Dune - Strategy Meeting

Strategy Meeting

[@romilrh]

Fun fact: the guy who says "attention!" at 0:14 is the Atriedes that Feyd fights in the arena in Part 2. He's also the fight coordinator for both films, and he's awesome. Roger Yuan

[@joshuazarate9780]

Nice catch

[@KoiYakultGreenTea]

He's got a killer 80s stache

[@StefanBlagojevic]

@rmilrh Well done, Lieutenant Lanville!

[@AnthonyJMurph]

Nice fact!

[@mahtism]

Also the bad guy in Shanghai Noon

[@andregordon2599]

I actually appreciate the little pat on the back Leto gives Paul as he sits down. he knows this is probably kinda intimidating for Paul and he is quietly giving him his support, and the seat ride by his side.

[@flybeep1661]

Relax dude, don't over analyze we've got enough of that in the YT comments. It's just a pat on the back in jest and nothing more. All these comments people doing some psycho analysis trying the make a simple gesture be deeply meaningful as if film makers deeply thought about affirming relations and motivations between characters and their actions while mostly in reality it's probably just an improv gesture by the actor in the moment and nothing more.

[@coolguyjki]

@@flybeep1661 Lmao a movie this heavily scripted and edited doesn't have a lot of empty space or unnecessary shots. Leto putting his hand on Paul's back is almost certainly scripted and deliberate as it wasn't left on the cutting room floor.

[@williammccormick984]

It also doubles as a "I'm glad you're here, son" with just a pat on the shoulder. This whole movie is so rich in detail.

[@TheNinjaMarmot]

Probably a hint to Paul, saying shut boy. Just listen. So they know you're not stupid.

[@almerosepwanzaky6342]

​@@flybeep1661 brother, every aspect a movie is shot for a meaning. Even as an improvisation, it holds meaning. There isn't anything that is accidental and even if there is, they would rather redo the scene

[@vseegobi]

At this moment, it’s painful clear to all that the Emperor sided with the Harkonnens against the House Atreides. No monarch would allow a critical resource for their civilization to be sabotaged like that unless they stood to benefit from it.

[@Vaprous]

Ironically, per the books, this would be the downfall of the reigning Emperor ultimately. This is somewhat covered in the original Dune films also. This sort of move basically pisses every major power player outside the imperial court. Its actually kind of funny.

[@andreproudian7032]

I assume the only reason the Atredies didn't report it to the wider imperium is because to do so would unite all the great houses against the emperor. Which sounds great at first glance until a massive civil war starts and billions die and many worlds are destroyed.

[@AuroraAustralis_]

The funny thing is the emperor did this to weaken the Harkonnens too. Atreides was wiped out, sure, but once they got Arrakis back, we find that the Harkonnens practically bankrupted themselves to mobilize their forces.

[@BigMikeMcBastard]

@@andreproudian7032 He didn't have decisive proof. All the Atreides had was circumstantial evidence until the Sardaukar attacked alongside the Harkonnen, but by then Yueh had shut down comms and so they had no capacity to get the word out.

[@gabe9125]

Everybody knew that this was a move meant to put the Atreides on the back foot, give them too much of a load to bear, and put a target on their back, all at once. The first hour of this movie is everybody telling Paul right after another that they're walking into a trap. What they don't know is that the Emperor hasn't just thrown them into the fire, but has ACTIVELY sided with the Harkonnen against them by bolstering their troops with Sardaukar and coordinating an overwhelming military strike to eliminate the entire house in a single night.

[@stefanlvkc7986]

I didn't notice at first the look of shame on Thufir's face. I feel bad for him.

[@aritraroy6592]

it never even occurred to me that the hunter-seeker incident is still haunting the man.

[@tails359]

0:09 The side eye Thufirs companion gives him...

[@stefanlvkc7986]

@@tails359 IKR. I wouldn't want to be near a master of assassins when he's in a bad mood.

[@andrew123456ish]

@@tails359 0:10 and this moron's happiness "GottA kEEp an EyE on YOU"

[@whyiaskyou]

His subordinates are loyal enough to share the shame, rather than turning on Thufir and being part of the group. They're also sensible enough not to object, 'cause they know they fu*ked up.

