Durston Kakwa 40 | Ultralight Backpack

[@JustinOutdoors]

Not only do all the features look to be really well thought out, but that is one good looking pack. The cherry on top and where the pack pulls away from other options on the market is the weight. You're looking at over 2lbs easily for packs with comparable features and load carrying. Another home run Dan!

[@durstongear]

Thanks Justin!

[@evanhammond7305]

@@durstongear Justin wants a 55 to test for us

[@HikingThru]

Agreed, The pack has surpassed my expectations and I am beyond excited to attempt to acquire my very own tomorrow 🤙🏼

[@SrslyJonSweet]

@@HikingThru I’m sure supplies will last for at least a couple hours. ;-) Though I agree this is a massive upgrade and could sell quite a bit faster than the already very good DD40.

[@HikingThru]

@@SrslyJonSweet I do expect it to last longer as well, but I live for the rush of adrenaline that comes with the panic buying, arm flailing and risk of pain that would follow with an unsuccessful attempt. The sooner I can purchase one… the sooner I can spread the word of the Kakwa 40 across the hiking world via the interwebs 😂🤙🏼

[@UtiliTerran]

This dude is so innovative. The quality of the gear he turns puts many of the big brands to shame. He also takes the input from his customers in mind in order to iterate and improve his products over time.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@SrslyJonSweet]

You had me at “This is the new Kakwa 40.”

[@HikingThru]

I'm a yes man for Dan 😂

[@HikingThru]

The real question is... When will there be a subscription model released that as soon as you release a new product that it is instantly charged to my account and magically arrives on my doorstep. The ingenuity continues to blow me away... Always appreciate the top of the line products. You've got my support Dan!

[@dansworld9635]

Ha ha ha ha ha Wow.... I'm in. Sign me up. We need to get Dan's products into the stores like REI etc....

[@HikingThru]

@@dansworld9635 Soon enough.. Once he establishes enough equipment in the market and able to acquire larger batches of product. But even then, the conventional stores seem like a way of the past. Durston’s brand is rapidly growing to be a common hikers household name, not to mention appeasing the difficult to please ultralight community.. Funding (if needed) will be much easier to acquire after Dans continued success with all of his products and drive to create exceptional products. As the production facilities get back on track you will see the Durston brand on nearly every hiking trail in the world and I can’t think of a more suitable family to support in their journey! I actually attribute part of the growth to the halts in supply chains. As what makes you want something more than making it hard to get and being a member of an exclusive club 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@antoniabaker7770]

I'm with you.

[@antoniabaker7770]

@@dansworld9635 we need a distributor in Australia.

[@HikingThru]

@@antoniabaker7770 wouldn’t that be the best! Have a Durston outlet store in every country 😍

[@Zach_Routhier]

I hiked for 30 days in the South San Jauns when I was a teenager over 20 years ago and fell in love. I recently went camping for the first time in maybe 5 or 6 years and I reignited my love for the outdoors. I have been on a 2 week long research spree to find my next gear. I feel so lucky to have found you Durston. I feel my search is finally over. Your Kakwa 40 and XmidPro2 are on the top of my list when I'm ready to get my next bag and shelter. As a fellow engineer I know just how much obsessive thought and effort have gone into creating the literal best UL hiking gear on the planet. I hope I am lucky enough to own your gear soon. Until then I'm wishing you nothing but success and happiness!

[@aaronpudlicki7418]

Dan continuing to fight the good fight. No BS quality well thought out affordable products

[@durstongear]

Thanks Aaron!

[@calevel]

I just ordered mine!! This pack has everything in the right place, not over or under designed just right. Soon after I ordered mine my buddy ordered his too. It’s a winner!

[@durstongear]

Awesome. Thanks for the support!

[@andrewferguson7859]

I saw one of these when backpacking the other day. Turns out the guy had just bought it, and another one for his friend. The friend did not want his, and when his buddy, with the pack mentioned he had it for sale, my friend snapped it up. Definitely a well made, and well thought out pack.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the support!

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

I love every single thing this company makes. Awesome stuff. And very reasonably priced considering what you are getting. I work at REI, so that might tell you something extra about how legit their gear is.

[@durstongear]

Thanks Phil! I appreciate the support and kind words. - Dan

[@notsosaint]

Just took my Kakwa 40 for its maiden voyage. It was love at first sight for the efficient design, durability, and aesthetics. I would be devastated if it wore poorly but I’m happy to say it’s the coziest pack I’ve worn so far. Shoulder straps, hipbelt, and U frame are all shaped wonderfully. The load handling is incredible at its weight. Feedback: I find the hip belt buckle finicky to get aligned. No big deal. For the side entry pocket inside the bottle pocket, I can’t shake the feeling that it would be more enjoyable to use with some dedicated expandable space, especially any time there’s something in the bottle side of the pocket. I can only imagine the significant complications of that design but still the feeling remains. I wish the interior size tag was a bit bigger or a flat hang loop. Outer pocket mesh has a delightfully durable handfeel. I’m looking forward to wearing this pack even more and I’m looking forward to the 55. Thanks for your work.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the feedback. Glad things are mostly going well and you're finding it super cozy.

[@notsosaint]

​@@durstongear I don't think I could be happier. What you set out to do with this bag is exactly what I was looking for and it delivers 100%. I know some of my feedback goes against the grain of the subtractive design, for which even I find my points disagreeable. But I hope the feedback may be of some small use regardless.

