Durango Hellcat | See You in Your Next Life

[@JosephLombardi]

"Yell at your wife in the Applebee's parking lot" could be the best way I've heard the hellcat lifestyle described

[@obsoletecd-rom]

I spit out my coffee for the first time in my life after hearing that. That red interior is the icing on the cake. The writing on this episode was spot on.

[@R17759]

That and doing burnouts in suburban neighborhoods at 3am

[@fredwilliams7893]

Sounds like some of you live in the hood! Up in my rural area they are almost nonexistent!

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

While wearing a wife-beater shirt?

[@obsoletecd-rom]

@@fredwilliams7893 you don’t have to live in the hood to see people acting like morons. And I imagine there aren’t many hellcat Durango’s in the hood either. More like the vineyard vine polo wearing man with pastel colors, expensive watch, and loafers with no socks.

[@vtr0104]

I trust AI Mark and its opinions wholeheartedly. For 110% unironically trustworthy vehicle purchase recommendations this is hands-down the best channel on this forsaken platform that, in my opinion, doesn't even deserve it.

[@xxxUPGRAYEDDxxx]

some of the worst uncanny valley i have ever seen... i wanted to just light it on fire.

[@jeffreid5998]

Honestly, I love this channel, but the AI Mark bit is played out. I do hope they move on from it sooner rather than later. Otherwise, excellent content as always.

[@josephcitizen4195]

@@jeffreid5998 "but the AI Mark bit is played out" ikr? Ditch AI Mark and bring back the AI gorilla

[@dariusallen7108]

“A BMW X7 with a GED”. I spit out my coffee with that one

[@Sub-Zero-392]

But it's faster than an x7

[@TheCldmstrsn]

I love how you guys are in your art house era right now

[@DS-nw4eq]

Gross. I’m still trying to find Mark’s Only Fans account.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

​@@DS-nw4eqAsk your mom, she is subscribed.

[@FinnishCarGuys]

Can't wait for the Film Noir version of Kia Soul.

[@kayakkevin]

Mark really has a poetic way of reviewing that no one else has. The way his body doesnt move is a little creepy, but im here for it.

[@acalthu]

Pretty sure that bit was AI. Both times.

[@cuy50]

you are explaining a joke to someone that is being sarcastic and already got the joke@@acalthu

[@johnreed1268]

Blacking out the speedometer during the launches was a good plan, well played.

[@dvaritek434]

No face, no case 😂

[@zigforjustice]

And the tachometer. Since if you know the gearing, you can figure out how fast it's truly going 🏎 💨 💨

[@cheapercharlie]

spreadometer? is that something that measures strippers?

[@off-roadingcars]

Common, they didnt go any faster than 55MPH, and I dont either

[@richardnavratil9661]

I always look for this and there's times when they don't :D

[@csmlouis]

Wow, this is the nirvana state of Mark on the passenger seat. So Zen, much supercharged.

[@joeamith838]

The SUV that makes car thieves and insurance agents giddy...

[@F40-c4i]

Don’t forget mechanics. Money makers.

[@faheemabbas3965]

Atlanta…

[@drunkpolack7612]

Well well well

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Really?

[@waylandchau9431]

And the oil companies!

[@briankuhn1747]

Thank you, Meatsack AI Mark, for your contributions on this topic.

[@realcreamofwheat7728]

That reaction from Mark when the price was mentioned is priceless!

[@CharletonTempletonStrong]

I do not respect me

[@thedownwardmachine]

I like how Mark speaks with the Zen calm of someone who knows how he’s about to die, and has accepted it.