[@sam23696]

This is around the point in the movie where I got really invested in this. I wanted to see them repair things, get the spice flowing, update their equipment and see how House Atreides does things.

[@Vilakazi]

As a fan of technology, systems and operations, i would absolutely love to see the mechanics of it all but wouldn't that be too mundane for the average viewer in theatres? It would've been great had there been an extended cut that included all the nitty gritty details like that for the rest of us who are a bit more invested. I would've loved a scene where Leto or Thufir is in talks with one of these Ixian CEO's and haggling them for a lower price on equipment and maintenance.

[@sam23696]

@@Vilakazi Oh yeah absolutely. Not just for the average viewer, but he narrative overall would've been dull as shit if it just became the day to day operation of the spice trade as they fix it. Maybe as a strategy game it could work. What they used here was a pretty common narrative tool where they get you invested in the success of some mission, in this case the spice industry, before mercilessly destroying literally everything and everyone.

[@farisanwari777]

Hell yeah I understand, if only there's a slice-of-life spinoff where betrayal did not cut the Atreides so deeply and they resumed operations. Fighting the Harkonnens back would've been a matter of economics and intrigue. I'll seek a fanfic of such.

[@jojoisking6135]

I just realized after watching Dune Part Two that the man standing by Leto' side and saying "Attention" is Lieutenant Lanville, and it is the same man that is fighting Feyd-Rautha in the arena in the second movie

[@KoiYakultGreenTea]

He's the guy who asks Duncan how his flight was and said he'd calibrate the loose stabilisers. When duncan was fiddling she called out "lanville". When Leto was surveying arrakeen he said "sun's getting too high. We need to close the doors". When stilgar approached he was the one that said stop there. When Paul had his visions of fanatical legions and him watching from above, lanville was beside Jamis by his side

[@thegreatreverendx]

I love the suits. I love the office. I’d love to run a company like this. It would be the weirdest company anyone would ever see, but I’d love coming to work.

[@Synaps4]

You have my sword. And my resume.

[@frankmann1060]

That's the impression I got from the books, the Atredies family runs their operations like a corporation.

[@NomadUrpagi]

Anyone would love coming to work when YOU run the company.

[@ams4328]

"...It would be the weirdest company anyone would ever see,...", but it would be the most successful.

[@hasanhaitham276]

@@ams4328 Until the Harkonnens come to destroy your empire

[@greyfells2829]

I understand why we couldn't spend too much time in this part of the story, but I love seeing the atreides system in action.

[@Captain_Razor_88]

20 silos a crate, 20 crates... 400 silos of spice every 25 days. Remember how in the old games sometimes the objective was to reach a certain number in credits? I wonder how much 400 silos worth of spice would add up in game.

[@wawawuu1514]

Couldn't a suitcase full of Spice buy a planet or something? The wealth in those silos, once filled, should be beyond anything imaginable.

[@dreadgod81]

@@gl22222 Worse - the 10 billion Solaris is the profit the Harkonnens took for themselves, on top of the tithe (the 20 crates) due to the Emperor.

[@ams4328]

1 Silo fills up 700 units worth of spice, so 20 silos is 14,000, multiplied by 20 crates = 280,000 worth of spice

[@pixel-genius]

Using the units per silo from AMS, the information that dune years are earth years, and the 10 billion solaris a year figure, a unit is worth approximately 2.5k solaris. Given apparently each of those silos hold 700 units, a suitcase of spice seems close to one unit visually within 1-2 orders of magnitude. That does not seem close to enough solaris to buy planets with so the stated profit numbers seem low for the monthly spice shipment volume. (I have little to no Dune knowledge, no idea what the buying power of a solaris is, and I am using really rough guesses for everything so I may be very wrong)

[@edmis90]

@@gl22222 That number doesn't make that 1.4mil Solari's, that was the cost of the ceremonial visit at the beginning of the movie, sound like much. Either that or the 800mil/month is an unfathomable amount.

[@the3rdid485]

Imagine how much further humanity could have gotten if they didn't sabotage the best of them

[@thisrichbastard.809]

Anyone else thoroughly enjoyed this version of Dune? I sure did.

