The Dragons of Middle-earth | Lore Video

[@BastaGenug]

you would think the dwarves would eventually wise up and stop putting out so much dragon bait. Maybe switch to mining clay or coal.

[@risaalshaan]

Or diamonds

[@albussr1589]

Iron. You know, an actually useful material

[@Mrcaptainmorgan93]

Could you imagine being a dragon, fighting and burning thru legions of dwarves, make it to their treasure room and fine clay.

[@hrodvithit]

Wasn't their greed for hoarding riches related to the influence of the rings of power?

[@Mrcaptainmorgan93]

@@hrodvithit I think they were already kind of greedy and the rings made it to a almost stupid amount of greedy

[@r8dj]

I would argue that stories of dragons have always been a part of lore, incorporated by all cultures of the world ...Hercules & the Hydra, Thor & Jörmungandr, Indra & Vritra, Nezha & The Sea Dragon, even St. Michael & The Dragon. Tolkien merely fed that intrinsic fascination we have all had since the dawn of our ancestors, which is yet another reason why his writings are so masterful.

[@scottmccrea1873]

Chinese dragons are very different notmusally portrayed as savage murderous monsters.

[@pinochet7446]

Nope, not from the world. Just from Europe, specifically Western Europe.

[@hodgrix]

Legend of St George and the Dragon, etc. And yes I also find it so interesting that so many ancient cultures both western and eastern have dragons. Mesopotamia, China.. you're right there is an intrinsic fascination with dragons whether they represent good or evil

[@neeldatta3170]

@@hodgrix I reckon it’s because we’d stumble across giant dinosaur fossils and just assume our ancestors had to deal w some sort of dragon like beasts

[@markislivingdeliberately]

@@pinochet7446Mexico had flying serpents as did China. Not the same kind but it’s funny we have stuff like that. I’d imagine mountain fires that usually go up in a line and lightning have something to do with it.

[@marleyjr00]

Let's just admit that Ancalagon the Black is the most badass dragon from all fiction.

[@tolkienuntangled]

I'll agree to that!

[@therealelderking5830]

*is introduced *dies next paragraph *breaks the three peaks of Thangorodrim in his ruin *refuses to elaborate

[@poochersmontgomery8825]

I always assumed when he fell from the sky he had been moving. So he didn't fall straight down on top of three mountain tops simultaneously in my head. He had been moving and the momentum as he was falling meant he crash through them as he was falling. Boom hits the tallest then boom the next tallest then boom breaks the last tallest. He was just big enough to do that kinda destruction not literally as big as the destruction 🤔

[@jeffagain7516]

I like that train of thought. Also, I seem to recall that the peaks of Thangorodrim were not actually "mountains" in the strictest sense but actually volcanic slag heaps from the delving of Angband by Morgoth. So as robust as they undoubtedly were, they did not have quite the same "backbone" as a true granite mountain.

[@marhawkman303]

@@jeffagain7516 and another thought... we're never told HOW Ancalagon the Black was slain. Maybe it was like in DBZ and it was a magic cannon that blasted Ancalagon through the mountains? One of the few things we know is that the man who did it was flying some sort of airship and used that to defeat Ancalagon. But... we don't really know what weapons and armor the ship had.

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

@@marhawkman303 I always thought he stabbed Ancalagon with the ship as if it was a knife.

[@marhawkman303]

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Hmm... perhaps. But how do you kill a dragon like that? hmmm gotta make it hold still somehow?

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

@@marhawkman303 It was f$cking flying ship man, it probably ran at the speed of light due to some Valar magical $hit.

[@thesilentguardian3243]

In my honest opinion I firmly believe that there still are some great dragons of Middle Earth that reside in the far north of the Weathered Heath though more than likely that the dragons are of the Cold-Drake variety of dragons.

[@richardsmall8940]

i wonder could tbey handle the dragons of Dragonlance/D&D as they seem to have the strongest or at least most resistent to magic and high physical durability

[@marhawkman303]

@@richardsmall8940 Or Ghidorah? :D hahaha. Now one thing to note is that... It's not actually said Smaug is the last of the Fire-Drakes, but the last of the GREAT fire-drakes. Soo... much smaller dragons that breathe fire might exist. BUT the intensity would be less than that of the Great Fire-Drakes. And yeah, it's definitely true that there were more Great Drakes... but "Cold" drakes.

