Slide vs cabinet table saw

[@affordableelegance1196]

Love the channel been using a slider for 30+ years. First shop I worked in had 2 Altendorf machines that the owner purchased in Europe. When I opened my own business in 2001 first big equipment purchase I made cuz my old boss said the money you spend now will be rewarded by the time you save later. Time is money and you can always make more money but you can't make more time Always invest in the best equipment so you can spend more time and money on the one's you love. ✌️keep up the good work.

[@finnnilssen8647]

Holy crap, I dont think I've ever gotten so much information in that short time. It's a very impressive saw and it looks awesome, would totally want one if I had the space and finances.

[@michaelvienneau8544]

finances is a valid point i can just imagine what it costs

[@bluecruiser3790]

I have no use and no space for a saw this awesome, yet I still thought about just getting one anyway. I think I have tool dude disease.

[@elpaisa1]

It has no cure, it's a terminal disease.

[@grantbaker6709]

I'm glad it's not just me 😂. I don't even work with wood. I'm a welder 😅🤦🏻

[@RecklessOne11]

Toolitis will spread if not properly treated. Talk to you local hardware store for treatments.

[@saxus]

If you think that you don't have space for it, just think about it: if you have to cut a full sheet of plywood or a 10 ft board, you need to have space for be able to move the material around the saw. You just don't have support to do the cut: you just hang the material in the air.

[@darkfog360]

Yes but ull have a good saw

[@CrazyManwich]

That sliding table saw is a sign of success. As an aspiring woodworker that is a goal of mine, but I am happy with my Delta 36-725T2. It is working out well and I got it brand new for under $400.00

[@wolfgar_m9389]

I‘m from Germany and did a traditional cabinet makers apprenticeship. I always thought „full length“ sliding saws are standard in every professional cabinet making workshop, since every shop here is using them. It was baffling for me to find out, that most US American woodworkers, even the professionals keep using the old style table saws (at least those, uploading on KZbin). Like you said it yourself, these sliding table saws are much more versatile and simply better in every aspect. Sure, they are bigger and more expensive. But if you buy a saw for earning yourself a living, those are no brainers😄 And congratulations for your upgrade. :)

[@СергейФ-я4ч]

Пила должна быть точна. На ней багеты пилить.

[@СергейФ-я4ч]

И это не про протяжные.

[@СергейФ-я4ч]

Щас таких пил не выпускают. Из глины и веток.

[@СергейФ-я4ч]

ДВ 117.

[@shaunpage4498]

The last two cabinet shops I’ve visited in the US had both types of saw. These are becoming very popular.

[@brettmorton7365]

I do a little bit of woodworking just for home, and I recently got a table saw (much smaller, but with several cool features for its size) and what a difference it has made to how easily I can do certain tasks. It really is good to have the right gear. I love the channel, mate. Very inspiring and educational. Your craftsmanship is awesome to watch...

[@RedcarWW]

This is an exceptional slide saw. Definitely something that a shop with production at your level with a footprint that matches your size could easily use. I can tell that from your comments you realize this. Comparing your old space/old table saw slide to this one. It's something for someone like myself to strive for, and I am thrilled to see a quality piece like this setup, explained and see in use. For me, a slide table saw would be a major space hog that I don't think I could afford. Currently I have an oversize one car garage shop. I could take down the wall leaving support beams for the second floor to expand to almost a full two bay size shop. That is part of my growth plan if the business goes well.

[@kaleoscreations]

Jason, how has the business fared? I’m looking for a new place for my shop, and definitely need at least a 2-car garage

[@RedcarWW]

@@kaleoscreations I've been taking my time getting the shop sorted out. There are a couple of items I need finish up, but then will be starting to work on production.

[@10MarcoBLZA]

in italia vendono queste seghe circolari con carello di dimensione ridotte CMT MINIMAX

[@jamikes]

Absolutely awesome vid! Loved all the wisdom and tips in the commentary while demonstrating how the tool works/is used. Very simple to understand and very useful info.

