Dutch Mantell on CM Punk's Interview on MMA Hour

[@ChunkyKong-47]

One thing I’ve noticed is that a lot of people are willing to ignore everything jack Perry did to lead to this. Everyone focuses on the choke which is obviously wrong but Perry was going around cussing out coworkers and higher ups, and not listening to what he was told. Most jobs he would have already been fired, not allowed out on tv. Obviously punk shouldn’t do what he did but is Perry just allowed to act however he wants with no consequences? If Perry is allowed to play by wrestler rules, so is punk

[@unknownsample4801]

lets not also forget before the whole Wembley thing the bucks set up a sitdown with punk the day before in Atlanta and they cancelled conveniently at the last min so left his home to meet the bucks and then had to travel to Wembley and Punk arrive with no one to pick him up, because the person in charge of the travel is friends with the bucks.

[@isaaclikesturtles]

To be fair all of this story is from cm punk himself so the main issue is everyone is taking his word as the definitive

[@richardcelaya7361]

​@@isaaclikesturtlesyou should stick to turtles. Context is bereft from you

[@dicktacossimulatedsportsne4364]

tbh, I would've decked perry the second he walked through the curtain. Perception is key in the audience in wrestling and he shit all over punk.

[@IASP17]

a lot of people are willing to ignore everything that everybody else besides Punk did. its been like that since the start.

[@TheIslandDivision]

NXT Adam Cole was at all the AEW parties, no one felt betrayed.

[@boots8562]

Negative One was at Wrestlemania 39 and 40. I wonder if AEW will rescind his contract once he's 18.

[@EwanCumia]

@@boots8562 I'm shocked Tony didn't terminate his contract.

[@5150Timex]

Nobody has pointed out that the bucks did the same thing to Cody they did with Punk. The rumors were that the bucks attacked Cody verbally and refused to talk to Cody. Cody asked to leave because the company was going in a different direction than they talked about, all same things Punk said 2 years later.

[@Djewel710]

👏

[@granitemonkey]

Yup, people forget Cody and The Bucks got into arguments

[@MrTeamBringIt123]

@@granitemonkeyWas it reported what the arguments were about? I never knew they had some beef

[@jeremiahnewson2260]

Now look where he is at and where they are at He the champ he a draw He the guy and they are using footage to to get viewers

[@granitemonkey]

@@MrTeamBringIt123 Not necessarily, just arguments. I can find the article for you

[@bellyOfaTiger]

It's fair to call Punk an asshole premadonna, it's fair to say he only cares about himself, and it's fair to say he can rub people the wrong way. But one thing you can't call him is a liar.

[@robertnapier624]

And he isn’t afraid to make his feelings known. Good bad or otherwise.

[@secularbelt]

I don’t think it’s fair to say he only cares about himself.

[@ISetYourFaceOnFire]

"it's fair to say he only cares about himself" ass take lmao.

[@Beanz06]

I’m late I think him saying he only cares about himself is crazy

[@bellyOfaTiger]

I know he doesn't care only about himself, but that viewpoint is subjective and there's plenty of people who think that. That's why my objective statement was you can't call him a liar.

[@victory7763]

Now watch people act all shocked and offended when the footage releases. They'll ignore what led to that boy jack perry getting choked out. They'll just focus on the choke itself

[@badladyami]

They can't show real Wembley security footage, per UK law. This is a trash B&S by Bull Buck and Shit Buck to set up their continured burial of FTR.

[@TheIslandDivision]

Got to get the edit right before Wednesday or whenever it is. 😂 I bet the Bucks are filming some bs goofball victory lap skit.