[@dowogenesthedog7186]

Dragons aren't really mate.

[@therealelderking5830]

@@marhawkman303 well if we are to believe that rather (in)famous artwork of Ancalagon, Ghidorah would seem puny in comparison.

[@degrelleholt6314]

I can't help but say that I always liked dragons and feel a bit of sympathy for them when they are killed. Richard Boone's voice for Smaug in the Rankin-Bass version of "The Hobbit" will always be for me, what Smaug and many other dragons sound like. "Lovely titles..."

[@jargalmaamh915]

thank you again for your video. it is quite interesting that in western, they demonsrate the dragons are evil (bad side) mostly. but if we look through eastern(asian) legends its quite different . Dragons display not evil mostly. Dragons are the symbol of power, eternity, sky etc thats how the asian legends display most of the time. As a mongolian , i have noticed some legends and tales of us,what we picture the dragon are not evil mostly( neutral way). Btw i really like dragons and their legenderiums.

[@tolkienuntangled]

I find it really interesting that European and Asian dragons have such different legends surrounding them, but in both cultures they're incredibly powerful and revered. I'd love to hear more about dragons in Mongolian culture.

[@jargalmaamh915]

@@tolkienuntangled in our old folk, dragons are the one of the 4 powerful aimals in the universe . there are 4 most powerful animals in the universe: tiger, lion, dragon and garuda.both dragons and garudas are mythical creatures which represent the heaven or sky. And the other 2 are tigers and lions which represent the earth or ground. i have known a very little about old folktales. there are more ...

[@tolkienuntangled]

@@jargalmaamh915 Thanks that's really interesting! I didn't know about garudas

[@sweeperboy]

@@tolkienuntangled Interestingly, the Garudas are spread across the various traditions from Hindu Mythology and via Buddhism into China, Mongolia, Indonesia and so on. They're great golden birds, somewhat eagle-like, and the original Garuda is a vast bird somewhat linked with the sun and is a demi-god. The Garudas also fight against their nemeses, the Nagas (somewhat snake/dragon like). You can see where I'm going with this... :)

[@marhawkman303]

@@tolkienuntangled I personally found it notable that even in Tolkein dragons aren't uniformly evil. Smaug was the last... because... once he had the Lonely Mountain... he stopped and decided he'd done enough. Smaug didn't live to kill, he just wanted a heap of gold to sleep on. Now, Gandalf was into the idea of killing Smaug. Why? enh.. best guess is the idea that Sauron could possibly convince Smaug to stop napping and kick ass. Gandalf was not fond of the idea of getting attacked by Smaug.

[@nillynush4899]

Fun Fact: Ancalagon can be found in Dark Souls 3, broken atop a mountain side.

[@Tazdingoyahahahahaha]

Haha while that is cool to think about as headcanon that is just an archdragon

[@dominiklange8382]

@@Tazdingoyahahahahaha Tbf it will probably be just an archdragon, but it could be a reference like several armors, weapons and bosses are to Berserk

[@tonyusa5509]

One of the best channels out there. If not the best one in Tolkien's work. Nice Job!

[@MrARock001]

It's interesting that Sauron was actually in mortal peril while Bilbo, bearing the One Ring, confronted Smaug, who could have incinerated them both in one breath.

[@nillynush4899]

I believe the One Ring can only be destroyed in the Fires of Mount Doom, with the very fire used to craft it. I think. So only poor Bilbo would have been cooked, the One Ring would have fallen off his ashen bones after revealing its black speech.

[@bookwyrmofthenorth]

Unfortunate, but no. The rings arent all made to the same caliber, and I belive they specifically state that there is no dragon, past or present, who could have melted the One

[@DadaNabhaniilanandaTheMonkDude]

@@bookwyrmofthenorth Correct. Gandalf is very clear about this in the Council of Elrond where he says that not even the fire of Ancalagon the Black could melt the One Ring.

[@albussr1589]

Is kinda daunting to think what would have happend if Smaug took the One into his hord.

[@MrARock001]

@@nillynush4899 4:28 suggests dragon fire is the only other flame hot enough to melt Rings of Power. Possibly this does not include the One Ring, but it would have been a strong flex if it had been!