[@kevinnoble7532]

Jealous of all the amazing tools and gadgets you work with on a daily basis. Your work is amazing also. Hope to get to a similar point someday!

[@mattschreiber4251]

Nice video. Great information. I certainly didn’t get sliders until I finally used one. Now I don’t get cabinet saws. If I had to go back to a cabinet saw, I’d retire.

[@arthybrids]

Your the only one on KZbin i have seen using a slide saw. Professionally I only worked on slide saws and these things are great. If i had the space i would get one. Right now i just have a contactor saw which is a really frustrating if you're used to one of these.

[@bryanwanek46]

Great video. I have struggled with trying to get nice straight cuts on long crooked boards for years. Your video helped sell me on buying a slider. Found a very nice used Altendorf locally. As soon as I get a bigger 3 phase converter I will be in businesses! Awesome video!

[@davidmuresan1735]

See my Parallel Guided Power Saw. It can cut what you want. I may cut 1mmx18' slice from a 2x4x18'.

[@MoGhotbi]

I'm still in my garage so I've got a short stroke slider, but I have been very happy with it and glad I made the decision to go with the slider instead of the cabinet saw. Excellent video. Thanks.

[@TheAyotteMan]

Which saw did you go with? I’m researching for a small sized slider.

[@MoGhotbi]

@@TheAyotteMan I got the Hammer K3 Winner with the 79 inch stroke. I've been very happy with it.

[@troyqueen9503]

Love my hammer k3+Festool track saw,nothing is impossible.

[@JN2023]

Considering an alpha cabinet saw with an added short stroke slider, however perhaps a long stroke would make the plunge cutter obsolete for sheet mtrl.

[@kelvindawe5123]

I've seen this film 4 times now and that is easily the best slide saw bench I've ever seen so smooth👍

[@charlesking415]

Worked in a custom shop that had a Martin T70 and 2 Powerematic 12 inch table saws. The Martin was a German saw and I believe it was 4500lbs...built like a tank..it was freaky accurate...smooth as silk...the sliding table could be operated with one finger... they run about $75,000 new

[@neilhanley3468]

Oohhhh I remember the cabinet company I worked for in the 90s getting a saw very similar to this! Man, definitely an increase in production for a one or two person shop! It made work easier for sure! Work smarter not harder. If you have the coin, that is...

[@brentboojhawan5645]

this guy is better than most salesman the dude could talk sounds like those auction guys "I have a big saw what size do u have saying it once saying it twice ok I win mines is bigger" overall great tool nice demo

[@s.l.dixononline]

Got to work with once of these briefly. They are amazing.

[@kenc2257]

That's a very nice saw/sliding table setup. You short demo was very informative.

Nice to see a Brazilian brand name going outside of Brazil.

[@barryinn1778]

I have a saw like this one but a different brand, love it. And these saws take up the same foot print as a standard table saw. If you rip a sheet of plywood 8ft before blade and 8ft beyond blade it takes no more room.

[@tatakatut]

Working with large sheets a slide saw is a must have! Years ago I worked on an old Altendorf 45. Every time a precise cut. Only downside for me is the size of that thing! But if you have the space and need for such a big gun, go get one!

[@pauljastrzebiec-milewski4410]

Don't forget to trade your wife and kids for financing 😅😢😂

[@chrissetter]

The worst thing about this saw is that it spoils you. I used a sliding saw everyday in a cabinet shop for years. But, when I had to use a Dewalt job site saw, it felt like I had never used a table saw in my life. The difference in difficulty of ripping a plywood sheet between the two saws is absolutely insane.

[@RecklessOne11]

I saw the NOVA that you are using so I'm like "Oh, I wonder what one of those costs!" I shouldn't have googled it! You are the rockstar of woodworking. You're playing Les Paul and I'm slinging Epiphone.

[@RenatoGarcia1000]

It's kinda funny to see that we usually import some gear from USA to Brazil and now I see a guy using a Brazilian machine on USA. Maksiwa products are really good btw...

