Here's a campaign idea: a clerics only party is summoned by the gods to put an end to the dark age brought by the wizards only party as they slowly approach the apex of their power.
@lordbalthosadinferni4384 Жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah
@cyruscrompton82218 ай бұрын
My idea was that Moander got back so even the evil fucked up deities have to team up with good guys
@BD-Helldroid3 ай бұрын
if only there were more campaigns taking us to high level, so we could ACTUALLY achieve that apex power
@adstheantagonist7741 Жыл бұрын
the 4 horseman of the apocalypse party. War, Death, Nature and Trickery not sure if affective but very story driven posssible.
@seregarn Жыл бұрын
War, Death, Nature, and Grave (Pestilence or Famine depending on the RP) would be one hell of a game.
@euansmith3699 Жыл бұрын
The Biblical 4 Horsemen "They were given authority over a quarter of the Earth, to kill with sword, famine and plague, and by means of the beasts of the Earth." So Nature Domain could cover the beasts part.
@jpayne4964 Жыл бұрын
I think I'd choose the Light Domain for Famine. A scorcher of the earth and destroyer of plants.
@calmman32 Жыл бұрын
So there is another version of the Four horseman, victory is one. So destructive or protective.
@dhesyca4471 Жыл бұрын
Can i be the Nature cleric? I'll totally be the Nature cleric....
@mechagamera2517 Жыл бұрын
We managed to run a bards only campaign for 3 years. A clerics only campaign would be an absolute breeze comparatively
@MrGlies Жыл бұрын
Did your DM have to railroad you a lot? It just seems like you would easily get on the bandwagon.
@iankargel6590 Жыл бұрын
@@MrGlies boooo 😂
@darcraven01 Жыл бұрын
an all bard party i just view as a traveling band that scooby-doo's on the side..
@mechagamera2517 Жыл бұрын
@MrGlies We had an overall objective to travel between different cities and win a massive competition but all kinds of odd misadventures happened along the way. Our characters had their own reasons to compete and we had a few rival NPCs. Storywise it became painful when we got roped into doing favors that really exemplified the Rick & Morty 20 minute adventure meme. Combat was rough at times but it inspired us to push the boundaries of the spells we had available; melee seldom yielded positive results. BTW I got the pun but that campaign rendered the entire group numb to puns
@bulldozer8950 Жыл бұрын
I imagine the difficulty with all bard is they don’t specialize very well. No one is super flimsy but no one is a front liner. No one is damageless but no one does good consistent damage. No one lacks control options but no one can truly take control of the battlefield. No one is bad at really anything, but no one is really that good either, especially when it comes to damage or tanking which, if you don’t have a person who can fill each of those, it can be rough
@dcohen1359 Жыл бұрын
A-Men assemble! 😂
@KnightRunner777 Жыл бұрын
Let it be so
@emilbroseliger8506 Жыл бұрын
That’s a good one:D
@dcohen1359 Жыл бұрын
@@emilbroseliger8506 I can't claim that one. It's a Jocat joke.
@TheMadMedek Жыл бұрын
Someone watch Joecat?
@saltypork101 Жыл бұрын
Tiamat is nervous.
@Ubersupersloth Жыл бұрын
Regarding the “level 20 clerics vs level 20 wizards”, the clerics have 4 guaranteed divine interventions. That’s pretty strong. It’s effectively 4 wish spells.
@adamkaris Жыл бұрын
don't forget arcana cleric getting wizard spells!
@Sean-fv9rf Жыл бұрын
But 4 wizards actually have 4 wish spells!😂
@williamhurst2657 Жыл бұрын
Counterspell impacts the result pretty significantly
@Kirk9019 Жыл бұрын
@@williamhurst2657 this. Only arcana domain cleric gets counterspell. Once the wizards start spamming counterspell it's all over rover
@NoNameBoi9987 Жыл бұрын
@@Kirk9019you make a good point but also keep in mind that divine intervention is not a spell. And at this point, litterally anything is possible. Like I can imagine the trickery or arcane cleric using divine inspiration to remove counterspell or dispel magic from existence only for the wizard to immediately use wish to wish it back.
@trckstr2888 Жыл бұрын
A group of all Warforged Clerics tracking down and recovering magic items and such to build their own Warforged god!!! I need to run this campaign asap!
@Kirk9019 Жыл бұрын
I have a warforged peace domain cleric of Rao in my Princes of the Apocalypse campaign. Machine clerics are the best clerics
@jdl3408 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good idea!
@mountelbert4214 Жыл бұрын
Come and look upon the heart and akulakhan
@thisrandomdude28806 ай бұрын
PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH!
@thejammiestjam Жыл бұрын
My DM ran a one-shot for my birthday a couple years ago, and we called it "Oops all clerics!" because cleric is my favorite class. It was a lot of fun! The domains made us all still feel very different!
@dhesyca4471 Жыл бұрын
I need to do this for my birthday!!!