[@marijeangalloway1560]

You missed one of Tolkien's most wonderful dragons, and perhaps his most enjoyable: Chrysophylax Dives, from the short story "Farmer Giles of Ham." All Tolkien fans should give themselves the great pleasure of reading this inventive and humuorous piece, in which he gleefully pokes fun at all the conventions of the fantasy genre he loves so much. Chrysophylax Dives certainly deserves an honourable mention, at the very least, in the list of Tolkien's dragons.

[@lopirobinson1991]

I’d often imagined races of men who worship dragons and bring them treasure as tribute, and maidens of course m.

[@lexonmurray1594]

The easterlings worship dragons I think

[@pelthain2385]

Eärendil be like: Ancalagon? More like Ancala-GONE

[@tolkienuntangled]

Haha I love it!

[@therealelderking5830]

Most badass dragon in Middle Earth.... lasts for the whole of two paragraphs.

[@DadaNabhaniilanandaTheMonkDude]

I think some mention of Chinese dragons might of interest here, though they have no place in Tolkien's legendarium. Dragons appeared in Chinese mythology more than 5000 years ago, long before the European dragon myths, though the different myths seem to have appeared independently. Chinese dragons (along with the derivative Japanese, Thai and Indonesian versions) symbolize wisdom, magic and good luck and were the official symbol of the emperor. There are different varieties related to the elements i.e. water dragons, air dragons, fire dragons etc. They are essentially benevolent, which is obviously in direct contrast with the European dragons. The lovely Falcor from Neverending Story (a German book) appears to be a cross between a Chinese dragon and a friendly dog...

[@f.q8684]

Exactly

[@alaranarmstrong3718]

Anyone who starts harping about "wyverns!!! Not dragon!!!" Needs to realize that there isn't a unified phylogeny of draconic figures. If the fiction calls it a dragon it's a dragon. I think this whole wyvern argument comes from D&D and everyone applying that to every other property for some reason

[@stevepilley]

not middle earth but it is Tolkien, might have been worth contrasting Chrysophyllax, the dragon in farmer Giles of Ham

[@billmcdonough3950]

It's not quite accurate to say that all of the named dragons were slain by mortal men. Earendil slew Ancalagon, and did so after Elwing prevailed upon him to cast his lot with the Eldar, not the Edain. So at that point... he's not a mortal man. At best, he's among the Half-Elven, but he's accounted among the elves.

[@DarcoChaos]

How to train your dragon is so much better in german, at least for me, because they all speak with a kind of Friesian accent and that makes me feel very comfy because in Schleswig Holstein, thats the part close to Denmark, a lot of people have a bit of this accent at least the old ones, so i basically grew up with it.

[@calico27]

Toothless is definitely the "one fictional character, I wish was real".

[@alfonsobredosis]

I think the dragons from Earthsea, written by Ursula K. Le Guin, need an honorable mention as well!

[@windalfalatar333]

I enjoy your videos tremendously, Rainbow Dave!!

[@noncare9079]

Not entirely sure here but I thought dragons have 4 legs while wyverns have two and use their wings as the forward legs

[@tolkienuntangled]

Yeah I believe that's the case in modern literature. Smaug in the Hobbit movies is designed more like a wyvern than a dragon. I believe though that the etymology for Wyvern comes from a french word that entered the english language after the Normans conquered Britain and overthrew the Anglo Saxons. And because Tolkien loved Anglo Saxon culture so much he rarely used words with a French etymology so I don't believe the word wyvern is used in his Legendarium. He does however does use worm or wyrm quite a bit, which may imply a more serpent like dragon.

[@noncare9079]

@@tolkienuntangled yes and also the word drake. Good reply this was

[@championsgaming1]

As it is said all wyverns are dragons but not all dragons are wyverns. Dragon is the overarching term for the type of beast.

[@alaranarmstrong3718]

That's a common misconception because there's no unified phylogeny of draconic figures. If the story calls it a dragon, it's a dragon.

[@Xxluxusxx]

Great video man!

[@ArcadiaNemetai]

The battle of sudden flame also involves the three peaks of thangorodrim erupting...lava, dragons, and balrogs.

[@garretttekampe9564]

Very good video. I was looking for more info on Tolkien's dragons. I was wondering if you would consider doing a video on the rings of power and what makes them "powerful" as well as what actual power someone had when they/Sauron possessed the One Ring. Someone asked me what made the One Ring so powerful and I had a hard time finding an answer. Power is something actual and not potential. The ability to do something, so I was lost for an explanation. Thanks for making these awesome videos!