[@dannoyes4493]

In a world where automotive reviewers are a dime a dozen, there exists a man unlike any other-a gentle giant named Jack Singapore. Standing at a colossal 6+ feet tall, with hands that could cradle an entire steering wheel, Jack Singapore has leveraged his extraordinary size and engineering prowess to ascend to the echelons of the world's greatest car reviewers. To say his reviews are unique would be an understatement; they are a delightful blend of playful charm and insightful analysis that leaves car enthusiasts clamoring for more. Jack Singapore's reviews are an amalgamation of meticulous engineering insights and an unquenchable passion for cars. His towering presence provides an almost cinematic quality to his videos, with him effortlessly dwarfing even the most colossal of SUVs. Yet, his gigantic size is not a gimmick; it's a tool he uses to give viewers a unique perspective on every vehicle he reviews. But Jack's engineering acumen shines through as he dissects each car's mechanics with surgical precision. He'll open the hood of a car like a giant discovering a treasure chest, and with an earnest expression, he delves into the mechanical intricacies, explaining dynamic intricacies in a way that makes it accessible to car enthusiasts of all levels. What truly sets Jack Singapore apart, however, is his presence. His reviews are more than just technical breakdowns; they are narratives, each car a character in a larger automotive story. He regales his viewers with tales of the road, weaving a whimsical yarn as he cruises the highways of life, as if he's inviting his audience on a magical journey, where cars become more than just machines-they become companions. Jack's monkey-based catchphrases are legendary in the world of car reviewing. Yet, beneath the larger-than-life persona lies a deep respect for the automotive industry. Jack Singapore takes his role as a reviewer seriously, understanding the impact his words can have on consumers' choices. He tirelessly researches each vehicle, seeking to uncover its strengths and weaknesses, so that his viewers can make informed decisions. In a world where automotive reviewers often blend into a sea of voices, Jack Singapore's towering presence and engineering expertise make him a standout figure. His approach to car reviewing not only entertains but educates, leaving a lasting impression on those who seek his wisdom. Jack Singapore, the gentle giant of car reviewers, has transformed the automotive landscape, one review at a time, and continues to captivate the hearts and minds of car enthusiasts around the world. Out here in the hinterlands, there is nothing but respect. Well Done.

[@CarlVandenberg]

Sincerely, Jack's Mom

[@romanovmarkelyon1021]

Under rated comment

[@josephcitizen4195]

Jack? Is that the gorilla looking one?

[@constructionbootgazer]

Jack “Tremendous” Singapore

[@ChoPi-Eww]

Simulated AI comment! Yes!

[@maximeparent3004]

AI Mark is nightmare fuel and i like it.

[@MT-eb2dx]

I don't 😂

[@brendonhedrick3219]

Am I the only one that feels that four corner double wishbone suspension is oddly exotic for this big thing?

[@andrewlangley9507]

No, you're not.

[@jabariphillips8855]

Yeah my eyes 👀 had to do a double take on that under the hood scene. And considering the platform is ancient.

[@TML34]

It's double wishbone in the front, not the rear, however. It ain't no Miata. 😅

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

I WISH for it on my next car.

[@RamCruiserOverland]

The suspension under this really is copy-paste from a 166 Mercedes ML/GLE.

[@Bk71290]

Neighbor has one. Those kids know they are the most badass kids at school drop off

[@Andrew-pv8oz]

They are the coolest kids in the grocery store parking lot for sure

[@GQ08]

“Mark, now that you’ve stepped out of AI mode, what do you think of this car?” “How much is this thing?… I don’t respect you” Dead 😂

[@richardnavratil9661]

You guys are magicians in relaying virtually all that needs to be said about the vehicle and brand in under 9min. I know you've already had your video(s) on this one, but all the points Jack raised make so much sense. These days, there's going to have to be something the manufacturer brings to the table when everything is the same bland egg-shaped EV SUV.

[@MasterMalrubius]

You will buy your egg-shared SUV and you will like it.

[@richardnavratil9661]

@@MasterMalrubius I ain't sharing my SUV with an egg! :D

[@WhiteLivesMatterPL]

@@MasterMalrubius This message is WEF approved

[@bobvance-]

I guess that's one thing. Once it becomes nothing but EV's they will have to try something different. Ball massager perhaps?

[@i_sniff_blue9569]

These guys are magicians in relaying virtually.

