Best Value Gravel Bike Under $2K?!

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

My Honest Opinion of Cannondale Lefty Topstone: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmTXe6GsjbCGhrM

[@the_yankee_joiner]

I worked at the local shop level for years. When Canyon hit the market we hated them. As a cyclist who now has to pay normal, non pro form prices I love the concept. I now refer to them as the “ex mechanics special". The Endurance CF I bought last year is as good as the equivalent spec’d red “S" model. That purp drank color is reason enough to buy that Grizl let alone the fact they have it on sale for $1600.

[@josephcaserta5692]

For curiosity sake, what about Canyon didn't you like? I've been eyeing their bikes for a while now.

[@smccrode]

@@josephcaserta5692it’s because they worked at a physical store. So, direct to consumer is always “hated” because they are less expensive thus reducing the number of bikes sold in store.

[@sjcKsyrium]

@@smccrode Yes, and No. Typically what I see is Fantastic marketing and sloppy support after the sale. 1 guy got very lucky they warrantied his 3-4 month old cracked frame.

[@shamuslamont100]

IMO, Canyon are still too expensive. The bike industry has to come back to sanity.

[@joeylepore]

Dude...I can't imagine, or believe why you don't have at least, 1,000,000 subs! The work and effort you put into creating your videos deserves AWARDS!

[@IronHorsey3]

Too Portlandia with the puke purple. That’s why.

[@mitchsmith6370]

Facts! This is one of the best biking channels there is.

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Wow, thank you!

[@thommackris920]

Ignore the haters. Well done!​@@EverythingsBeenDone

[@johnmarkbennett7032]

Been road biking for years but was interested in trying out the gravel craze. Didn’t want to drop an insane amount of money for a quality Gravel bike so I love what brands like Canyon and Fezzari offer. More for less. After seeing this video I pulled the trigger on getting one for myself. Couldn’t be more stoked! Never thought I would’ve ever bought a Fuchsia colored bike but really, it’s sick! Also great content! Thanks for the work you put in and the quality in which you do it.

[@roadstomovement]

This is the most awesome bike review I've ever seen, love it!

[@biged123543]

Nice! My wife has the 6 on order. Similat bike with 2x grx400 looks like like a pretty sweet setup for 1300 bucks

[@Yurkevich22]

it's kind of insane calling near $2K bike - entry level....good bike though.

[@julianrime8544]

I would probably call it lower midrange, its not high end but Its not low end either.

[@romand123]

Iduno, even if you make $500/wk that’s a months pay for a bike you can ride and enjoy and keep for years. Kinda makes sense that in 2023 $1800 is the new “affordable” imo.

[@glenzigdan]

Yeah let's see some Claris 8 speed!

[@angruwasp8782]

Don't expect a round BB thread on a Canyon bice at this low end range. Probably welded by their blind Chinese division too.

[@KOL630]

That’s pocket change these days when you compare to some lol.

[@zappenduster7]

I got a Canyon Neuron and I´m mucho impressed with the stock accessories and wheelset it came with. No changes besides saddle.

[@fabiankohler6023]

Can you install enough gear for bikepacking on it?

[@zappenduster7]

​@@fabiankohler6023 It´s full suspension, so I think there are better bikes for bikepacking. Small Mtb triangle and has no mounting on the shock fork... The dropper post is also not ideal for a rear rack.

[@fabiankohler6023]

@@zappenduster7ok, thank you!

[@mattwilliams3104]

I'm looking to finally pull the trigger on a good quality, versatile, gravel bike and happened upon your channel and absolutely love your approach to showcasing bikes. Concise, entertaining, good editing, and very even volume tones with no wind noise. Well done! Also this bike is at the top of my list from the research I've done.

