Slide vs cabinet table saw

[@bluecruiser3790]

I have no use and no space for a saw this awesome, yet I still thought about just getting one anyway. I think I have tool dude disease.

[@elpaisa1]

It has no cure, it's a terminal disease.

[@grantbaker6709]

I'm glad it's not just me 😂. I don't even work with wood. I'm a welder 😅🤦🏻

[@RecklessOne11]

Toolitis will spread if not properly treated. Talk to you local hardware store for treatments.

[@saxus]

If you think that you don't have space for it, just think about it: if you have to cut a full sheet of plywood or a 10 ft board, you need to have space for be able to move the material around the saw. You just don't have support to do the cut: you just hang the material in the air.

[@darkfog360]

Yes but ull have a good saw

[@affordableelegance1196]

Love the channel been using a slider for 30+ years. First shop I worked in had 2 Altendorf machines that the owner purchased in Europe. When I opened my own business in 2001 first big equipment purchase I made cuz my old boss said the money you spend now will be rewarded by the time you save later. Time is money and you can always make more money but you can't make more time Always invest in the best equipment so you can spend more time and money on the one's you love. ✌️keep up the good work.

[@finnnilssen8647]

Holy crap, I dont think I've ever gotten so much information in that short time. It's a very impressive saw and it looks awesome, would totally want one if I had the space and finances.

[@michaelvienneau8544]

finances is a valid point i can just imagine what it costs

[@wolfgar_m9389]

I‘m from Germany and did a traditional cabinet makers apprenticeship. I always thought „full length“ sliding saws are standard in every professional cabinet making workshop, since every shop here is using them. It was baffling for me to find out, that most US American woodworkers, even the professionals keep using the old style table saws (at least those, uploading on KZbin). Like you said it yourself, these sliding table saws are much more versatile and simply better in every aspect. Sure, they are bigger and more expensive. But if you buy a saw for earning yourself a living, those are no brainers😄 And congratulations for your upgrade. :)

[@user-ns6ne8nl2s]

Пила должна быть точна. На ней багеты пилить.

[@user-ns6ne8nl2s]

И это не про протяжные.

[@user-ns6ne8nl2s]

Щас таких пил не выпускают. Из глины и веток.

[@user-ns6ne8nl2s]

ДВ 117.

[@shaunpage4498]

The last two cabinet shops I’ve visited in the US had both types of saw. These are becoming very popular.

[@Funknwanker]

That sliding table saw is a sign of success. As an aspiring woodworker that is a goal of mine, but I am happy with my Delta 36-725T2. It is working out well and I got it brand new for under $400.00

[@laguintasuarez6601]

You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice kzbin.infoUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.

[@brettmorton7365]

I do a little bit of woodworking just for home, and I recently got a table saw (much smaller, but with several cool features for its size) and what a difference it has made to how easily I can do certain tasks. It really is good to have the right gear. I love the channel, mate. Very inspiring and educational. Your craftsmanship is awesome to watch...

[@jamikes]

Absolutely awesome vid! Loved all the wisdom and tips in the commentary while demonstrating how the tool works/is used. Very simple to understand and very useful info.

[@mattschreiber4251]

Nice video. Great information. I certainly didn’t get sliders until I finally used one. Now I don’t get cabinet saws. If I had to go back to a cabinet saw, I’d retire.

[@RedcarWW]

This is an exceptional slide saw. Definitely something that a shop with production at your level with a footprint that matches your size could easily use. I can tell that from your comments you realize this. Comparing your old space/old table saw slide to this one. It's something for someone like myself to strive for, and I am thrilled to see a quality piece like this setup, explained and see in use. For me, a slide table saw would be a major space hog that I don't think I could afford. Currently I have an oversize one car garage shop. I could take down the wall leaving support beams for the second floor to expand to almost a full two bay size shop. That is part of my growth plan if the business goes well.

[@kaleoscreations8069]

Jason, how has the business fared? I’m looking for a new place for my shop, and definitely need at least a 2-car garage

[@RedcarWW]

@@kaleoscreations8069 I've been taking my time getting the shop sorted out. There are a couple of items I need finish up, but then will be starting to work on production.