@Raiighn Жыл бұрын
I love the thought of an all Cleric party that follows the same deity all using Divine Intervention in the same combat like, "Mom/Dad didn't pick up the phone! You try calling them!" as they roll the dice one after another.
@jasa_TheRealOne Жыл бұрын
Just remember, as clerics (and support as a whole) our job isn't healing, it's deciding who lives and who dies.
@rogerwilco2 Жыл бұрын
Heheheh, indeed.
@Albatross0913 Жыл бұрын
1 hp ain't 0 hp
@zackgatland8647 Жыл бұрын
Remember, the best way to heal the party is to do so in advance (by killing your enemies before they have the chance to deal any damage)
@farrex08 ай бұрын
@@zackgatland8647 It has been my experience that, the best healers in any game are any class but the cleric. The bard, artificer, druid, paladin etc are always happy to heal, while the clerics are like "But I want to do some damage". And I always think and once or twice said out loud, "Why would you play cleric if you do not want to play support?".
@zackgatland86477 ай бұрын
@@farrex0 "Why would you play cleric if you do not want to play support?" Because Cleric has spiritual weapon and spirit guardians (and can get heavy armor). You can build a very strong support cleric, but you can also build a very strong offensive cleric. What ever suits your playstyle.
@Fishbiene Жыл бұрын
I think it's interesting that they both chose Trickery even though it was their lowest rated subclass. The problem with the Trickery domain is that there are other classes that can do what it does so much better, but in the context of an all cleric party it fills a small but necessary niche
@BeardedDragonite Жыл бұрын
If this series goes on through enough classes (and I hope it does) we'll eventually get to the power rangers
@AndyReichert0 Жыл бұрын
hey, the twilight, peace, trickery, and light is absolutely perfect thematically. as a concept, the twilight domain includes all of those elements. imagine the other 3 clerics as the corners of the twilight triforce.
@woutvanostaden1299 Жыл бұрын
I would probably also add/swap trickery with tempest and order (extra control and action economy disruption, since light has blasting covered and peace and twilight are trivialising healing/communal hp pool and taking) for a very strong party. While tempest is harder to justify thematically, well someones gonna have to keep the order in the chaos.😂 What do you think would you agree?
@angelalewis3645 Жыл бұрын
🙌🏻
@WeShallLoveOn Жыл бұрын
This could for sure work for a god/goddess of the moon or stars
@shadcroly Жыл бұрын
Light, Twilight, Trickery, and Peace is also basically Sehanine, the Moonweaver.
@tfilipow7 Жыл бұрын
twilight and peace are broken
@MGC-XIII Жыл бұрын
I would imagine Cleric is one of the best classes to fill your party with.
@richardduncan2954 Жыл бұрын
The big 3 as far as filling in would be wizards clerics and rogues. Rogues get a bit squishy but a party that all can stealth and sneak attack is totally broken for combat lol.
@rcschmidt668 Жыл бұрын
That may be, but first we have to convince Kelly, Jill, and Joe to run a cleric in Drakkenheim.
@OhhLoz Жыл бұрын
@@richardduncan2954 I would've thought paladins would be a big one aswell
@richardduncan2954 Жыл бұрын
@@OhhLoz paladins would be like one step down. Super good still but not really as much so as wizards or clerics. Rogues really are close to the paladins tho for that. If paladins had a bit more features on utility I'd say they'd be good for this too but really combat and social they are good but other then that they fall pretty low.
@scrubnub6203 Жыл бұрын
@@richardduncan2954 I would say bards are a bit better than rouges. You still get skills and can cover all pillars of play. You start off a bit weak but you can actually build really high damage bards with the right feats and subclasses. Plus magical secrets in the late game makes that party insane.
@darcraven01 Жыл бұрын
35:32 for a "4 horsemen of the apocalypse" themed cleric party, if you want to go with the classic "war, death, famine, pestilence/plague" themed, I'd take the following to fill each role: +War Rider - War Domain.. obviously +Death Rider - Grave Domain. The death rider is less about bringing death and more about gathering the dead, as he is described as being followed by hades, the resting place of the dead. Likewise the Grave domain is about watching over the line between life and death. To resist death, or to desecrate the dead’s rest, is an abomination. Grave domain also focuses on the death itself and imo, it fits better than the death domain. +Pestilence Rider - Death Domain. some deities who have Death as their domain also have poison and disease as a domain. this domain tends to focus on the school of necromancy and necrotic damage more than actual death. Many Necromancy spells tend to make the target sick or inflict a disease or poison on the target and so Death domain would work well. (also, in a lot of fantasy, zombies and vampires are created by diseases of different kinds so that'd work with the undead aspect as well) +Famine Rider - Tempest Domain. this one was a hard one to decide upon. at first, the sound of Nature domain seems to be a perfect fit but nature domain is more about growth and command of plants as well as communicating and commanding animals. kinda the opposite of a famine. however, famines are often caused by a huge storm causing fires or floods that wipe out crops. so a cleric who commands such forces seems like a good fit. Oh, and the spell "Insect Plague" is on their domain spell list.. a plague of insects would cause famine as they eat all the food.. so there is that. lol. I'd have used death domain as some necromancy spells do cause withering effects on plant life and would be a great fit but can't use repeat domains in this and death was already taken (and fits better overall in pestilence imo). so Tempest domain is my pick for famine. now those are the classic interpretations of the horsemen. however, if you want to be more biblically accurate, there is no pestilence rider. instead, there is a "conquest" rider. and if we used this (conquest, war, famine, and death) than the domains i would use to fill each role are as follows: +Conquest Rider - War Domain. the conquest rider is going out to conquer. he's actively fighting. war domain is all about battle and some of the gods who hold it as a domain also hold conquest as a domain. It fits well. +War Rider - Forge Domain. in the bible, it mentions that the war rider is "given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other". how do you make men slay each other? you give them weapons. weapons must be forged, so craftsmen are the backbone of war and the forge domain fits this better than the war domain. +Famine Rider - Death Domain. pretty much as i mentioned above in the pestilence rider and famine rider of the classic horsemen.. death domain focuses on necromancy spells and necrotic damage and many necromancy spells have strong effects on plant life. it was my first choice above but i couldnt use it up there.. i have no restrictions here and it does fit better than the tempest overall. +Death Rider - Grave Domain. Pretty much everything stated above still applies here.