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Matt, I appreciate your good words. IF you go with the Canyon let them know I sent you ;)

[@HAL29209]

"Ooh I'm stopping.... ooh safety first" absolutely floored me lol

[@briandoll]

I have and LOVE that saddle. A cheap, short, crazy comfy gravel saddle that feels just right. I hear you on the sticky factor, but I like that vibe, the more "slippery" saddles can be challenging on a gravel or mtb because slipping out of position is worse than a temporary adjustment of starting in the wrong position, IMHO

[@larsborghouts8360]

I have the same bike, and switched out the saddle as well, for it being too sticky. Just goes to show that saddle choice is very personal.

[@michaelgustav3035]

Saddle is good 👍😊.. personal preference 4 sure 😊👍👋

[@bradleyortego4662]

The diversity of bikes on this ride is amazing. Run what you brung. You will not have the correct bike for some part of the ride and that's alright. So good.

[@mmmixmaster]

WHY DOES THIS GUY ONLY HAVE LIKE 100k SUB??!?! subbed!

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

🤜❤️🤛

[@vmxd]

I was thinking about grizl, but decided to go with cheap Poseidon X Ambition and upgrade it with few parts.. since I am more MTB, and gravel is not my primary bike. love it.. the only con - max tire width is like 44mm for 700C wheels and 1.9-2 for 650b...

[@JBthePAdashC]

Yes!!!! This is the review I’ve been waiting for!!! I am in LOVE with that Grape Grizl!

[@matigati8]

Hey Dustin! I've got a Canyon Grail Al with electronic shifters and bought the AXS dropper and it's so much fun. The fender situation is something you got to get from Canyon themselves. Got rid of the butt-rubber as well. Munched away my pants! Thanks for the awesome vids and keep on Gravlin'!

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

That is awesome!

[@larsborghouts8360]

I have got those canyon fenders, they are solid!

[@PeterVonDanczk]

The thing with Canyon is if you want no-problem 10-minute assembly accessories (mudguards, racks, kickstands) then you have to go with their stuff. They are good, they fit perfectly but yeah... that's a vendor lock-in.

Great video, Dustin! I have a Grizl 7 AL suspension and it works like a charm. I agree on the saddle being too grippy and I will be changing it. I also had some doubts about riding on the road, but now it's totally fine. Cheers! 🍻

[@ViciousPossum]

I recently bought the Grizl CF-SL7. Made it tubeless and changed that horrific saddle. The bike is fantastic!

[@jaishammer1]

I ride a Grail AL and love it. Canyon sell their own fender kit that goes to those small bolt holes and it is actually really good right out the box. Mine is on the bike all year.

[@fpmulich1]

I have a Canyon Grizl CF SL 7 1by and I love it. I did upgrade the saddle immediately but that's standard practice and upgraded the wheels a few months after purchase. Got her down to 19 pounds!

[@falcoperegrinus82]

I have the Grizl CF SL 7. Been riding it almost every day for a year and a half now. Love it! The saddle mine came with might be worse than the one yours came with tho as at least yours has the channel in the middle. An advantage of the AL frame is that it has rear rack mounts that the CF lacks. The bike has an "aggressive" stack and reach so flipping the stem was a must for me.

[@ericmontgomery7477]

Bought a Grail Al at the beginning of covid. Bought the Canyon fenders - they come with the proper bolts for those lil holes - they are great!!

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

I was looking for those on the website and it only showed fenders for the Grail. So I didn’t know if the grizzle Ashley had its own fenders. Now I know and thank you.

[@kayakbloomington937]

Grizl fenders have been out of stock forever :(

[@hamm410]

Agreed, I have the 2020 Grail and while I wish there were more options for fenders, the Canyon ones are solid.

[@joaofilipenunesferreiradef3454]

Have one the same Colour, grx also 2x front. But the frame finish It’s smooth, you can’t see the welding in the frame. Mine’s last year model.

[@darrinschwarz7446]

One month ago I got the CF SL 8 in rim brake mafia. You're right the saddle has to go, way too grippy. I slapped on some Mercury S5's with 28mm tires. I'm really digging this bike. Note: sizes run big so talk to a rep before ordering.