[@117johnpar]

13mpg used to be really optomistic for any SUV. I remember riding around in my friends dads Expedition and hearing it gets 6mpg.

[@TheScrubmuffin69]

He had a lead foot then because my v10 excursion would get 8-9 average lol

[@johnhowardesq]

My 57 Buick Roadmaster got 6-10 mpg. It was a monstrously inefficient beast. I’m shocked anything built in modern times could be such a pig.

[@phrodendekia]

It hauls ass though, I guess theres a price to pay 😂

[@johnhowardesq]

@@phrodendekia So did the Buick. I accidentally smoked the tires by pushing the accelerator more than half way. It startled me, and my neighbor laughed his ass off. It was an honest 300 horse engine, and geared to accelerate. banker’s hotrod.

[@overbuiltlimited]

I know right? My old GX470 got 12 and it sure as hell didn't have a 3.2 sec 0-60 time.

[@169abr]

The best part is your neighbors can come over and test drive these with ease, even if you’re not there!

[@S8ER]

This was both hilarious and hurt me at the same time. 😂 😂 😂 ☠️

[@oOgy172]

Dodge should sell a “Atlanta edition” or “Oakland edition” like all the Texas edition pickups sold in texas

[@169abr]

@@oOgy172 “Atlanta edition, no windows so you don’t have to worry about the broken glass”

[@Fahadfk8]

I love the new AI inspired Mark 😂

[@theCycleReport]

The carjack closing… a+

[@TheDGeneration]

I'm not usually one to comment before watching...but I'm glad you guys were able to get another one of these for review.

[@qx4n9e1xp]

The way Mark sits during the drive in this video is EXACTLY how I sit, facial expression and everything, in someone's cool car as they're driving me around. It's me vibing to having truly made it. "Made it" as in, I get the privilege to enjoy an automobile with a good buddy, and I feel safe with them.

[@TeXasDadBod]

I had a black with red interior and I once had to turn into a parking lot at 70 mph to avoid a huge accident with some cars I pumped the breaks turned in the direction I was sliding and it effortlessly drifted into the parking lot tires screeching and stopped safely like it’s was a normal turn . This vehicle is always going to hold a special place in my heart for that .

[@calebj2886]

what road has a 70mph limit and store parking lots 🤔

[@Qugie]

@@calebj2886 no one said he was driving the legal speed. 😜

[@Turbomorph]

This is one of the few channels that I'll watch the whole video from begging to end because it's so entertaining. Keep up the good work.

[@mobeenshafaat07]

Mark is so funny😂 he puts a smile on my face after a hard day at work. Love him ❤

[@kingpeasant5099]

Savage Geese. Unmatched, undeafeated. Simply the best. YEAHHH!

[@Tritonal92]

It's hilarious... whenever I see a Durango on the road, a portion of the rear tail light bar is burnt out lol.

[@ozzybc.]

What an amazing 90 minutes that was. Great effort, beautifully detailed video and tons of info. You guys rock. Minutes flew by. Thank you all for putting it together.

[@hMint]

The ai segments and Jacks npc idling while Mark gives praise about the world’s highest rated award; JD power. Was amazing

[@foadrightnow5725]

I love the cynical nature between you two! You two are synergistic!

[@tomservo4864]

Why doesn't this channel have 1M subscribers yet? C'mon, folks. Let's kick those numbers up!

[@matthewm3912]

We owned a 2017, and 2019 druango RT. We loved them both. I still think they are the best most "muscular" looking 3 row SUV out there. We loved everything about it. The trans was super quick and it shifted exactly how i wanted it to. It would down shift and engine brake like a boss when towing down hill. It was athletic to drive, it was basic, simple, comfortable yet had apple carplay and a big screen and actual buttons. SO many good things about it. I'd get 500 miles out of a tank with highway driving no problem. LOVED those things.

[@little123456788]

Any reliability issues?

[@Qugie]

ok then what 3 row SUV you think looks muscular?

