What's REALLY The Difference Between Gravel Bikes?

With gravel fever spreading faster than ever, Si decided it was time to investigate the differences between two epic gravel bikes. He compares the performance gravel racing bike, Canyon Grail, and the gravel adventure bike, Canyon Grizl. What are their key strengths and is there really a difference between them? Si talks you through the essential bike features, including clearance, tyre width, comfort and much more!
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00:00 Intro
00:24 The gravel bikes
03:23 Tyre clearance
04:20 Tyre width
07:00 Stability
08:20 Handling
09:07 Weight
10:36 Comfort
11:30 Suspension
12:17 Mount points
13:10 Conclusion
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[@gcn]

Which bike would you choose? Performance or Adventure? 🤨

[@SirSweatpants]

Adventure all the way!

[@generaphaelian8893]

Giant Revolt with its rear dropout "flip chip" which allows me to run it in an aggressive race setting, or in a chilled out adventure setting, with clearance for wider tires. Best of both worlds.

[@IsleofMull2011]

Performance, as I would use it for gravel, and a bit of road riding...

[@lilbruin]

Another vote for adventure Grizl, please. I can max my adventure threshold watching paint dry, but this looks close to the perfect bike. Anything works in the city but something that gets me safely and comfortably off the highway is great.

[@dwizzle504]

Performance

[@Katie-rf5vx]

Only GCN can do a video that’s entirely an advert and it still be decent content and entertaining

[@christocan4710]

Maybe. But why does a brand need to buy that much of advertising? Are their products actually not good enough to „speak for themselves“?

[@Mas421]

@@christocan4710Canyon is well known for aggressive marketing….

[@danielakerman8241]

What do you mean? That’s been Top Gear’s whole shtick for 20 years! GCN just borrowed the formula and applied it to bikes!

[@SamuelLudden]

​@@christocan4710that's how advertising works. Most people have to be told what's out there. Not everyone browses forum posts about the minutia of every bike, and would rather have someone show them

[@niekpriest8046]

I already own a Grizl but still i loved the video

[@willallen9888]

When the new Grail came out, I had major bike envy. I have the Grizl CF SLX, but worried I would wish I had the Grail. Based on this video, the terrain I like to ride, and the adventures I wish to go on, the bike envy is gone and I'm even more happy with my Grizl! Thanks for this video.

[@zMee85]

@gcn you are on a different level with all your videos. I almost spit my tea over the table seeing si with this short. Please, I mean PLEASE!!!!! keep going with this content. You make my days and my love for riding bikes so much more. The whole gcn crew is in my heart for the tears, sweat and smiles you have on your face riding these awesome bikes!!!! Big love

[@gcn]

We love creating all our videos for you! Great to hear that you enjoy them too... Si and his short shorts aren't going anywhere 😉

[@AQUPAS]

I own a Canyon Grizl CF SL 8 (2x GRX) and the thing is a beast on all surfaces. Either way you can't go wrong with a Canyon and German engineering 👍👍

[@alanwaddington7694]

bought the Grizl recently and love it

[@pokie0622]

This video was well done and informative.

[@Bike4Coffee-Cake]

Love the video 😂. Keep the fun! Given the choice, Grail for me. 42mm is wide enough for what I do (bad roads, light gravel, light bike-packing).

[@tiagosantos6273]

The video that i wanted 😊 Thank you GCN

[@JimStepsride]

Thanks for the visual, I cannot ever unsee you in jorts!

[@user-lo7pt4kd8l]

I've got a little over a year on my Grizl. Install 42 mill tires and I'm completely happy.

[@smac5479]

A factor for me was groupset compatibility, i wanted a winter road bike, a turbo bike and a gravel bike I can also bike pack and CX on... so glad I went for a Grizl ! I just swap out the wheels for my road DT swiss wheels, both 11-speed, change to road pedals and I'm sorted, think I'm beginning to like my Grizl better than my summer super bike that cost 4 times the amount even though the Grizl is entry level 😊

[@philipbrandish4330]

Also relevant is what other bikes you have. I have a Grizl and an Endurace - very nice combo. But I agree max tire clearance and whether you plan to bikepack is probably the best way to choose. I rode VT Overland this year on 45s/Grizl and I am glad I was not running 40s as I typically do on that bike!!