[@10MarcoBLZA]

in italia vendono queste seghe circolari con carello di dimensione ridotte CMT MINIMAX

[@charlesking415]

Worked in a custom shop that had a Martin T70 and 2 Powerematic 12 inch table saws. The Martin was a German saw and I believe it was 4500lbs...built like a tank..it was freaky accurate...smooth as silk...the sliding table could be operated with one finger... they run about $75,000 new

[@arthybrids]

Your the only one on KZbin i have seen using a slide saw. Professionally I only worked on slide saws and these things are great. If i had the space i would get one. Right now i just have a contactor saw which is a really frustrating if you're used to one of these.

[@kevinnoble7532]

Jealous of all the amazing tools and gadgets you work with on a daily basis. Your work is amazing also. Hope to get to a similar point someday!

[@kelvindawe5123]

I've seen this film 4 times now and that is easily the best slide saw bench I've ever seen so smooth👍

[@s.l.dixononline]

Got to work with once of these briefly. They are amazing.

[@RenatoGarcia1000]

It's kinda funny to see that we usually import some gear from USA to Brazil and now I see a guy using a Brazilian machine on USA. Maksiwa products are really good btw...

Nice to see a Brazilian brand name going outside of Brazil.

[@ZmzgZis]

Hammer is a great budget brand from the Felder group. Have one myself and love it.

[@tatakatut]

Working with large sheets a slide saw is a must have! Years ago I worked on an old Altendorf 45. Every time a precise cut. Only downside for me is the size of that thing! But if you have the space and need for such a big gun, go get one!

[@pauljastrzebiec-milewski4410]

Don't forget to trade your wife and kids for financing 😅😢😂

[@bryanwanek46]

Great video. I have struggled with trying to get nice straight cuts on long crooked boards for years. Your video helped sell me on buying a slider. Found a very nice used Altendorf locally. As soon as I get a bigger 3 phase converter I will be in businesses! Awesome video!

[@davidmuresan1735]

See my Parallel Guided Power Saw. It can cut what you want. I may cut 1mmx18' slice from a 2x4x18'.

[@barryinn1778]

I have a saw like this one but a different brand, love it. And these saws take up the same foot print as a standard table saw. If you rip a sheet of plywood 8ft before blade and 8ft beyond blade it takes no more room.

[@MoGhotbi]

I'm still in my garage so I've got a short stroke slider, but I have been very happy with it and glad I made the decision to go with the slider instead of the cabinet saw. Excellent video. Thanks.

[@TheAyotteMan]

Which saw did you go with? I’m researching for a small sized slider.

[@MoGhotbi]

@@TheAyotteMan I got the Hammer K3 Winner with the 79 inch stroke. I've been very happy with it.

[@troyqueen9503]

Love my hammer k3+Festool track saw,nothing is impossible.

[@JN2023]

Considering an alpha cabinet saw with an added short stroke slider, however perhaps a long stroke would make the plunge cutter obsolete for sheet mtrl.

[@kenc2257]

That's a very nice saw/sliding table setup. You short demo was very informative.

[@neilhanley3468]

Oohhhh I remember the cabinet company I worked for in the 90s getting a saw very similar to this! Man, definitely an increase in production for a one or two person shop! It made work easier for sure! Work smarter not harder. If you have the coin, that is...

[@brentboojhawan5645]

this guy is better than most salesman the dude could talk sounds like those auction guys "I have a big saw what size do u have saying it once saying it twice ok I win mines is bigger" overall great tool nice demo

[@TheRayCaruso]

I never understood the value of slide saw. I want to build a new shop just to have one. So useful

[@chrissetter]

The worst thing about this saw is that it spoils you. I used a sliding saw everyday in a cabinet shop for years. But, when I had to use a Dewalt job site saw, it felt like I had never used a table saw in my life. The difference in difficulty of ripping a plywood sheet between the two saws is absolutely insane.