[@orion3253]

It was great. Lot of love went into it. Dune's the grand daddy of two things I love: Warhammer 40,000 and Command and Conquer, and its influence extends far beyond those two games. There's some changes to the story in this film but I think they were mostly good decisions that came from a genuine appreciation for the Dune novels, and to some extent, the culture that's built up around the series.

[@TheOwenMajor]

I think they did a great job adapting the book to movie form. I think it captures the feeling of the book far better than previous adaptations.

[@choysakanto6792]

Not that the Atreides folks needed spice or its profits anyway, they're rich enough to build a force as formidable as the universe's finest and hire the most talented men the Imperium has to offer. At the end of the day, it was the Harkonnens who actually ironically suffered more as they had wasted 60 years worth of profits that Vlad had to short his spice stock to sell more expensive, only served to further weaken his position more when the Fremen later counterattack within 5 years. Both Harkonnens and Corrinos wound up kicking their own balls.

[@warriorsheartcosplay3016]

@choysakanto actually the Harkonnens controlled Dune for 80 years, according to Gurney Halleck. And true, Leto wasn't there for profit like everyone else would have been, he was there to forge an alliance with the Fremen. But it was still very important that he maintained regular spice harvesting and exportation.

[@walangchahangyelingden8252]

It's not the profit that's the problem for the Harkonen, no one will support the Harkonnen like they did the Atriades. Shaddam Corrino knew what he was doing, excellent strategy. A random Jihad happening was something hard to expect.

[@choysakanto6792]

@@warriorsheartcosplay3016 yes it was 80 years of control but Vlad spent basically all the earnings that he got in 75% of the total time that they were harvesting spice in Arrakis, all he was left was 20 years worth of harvest which would really take a long time to recoup what has been lost trying to bring the Sardaukar in.

[@choysakanto6792]

@@walangchahangyelingden8252 I beg to differ. He seriously underestimated a person, in this case a teen, who has been trained by a person belonging to some sus organization from which one of them was also his and the Imperial Truthsayer.

[@walangchahangyelingden8252]

@@choysakanto6792 While that may be true, he was simply unaware of this. Then again, what could he do? Opposing the Witches will get him killed for sure.

[@VictorIV0310]

Can't wait for Part 2!

[@maerosss]

Just been to Jordan, trekking the Wadi Rum and we actually saw multiple movie setups along the way. Damn I'm excited!!! 🙂

[@FPAlpha]

Something i only now realized rewatching the scene - all the chairs are antigrav. Seems like that technoogy is so easy to fabricate that it took precedence if simple chair legs with rollers. Neat.

[@Wolf10media]

Woooaaa, wait I've watched this movie twelve times. Didn't even noticed that!

[@narunatsu1]

Love that Gurney says "gotta keep an eye on you" (that is not in the book) and then later, he is the only one noticing that Paul is out there in the spice field

[@doubleog6149]

That meeting went quick, in the book it was much longer

[@user-uy1rg8td1v]

Scenes like theses needed to be longer and more. Great visuals but many people have complained about the lack of world-building/explanation.

[@peteravellaneda9499]

It lacked the depth of the book for sure. Beautiful visuals, but it suffered at the costs of key dialogue & lore explanation, particularly with the mentats, the Bene Geserits, & Paul’s visions.

[@cosmobane6995]

You don't want people who watch your movie to escape from office meetings to see more office meeting, right?

[@Galimec1]

@@user-uy1rg8td1v The movie would be 5 hours...

[@Highinsight7]

@@Galimec1 I guess I'm one of the few who would have LOVED this first movie to be at LEAST five hours... six... PERFECT!

[@Intreductor]

"Your first strategy meeting. Paul Atreides, who catches hunter-seeker in his bare hands like a hero of old." Then a look across the table, some officers laugh and clap. Others don't find it funny, stern serious looks like Thufir who realizes the gravity of the security breach that just happened, and doesn't appreciate the joke.

[@ZemplinTemplar]

People overlook it, but there's a little joke when Thufir raises his eyebrows a bit and notes about Dr. Kynes, "Eccentric, from what I'm told.". Says the mentat spymaster walking around with a practical, but tad too cutesy parasol... :-))

[@StuartLloyd]

A) Was Paul talking about his humiliation or Thufir's? B) Did Thufir walk everyone outside to answer a question?