@itwasidio1736 Жыл бұрын
oh wow this was super eye-opening. made me kinda chuckle thinking of how they'd introduce themselves and explain their mechanical differences in domains DESPITE their official names
@darcraven01 Жыл бұрын
@@itwasidio1736 honestly if i were to go with either of these party builds i may rename their domains into what horseman role they were filling just to make it easier to keep track of. and might make some cosmetic changes to spells to make them fit more as well.. stuff that doesnt effect gameplay but effects roleplay.
@XionDarkblood138 ай бұрын
I think for famine I really liked the concept from Supernatural. The famine isn't lack of the amount of something but the lack of being satisfied. For that I think it best and go really dark and use the Life domain. They facilitate such a desire for life and excess that people eat each other alive. Peace domain might also work. People are so secure in their peace and comfort that they indulge to the point of decadence and extravagence and overconsumption they destroy themselves.
@darcraven018 ай бұрын
@@XionDarkblood13 while the concept is interesting, i was also looking at the actual subclasses in terms of abilities.. nothing in the life domain lends to that imo.. with life domain being about healing its not really a "eating others alive because of a desire for life".. peace domain has a similar thing.. its got healing and protection type stuff, neither lending to the concept of indulging on comforts... i do like the concept you suggest, but imo you gotta look at more than just the name of the domain when picking the correct subclass to go with.
@XionDarkblood138 ай бұрын
@@darcraven01 I think no matter what there is going to be some roleplay required to create the theme. Its more of a concept than a direct force. Famine is a hard thing to tranlsate to combat. You could do a bit of imagination and the Life domain is stealing from others essence to heal others. Not exactly mechanically correct but again its something hard to translate. I suppose you could try the Order domain and try to use the enchantments to make people starve themselves, perhaps the Trickery domain to make the food dissapear but overall Famine isn't somehthing that can be brought life in a combat situation. At least not in the skirmish battles of DnD.
@emilbroseliger8506 Жыл бұрын
In my newest campaign, my players are all artificers. They just wanted that. Bag of holding for everyone:D
@adriel8498 Жыл бұрын
Bag of holding exploding everywhere, be ready for that
@Phhase Жыл бұрын
Firmitas machina!
@mactireliath2356 Жыл бұрын
It’s a great class; I’ve played through Avernus to level 14. Wish there were more subs for it
@karasutenka Жыл бұрын
Did somebody say multiple black hole guns at lvl 2?
@xantares13 Жыл бұрын
Combine your four spirit guardians to make an Asura and have it wield all four of your spiritual weapons.
@richardduncan2954 Жыл бұрын
Honestly as a dm I would totally let them use that in the final fight and get a nearly instant win.
@RovalisGTO Жыл бұрын
@@richardduncan2954 So there I was, drinking on guard duty like usual, when this ten-story divine monstrosity knocks on my door, and then he goes, he says, "HELLO SIR MIGHT I TROUBLE YOU FOR SOME CHANGE" and i said "how much you need, divine monsta?" and that's when he tells me, he says, he says, "i need about tree fiddy"
@detectivefoxley9912 Жыл бұрын
@@RovalisGTO God dammit lock Ness monster leave me alone.
@Laryon720 Жыл бұрын
@@RovalisGTO i was expecting a play on word with '' trouble you for some change '' and he just start to punch him to convert it to their god
@Draelos3 ай бұрын
LOL! I can just imagine a single sharkrat slinging around a spiritual sword, hammer, shield, and bow.
@KirstenBayes Жыл бұрын
Guiding Bolt, an upcastable attack roll spell, will be this group's best friend.