[@janmariolle]

I can’t wait until mine arrives! Your design strategy for longevity and functionality checks all the boxes I care about. On top of that, it’s a nice looking pack.

[@durstongear]

Thanks!

[@janmariolle]

@@durstongear Same thoughts about the solo mid. These products look like the last I’ll ever buy. I have so much gear which only partially worked for me. I really crave the simplicity of excellent functionality, light weight and enduring quality. Thanks for taking the brave leap toward designing and producing outstanding gear. I’m trying to decide which solo mid would be best for me. I’m on the notify list for all three.

[@sherrylaponsee7782]

Yes!!! I’m setting an alarm for this!

[@cascadiahiking]

Well thought out design, material choice, and construction. I really like that frame and hip belt strap system. Made with Ultra and at 28oz. This has everything I'd want in a pack that size.

[@MidwestMotocamp]

Just got my shipping notice and I can't wait. I've been using a sub nero and I'm looking forward to a bit more room.

[@durstongear]

Awesome!

[@ThePhiloctopus]

I'm so glad to have *finally* been able to order the x-mid 2p. I would have LOVED to add this pack to the order - shipping is a killer to Aus - but sadly it's out of stock. I hope you get on top of inventory soon because there are probably lots of people like me who can only daydream about this quality gear because it's so hard to buy! Trust me, we WANT to buy!!!

[@durstongear]

We do have much improved supply around the corner. The X-Mid orders are finally regularly open, and we have a lot more packs coming in early 2023. We have a sign up list on our website for that. We also have a 55L version of the Kakwa pack coming out that will be sold directly by my (via DurstonGear.com) and will have less expensive shipping internationally.

[@christopheberton3302]

A pack with a vertical zipper from high to low for the ladies would be great. To give them the idea they open a travelcase.

[@LawrenceSullivan]

Best UL pack i've ever seen. Extremely thoughtful design, not one thing I would want changed. Incredible! I'm 5'9 and Medium fits me perfectly.

[@jfifield20]

Just ordered mine this morning! Can't wait to try it out.

[@durstongear]

Awesome. I hope it works well for you.

[@jeffschroeder886]

Very excited about this new pack, Dan! The thought that you put into this pack is incredible - just like all the Durston Gear.

[@RandyChase]

Setting my alarm for the pre-order!

[@BigDawgCAM]

Dang! That’s pretty much all of my dreams come true in one pack

[@durstongear]

Thanks Cam!

[@DanielJarman1249]

Dan - any chance you'd be willing to put a video together about how you pack your gear in your Kakwa? I've had mine out on a couple overnights now and I can't help thinking I could be packing it a bit more efficiently. I seem to want to stuff more stuff than will fit in the mesh pocket. I am loving it though, easily the most comfortable lightweight pack I've used so far due to all the adjustments you can make to the weight distribution

[@durstongear]

I'd like to do this. Video's take a long time to put together and I have a few ahead of this on the priority list (e.g. X-Mid Pro 1 video) but I do hope to do this. Might be next spring though.

[@BackcountryPilgrim]

This looks amazing, Dan! The new straps look awesome (my ONLY issue with the Drop 40 pack). So glad you kept the side "pocket pocket." Ultra 200? Dude!

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@Hallouminatiee]

Looks great but is there a video where we can see inside the pack?

[@durstongear]

We don't have that available but the inside is just one big main compartment (no pockets) other than the sleeve that the frame and back pad slides into.

[@tylernblaney]

Congratulations Dan on a well thought out pack! I look forward to seeing the 55 next year!

[@durstongear]

Thanks Tyler!

[@klaymoon1]

It looks great! Can you show the inside of it? Do you offer a rain cover as well?

[@durstongear]

I don't have a pic of the inside but it's pretty light so you can easily see gear inside. We don't offer a rain cover but the material is waterproof. If you want it 100% waterproof you can seal the seams.

[@klaymoon1]

@@durstongear 2 lbs and waterproof? That's just great!

[@Jasiel.95]

I’m new to my Atmos AG 50 love it’s so comfortable. The hipbelt pockets suck opening and closing.

[@gregoryoutdoors]

Ohhh man what an awesome pack! Im getting 55L for sure one day haha... I dont want an Atom Pack anymore just like everybody else here in UK lol...Kawka rocks!

[@durstongear]

Thanks Gregory!

[@cwarp]

Got one ordered! Big improvement over my osprey.

[@luozixiwu1]

Please consider detachable hip bag\belt, and strap pocket.... also designated bag for water blader inside of the main compartment.

[@fjallife]

Nice! Hope to see this in bigger versions too ( 50L to 55L) in future :)

[@durstongear]

We will have a 55L version next year.

[@colingarnesify]

Nice! Just ordered this for the wife and will wait for the 55 for me

[@funnybeingme]

​ @durstongear Hi Dan. Any plans on doing a bigger pack, perhaps a Kakwa 65? It would be great for extended trips or winter trip especially for us that lives up north like here in Alaska. I almost considered getting a Kakwa 55 but two things that seemed missing, an ice axe loop. Also I like to attach a Peak Design capture clip on one shoulder strap and I feel like the shoulder strap pockets seems already high and it would just completely go over them rendering one pocket useless. Perhaps make it lower and have zipper access to the side to still make it usable? I tend to carry one smartwater bottle on the right shoulder pocket. Thanks.