[@michaelrenper796]

a) Pauls humiliation b) Thufir of course did answer. In the real world they would have went outside to inspect the harvesting equipment. But this is a movie, its a far better dramatic cut to answer the question where we can see the sorry state of affarirs Read the book then watch the movie

[@bobbobertbobberton1073]

His obviously, the humiliation is that of comradery seen in the military. You do something heroic and win a medal and then your mates will bring you down to earth saying 'oh here comes the hero.'

[@rickl9462]

loved this movie. cant wait to see the second half.

[@chanciwei4990]

The silos remind me of Dune RTS~

[@wawawuu1514]

There's absurdly low amounts of security around those silos, considering the wealth inside.

[@pinecactus9672]

Yes and no. On Dune the spice is quite abundant, as long as you have the equipment and patience to harvest it. Water is the main problem. Additionally there really isn't that much Transport on and off the planet so even if someone would steal a kilo of spice there isn't really any where they could sell it. Of course someone could sneak up and plant bombs to destroy the silos that could always be a concern and they maybe should have more secuo.

[@bobbobertbobberton1073]

They are within the fortress.

[@themanhimself1229]

I believe most of them are empty, after all

[@garvwadhwaney306]

I love how this shows how good of a leader Leto is and how he rose to power with men like Duncan Idaho and Gurney Halleck in charge of his army.

[@Cadence733]

'for they draw from the abundance of the seas and the hidden treasures of the sand' Deuteronomy 33:19b (ESV)

[@BreadCroissant]

0:14 is this the guy who being slave at Harkonnen Arena in part two? right?

[@BreadCroissant]

@elysium0093 Poor guy must be many more rest Atreides being slaved

[@BreadCroissant]

@elysium0093 I remember when Paul said he will free prisoner i thought that will be Thufir but somehow Denis cut it and he say it is most painful choice that they deleted the scene

[@cosmobane6995]

They're so afraid of technology that there is not even a single screen or projection there. How can there be a meeting without a projected/printed data?

[@goarmy888]

Same way meetings were done before projectors or computers. Still achieves the same goal.

[@IwinMahWay]

Their minds project what displays of today could never. They're all human calculators. They don't need graphs to plot the data and understand it, they dont need to see maps after 1 time. Human mind can do everything better than the technology of today.

[@cosmobane6995]

@@goarmy888 yeah, but at least they used illustrated data

[@goarmy888]

@@cosmobane6995 yup

[@cosmobane6995]

@@goarmy888 I mean, there should've been someone there who drew or wrote down the data.

[@marvinhamilton6637]

The bald guy sitting next to Duke Leto. He fought Feyd Rautha on Dune part 2. In the arena scene.

[@TurKlack]

Can't help but think that those spice silos felt kinda out of place. so alone on this empty flat surface.

[@user-yt9ek2xh6i]

The rest of the space is for harvesters and transports.

[@hotsingleplaguedoctorinarea]

I just realised the Guy behind Gurney during the Silo - hostage scene is the same one Feyd killed in the Arena.

[@jb76489]

Things I like about this scene 1. When Leto enters, everyone comes to attention other than Thufir who just sits there being fat 2. This meeting was called, it lasts five seconds, one question is asked and then everyone gets up and leaves

[@arnaldoenriquez6191]

Yeah Leto is like what's up with the spice and Thufir is like " let me show you " everyone goes to the fuckin empty crates I figure more shit happened off screen but a clean cut like this is ridiculous

[@whyiaskyou]

You can see him standing to attention at 0:17

[@bravobear1844]

Interacting, also look at 0:25, after the Duke reassures his son, they all sit after Leto.

[@ndhickson3599]

House Atreides gets shit done

[@xarvis9047]

0:10 "Hey you can rent a tuba" "Why rent, when you can own?" "Lets all stand up!"

[@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an]

That video was funny

[@MV-eh3xf]

A 1 minute strategy meeting? No wonder the house mostly died 😂

[@AveTrainOnDaTrack]

Did you want a 2 hour long meeting scene instead?

[@samuelleask1132]

Such a good movie

[@TheFluffyDuck]

I want the four hour cut of this film

[@DoubleClefFm]

you are not alone my friend xD

[@Kahhru]

Not gonna happen. People will sleep through the entire thing and you know that.

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

You mean the six hour cut.