@joaopedromeira2619 Жыл бұрын
its kinda weak though
@KirstenBayes Жыл бұрын
@@joaopedromeira2619 by itself, little bit, but advantage on the next attack can push up the average damage. The range isn't bad either. Part of the toolkit.
@adamkaris Жыл бұрын
@@joaopedromeira26194d6 for a level 1 slot? And advantage on the next attack? Chromatic orb and catapult are 3d8.
@ZttackFrmBhind Жыл бұрын
Not to mention they will give the next guiding bolt advantage, giving drastically higher chances of critting
@joaopedromeira2619 Жыл бұрын
@@adamkaris yeah but, if youre gonna upcast it it gets weak real fast, at level one is indeed pretty good (I said its weak thinking about upcastable part)
@anengineeredplayer7388 Жыл бұрын
Using magic initiate to grab booming blade on your tempest cleric would also help with the melee ability for this cleric party
@mcullennz Жыл бұрын
Just play a kobold and pick booming blade
@williamatkins3465 Жыл бұрын
Last year I ran 6 session campaign with 2 Paladins and 3 Clerics. It was a blast.
@EruditeGayming Жыл бұрын
i can see a 4 cleric party having a day where theyre like ''WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO ONE BROUGHT ANY HEALING SPELLS TODAY'' cause they all assume the others have it covered
@macdd7257 Жыл бұрын
These kind of videos are really entertaining. Thanks Dudes!
@DungeonDudes Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@undersci Жыл бұрын
I love the Nature cleric here, providing missing battlefield control with Spike Growth, Plant Growth, and forced movement with Thorn Whip, which is also great for Spirit Guardians. Probably also have Telekinesis, in a build similar to Colby's (d4) nature cleric.
@irenewhitcomb1813 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't see the point of Forge past level 5. Fire 🔥 is less reliable as you gain levels.
@captainpolar2343 Жыл бұрын
Life and Death (or Grave) could be Anubis as he was often seen as the one who judges who carries on or dies
@Kirk9019 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Anubis is one of the named gods for Grave Domain 😁
@acehole131 Жыл бұрын
4x the spirit Guardians 4x the spiritual weapon
@talongreenlee7704 Жыл бұрын
Does a creature take damage from multiple spirit guardians spells? There’s that whole thing about multiple castings of one spell not overlapping. I’d say you probably only half your speed once but take damage four times, but that’s kinda broken.
@Hazel-xl8in Жыл бұрын
i think starting your turn in multiple spell areas of the same name means you just get hit by the most powerful one
@adriel8498 Жыл бұрын
@@talongreenlee7704 no, but imagine the area they can cover haha
@AlbertaGeek Жыл бұрын
@@talongreenlee7704 Does a creature take damage from overlapping fireballs? Still, I get what you're saying. As a DM, I'd allow it, but with diminishing returns. One "aura" of spirit guardians does the usual 3d8, a second overlapping one adds 2d8, a third adds 1d8, fourth or higher adds nothing.
@michaelhall5801 Жыл бұрын
Melee enemies just get hit by 16d8 everytime they run in 😂
@samsmith9451 Жыл бұрын
I ran a one shot called cleric con, a whole party of clerics vs undead waves like cod zombies, with a random magic item from the magic item table after every wave. It was a complete slaughter for the undead! Really hard to balance!
@deckerjake438 Жыл бұрын
My dream!!! I love cleric and would have a blast doing this. Imagine the banter and role playing fun of who’s Deity is the best.
@AriThecraftydragon Жыл бұрын
Yes, and it could be light-hearted with serious undertone but respect like in Conan: The Barbarian.
@helixxharpell Жыл бұрын
See my previous post. 😂 The religious debates kept things lively! I was like Matt Mercer just listening & trying not to have the Gods intercede! 😂
@wolfyblackknight8321 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why but my brain immediately flashed to George Carlton's very intense "my god has a bigger d*ck then your god" with the other cleric just saying in an almost dumbfounded "we literally worship the same god"
@Hesadryt10 ай бұрын
“We’re on a mission from god” “yea but which one?”
@KnicKnac Жыл бұрын
I like the throwback to 3.5 deities. I miss seeing Wee Jas on the list. She’d be a fun focus of Grave/Arcane/Order/Death
@sandmanlives3 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, as always. Thank you. This is my favorite class. I’m so happy to see this video pop up! The rituals they can all bring are also super sweet. Personally, I’d take a Light, Trickery, Tempest, and Forge domain in an all Norse setting.
@kdaniels4992 Жыл бұрын
Please do an all barbarian party next, the role playing applications are hilarious!!! 😂
@lenacayman873 Жыл бұрын
That would be my worst nightmare as a DM 😂
@FutureOverYou Жыл бұрын
That party is just so freaking angry, lol.
@Kirk9019 Жыл бұрын
Apes together, strong.
@matiskrawiec Жыл бұрын
It will be a short video
@darcraven01 Жыл бұрын
ah yes, barbarian only group.. also known as "failed anger management group"
@wcamp6761 Жыл бұрын
The peace and twilight combo could really work in an Eberron setting as both could worship Boldrei.