[@durstongear]

The height of the shoulder strap pockets will vary based on the fit of the of the pack. If someone has large shoulders and/or too small of a pack they will be high. If someone has small shoulders and too large of a pack they will be low, but for most people they should be about right. There are attachments to add an ice axe carry. For the PD clip, you can put it above the shoulder strap pockets, but also they can slide over to the side and you can put one at the same spot as the shoulder strap pockets. I would like to do a 65L version. It's not in the works now but I hope to do it.

[@1DrBar]

Well, I got notified that the Durston Kawka 55Liter would be in stock this Thursday, and so now on Wednesday in the early afternoon, I went online and ordered one that was in stock in size medium. Now they are out of stock less than six hours later, but still available as a pre-order item that ships in a few weeks. I would say that the popularity and demand for this product is now officially “Viral”. If anyone wants one - better hurry. 🤩

[@PeteBraginton]

Neato! Diggin' that auxiliary side pocket 👍 Would like to see the mesh back pocket a bit taller...good stuff!

[@shramj]

I would love to try one of these Kakwa packs. I am interested in the back panel, does it provide any ventilation? I live in the Southwest so getting as much air flow on the back is a must.

[@durstongear]

Our back panel does not have ventilation. My general philosophy is that I don't prefer the vented/trampoline back panels because they move back the center of gravity for worse ergonomics (e.g. you have to lean forward more to counter balance the load) and they still don't work that well (e.g. if it's hot you'll still get a sweaty back. For sure lots of people prefer that style and it may work best for you, but we don't offer a pack like that. Best, Dan

[@preacherman9018]

Hi Dan, I'm impressed with your good ideas like the pleated mesh pocket, zippered access on the left side that holds more than a hip pocket. The 7076 aluminum aluminum frame looks promising too. Question:. With so many body types and torso lengths, how do you get it to fit everyone with a non bendable/ non-adjustable tubing?

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words. The pack isn't going to fit everyone but it does fit most. We have load lifters that make it more flexible in the range of torso lengths that will fit. If a pack lacks load lifters then the shoulder strap height needs to be exact and even then it's not as good. Then for back width and shape, like most frames it has a standard shape. The upper half is mostly flat while the lower half has curves into the lumbar area a bit. It's not going to fit everyone but it's a pretty standard shape that 95% of people should be pretty happy with.

[@preacherman9018]

@@durstongear Thank you very much for the detailed response. I think I understand better now. Each review I've heard/ read has mentioned the comfort over a wide range of weights. You may get a call from me before the end of the season. Take care my friend. ☕🙂👍

[@denahom]

Great design features! I would purchase a small. Are the dimensions rated for carry on for flights?

[@durstongear]

Thanks! In the 40L version the small and medium sizes are fine for carrying on.

[@MrDanAng1]

Stop make awesome stuff! 😉 So far, I want every thing from Durston! My wallet can't handle this. I'm still saving up for the DCF X-mid tent.

[@Beasterxp]

How is the water repellency of Ultra Dan? Do you still require a rain cover for the pack? Can't wait until Large Kakwa 55 is available!!

[@durstongear]

The large Kakwa 55 is in stock now. Low supply though. The Ultra fabric is totally waterproof as it has an actual plastic film on the inner side, but the pack is not full waterproof because it is not seam taped (the frame is in the seams so we can't do this). You'd have to seal the seams yourself if you want to get close to 100% waterproof.

[@Beasterxp]

@@durstongear Thanks for the reply! You convinced me and I ordered the pack :D Can't wait to get out there and try it out!

[@durstongear]

@@Beasterxp Nice :) I hope it works well :) - Dan

[@mikekraut7643]

I don’t think I’m UL enough for only 40L in the winter, so I will wait and hope for a 50 or 55L version

[@durstongear]

We hope to have a 55L version late this year or early 2023

[@antoniabaker7770]

Thats my only concern.

[@antoniabaker7770]

@@durstongear i have a thru hike for late this year and another for next year. Later this year would be great ;)

[@durstongear]

@@antoniabaker7770 We're trying.

[@jfifield20]

@@durstongear Dan, how much weight do you anticipate the 55L version will add over this 40L size?

[@DIYPackraft]

Those are some nice features!

[@jfifield20]

I just watched this video again and I'm curious are there any air flow points or thought in design to help minimize a sweaty hot back? If not in design, are there any recommended hacks to get some air flow across your back? Thanks.

[@d1rtbag35]

I have the previous DD model, and what I do is simply synch down the hip belt so my hips are carrying 100% of the weight and then loosen the load lifters a bit. This provides a gap between your back and the pack; excellent ventilation.

[@oo5950]

Order placed. Next order will be X-Mid 1 pro. Thank you for your hard work and excellent products.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for your support!

[@fademasterfade227]

Does it have padding where your back contacts the pack? Would this be a really sweaty pack as I imagine that fabric is not breathable in the slightest? It looks so good but comfort and sweat are concerns...

[@durstongear]

There is a pad in the back. Regarding sweat, we could add mesh material on the back but it would add weight and is prone to collecting debris while not actually reducing sweat much. You need a real trampoline/air style of frame to get enough airflow to meaningfully reduce sweat. The problem there is that is moved the center of gravity back so you have to lean forward more and it contributes to lower back soreness. So yes this style of design can be sweaty but it is a trade off where we think it's the better of the various options.

