Record Cleaning Madness 2020

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Bill's Box Of Sound

Bill's Box Of Sound

4 жыл бұрын

It's been about three years since I made a record cleaning video and the complaints about what I've done wrong are many. I feature the complaints as well as my new methods...I finally broke down and got a decent record vacuum. Please enjoy, I may never make a record cleaning video again!
#vinylcommunity #cleanrecords #audiophile

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@836dmar
@836dmar 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many smart people on the web, you’d think they’d be fixing the wrongs in the world or sharing their stockpile of “correct” information but their intellect is better used criticizing others. Great video, pal.
@CraigLafferty
@CraigLafferty 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your time and effort in this video!
@pmackrael
@pmackrael 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill. I enjoy your videos. Perhaps I am old fashioned. Being on paid leave due to Covid-19, I have had time to clean my classical LP collection. My method is cheap, simple and effective. I modified a used "Lazy Susan" and made a "vinyl-vac" attachment for my small shop vac. After using a microfiber cloth to remove any surface dust, I pour a small (2 inch diameter) puddle of TM-8 cleaning fluid on the record then spread it evenly around the record with a Mobile Fidelity flat felt brush - avoiding the label. I then use a goat hair brush to push the fluid into the grooves before vacuuming the record surface dry. After cleaning both sides, I put the record into a new static resistant sleeve. I recently cleaned 300 classical records which used about 22 oz. cleaning fluid and my average time was 6 minutes per record. Cheers Bill.
@mariomontalvo9159
@mariomontalvo9159 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I like the fact that your method are constantly evolving.
@christopherrobinwattsthoma6318
@christopherrobinwattsthoma6318 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and can’t stress enough the importance of cleaning even ‘new/mint’ records!!!!
@andywebb9698
@andywebb9698 3 жыл бұрын
Some fantastic information here. I've been cleaning my records in a similar way for years but now I have some new tips to go forward with. Cheers mate 😎
@51gary51
@51gary51 3 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed your video, Bill. And you're right -- to each his own! If people can't handle that, they can take a flying leap!
@allenreynolds2449
@allenreynolds2449 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your ideas, appreciate it.
@TheBigfoot567
@TheBigfoot567 3 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT VIDEO. I'm inspired and entertained! Thank you---!!!!
@gregthomas2852
@gregthomas2852 3 жыл бұрын
Great follow-up, very amusing! Whilst theres lots of love out there for the Spin-Clean, the more videos of it I see, theres just too many aspects of it that can't be good - like the fact you start with a crystal clean distilled water / brushes / cleaning solution bath, and a few records in, its no doubt full of dirt and yuck off the records you already cleaned? I'm liking the look of this goat hair brush and single application method - theres far less risk of transfer of dirt onto multiple records, and an existing turntable makes a great lazy Susan for cleaning. Nice video, Bill, have a 'like'.
@ldeemou
@ldeemou Жыл бұрын
Haha, I love how you troll the Trolls! Thank you for your eye opening videos!
@PedroPedro-jm4lk
@PedroPedro-jm4lk 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you...down to earth information. And I love the comment about opinions. Made me chuckle, here in Blightey.
@petergiersberg1759
@petergiersberg1759 2 жыл бұрын
first time listening to your channel.. your attitude is what keeped me watching this video to the end .. 👍
@funkjunkie6052
@funkjunkie6052 2 жыл бұрын
Great video really enjoyed your perspective. You gave me a couple of great ideas to try. Great attitude about the comments as well.
@richardweidner1625
@richardweidner1625 2 жыл бұрын
awesome stuff. thank you
@danender5555
@danender5555 8 ай бұрын
Pouring a liquid over the record on the turntable is a pure genius idea. This video combines absolute wisdom with great knowledge. Divine level.
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 8 ай бұрын
The turntable shown is not a working turntable, it is broken and only suitable as a platform for cleaning records. I would never put liquid on a turntable used for listening, that could be dangerous.
@bareknuckles2u
@bareknuckles2u 3 жыл бұрын
Man, that is one heck of a record collection!
@pmackrael
@pmackrael 3 жыл бұрын
I bought most of these classical LPs in the 80s. 300 records takes 5 feet of horizontal shelf space. I recently modified two wall units to move these records from floor level to eye level. Got tired of bending down.
@fletchermetz3395
@fletchermetz3395 4 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos and listening to your podcasts for over a decade. Everything you've ever shared has been in the spirit of collaboration and providing useful tips. How can anybody slight you for that? I'm all about doing things on a budget, Spin Clean works great for me and it was a wonderful suggestion and demonstration you had for people in the same boat. Still use it and it still gets a ton of garbage and dust off the records. Are there better ones? Sure, but I'm looking for good enough. As long as there is an internet, there will be trolls. I call their pursuit misplaced priorities. Appreciate all your stuff.