[@CheknoEternity]

Which is funny because we all knew Punk choked out Perry. It’s not gonna change our minds about him even if one sees the footage 😂

[@alcheman12]

I guarantee the footage won't show the confrontation beforehand or Elephant boy's little comment on camera Just the choke out. If it's even real

[@victory7763]

@TheIslandDivision lmao right. This is definitely going be edited and told at a certain angle to continue the smear campaign

[@christhornycroft3686]

This is why you don't make talent authority figures in your wrestling company. Everyone's blaming Phil Brooks, but I remember when I decided to check out AEW on the rumour that CM Punk, a guy I wasn't necessarily a fan of because I haven't watched wrestling regularly in decades but who there was a lot of buzz around, was signing with them. I went on their website to see who was on their roster, and I was taken aback at not just the active wrestlers who were in executive positions but the no-named wrestlers in executive positions. I'm sure these guys have a following with the internet crowd and in TNA, New Japan or wherever else they've wrestled, but I'd never heard of these guys. When I looked up Kenny Omega, people were calling him the second coming of Brian Pillman, but every KZbin video I saw of him led me to the opposite conclusion. He seemed like a joke. I barely knew CM Punk from Adam, but now I kind of love the guy. He's a Bret Hart fan, and from what I've seen an actual storyteller in the ring. He doesn't just do moves to get pops and he can cut a great promo. I never got caught up in the CM Punk hype, though. Having said that, it sounds like he's right. He worked with kids and they were his bosses. He came to AEW to draw money and help build the company. Clearly that was a secondary goal for everyone else in the company. They say all the right things, but they don't walk the walk.

[@NodakSavage]

100%

[@TN.DeadHead1861]

Litterly me haha

[@badladyami]

2:39 Tony betrayed Punk when he didn't put the Theatre Club in their fucking place after Brawl Out.

[@dkupke]

Punk was far from innocent, but it’s still all on Tony. As silly as it is to encourage violence, he should have told all of them “Go out in the parking lot and settle this right now, or find a way to live with each other because this doesn’t do anyone any good.”

[@vb2806]

​@@dkupkePunk was never innocent because he has a lot of entitlement too but Tony could have made a lot of Money with him

[@davidholdren1358]

It shouldn't have even got that far

[@douglasmurphy3266]

I think the tampering issue with Punk being backstage at WWE would be that he had a dual contract that made him office. Different than Starks showing up with Cody.

[@2trill4life1]

Exactly

[@aquariums5154]

The best part of hearing about 80s wrestling is remembering how the audience reacted to it. Especially USWA fans. I was in Jonesboro, USWA had shows here often so it felt very “real”for us on Saturday mornings.

[@L.m.CeeTee]

The backstage footage is gonna be shown on Dynamite. Khanman is Desperate for Ratings.

[@nataliescott2261]

Sad he has to rely on punk to get them ratings if they show it then doesn’t nda be nullified?

[@L.m.CeeTee]

@@nataliescott2261 I think he’s showing the jungle boy footage not the brawl out footage.

[@Simouno]

The only ones who should have been fired are the Bucks. AEW could have made money with Punk vs Omega or Punk vs Page, the Bucks ruined everything and used their positions to push personal agendas

[@goodmooneung]

Nothing factual that lead me to it but I believe that the Bucks are the reason why Hangman came to the conclusion that Punk is why Colt Cabana got moved to ROH or got "fired" from AEW. Omega hadn't been backstage for a bit prior to returning from injury while in terms of the "bosses" who have been in the back it's TK and the Bucks.

[@rawrbeez6625]

Another thing I’ve not seen anyone bring up is Jack Perry’s stupid “real glass” remark actually exposed Blackpool Combat Clubs stadium stampede match a few minutes later whose finish required the use of gimmicked glass. That’s such an unforgivable crime in the wrestling world, it was so disrespectful to the business.

[@TheGM-20XX]

Don't know how I got here, but I'm glad I did.

[@bonechip01]

I watch Dutch every week now, he's the most chill and so is James.

[@vb2806]

​@@bonechip01same here, I watch him regularly because he is chill but I mainly watch Cornette

[@NodakSavage]

I kinda wonder too since you commented 3 says ago and this video was only posted 9 hours ago

[@TheGM-20XX]

@@NodakSavage It popped up on autoplay. still don't know how it got there.

[@Danny_S.]

Say what you want about Punk but Perry really comes off as an entitled nobody with higher-up friends who will back up his BS.