[@fademasterfade227]

@@durstongear Cool, thanks for replying. I hadn't thought about a trampoline style back moving the weight further away from you and how that would affect the carry.

[@jays7318]

Great Design Dan! I wish I could justify buying another pack now!

[@castrobal]

That's a nice looking pack. I have the HMG southwest 2400 and really missing the load lifters. Does the pack and the belt punches have same water resistance as the dyneema HMG packs?

[@durstongear]

The material is similarly water resistance because both materials have an actual layer of plastic inside. The Kakwa is not seam taped like the HMG packs though because with our load lifters and more complicated frame the seams become too complicated to tape. So you can seam seal it to have similar protection.

[@castrobal]

@@durstongear oki. Please find a reseller in Europe. It's too expensive with shipping and duties :(.

[@durstongear]

@@castrobal We've been working on low cost shipping to Europe, so it is about $35. I don't think there's much we can do about the taxes though. We don't charge North American taxes, and then regardless of whether we have a reseller or not there is still VAT to pay in Europe (it is just often included in the price instead of added on top).

[@somedavehikes]

Ordered. I trust it will be as awesome of the rest of my DUrston Gear!

[@durstongear]

Thanks Dave!

[@mudbone7706]

Dan, received the Kakwa today and overall really looks good. My large is coming in at 1.8 lbs but it may actually be a bit lighter than that as the digital scale was having trouble deciding between 1.7 and 1.8 lbs. One question: The hipbelt attachments are much closer together (narrower distance between the two attachments) on this pack than on the DD40 or other packs I've used. Can you comment on why this design choice was made?

[@ian4545]

Hugs the curve of narrow waists better

[@durstongear]

We spec the size large at 28.5oz (1.78 lbs) so your scale tipping between 1.7 and 1.8 sounds about right. For the waist belt, lots of other packs do this as well (e.g. HMG, ULA). Attaching the wings at the edges like the DD40 is less common. Compared to the DD40, the hipbelt wings are attached closer but they are also longer so you get similar wrap around your body (both packs are about 27" from tip to tip). This just works a bit better because it doesn't force the pack compartment to bend around your body as much.

[@lilianm7151]

Nice looking pack. Does it have a drink bladder compartment? Also, will it fit a bear container?

[@durstongear]

It does not have a compartment for a bladder but it does have a port for the hose, so you can put a bladder inside. It will fit canisters vertically. 40L packs are just too small to be able to fit canisters like a BV500 horizontally.

[@1DrBar]

I really like the idea of the pack but have two questions that are very important to my buying decision. Is the volume stated, the interior of the pack, or is the interior plus the exterior pockets and mesh used in the calculations? The actual inner dimensions of the 40 and the 55 would be very handly to know. Secondly, are there any tie out points so that I can attach shock cord to the lower bottom so that I can carry my foam pad comfortably on the outside? It's good to see some novel thinking in the backpack world.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words. We have the specs for dimensions and volume on our website under specs. The volume is just internal. There are 8 attachment points including 6 around the front pocket (4 corners, 2 halfway up) plus 2 more below the hipbelt so you can add bottom straps. So yes you can carry your pad on the bottom.

[@1DrBar]

@@durstongear Excellent. I put myself on the 55 wait list. I hate life without load lifters. I have a measure 19 spine - do you think the large will be better than the medium?

[@durstongear]

@@1DrBar There's overlap in our sizing so either the M or L probably works. the M is rated for 17-20 and the L for 19-22. I would double check your measurement once or twice more, and then opt for whichever size you're more in the range for. Packs should be here in about 10 days.

[@Campology]

I’m liking’ it. Perhaps the pack ”holy grail”??… my order is in!

[@nicholasarkis6116]

Hi Dan, I love this pack design. I got your first version of the X-Mid 1P, and it's been fantastic. Speaking of, I'd been looking at the Mariposa 60, because I dig the taller "quiver" side pocket. I think the X-Mid will fit nicely in there. But, seeing your comparison of the Kakwa to the Mariposa really sold me on yours. Does the X-Mid 1P fit well in the taller side pocket on the Kakwa? Thanks and remain awesome!

[@durstongear]

Thanks Nicholas! Yes the X-Mid 1 (but the 2P) fits in the tall side pocket.

[@ascii2795]

This looks awesome. I’m always amazed that it is so rare to have one handed zippered pockets. They are incredibly hard to find. I tried the DD40 but it was too wide for my shoulders. Hopefully this one will be better? Thanks so much

[@durstongear]

The shoulder straps are narrower on the Kakwa 40. Good chance it fits better.

[@benha3187]

Hey Dan! Do the shoulder straps fit a smart water bottle? With the DD40 I had to get a aqua clip for putting a water bottle there. Love the new color!

[@durstongear]

They fit a lot of medium sized water bottles. Not a 1L smart water bottle (I don't think - haven't actually tried) but they should fit a 500ml Smart Water bottle.

[@evanhammond7305]

This pack looks awsome. I'm also excited about it being designed buy a local to the rockies like myself. I'm glad I waited for to get a ultralight pack I was gonna wait for the 55 I might have to get the 40 since it looks like a large 40. So excited to get some Durston out in its natural environment the Canadian rockies. Cheers looks amazing

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words. The Canadian Rockies are the best!

[@HikingThru]

Mine already has a date for a big September hike in Jasper. Can’t wait!