@kierantobin4553 Жыл бұрын
This is just stronger than a lot of regular parties
@dranziken Жыл бұрын
In some versions of lore, all the scalekind gods were once one, The World Serpent. Imagine a group of lizardfolk, yuan-ti, kobold, etc, clerics all receiving a vision and coming together to reform the serpent.
@cakel7896 Жыл бұрын
This video just made me think about all Druid team. They speak for the trees and they must defend nature.
@Dannihilate Жыл бұрын
I cannot wait for the all Druid video. It's my favorite class and I would think an all Druid party would be pretty strong.
@Neo1punkt1 Жыл бұрын
Our party for a short adventure-in-between-adventures currently has 3 druids (2 stars, 1 sheperd) and its pretty funny, we have ALL the advantage ALL THE TIME with those guiding bolts and faerie fires and summons, the kitchen sink and everything else. Also exploration and gathering information with multiple druids is so funny, among us we basically have a spy network of squirrels.
@roccov3614 Жыл бұрын
I was reminded of that episode of Doctor Who "The Time of Angels" where the doctor works with a group of militarised clerics. It's basically an army of soldiers that are also all clerics.
@joelbarona9568 Жыл бұрын
I really want to get the one about a Monk only party
@thetowndrunk988 Жыл бұрын
Now that would be interesting
@sambirch5153 Жыл бұрын
It's called "oops, we're all dead"
@beardyben7848 Жыл бұрын
Everybody was kung-fu fightiiing
@bubbles9829 Жыл бұрын
Tabaxi, Yuan-Ti, Aarakocra and Tortle Monk?
@darcraven01 Жыл бұрын
@@bubbles9829 nah, 4 tortle monks.. tmnt that shit
@nathanielspohn3004 Жыл бұрын
My very first campaign I came into in the final dungeon to cover for somebody who couldn't make it anymore. I had a life cleric and there was already a war cleric. We had opposite alignments, but got on wonderfully. We cheesed the BBEG in like 4 turns of keeping him from doing anything. Not sure of he had any legendary abilities or whatnot or if the DM forgot about them, but it was pure cheese.
@eliasvernieri Жыл бұрын
i would love to have a chosen group of the great aliance. with each character representing the best of their race and the head of their pantheons... a dwarven forge domain follower of moradin, an elf Twilight follower of corellon, a halfing peace domain follower of yondalla and one human light follower of lethander
@cormorantcolors Жыл бұрын
4:12 I love this idea because it reminds me a lot of the cleric in my long-running (like three years at this point I think?) Tyranny of Dragons campaign. He’s an arcana domain cleric who serves the universe itself. His holy symbol has been the ying-yang symbol and a set of scales at different points in the campaign, and for every healing/buffing spell he takes he takes a damaging/debuff spell to counterbalance it. It’s also fun because his rival in the party is my wild magic sorcerer, born from a literal knot in the weave. The cleric is super cool, and definitely the strongest member of the party.
@TheHornedKing Жыл бұрын
You become the A-Men.
@bobshark666 Жыл бұрын
Be a Mark of Shadow Elf, a Arcana Domain Cleric, and a Prismari Background. Mark of Shadow Elf gives you alot of Illusion based spells that can almost simulate a Trickery Cleric. The Arcana Cleric with the Ritual Caster Feat (Wizard) will almost be a spell caster similarly equal to a Wizard. Prismari Background gives you some more diverse spellcasting capabilities. Plus, you get a free Feat for more Cantrips. At 17th Level, learn the Simulacrum and Wish spells. At 20th Level, you and your Simulacrum can both cast the Wish spell from using your 9th Level Spell Slots, while you use a guarantee Divine Intervention to cast the Wish spells again.
@RoleRealms Жыл бұрын
What if your clerics ARE the gods, manifested in mortal form for a specific task and all members of the same pantheon. Like the gods are all locked up in the heavens and they've concocted this scheme to get their avatars onto the material plane in order to open the lock from this side.
@zacharyhawley1693 Жыл бұрын
I mean it could easily work. Like oh no a divine barrier prevents our direct interference. But what if? We used mortal vessels to break it from that side?😮
@DungeonDudes Жыл бұрын
really cool idea
@HandsomeDanVacationRentals Жыл бұрын
My group is going to be taking on this challenge next! Thanks guys for the ideas. First up, a ragtag wandering band of mercenaries (fighters) hired by the king but will be betrayed through rather insidious means and declared deserters and fugitives. They will have to come up with a way to clear their names or embrace the new new. It’s going to be a blast.
@jsbcody Жыл бұрын
We ran a 6 person all cleric (different domains) group aka “The Miracle Six”. The DM has recovered from his breakdown and was going nicely until we had a group with 2 Halflings-both with Luck Feat and 4 Divination Wizards……….We are pretty sure the DM isn’t coming back from this one.
@timr7349 Жыл бұрын
I would totally enjoy watching more of these all something party. This was super interesting and I enjoyed it a lot!