[@becausebuzzbomb6133]

I want any kind of extended version of this. I would gladly watch the entire books 1:1 visualized like the Dune movies. Sadly, Villeneuve doesn't do director's cuts, so no extended Dune movie to come. Sad, but I'm still damn happy he did such an awesome job putting Dune on the screen. A marvellous feat achieved, though it's easy to spot many things Villeneuve had to cut away to make it happen.

[@joemama114]

So earlier in the movie, Gurney said the Harkonnens held the spice fields for 80 years, and this dude says they were making 10 billion a year. Give or take they are sitting on 800 billion solaris, minus expenses possibly. Now it's somewhat unclear if he means gross income or net profit but still, if gross income was 800 billion. It makes sense just how they were able to afford that big sneak attack, and why later on in the film the old Harkonnen was so desperate to return to a stable and sizeable income.

[@ratman202]

I guess this guy is one of Moonkights other personalities

[@ghivifahmi4252]

So a Duke, a Pilot, and a mutant Egyptian god

[@ExistentialWill]

Cringeworthy reference. KZbin comment sections gotta grow up.

[@ratman202]

@@ExistentialWill Cringeworthy response. KZbin comment sections gotta grow up.

[@Z1pZ1p3r]

According to a quick search 10 bllion solari is only 162 kg in spice.

[@Kevin-fj5oe]

Well, you won't pay the factory price, right? 10 billion solary for that amount is probably after going through hundreds of hands. Just like drugs, the cartel probably spends less than $100 for making it, but the customer pays hundreds of dollars for a few grams.

[@Z1pZ1p3r]

@@Kevin-fj5oeI was trying to draw attention to how little spice in weight that is. You have seen the cannisters they have to fill. And spice seems to be a type of sand. If they were to fill that many canisters with something like sand they should weigh tens of tons not 162 kg.

[@Kevin-fj5oe]

@Z1pZ1p3r no, spice isn't sand. They're byproduct of sandworm life-cycle. They're basically shive the sand for spice. And there's 13,000 planet before the dune event, but it's probably in hundreds of thousands. So yeah, it could be expensive.

[@pjaxy]

Gurney: 😂 Thufir: 😳

[@ndhickson3599]

Paul: 🙃

[@Karboooo]

i dont get the quip from gurney at the beginning, why was he making fun of Paul taking out the hunter seeker? its like they dont believe he actually did it?

[@aritraroy6592]

Oh they can't directly say that he didn't, that's against their oath of loyalty to house Atriedes. But spoken aloud, it is a little ridiculous that he managed to catch a hunter seeker the way an ancient hero might catch a fly out of the air

[@shehansoysa571]

It was teasing and praise. It can be embarrassing to be praised by someone, even if you love them.

[@chocho8036]

they are trying to make light of a very serious situation to keep up morale, actually they took very serious steps in the book, and decided to change quarters

[@Leisurelee53]

When you are in a dangerous situation with others. And someone, by any circumstance, avoids a bad step. You highlight it. And especially If it is an omen of how poor your prospects are, you play it. Gurney was not making fun of Paul. He was using his experience, dressed up in legend building faux exaggeration, to ease the entire rooms tension. At the same time planting the idea that 'our leaders are so competent, even their children thwart the efforts of our enemies.' This was about morale. Purpose. Projecting steadfastness and strength. It was absolutely the right tactic of dialoge to set the stage for the meeting. We have serious things to discus. But we are not paranoid children. Even the child among us knows how to face up to what we are dealing with. It was actually, in its abridged way, one of my favorite scenes.

[@JnEricsonx]

@@Leisurelee53 Meanwhile Thufir is sitting there mentally cursing himself out. :( In the OG movie remember he tries resigning to Leto several times, and Leto tells him, "They got lucky, and your training helped Paul survive, stop beating yourself up!"

[@velnicasal9740]

i notice that Thufir says: "is centric", not "eccentric" that means that Dr. doesnt favor any of the noble houses, even the emperor, anyone notice that? 🤘🙂

[@NtoTheM]

The heat on Arrakis is deadly by the way. A few minutes in the sun can kill you by the way. Don't move about without your desert suit by the way. 0:52 Oh.

[@LT2Steven]

Presumably this is early in the morning, like addressed in the movie it is dangerous to go out in the noon hours.