[@Freshcheez]

Saw a different video of you using this absolute unit on Facebook. I’ve been in remodeling for about 20 years. All my stuff is mobile which has limitations. I’d take that saw to Vegas after an hour of knowing her to get married. Man that’s sweet

[@cloggedpitot1]

I had both in our cabinet shop as well as a vertical panel saw. Used the regular table mainly for ripping, and the vertical panel saw for panel processing. Very rarely used the slider. It was a nice one but I found the standard saw more versatile. I would also wish for a much longer sliding table if ever I had one in the future. I think mine only had about 8’ of table and much of the stock we straight lined was 10’ or more. Just my two thoughts. Loved my old 10” Powermatic

[@robertwiebe6145]

Retired this what the shops all had and its just awesome.

[@WhangaFish]

Ive never used the type of saws I see in american videos (other than jobsite saws), these sliding/panel saws are all we use. Although we also cut thousands of sheet goods so its a no brainer. One of the most handy functions you didnt show was how you can pivot the fence to make angled or compound cuts. And best of all the fence returns to square again no worries (most saws anyway) because of the stops. Best upgrade for me, make a clip board holder to hold your plans on the front side of the fence so they're always right there!

[@RecklessOne11]

I saw the NOVA that you are using so I'm like "Oh, I wonder what one of those costs!" I shouldn't have googled it! You are the rockstar of woodworking. You're playing Les Paul and I'm slinging Epiphone.

[@stevendavis6759]

What an awesome saw.!! All your videos are fantastic

[@mraarone]

Thanks for the explanation. I’ve been wondering about it since it started popping up in your shorts. That didn’t sound right. You know what I mean. 😂

[@broketackle]

You got some awesome tools and machines in you shop brother. Love your channel.

[@mounirturki7106]

You are a professional worker at work and you always amaze us with really beautiful things. You are skilled in your work. I love working professionally and mastering it ✌️😎👍

[@juanj.smithrobertob.sarcos1347]

You're ONE OF THE ACTOR of NOW YOU SEE ME, Right? The one with hypnotizing scheme😁✌

[@MurraydeLues]

I went from a standard saw to a slider. Bit intimidating to start with but oh so good once you get the hang of it.

[@bomberokarpentero9381]

I'm so jealous. Hehehhe! How nice to have it. Much more convenient than traditional table saw.

[@A_Ck9]

I like your videos because you are using high quality machines and tools thumb up .

[@aaronoconnor606]

It's kind of funny how people say you need more space for a saw like this but in reality you need this much space for table saw for the material you need that much space around the saw. For braking down sheet goods or lumber anyway so if you are building furniture or cabinets. This type of saw is way more useful. Expensive but it would pay for itself in 6 months for a cabinet or furniture building shop

[@hubstar6960]

After almost 20 years working as cabinet maker on both continents (Europe and North America) there are couple things I noticed. First, w are far behind Europe when it comes to machinery, equipment and hardware w use here. It's not that it is not available here, but not popular as in Europe. Same with the cabinet hardware. Things had started to change when we are started making frameless cabinets like they do in Europe. With that said, it takes more skills to be cabinet maker in America than Europe. Here in America we can make beautifully wood kitchen, millwork, crafts on regular table saw, jig saw and belt sander from home Depot. It's not an option in Europe. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of great craftsmen in Europe, it's about the way how people work. Here in America, barely any shop use track saw which is a game changer when it comes to work on site. But it's just a matter of time.

[@batmansdad3195]

First time I was introduced to a slide saw was Richard at finish carpentry tv bought one for his garage.

[@ThinkHarderPlz]

You have all the best toys.

[@andreygub5216]

Лучшая мастерская мира и лучший мастер.

[@ravenheart1439]

Would love to have your old saw lol...this one is sooooo nice and big....

[@tcrotunda9856]

One of the comments mentions these are more for industrial use… I finally have the ability to purchase my own table saw. I was looking at Sawstop, but I really like the idea of owning one of these. Do they make smaller and more affordable ones? Everything I’ve seen is 10k and 100sqft. I really think these companies are missing a huge market by not making smaller versions for home users.

[@JSC60]

Great video! I love my slider.

[@dustylumberco]

Thanks!