@keithaw4204
@keithaw4204 8 ай бұрын
Dude, I remember your SpinClean video. I was sold, got myself a SpinClean because of your review. I started sleeving my records differently because of your advice. I was still pretty new at the time of your SpinClean video. I have since gotten a VPI 16.5 and now recently an Ultrasonic cleaner. I still have and use the SpinClean. Happy spinning!!
@breizhmauserfokker4647
@breizhmauserfokker4647 3 жыл бұрын
Zappa T shirt, sure you're a good one!
@stuartroyle1402
@stuartroyle1402 3 жыл бұрын
first thing i saw
@vincentrathbone26
@vincentrathbone26 2 жыл бұрын
Loved your video dude and it's always interesting to here about other peoples record cleaning methods, I've been thinking of getting a Nitty Gritty or VPI record cleaner for the last 35yrs and I still can't decide what to get.
@curtbradley549
@curtbradley549 Жыл бұрын
All good love your vids !! Cheers .
@HeroicCoachDan
@HeroicCoachDan Жыл бұрын
While I am cleaning my very short list of vinyl lp's, I am learning some methods to be efficient and effective at the task. I found your video informative and the delivery was authentically humorous. Nice! I am doing standard care cleaning with Groovewasher kit and Audioquest carbon brush for dry cleaning. From your video I am taking away adding more of the liquid on first wash for new and used lp's. Thanks
@mikewatkinson1996
@mikewatkinson1996 8 ай бұрын
One of the rules of the interwebs is Do Not Feed the Trolls. If they think their way is superior...cool...as long as you're giving me advice that works for you and its been working a long time...im gonna listen and its all good. Most these folks just want your reaction. Thanks for the great vids
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 8 ай бұрын
I may be doing another record cleaning video to show my adventures in ultrasonic technology. Appreciate your comment!
@johnnytoobad7785
@johnnytoobad7785 3 жыл бұрын
I'll listen to anyone wearing a Zappa T-shirt.
@somisak
@somisak 2 жыл бұрын
If it was Harry Styles I'd have turned right off 😀
@cardnut
@cardnut 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill. You are right, there are so many ways to clean a record. I always clean any record I get, either new or old. I have the Spin Clean that you showed in the video. Each record gets a spin clean when I first get them. The next time I play it, I use Groove Washer G2 fluid. I don't have a turntable like you do to put them on. I have them on a cloth microfiber towel when I spray them with G2. I also have the same kind of brush you have that I use right before I play the record. I also clean my stylus with Groove Washer stylus cleaner. This is what works for me. I just subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to more good info. Thanks.
@Beatgeneration2010
@Beatgeneration2010 3 жыл бұрын
Great detail and some job on The Traffic album👍
@presleyfan425v3
@presleyfan425v3 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the disc doctor’s miracle record cleaner for a while now and I think it is the best fluid out there. I spread it evenly across the record and let it sit for a minute or two and then I do a distilled water rinse. After that I use a handy inexpensive product called the VINYL VAC, which hooks up to my shop vac and the liquid vacuums right off like a charm. Now crackles and pops are a thing of the past, for the most part, and every one of my records have benefited from a good cleaning
@clavichord327
@clavichord327 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Bill! I use the same cleaning method that you do. My only difference is that when I rinse the record, I use a Home Depot Portable Sprayer (Cost $6) filled with distilled water to rinse my records clean. I like this sprayer because you hand pump the jug to make a pressurized flow of distilled water. You can also further adjust the flow of the water at the nozzle to as strong or as lightly as you like. I follow this rinse using a vac system similar to yours.
@davidroot298
@davidroot298 3 жыл бұрын
You’re a brave man just to show how you clean your records. I also have my way of cleaning And I say to you. Very well done. To most of us it’s a hobby we love. To others it’s trying to reach perfection. Either way we should just enjoy and only give our opinion if asked for. Keep up the good work. I’m going to play some records now.
@ganeshkumarponnuswamy
@ganeshkumarponnuswamy 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your efforts. Off course the way you trolled the trolls are enjoyable..
@rolandmg1
@rolandmg1 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, record cleaning is so important and even more so with new vinyl. I’ve bought a few lately that have sounded so awful and have taken three cleans before they were quiet and enjoyable.
@larrysanimalsafari
@larrysanimalsafari 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video and entertaining too, LOL ...stick it to em Bill.