[@kannibalkev]

Thanks for another informative commentary Si. I just pulled the trigger on the Canyon Grizl CF SLX 8 AXS Trail, my first gravel bike and my first Canyon! It seems to me the Grizl is the perfect Adventure bike with tons of Performance capable features that lie somewhere between my Colnago C64 with Campy Super Record EPS and my Eriksen FS MTB with SRAM XX. I'm looking forward to putting it through the paces. Cheers! 😎

[@mariuscpeter]

Both, darn it! Can't really decide which one. I like to replace my road bike therefore the Grail would make more sense but I love the leaf seat post on the Grizl. Hmmm

[@mikedittsche]

I own a Grizl CF SLX with Ekar. I love it. I didn't go for the Grail because I wanted it to feel sufficiently different from my road bike, at the other side of the spectrum so to say. It is great for rough offroad - single trail mountain bike terrain and I feel confident even jumping with it. And on paved roads it feels surprisingly fast - something I didn't expect given the 45mm wide tires.

[@JMatic-xk9vq]

Same here - I have an Aeroad and wanted a wider spread - so I have chosen the Grizl.

[@ComedyTVWeb]

🔥 so grateful to this video

[@roomwworkshop]

I would like to choose Grail because I will do some gravel races and also I could change the narrow tyres for on-road. Thanks GCN to make this video for more understanding of these two bikes.

[@Acousticmarine678]

I like the new Grail, but 42mm don't cut it on the rough stuff. I've been riding the A Grizl CF8slx Di2grx for about two years now. I love the lower gearing on the GRX groupset. I replaced the stem and seat post with redshift suspension parts, this helps my 63 year old body with the rougher stuff. If you're not riding for money, I would go for a Grizl.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

Can't see myself ever riding tires narrower than 40 on a gravel bike. That leaves little wiggle room

[@galenkehler]

That's the whole point (stated in the video, btw). The grail isn't for the "rough stuff".

[@cjohnson3836]

@@galenkehler for the average rider, that's not true. We don't have multiple bikes for every niche. More importantly though, the grail isn't even carrying the best tire size for the moderate stuff. Canyons riders can say what they want, and they are heavily Euro centric in their views, all being former tour riders. Independent testing is showing more and more that even on moderate terrain (basically most of US gravel thats not unbound or big sugar, the new UCI gravel course they ran this year, etc) 45-50mm is faster than 38-42mm. The reason being multiple. Aero losses are not as severe as people think, esp for the speeds of those of us not being paid to ride hours/day. Wider means more stability and thus you can carry faster speeds through both cornering and washed out terrain (I can push about 4mph faster through the sand pits normal for my location on my knobby 50mm than my narrower gravel semi slick). Innovation in tread arrangements and tire compounds have greatly minimized rolling resistance as XC technology gets integrated into gravel. There's really no reason any of us should be worried about sub 45mm tires anymore. They just don't get you enough to be worthwhile, and carry many detriments.

[@galenkehler]

@@cjohnson3836 no, there are hundreds of gravel bikes that fit larger tires. The grail just edges more toward the smoother side. Lots of people want a "Road+" bike and this fits right there, without the compromise that wider tires force the stays and chainrings out.

[@Shellewell]

And here I am riding relatively knobbly 25mms on everything 😅

[@NerfTubeNation]

I use a tail fin on my older Grail CF to add bags.

[@smoothespike]

Currently ride an Endurace CF SL - Road wheels for the road and pushed the tyre clearance with 35mm Schwalbe's on the stock wheels for "light gravel". Having done a couple of Gravel rides last year, this setup is going to struggle when things get a bit muddy. Timely video, but still torn. Heart says the new Grail (although can't afford that CFR model!) and Head says Grizl as that would compliment current setup when needing to go on the rougher/muddy stuff and provides a potentially easier path to bike packing options.

[@michaelhurn2703]

Really nice video! Looking for the best group-set option on this bike, would like to hear any recommendations. I will be riding on the road for about 50% of the time and other 50% gravel, thus would want something to go ah higher speeds. I also live in a relatively flat area with almost no climbs. Which chain-rings/group-set would you recommend?

[@jaimerojas7695]

I am on the market to upgrade my gravel bike. Currently running a Cannondale CAAD X (Cyclocross bike). I own a Canyon Ultimate and have been looking closely at a Grizl, but this new Grail has really peaked my interest!

[@Bicycle_Pam]

That was great. Really helpful. We bike a lot and I have a Salsa but am looking for front suspension and lighter weight. I was convinced about the Grizl…. But canyon did not have my size. 🙁. Keep the shorts.