[@Freshcheez]

Saw a different video of you using this absolute unit on Facebook. I’ve been in remodeling for about 20 years. All my stuff is mobile which has limitations. I’d take that saw to Vegas after an hour of knowing her to get married. Man that’s sweet

[@ZmzgZis]

Hammer is a great budget brand from the Felder group. Have one myself and love it.

[@TheRayCaruso]

I never understood the value of slide saw. I want to build a new shop just to have one. So useful

[@WhangaFish]

Ive never used the type of saws I see in american videos (other than jobsite saws), these sliding/panel saws are all we use. Although we also cut thousands of sheet goods so its a no brainer. One of the most handy functions you didnt show was how you can pivot the fence to make angled or compound cuts. And best of all the fence returns to square again no worries (most saws anyway) because of the stops. Best upgrade for me, make a clip board holder to hold your plans on the front side of the fence so they're always right there!

[@mounirturki7106]

You are a professional worker at work and you always amaze us with really beautiful things. You are skilled in your work. I love working professionally and mastering it ✌️😎👍

[@stevendavis6759]

What an awesome saw.!! All your videos are fantastic

[@robertwiebe6145]

Retired this what the shops all had and its just awesome.

[@A_Ck9]

I like your videos because you are using high quality machines and tools thumb up .

[@versailledoctrina7646]

How do you make splined miter joints on a sliding table saw? For example the material is 70x25cm. The spline needs to be on the 25cm side in the middle not seen on the outside, but it seems it would move on the fence if pushed on the blade due to small surface contact on the fence, and there aren't any guides on the fence side.

[@ashgiles4401]

Completely agree. I have a 8 foot sliding minimax saw. The only advantage I see with a sled is cutting small items with zero clearance. However you could make a sled with the slider the same.

[@bomberokarpentero9381]

I'm so jealous. Hehehhe! How nice to have it. Much more convenient than traditional table saw.

[@tcrotunda9856]

One of the comments mentions these are more for industrial use… I finally have the ability to purchase my own table saw. I was looking at Sawstop, but I really like the idea of owning one of these. Do they make smaller and more affordable ones? Everything I’ve seen is 10k and 100sqft. I really think these companies are missing a huge market by not making smaller versions for home users.

[@ThinkHarderPlz]

You have all the best toys.

[@laguintasuarez6601]

You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice kzbin.infoUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.

[@ravenheart1439]

Would love to have your old saw lol...this one is sooooo nice and big....

[@MurraydeLues]

I went from a standard saw to a slider. Bit intimidating to start with but oh so good once you get the hang of it.

[@jimfeaster4837]

Nice saw wish I had up grade on electrical😢

[@JSC60]

Great video! I love my slider.

[@dustylumberco]

Thanks!

[@mraarone]

Thanks for the explanation. I’ve been wondering about it since it started popping up in your shorts. That didn’t sound right. You know what I mean. 😂

[@rwbuchwald]

That thing is awesome!! It’s a dream machine

[@hubstar6960]

After almost 20 years working as cabinet maker on both continents (Europe and North America) there are couple things I noticed. First, w are far behind Europe when it comes to machinery, equipment and hardware w use here. It's not that it is not available here, but not popular as in Europe. Same with the cabinet hardware. Things had started to change when we are started making frameless cabinets like they do in Europe. With that said, it takes more skills to be cabinet maker in America than Europe. Here in America we can make beautifully wood kitchen, millwork, crafts on regular table saw, jig saw and belt sander from home Depot. It's not an option in Europe. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of great craftsmen in Europe, it's about the way how people work. Here in America, barely any shop use track saw which is a game changer when it comes to work on site. But it's just a matter of time.

[@batmansdad3195]

First time I was introduced to a slide saw was Richard at finish carpentry tv bought one for his garage.

[@juanj.smithrobertob.sarcos1347]

You're ONE OF THE ACTOR of NOW YOU SEE ME, Right? The one with hypnotizing scheme😁✌

[@jj-hb8cy]

Burning through the info. Well done!