[@multisportscott]

This looks so so good. Unfortunately the $69 freight charge has pushed it too far for this Kiwi Durston enthusiast 😞 I have both the 1p and 2p tents and was keen to round out my kit. I fully understand freight costs but it's a bummer it is so high for this one. Oh well I'll just admire from afar! Keep up the excellent work Dan

[@durstongear]

Yeah packs are hard to ship internationally cheaply because the frame length tends to make them oversized. Maybe we can find a way to ship in bulk and have more local distribution but that's a while off. Even as is, I think it's probably less expensive than any other Ultra pack that is similar (e.g. framed).

[@jakeschaumloeffel2322]

Looks like a pretty sweet pack. There wasnt much of a mention about the padding on the hipbelt nor the back. What type of padding/foam material is used? Also, can the back pad can be removed? Is it thick enough to double as a sit pad?

[@durstongear]

The back pad is removable but it's a bit of hassle so I wouldn't do it regularly (e.g. as a sit pad). It is about 6mm.

[@phillvallace]

@@durstongear how much of a hassle are we talking here? like would it been fine to do as a sleeping mat? also is it folded foam so can fold it out to a bigger foot print?

[@GregSkisBC]

Hey Dan - very nice looking pack! I can only see 1 compression strap. Is there more than 1? How well does it compress down? Thanks.

[@durstongear]

Thanks Greg! The main way to compress it is by rolling down the roll top. That gets rid of a lot of volume if needed. The side cords help with compression too but they are mostly for securing taller objects in the side pockets like trekking poles.

[@jimj3500]

Does it have any side compression? I would like to see a couple of side compression straps and also the ability to strap the top dry-bag closure down to the sides, also for compression, when required.

[@durstongear]

The main way to compress is the roll top, which can roll down to shrink the volume a lot. It's only a 40L pack, so with that rolled down all the way it gets pretty small and the side cords can make it even smaller. I prefer to keep it light rather than adding more compression than this.

[@samsmith8870]

Sam Smith I recently received your 50l pack and I like it a lot! Can you think of any structural reason why I shouldn't seam seal it with Dyneema tape? I'm thinking, maybe not the pockets. Thanks, aka Steve P, Lancaster PA

[@durstongear]

It's hard to put tape on the inside because the seams are bulky with the integrated frame. Seal sealing likely works better.

[@samsmith8870]

Yeah, I realize that now. Not a big deal. I'm enjoying the pack very much. Just having trouble getting off work to use it more lol. Rides well, the 50l looks a lot smaller than what it is, which I like. The little side pocket is nice for ID, keys, and glasses. I only wish mesh pocket were larger because that's where I put my wet hammock tarp, straps and clothes to dry. I just added shock cord to the outside, should work fine. All in all very pleased, thanks!

[@grueneauen]

Nice! Just a little bit concerned when it comes to airflow and ventilation between the pack and the back. Will this construction not cause a lot of sweat? I also would like to see two front loading zipper for getting to all the items packed down more easily without the need to unpack the rest. 😊

[@durstongear]

Yes if it's hot you'll get a sweaty back. There are air suspension systems for this, but they add weight, degrade the ergonomics by moving back the center of gravity, and still don't work that well as you probably still get sweaty.

[@D4rknessMG]

It's looks like a amazing bakcpack and I'm already in love with your xmid 2p solid tent! Sad that I'm in Europe that I have to pay extra fee to get it... just a little remark it's you are talking a lot about every different feature of the backpack without opening and showing the inside 😅

[@durstongear]

for the kind words and suggestion. We have low cost shipping to Europe. There is tax when it arrives but it is the same taxes that would be included in a higher price if it was sold locally, so there aren't more taxes than normal.

[@antoniabaker7770]

Just ordered mine.

[@phillvallace]

hmmm I gotta say this does seem to tick a lot boxes but do question lack of gear loop on the outer pack eg for Ice Axes, show shovels, sleeping mats etc also be nice to see a whistle in the buckle. Does the pack have a foam backing? & is it removable to use it as a sleeping mat?

[@durstongear]

There are loops at the base of the front pocket and on the ends of that side cord, so you can rig up an ice axe carry. A shovel would work well with the blade in the mesh pocket and the handle in the taller side pocket. Yes there is a foam pad. Not too much too it since it's a UL pack but it is a 7mm pad. It is removable but a bit of hassle to get in/out. If you wanted to remove it regularly I'd look at maybe swapping it for stiffer EVA foam and trimming it a little smaller.

[@ManivanAdventures]

Welp, you got me again, Dan… Just got my X-mid and couldn’t even wait a week before ordering this pack too… lol This pack looks perfect for what I’m looking for!

[@durstongear]

Nice :)

[@AmericanDrainWorks]

Can a bear canister fit inside? Does this work for 16" torso, with shoulder straps that also fit a narrower shoulder width? Can you change out the hip belt? As a smaller person, I need a backpack that can carry up to 40lbs comfortably. Other ultralight packs may fit a shorter torso but the shoulder straps are too wide, so that the bag shifts from one side to the other. When thru hiking one tends to loose weight...I lost 20 lbs! I started with Zack scout, but the stays broke, the hip belt was lame (cheap, not comfy not supportive) and changing out was very difficult, it never really cnged out correctly. Removing the broken stays and reinserting the new stays were again very difficult...and carrying the bear can on top just caused neck and back pain...the pack wasn't the right fit. AND to top it off, Zack support failed at every level. The ula circuit checked all the boxes., and like Durston support was outstanding, knowledgeable and helpful. As a Durston gear supporter I am looking forward to a pack that may one day fit my small frame so I can continue trekking with the true back packers....