[@1234macro]

@@LT2Steven Judging by the shadows I'd say it's well past breakfast

[@JnEricsonx]

@Hypatia :::goes to have a large drink of water right now:::

[@Pottatow]

@@1234macro Aye but what about second breakfast?

[@thecityforever1215]

I swear I heard either in the movie or in a commentary video that it's like 120-140 F most days. Dude, that's basically just Kuwait... If you've been deployed there, the average daytime high just at Camp Buehring is like 120 during the summer,. and easily gets hotter.

[@christianpetersen163]

Meanwhile at the Harkonnen meeting, Raban and Feyd executing their own mentats and navigators for minor slights. 😂

[@mrgoober6320]

Having Hawat be ridiculously obese sort of undermines the symbolism of Baron Harkonnen's lifestyle...

[@Morfe02]

Never notice the green ones of Gurney laugh of the joke (coronels, captains) The grey ones of Thufir not (intelligence agents, spies)

[@CrispyChristieMAC]

I understand it's a movie, but my only gripe with it is how easily the Atreides was destroyed. They had everything on their side. They had the terrain, they had the advanced warning (They knew it was coming before they even left for Harrakis), they had what was considered the universes finest military and they were somehow, someway surprised by an invasion in the dead of night. It's like, come on... This is your version of pearl harbor? I dunno, it all seemed really contra to the set up. Why place them as such a formidable military force if they're going to be bent over by such an obvious and expected strike?

[@pinecactus9672]

They were betrayed from within from the person they expected the least. The equivalent of spies opening the castle gates in the middle ages. The doctor dropped their city Shields and fed information to the harkonnens. Unfortunately there is a lot of details in the books that's left out of the movies. Hyperspace travel is done almost exclusively through the space guild so the great houses don't really have fleets they can post in orbit. There's a whole bunch of in story reasons for this both cultural, religion and technological. As well universe technology is high-tech/dumb tech again due to cultural, religious reasons which is weirdly strictly enforced. This makes sense in the books but not properly explained in the movies. Because of that there isn't much in the sense of orbital defense and warning systems so if the guild helps you in your cause you can literally sneak up in orbit of your enemy and drop on them. Again not explained well but the emperor and the harkonnens basically paid ludicrous bribes to the guild to help them.

[@silvercat18]

I have always felt that Thufir wasnt as good a mentat as everybody felt. He figured the wrong person to be the traitor (Jessica) and he was far too reliant on the shield staying up as a sort of total defence. To him it was inconceivable that the shield would fall and that there would be a direct assault on the Capital. Even with the enemy mentats, like Piter, feeding him bad information or pulling off impossible tricks like breaking Suk conditioning, he should have hedged his bets or set up some fallbacks. The Emperor's plan wasnt really rocket science and if the Atreides spy network was even slightly competent, it should have caught wind of it. Had he been a "twisted" mentat like Piter, he might have actually seen it coming. Their strength seemed to be that they could think "outside the box" of their calculations and were able to draw on their emotional flaws for a level of unpredictability or attempting to mess with things seen as impossible or generally agreed on as facts (suk conditioning). Thufir just couldnt compute that he was wrong and running the numbers again just got the same results for him. Even so, he should have had a "top 5" list of likely enemy attack options and shutting down the shield somehow should have been pretty high up there, even if it wasnt Jessica who was to do it.

[@gabe9125]

The Atreides knew Arrakis was a trap, but they believed it would be a trap years in the making. They weren't expecting the Emperor to actively throw his weight behind the Harkonnen and supply them with the elite troops necessary to wipe the Atreides off the map in a single day. They were expecting machinations and sabotage, not a military blitzkrieg.

[@Vilakazi]

@@gabe9125 in reality though, the emperor would've been confident about taking out the Atreides in a day but when it came down to it, it would turn out to be a hard dull slog like the Ukrainian war is today. I honestly didn't like how the Atreides fell in a day, it should've been a slow burn of a war that eventually ended such a great house after atleast a week of hide and seek between the soldiers up in the rocks and mountains or ended the emporers reigne it it's totality had the laansgrad united against the emperor.