[@quietwarf1019]

Nice 👍. We have a straight line ripsaw thats a beast easily cuts 5”thick oak but unfortunately cannot bevel. Great for glue joints on bigger timber though.

[@jj-hb8cy]

Burning through the info. Well done!

[@kelvindawe5123]

O God these videos are like carpenter porn the saw the work shop just looking around the back ground I can't cope mate I think the missus has to go and upgrade my work shop. 👍

[@petkopetkopp]

I like this stationary TSV 60.

[@bradymiguel]

There’s seriously less than $500 between the comparable SawStop model with some of these features. That includes shipping, which is $650 with SawStop and *FREE* with the Maksiwa. 🤯

[@jorgeluisrodriguezgomez1837]

Greetings from Havana. CUBA

[@henriquepastl4921]

That saw is my dream, this is a brazilian brand.

[@cristianpop3830]

Este un circular profesional industrial de 30 de ani lucrez cu asemenea utilaje toate marca Casolin 👍 salut from România 🤟

[@gazkoci3273]

SUPER OPSIONE E KOMPLETUAR ❤ ❤ ❤

[@rwbuchwald]

That thing is awesome!! It’s a dream machine

[@dannygreen6145]

That is a very nice set up!

[@LimitedGunnerGM]

I like that you are never behind the blade (in the path of kickback).

[@districtwork]

У нас это форматно-раскроечный станок. Такие в каждой шараге есть, и их не жалеют: через 5 лет станок превращается в металлолом

[@davidsilvercreek8541]

Do the same thing with a sheet of plywood a a 2/4x1inch solid wood strips to make 2 8 ft straight edges that mount together for 16 ft....

[@johnfrederickson3082]

Outstanding video!

[@dustylumberco]

Thank you!!

[@black_dragon-carpentry]

To every one saying they don't have room.... You do. There are so many ways to incorporate them into a material processing station

[@toughgamer2960]

i was watching all the sawstop vids and then realized - if you have the space in your workshop, this is virtually 100 times safer than a traditional table saw

[@jasonwest2064]

Now I need a slidesaw lol.

[@Witty..UserName]

maybe turn the phone 90° when filming? great rundown though, thanks.

[@pleappleappleap]

Great information, but I'm a little disturbed by all the jump cuts.

[@thomasschafer7268]

😅cool saw. But better control place and size of your raving knife.👍🇩🇪

[@user-lw7pi4mg1e]

Молодец!Успехов и изобилия!

[@MCEdziits]

The universal saw. You can do everything with it ;)

[@ferdinandlauffer]

Known as "Format Saws", these saws are standard equipment in any European woodworking shop. They are pricey, but you get what you pay for.

[@ronelkins1057]

Altendorf make a nice one.

[@ginoasci2876]

no brainer. it’s extra cool that it has a scoring blade.

[@chrisnash2154]

Sweet! I just need 10s of thousands of dollars and business plan to justify buying it and I’m in!🤣

[@sb_boiler]

Доказывать что формате к лучше циркулярки, как-то комично.

[@bigdogmn73]

Sliders are the best. Just wish they weren't so $$

[@henokfentaw5634]

i am henok from ethiopia also afernithur man i have somemi portebul wood machins but I ned this sliding machin place i needed your contribution because I have information you separated for athers

[@woodshed_moments]

BEAST MODE!

[@jessefurqueron5555]