@davea6314 Жыл бұрын
Arcana cleric is a good 1 or 2 level dip for an eloquence bard or a lore bard.
@pbpbpblt Жыл бұрын
Im hoping this becomes a series, as the concept has fed my favorite one shots ive ever played in. Looking forward to oops all bards, as well as the oops all monks episodes
@RavingNutter Жыл бұрын
Time to go bully Tiamat for her lunch money.
@bigdaddymatty23 Жыл бұрын
This definitely one of my favorite series you guys have done. Loving it
@siaszirthe3334 Жыл бұрын
Now I’m wondering what a Paladin only campaign would go…
@benjaminoechsli1941 Жыл бұрын
*_Smite._*
@DR-023-176 ай бұрын
Haven't seen it yet so I'll suggest it, a party of all clerics who are demi-gods like in the Percy Jackson series!
@fandomonium3789 Жыл бұрын
Dungeon Dudes: There's not really an answer to social encounters Me: Gee, if only there was a Love Domain that people didn't throw a fit over that could have filled that party role.
@helixxharpell Жыл бұрын
Add a beautiful red head cleric of Sune & there ya go!
@fandomonium3789 Жыл бұрын
@@helixxharpell Mmhmm. And instead, she's still stuck as a goddess of Life and Light, even though she has no connections to healing or the sun.
@Derpingmuffin Жыл бұрын
Cleric: "Oh, you too?" Everyone: "Same"
@thetowndrunk988 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking this would be slightly powerful in an all undead campaign.
@rogerwilco2 Жыл бұрын
Only a bit.
@thegooddoctor2009 Жыл бұрын
True, but thematically it would make a lot of sense.
@thetowndrunk988 Жыл бұрын
@@thegooddoctor2009 it’d definitely. I’d argue the only thing more thematic would be throw in a paladin or two, and it’d be the most thematic adventure in history.
@davidczu Жыл бұрын
Great episode guys. Really enjoyed it. Thank you. 👍
@it_buddy Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you guys talk out a four druids party! It'd be un-bear-able
@darcraven01 Жыл бұрын
38:37 ok so... arcane domain - former wizard, nature domain - former druid, trickery domain - former rogue, war domain - former paladin (or warrior, but it kinda has a paladin feel to the domain)
@talongreenlee7704 Жыл бұрын
I think if you played a War, Trickery, Light, and Life domain party, you’d have your classic fighter, rogue, wizard, and cleric style party pretty easily.
@adriel8498 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Another option is War, Knowledge, Tempest and Life, almost the same with different foccus.
@darcraven01 Жыл бұрын
why light..? theres literally an arcane domain
@talongreenlee7704 Жыл бұрын
@@darcraven01 because I only have the PHB and light gets fireball
@darcraven01 Жыл бұрын
@@talongreenlee7704 i mean... i guess thats fair... but like, cant you use online resourses?
@talongreenlee7704 Жыл бұрын
@@darcraven01 not technically legally unless I pay for it
@XanceMRevola Жыл бұрын
The cleric party I came up with when I first started watching the video was Life, War, Knowledge / Arcana, and Trickery Immediately realized Twilight was going to get the nod but wasn't sure what niche it would fill. After y'all mentioned the way Life becomes less necessary when everybody has the default cleric healing ability, my grouping would probably lean toward Death for martial DPS, War or Forge for tankiness, still Arcana or Knowledge for general utility, and Trickery is tempting, but so is a Light cleric with the criminal background.
@_fedmar_ Жыл бұрын
All of them worship the same god and they all say the others are doing it wrong
@popularopinion1 Жыл бұрын
I've hand crafted (Forgotten Realms) domains for the 4 elemental gods of Kossuth, Istishia, Akadi, and Grumbar. Fire domain is a blaster, water domain is a controller, air domain is an agile combatant that specializes in slipping into the back line and striking, earth domain is incredibly resilient front line tank. They're all great in a party of other classes etc, but I'm very happy with the idea of them as a party of 4, preaching elemental unity.
@czcrossman Жыл бұрын
Clerics are one of the only classes where you could have an entire party of the same class and not really suffer at all.
@Qaos Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Bard next! Also, it would be funny to see just how bad (or perhaps surprisingly okay-ish) an all-Monk party would be.
@joshhall3040 Жыл бұрын
An all druid party would be really good as well!!!
@robertvaerewyck5951 Жыл бұрын
I think they missed a key damage option based on AC not ST. 4 people chain casting guiding bolt. Each one doing 14 average, and more than likely hitting because of the advantage from the previous
@darcraven01 Жыл бұрын
41:22 idea.. id think it'd be to start a campaign but idk how the party would be together before this.. anyway, all 4 are clerics to different gods and all 4 clerics use Divine Intervention.. they all get an answer but none from the god they worship. its a 5th god(or maybe a demon/devil) who answers
@northtreker2003Ай бұрын
I’m so excited for this series remade for 2024
@cj374ace2 Жыл бұрын
4 hours ago I started my campaign (Out of the Abyss) with my party of 4 clerics. Domains: Peace, Grave, Death, and Twilight
@mikecarson7769 Жыл бұрын
Very fun to watch your all-one-class team videos! For cleric team, i would start with Knowledge, Light, and Trickery Domains ... then in a larger group, would add whatever fits the theme or else Arcana Domain.