[@bobbobertbobberton1073]

It wasn't their own military power that bothered the Emperor, the emperor was pissed because Leto had designed of desert power using the Fremen, which was sought out before Arrakis in the novels. The Emperor saw that like his Sardaukar were created on the prison planet: Salusa Secundus by its harsh environment, the Fremen were also warriors created by the harshness of their world, he saw it being a threat to his power. The first film kinda showed this but they made it into the Atreides creating sound/voice weaponry. This film has not really given a good account of why the assassination needed to happen.

[@TimBuktu666]

some of them sitting with their backs to the door :(

[@Wurzelknecht]

Not Gurney, though...

[@ksknght4613]

I can hear "silos needed"

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

"Hi my name is leto atreides and i took over this whole mining operation from my arch rival! Knowing them to be massive cxcks, i have obviously aquired funding and equipment to start my operation smoothly, no matter what they left. Naturally, i also beefed up and rearranged my defenses and gave even my trusted advisors and staff a new background check, to reveal potential spys being coerced by, like, say, threats to their wives. Yep, thats what i did, i am Leto Atreides, head of house atreides." - the guy they wished they had

[@KM____________]

I dont want to read the massive Dune books but the movie was so good, and knowing I won't see a sequel... or a final movie for probably ten years... these clips are changing my mind on it.

[@Wurzelknecht]

What? Part 2 is scheduled for next year. Also there's always the option of audiobooks.

[@KM____________]

@@Wurzelknecht nah, theres no way one movie next year will cover the rest, and audiobooks are so slow lols

[@AveTrainOnDaTrack]

@@KM____________ Part 2 is the other half of the first book. I highly doubt they’ll be making movies for each book. Just listen to the audiobooks

[@811chelseafc]

This is one of the scenes that felt hard done compared to the book. In the book it’s a whole chapter, and it’s where we get to see how great and effective a leader was Duke Leto. A lot more goes on, and while I totally understand the decision, it still kinda sucks. The movie did as good a job as possible of adapting Dune, but there’s so much good shit they had to cut.

[@squamish4244]

I swear the casting director is some sort of genius. Yes, including Kynes! Shit-talking that decision is the stupidest thing ever.

[@inr9751]

Meh. Can't beat Max Von Sudov.

[@donal7755]

masterpiece

[@nateyolo9827]

I buy part 1 and I got to say best movie ever

[@Mohagnito94]

Why did the Emperor not just use Atreides popularity to his end?

[@drewsanvicente7137]

Silos Needed in live action

[@andreoka]

They did a pretty good job with this iteration of dune and YET it still doesnt live up to its name so many details and scenes the directors have to do away in order to make a movie watchable in one sitting

[@idealsAREisomorphic]

Josh Brolin sounds like Thanos.

[@MurphyTheLawyer]

hmmmmm

[@krimzon7622]

Impossible

[@TheSuperhomosapien]

Nah, I don't hear it.

[@Rustspray]

So.. they planned a strategy meeting, a time and place, and at the first topic they all stood up and went all the way to the storage site just to watch a silo? Feels like a huge waste of time just to prove a point. It was probably important for the viewer to grasp the scale of the issue but from a management perspective, it's a idiotic. A "We need to fill X silos with spice every 25 days but we are only able to fill 1/20X silo" would have sufficed.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

They went there after the meeting because the Duke wanted to see things in person.

[@youtubehandlessuckass]

A lot of the longer conversations were cut from the book, like diplomatic dinners. If you want more the books is great

[@harshilpapi]

I think they skipped a lot of conversation for the viewers and then jumped to actual inspection on-ground, it almost seemed like they were anticipating Duncan's arrival as well.

[@brianmelton400]

Worst strategy ever totally wiped out and knew it was coming what a fail.

[@JustinB-e6o]

Leto was a fool

[@loganenglish6302]

Way to cut half the meeting. Glad I saw this before buying the movie

[@jolantad7971]

Wrap it up!

[@skebaba918]

10 billion doesn't sound like that much per year on a global scale like that, tbh. Especially given how fucking vital Spice is to the entire galaxy, so you will never run out of buyers n shieet

[@visorij3374]

Well we don’t know the value of there currency so we can’t tell, 10 billion in there world could be 100 trillion in ours.