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks for the great idea! I'll be releasing a new video for the next three weeks, but after that I need to take a bit of a hiatus in order to move house and do boring things. A video on the Rings of Power could be really interesting though.When I'm back to releasing videos, I'll definitely keep your suggestion in mind. Thanks!

[@garretttekampe9564]

@@tolkienuntangled Awesome Thanks for hearing my idea. We'll be eager to hear from you!

[@mlebrooks]

The problem with a huge and seemingly invincible dragon is how does a hero kill it in single combat? I think there are myths where they feed it something combustible disguised as food and when it eats it and it goes in its belly it burns or explodes on the inside. This is like hiccup observing they aren't impervious to fire on the inside. Another method of killing a dragon is to dig a small trench and hide inside. When the soft underbelly of the dragon passes overhead you can stab it from beneath where it is vulnerable. The soft underbelly of a dragon doesn't make sense for a flying monster only for a terrestrial one. It is like Tolkein imagined a cinematic climax because it is hard to shoot an arrow up and then to hit a tiny moving target while having the strength to shoot

[@hodgrix]

Tolkien definitely had a certain flare and taste imo for the ridiculous and dramatic even when he gives justification.

[@marhawkman303]

@@hodgrix yeah, Tolkein seemed to favor the idea of plot important weapons. Bard didn't use an ORDINARY arrow, he had a special magic arrow of Dragon Slaying. Perhaps the last in the world... without it... he would have failed. Even with it he had to hit JUST the right spot or even the Arrow of Dragon Slaying would have failed to get a kill, and merely wound Smaug. which would probably result in EVERYONE in the area getting roasted by dragonfire as Smaug gets even MORE pissed and goes on a murderous rampage.

[@therealelderking5830]

@@marhawkman303 I think Manwe might have meddled a bit there. There is no possible way an arrow, fired from a bow, can reach directly upwards with enough force to pierce a dragon’s heart....unless our friend the Lord of the Breath of Arda helps out a bit.

[@analog_kid1352]

@@therealelderking5830 Bard was told about Smaug's weakness in his scales, if I remember correctly (it's been a long time since I read the Hobbit) by a Thrush

[@Darkdaej]

Imagine if Bilbo had been killed by Smaug breathing fire on him...Sauron would have been destroyed there and then...

[@shawnthompson2303]

Dragon fire doesn't harm the Ring. Not even Ancalagon the Black. Gandalf says this to Frodo in Fellowship. (The book)

[@kaltra_AkTS]

@@shawnthompson2303I think he is saying that, no one is gonna dare go inside the mountain as long as the dragon is there , even go get the one ring

[@anthonyintexas]

I just watched this, and as always, enjoyed it very much. Also , I am the only person I know that still says "groovy". It was nice to hear someone else say it. :)

[@ninjammer726]

Thanks for the upload and do you have lore video on the Balrogs and watcher?????????????????????????????????????????

[@Shadowrulzalways]

When the books states he “drove the host of the Valar back” that doesn’t mean the Valar themselves were driven back. The “host” could mean their army. So it’s not descriptive enough to suggest otherwise.

[@billmcdonough3950]

Especially as the Valar didn't take the field themselves. The Host of the Valar was commanded by Eonwe, Herald of Manwe.

[@hugo-pg5tv]

Well didn't morgoth get chained again so atleast some valar was there

[@Shadowrulzalways]

@@hugo-pg5tv That was much after the battle. So the Valar weren’t in the battle. They arrived after the battle.

[@hugo-pg5tv]

@@Shadowrulzalways why? The valar doesn't have to lead the army and why wouldn't they fight when morgoth was destroying their armies with the dragons

[@Shadowrulzalways]

@@hugo-pg5tv Because Erendil was dealing with them. The book says the Valar sent their army. But they were never present.

[@AK.__]

The dragons, same as other devastating big creatures could only survive until they able to dominate in their areal, which is air for dragons. For their luck, elves and dwarwes pretty much stuck for ages in technical development....until came a men.