[@matthewm3912]

@@little123456788 Never one. Never skipped a beat.

[@Mdgld]

Why’d you get rid of them?

[@matthewm3912]

@@Mdgld Our family outgrew them!

[@zcallis1]

This was hilarious.. in the greatest way possible. Greatest description of Dodge owners ever.

[@drewhumphrey]

That's crazy how the speedometer goes away when you launch it!

[@F510C]

Lol

[@MrRezQ]

Let’s use this comment as a moment of silence for the V8 as a whole, and the 6.2 supercharged specifically :(

[@faheemabbas3965]

and Dodge.

[@valiantone395]

You'll own nothing and be happy

[@stoneeh]

@@valiantone395 own nothing, take ze shot, eat ze bugs, pay ze rent.

[@heimatliebe116]

As a German, I approve of this message…!

[@pjw7007]

Probably your best video yet! You completely capture exactly why someone would buy this in a humorous way without any explanation.

[@drivingprophet]

Really liked the final thoughts being outside. Something about the lighting that kept my attention. Great video guys!

[@noahgreenhouse]

Amazing review as always, gentlemen. It is truly a special SUV that is one to remember for sure. I couldn't agree more on the comments about Dodge as a brand moving forward. I remember roughly a year ago they were displaying their new EV muscle car, and I heard the fake noise pumped through speakers and just thought it was the most corny thing I've ever seen done to a vehicle since the MTV "Pimp My Ride" days. I'm not sure Dodge will survive as a brand with their already negative public perception. They are replacing what made their cars special with gimmicks, and I don't see it working long term.

[@faheemabbas3965]

Oh yeah they’re dead company now. It’s only a matter of time.

[@Superfastjellyfish669]

What’s a special piece of 🗑️ 😂

[@ghoulbuster1]

Stelantis is sacrificing dodge to the EV dystopian future they want for us.

[@tanpen15]

This is your best video ever... The launching while talking... blacking out the speedometer... the seemingly robotic stat lines LMAO

[@Twashington215]

One of the best MUSCLE final reviews hands down!!!! Very entertaining, great job with stopping, reviewing and smashing the gas pedal.... Loved it💪🏿

[@j.redbeard99]

It's funny how much faster the digital speedometer moves than the analogue. I will miss the Charger, Challenger, 300, and Durango when they're gone. The Camaro too. A good review from Savage Geese, as the V8 sadly heads toward extinction.

[@valiantone395]

You'll own nothing and be happy

[@scf685]

Durango will be here for at least 2025--at least in police versions. The 3.0TT will replace the 5.7.

[@j.redbeard99]

@@scf685 That makes sense, though the Durango needs an update.

[@Mshi-]

Damn the environmentalists

[@macaron3141592653]

This car is ridiculous but the noise on throttle in the interior is absolutely sublime. It sounds better than a mustang.

[@andoniades]

How mark talks without moving his chin is phenomenal!

[@WpnX81]

My coworker bought one... it hadn't spent a week in his possession before its first trip back to the shop for infotainment and transmission issues... I guess "initial quality" is a week

[@ADUSN]

Stellantis makes cars for people with credit scores below 600

[@PonyFoot123]

Not even surprised

[@finwaydiddy1977]

Great video… still loving my 2020 Charger Hellcat WB. The sound will never get old and the car characteristics just make it so enjoyable.

[@moneyblade5]

Debating between maybe picking up a Hellcat WB or a Camaro ZL1.

[@andrewlangley9507]

@@moneyblade5 ZL1-1LE if you foresee the possibility, that you may at some point want to turn at speed.

[@raymco5]

@@andrewlangley9507 Hellcat WB Chargers corner surprisingly well. We all know the car is heavy on stereotype for, among other things, being one dimensional, i.e. an unsophisticated straight-line burnout machine. Not so. Drove a WB Charger HC for a week including on empty canyon roads. It’s no Lotus, Porsche or even, yes, a ZL1 1LE but it can turn surprisingly well. The WB treatment with its suspension revisions and square tire setup makes a big difference.

