Durin's Folk | Wars of the Dwarves and Orcs - Tolkien Lore Video

[@konstakiviluoto1036]

Just as Thror has a grandson named Thorin, so Gror has a grandson named.... Dain Inronfoot I was expecting a dwarf named Grorin to appear, but that comedic pause was golden XD

[@gleikasantos8919]

damn the dwarves really suffered throughout all history. i love khazad-dûm and shed a tear when i learned that it was finally reclaimed by the dwarves. awesome video!

[@TenderTrap86]

I cant believe this video has so few views. What a great presentation this was. I have a strong affinity for the dwarves. My favorite race of Middle Earth.

[@tolkienuntangled]

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I feel like dwarves are very often neglected, but I too have a strong affinity for them!

[@AffectionateMaggot]

I completely agree. The dwarves are my favorite and this bro is an awesome presenter.

[@markfox2922]

Great presentation.

[@shinobifirecracker6671]

It has 21k. Lol ungrateful

[@donya716]

@@AffectionateMaggot finally , all my friends makes me feel weird because i really love dworves and Durin Folk !

[@colindunnigan8621]

"...and now we hear that Dain has fallen, fighting in Dale again, even as we fought here. I should call that a heavy loss, if it was not a wonder that in his great age he could still wield his axe as mightily as they said he did, standing over the body of King Brand before the gate of Erebor until the darkness fell.""

[@carlambroson8872]

Talk about mutual respect! King Dain and King Brand and their peoples fighting together to protect their cities! And likewise the love and friendship between the two kings! You can’t really love anyone anymore than giving your life to defend the dead body of you’re friend! Definitely my favorite friendship within the legendarium!

[@kbzzzzzzzz]

Jesus fucking christ. How have I only just discovered this channel??? Great content, it deserves more views. With the anticipation of the Amazon Series people are starting to be interested in the middle earth lore.

[@TheBaronAmaruPhoenix]

Same here stumbled unto it cannot stop watching the videos

[@ErmIDK19]

the sheer amount of amazing LOTR's art work never fails to surprise me , there's some truly wonderous stuff out there

[@az09234567890]

Your voice is very comfortable and detailed with emotion instead of a boring audio recording you did a wonderful job Untangled Good Job

[@ProfDrBaum]

Love how the Dwarfes where so Introverted that a whole kingdom could geturdered and decompose underground without Gimli knowing about it or the death of his own cousin.

[@shaunsocha421]

Holy shit when you put it like that 😂

[@Charmedsas1]

Here I am baffled by these stories. Tolkien really set out on making a front to back story for his people, leaving no stone unturned. How in the hell did he come up with these stories. OMG!!!

[@joshuafromwa5328]

Fantastic video! Well done. The dwarves are the unsung heroes of middle earth!

[@Winstakill935]

Loved this video. Dwarves are simply the greatest race in Tolkein's universe.

[@ryanratchford2530]

You are my favourite lotr channel

[@mikemike9888]

Wow man I really enjoyed this thank you! Best drwarven history video in youtube in my opinion.

[@lopirobinson1991]

It warms my heart that Legolas and Gimli became brothers basically and Gimli got to spend his last days in the Undying Lands with his best friend.

[@joemck74]

You've made me wonder - did Gimli actually die in the Undying Lands? I can't remember what the appendixes say.

[@lecktmich6780]

@@joemck74 Dwarves are a race which dies. And as the emissaries from Valinor told the Numenories not the land makes you undying it is only a land inhabited by undying beings. So Gimli has to die.

[@Tony-ih1pg]

​@@joemck74the Undying Lands are named so because Elves and Ainur live there, immortals. It doesnt make you immortal

[@freshhands9461]

So the Dwarves contemplated the correct approach to this insult for seven days. Then they gathered an army for three years and began systematically eradicating every mayor Orc stronghold from north to south, only stopping when the insult was avenged in appropriate matter. Guess that's what you get when pushing introvert craftsmen too far. Dwarven proverb: If it is worth doing, it is worth doing well :D

[@riccardoligresti4960]

Such good work and knowledge you put into this. The passion for Tolkien's work resonates with every word

[@AshiyaDylanSean]

here to binge all your videos.and i am beyond amazed!!! You are a great narrator bud!!! Thankyou for all your great videos!!!