[@Crafty_Spirit]

Hi Dave :-) I've noticed that the entrance of Glaurung is shortly followed by Morgoth's duel against Fingolfin, in which the former almost makes a fool of himself. I like to think that during the ~300 years lasting siege of Angband Morgoth became increasingly desperate such that he dispensed at lot of his life essence into Glaurung. Exhausted from this feat he may have been particularly anxious at the prospect of duelling the high king of the Noldor. (Morgoth's self-destructive tendencies of spending himself on mortal beings and physical matter are compelling) It's fun to speculate on the connection between Morgoth and Glaurung. Though I think that the drake could act independently I also like the idea that he was infused with Morgoth's evil spirit such that when he converses with Túrin that Morgoth... kind of speaks through the dragon... What do you think how Morgoth and Glaurung are connected? 🐲 By the way, I read your comment on the possible origin of Glaurung. You say he may be a fallen Maia, but how can that be if he grows like a normal creature? Do not Maiar take the shape of full-fledged creatures and beings?

[@tolkienuntangled]

These are really interesting thoughts! To answer your last one first (about Glaurung being a Maia), it's a very good point that he physically grows stronger and bigger over time, which does seem at odds with a Maia. But then again, we know Morgoth can't create life from scratch. Maybe instead, he took some serpent like creature (I'm reluctant to say dinosaur, but that is kind of what I'm imagining) and then corrupted it and infused it with so much of his own power that it became what we now know as Glaurung. This does still raise a bunch of questions, but I don't think there is a simple or straightforward explanation for his origins. Maybe an evil Maia spirit was bound inside this animal body. I guess that would explain why Glaurung ages and grows like a mortal beast, but has an intelligent mind and powers that Morgoth is not capable of creating from scratch. Who knows? As for how Morgoth and Glaurung are related, I think you're pretty spot on. I really like the idea of Glaurung being Morgoth's agent and his voice, during the interactions with Turin. I suppose Glaurung is one of the deadliest parts of the curse of Morgoth on the children of Hurin.

[@Crafty_Spirit]

@@tolkienuntangled Always fun to read from you (also referring to the discussion about the Eagles), thank you 🌈 🦄 🌈

[@blakelane9292]

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[@marhawkman303]

@@tolkienuntangled by comparison... Smaug seemingly did what Smaug wanted and ONLY what Smaug wanted. F--- Sauron! :p Which is an interesting thought to ponder... were Dragons in Tolkien actually evil by nature, or did they get influenced that way? This goes back to the idea Melkor can't create life. No living thing in Arda was evil when it first came to be. Beings as intelligent as dragons especially so. Which makes you wonder..... Morgoth put a LOT of effort into making a race of powerful monsters... but they're not soul-less shells. they're beings who seemingly can choose what to do. could one of them have been a force of good?

[@therealelderking5830]

Morgoth also speaks directly through Glaurung to Morwen in Nargothrond. It proves that there is at least some degree of control by Morgoth.

[@davidthetraveler1466]

It's interesting to think of what modern fantasy would be like without Tolkien not just putting out his own sub creation but also prolonging the older traditions of European folklore.

[@bryandraughn9830]

I wonder if someone a very long time ago found some dinosaur bones and made some conclusions? The pterodactyl even had wings! Just a thought. Love your videos Dave! When I'm having some anxiety your videos help me to relax. I appreciate that so much. Peace

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks! I'm very glad you enjoy the videos.

[@Baliken100]

only problem is, he's a wyvern (in the movie)! I haven't seen but maybe one or two actual dragons in cinema that wasn't CG in my life. dragons have four legs and wings, wyverns have two legs and two arms that double as wings. I know it doesn't sound like a major difference, but, as you would know rainbow Dave, there are important differences between the two. I like how game of thrones says that their dragons are actually a mixture of I believe it's a fireworm and a wyvern! The first lol I apologize it's either a fireworm or a fire snake or something like that, they're pretty big they're pretty darn big.... It makes sense🤷

[@therealelderking5830]

According to Tolkien’s artworks, Smaug at least is a full fledged six-limbed dragon. On the other hand Glaurung the Golden has four limbs and no wings but is still considered not only a dragon but the ‘Father of Dragons’.

[@redskull378]

The monsterverse and Minecraft introduced me to dragons.

[@noturaveragedad]

I still will never understand how Smaug ever got into the mountain. I mean he was huge and had to bust out of the mountain.

[@lopirobinson1991]

Definitely to modern western audiences dragons might not be so numerous and understood without Tolkien. Great idea to give him hypnotic powers. Ancalagon…that’s all that needs to be said.

[@mikeymcchoas3511]

I just read somewhere that Tiamat of D&D lore was powerful enough to have melted the One Ring.