@kev5621
@kev5621 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I do the same thing (on a junked turntable as well). I use a groove washer solution with a Mofi brush, and a vacuum attachment (like the vinyl vac, but the one I have works with my Dyson). It has literally made some of my older, well played records play like new.
@hogheavencamp3069
@hogheavencamp3069 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill. Thank you for an excellent video. I am new to record cleaning so your advice is invaluable. I have a couple of questions about this video. First, at 12:34 into the video you say "Put some of this on it, but this is concentrated so use some of the other record cleaning fluid (with it). Can you tell me which two products you refer to there? Second question: Can you tell me how you make your homebrew enzymatic cleaner? Thanks very much. Jim
@VinylPro
@VinylPro Жыл бұрын
very useful tips !
@vasilyzimbrakos7654
@vasilyzimbrakos7654 4 жыл бұрын
1st and foremost those are 2 great albums. This was definitely entertaining and informative and glad you went after the trolls! Just found your 2017 and will try that method 1st and compare to what I've used. Why not try something different if it works better.
@nemru1670
@nemru1670 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Bill. I use vacuum cleaner Kuzma. My process. Liquid: L’art du son (speading using Kuzma's brush). >> Waiting for 3-4 min (thanks to previous cleaning video from you). >>> Vacuum >>> distilled water with of wetting agent (few drops per liter), spreading with (SURPRISE! SURPRISE!!!) goat brush (cost few $$ from aliexperess) >> vacuum cleaner >> voila !!! Thank you for your videos. Good luck for you! Greetings from Russia! Yuri.
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear this! Thanks for sharing your methods.
@xtremegrooves
@xtremegrooves 3 жыл бұрын
With the prices of records today, Cleaning is the best option! New And Used record stores sometimes price used records in bad shape at the highest collector value. New records cost anywhere between $20 to $50! It's great that records are coming back. I bought a brand new (remastered) copy of Dark Side Of The Moon. Sounds great, But I have my original that my Uncle gave me back when I was 13. I'd rather listen to the original. I have babied it over the years. Posters and postcard stickers still in it. I've watched several videos on cleaning records. Including the "Wood Glue Application" I'm not exactly comfortable with that, but willing to try different methods. I've even seen the brush that attaches over the needle to clean records. That one scares me the most. I love your video! Haters gonna Hate. Blow them off like Dust In The Wind! (plug plug plug Kansas lol) I've recently started buying up records again. It's amazing what you can find in indoor flea markets.
@LouMontana-wc7nr
@LouMontana-wc7nr 3 жыл бұрын
Bill, you make me laugh kicking the crap out of the TROLL PEOPLE. Thank you.
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@bullobca
@bullobca 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Bill. You need to just ignore the trolls and keep up the good work.
@robintaylor3633
@robintaylor3633 3 жыл бұрын
Seemed to work brilliantly don't worry about the trolls I've tried close to your method and seem to have some great results.
@SammeLagom
@SammeLagom 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid man!
@slam854
@slam854 3 жыл бұрын
Bill, I enjoyed your video. Many good tips and techniques. I am thinking the Record Doctor and a Spin Clean along with your brushes may make a very effective result. Personally, when I got back into vinyl, I purchased a VPI 16.5. They were affordable then. VPI does a nice job but your style cleans deeper.
@joosy_joose
@joosy_joose 3 жыл бұрын
haha your defensiveness makes this video that much better. But honestly, great video
@ronnie5129
@ronnie5129 2 жыл бұрын
Bill, I am not here to bust your Bubble, But during the Covid deal, i went through all of my records and playing them, some needed cleaning, what i did was take a microfiber cloth and diluted some Dawn dishwashing soap, 1 part Dawn, to 9 parts Distilled water, and in a circular motion, wash the record, and then rinse it very well , then with a microfiber cloth dry it , it works very well,
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 2 жыл бұрын
No bubbles busted here. What works for you is good information. I'm still doing what I do in this video and I'm happy with it, but sharing your method may help someone else out as well. Thanks for the input!
@Curling_Rack
@Curling_Rack 3 жыл бұрын
i also use a junk turntable as my cleaning station. i cut the tonearms off, so it's not in the way lol. i use auto detailing glass MF Towels , a spray bottle with a mix of 3 tablespoons of alcohol, dish soap, and water. rinse afterwards
@phelanlow9572
@phelanlow9572 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried ultrasonic record cleaner? And was it any better. Thanks. I'm trying to get back into records after years since stop listening to records because of the pops and noise.