[@fingerfeller]

found it very interesting, an excellent lesson on dwarves and orcs wars and lineages , thank you

[@AK.__]

Impressive story and the presentation. Thank you! When I think, what to watch, first I am checking this set of stories, and only after "what's new on Netflix".

[@tarlhall5149]

Great telling of the dwarves and orcs history

[@S0L12D3]

8:05 says the most depressing thing about Thorin’s life…. “Anyway” *LOL*

[@afuaioane1644]

Sir please include also lessons for Elven and Dwarven languages ☺ thank you.

[@hugotremblay4233]

Been in fantasy hobbies for the past 32 years and dwarves have always been my favourite race They are amazing

[@jessewilliams9195]

Awesome, thanks Rainbow Randy!

[@danwinger1865]

Great vídeo! Good job!

[@docsavage8640]

Dwarves got the shaft a lot. No wonder they had mines. Great video.

[@galenmarek384]

Dude your videos are perfect and you have a great voice.

[@keyboarddancers7751]

More Tolkien goodness! 22:15 Could you do a video on Tolkien's prophecies? Or has that been done before elsewhere?

[@dubuyajay9964]

What?

[@donya716]

thank you for the video i really was underestimating Dane and i was sad because Thorin died and didn't get to be king under the mountain but after this video i'm a little bit relieved , still OakenShield is my favorite king under the mountain but Dain was badass too . i really hope that you make a video about Aegnor and Andreth story i read it and i think you can tell it in much more awesome way that i imagened it although if you one day make the Aegnor and Andreth video please check luthien's lament by Eurielle

[@ulfgard4734]

First and foremost, thank you for this video! I must say, one thing that always perplexed me was about the Battle of Azanulbizar and the defense of Erebor during the War of the Ring is that the pivotal moments, if not the majority of the battles, occur outside the gates of Khazad-dum and Erebor, respectively. It always struck me as profoundly odd that for all the defenses Tolkien describes each of the Kingdoms is built to have, the majority of the pivotal battles take place beyond them. I do wonder how differently the course of Middle-Earth's history might have run had either defenders utilized their fortifications from the very outset rather than sallying out to fight the battle as a matter of course.

[@bloodangel19]

Well idk about Erebor but Khazad-Dum can be explained by the stupidity of orcs.

[@beowulfcole4173]

Don't the dwarves leave erebor (in the war of the ring, at least) to save the men of Dale from being wiped out by the easterlings

[@christianbull1909]

Love love love this episode

[@jdatkin8601]

As always, great thought put into the events that lead to the topic and the ramifications of the events that take place.

[@1423colin]

Love, love , love all your videos.

[@TheHeroRises]

I tell you, goosebumps!!!

[@mlebrooks]

Thank you.

[@joseaustin2692]

Awesome 👏🏾, keep up the great work

[@oisinofthefianna3246]

Amazing

[@LordStarFire]

a great video

[@0DD115]

the game shown in the startup screen in the first few seconds is so goated, battle for middle earth 2 on the pc big nostalgia game but i still find it fun lol

[@ianheins650]

Nice work dude

[@bruceadams820]

I so enjoyed this. One of your best.

[@TheRoguePrince0]

I wish we could get a live action or even animated movie about the battle of Dale during the war of the ring. It sounds so cool I hope we get to see it one day.

[@paulrhome6164]

Wondering how much Thranduril, and the Dwarves, were thinking of the story of Thror's death when he referred to them as beggars in his kingdom.

[@ozlozano9470]

Sad day that was for us that last day of Durin’s folk. The foundations of middle earth owe their building to the stalwart ness of the dwarves. Let us raise up our flagons and sing that lonely song of Erebor for the passing of Durin’s children.

[@shaunlan5193]

Another amazing video!

[@jennamorganbooks]

Can’t tell you how much I enjoy your videos, mellon! 🧝🏻‍♀️ ❤️ Thanks for all your hard work.