[@Irish2086]

I bought this bike for my gf last summer! It is the greatest cyclo touring, gravel grinder and all around fun machine ever.

[@Demdere]

I would love to see you review a completely entry level state bike (4130 all road) and then put some mods (like brakes and your other stock complaints) on it for

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHfFiaSmlpqonZI Have you seen this?

[@themihaherbst]

Bike and shoe color 🙌 and that bunny hop from Mr. D 👊

[@theymademepickaname1248]

Hardtail mtb > gravel bike.

[@sergeykartashov994]

bunny hop was awesome!

[@gravelmicha]

i love my grizl! My 8th Canyon since 2000. Tip: Also a good colour matching for the canyon matchia (green/grey) colour is the specialized Recon 2.0 Gravel/Road bike Shoe in blue (the blue is more of a grey).

[@ToddSloanIAAN]

Man, I think you are a magician with putting this adventure together for my viewing on a Saturday night!

[@josh33172]

The only thing weird is the geo and sizing on the Canyon Grizl. But I'd also hardly call it an "entry level" aluminum @ just under $2k. It's an entry level in their lineup, but hardly entry level in the market. The 700x50 Aggregates are great tires. I have a set of those along with 700x50 Kimberlites, also fantastic! They both roll along smooth and quiet, and they're very durable/reliable. In 2yrs I've never got a puncture with either set!

[@Roma_Ste]

Добрий день. Який у вас зріст та який розмір рами обрали. Зарання дякую❤

[@deansmith1506]

Great vibe in this video! I came for that sexy bike, I stayed for the style.

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

PLAYER!!

[@duoxm6713]

I have the Canyon Grizl (Carbon Fiber) since it came out. Absolute love it.

[@TheJoeOption]

I got the carbon version of this (at a nice discount because of my job). Swapped the saddle to something more comfortable. Put a wolftooth roadlink and a spuper wide 11-42t cassette on the 2x so I have tons of range for making it through hard climbs even though I'm not the most fit rider in the group. Put a more flared handlebar on for personal preference. The fenders were in stock in Germany so I have them on. Made it though tons of muddy and wet rides recently staying prettty clean compared to my group :) I actually really like the grippy saddle on my fixed gear bike though. It has so many mounts and is such a solid bike, I still go back and forth on whether I should have gotten the Alu version for the extra rack mounts. But the Alu version doesn"t come in the Curry Yellow color :)

[@justinspelatz2351]

I have this pink beauty and I love it. Ive been a die hard enduro rider for ever, and bought this bike to dip my toes into gravel riding. What a BA machine! I did 30 miles my first ride on it because it was so fun and zoomy haha.

[@Storiada]

Man, the video is so awesome and you deserve more views. I can't wait to receive the Grizl 8 1by EKAR. I have already a MTB grand Canyon CF SL 6.9 and a CF SF carbon.. and they are greaaaaat.

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Ohh man Im stoked for your Ekar Grizl thats going to so much fun!

[@Oscar-gy3yj]

You should do a review on the Poseidon x bike

[@markuslaudenbach9]

This is a great video and the Capita Neo Slasher in the back made it even better. I like this guy.

[@stefanvali100]

I ride with he Grizl CF SL 7 eTap, its a great bike. It's been my first direct to consumer bike, had some minor issues with the seat clamp but canyon sorted out right away. I also appreciate canyon offering a true XXL frame that fits taller riders.

[@JBPorter]

An XXL?! How tall are you? Usually ride MTBs but looking at the Grizl and at 5'11" canyon is saying small frame?!

[@omarrahman5532]

I have this bike in green and I love it. Mine came with a WTB saddle, and I switched the carbon seat post to a Tranz X suspension seat post.