@Stefanos07520 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video like this for every class. Personally I would be really excited to hear about what kind of shenanigans and all druid party could get into.
@darcraven01 Жыл бұрын
39:20 mentioning the dragon deities got me thinking about one (or two, pending on how you look at it) that most people forget about. there is one known as "Null". he is the dragon god of death. he has two aspects (which are sometimes separated as different deities in place of Null) known as The Guardian of the Lost (named "Chronepsis") and The Reaver (named "Faluzure"). As Chronepsis, he is neutral or good and guides the souls of dragons to the afterlife. Fate and Judgment (but only of dragons) are also in his portfolio. He is also called a god of "eternal law" but doesnt really care about justice. as Faluzure he is evil and is the god of undeath, decay, and the like. Its said that Faluzure is a gifted master of disguise and that he has a terrible beauty that must be maintained by death. So i decided to look into what 5e cleric domains would work with this idea in a 4 cleric party and here is what with this. first of all, the 4 dragonborn clerics would be key in this (probably take 2 metallic for Chronepsis and two chromatic for Faluzure, but that'd just be extra flavor that'd not be required). For Chronepsis, you would definately need Grave Domain. as for his second cleric, if you're ok with using Unearthed Arcana than there is a Fate Domain that would be perfect. Otherwise you probably would need to take Order Domain. as for Faluzure, Death domain is a must for his first cleric. for his second cleric, you could play off the "master of disguise" part of him and use Trickery domain, elsewise you could have a War domain who's purpose is to feed death to Faluzure to help maintain his beauty. I think if you used order with chronepsis than trickery would be a good opposite to it but if you took the UA fate domain than war may be a better option but really it wouldn't matter overall. in the end, the idea would be all 4 clerics serve Null but in different ways.
@everythingknife8763 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for All Paladin Party.
@andynelson952 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing a peace domain cleric. Emboldening Bond stacked with bless is just fantastic(+2-+8 on attacks AND saving throws). The utility of the Protective Bond to determine where the damage goes in the party can be taken advantage of as well.
@TyrannoLime Жыл бұрын
I think I’m leaning towards trying to make a religious assassin group that’s essentially the darker version of the templars. They all believe their killing is justified, or at least, most do and those that don’t keep quiet. For them I’m leaning towards Trickery, Tempest, Grave, Twilight, with Tempest being a bit more of the ‘flashy’ and “smite thee” approach, and Trickery and Twilight being the more “boogeyman” approach of scary flying or sneaking or both. Grave is there mostly to pray for those who are having “divine judgment enacted upon them” I could switch out some of these to be more optimal or more flavorful but
@steveleavell114 Жыл бұрын
You can't ignore their weapon attacks when you factor in Divine Strike. And most of their damage spells deal Radiant damage. The only creatures that have resistance is Celestials. And concerning high level wizard v high level cleric I would like to refer you to the Bonaduce father son fight where Cadderly came out on top. For battle control remember Divine Word and Banishment.
@BarelyMonthly Жыл бұрын
I feel like this would be a pretty solid group to run with. I love the Cleric class!
@benjaminstout941 Жыл бұрын
Ran a short campaign with 3 17th level clerics, each with a 7th level cleric retainer. There was a demonic invasion blasting out of an ancient tomb. They needed to go in and close the demonic gate inside the tomb.
@itsallwayspouringo Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of an all cleric party made up of a twilight, life, peace, and grave cleric. Nobody would ever die
@johnwspeck Жыл бұрын
We did this for rappan athuk in 3.5e. Our "cleric crawl" required at least 50% levels in cleric.
@ramondiamond6152 Жыл бұрын
We're going to run a one-shot at my table where our party is a family of fathomless warlocks. Really excited for that one.
@Synetik Жыл бұрын
Peace cleric's bond still would be extremely useful keeping everyone's spirit guardians up. lol
@ThatoneGuy-zd4rl Жыл бұрын
Dude this idea is just awesome - love the all wizard campaign and monk too - or even paladins and it’s just a twist on the crusades. Amazing ideas and themes to explore.
@Raoul9753 Жыл бұрын
The DM has to prepare every encounter about 5 levels higher than the party level actually is, to give them a challenge
@ContemporaryMatt Жыл бұрын
I love this series. Can't wait to see the other classes!
@benjamintalbert4473 Жыл бұрын
Also don't forget the spell Barrowed Knowledge. That combined with Enhance Ability or Guidance or both if you have 2 clerics (which you do) makes it literally impossible to fail any Ability check, even if it's one you're bad at. Clerics literally have no weakness. Easy S tier
@foolycoolytheband Жыл бұрын
Would absolutely love to see you guys run these all one class parties through some bonkers lvl 20 adventure to see how they do
@TheBillykurtz Жыл бұрын
A fun party is one of all Dwarves who are of the forge, war, light, life domains all patrons of Moradin. They all fit very thematically with the Dwarven life and have light(fire) from underground. War fighting any army that attacks the clan, the forge from the minerals they mine, light for the fire/lava under ground and the fourth can really be quite a few thing but the life domain is the balance that fire creates(with destruction comes new life).