[@Gargoyle_75]

Punk does not end good in this drama, neither do the Bucks or Page. But the worse-off are TK and JP without a doubt. Perry needed to be told "no" by three different people before they ask Punk to talk to him. After his match at All In, TK should have said to Punk "I’m dealing with it, you prepare for your match". Then either fire JP or suspend him without pay. He would still have Punk. Now he’s got no Punk, no Perry. Perry should have stayed in Jurassic Express. There is no prospect for him in solo mode, especially with this stupid finisher.

[@naxireal869]

Oh yeah typical Gen Z issues combined with "kid of celebrity". Like no offense to Dutch but he's basing his assessment on both parties involved being adults. Like Punk said that locker room is basic an uncontrolled daycare. I'd take the inmates running an asylum over that nonsense personally. Like let's be real the Bucks are total tools and just as much someone else's puppets as they are the puppet masters.

[@rofbagging9749]

Perry reminds me of underachieving coworkers I had that have friends in management and are entitled to the rewards of the top performers. Fuck this guy.

[@TheFinishedArticle]

Listen to what bubba ray had to say about him, You are absolutely right.

[@HkFinn83]

@@Gargoyle_75 punk comes across well in this imo. Like he’s the only one actually trying to help the business for AEW. Perry comes across as a child and Tony like a wimp

[@that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG]

Dutch and James need to react and listen to the interview for a video. It will DEFINITELY get plays, and honestly, the both of you sound like you know the basic story of what happened but havent actually listened to the interview lol. Id honestly love to listen to Dutch have his flabber be gasted with the exposé Punk dropped 😅😂

[@j03k0oldyer]

Wow James y'all got up to 116,000. SWEET! Storytime & Corny are #1 all day everyday!

[@BryanThompson99]

6:10 the "old lady" was Nancy Sullivan!

[@boraonline7036]

Think of Punk what you like, but if you hear how Tony and some on AEW react, you wonder if those people are really old enough to do business. What a Kindergarden!

[@1983jcheat]

Elephant boy? Jack needs to ride out to the ring on one. 😂😂😂

[@DiceKrispy]

Elephant Man, an 80s movie, came to mind

[@KamikazeDreamer]

Punk at raw is betrayal but Ricky Starks and Dustin Rhodes at wrestlemania isn't

[@breno7950]

You're missing the point guys. No one told jungle jack to get a rental car. It's such a sloppy shop that he decided he could do whatever he wanted.

[@cheechdubinsky6709]

Punk wearing a punk shirt, so cool 😂

[@1nstantClassic]

All this drama over Elephant Boy. SMH

[@westsidera97]

Don't disrespect Elephant Boy he was over in the 60s 😅😂

[@naxireal869]

More like Houseplant Boy, seriously anyone believe Jackov Perry has ever seen a tree that wasn't in a city park or someone's yard?

[@ziahamm1603]

Jack Perry's legacy is this....This guy basically helped repair one of the most burnt bridges in all of professional wrestling. Hell burnt is generous, one of the most obliterated bridges in Pro Wrestling. It doesnt matter if he somehow became an AEW main eventer and win the World Title 10 times before his career is done. This is all he will ever be known for now and how he will be defined. All because he is a jumped up petty little shit who wouldnt listen to those who knew better. Punk on the other will probably be a key figure in looking after and running nXt and have a job there for life (if he behaves himself)

[@dkupke]

“Guys, I’m giving you an option. Go out in the parking and settle this once and for all right now, or find a way to live with each other. Because this isn’t doing any of us any good. And if none of you want to do that, you don’t have to work here.” “We have come to terms on the release of CM Punk due to irreconcilable differences. We wish him well.” That’s all it should have taken.

[@TomTom-rh5gk]

Chris Benoit looked wacky and was always nuts.

[@jasonbush741]

First I’ve heard anyone speculate that Jungle Boy had permission. Not sure I buy-in to that. Would be surprised that talent would feel the need to get permission directly from Tony on something like that. The EVPs seem to have power at times and at other times not, depending on how easy it is take or assign credit/blame for something. Jungle Boy could feel comfortable just asking them for permission. In regards to Collision, Punk seemed to either oversee or at least be able to make a call on something. Of course, I could see this not being communicated to talent whatsoever. It happens all the time in industry. Someone within an office gets elevated as a decision gatekeeper for their group without management clearly letting all of his/her peers know that.