[@cdbnum1]

Just bought one a few days ago I was considering the Rivian or the new Toyota sequoia but decided on the hellcat Durango it’s a beast!

[@gadeane287]

Monday mornings with a Savage Geese video is a great way to start the week.

[@rkalla]

5:17 super agreable head nods is HILARIOUS

[@rmerrida]

Anything with a Hellcat engine speaks to me on a primal level. 😈

[@somerandomfella]

One hell of a family vehicle 😈

[@MasterMalrubius]

At least you can be fast at escaping your responsibilities.

[@jefffaller8474]

With the added bonus of the kids being able to watch how Mom or Dad engage with the Police again on the side of the road.

[@j.6756]

Or meet all your friends and relatives... at the funeral of a 16 year old son... who took dad's viper...and launched it across three lanes of highway traffic... as he acclerated while getting up to speed on the on ramp... and sent the vehicle airborne.... (Bridgeport Road onto Hwy 85 N) Muscle cars... the cars that don't require any brains... just testosterone... to get you free flowers....

[@12ealDealOfficial]

Durango Hellcat: For the man who leads state police on a cross county chase for expired tags, but winds up having 25lbs of fentanyl in the trunk.

[@PKDionysus]

This, more than any other American, is the one I truly wish came to my country (South Africa). I am a SUCKET for massive SUVs, and before, the Ford Excursion was the one. Once this thing was released, I fell in love. The death of massively impractical, massively worrisome, yet massively enjoyable engines is truly heart breaking. V8's and V12's are being relegated to annals of history, but some of us will never let them fade away from memory. Fucking loved this.

[@flurpoid]

Have you seen the Cadillac Escalade V? Thing is also incredibly fast but even a bit bigger than the Durango.

[@spade118]

Never really thought nuch of Dodge as a brand.... rented and R/T Durango and i was like ok i get the appeal. The V8 and exhausts made smile. I definitely now appreciate them. Own them no but whenever I see I know the person who gets a V8 Dodge appreciates something special

[@imaheatfan]

For years, Mark has complained about the auto industry producing soulless products. And I'm with him. Yet ironically, i find Ex Machina Mark to be a very entertaining product.

[@TypeTuber]

If these don't get all ratted out (they will). This is going to be a future classic.

[@schylersmith1223]

Absolutely love my 21 Durango Hellcat.

[@viper306m]

It's sad that the Govt has decided we are no longer able to have fun with vehicles.

[@PianoBlackTrimRep.]

I'm waiting for the Pacifica Hellcat.

[@eltrouble]

I will never tire of AI Jack, AI Mark, Gorilla Jack, B58 Jack, TuxMat meatball ads, none of it. 😂

[@samarkand_nights]

You guys have reached enlightenment

[@akik1985]

This is the best review I have ever seen.

[@adk7962]

Jack’s YEAAAH! at the send sums up this car.

[@TheeneF]

This video is so cool because AI Mark looks like Henry Cavill at the beginning of Justice League! No insult intended I think SG is the best car review channel out there. Bring Thomas and James on as guests please.

[@audiwankenobi361]

I just can't describe the awesomeness of what I just watched on this one.....

[@markcoopers1930]

The 4 cars Chrysler-Dodge are left making are pretty neat in their segments (the Charger 300, Challenger, Durango, and Pacifica. The issue is that all of their budget after Hemi development (which is undoubtedly awesome) goes into special edition paint/vinyl marketing and carbon credits. The Pacifica shouldn't be the most original chassis in their lineup, and yet here we are. Even a few bucks into changing the Chrysler 300's interior to be the "premium" brand they're hoping people think they are instead of a carbon copy of the Charger but with a clock stamped in he dash would have cut down on the jokes. Chrysler - Dodge is just a marketing company.

[@bbbt8090]

What is crazy to me is if you drive the Acura MDX Type S hard,, it gets similar MPG to this Hellcat....