[@quietwarf1019]

Nice 👍. We have a straight line ripsaw thats a beast easily cuts 5”thick oak but unfortunately cannot bevel. Great for glue joints on bigger timber though.

[@obedcalderon141]

Two questions. 1. How many boxes or crates does it ship in? 2. How long does it take to assemble?

[@nicklaskallman280]

When we got a new altendorf shipped to our workshop it came on one big shipping pallet. Pretty much ready to use. I think we got maybe twp big separate boxes for the big cross cut fence and the table that attaches to the sliding table. As for assembly i have no idea, the reseller took care of it.

[@KWCabs]

Thinking about one and recently learned about maksiwa... any thoughts on comparing to bigger name brands like felder/hammer minimax etc? Looking to get something super quality but at a little less $ since they're so much especially for 1 man shops...hammer in the lead so far for me but curious about these... thanks

[@KWCabs]

@@tundrawhisperer4821 do you have any experience with these? Or are you just saying felder is great? I don't think anyone would argue that it's a top level choice but I'm actually interested in those who have had their hands on both (or other comparable brands) to make honest comparisons thanks

[@kristapshelvigs6121]

in europe robland saws ar grate kick for buck! i ownwed scm and no own hammer k4 perform it is central objek in workshop! if unlimited finaces i go for altendorf!

[@kristapshelvigs6121]

hammer is grate for 1 man shops! scm and felder, martin, altendorfs ar like tanks for dumbasses sawing in 3 shifts:D

[@steveferguson1232]

Dusty I have a question for you. I’m a disabled retired furniture and cabinet maker and work out of a small shed shop. I’m in need of new contractor saw. My question to you is I know how good the maksiwa saws are and they have a contractor saw with a slide, would this be a good viable saw or buy another and build a slider with linear rails? I look forward to your answer. I need to come visit you and learn some of your joinery work, if you could put with a 65 year old Alabama boy

[@dustylumberco]

I’m not sure if Maksiwa has a contractor saw sorry. My first slider was a smaller 5’ slider that was made by SCM and was an awesome saw for smaller shops. The saw is the SCM mini max sc2c if you want to check it out and see if that would work for you 👍

[@magdihassan3978]

Thanks for your excellent videos Will appreciate if u let me the model number and the price of this sliding table saw as well as ur mitre saw which cut horizontally and vertically Thanks

[@cristianpop3830]

Este un circular profesional industrial de 30 de ani lucrez cu asemenea utilaje toate marca Casolin 👍 salut from România 🤟

[@johnfrederickson3082]

Outstanding video!

[@dustylumberco]

Thank you!!

[@dannygreen6145]

That is a very nice set up!

[@50lux]

Hi, Was wondering where you got the rip blade you have on the Maksiwa? I bought one as well and don’t seem to be able to find a good rip blade. It came with a 96 tooth blade from the factory.

[@andreygub5216]

Лучшая мастерская мира и лучший мастер.

[@MignuxTools]

I know you have a new table saw Nova SCM, but is there any reason for the change. SCM is better? or only is a new sponsor. I wish to buy a minimax from SCM and I'd like your opinion. Thanks

[@SintoJoseph]

What was the cost of this table saw build?

[@jagdishprasadkhaitan4815]

Lovely superb Nice saw

[@kelvindawe5123]

O God these videos are like carpenter porn the saw the work shop just looking around the back ground I can't cope mate I think the missus has to go and upgrade my work shop. 👍

[@SeattlePaulie]

I've wanted a slide saw ever since I first saw one on Pedulla Studio's channel. But I too have a smallish space and I can't justify the price of the 10 footer. But that 6 foot saw might just do. Does anyone know if you can upgrade the 6' to a 10'? If I get more space, well...

[@garyt3769]

I just purchased this saw last week so really looking forward to using it. However, until I started looking for saw blades, I didn't realize it has a 30mm arbor and not a 1" arbor like most 12" blades that are readily available. I've done some web searching, but wondered if you had a recommendation on where to buy saw blades for this saw? It came with at 96 tooth blade but I'm looking to pick up a good ripping blade.