@brickmastere55355 ай бұрын
35:38 In the Bible, the first horseman is actually Conquest, not Pestilence, so an Order Domain Cleric would fit quite well. Given their Channel Divinity option and general "I tell you what to do" powers, they would make for a good representation of Conquest!
@dherrera7279 Жыл бұрын
I'm personally really looking forward to the all Paladin and all Fighter episodes, since those are my top 2 favorite classes.
@TheWanderersWit Жыл бұрын
Regarding the social capabilities of the Clerics, Fast Friends isn't necessarily a casual spell to use, but when you NEED to succeed, that's available on the Cleric spell list for Social situations. Wanted to toss it out as I didn't see it mentioned in the video.
@tjrobards Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this series, gives me such good thought experiment material for my NPC's in my game.
@Hyde_Hill Жыл бұрын
How has this not been posted yet? It's the "A Men" ! Thanks JoCat.
@gongolongo1 Жыл бұрын
Love that video as much as the all wizard party video very fun and interessting to listen to you as allways is this format going to be once a month continuing forward ?
@jonathanmartin8716 Жыл бұрын
I"m so used to having a decent charisma score as a Cleric because I used to focus on Undead dealing in 3.5 and Pathfinder, You needed WIS for your spellcasting and CHA for turning, I also think Clerics can be needed to be very social in Intimidating situtions to keep people on the straight and narrow, to help people express their feelings and when I was playing my Cleric, I was very expressive to the point where I came up with an entire wedding ceremony for my Cleric of Shelyn :) Was very proud of myself for that one. :)
@TheHornedKing Жыл бұрын
The traditional Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are actually Conquest, War, Famine and Death. Modern media just likes to use Pestilence instead of Conquest, which is a later interpritation, but Conquest is the original one, and the one actually described in the Bible if grab one and read it. "Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, "Come." I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer." - Revelation 6:1-2
@GravSh4rk Жыл бұрын
Yeah it upsets me way more than it should when people don't use conquest, just sounds super cool and brutal comparatively.
@TheHornedKing Жыл бұрын
@@GravSh4rk Same. People say it's too similar to War, but the horseman himself sounds nothing like the horseman of war, and represent different things. Also, pestilence is already mentioned as being in the horsemen's arsenal, when it says the horsemen are gonna kill with "sword, famine, pestilence, and the wild beasts of the earth", so having a horseman of pestilence is redundant.
@GravSh4rk Жыл бұрын
@@TheHornedKing yeah it's such a shame but all we can do is try to teach
@kevinbaird6705 Жыл бұрын
7:58 A similar trick for GURPS splatbooks back in the day was "pick 3 or 4 and make sense of them". Greece + Religion + Robots + Space = Battlestar Galactica, for example.
@TheKilogram1000 Жыл бұрын
Our group did this as an Interfaith Center retreat where we went to a Circus and there were some eldritch horrors underneath the circus tent that we had to fight.
@Chris-io4iz Жыл бұрын
We did something sort of like this in a campaign set in a mythological version of Akhenaten's Egypt. Since he outlawed all of the other gods except Aten, the scions of all of the other gods had to work together to defeat a common enemy.
@bukharagunboat8466 Жыл бұрын
We had this happen in our 1E group. The campaign was rather as Gygax originally envisioned, which resembled a series of pickup games. Players found that Magic Users got squished by physical damage at low levels, and Fighters got eaten later. Clerics (and Druids) combined robustness and spellcasting (with fast progression at low levels) and were found to do best. When I brought my Druid along I generally had to operate as an erstatz wizard, which was fun to figure out. When we saw the other classes it was almost always in some sort of multi- or dual-classed combination (including the 1E Bard). Once 2E came along I played in a game where characters had inordinately high ability scores. In that context Fighter/Cleric multiclasses dominated. One thing that was poorly recognized in 1 and 2E was that ability scores seriously affected the balance between the classes. For example the 2E Fighter/Cleric combination was completely useless to a character with just a couple of 15/16s.
@misterproof Жыл бұрын
We did this last year for a short Dead in Thay adventure and it was hilarious. Especially since it was a 6 clerics party. Good times.
@spacecakeunicorn3462 Жыл бұрын
We did this and it was hella fun. A friend wanted to try DMing with LMoP, us all being veteran players wanted to mix it up so we did a mono class party. The group was called "The A-men". Combat was trivial because we all had good AC and would chain guiding bolts. We luckily took out the dragon from the cover by combining path to the grave and a crit Inflict Wounds. We kept joking that one day we'd all be asked to make a DEX save and we'd TPK. The flame skull towards the end of the adventure almost managed it but we prevailed.