[@durstongear]

Thanks for your kind words and support. Bear canisters are hard to fit in a 40L pack because any pack that is large enough to hold one horizontally is quite likely more than 40L. Our 55L version tapers wider at the top to hold most canisters horizontally, while the 40L can accommodate them vertically or under the Y top strap. For the shoulder straps, we did make these closer together after feedback on our first pack. I can't be sure if they'll be close enough for you, but they are not wide for sure. Our small size has a good chance of fitting. The hipbelt is not removable in the current design. We may update this in the coming years to allow for belt swaps but it's not available in the coming year.

[@stullmann2657]

Awesome pack! Is the 44 l in large including the Pockets ? Greets from Germania

[@durstongear]

Thanks! That 44L is only the internal volume (not including pockets).

[@stullmann2657]

Ordered it, so exited to take it to Black Forest this year👍🏻 cant wait🥳🥳

[@durstongear]

@@stullmann2657 Thanks for the support!

[@Ratatrail]

Great backpack! Really happy about that ultra 200 material 🤠

[@durstongear]

Thanks!

[@rachelhughes8951]

Trying to decide if I can get everything I 'need' in here after reducing some items or if I should wait for the larger pack. Either way, I will be ordering one of the two.

[@antoniabaker7770]

I'm there too.

[@musingwithreba9667]

I have the DD40L and when I bought it for the weight savings I really had no clue if I would fit all my gear in it. I switched from a 55L "traditional" MEC pack. And I really have no problem with getting everything in it at all. It doesn't work so well with longer food carries, I had an 8 day carry that I needed a front pack for a couple of days, but the Kakwa has a heavier load ability and a new top strap system that'll be awesome to put the tent on the outside to make room for more food inside. I would like the 55L for winter trips when I've got bulkier sleep system and extra clothes. The 40L is perfect for when you don't need all the bulky gear.

[@antoniabaker7770]

@@musingwithreba9667 thank you for the feedback. I'm looking at it for a thru hike which unfortunately included a bear cannister. I've purchased one so going to see how it goes. If not I will use it as my day pack.

[@musingwithreba9667]

@@antoniabaker7770 I think Dan said the top strap will fit a bear cannister. Good luck on your thru hike!

[@antoniabaker7770]

@@musingwithreba9667 thank you so much.

[@David-vi1ex]

Great design!!! I have one question I did not find answer to : do the shoulder and hipbelt straps have foam padding or it's just spacer mesh and Ultra? If so, how thick is the padding? Thank you!

[@durstongear]

It's an EVA foam. I don't recall the exact spec off hand but it's 6-7mm.

[@BrokenBackMountains]

Hi Dan. Is it 40 litres overall or does the 40 l apply to the main compartment? I like the frame. I had a similar frame but wider tube on an old karrimor I bought in 82. That was a very comfy 65 litre even in those days. That was when Karrimor was innovative. I like the twin strap for the hip belt. My current pack uses that and it works well. Damn. I may have to get a new pack😊

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the interest. 40L is just for the main compartment, so we aren't including the external pockets in that.

[@BrokenBackMountains]

@@durstongear Even better. A lot of manufacturers 'cheat' a bit on capacity with the external stuff. I reckon this could fit my needs. Give me time to save up? I just bought an x-mid😁

[@durstongear]

@@BrokenBackMountains Yeah that has become really common where other companies call their 40L packs 50-60L when they are counting the external pockets. We prefer to use the traditional method of only counting interior space. The packs will probably sell out in 1-2 months, so you have some time, but it'll be early 2023 before they are back once they do sell out.

[@kaii6101]

Hi Dan, I love the Kakwa40 (and the Xmid 2 solid!). I had some questions about upkeep about the pack...and some comments. I noticed that my back sweats a lot and wets the back panel. Will this damage the fabric in the long run? Is there a preferred method to keep it clean? Another question is about my packing method - I follow Darwin's style of packing, stuffing my sleeping bag into a nylofume packliner. It seems fit well, but bulges a bit. Will this damage the stitching in the long run? Should I be using a compression sack instead? My couple of comments are around the water bottle pocket and attachment points. It has taken a bit of getting used to to access the bottle while hiking (1l Smart water bottle). Not sure if it could be improved. Lastly, I miss having some loops to attach a few extras to the back or the bottom of the pack. Any plans to have a stretch pocket at the bottom? I know all that adds to the cost and weight and everything is a compromise 😊. All that being said, I love it and so have many others on the trail.

[@durstongear]

Hi Kai, Thanks for the kind words and support. Back sweat shouldn't damage the pack, other than getting a little stinky over time. You can hand wash the pack with normal soap and water to clean it, or put it in the washing machine on 'delicate' with the frame and back pad removed. I don't think you'll have any issues with packing your bag like that. I can't imagine a bag could push hard enough to cause problematic stress on a pack fabric. For loops, we do have them at the 4 corners of the front pocket and I am planning to add a few more for the next batch so users can strap things to the bottom. For a bottom pocket, I think our side zippered pocket is a better approach. Compared to a bottom pocket, it is more secure, doesn't require putting delicate fabric in a vulnerable area, and lets you see into it. If you stuff it full from the top then there's not much space, but if you're strategic and use it from the side zipper then I think it works like a better and more durable version of a bottom stretch pocket.