[@thepewplace1370]

Holler at CMT, I think I've seen them have some metric sizes

[@olafbigandglad]

If it was up to me, I would go with a Forrest blade. Great blades, and they can bore an arbour to any size you want.

[@jerishigan6567]

I’ll probably convince myself I need this to make tiny jewelry boxes.

[@CraigularjJoeWoodworks]

Dustin, may I ask what brand of slide saw you had in your garage as mentioned in this video? I am a garage guy and am trying to invest wisely

[@troyqueen9503]

Look into hammer k3 winner, got one this spring,very impressive, makes jobs so much easier.👍📐🇨🇦

[@CraigularjJoeWoodworks]

@@troyqueen9503 I almost bought that saw haha

[@ride-n-reel]

Curious to know how the Maksiwa is holding up now two years later? Any major problems? How has their support been?

[@Xydin214]

Hey Dusty, was hoping to get your feedback with your hands on experience with Maksiwa. Would you still recommend them as a brand of table saw?

[@dustylumberco]

Ya they make a good saw for a good price. The main reason I ungraded to SCM was because they have saws that can take bigger blades and have bigger motors and the options to add more features but the Maksiwa was still a good saw 👍

[@Xydin214]

@@dustylumberco thats great to hear, thanks for the input, it’s very much appreciated!

[@bradymiguel]

There’s seriously less than $500 between the comparable SawStop model with some of these features. That includes shipping, which is $650 with SawStop and *FREE* with the Maksiwa. 🤯

[@tomhostetter8516]

I've seen other videos of yours and I know you use festools to cut dados. Just wondering if this can accommodate a dado stack as well? I don't have the space for one of that caliber but a 4 footer or 6 footer would be perfect in my shop. Thanks for the video

[@dustylumberco]

Unfortunately this one cannot take a dado but there are some brands that can

[@jorgeluisrodriguezgomez1837]

Greetings from Havana. CUBA

[@henriquepastl4921]

That saw is my dream, this is a brazilian brand.

[@geraldlalonde5992]

What did you think about the quality of the machine when assembling?

[@Witty..UserName]

maybe turn the phone 90° when filming? great rundown though, thanks.

[@chrisnash2154]

Sweet! I just need 10s of thousands of dollars and business plan to justify buying it and I’m in!🤣

[@osocarpinterocarpinteria]

Wow, that’s amazing

[@hanslocher6421]

Can I please get your overall opinion on this brand? How does this saw do with 8/4 hardwoods? I have the opportunity to buy this saw for a good deal but I have never worked with this brand and I can't seem to find any reviews on this product (also service & parts)

[@LimitedGunnerGM]

I like that you are never behind the blade (in the path of kickback).

[@gazkoci3273]

SUPER OPSIONE E KOMPLETUAR ❤ ❤ ❤

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

Is your shop in Canada?

[@jessefurqueron5555]

