-agony DIE? Also, it's a technicality but the BG hand talk isn't really called a "battle language" in Frank Herbert's books, although several characters make the same, and correct association you do. I'm not pointing it out because you're a tiny bit off, it's for the new readers trying to digest and understand a massive fantasy realm, equally as layered and steeped in it's history as Tolkien's LotR.
@levig8214
@levig8214 3 күн бұрын
In the preview scenes for upcoming episodes it shows her not quite dead. They even say something like “she’s as close to death as one can be.” Something like that only saw it once.
@SK4Madhi_Freal
@SK4Madhi_Freal 3 күн бұрын
Wasnt Battle language an Atreides invention??
@warpdriveby
@warpdriveby 3 күн бұрын
@SK4Madhi_Freal No, the Harkonnens, Corinnos/sardaukar, and other's are noted as having their own as well. It's idenfied as a very OLD security measure brought forward from the actual historical stone age hunter-gatherers. "Chakobsa" the hunting language Herbert referrs to frequently seems to be the most direct source.
@SK4Madhi_Freal
@SK4Madhi_Freal 2 күн бұрын
@warpdriveby I knew they all had hand signals but I thought it was just Atreides who called it battle language but yeah they all use it
@warpdriveby
@warpdriveby 2 күн бұрын
@SK4Madhi_Freal To be fair, the way I remember reading it, every time it's brought up it's from the Atredies perspective, so we can very easily say either of our statements is correct (as long as it's known that essentially every faction with an formal military arm uses a form of verbal code/battle language. Given that there are thousands of languages in Dune, growing to at least millions if not trillions by Chapterhouse because of the scattering.
@SheSaidWhat1101
@SheSaidWhat1101 3 күн бұрын
Did you really open with, “come with me and ride my worm.” ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@DOSBoxMom
@DOSBoxMom Күн бұрын
Another reviewer (Secrets of Dune) opined that that one gal was in a coma, and was in danger of waking up possessed.
@jillg9108
@jillg9108 3 күн бұрын
I have not read the books. Episode 1 dropped a lot. Viewers can need some repetition to understand what is going on. I did believe Tula had a special relationship with Lila which the show established in two episodes which shows great writing and acting.
@jakemeyer8188
@jakemeyer8188 2 күн бұрын
I'm quite nervous about Desmond being some kind of super powered villain. The Duniverse is all about taking human abilities to the extreme, not magic. There's always some basis in reality; even the Bene Gesserit speaking to their dead ancestors has its basis in the idea of genetic memories. Frank Herbert was adamant about pointing out that every "super power" in Dune was NOT magic. Making people combust from the inside out is treading dangerous lore-breaking territory. My other concern is that a worm apparently gave him this power? That goes against everything Herbert laid down. It's not the Star Wars universe where you can just make up new magical "force powers". I'm obviously going to watch the entire season before I make any final judgments, but....I still have concerns.
@TimmyneutronHBCG
@TimmyneutronHBCG 2 күн бұрын
All art is based in some reality its SCIENCE FICTION for a reason🤦🏾‍♂️
@jakemeyer8188
@jakemeyer8188 2 күн бұрын
@@TimmyneutronHBCG Of course it's science FICTION, but you're missing the point. Every piece of good science fiction (like Dune) sets up the rules of its universe and then doesn't break them. It's why you don't have people flying around like Superman in Dune...it's against the rules. Desmond being able to light people on fire MIGHT be breaking the rules. I'll wait until the end to be sure, but there's nothing to suggest in any of the Dune books that people could gain superpowers from being eaten by a worm.
@khalilfuller4939
@khalilfuller4939 3 күн бұрын
I think the best theory about him is that he is in a way linked to the great emperor from the future
@바보Queen
@바보Queen 3 күн бұрын
if the bene gesserit are supposed to seduce men of power... why are all the bene in the show so ugly
@KingKam93
@KingKam93 3 күн бұрын
ouch
@offlineraided
@offlineraided 3 күн бұрын
Based, that's why the Honored Matres were best girls
@robtothejuice
@robtothejuice 3 күн бұрын
Could be a guess but maybe that’s a skill they learn to use later and choose to breed them better looking and more beautiful. Hence later on thousands years later with the lady jessica, princess irulan, and lady Fenring’s in comparison lol.
@stevebither1797
@stevebither1797 3 күн бұрын
This show is a banger so far imo
@andreamalerba4153
@andreamalerba4153 3 күн бұрын
There is only one Tyrant and that is the God Emperor, but I agree, I would they will portray him in this series or ever sadly.
@ericmatteson8888
@ericmatteson8888 3 күн бұрын
she shouldnt have any other memory of her mother's (or grandmother's) death. .. that happened after her own birth and wasnt part of her mothers memories at that point.
@corndogydog01
@corndogydog01 3 күн бұрын
Where is the break down for the end of arcane?! I need it now!!!!!!
@beesleep23
@beesleep23 3 күн бұрын
seems like there is an issue with 'scale'? this doesn't seem like a empire of 47 quadzillion or whatever. the emperors throne is in a city of like 15,000 people or something. places are seeming sparse.
@jamesvitale7474
@jamesvitale7474 Күн бұрын
Keep in mind that in the timeframe of this story (10,000 years before the Dune movies), human beings just spent 1000 years being hunted, slaughtered, and oppressed by thinking machines. The thinking machines controlled entire tracts of the universe, and while they did use humans as slaves, for the most part, they exterminated them. Imagine if our planetary population was reduced by 90%. We're 30 years in the timeline after the Battle of Corrin. You don't recover from that in that time frame. This kind of unsentimental ruthless and efficient nature of the machines is why there was such a strong reaction to Duke Richese's son having a thinking machine... In this universe, if you mess with computer technology that is outlawed, you don't get fined or reprimanded. Your house is ended. The thinking machines came within a hair's breadth of wiping out the human race, and no-one is predisposed to take it lightly. That's why 10,000 years later, still no AI in Dune.
@JacquelynGalante
@JacquelynGalante 3 күн бұрын
Great analysis, thank you! Just a quick off-topic question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?
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