[@kaii6101]

@@durstongear Thanks for the prompt response. Looking closely, there are loops that I missed 😊. You have thought through a lot here. Much appreciated 🙏🏻!

[@morgankarno7335]

I hope it fits me, time will tell love the price and stated features and the availability. Thank you

[@AndyShepard]

Awesome! This pack looks great!

[@andydickson5400]

Looks great, one question. Are there attachment points on the bottom for a closed cell foam sleeping pad?

[@durstongear]

There are two loops at the bottom of the mesh pocket, but not loops on the other side so you can't last a pad to the bottom. You can strap it to the top.

[@andydickson5400]

@@durstongear Yea, but that's where I put the bear can.

[@snubblebubble4937]

How water resistant is this fabric? Would I need a rain cover or will just a pack liner be sufficient?

[@durstongear]

The fabric is 100% waterproof because it has an actual plastic layer, but the seams are not sealed because some of them are too complex to sew in a way that could be seam taped. The pack is quite water resistant and I don't use a liner or cover but a little water will leak in if it rains all day. I prefer just to protect my important stuff like sleeping quilt in a waterproof sack. Normally it would be fine without any of that, but in heavy rain you could use a liner or stuff sacks, or seam seal the pack. I don't recommend a rain cover as they still leave a lot of the pack exposed (e.g. the back).

[@olshamus]

Dan, do your volume measurements include exterior pockets and roll top sleeve or is that strictly the main pack body volume? I’ve had the xmid for about 2 years now and love it btw.

[@durstongear]

That 40L is strictly the internal volume.

[@ofwolfanddan]

Will these be back in stock any time soon? I’m after the Ultra 200 version in medium.

[@durstongear]

About January for the Kakwa 40 in Ultra 200X. We'll have the 55L in that fabric back in stock in a few days.

[@ofwolfanddan]

@ That’s great news - thanks!

[@louiscorcoran1622]

Hey Dan, is the roll top closure a snap closure or a velcro closure? As seems to consistently be the case, you've designed another product that makes me incredibly excited!

[@SrslyJonSweet]

Looks like the same buckle-based closure as the DD40, just now with a Y-shaped compression strap on top of that.

[@durstongear]

@@SrslyJonSweet Yes

[@CorpseGrin]

Coming from heavy very well padded packs, I’m hesitant to take the plunge on one of these with the thin padding on the shoulders, back, and hit belt. But I am soooo curious to try one at 30lbs+ for long periods or time. With everyone’s bodies being so different and all.

[@Davis2001r6]

Does there happen to be a pocket for a hydration bladder and a port to run the tube out?

[@durstongear]

Hi Tim. There is a port for a hose. No bladder pocket but you can lay it inside and use the port.

[@kimberlythayer4857]

Just got my notification it has shipped ! Expected Wednesday the 13th I'm in Southern California.

[@durstongear]

Awesome!

[@Michael-xe2nh]

Looks awesome! I’ve been waiting for this. Is it designed for carrying a water bladder inside and a port for the hose?

[@durstongear]

There's not a big sleeve for the bladder inside as I didn't want to put weight into that since few use it, but there is still a port so you can use a bladder.

[@Michael-xe2nh]

@@durstongear that's enough for me! follow up question, is there a small tab or loop inside to strap the top of the bladder to the pack so it won't shift or sag?

[@ian4545]

@@Michael-xe2nh you could probably sew on a grosgrain tab with attachment device of choice to the inside horizontal top seam.

[@mtadams2009]

What country is it made in. Looks like a beautiful pack for sure. Country of origin is a big deal for me since backpacking gear is one of the few products that you can actually get products made in the USA. Take care,

[@durstongear]

The Kakwa 40 pack is made in Vietnam.

[@mtadams2009]

@@durstongear Thanks, it looks great.

[@mudbone7706]

Is there a daisy chain on the shoulder straps above the shoulder pockets? Any loops on bottom of pack for lashing things?

[@durstongear]

The daisy chain runs behind the shoulder strap pockets. You can pull them to the side to attach other things. There are two loops below the mesh front pocket to attach things.

[@Floki1624]

@durstongear I had a similar UL pack in 60L and went with a Medium torso length...only to find it was the wrong fit. My torso is Aprox 17.5 inches but my Height is 5 foot 9 and a half. I just ordered the Small Size in the Kakwa 40 and I'm really hoping I've hit the sweet spot. In the 60L size M pack from the other brand the frame was hitting my head.

[@durstongear]

Nice. Sizing is a tricky one but I hope it works well. Thanks for your support.

[@Floki1624]

@@durstongear Thanks Dan, I'll find out this week when it arrives. One review said to size up so I'm hoping that's not the case with me but I Do like a lot of the weight Off my shoulders.

[@CB-hy8wj]

My recurring gripe about design (hiking gear or otherwise) is the lack of thoughtfulness. Never so with Durston designs. It's like he reads my mind. Looking forward to wearing-out the new pack.

[@durstongear]

Thanks!

[@lanetaglio]

PLEASE consider straps like on every model of MLD Packs,...most comfortable in the industry. They offset the dyneema at a 45 deg angle providing stretch and cush comfort! THANKS!

[@durstongear]

Are you sure it's the fabric orientation that provides the comfort moreso than the shape? MLD does a mild S shape which is quite similar to what we're doing. Given that there is padding between the body and outer strap fabric I don't think the 45 degree angle does much but more is for looks, but I'd be interested to hear the argument for it.