[@s1ngularityxd64]

can't wait for my grail di2 slx to arrive 😍

[@gcn]

Enjoy! It's a great bike 🙌 We would love to see it up on the bike vault! 👉 GCN.app/eu

[@MT-fh9qy]

Another great review. Thanks! So I bought thre Endurace during Covid (Grail out of stock) and put gravel tyres on it. Like it but gearing wasn’t what I needed. Just got the Grizl youve reviewed and LOVE it. Taking it everywhere - from serious gravel, two track and pretty technical (for me at least) single track. Perfect bike for me. Love the Di2 as well. Would recommend to anyone looking for that “one perfect bike”.

[@TyTy22_]

So glad you guys made this video as it’s something I’m seriously debating at the moment. The 2XL Grail is what Canyon’s website is recommending for me, but its reach and wheel base are huge compared to my 2XL Grizl. An XL Grail is almost the exact same geometry as a 2XL Grizl, so I’m wondering if that would be the correct size for me. But when I tried running an 80mm stem on my Grizl, I would have an issue with feeling like I’m dumping my bike every time I would slightly shift the handlebars. Also, paused the video just to give a thumbs-up for jorts Si

[@smup2I]

Top tube length is ~30mm longer on the grail, for that the stem is 20mm shorter and the head tube angle is ~1° slacker. So it all balances out and I would go with the same size.

[@TyTy22_]

@@smup2Ireally appreciate the comment, thank you

[@Alioopsist]

Csn I ask how tall are you and your leg inseam, thanks

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Awesome & Thanks :)

[@Asaya911]

Thank you 😊

[@denisaraujo86]

I have a Canyon CF SL 7 with Hover Bar, it’s actually a very fast bike to be gravel bike and very quick response, I like it and I also use it as a second road bike with thinner tires, overall is a great bike, the only thing that I’d complain is why having that high performance the cables aren’t integrated 😔

[@ThomasNing]

to make it easier to service if you have a cable snap while you're out on adventure right?

[@Willinator]

would have been cool to see the grizl with the suspension fork but still a great video

[@dsmithmcse]

I'm not a racer nor am I young and fast. When I bought my gravel bike, which happens to be a Canyon, I went with the Grizl and I also went with the aluminum frame. Again, I'm not a racer, and to be honest I also not a gram counter. I do have to say that I 100% love my Grizl. It has rigid forks, but I've added a Redshift Shockstop stem @90mm and totally love the added vibration dampening. However, the Grizl is not as comfortable as my DIY bamboo gravel bike I built using the Bamboo Bicycle Club DIY kit. My bamboo bike totally eats up all road/gravel vibrations which in-turn leads to a more comfortable and less tiring ride. Would love to see GCN do an episode on the Bamboo Bicycle Club DIY kit and then put it through it's paces.

[@jhoff80]

Do those leafspring seatposts really make much of a difference with comfort? My commuter hybrid bike has a suspension seat post that uses elastomers and I'm not quite sure I even notice a difference.

[@johnlieto8906]

Jeans shorts!!! my family wound disown me if I wore those :0. Great video as always Sy!

[@gcn]

No offence... Your family have no sense of style 😂

[@tiger2too18]

Grail with a second set of 32 mm tyres for road / touring . Both are good looking. Grail with clip on bike frame storage is sml and light.

[@festerofest4374]

Those Jean shorts….. you guys are hilarious!

[@JollyGiant0]

Buy the old Grail (Hover bar version) and get performance and comfort with split seat post and double bars that work well.

[@scottbussom6155]

I have the Grizl SLX Di2..I spent lots of time deciding what to get and got the bike a month ago and am so glad I chose it! I think the Tire Clearance should really be as much as possible. This way you can and up the tires if you want and use two wheel sets with options to span smooth road and roudy off roading. The Grail Tire clearance restriction seems like too much of a sacrifice. The Grizl keeps option open better than Grail. Good review as always Si!