@antoinep9733
@antoinep9733 4 жыл бұрын
This was funny as hell, death to trolls 😹. I use a big fat make-up brush in a sink of lukewarm water, with a splash of dishwashing detergent. Rinse off under the tap (I have a perspex/o-ring clamp to keep the labels dry), then on a flat surface I run a make-up pad soaked in distilled water with a splash of methylated spirit (rubbing alcohol in the USA?) around the grooves working in to the centre.
@robetclo2516
@robetclo2516 2 жыл бұрын
I use a vinylvac to clean my records and it works. Remember the worst enemies of your records are dust and static electricity,the latter attracts the dust. For those who claim that cleaning a record is a waste of time it's because they never did it. I used like you the spin clean, now I use the Vinylvac, I use a paint pad and it works, you should have seen the last one I used it was gray. So does it makes a used record brand new I would say no but the results would depend of the shape of the record. If it was insanely abused, played with a worn out stylus and dirty, well cleaning will get rid of most of the crackle and pop of it but the scratches are there to stay but if the record is only dirty now the cleaning process will get rid of most of the crackle and pop and also reduce the surface noise. Cleaning a brand new record is also a good idea because there is a release agent on that record left on the record resulting of the process. By the way never use tap water to clean your records only distilled water, tap water has lime in it and that will give more crackles and pops.
@carlitosfreetos
@carlitosfreetos 4 жыл бұрын
Love the vids!!! Keep trolling the trolls lol 😂
@rafaelgaming68
@rafaelgaming68 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@benjaminnavarro4774
@benjaminnavarro4774 3 жыл бұрын
great!! i clean my records whit soap and paint brush 1", after w40... yes w40! just little bit, of course and sounds came back great great and faboulose
@Paneeks1960
@Paneeks1960 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning Bill. Good to see you again. I remember your first record cleaning video. Seems like every record cleaning video gets lots of attention. It is a good way to reach out to a lot of people who have not seen your channel. I am in my tenth year in the VC and I want to say that I have seen at least 150 cleaning videos since I started. I enjoyed them all. There is no need to write negative comments because {like you stated} everyone has their own way of doing it. Whatever works for them. I use a similar Technics turntable, D-4 brush and D-4 cleaner. Which I do not do that often. But I do keep them in somewhat of a dust/smoke free room. That is it. I really the Audio Advisor Record Doctor that you got at the estate sale. It does look like it does a solid job. Quick question: You find an original copy of the Modern Lovers debut album from 1976 at your local Goodwill. It is still in the plastic with the original hype and price sticker. But when you pull the album out it is annihilated beyond belief. Do you think there is hope for album? Do you think that you could get it close to its original playing state? Or would you just keep the jacket as an upgrade or future replacement copy? Always good to see you Bill~ Rob/Boston
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 4 жыл бұрын
Good day Rob! If the rare record is scratched, I would probably leave it behind. Dirt can be cleaned off. Glad that folks like you are hanging on to that old Discwasher. There'll never be another accessory like it!
@dixielandfarm
@dixielandfarm 4 жыл бұрын
People often tell me what I am doing is wrong in my record cleaning video - amazingly they are all chemists it seems, despite having 15 years’ experience with my method and never having an issue. Glad you were able to do before/after... I did that on my old videos but as downloads as to not get a copyright claim - something these critics don't seem to understand as well.
@jamesclough2638
@jamesclough2638 3 жыл бұрын
Cleaning made a big difference. I'm convinced.
@heathersowell1053
@heathersowell1053 3 жыл бұрын
Bill, what type of sleeves are you using? Thanks in advance!
@paulc5358
@paulc5358 3 жыл бұрын
Great shirt Zappa is the best!!! Nice video as well. What do you think of the T-M8 cleaning fluid? I have that stuff as well as L-art du son which I think works well too. I was looking for a round carbon microfiber brush or a round goat hair brush for a project I working on for cleaning records with my Pro-Ject VC-E clean machine any Ideas where I can get one? Thanks
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon, acoustic sounds, Music direct....shouldn't be too hard to find.
@mgildersleeve
@mgildersleeve 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir. You seem like somebody I could be good friends with. Entertaining and helpful video. My niece is getting into vinyl and I just went through a lot boxes of various quality at antique stores and compiled a lot of records to get her started. I pulled about 50+ 45s out of one set of boxes in the back room with bad storage conditions. Some of the 45s have paper stuck on the surface and in the grooves. And, some have black mold on the labels. I have them currently in a separate box. They were cheap to purchase. Other than, that, they seem fine. I’ll look at your videos to see if you have any that talk about cleaning with that condition. If not, could you please explain the process? I don’t need to filter through other video makers. I trust your micro photography considerations. I really enjoyed your video, and thank you.