[@TheChrisPhoenix]

All Punk did was confirm what we've been saying for years now with AEW, from it being ran as a joke and that TK is a poor excuse for a boss.

[@robertnapier624]

If Jack Perry did no wrong, why has he been absent for the past several months? One of several questions we have pertaining to what on earth the young bucks’ end goal is regarding airing the backstage footage

[@81ghale]

I loved watching Memphis on Saturday mornings in the mid 80’s. Some of my earliest memories really was Dutch and Lawler. I hated it when I slept too long, I’ve been a night owl since a child so I’ve never been a morning person, but I always wanted to watch “wasslin” Saturday. I had a ring with (knockoff 😂) wrestlers that I wore out back then in front of the tv. I really miss the way wrestling was presented. I’m actually getting reluctantly excited with WWE right now. I haven’t watched since the end of the AE. Shit got too hokey. Then AEW came with this promise of having a product that looked and acted like they were really doing the things to each other they showed on tv. But it only took about a week to see that was complete bullshit. But WWE seems like they’re bringing some reality back, and maybe more important, their talent seems to get it and are acting the same way. I don’t get why these other guys can’t act like it’s real. How hard is that, to only do shit that’s actually POSSIBLE? I have hopes for WWE and who knows maybe I’ll get back in to wrestling.

[@marcelmoreau2733]

choling him a little is a very professional action. of course that profession is not 'wrestling' but another type of physical work...😅

[@mattrussell7883]

Does Dutch even know what day is it?

[@mikejackson1003]

Seriously. It's getting painful listening to his senile rambling

[@Garrettsamuel98]

Chris Benoit used to give me the creeps going all the way back to WCW

[@DrinkYourNailPolish]

I think we're getting worked.

[@vb2806]

That's even worse for them

[@robertnapier624]

@@vb2806 exactly, how is them airing the footage going to benefit them? If Perry did no wrong why has he been MIA for months?

[@JobberJerry]

The whole recalling of the glass and collision story is nothing like punk told it

[@JohnDoe-wy2py]

Once again Tony Khan is acting like the spoiled child that he is. As a boss he should be above this and not rehashing something that happened months ago. Even if the video of the Punk / Perry scuffle shows Punk in a bad light will he be showing what led up to this altercation? How many people will think the video has been edited or altered? Tony Khan is still using CM Punk to get ratings. Sad.

[@knection1986]

26:56 "I think it was the best match on the card....Everyone else disagrees It was one of Punk's best matches in AEW. AEW marks on twitter are not the best barometer for gauging these things because I definitely thought it was the best match on the card.

[@rudyrusso711]

Bungle Mack Jerry...Laahhhhooooosssseeeeeeerrrrr

[@josephlargen8252]

How's Jack perry not wrong

[@shamineamon4880]

"We couldn't do anything with the women. Couldn't even touch them!" I don't know why he's telling James. I mean, if that's not a valid HR complaint I don't know what is.

[@TheTruthWithN]

James gas lighting Dutch to say something negative about AEW makes me laugh. Cause Dutch never really does it’s always advice from “self experience”. He’s a national treasure.

[@jesterr7133]

Blood. Swearing. Half naked women. Let's do it!

[@NoApologiesWithDREandJT69]

Her name was Nancy. Also known as Woman. A little bit of respect goes a long way

[@dannymcelroy922]

You know he's country as shit, and ol lady isn't derogatory right? It's another word for wife to him and she was that. I don't agree with Chris at all for what happened but don't be mad at dutch for skimming the story to get to a point. We all know her name. It's wasn't relevant to the story buddy.