[@fabianstephan3368]

I generally agree, but sweetspot for me would be 45 clearance. With larger clearance road tyres look not so nice :D

[@dortadamas]

Punto para la Grail@@fabianstephan3368

[@MrTylerSteven]

Just bought a canyon grail CF SLX and I love it. I’m from NL so no mountains here. Hence did a 40km single track and 100km road trip on it. I love it. What is not in the video hence for me was one of the key points to buy is the optional fender set. I bought the bike for rainy day’s, mud and leaves on the road training bike. The 100km was together with a friend who I am used to ride together with, I was even not much slower as with my canyon aeroad

[@gcn]

That's a great point! Extra mudguards is always welcome 🙌 We love this bike though 😍 - What adventures have you got lined up? 🗺️

[@MrTylerSteven]

@@gcn cool, a genuine GCN reply! Still planning my 2024, hence highlights will be a 400km 3-day gravel ride and 1 week Mallorca :-)

[@pascalhibon7928]

I bought a gravel bike just after lockdown. My initial thought was to buy a more adventurous bike (Ridley Kanzo Adventure). However, the very long lead times (1,5 years!) has pushed me to buy the bike I now own: a Ridley Kanzo Fast. This is a performance gravel bike. In the end I don't regret this; the Kanzo is a nervious bike just like my mountain bike is. On the more technical tracks I prefer a mountain bike though.

[@markie10301011]

Since the Grail GRX 2X already have a front derailleur, if i change to the road bike 52/36 crank, do I need to replace the front and rear derailleur with a road bike component?

[@traktorz16]

Grail would suit me best I feel ! I'd perhaps look to getting a larger chainring to allowa higher top end speed on tarmac as this would be the most likely mix of riding I'll be doing. Many thanks for a really informative post tho 👍🏼

[@daveyboy79]

At <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="170">2:50</a> you've got your new still image to be blurred out at the start of the "cycling shorts" segment on the GCN Show.

[@Mickwhyer]

I recall reading more than a few pros were racing on MTB Tires at Big Sugar

[@markruscoe6228]

I live in Big Sugar-land, and while the gravel is the gnarliest/sharpest I've experienced in the U.S., solid 42mms are enough. Have been running 42mm Pathfinder Pros for last couple of years and they've been pretty bomb-proof.

[@paulmcilvenny]

Great review Si. Funnily enough those two I am looking at, along with others like Mason and Dolan. Just such choice. 🤣. 👍👍

[@sci-fyguy7767]

Bringin’ back the JORTS! 🔥

[@misopasko2614]

I just bought the Grizl CF SL 8 Trail with suspension during BF sale, that put me off 600 Euros, great deal. Hopefully I'll like the bike, this will be my first very own bike

[@ErwinPfuhler]

My Grail AL does a pretty good job on the mixed terrain I use it (tarmac and forrest roads).

[@robertrunkle2315]

Love the Jorts!

[@cruachan1191]

Logically I'd probably say adventure and choose the Grizl, but I love the modularity of the Grail. Little touches like the fork sleeves, the mudguards, the integrated storage and the handlebar mounts for either the aero bars or a head unit mean it's pretty close (IMO) to the ultimate all-rounder.

[@cjohnson3836]

I would expect a future grizl update to carry a lot of that stuff

[@squngy0]

My thoughts exactly!

[@markmulcahy2668]

Loving the fact the jean shorts accentuate the lack of Si’s quad development! Presume they were Hank or Manon’s! 😂

[@veganpotterthevegan]

I wish my Grizl had the downtube storage. The storage is the only thing on the Grail that I'd want in my Grizl

[@sootymilly15]

Had my Grizl 7 suspension for a year now, absolutely love it.😁

[@balar2411]

I'm looking to buy a grizl 7 suspension 1by - how are you liking it? And, how big of a difference is it if I get the non suspension version? Just the grizl 7 1by

[@MortenProm]

Got a 2021 Grizl CF SLX8 with XPLR fork and seatpost that has been serving me so well, that a Grizl CF SL7 was ordered last month and is now doing it's duty as a commuter :)

[@jacobzaranik1099]

I'm looking at getting new canyon grizl 6 1by, aluminium it has SRAM Apex Wide & Cassette SRAM XPLR 11-44 12s what's your opinion on this bike?

[@GodfreyGuitar]

I’ll never unsee those jean shorts.

[@holminone]

Grail for me. General observation- these are all essentially early 90s fully rigid mountain bikes relaunched as gravel bike (w 29”). If I want more beef, I can easily take my short travel full suspension 29er that locks out.

[@neil78]

In the next iteration of the Grizl they should add the frame storage and front bag mount. Then with it’s larger tire clearance and ability to run a 2x would be the perfect all arounder.