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 3 жыл бұрын
I think I explain a lot in my videos already. Every record you purchased should be cleaned before you play it - if it has already been cleaned to get all the old dirt off, use a dry carbon fiber brush, that's all you need to get the dust off. Thanks for watching!
@jimb1463
@jimb1463 4 жыл бұрын
Love the light above your cleaner turntable! Where'd you get it? Ty
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 4 жыл бұрын
IKEA. They got lots of cool little lights to illuminate your audio if you let your imagination fly.
@ldeemou
@ldeemou Жыл бұрын
After watching your video and finding out about surfactants, I decided to look into it and identified Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, a very strong surfactant found in shampoos. Using a soft toothbrush and a specific shampoo, I tried my luck on a sacrificial vinyl, brushing gently with the grooves. The result was unexpectedly amazing! Thanks for your inspiration!! (P.S. If there is a real reason to avoid doing this, I would like to hear about it, ideally before I go through some of my precious LPs)
@MULTIVERSEGEETV
@MULTIVERSEGEETV 3 жыл бұрын
Phil Jackson is schooling you all on how to clean records! Leave coach alone he's legendary! I liked and subscribed Coach Jackson!
@davidschrimpf3209
@davidschrimpf3209 3 жыл бұрын
My method is mostly the same. I have a Record Doctor RCM and I use Disc Doctor Miracle Formula. I also use the same black pad (it's made by MOFI) to spread the liquid on the record. I use the Record Doctor when I apply the liquid, using no force on the brush, but rather just hold it in place while I slowly spin the record three times clockwise and then three time counterclockwise. If there's stubborn fingerprints then I will move the record back and forth in those areas to get an even deeper cleaning. With that MOFI brush, you don't have to use much force at all, the pad bristles really get down in the grooves. I let it sit for about a minute, then flip the record over and vacuum up the liquid, three times clockwise, three times counterclockwise. I find it gets out almost all the fingerprints and dirt. Fingerprints are the WORST. The oil from the prints holds the dirt on the record, causing most of the noise heard on old records. I've found this Disc Doctor liquid is really great at removing fingerprints. For 45s, I don't use the machine, but rather apply the liquid to both sides of the 45 and then with a lot of force, work it into the grooves of the record with a microfiber rag by holding the rag in place with thumb and forefinger of my right hand and rotating the 45 with the other hand. Then, I dry it with a different microfiber rag. This gets LOTS of dirt out of those old dirty 45s.
@slam854
@slam854 3 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a Spin Clean & a Record Doctor V. This will be for my noisy vinyl and used records. I am hoping to find some Sherly Scott Hammond organ recordings. They are all used so hope this works. I have a Paul Simon "Rhythm of the Saints" used from Paris. Some old classical recordings need help also. My thought is Spin Clean then Record Doctor while it is wet. Stay Clean, Bill.
@dondieu3154
@dondieu3154 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, Bill, I've been using the SpinClean for about a year or so now, and am very happy with it. However, you made a comment that got me thinking: I give my records a good cleaning, lay them on a towel and dry them with a micro-fiber towel, then put them in a rack and let a fan blow on them to dry them off. Never thought about the fan blowing dust back on them. Light-bulb moment. Thanks
@peterstoneham9871
@peterstoneham9871 Жыл бұрын
I clean my records using a high quality soap gel using a cloth to go both clockwise and anti clockwise. Next I semi dry my records using a clean cloth going around the record as before. I gently wash the soap off after three minutes and dry my records as much as possible using a quality towel and them leave to completely dry. This might have to be done once or twice especially on intros to records. No expensive machines required, just quality soap and cloths and warm water to flush clean
@georgeanastasopoulos5865
@georgeanastasopoulos5865 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am a subscriber. I am glad to hear another lecture, demonstration. I'm glad you told us about that small nail brush at 2:30+; and thanks for informing us about it. Fortunately, I had not used it yet. Okay, but at 5:30 I have an Audio Technica Record Cleaner Anti-static Brush AT6011a. By the way, at 9:55 that special wedge-shape brush is available on Amazon, in my case Canadian; called an RPM Mobile Fidelity Record Brush with Replacement Pad. Anyhow, I've become more aware about the record cleaning process; yes I like, and agree with what you have said about cleaning a record. Furthermore, I made my own record cleaning fluid, Phil! And saved a couple of dollars, 12:00. Why not make your own record cleaning liquid? I did. It contains the following ingredients: 1 cup water, 1 tablespoon dish washing liquid soap, 1 to 2 teaspoons 91% alcohol, and a couple of drops of rinsing agent mixed in a tall spray bottle. Is it possible for me clean a record at this stage to use a vacuum cleaner? By attaching a hose that has a brush around the nozzle; pointing the vacuum hose very close to the surface of the record? Is it safe for the record? I don't have one of those machines at 15:10, by the way. Furthermore, there is the case that if a record still has small pops, and clicks the problem is actually static electricity; that is mostly prevalent during the Winter season. Thank you for this thorough demonstration, explanation on record cleaning. Easily a thumbs up. One more thing; what is the phono cartridge installed on that wonderful, super hi fi turntable?