[@shredtalktv7546]

Wow. Never realized that only mannish characters slew dragons. 2 of them by black weapons too. Pretty cool.

[@fourleafproductions9788]

Bit of a Tolkien tangent at the end but overall good video :)

[@tathemrelag3123]

Where did you find the term "foaloki" for cold-drakes? I unfortunately haven't collected all of Tolkien's Legendarium yet, so it's entirely possible that it just comes from one of the books I haven't read, but I've never seen them referred to by that name, even in the wikis.

[@tolkienuntangled]

This is a very good question. The word Foalokë is used in some of the earliest versions of the tale of Hurin, and it's mentioned in Parma Eldarlamberon, but to be honest in researching the answer to this, I feel like you've uncovered a mistake. As far as I can tell, Foalokë is just an older word for Uruloki, and I may have been in error to attribute it to cold drakes. My bad.

[@tathemrelag3123]

@@tolkienuntangled Hey, we all make mistakes. And you're still one of my go-to sources for the Lord of the Rings D&D homebrew I'm making (the one on orcs vs uruks being especially helpful). Keep up the good work!

[@Ddeletham]

I'm currently rewatching your chronological series and some of the stand-alone vids. Now what I really don't understand: Where did the dragons actually come from? They seem intelligent with their own independent will and they are quite powerful up to incredibly powerful. So they can't really have been originally created by Morgoth, since he can't wield the secret fire. However, he can corrupt and change already existing creatures. So: Could the dragons be maiar, corrupted by Morgoth and then bound to a body crafted by Morgoth, akin to how the Wizards were maiar bound to a body? This would explain how they can be so strong, have different magical powers and how they still grow, even though they are ainur.

[@Sshar22]

yup seems all have forgotten Saint George and the dragon

[@itayshorek6872]

thanks!

[@theMAN3554]

I would say anchelagon was a bit larger than King ghidorah in the King of the monsters movie. More thicc anyways

[@anthrogeek]

I sort of see Dragons as corrupted Maiar like Balrogs, but because Balrogs cannot speak or reproduce, and dragons do both, perhaps Dragons are hybrid Balrogs with anacondas/Eagles and Elves. Morgoth is known to have been seriously torturing and experimenting on the first elves for some time... *shudders*

[@Ronsilk-pu5hr]

I always wondered how they breed. I guess the old fashion way it's just hard to picture hahaha

[@victors.3633]

I wonder what creatures Morgoth corrupted to create the dragons.

[@tolkienuntangled]

Me too. Although my guess would be that it's some kind of great serpent. If we look at the physical descriptions given of Glaurung, we see that he 'slimes the ground with his belly' and is very often referred to as a 'great worm'. All dragons (even the later winged-dragons like Smaug) are described as very snake like in both look and disposition. So I think that's probably most likely.

[@marhawkman303]

@@tolkienuntangled "Slime" is an interesting usage as it refers to making the ground slippery smooth... but does so by heating it to the melting point.... while touching it with his belly.

[@johnivory3245]

It can be argued but a huge overstatement to say Smaug is so influential. Dragons go back to biblical tales and Beowulf. They’ve been written about for centuries. You can have a personal preference to Smaug and Tolkien, but let’s not get carried away.

[@samothemano]

That first dragon is 100% the Welsh Dragon 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@ianmhor100]

Can you explain how dragons came to be? It is said that Morgoth can only change what already exists. He created the orks by corrupting the elves but how did he "breed" dragons? And also trolls? Hod where they made. As far as I know it was never explained.

[@cypressragan2874]

Smaug was the last great fire drake but not the last dragon. There are two dragons during War of the Ring there were Drogoth the Dragon Lord (The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II) and Úrgost the winged fire-drake (The Lord of the Rings: War in the North).

[@MarleyFett]

This why I still make pop corn.

[@kongsied4279]

🤣 Fafnir is on the new God Of War game, he was originally a dwarf that played around with dark Magic, thus turning him into a Dragon, nice spin.

[@florinnatu]

Hi! You sound german to me! Are you of german descent? :)

[@NatsAstrea]

Since Morgoth could not create living beings with independent lives, is there any information about what he used to make dragons? Or could they have been Maiar?

[@hans_mods]

Maybe a stupid question but why is both Smaug and Glaurung called The Golden?