[@fabianstephan3368]

I guess therefor they will not do it to prevent customers from stopping to buy further Bikes :D I own a grizl CF sl at the Moment an wish for these exact modifications! Poppy colours would also be cool. I like mine in grey but blue is my fav colour so please bring the deep polar of the ultimate to the grizl :D

[@Vixen1525]

​@@fabianstephan3368I mean you can get it paint by a professional. :)

[@stevekelly6544]

I love the new Grail, I like to do a lot of mixed rides so I’d probably go for that, if I had to pick one….

[@DCCSound]

Stack to reach ratio may be the same between these two bikes, though the Grizl's stack is lower. Sending the front wheel out the front reduces mechanical trail but extends the wheelbase for more stability at speed.

[@SvenfromKiel]

Thx! I am before buying one of these two and also struggling. From the pricepoint and flexibility I prefer the Grizl CF 6 AXS because I also like electronic shifting. The only con is: the Grizl is almost 1kg more than the Grail but thats all...I am also not a lightweight. :-)

[@gueroblanco]

How does the new Grail perform on the road? Would love to use it as my only bike on the road and gravel paths.

[@mortenjespersen7594]

I'm considering the Grail as am allrounder bike including commuting. Is that a good idea?

[@gcn]

Sounds like a great idea! One bike to do it all 🙌

[@stevetordoff]

Being in Vancouver, I hesitate to get a gravel bike because even the light trails seem too much for bikes like the Grizl. That said, it is always on the list because I enjoy the road to the trails, not much one for taking the truck to my favourite mountain sort of mountain biker. As I'm actively considering different bikes, I feel I would have pulled the trigger by now if I found that perfect companion.

[@pphaneuf]

What bottle cages are those? Nice looking side loaders!

[@dewittlunsford2527]

My current gravel bike is a Salsa Cutthroat, so I would definitely be going with the Grizl.

[@TheSpaceBrosShow]

A more versatile gravel bike with larger tire clearance just makes way more sense. Sure it looks a little silly with a second set of skinny road wheels, but the racing bike like the grail is literally a road bike with slightly larger tire clearance. The Grail has strong Cyclocross 2012 energy

[@squngy0]

On the other hand, whats so bad about a road bike with slightly larger tire clearance?

[@TheSpaceBrosShow]

@@squngy0 nothing in particular. Just a lot of very similar bikes

[@mrfurmston]

Wondering if the Grail could take 650b wheels. I have a Topstone and swapped the wheels for Hunt 650b with 47mm tyres - performs really well as it's a mixture of grael and woodlands I cycle through.

[@gasolinewine801]

Oh My God, the cut-off shorts just killed me!!

[@philipplorenz9485]

Grizl with 40mm tires and a aftermarket aerobar for fast gravelrides with the option to swap out tires and bar when I want to munch miles on a bikepacking trip. The all it can do bike :-) except road rides due to the 1by gravel specific gearing

[@Trancefreakeh]

Grizzle. With the shocks, even if that means foregoing the mounting points. And if it was available, it would have been mine last year. The comfort, the wider tire clearance, sturdyness and options to like the bike adventuring dream... Alas, I had to settle for the Cube NuRoad Race FE, which is more commuter oriented ( which is nice! ) but also less comfortable and feels like it has a shorter stack ( autchy back ). It's my first 'propper' bike and I wish I researched geometry more.

[@martinhotan8946]

good show - very 80s in that custom cut denim ... almost Paul Smith style

[@hoodyps]

is grail frame just an ultimate/endurace frame with more bottle mounts?

[@octaviandobre]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="167">2:47</a> Dat smile!

[@MarkLRandall]

I would pick the Grail, as it checks all the boxes for something stable, that can serve dual purpose as a road bike. I like the frame storage, integrated cables, and the optional aerobars for comfort. For me, 42mm tire clearance is enough.

[@Jasongristick]

The Grail is max 42 in the rear only with the canyon mud guards. You can fit in a slightly bigger tire. Per Canyon website the Grail can handle a 46 up front

[@James-J-J-J]

Grizl seems most apt for going off out for an adventure in the woods. Kinda want one now.

[@ilovepie002]

I lost it with the jean shorts 😂

[@gcn]

Jean shorts are back! 😎

[@staypufft80]

no@@gcn

[@WayneOgborne]

Grizl for me. Sounds like a great all rounder with the comfort I’m looking for.