@pederbartoft9044
@pederbartoft9044 3 жыл бұрын
Great i will try your way, awsom. Will be back any after, see ya.
@littlenellie1028
@littlenellie1028 3 жыл бұрын
hi.. what record was it only has one side that was shown in this video.. BTW, great info.. :)
@Vince_Tasciotti
@Vince_Tasciotti 3 жыл бұрын
I remember a before and after video, it disappeared from the earth. I remember you holding up cards to show before cleaning and after cleaning. Also in the original classic Spin Clean video, there were before and after samples of music. So the trolls and nay sayers, don't know Bill.
@goboslament5535
@goboslament5535 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, an actual reasonable human on youtube. Nice to meet you, Bill.
@Vince_Tasciotti
@Vince_Tasciotti 3 жыл бұрын
You have asked for our own methods of record cleaning. I will offer what works for me, and not, say any uncomfortable phrases about what works for you and your techniques. For new store bought LPs, they take a bath in the Spin Clean. Distilled water and the Spin Clean fluid. Production artifacts gone, clean good sounding record. For very dirty records from the used bins in the local record store. Very soiled LPs are given a light stream of warmish water from the kitchen tap. This removes the superficial debris as well as wetting the playing surface. I then wet an older spin clean brush and apply a drop or two of dish soap. I work the soap into the grooves using the spin clean brush. At first the foam on the record is white, working the foam back into the groves it takes on a grayish hue, this is the more set in dust and dirt being removed from the record. A rinse off under the tap later and I then give the record a second stage cleaning in the Spin Clean. In the Spin Clean is the distilled water and Spin Clean fluid. The result in this two stage cleaning is a very clean record with a very quiet playing surface with next to no pops and clicks. I know people will cringe at the notion of subjecting an LP to tap water. My explanation is the water comes from the well in my front yard, it passes through a filter and is softened as well. It is clean, clear potable water. And all of my records see an anti static brush before the diamond stylus begins sending impulses to the preamp. I do have a well intended question for our host, Bill Camarata. In your experience, where does the enzymatic cleaning method take up from the standard store bought record cleaner fluids?
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 3 жыл бұрын
I only use the enzymatic cleaner on older, used records that have visible fingerprints or other liquids and solids imbedded into the grooves. Letting it sit for a while loosens the crap sitting deep in the grooves and the rest of the cleaning process permanently removes this residue, leaving me with a record that sounds closer to brand new (or better!). Thanks for your comments and your contribution to the discussion!
@bigredfox28
@bigredfox28 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video very informative could I ask what's the cleaning fluid called again also could I have more info on the brushes you used please
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 3 жыл бұрын
Here is the fluid and brushes I use in this video. If you can't find them at a local store, I've included the most handy online retailer to purchase them from. TM-8 Super Record Cleaning Fluid by Groovy Hi-Fi Solutions(acoustic sounds) Purest Audio Wooden Goat Hair Anti Static Brush (amazon) Mobile Fidelity Record Cleaning Brush (amazon)
@claudec2588
@claudec2588 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely sounds cleaner. But, :) I wonder if they are any cleaner than you would have achieved with The Spin Clean Record Cleaner, which would be much less labour intensive than the method you demonstrate here. My records had 30 years of dust, cigarette smoke and of course finger prints when I decided to get back into playing vinyl. I used the Spin Clean Record Cleaner. The difference was dramatic. But not perfect. I was hoping this video would answer the question, "Should I invest in a vacuum record cleaning system?" I appreciate this video but I think I'll have to keep looking.
@richardWilliams-zd6dd
@richardWilliams-zd6dd 2 ай бұрын
who cares about how you clean your records it works for you and I have my own way, don't listen to the trolls, what do they know, I love your content even though im in the UK
@LouMontana-wc7nr
@LouMontana-wc7nr 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought that Beck album in perfect original condition for two bucks at a second-hand store.