[@MrDehBoss]

Well I think you are misunderstanding. If you drive this like an ahole, you will get 5-7mpg.

[@ghoulbuster1]

@@MrDehBoss Sounds like a good trade-off

[@MikeYurbasovich]

I don't know about that. I have the tlx type s. I average 24mpg. I mix it up. The mdx has got to be within 2mpg..

[@bbbt8090]

@MrDehBoss The thing is, I do drive like a asshole. Not trying to get you going, but that's the truth, lol. I currently have a 2018 MDX Hybrid and plan to upgrade to a MDX Type-S in a years time, but the mpg review from youtube journalists are in the 15-19 mpg range. On the forums, some owners average 19-24 mpg depending on driving style.

[@bbbt8090]

@Mike-lt6sj I have a family of 3 and soon to be 4, so I'd like to be in the 24 mpg range. The 21's on the Type-S is killer big

[@AlexandreCardinal50]

You guys keep getting funnier 😂 I don't know how you come up with all that stuff

[@_Makanko_]

Strapping fella with the Arby's bag on his head wins out big time with this soon-to-be legendary vehicle.

[@Shaunbonzer5]

Best video yet. I was cracking up at that brake stand.

[@Jst4vdeos]

A dodge? Itll probably hand deliver you to the next life

[@5kastubh5]

Smile it puts on when you put your foot down is worth remembering for long time.

[@slipperyeel9206]

Ai mark is so insightful and authentic

[@billyhughes9776]

Regarding the fuel "economy" with this one -- I own a'15 4Runner that I'm very happy with, but I'm lucky if I get 17 mpg. I don't have nearly the power and potential for fun this one has,...it's ridiculously badass, but, that price tag. Lol....

[@S8ER]

I've had the pleasure of owning one of these since 2021. Love the review and very happy you guys were able to review it again. Launching these turns out to be non-trivial and takes a ton of practice... I've managed 3.4 to 60 (3.23 with rollout subtracted like the magazines do) and 11.5 @ 118mph.. if you don't launch with boost using the torque reserve system you will see 12s every time but when you get it sorted out mid 3s to 60 and high 11s are very repeatable but it took me nearly a year to figure out how to launch it with the best results. 🍻

[@senseicorey9979]

That's absurd. My friend had a 2003 cobra that ran 11.7s consistently. This thing being that fast is scary!

[@S8ER]

@@senseicorey9979 in stock form the 2003 Cobra was a beast, Evan Smith himself (I believe a record that still stands for fastest bone stock) ran 12.43 @ 113. It’s mind blowing to me just how fast everything is now.

[@senseicorey9979]

My friend modded it a little and was making approx 550hp at the crank. It so fast.....being the passenger was scary in ways I'd never experienced

[@S8ER]

@@senseicorey9979 those cars were very raw.. the only thing crazier to ride in is a foxbody with 500hp imho 😂 great cars!!!

[@senseicorey9979]

@@S8ER my brother had one of those with a 5.0. Young men were dying in those things left and right back in the day hahah

[@johnkonzik6693]

I have never seen mark so alive...ever

[@WorldWideWebb98]

This video makes me so sad. We are leaving the greatest generation in automotive history in the past very soon. All of my generation from late 90s to now will look back on this forever just like the older generations look back on the 60s… Big sad

[@TheMW2informer]

It really pisses me off as a younger person that my mid life crisis won’t be fulfilled with a loud V8, lord knows how much one of these will cost in 30 years let alone cost to operate, if that’s even allowed.

[@kc8262]

How did I live before finding this guy(these guys) back in 2016 researching ridgelines and finding Mark tossing hot dogs in its trunk

[@guillermopacheco5005]

Man that thing really puts it down

[@baldheadlogic]

This review made my Monday. 😂Two thumbs up.

[@LearnEnglishwithJames.]

Can I just say, you two are great together! You're rapport is great to watch.

[@SuperNova23333]

Such an insightful conversation in the car.

[@Quantum_Tator]

I love how F*cking weird you guys can be. Truly the best level of entertainment.