[@JollyGiant0]

I have a Canyon Aeroad, its damn fast, feels fast, but you can still ride century's (miles) with ease. I also have a Grail Sl with the hover bar and split seat post running 38's and 2X. It the perfect all round weapon. Not as fast as the Aeroad but more than capable on-road and is tough enough for abuse off-the-road too and with the 48th big ring you can go faaast on the smooth gravel/ fire roads here in the UK.. Great content.

[@_MattyG_]

Science has proven the compliance of frame material is MINUTE compared to your seatpost, wheels, tires, and bars. All those play a much larger factor! But great video. Budget builds are the baaaaaast

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

This is what I like to hear!

[@dogwelder]

I'm a road bike person, but I just got this bike. I took it for its first ride today, and I dig it. I don't hate the saddle, but I did regret forgetting my gloves- my hands wanted more padding.

[@KnotenFreaky]

Got my hands on a grail and lovin' it. Know the issue with the fenders but there is a solution! Canyon sales specific fendors for their bikes. Easy to install but sadly a little bit to short. Ride on 🤙

[@OldSchoolBaby_WWNB_pl]

nice work👏

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

🤜❤️🤛

[@alexandrealencar1796]

Great video, really helped me on my decision. Keep it up!

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Glad to hear it!

[@DeeYanKeymusic]

changed the saddle of my grizl at once to a wtb gravelier. great.

[@supremeuppercut]

Considered a Grizl before I landed on my Hakka. Nice bike!

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Good call!

[@Ogyeet518]

I love m’y Grizl !! I just had a problem with the crankset but all good. The bike versatile and fast. I agree with your cons and it needs a dropper for sure haha

[@flo_fet]

I just ordered Grizl 7 AL with a suspension fork, 2by (matcha). Was "forced" due to out of stock of the other one with rigid fork, because who knows when it will be available again. Didn't want to wait and hope. Paid extra 200 Euro. Hope I made a right choice! Can't wait to try it!

[@ericpeterson4489]

Hi there, I have the Grizl CF 7 and just love it!! I did replace the handle bar for a carbon one, the saddle and put a redshift stem on it. Thanks for great video content! 😊

[@Frangrance]

have a very similar grizl AL, same colour, but with the double chainrings. I love it, as you noticed too I changed the saddle with a Prologo but for the rest it's 100% stock and works great. Best money ever spent on a bike.

[@Esbbbb]

You can still support the small business and your local bike shop if you take the disassembled bike to a mechanic to assemble it for you. :) A bit extra cost but still probably lower than having a middle distributor.

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Love this!

[@BabycakesBeats]

I got the Grizl 8 and I am super happy with it. Just finished my first 4 day trip with the bike and could not be more happy.

[@toddfears5133]

Keep making vids, I don’t have time for that long of rides, but I am living vicariously through y’all 😂

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

I GOT YOU🤘🏻

[@jamiel6169]

I have a Canyon Grail AL as my intro to a "real" bike and so far I'm loving it! (After you know, putting hundreds of miles on a Schwinn from the 90s...)

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Respect to you Jamie! Love hearing about your journey with cycling thus far! Those Grails are legit.

[@tjbarke6086]

TIME FOR DAT SWALE TUBER!

[@sergeykartashov994]

Hello,Dustin! As for me I like every movie you made. if I have electricity I will watch it))) it is very interesting for me how people ride in US))) different weather and landscapes,people and their bikes are so cool))) Ukraine, Kharkiv.

[@landonthings]

Ron coughing at the end got me hahaha 😂

[@kimrice394]

The shoe/bike matchy match game is STRONG! Much enve😜

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

❤

[@Felco6]

Great video. Nice combination of fun, fact and opinion. Strong technical/aesthetic as well. Happy trails!