Looked long and hard at sliders when shopping a few years back. Felder has a showroom/warehouse local here. Started talking options etc (wanted a different arm and infeed/outfeed setup to fit needs and space) on one of their smaller saws and they started talking “months” for delivery..like >= 6 months. Got to thinking of lead times for replacement parts. Mind you this was well before Covid. Also, the nickel and diming started adding up. Be sure and get a delivery and setup quote, these machines ain’t light. Check out service prices too. Cha Ching cha Ching. So went old school. PM2000b w heavy duty metal framed 52” extension table. Nixed installing the vise, frankenstiened a Sawstop 4” overarm (dust collection) in place of the vice. Old Delta had a overarm and it was awesome, split guard was very well designed, just no built in dust collection. Add Veritas hold down wheels on fence (magnetic quick release) and a Jessem miter gauge. Then for large panel cutting & breakdown, went w a Festool TS75 and about 25’ or so of track (think long mahogany countertops in library). Was around 8k-9k(?) for all that w/o tax at the time, including a couple of blades for TS75 and other Festool & TSO accessories, no new 10” blades as already had Forrest blades from the old Delta. Not a Woodpeckers “collector”, no red wall in the shop (we’re not YTubers 😉), but do have a few of their stainless tools and a al saddle square. The first tool of theirs purchased was the tsaw setup gauge, really do like it a lot, nice design, couldn’t have made one for anywhere near what was paid for the WP. It’s a one trick pony, but its very accurate for wood processing machines (half of our shop is metal working - VMC & metal lathe, so used to thous). The combination “US popular style” table saw + Euro track saw works great in a packed smallish (20x40ish) shop. Very flexible for tackling different projects. Do miss the Unifence terribly 😥 Today, would a slider still be considered? Possibly, but it would definitely be a different brand than was looked at (Felder sales experience was a turn off). Noticed watching Pedulla w his slider, he seems to have to lean way over when ripping narrower boards, don’t think my back would like that for long. So would be inclined to have both types in the shop. Remember, a lot of these sliders are 3phase…hey, 12”/14” blades are part of the “draw” (bad dad pun) for this type of saw…so calculate in converters if you (like I) don’t have 3 phase avail. Coupla shows coming up here in Texas, might have to look at which slider vendors (if any) are going be at em. As always, YMMV. Just sharing. Nothing more. Nothing less. Have a good ‘un.

[@kishowood1596]

How much is the chainsaw price in your country? Where are you from my friend?

[@jimsynyard]

Can I ask why you went to SCM from this saw?

[@henokfentaw5634]

i am henok from ethiopia also afernithur man i have somemi portebul wood machins but I ned this sliding machin place i needed your contribution because I have information you separated for athers

[@intell0]

hey dusty. great video. wondering about one thing about the slide table saw. im in a pinch i only have about 13 feet (4 meters) in width in my workshop and around 20 feet (6+ meters) in lenght. i wonder if i should get the bigger rip capacity or not the fence on the sliding table will have to be smaller if i get the bigger rip capacity... hmm thank you

[@ryananthony4840]

I'm 13' wide and 40' long..... Wonder what I should utilize

[@aaronoconnor606]

It's kind of funny how people say you need more space for a saw like this but in reality you need this much space for table saw for the material you need that much space around the saw. For braking down sheet goods or lumber anyway so if you are building furniture or cabinets. This type of saw is way more useful. Expensive but it would pay for itself in 6 months for a cabinet or furniture building shop

[@antonisrizopoulos]

WOW DUDE Awesome! this is a monster! \m/

[@districtwork]

У нас это форматно-раскроечный станок. Такие в каждой шараге есть, и их не жалеют: через 5 лет станок превращается в металлолом

[@ketankhandekar3198]

Awesome machine 🙌👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Raul28153]

why the maksiwa as opposed to a Format or Felder or Martin?

[@black_dragon-carpentry]

To every one saying they don't have room.... You do. There are so many ways to incorporate them into a material processing station

[@smileyhomeimprovementsjohn6165]

How much does it cost?

[@toughgamer2960]

i was watching all the sawstop vids and then realized - if you have the space in your workshop, this is virtually 100 times safer than a traditional table saw

[@mikeblackford994]

What did the puppy cost?

[@jasonwest2064]

Now I need a slidesaw lol.

[@M30263]

Awesome tool for anyone in the cabinet business. Otherwise I’d have to pass and go with a regular pro model with slide options etc. That saw is Beast Mode! Love it. But 10-15k. Not in my vocabulary let alone budget 😂

[@bradymiguel]

You must not see this guys content.

[@M30263]

@@bradymiguel I have. Subscribed. I am simply stating i have to pass. 🤷‍♂️

[@jaspreet-p5q]

How much cost of the machine in the india. Punjab on work

[@rogerwhiting9310]

Wonder what that system costs?

[@garybath6276]

That's so cool. I'll never have the $'s or the space but I can dream.