[@skipfantry5059]

I do realize there is little difference between the two Canyons you used here, but it would be nice in discussion of gravel bikes that some time is devoted to head tube angle. I run a Diverge Evo that is more slack than both of these, and off-road this is hugely important to my experience. I wouldn't mind if mine were actually a bit MORE slack, but prefer the degree or two I have over the Canyons - I did try them both and strongly prefer the former.

[@cjohnson3836]

True, my Stormchaser has a 70 deg HTA. I don't see myself ever going steeper on a gravel bike. I think this is the sweep spot, to be honest.

[@colinwilliams9290]

Well done Ollie, super chuffed for you 💪🏻 always grafting for the channel

[@cups5135]

I was already leaning Grizl….now I’m all in.

[@heyjules8]

Adventure - although I'd love to see the integrated cockpit of the new Grail on it...

[@gcn]

🤤

[@kczcb4697]

Never thought id see Jorts in a gcn video.

[@packfan1946]

As a road bike rider for many years, it's easy to pick the performance of the Grail!!!

[@mechadrake]

Probably grizl, as my use case is not of speed but excersise and being able to carry stuff. This is how I got Cube Nuroad FE version, which looks more like touring bike than gravel. It also looks like tgat wit the rear bags on it :) also fits weeks shopping, tried that several times :D Almost got al grizl, but they did not have the one I wanted and then price got increased which caused overbudget :)

[@andrewdeanenglish901]

Is there much difference between a gravel bike and/ or an adventure bike compared to a hybrid bike? Surely with the right components a hybrid bike would basically be a gravel bike with flat bars. Maybe more control with flat bars may balance out a more low slung position on a gravel bike. Just a thought.

[@alastairbanton959]

Grail for Sue. Do you think 1X 12sp would work on the road as a winter road / gravel bike?

[@elefantrising]

I put some Carbon wheels on my grizl made it a one by set up and Im still slow but hell of a lot of fun.

[@gcn]

Speed doesn't always mean fun! 🙌 Great to hear you are loving the Grizl

[@FastMoSF]

What SPD shoes are you wearing?

[@ancientfifer]

Oh Lord, when are the GCN branded denim cutoff gravel shorts hitting the shelves!! Must have!

[@taskmaxter]

I'm seriously considering the Grizl:ON CF9, but I'm concerned I might be in a too aggressive position in the cockpit. I'm coming from an older Specialized Tarmac and when comparing the geometry between the two, it seems like the Large CF9 would stretch me out even further (and I'm 6'2"). Anyone else deal with changing things up on the bike after buying it to get a more upright position? (like stem, etc)

[@papaduck1000]

Jean shorts - very nice

[@j03yl33]

Can y'all make a GCN x Jean Shorts holiday calendar plz 🙏

[@mpkback]

Tough choice. For me, really, the only difference between the two is the tyre clearance. If anything the Grail is more practical than the Grizl: Yes, the Grizl comes out of the factory with more mount points, but the Grail has fittable genuine Canyon mounts available, and it also has the snazzy frame bag and in frame storage. When you take that into account, plus the fact you can more easily fit higher road gearing, the Grail seems the more all-round one bike choice. Maybe next year the Grizl will get updated with the in-frame storage and snazzy bag.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

When my road bike has been down, I've ridden my Grizl on the road and it's great. The only thing I wouldn't wanna do on it is a criterium but I wouldn't do that on a Grail either.

[@Fedelia86]

Grizl Trail for me, please :)

[@Natugonesolo5010]

My gravel bike is a Canyon. But it’s not a grail or a grizl. It’s an inflite!!! It’s a Cyclocross bike, but it’s perfect for my Kindle of gravel. It’s fast, funny on twisty trails around the woods, in the mud and also on some xc technical rocky descent. It’s harder to dominate compared ti a gravel; rigid and nervous. But when you learn to ride it, she gives you more than a gravel. That’s my point of view.

[@Natugonesolo5010]

Sorry for my english, I’m Italian😂

[@theyorkshirewheeler]

Giant Revolt Advanced 0 here. Decent gravel machine and very bike packing capable

[@thebrunoserge]

I just ordered a Grail (SRAM 1x) but I’m now very apprehensive because I didn’t know about the higher stiffness and less tire clearance. Canyon seems to have a decent return policy so I’ll try it out and if something bothers me about it… I may return it. I didn’t see a grizl with Zipp wheels and 1x SRAM so the grail caught my eye just for the fast wheels and groupset 😅 why is it so hard to decide on a bike

[@luxinterna3370]

So should i buy a gravel or a cyclo cross bike? Whats the difference?