[@TheBaronAmaruPhoenix]

This dain guy just wowww

[@itayshorek6872]

wow that was an awesome video, thanks a lot

[@calico27]

'Azanulbizar' is a very satisfying word to say.. when you tongue has gone numb from drinking too many super chilled mojitos. Try it!

[@hixon2961]

ahh yes I remember when tolkien was writing about the battle between the gobbos and dawi. 2:06

[@RavensEagle]

Thanks for the video Something that would have helped allot is if you actually showed the map a couple of times to show where these places are on the map. And perhaps a visual timeline every now and then

[@Overworkedandunderpaid]

Love the inclusion of the warhammer image in there.

[@joemck74]

I always thought that, in both the Hobbit and LotR, the East Gates of Moria and the area outside didn't look much like the entrance to a huge and majestic palace/fortress/city of a race that loved to shape stone. It looks like an untouched mountainside, with not even a broken flagstone to suggest it the entrance to a mighty realm. I always thought the Hollin Gate was extremely small for even getting basic supplies for many thousands of folk (unless the dwarves were growing crops and raising herds within the halls of Khazad Dum?) and so the 'main' door must be much larger and easier - but that isn't what the films at least suggest. In fact - REQUEST TO TOLKIEN UNTANGLED ATCUAL - is there enough material for you to do an episode on food/meat/crop production by the races of Middle Earth? I realise it might 'rustle some jimmeys' since there was plenty of hunting, but I'd love to know how all these beautiful/sturdy/ and mannish? people fed themselves!

[@pwmiles56]

There is a small detail about the kingdom of Dale which I have never seen commented on. Viz, in 2977 Bard's son Bain becomes King of Dale. However in 3007 Bain's son Brand becomes King in Dale. After the battle in March 3019 Brand's son Bard II is also King in Dale. Why only King in Dale, not King of Dale? My guess is that, although Dale is a kingdom, its core territory i.e. Dale itself is held as a fief from the Dwarf-king in Erebor. There is a real-world example. Frederick the Great was crowned King in Prussia, not of Prussia, because Prussia was formerly part of Poland. (King of Prussia is a common pub name in England, also providing the name of a town in Pennsylvania, but it was technically incorrect in 1759 when Frederick became popular in England by being an ally against the French). Anyway I feel this opens up some interesting backstory. Maybe Bain offended the Dwarves by his claim, but Brand was wiser, and was rewarded by the friendship of Dain.

[@paulkelly2701]

Perhaps you'll do a podcast about the Nauglamir?

[@TheHollowTiger]

Dwarves have always been my favorite part of Tolkien’s world. Even if they’re very much an overlooked middle child in regard to in-universe lore, fans and writers. And their portrayals in film and small screen leave a bit to be desired; while enjoyable, don’t really convey the true spirit of Tolkien’s dwarves. But my love of dwarves, that almost guarantees they’ll be my favored race if they show up in a story/game, started with Tolkien.

[@miashinbrot8388]

I'd like to make a correction here. In general I expect you know far more Tolkien lore than I do, but this is one point I'm pretty sure of. When there is an accent over one of a pair of vowels in Tolkien's languages, as in the Dwarvish names Dáin and Thráin, as well as Elvish names like Eärendil, it means the two vowels are in different syllables. Thus, the pronunciation of those names would be [DAH-een], [THRA-een], and [ey-ah-REN-dil]. Tolkien has a pronunciation guide in one of the LotR appendices, so -- unless he changed the pronunciations at some point -- this would be how he intended the names to be pronounced. In fact, up till some time in the late 20th century, this was true in English as well. It shows up in words like coöperate and reëlect, and this would have been standard practice in Tolkien's era.

[@stormstrider1990]

The main campaign of LOTR: The Battle for Middle Earth 2 followed the War in the North. Although the game took a lot of liberties with the source material in regards to some of the heroes and units, the Battle of Dale was my favorite part.

[@Harly206]

Dwarves are bad ass

[@willdemi5618]

Dwarf king's, so stubborn and fearless they solo hardcore raids.

[@vilhelmthomsen1941]

As Ive been informed, a Balrog is really a Maiar, that has "shifted" into the form of a Balrog, inspired by their support of Melkor. What I have been wondering is: is there any lore, that suggests, whether or not, a Balrog can regain its Maiar-form? (whatever that is!)