[@lanetaglio]

@@durstongear..Yes please,..see 6:30 kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6WZgnWrpM-aeNU

[@lanetaglio]

@@durstongear ..Thanks for your reply and passion to improve! I'll be ordering your Xmid1p/dyneema (upon release) and LOVE your pack,..would just REALLY love it with MLD type straps with the offset dyneema grid and NON yoke style!! Thank you again!! Lane

[@kizino7696]

Hi Dan, does the X-Mid 2 fit in the side pocket?

[@durstongear]

The X-Mid 2 can pack into any shape because it doesn't have poles or struts. In the stock stuff sack it would be a bit thick, but you could easily swap that for a longer/slimmer stuff sack that would allow it to fit into the side pocket.

[@Martycycleman]

Would it be good to demonstrate this pack while wearing it?

[@durstongear]

Yeah that would be good.

[@paulkhanna1]

This is the pack of my dreams.

[@durstongear]

Thanks Paul!

[@wchristian2000]

Sweet!!

[@kimberlythayer4857]

Awesome pack ! I'm 5' 4 and I measure to an 18 torso would I go with the small or medium my only other backpack is the Mile by waymark and I love the way that fits .

[@durstongear]

How tall is the torso on your Mile? Usually people at 5'4" prefer a small, although 18" is in the medium range. If you are definiately 18" then you probably want a medium.

[@kimberlythayer4857]

@@durstongear Thank you so much for the reply this is from the Waymark site Torso: One size fits most, technical torso measurement is 12-14” This pack is also a great choice for smaller hikers and kids. I measured and it's close to a 17 .

[@durstongear]

@@kimberlythayer4857 Good to know. Based on that fitting well, you'd likely be best off with our small.

[@kimberlythayer4857]

@@durstongear I just bought the small I'm feeling pretty good about that since I like the smallness of the Mile . Thanks again and continued success !

[@debraonthego3960]

Absolutely love the features of this pack! Especially the strap pockets and the side pocket zipper!! Unfortunately 40L is too small for me, Please make a similar pack that’s bigger!!! 😃😃Lol!

[@durstongear]

We're working on a 55L version as well. That's late 2022/early 2023 though.

[@Coolness59]

@@durstongear I’m currently carrying an Osprey Atmos AG 65, which is a great pack but weighs almost 6 lbs. Will the 55 L. be comparable? The design of the 40 looks to be large enough for multi-day trips….

[@aurtisanminer2827]

This pack reminds me so much of my ULA circuit that i love. But this has a few benefits over the circuit. I especially like the frame!

[@durstongear]

The ULA packs are really nice. I haven't used the Circuit but I used the Ohm on the PCT in 2014 and had a Circuit around that time too.

[@aurtisanminer2827]

@@durstongear this looks like a cross between the ohm and circuit, actually. The circuit has foam padding on the back while the ohm does not. The circuit has a more robust frame than the ohm, too. Otherwise they are pretty similar.

[@sebastienparent4659]

Looks nice. I hope the 55L version will be released.

[@tarafrey-durston2606]

55L is in the works!

[@sinclairgonsalves1418]

Here’s a question and it’s a slightly silly one. I don’t want to go about buying multiple packs for my day hikes and my multi day hikes. I know this pack does well for multiple day hikes, I want to know if it is good for single day hikes?

[@durstongear]

Thanks for your interest. Yes this pack can be used for day hikes. Of course it's a bit heavier than a smaller frameless pack, but it can roll down to reduce the volume and works fine.

[@leecasteen]

Waterproofness? Assume it's fully seamsealed?

[@tarafrey-durston2606]

Taken from the website, under FAQ: Is this pack waterproof? The Ultra 200 material is 100% waterproof with an impenetrable plastic backing on the Ultra 200 fabric that is much more durable than traditional PU coatings. We think it is functionally waterproof since the fabric is waterproof and the roll top closure keeps out water, but trace amounts of water can get in via the seams which are not taped. We do not tape the seams partly because bound seams are stronger, but also because our more capable frame requires seams that are too complex to be seam taped (e.g. many layers of material sewn into the seams). You will only find seam taped packs with frameless or more rudimentary frame designs. If you would like to take your pack from extremely water resistant to truly waterproof, we recommend seam sealing the pack.

[@ИванСурменко-в4д]

Рюкзак супер! Просто бомба!! После войны куплю себе!

[@durstongear]

Спасибо за добрые слова и интерес! Надеюсь, война скоро закончится.

[@ИванСурменко-в4д]

@@durstongear и вам за поддержку!! Если не вы ,тут везде была б Бучя!!!

[@tommanseau6277]

I really like thet looks of this pack. If/when I get a new pack, this is a strong contender. I think anyone who's dealt with the whole "did someone actually use this in the field" moments can appreciate what you are talking about. Nissan years ago had a great tag line: everything you need, nothing you don't. I think this qualifies. Some feedback to improve the next video: 1. If you could have someone else wear and use the pack in the way you are describing, it will go a long way to showing and not just telling how well these features work. 2. Please limit the number of times you say super.

[@durstongear]

Thanks Tom.

[@ello1234567]

Do you have a time line in mind for the 55L version?

[@durstongear]

About January. You can sign up for notification on durstongear.com on the 40 L page and we will email that same list when the 55 L is out. Thanks.