@dannysvinylrainbow4852
@dannysvinylrainbow4852 Жыл бұрын
I was using paper towels and the high percentage, alcohol and distilled water mixture, spray, and lately I noticed that my Records start to have that frying bacon crackling sound after cleaning them. I'm starting to think it's to paper towels. I like to use microfiber cloths as well, but when I have a whole box of cleaning to do, the microfiber cloth gets dirty real fast that's why I enjoy paper towels. It takes about a roll to clean a crate of Records. I just don't know if it's scratching them or not? Could paper towels cause damage?
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't keep a record in a paper sleeve, so I wouldn't wipe it with paper. You're asking for more dirt ion the grooves. Lint free cotton or microfiber towels if you must.
@dannysvinylrainbow4852
@dannysvinylrainbow4852 Жыл бұрын
@@BillsBoxOfSound thank you sir appreciate the advice
@garretts91
@garretts91 3 жыл бұрын
I subscribed because of this video. Everyone forms an opinion before they listen nowadays. Listen first, you may learn a thing to two.
@KBradAdams
@KBradAdams 3 жыл бұрын
Can you use compressed air first like you use on a keyboard ?
@christopherrobinwattsthoma6318
@christopherrobinwattsthoma6318 3 жыл бұрын
A simple question: How often should you wet wash (Pro-Ject) a record)?
@flashanddancedj
@flashanddancedj 3 жыл бұрын
New subscriber... I have tried a few things and still having issues... I am about to get a Knox Vinyl Record Cleaner Spin Kit... I have only used a Crosley Brush and solution it comes with and home made cleaning fluid with Distilled Water, Isopropalchol and jet dry... Still having tons of pops and crackles....
@TheViewFrom2A
@TheViewFrom2A 3 жыл бұрын
After cleaning do you have favorite inner sleeve to replace paper sleeves ? Diskeeper 2.0 antistatic, Big Fudge Premium Master Sleeves - 3-ply HDPE, Rice Paper Backing , Mobile Fidelity Master Sleeves ?
@anthonywiggins1013
@anthonywiggins1013 3 жыл бұрын
If you gently remove and replace the vinyl in the stock sleeves l don't think you can damage them,on the other hand,rough handling can have a sand paper like effect. Think about the vintage vinyl that are mint in their stock sleeves,if they were so easily damaged by them that would not be the case. Just sayin
@ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
@ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Thank you for sharing. I use a Nitty Gritty RCM. Just subbed.
@kerryblueher3147
@kerryblueher3147 Жыл бұрын
Having recently gotten back into my 60' and 70's vinyl, I've watched a number of cleaning vids. I would offer one suggestion.... HEAT. Don't underestimate the contribution warm fluids make in the cleaning process. I have experience in metal cleaning and treating with both spray and immersion systems. Gas fired heaters are ALWAYS part of the combination. My suggestion would be to heat (microwave) your fluids prior to use. I think you'll be convinced.
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound Жыл бұрын
Tried it once. Water was not very warm but the record instantly started warping - or shall I say melting. It think it would be cool if you made a video of your method. Thanks for the comment!
@agegroot5666
@agegroot5666 3 жыл бұрын
I use the knosti disco antistat with tap-water and some hand dishwashing detergent, after cleaning i dry the record by centrifugation use a attachment on a DRILL. It works fine but if you will give it a try................be carefull!!!
@redbarchetta9445
@redbarchetta9445 3 жыл бұрын
FTR is a good rule to live by...perhaps not obvious, but the T and the R stand for The Trolls. One guess what the F stands for. Thanks for making the vids. I'm getting ready to clean my own collection and am going to try a few different processes...including some of yours. Really curious to know if you're still a fan of the Record Dr after a year. Also curious to know if you've stopped using commercial cleansing agents in favour of one of the many "home made" versions. Stay Safe!
@jimb1463
@jimb1463 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill, New subscriber here. I like to watch as many videos as possible to get lots of information about vinyl. If the brush works for you then go for it! Don't worry about the naysayers. I bought myself a Spinclean system awhile ago. I've just finished cataloguing my own records and examining their cleanliness. When I get time I'm going to clean up my dirtiest records using the Spinclean. A question tho.... do you use any protective sleeves inner or outer on your records? If so what kind? Thanks, Jim
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 4 жыл бұрын
Inner favorites are Diskeeper from Sleeve City. Outers I like clear sleeves from Clearbags or Bags Unlimited.
@jimb1463
@jimb1463 4 жыл бұрын
@@BillsBoxOfSound thanks!
@audiobuff77
@audiobuff77 3 жыл бұрын
I use Dayton Audio record cleaner with a microfiber cleaning cloth. It works pretty well at removing dirt.
@redlioness6627
@redlioness6627 3 жыл бұрын
Man, what a t-shirt!