Looked long and hard at sliders when shopping a few years back. Felder has a showroom/warehouse local here. Started talking options etc (wanted a different arm and infeed/outfeed setup to fit needs and space) on one of their smaller saws and they started talking “months” for delivery..like >= 6 months. Got to thinking of lead times for replacement parts. Mind you this was well before Covid. Also, the nickel and diming started adding up. Be sure and get a delivery and setup quote, these machines ain’t light. Check out service prices too. Cha Ching cha Ching. So went old school. PM2000b w heavy duty metal framed 52” extension table. Nixed installing the vise, frankenstiened a Sawstop 4” overarm (dust collection) in place of the vice. Old Delta had a overarm and it was awesome, split guard was very well designed, just no built in dust collection. Add Veritas hold down wheels on fence (magnetic quick release) and a Jessem miter gauge. Then for large panel cutting & breakdown, went w a Festool TS75 and about 25’ or so of track (think long mahogany countertops in library). Was around 8k-9k(?) for all that w/o tax at the time, including a couple of blades for TS75 and other Festool & TSO accessories, no new 10” blades as already had Forrest blades from the old Delta. Not a Woodpeckers “collector”, no red wall in the shop (we’re not YTubers 😉), but do have a few of their stainless tools and a al saddle square. The first tool of theirs purchased was the tsaw setup gauge, really do like it a lot, nice design, couldn’t have made one for anywhere near what was paid for the WP. It’s a one trick pony, but its very accurate for wood processing machines (half of our shop is metal working - VMC & metal lathe, so used to thous). The combination “US popular style” table saw + Euro track saw works great in a packed smallish (20x40ish) shop. Very flexible for tackling different projects. Do miss the Unifence terribly 😥 Today, would a slider still be considered? Possibly, but it would definitely be a different brand than was looked at (Felder sales experience was a turn off). Noticed watching Pedulla w his slider, he seems to have to lean way over when ripping narrower boards, don’t think my back would like that for long. So would be inclined to have both types in the shop. Remember, a lot of these sliders are 3phase…hey, 12”/14” blades are part of the “draw” (bad dad pun) for this type of saw…so calculate in converters if you (like I) don’t have 3 phase avail. Coupla shows coming up here in Texas, might have to look at which slider vendors (if any) are going be at em. As always, YMMV. Just sharing. Nothing more. Nothing less. Have a good ‘un.

[@nisarahmadchoudhry1576]

Viry nice wark brothers

[@pablorodriguez6787]

Pero me gustaría verla en acción! 🇲🇽😃👍

[@osocarpinterocarpinteria]

Wow, that’s amazing

[@dottyjyoung]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA! Oh, I want a warehouse for my resale business. Now I know: I'll be sharing it with a Woodshop.

[@abdourahmanetall4969]

Je ne comprend pas ce que vous dites mais la machine est très intéressante

[@saleemspmify]

I really want to learn this work😍😍

[@ketankhandekar3198]

Awesome machine 🙌👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@JakePlisskin12]

I want one so bad......

[@marcguedj2268]

Com d'hab super avec un matos de folies

[@Paulo-gd9ru]

Isto sim que é uma máquina de primeira linha.

[@antonisrizopoulos]

WOW DUDE Awesome! this is a monster! \m/

[@gustavohasan3131]

The difference is in the budget buddy. Come down to earth

[@ReinholdStattelmann]

You can get a small sliding table saw from 4000€. Not that much more money to spend in comparison to delta, sawstop, powermatic cabinet saws.

[@singlefather01]

I want one. I used to dream about Sawstop. Now....

[@donmartinez3537]

Don’t waist $ on the saw stop! Jump!

[@LitoGeorge]

me too.

[@pauljastrzebiec-milewski4410]

Just looking at the equipment you have, you must have an investment in a range of $250-500,000 Not achievable for DIY-er. But it's nice to see some tricks of the trade. Thanks.😢

[@DeltaKilo9]

More content like this please.

[@jorgeluisrodriguezgomez1837]

I love it

[@dabj9546]

Those are indeed very nice but the cheap ones start at 10k so...

[@xxxcarpfishing1657]

In the UK all shops use table saws

[@kenf2662]

Love the slider, So is this video a how to for your subscribers that have $10 K table saws.

[@M30263]

Awesome tool for anyone in the cabinet business. Otherwise I’d have to pass and go with a regular pro model with slide options etc. That saw is Beast Mode! Love it. But 10-15k. Not in my vocabulary let alone budget 😂

[@bradymiguel]

You must not see this guys content.

[@M30263]

@@bradymiguel I have. Subscribed. I am simply stating i have to pass. 🤷‍♂️

[@magdihassan3978]

Thanks for your excellent videos Will appreciate if u let me the model number and the price of this sliding table saw as well as ur mitre saw which cut horizontally and vertically Thanks