[@rajakghosh6602]

Now Tony have gone out of his way to show the footage of the altercation to satisfy his little bruised ego. The time to show the footage should've been right at time of Punk's exit and not in response Punk's criticisms of the Aew and Tony. TK tried to address the critisms making Adam Copeland do a promo "Aew is where the best wrestles", which he shouldn't have done it in the first place but when that backfired he's resorting to these cheap theatrics to gain viewership. Even after 8 months, Punk brings in more views on AEW than anyone of the backyard trampoline gymnyst. But this would a lot worse. Cody dethroned Roman to usher in the new era and Aew is still using an ex-wwe wrestler to gain eyeballs.

[@TheEvilways81]

Be ready for Pikachu surprise memes when the footage bites Tony in the ass

[@smarkslowplay3512]

Probably just troll shit from the Bucks will be aired

[@magicbryant8]

So, if you believe Punk, then why are you worried about the video?

[@rajakghosh6602]

​@@magicbryant8on the contrary do show the video. It'll only engulf Tony and Aew. But knowing what we know about the clown show over there it'll be a parody video by Bucks and Perry portraying Punk, Tony and Perry as himself doing some comedy routine. WWE is selling out arenas after arenas with main-eventers while the lollipop guild are doing their circus routines.

[@vb2806]

​@@magicbryant8who is worried? Looking forward to it actually

[@that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG]

Its so frustrating hearing both of your speculations when Punk explained everything in the interview 😂 seriously, make some time to listen to it. Its a good listen. 👍

[@joearcher-kg2ce]

Punk lost all credibility to me. His mma crap showed how tough he was. Not very tough but i guess the best fight for him was where the winner is predetermined. After failing at mma to me theres a 100 guys that could replace punk. Keep up the good work james and Yosemite sam mantell lol cheers

[@rawrbeez6625]

TK didn’t tell Jack to get a rental car and smash it, it was Jacks stupid idea. I have zero doubts in my mind TK would have just bought a damn car if this was a planned spot he had already written out and shit.

[@davidholdren1358]

Dutch... Tony Kahn wouldn't listen to you, any more than he hasn't listened to anyone else

[@RickySpanish-hc2hw]

Jungle boy got what he deserved. You mouth off, you get put in your place. Been happening since the dawn of time. The Wrestling business doesn't owe Jack Perry anything.

[@nataliescott2261]

Tony feel betrayed, accuses wwe a contract tampering, but lets wwe star come to there shows approached wwe people before contracts up double standards with that guy

[@anthonym6119]

When did Paige tear punk apart on the mic,this guy does terrible promos.

[@magicbryant8]

Hey James: Rock and Cena talked about Cena going off script on him, but they worked together and were professionals. Rock didn’t fucking cry and run to lawyers like Punk did.

[@PJ20091000]

I bet all the former WWE stars regret going to AEW.

[@EwanCumia]

Depends on the money.

[@fmthebaron]

6:40-7:22 lmao that's going to trigger the Benoit fans.

[@bjg8638]

CM Punk is an entertaining asshole lol that interview was nuts. He doesn't really come off looking good, but neither does TK, Jack Perry, or AEW. A Heel v Heel program if you will.

[@squarepickle]

This isn't an Attitude Era. Come on now. Lol. Today's culture couldn't handle another Attitude Era. The second a woman got hit by a man, or there was a bra and panties match, or a legit Attitude Era style promo where someone was called a s**t or a re***d, the snowflake fans (the majority at this point) would have a meltdown. Today's fans are too weak minded and sensitive for anything resembling the Attitude Era. I think when Today's fans say "Attitude Era" they're actually remembering how the Ruthless Aggression Era was. The Attitude Era was far too edgy for these people. That's what made it so great.

[@DiceKrispy]

Bra and panties matches were an embarrassment to the business. The women are still wearing revealing clothes today but they can actually wrestle now (most the time)

[@squarepickle]

@DiceKrispy Ladies and gentlemen, I give you exhibit A. 💁🏼‍♂️

[@DiceKrispy]

@squarepickle Idgaf what losers like you find attractive, I'm here for wrestlers who can wrestle! Not models who don't know the difference between a wristwatch and a wrist lock. Also I'm not looking for a wank like a wanker like you cause I'm an adult with a wife

[@DiceKrispy]

@squarepickle I prefer a more adult product as well but simply requiring a higher tv rating isn't inherently better and raises the entry point for young audiences. The idea of getting rid of the talented women today for untrained models truly is, as you say, re***d

[@robertnapier624]

Today’s era shouldn’t be another attitude or ruthless aggression era. It should take certain elements from those eras and blend them together.