[@davidthetraveler1466]

It's too bad that we don't see more of the dwarves' history. But I suppose it makes sense from a world-building standpoint. Still, I do find myself pondering....

[@foozballguy]

Which book talks about the last battle at Erebor?

[@tolkienuntangled]

LOTR appendices.

[@kenliljekvist255]

what is the Nauglemir? I thought it was the Dwarven equivalent to the silmarils.

[@Rekaert]

The Dwarves had a pretty rough time of it in Tolkien's world. Mt Gundabad, sacred birthplace of Durin was a tug-o-war over the second and third Ages, with Orcs taking it, Dwarves cleansing it, only for Orcs to retake it. Khazad-Dum was taken, and due to a certain fiery Maiar remained out of their hands until the end of the Fourth Age. Erebor was taken by Smaug. Nogrod and Belegost were heavily damaged when Beleriand was destroyed. Their halls in the Grey Mountains were attacked by Cold Drakes and the population there scattered. Perhaps the only real success in Middle-Earth were the dwarves of the Iron Hills, themselves exiles. It's nice that they got thrown a bone during the fourth Age, with the retaking of Khazad-Dum, the new realm in Aglarond, and of course Erebor by this point was retaken. I'd like to think they managed to retake Mt Gundabad, but I never found any reference to it in the Fourth Age from Tolkien.

[@morgant.dulaman8733]

Worth considering: this is the tale of Durin's folk. It may be that most of the other great dwarven clans were doing just fine...then again, those in the east probably had to deal with some kind of pressure from Sauron, but hey...one can hope?

[@nophdcoyote3635]

Perhaps the Arkenstone is of the neglected jewels that the ship elves threw on the ground? Or perhaps was conveniently carried to Middle-earth on one of the ships, misplaced in all of the chaos, and then found its way VIA rivers and such....

[@amh9494]

You can really see the inspiration Tolkien took from European Jews for dwarves when you list their calamities, after their early zenith it was disaster after disaster that they still managed to come back from to thrive in their new homes.

[@fiddleback1568]

Dwarves just couldn't hang onto a home.

[@eloisemizerik7615]

I have a question for Tolkien untangled. Would someone be able to destroy the one ring without falling to its power? I have always wondered about it.

[@tolkienuntangled]

Honestly, I don't think so. No one was more qualified to destroy the ring than Frodo, and I believe the fact that he can't do it, demonstrates that pretty much no one could.

[@crhu319]

Only Sam.

[@rainbowrandy1700]

Possibly Tom Bombadil, but that’s only really possible if he decides that it’s worth doing.

[@nategraham6946]

I suppose in Gimli's defense, a dragon is FAR stronger that an entire mountain range of orcs.

[@johnsykes9623]

The dwarves most important contribution Were the arms they produced. The elves were wonderful at their art, however, , many of the works of dwarves were unique to the dwarves and war

[@willdemi5618]

Man why is Azog so much more powerful than your average orc. This is what id expect of like the boldog had that been a more fleshed out concept.

[@willdemi5618]

I swear hes powerful to a point where I'm almost surprised he didn't have an ancestor who came into an evil wood heard some really awful howling and "forgot his people and his purpose" and there was an evil Maia..

[@willdemi5618]

Maybe a balrog slept with an orc who bolg was named after and that's how we got boldog. Lol

[@willdemi5618]

Ok I was obviously memeing, but weirdly take A Z O G and B O L G drop the (2nd occurrence of) doubled letters and alternate between names starting with B and you get B A L Z O G so closeee. Even it you left it be with the doubles you get baozlog, abzolog if you start the other way. I wasn't looking for anything either I just noticed you almost had all your letter for balrog or boldog just an interesting coincidence.

[@josemanuelluejebueno987]

What was doing Thranduil during the Battle of Dale? I know that the elfs of Mirkwood and Lothlorien was figthing against the forces of Dol Guldur, but why they don’t send any help to Erebor?

[@tolkienuntangled]

During the battle of Dale, there was another battle taking place in Mirkwood and featuring Thranduil. His armies were cut off from the armies of Dain and Brand.