[@marcokalle2452]

It's just too bad that a lot of potentially amazing bikes skip on proper fender and rack mounts. Living in the rainy dutch lowlands, that would lean to a no for me. How hard can it be to include them, the majority of people are not that (gravel)race focused. Rides/races! 🤘🏽😎 Oh and kudos for those Adidas kicks, love them!! 🙌🏾

[@Two_rack_Trev]

I have a canyon Lux World Cup CF mtb and I love it, rides super nice and the remote lockout is sweet.

[@austinroutten3269]

Just got the Grizl SL7 carbon a week ago and am loving it! My first carbon bike upgrading from a salsa journeyman and holy cow.

[@TheSirigan]

Great video, loved the edit with the music, and cutscenes. I got a Grizl 7 Al too and really enjoy it! It's fast, capable and reasonably comfortable. On top of the saddle I switched the handlebars as well, rather poor stock bars

[@calebcampbell9460]

underestimating ppl, they're crazier than you think, they ride in all types of weather all the time for no reason!!! they're not even getting paid lol LOVE IT! cant wait to get my Trek ALR 5

[@wovenskin]

I had to watch @3:07 a few times to figure out what you did there. Nice editing!

[@pookienumnums]

the section with the grx stock bit.. pure lols

[@johngibson1072]

Got a Canyon Grail CFsomething-7. (The one with the floater bar/stem combination - which looks very cool.) The bike is generally good, but a couple of issues were: - the BB was crap-plastic. - Replaced that trash with with a bbinfinite, and creak fest is over. Much better. - the headset just will not stay setup right. Following C's instructions for assembly, torques etc. It works itself loose and you get slop in the front end. Bottom line, tighten it up again and again and agin... Overall my impression is that Canyon is not such a great deal. Next time I'll go with a maker that doesn't do weird shit with critical part designs (the headset) and doesn't hide garbage (that BB) in the frame to save a few bucks.

[@williamwyoming]

Great review! I love the looks of that bike. Modern aluminum frames are much better than the early years. Those first gen cannondales (had an '85) were harsh. Will you talk about those shoes more?

[@evilstars]

Hey Dustin! How cool are your videos. Thank you for that quality. Greetings from Ibiza!

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Hey, thanks!

[@michaelbeuoy4293]

Once upon a time during a live show, I stated I rode a purple bike. Well you found my purple bike and I love my Canyons have a Neuron as well!

[@Big2Planker]

Have had a Grail for nearly three years - LOVE IT! Got it just before the Grizl was announced. Going back to Koblenz in a couple weeks to try one for my wife.

[@BrundonC]

How tall are you? Their site guides me to a M which is odd. I’m almost 6’ 1” and every other bike brand I’m a L or XL I notice you’re on a L I’d love your feedback on sizing.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Canyon is amazing. They don't skimp on the kit... Selle Italia saddles... GP5000 tires (on the road bikes)... DT Swiss wheels... all for cheaper direct-to-consumer prices.

[@yanolamonza8290]

Every time I consider another Canyon, I wince at how terrible the headsets are then somehow find myself with a Canyon order receipt in my inbox. Cant explain it.

[@cyclingcalifornia510]

I love, love,love canyon. Have an endurace di2 and grand canyon hardtail. If you know what you want without trying out bikes there is no better option. Their fit guide is spot on.

[@JeremyHighsmith]

Canyon Ultimate owner since 2020 and love it. My only complaint would be the 1 1/4” steerer tube width which makes the inevitable post purchase stem customization a pain

[@krissantana4660]

Just found your channel, I appreciate the production quality and nice edit, subbed.

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Much appreciated!

[@bierzoelite8875]

❤the video man !!! wish I was there with you guys !

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Player!

[@leapyear9460]

You ran american classsic tire on the front. Wanted to mention ive been running their "Lamplighter' tire in 650b and they're amazing. Thx for the video Roscoe

[@Maks4e]

Definitely like my Grizl CF SL 6 with 2x10 GRX for big bikepacking adventures with pretty long paved sections.

[@mathewemden2068]

I've been canyon curious for a while!