[@girldaddividendinvestor]

What a nothing burger

[@tallglasscocoa6105]

When fans were talking about Perry's standoff I would rather be somewhere else than here attitude at the meet and greet. AEW EVPs should've put foot to as$ then and that was before CM Punk. How does a talent have more pull than the EVPs who found the company. That was so disrespectful.

[@jacobbuckley8232]

Tony kahn and the Bucks are all clowns. AEW is dying

[@MM-qo4to]

Punk is a professional victim.

[@ebransc09]

Why are you wasting so much of the show on that stupid Benoit tangent?

[@davidslayer]

it was beyond lame.

[@slimeosama]

Dudes are being too harsh on Jack Perry just because they like CM Punk. CM Punk was extremely childish too and somehow Perry gets all the heat, he's only 26 and Punk is pushing 50. Gramps should have handled the situation better

[@battlemole8233]

Here is the thing. This was not perrys first time of Boeing asshole, uk event, his interaction with guys like dudley, jr, billy gunn. If somebody with authority would have put their foot down with perry this whole shit show would not happened. And punk is not innocent either, guy has a ego and temper but he has mind for the business

[@vb2806]

He is getting heat because he is a nobody with that attitude and his boss doesn't fire him after the first incident

[@jefferyorton1723]

The ONLY reason Punk ever got popular was because CM Punk rhymes with Terry Funk. That's it. Plain and simple.

[@princejacksoniv6049]

Cm puke was a user

[@SkyrimOblivion86]

What great accomplishment have you achieved

[@DrinkYourNailPolish]

Punk's whole gimmick has become: leave a company, talk crap abt it.

[@Gargoyle_75]

Not pretending Punk is perfect, but if he wasn’t talking about what is wrong in AEW, nobody else will, and there is no chance AEW could get better. The problem is still there: Matt Hardy refused to re-sign in AEW.

[@rondoughhowell6442]

well AEW has problems and someone need to talk about it

[@captaincat4361]

Most people do talk bad about the place they worked but honestly be real, he was let go from WWE on his wedding day. Wouldn't you be pissed? After 10 years of dealing with Vince's shit? He has talked both good and bad about the WWE. Also,, his whole gimmick? He never talked bad about ROH, TNA, UFC, Fox, among other places. Even in his interview, he was really nice about the company, called Tony Khan a nice guy but a lousy boss, said he had friends there. It seems to me that he covered the good and bad. Like it or not, if all you care about is 5 star matches in front of a couple of thousand people, then you aren't a business man.

[@rondoughhowell6442]

@@captaincat4361 exactly, 5 star matches don't always draw especially if it doesn't have a good story behind it

[@vb2806]

I mean he was hired exactly for that in aew.

[@SuperWamJake]

Hope nobody is too attached to seeing Punk on TV, once the footage of the backstage drops, there is a very good chance he will be in prison shortly after.

[@JohnDoe-wy2py]

In prison? What are you smoking?

[@rondoughhowell6442]

and you are a fool for believing that crap

[@vb2806]

Haha sure buddy

[@dmoody4047]

Elephant boy burner account found 🤣

[@alexs7670]

If that were true tony would have shown it to authorities immediately.

[@ronin86_Oi]

This is old already guys , stop using punk as clicks for your channel, this news is old , WrestleMania happened and you just uploaded this?????

[@redactedandredactedaccesor7290]

They made the video already. Get over it.

[@starcade90]

CM Cancer.

[@GaryFrood]

???

[@Coldstone47034]

I had cancer & I'm sick of seeing people call him that. Very ignorant to listen to those idiots called the elite.

[@gewitterhund3164]

@@GaryFrood AEW-mark.

[@wonkeydonkeyTV]

Grow up ya sad goof

[@patrickhuntoon534]

Dave Meltzer ass sucker alert 🚨 ‼️