[@thomaswalsh4552]

The armies at erebor and dol guldor wouldn’t have been able to get to Mina’s Tirith before the ring was destroyed, and so Aragorn and co would still be around to draw out Sauron’s army It would takes weeks to get from erebor to Mina’s Tirith, even at a good pace

[@KitOfTheWeirdWoods]

If Dain had seen Durin's Bane in Khazad-dum why did Balin retake it? Did no one think to tell him?

[@victordonavon292]

Because the calling to their ancestral homeland even if before the time is ripe can be insanely strong. I believe this was mentioned at Elrond's Council in the Fellowship of the Ring.

[@jeremymott]

Thrain did what many wise men would do by sitting in silent contemplation, because he didn't want to be rash

[@ratatataraxia]

Maybe, idk, don’t desecrate the bodies of your enemies. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@kennethburton2215]

Dwarves kick ass....hard steel and little magic

[@ivandovranic5834]

Hahaha, the Warhammer art depicting Tolkienian lore! The irony is strong with this one 😎

[@EderReis]

The dwarves suffered injustice from Tolkien, they suffered a lot since the beginning and were almost forgotten in their sacrifices.

[@mitchellcleveland6182]

Little too close to the mic

[@ThunderhawkVeronicaLazerwolf]

It was not in vain, that Dain was slain

[@willdemi5618]

Id watch that prequel, Dwarves vs Orcs. I feel like even amazon could possibly handle that. No wait... No.... Probably not.

[@willdemi5618]

Hey Dave do you have a personal take on Durin reincarnation vs more of a prophecy of sons of similar nature?

[@willdemi5618]

Never thought of this before, but imagine if Sauron had (made) evil eastern dwarves like Morgoths evil men. That would have been wild.

[@snear3os]

My question is what is the lifespan of this orcs and dwarves plus how come we are never told about their women folk? Hmmmmm

[@ΧρήστοςΠαπαδημητρίου-μ6π]

Bifur Bofur and Bombur were not of the longbeards.

[@ronaldreaganwasthedevil7443]

In world box a game god simulator there are 4 races like in lord of rings as it is the insoiration an the race most likely to get extinc are the dwraf is reallt funny because they are kinda strong but reproduce so slow that they get out number if you don't help.them

[@dizzlebizzle8424]

Dain is like Dine, not like Dane.

[@theelderhunter8856]

When you refer to their age by ‘dwarves standards’ I think that’s the incorrect way to look at it. Your scaling their ageing process to ours. Suggesting that their physical ageing is slowed therefore there mental ageing is as well. A 20yr old dwarf could have all the same physical and mental abilities as anyone that’s lived that long. And some 20yr olds can do some mind blowing shit.

[@tolkienuntangled]

To an extent I agree with you - it irritates me when people imply that a 100 year old elf only has the mental capabilities of a child (that's definitely not the case). However I mentioned Dain's youth in this video because that's exactly what Tolkien does. When describing the Battle of Azanulbizar, Tolkien wrote that Dain's deeds were "held a great feet, for Dain was then only a stripling in the reckoning of the Dwarves".

[@theelderhunter8856]

@@tolkienuntangled I can dig that. Thanks for taking time to respond!

[@michaellovecat]

But I don't want the magical races to disappear, they are what makes middle earth the coolest sometimes. Just left with men, who have good characters but definitely least favorite race. Mainly because I've seen the dumbest of our people

[@leichtmeister]

Any reason you ignore all the accents that tell you, how to pronounce names? :D Na-In, Da-In ;)

[@scottmccrea1873]

No, no, let's throw all the proper shade at the Hobbit movies! Jackson jumped the shark with these. More seriously, for me Smaug is (arguably) Tolkein's weakest character. As in most fantasy stories, dragons are absurdities. They make no sense. Why do you conquer? Power, wealth, women. Smaug has no interest in power. He makes no attempt to rule the men of Dale, for example. Why does he conquer the Lonely Mountain? The reason to seize treasure is to spend it. What's he going to spend it on? He doesn't appear to even need to eat. So *why* do it? As for females, there don't seem to be any female dragons... In other words, there's no legit motivations for Smaug. And the ease with which he's killed makes him something very rare, if not unique, in Tolkein's work - a plot device.