[@daan-marijntheunissen3523]

I’ve ordered this bike (2x not 1x and matcha, not grape) today and can’t wait till it arrives. I live in the Netherlands and have got a road bike and Xc bike. But I think this bike will be perfect for the terrain over here and there are gravel routes and events all over the place. I will have to wait 3 months tho…

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

YOU will be stoked!

[@catskillmtnsmtb6147]

Dude i've been on the fence about a grizl. Thanks for this. I'm jumping it on it now.

[@filmsbyphil]

Great video - you guys are so lucky with the amazing terrain you have to ride on - those views!!!!! I’m a big fan of canyons - I have their endurance road bike, and have had a grail previously as well.

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

We are blessed with the train, but we pay for it with the weather. 🤣 Appreciate you, Phillip

[@roctavio]

Where did you ride?

[@danawise9882]

Lovin’ the channel!

[@EverythingsBeenDone]

Appreciate you Dana!

[@TheCyclingVet]

I have a Canyon Endurace CF8 LTD. Love it! Definitely looking at a Grizl.

[@gwynnlyell2539]

I almost bought a Canyon a few years ago. I still love my Chumba Terlingua, steel. Ordered it straight from Chumba, had it together in under an hour. Canyon still interests me.

[@kaketotak]

I got 2 Canyon’s, road and gravel, absolutely love it.

[@KOL630]

I have a 2021 Grail AL 6. Quality bike. I got some posh DT Swiss carbon gravel wheels and it’s transformed it further. Don’t need a posh expensive frame. The tech in bikes is so good now. Wheels make the biggest difference to performance and weight saving. Canyons are great value for the money. My only gripe is that the frames are mostly made in China.

[@aaronedgeart]

That's one of the top rides we got, soooo good. Nice to see uncle Seth in the mix!!!! I agree on aluminum frames as long as we run the bigger+tubeless tire setup. Great review.

[@SteveBrehaut]

Where is this ride? Wow looks fun.

[@aaronedgeart]

@@SteveBrehaut This is parts of The Dalles Mountain 60 (if not mistaken).

[@bgfb]

Cool Video! Did a small test ride on one last year and was impressed for the money.........Purchased a CF SL 7 1by with the dropper and rode it for 6-7 months. It came with the same terrible seat and the same gearing. I quickly swapped out the stock 42t for a 46t xt cassette and it was a much better climber. I had a few issues with the seat post slipping which seems to be kind of a thing with some Canyon's, however Canyon has good support and helped to sort out.

[@LarryMullins111]

I also have the Canyon Grizl...light green color 2x drivetrain...love it!

[@Oliver-xz9km]

The scenery! Wow!

[@nickgalley1626]

Great vid once again Dustin! I have the Grizl CF SL 7 eTap since late 2021. Now gone full Xplr mode with dropper and Rudy fork and it’s one hell of a mountain machine but a load more fun than those ‘official’ mountain machine bicycles. Plus there ain’t no mountains on the South Coast UK 🤦🏻‍♂️ Don bike tho 😂

[@itsaprilespi]

The was fun to watch! :)

[@neilclarke-smith9431]

I got a Canyon Grizl CF 7 Rival AXS last year and it has been my everything bike. It's tremendous off-road and yet with a spare set of wheels running Panaracer 622-40 slicks it hoons along on road rides fast enough. Can't fault it - as for the mudguards/fenders I got them when I ordered the bike but they're the same as the Grail:ON set

[@sandrochiavaro7831]

I literally been looking at this exact machine dude. Look forward to see your insights.

[@Velobetty]

Yeah, I don't like a grippy saddle either. I'm a "shuffler" on the saddle and constantly move around, unless I'm on the track when I'm in one position but not for very long. Not sure why I needed to share that really. Cool story. 😊

[@mtbkng8266]

Thanks for video,.....waiting for the Grizl CF SLX 8 eTap Suspension in XL to hit he market, these bikes are the best value going right now.....