[@thedoruk6324]

Still felt sad about the Dragons İmminent Extinction thought

[@Raziel1984]

"assosiate dragons only with norse mythology? WOAHHRORORORORORORORO" Jokes asside i know what you mean and i love you videos :)

[@mehrshads5771]

Tolkien Untangled what is your opinion about FERDOWSI poet and author , is he the first one who writes about dragons in SHAHNAMEH , where RUSTAM fights with dragon, i'd be happy if you answer me . thank you

[@jurezibert]

16:56 Slovenian “Dragon bridge”

[@bumblebeet6202]

Cách hát của đức phúc luôn làm hài lòng tất cả mn.

[@chris2163]

I am a huge fan of the series, but I must say Drogon from Game of Thrones is still my favorite dragon, and I think the most current iconic dragon in the world of film and television ( and I really hate to use the word iconic because it is you so much and I cringe every time I hear it, but there’s no other words I can use to describe Drogon )

[@leontjohnson8661]

Wrong a dwarf kills one with a dagger to the stomach right as he's dying I believe it's a king of the iron mountains the one from The Hobbit oakenshield's cousin I believe it is or his great-grandfather or something like that but they're on the battlefield and having a a great War and he's about struck down and dragging about having finished and at the last moment he draws his dagger stabbed the dragon in the stomach and kills him. I'm positive of this I'm not a bigger than the biggest above the ass some people on here but I'm big enough on that and this one every once in a while and catch a guys making mistakes and I just like the point I'm out not the Revenant in their face but just so they can get back and look at all the material and see where they made theirs and correct it because you guys do a great job of giving material and outlet for materials in for us and Lauren stuff and I really appreciate all your hard work thank you!

[@sowitapid]

There are dragons in catholic Christian mythology, Michael vs the dragon for instance, and many altars and other paintings were made to tell this legend.

[@DeadRingerMachine]

I thought Elrond was also a half-elf?

[@シロダサンダー]

Starting out as such, but as he's a twin he chose his elven side and his brother Elros chose his human side.

[@michaelrue1400]

Was Tolkien the first to write of a dragon speaking? Most of the dragons I've seen have been portrayed as pure monsters, more animal than character. But those that came from stories inspired by Tolkien's writings have been able to carry on conversations with people.

[@michaelrue1400]

Seems I posted too soon.

[@JNastran]

Photo of a dragon from Ljubljana, sLOVEnia! ✌☺

[@nelsonward7981]

Ancalagon was slain by a 1/2 elf.

[@GwynWilliams-rg8vb]

Feels like you forgot Wales exists lol

[@michaelhart7569]

11:30 "Eärendil is the only pure 50/50 Man-Elf hybrid..." Hmmm... What about Dior, son of Beren and Luthien?

[@tolkienuntangled]

Well Luthien was only half elf herself, so Dior was 25% Elf, 25% Maia, 50% Man

[@michaelhart7569]

​@@tolkienuntangled True. I guess I was mentally placing them on a hierarchy of 'holiness' (for want of a better word) where elves are above men. So maia, being above elves, give rise to mixed offspring further still up the hierarchy than 50% man/elf.

[@iamnitrox]

I didn't realize that there was a whole "thing" about men killing dragons

[@josephmort4039]

Ancalagon could POSSIBLY melt Ring of Power according to Gandalf. Not just any dragon could.

[@CrazyDaneChi]

cant wait till they put smaug the dragon in a movie and not smaug the wyrm who we got

[@Rick79LUFC]

Elron was half human and half elf to

[@jansandman6983]

I doubt that tolkien was first to associate dragons with people. I'm from the Philippines and Dragon has always been part of our ancient culture and beliefs far older than tolkien. we call it "BAKUNAWA"

[@5crownsoutreach]

No, no, no, no. Dragons have always been popular going back through antiquity. Tolkien used an already popular creature. He didn't popularize the genre, for sure. Not one bit. In fact, his LOTR didn't even have a dragon featured. It was nice to see he had a legendarium concerning them, though.

[@carlcramer9269]

Dragonfire is hot enough to burn dwarven rings of fire, they would not melt the one ring. There is no reason to assume any ring of power except the one was forged in mount doom. Instead, they were forged in lesser fires, and that is presumably why dragonfire can destroy them. Or some of them - I would not bet on dragonfire destroying one of the elven rings.

[@carlcramer9269]

A note I miss here is from one of the battles of the Simarilion. There, the dwarves were said to be better at facing dragonfire, since they had metal masks on their helmets.