[@crhu319]

Smaug is literally the USA.

[@scottmccrea1873]

@@crhu319 That's a remarkably silly statement. The so-called government of the US - like that of Communist China - is silly, stupid, incompetent. Smaug was none of those things.

[@oscarstainton]

This entire mind-numbing dscourse makes the Titanic's sinking look like a picnic.

[@dog-thebackwardgod]

Please throw shade at the Hobbit movie! PLEASE PLEASE any vid you make thrashing that piece of garbage I'll like and save as a favorite to re-watch, over and over again.

[@XAIRSIGIL]

I’ll say it since no one else will, Jackson’s movies SUCKED

[@matthewhenson2585]

Lgbtq-tip

[@fredrickseiler4492]

Peter Jackson's Tolkien movies COMPLETELY SUCK. ALL OF THEM. They are an INSULT to the books.

[@oscarstainton]

Amazon psyop.

[@ZyrusSmith]

This video was too long. Halfway through it, I got hungry so I left it playing and went to the kitchen to fix myself a sandwich. But then I found out that I'm out of mayonnaise so I went to a store. There, I saw the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in my whole life. But I'm a really shy person so I took up a three-year personality development course so I could introduce myself. She was very friendly and all, but unfortunately, she had a boyfriend. So I said, all good, I'm a mature person. I wanted the best for her and I harbored no illusion that I am the best person for her and she seemed happy with her boyfriend, so I didn't bother her anymore. But we kept in touch and we became friends and I got over my crush on her. Then she broke up with her boyfriend, we drank some alcohol because of it. I told her she'll be fine and I wished her well. I still think she's the most beautiful woman in the world, but like I said, I am over my crush on her. It was like five years already since I first saw her. Besides, I am quite happy with the friendship I developed with her. It was more important than a crush. So we kept hanging out, drinking, having coffee, and all. I had a girlfriend, she started dating other guys. My girlfriend wanted to live some other life without me in it, so I said, "Okay, I want the best for you and I want you to pursue your happiness." My lady friend and I drank alcohol about it, and she gave me the same advice I gave her when she was in that position and I became okay with the breakup immediately. But we were really drunk, so she spent the night in my apartment. I only have one bed, so you know what that means: She took the bed and I slept on the couch. But on the couch, I really can't sleep. Something was bothering me. So I tossed and turned for about three hours, then I finally couldn''t take it anymore, I stood up and went straight to my room where she's sleeping. I approached the bed, gently sat on it and I reached for her shoulder to pull her closer to me. She stirred and woke up. She asked what's up. I told her, "you know, the first time I saw you, I was watching a video and left it playing to get myself a sandwich then went to the store to get some mayo then I got so distracted by life that I forgot to finish the video." She said, "You know what, I've been wondering about a weird noise in your night drawer." So we opened that drawer, and lo and behold, there's my phone and this video still has two minutes of play time on it.

[@rogersmith3657]

There are, of course, other video channels perhaps more suited to your royal highness' refined tastes. May I hold the door for you? 😀

[@matthewhenson2585]

Try to sound like a strait and strong male when you narrate you have a woman's tone and lisp its not very attractive to listen too

[@tolkienuntangled]

Haha, I'm not at all ashamed to have a woman's tone 😂

[@matthewhenson2585]

@@tolkienuntangled are you a woman who is trying to have a mans voice it sounds like a 13 year old girl going through puberty

[@jamesreed4229]

@@tolkienuntangled you made a phenomenal video. Don't sweat the weak words of small boys, you got yourself a new subscriber!

[@rogersmith3657]

@@matthewhenson2585 insecure of our own sexuality are we? The only people who would be bothered by things like that are the closeted. It doesn't even occur to "real men" IF someone looks/sounds/acts like a "real man". Maybe take a nice nap and wake up to the real world where nobody cares about those things! 😃

[@matthewhenson2585]

@@rogersmith3657 but we live in this world and its lame af there's only 2 sexes that exists when ppl are born male and female but still some people are so ignorant and make up silly genders in quite secure as a strait male and frankly your response was weak so go on with your gay ass