[@zukadacoolestgames5087]

@@visorij3374 i think it was mentioned in the book that a briefcase of spice could get you very rich

[@Halo1138]

We know a round trip of space travel to Caladan presumably from Kaitain costs just over a million Solaris. Everything is relative when it comes to cash.

[@francoisessomba1305]

Strategy meeting with no strategy...no wonder they got wiped out so easily

[@buglepong]

i wasnt impressed with the aesthetics, even the indoors are so spartan and brutalist. the landsraad are aristocratic families, they would definitely be surrounded by decoration. it also doesnt have any contrast to the desert which obviously would be barren. the whole film is grey and orange.

[@Nebo8ful]

The indoors in their home planet (Caladan ?) is much more decorated and wealthy if you rewatch the first scene. They just got here, and architecture was made by the Arkonnen who seem to like more the brutalist architecture judging by their home planet

[@deep_fried_midget]

David Lynch understood that in his version. His Dune sets were fantastic.

[@Mediados]

I would love this movie and the franchise if it wasn't so god damn slow. Like it peaks in tension at some points, and won't do much for the next 30 minutes.

[@movieshortssociety]

Wtf, the most technologically advanced human civilization when they have conquered other planets and they use swords and knives?..

[@revenant7734]

It's because of shield technology. Personal shields stop fast moving things like bullets, but allow slow moving things through (including air, otherwise they would suffocate). A blade can be pushed slowly through a shield though. So it does make sense in that setting. I recommend you read the book, it's really good.

[@flyingrancidm00nfish7]

Its a really interesting concept, but basically guns have now been made obsolete by shield belts, these energy shields deflect projectiles back the direction they came, but melee weapons, if not too fast can breach these energy shields.

[@randomnickify]

... also they went through "Terminator" period when Ai rebeled and started murdering humans so now all advanced technology is banned. The "most advanced civilization" is now actually really backward even in our standards. They do brute force things - like they conquered stars using computers, now they use people high on Spice instead.

[@dr.strangelove9815]

Lasguns were standard before shielding, but, the shields causes a major issue when the energy weapons collide with the field: an atomic reaction. So, lasguns are relegated to hunting and fringe worlds, swordsmanship became relevant again.

[@silvercat18]

@@dr.strangelove9815 I quite liked the Sardaukar officers in the rts game who actually used lasguns. Scary stuff and they really did trigger the explosion if they hit a shielded unit.

[@IllegalPlayer275]

Too bad the movie was that boring. I almost fell asleep in the cinema

[@daviddavid5880]

I'm confused. This bagged 6 oscars?

[@IsaacRainford21]

What do you mean lol?

[@mydogsfacelookslikeastockp8275]

The whole movie, not this scene

[@coffeeandbytes9854]

What's your confusion?

[@NomadUrpagi]

tsss careful Denis fangays will be swarming you minute by minute. Millions of idiots dropping their pants for this mediocrity of a movie. Decent enough but nothing worth of drooling over and becoming a Denis worshipper.

[@leofrieri7820]

This is not anything like the book

[@quackityalt7213]

sorta the point

[@ST0AT]

Uh, yeah, because it's a MOVIE ADAPTATION?

[@ZChronicNebula]

I heard the book isn't even that good lol film better

[@alyssinclair8598]

Yeah this isn't letters on a page wtf

[@coffeeandbytes9854]

@@ZChronicNebula "I heard the book isn't even that good lol film better" - it's considered one of the best sci-fi novels of all time.

[@JamesJoyce12]

is there anything sadder than ppl who worship really bad movies??

[@pamelajohnson9214]

Nothing sadder than people coming on scenes of movies that they think are bad instead of going to ones they actually like...

[@rightrightrightuhhuhuhhuh6516]

if Thufir is so effing smart why does he have a paper umbrella in a desert? Mentat's don't read Amazon reviews apparently

[@stonem0013]

they're actually damn effective

[@rightrightrightuhhuhuhhuh6516]

@@stonem0013 in a cocktail glass

[@stonem0013]

@@rightrightrightuhhuhuhhuh6516 nah, I've used them in Vietnam and India and they work well

[@randomnickify]

Fun Fact: Umbrelas date to ancient Egypt where were meant to protect from sun, Even today in many countries we are using name "parasol" - a sun protector.

[@ADAPTATION7]

I guess sunscreen was in backorder.