[@cypressragan2874]

I want to replace Dragons of Tolkien to Dragons of Westeros (Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon). Balerion - Ancalagon Syrax Caraxes Seasmoke Meleys Vhagar - Glaurung Dreamfyre - Scatha (Mother of Viserion, Rhaegal, and Drogon) Viserion Rhaegal Drogon - Smaug They can speak like Tolkien Dragons but a little neutral creatures, not dragon riders and they were not created by Morgoth.

[@MisanthropicOcellus]

I mean how to train your dragon is based on a book written about vikings and dragons,

[@Ragnarswe]

Tolkien borrowed extensively from old scandinavian folklore. Thank you Tolkien!

[@tonybusch384]

Dragons = Flying firebreathing sky puppies !!!!!

[@WarriorNoldor]

Dragonborn enters the chat.

[@MrTheatrick]

I think maybe looking back with the reputation they have today Vikings might allso be a good candidate for a group of ppl mad enough to fight a dragon to the death xD

[@nikoo9414]

Ist earendil an elv? 8:00

[@nikoo9414]

He killer ancalagon

[@tolkienuntangled]

Technically he's a half-elf.

[@championsgaming1]

I mean earendil is a half elf so

[@fatguywhobreathesfire6488]

Tolkien, Father of Dragons

[@veronikas.b.5767]

Those dragons in the Raya and The Last Dragon look so weak, I prefer the Smaug- like one, very fine looking, very majestic.

[@brianstanton2721]

I dont know ancalagon and Smoug are badass but pretty sure glourung makes em look like little bitches lol! But to be fair, its hard to rise to the badassery of your father

[@xleviathan_Ix]

Glahwrun

[@aframpton335]

Hairy Mary ese

[@davidfletcher6703]

Ah, so you're an Uncle Dave too, lol

[@realbadger]

It drives me mad when movie (and TV) show wyverns as being called dragons. Dragons have four legs, and wings (a la _Dragonheart_ movie). Wyverns have two back legs, and their front limbs are their wings... a la _Dragonslayer_ which literally doesn't contain _any_ dragons therein: just one massive wyvern, and a few of her wyvern young)...

[@alaranarmstrong3718]

Why do you get driven mad? There isn't a unified phylogeny of draconic figures. If the fiction calls it a dragon it's a dragon. I think this whole wyvern argument comes from D&D and everyone applying that to every other property for some reason

[@realbadger]

@@alaranarmstrong3718 It comes from lore research; calling a wild wolf a domestic dog doesn't make it so, even if a fictional narrative had a human and a wild wolf manage a work-together-to-survivi bond.

[@therealelderking5830]

@@realbadger A dragon is a fictional creature, it can be defined as we wish. For example, these days unicorns are almost always depicted with wings. We should technically call these Pegasus’s. In truth, dragons can be anything human imagination defines it as. Eastern dragons sometimes have NO limbs, but they are most certainly dragons. So the entire dragon/wryven debate is completely pointless.

[@realbadger]

@@therealelderking5830 Flying Horses of mythology were _not_ call Pegasus (or Pegasi); Pegasus was a _proper noun:_ the _name_ of One Specific Flying Horse, that Zeus would ride... 😉

[@therealelderking5830]

@@realbadger My bad. Winged horses are popularly called by the same name, but as you say ‘Pegasus’ refers to one particular horse of mythology. Nevertheless, my point about dragons still stands.

[@SzymonFNSL_PL]

Elfs did kill dragons same goes to humans glaurung for example died from the hands of turin which was a human and erandil killed ancalagon the black

[@alexandergowriluk1687]

TROGGGDOOOOOR

[@theodorewiltrout4749]

I never cared for the oriental dragons. I like the European dragons.

[@MusikCassette]

But how could Morgoth create dragons? they clearly Fea.

[@maineoutdoorsman677]

Why dint velar breed good dragons 🐉,to fight evil An make there doors so small no dragons could get in an lay on there treasure Smaug left dragon V D all over that gold ,dragon sickness aka dragon herpies

[@rprlunn93]

Dragons weren't a big thing in LOTR because they wouldn't have followed Sauron like the Balrogs didn't they were all officers in the same army and Sauron wasn't really that important in Melkors forces

[@marhawkman303]

Yeah, Sauron became important after Melkor was defeated. He was the most powerful member left after the War of Wrath was over.