@kharnick
@kharnick 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@repairfreak
@repairfreak 2 жыл бұрын
First I rise my record with de-mineralized water on both sides using a label protector clam-shell device. Then I use a square painters pad brush with bristles that I was told are fine enough to get in the grooves. With brush suds up and record pre-wetted with demineralized water and a couple drops of dishwashing detergent which is not soap, but a detergent without any additives. I then move the brush in direction of grooves, then let the soap emulsify any grease and dirt on record surface for a few minutes. I then rise the record clean with more demineralized water. and then wipe dry with a microfiber cleaning rag always going in direction of grooves with the record down on a soft lint free/scratch free cloth on flat table surface. After waving the record dry a few times to get grooves completely dry, I will then install the disc on my turntable and use my audio quest carbon fiber brush while the turntable is spinning at 45rpm. With the brush perpendicular to the grooves I slide the brush slowly inward until the aluminum shell touches the spindle to discharge any static on the record surface through the conductive carbon fiber bristles. After this complete deep clean I put my record in a new non-static/non-scratching record sleeve. I will for most time there after, just simply use my carbon fiber brush again before and after play of each side and put back away in the sleeve. I always make sure my stylus is clean before playing, and clean stylus after each side of record play. This method has worked great for me. 🤗 Update: just found out that distilled water is most likely to be absolutely pure, not de-mineralized. So I will be switching over. 😀
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback!
@marcosv1618
@marcosv1618 Жыл бұрын
I clean with a cornering paint brush and dry with a lint free rag to reduce static
@Migkiller1971
@Migkiller1971 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't been on for awhile Bill. I'm glad you did a Before and After comparison on a shit record! People have ask me to do that on my videos but there is no way in hell I'm doing that on an original Blue note pressing. People don't realize that Pops and ticks comes from playing dirty records. The dirt and particles gets thermically imbedded in the grooves due to the insane heat caused by the diamond on the vinyl groove walls. Nope! about me doing more video? Meh.
@trevorbraden5448
@trevorbraden5448 3 жыл бұрын
I'm telling you good ole windex cleans just fine...... been doing it for years and never had a problem..... haters will hate no matter what method you use
@LEDFOOT49
@LEDFOOT49 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I think you do lots of things right . But the best part is when you said that the Ultrasonic machine didn't get the finger prints off. And that for me was what I was looking to hear! because I can clean my records manually Kinda like you. And I have cleaned so many records manually already and got really good at it. they turn out very clean and shiny. My last resort is to try an Ultrasonic machine but I wasn't going to forge out $1000 dollars or more just to come to the same conclusion that you can only do so much and you can't clean a record and eliminate every single pop! a record that was abused has no solution it's abused and there's nothing any machine can do to make it sound like new again! Thanks for your honesty.
@joelfrombethlehem
@joelfrombethlehem 5 ай бұрын
De-ionized water then compressed air worked fine for me way back when the vinyl LP was superior to cassettes and 8-track cartridges. Changing styli every once a year is a must and changing the cartridge every 3 years was a great practice. Then CDs proved to be superior to LP and that was 1986 and I never looked back with 2024 only less than 8 hours away.
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 5 ай бұрын
Well, I still buy some CDs but vinyl still sounds best to me. YMMV.
@tabithamaydavis5792
@tabithamaydavis5792 Жыл бұрын
No! Every one “knows” you first have to rub sweeping compound on your records. You know, like when you sweep the garage or shop floor. The dirt and dust gets carried away with the sweeping compound. Same thing for records. Take a clean paint brush and smear sweeping compound around the record. Make sure you get it in the grooves. Then use a second clean brush to sweep-up the record. Here is the key. Next take a shop vac, any old one will do, and vacuum the record making sure you get in the grooves. Rinse in the sink, dry with a dish towel and KABOOM, you now have a clean record. It might sound just a little different, but for sure it’s shop-floor clean. Give it a try! 😉
@ichbin4122
@ichbin4122 3 жыл бұрын
5 May 2020 - a year on...I lost the weight for the AKAY turntable, meaning I can't really use it or it'll
@PetesCDVinylWorld
@PetesCDVinylWorld 4 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel, cool vid
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@nicholasgarratt5646
@nicholasgarratt5646 3 ай бұрын
I don't use much cleaning fluid. I have found a good way is to spray a couple of times into a make up brush. I then use that to go over the record. I then use a 2nd brush on the record and then use microfibre cloth. I leave it for 15 minutes before playing with no audio on. Sometimes it might shift some dirt onto the stylus so I always check it after the first play. I then play it with audio the 2nd time.
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