[@BadPhD777]

$108K?!? Absolutely nuts.

[@jasonmurdoch9936]

Well said great video I definitely agree about the quality in the long-term of any Dodge or Chrysler product for sure

[@GUNMETALGUYUSA]

2 Dudes Having Way 2 Much Damn Fun

[@churchofmarcus]

Dodge is a brand for people that like to drive. They can continue to survive the electric era by being different like they are now. The worse thing they could do is release a blobby electric CUV. Seeing as thier first EV is a big coupe. I think they have the right idea.

[@IamTheOppressor]

On a serious note, Dodge is a company that should be looking at big power hybrid stuff to replace their Hellcat lineup and maintain their novelty that way. Like yall have been saying a lot this year, these commodity EV cars are all gonna be the same. Is anyone even gonna be making hybrids?

[@hotshtsr20]

I see Jack's trip to Socal brought him down to Julian. That pie is excellent, esp with cinnamon ice cream.

[@landonjennings-stoyles9804]

That ending!

[@casweeden]

a car review video having me in tears... kudos

[@718Insomniac]

You two.....are hilarious. I got a jay and silent bob vibe on this one. Good review as always

[@anotheran]

When it’s a non Toyota/Honda/German suv, mark has checked out.

[@GotronFerret]

I'm keeping mine forever. Get one while you can!

[@The_Stanman]

I'm impressed how Dodge manages to make every interior look so cheap.

[@MLHunt]

One question I've not seen asked by the automotive press or CarTubers is how much of a role CAFE requirements played in Stellantis' decision to sunset Hellcat-equipped models. Unlike GM and Ford, Stellantis markets essentially no efficient models in the US, so its fleet avg fuel economy has to be a lot higher, and as a result those CAFE fines have to be killing them. Edited to add that Jack did mention this a bit obliquely in his final thoughts. Maybe Stellantis could have held on a bit longer, the way Ford and GM are, had they been able to sell some of their more efficient models in North America?

[@upshifter5316]

Respectfully I think it hasn’t been asked because it’s a bit obvious. If it weren’t for CAFE and other regulations we’d be enjoying the Yell at Your Wife in the Applebees Parking Lot lifestyle for at least a decade to come. Because in a world gone EV it would have been astounding marketing to serve the red-blooded V8 counterculture. Alas regulations make doing that business so crippling that even with huge demand and 6 figure prices for a commodity vehicle Stellantis still didn’t see a path to profitability with all the fines/credits they’d have to pay for. The other big loser here is Tesla who had grown happy and fat on the credits they sold to the Hellcat. Rand.

[@MLHunt]

@@upshifter5316 Yeah I suppose it is obvious. But then again if the media and YTers refrained from reporting on the obvious and only published thoughtful, incisive work, there'd be a lot less content. And to be fair, though it's not a topic I've seen getting very much coverage by automotive entusiast media, a quick search did find a single article by Jalopnik and TFLCar and a few others. There was more attention to the issue in the green and financial segments but even there I'm not seeing a lot, mostly me toos of the same 2021 NHTSA press release.

[@MLHunt]

@@upshifter5316 And BTW, "the Yell at Your Wife in the Applebees Parking Lot lifestyle" is a wonderfully evocative turn of phrase. Bravo.

[@bobvance-]

CAFE requirements are bullshit and have needed to change for a long time. It's the reason why there are no longer anymore smaller trucks available. Because they all would have to return 50mpg. This is a classic example of government setting arbitrary bullshit rules that have no bearing on reality.

[@securityconnections9497]

Z4 and this!?!? Heck yeah, gonna watch this tonight!

[@bonzocleach2496]

Great touch of realism at the end of the video!

[@demwillams8898]

I have a hard time believing that 13mpg was actual/observed over a full tank. Not that someone buying this really gives a crap about the mpg, but I fully expect mid to high single digit returns from this

[@7728abbott]

That was fun. Informative, and fun. Chuckle.