Is "Japa" the solution to Nigeria's economic struggles?

[@siphamandlamkhize9766]

African leaders should be ashamed of themselves , look at all these intelligent youth talking ... This makes me so angry. Watching from South Africa

[@basseybassey6834]

Yet none of them would get elected into even their local parliament because they do not have 'structures'. Rather, you have old thieves who sleep during the debates, only to wake up and sign for 'sitting allowance'!

[@borngreat-4-life930]

What are Nigerians doing about it?

[@trollthetruthand5458]

They are not that intelligent because they lack common sense and integrity. They are trying to escape from the same things other people had to fight for and change, they don't want to change anything in their country but take advantage of others hard work.

[@veeama4982]

​@borngreat-4-life930 they are protesting and getting jailed or killed or witchhunted while at it. If that's not happening, they are too divided a people to realize that unity is the biggest threat to a govt that's sworn to destroy its citizens

[@notjustbaggish]

@@borngreat-4-life930 Some are working really hard. Especially the Biafrans who decided that the best way is to divide first so that the tribal issue can be solved first, then build from there. But sadly, a lot are afraid and docile. Someone said that it's because of the lessons of the civil war in 1967 to 1970, that people are afraid to confront the wicked system, even violently.

[@princeaghamiogie7154]

Am a 63 years old Nigerian residing in New York. When Nigeria was good my uncles who went to study i England or US came back to Nigeria immediately after their education. Then, they get job right away and they are given a car and a flat. Today, who will leave a well paying job and go back to Nigeria and be receiving peanut salary. If Nigeria is good, safe and pay good salaries people will look forward to going back home.

[@emmanuelifejieme3057]

Thank a lot for this

[@kadiriolaniyi4603]

The questions is what are most of you helping to improve Nigeria? How many investment do you have in Nigeria? Or do you intend to die there? You are already 63 means you are not stable there

[@thecatalyst1762]

direct this question to the government, there are people being kidnapped in the countries capital@@kadiriolaniyi4603

[@okeziechristopher9479]

You can't invest in a country runed by crook... 😡😡😡

[@kadiriolaniyi4603]

Here we go. We always say we can't invest in a country ruled by crooks. Then years to come crooks continue to rule us when we allow them to rule us by voting for our tribes and religious leaders and saying they are the most competent. Then we expect them to work equally. That man is 63 and he still expects the government to give him a car and a job waiting for him. When he has been abroad for long and not thinking of investing in the country to create jobs for the younger generation when many Nigerians are also coming back to invest.

[@dekev7503]

I’m an Engineer myself, 3 of my siblings are Drs ( my parents had 4 kids), All of us are either in Europe or America. Apart from the fact that what I earn in a month after tax as an Engineer here in Germany is more than 20x what I would have been earning as an Engineer in Nigeria, the fact that one can live a life without fear of violent crime and trust in the system working when they need it, is enough reason for any sane person to go without looking back.

[@bookinsights1092]

Well, Europe and the USA are going to be run by the far right parties who are anti-black and anti-muslim so things will get worse for you.

[@dekev7503]

@@michaelniran You’re projecting your experience on others. Yes you pay heavy taxes here but you actually see where your taxes go and you’re sure that the system works when you need it to. In many places in Nigeria, the insecurity is unmanageable, you’re more likely to be robbed by the police than have them protect you from robbers. Yes you can make money faster in Nigeria but with the unstable government and economy, whatever you make could just as easily amount to nothing. I have friends and colleagues who built estates in Nigeria with loans that they took here, only for them to watch how the value of the naira went down the toilet. Now the rent that they collect from the homes cannot even cover the loan payments. The same goes for many other businesses that are struggling with hyperinflation. As for making money here, your brother clearly doesn’t know his way around. All he needs to do is hire a professional tax consultant ( it might seem expensive at 1st but it significantly pays off), there are many ways you can go about avoiding taxes and getting tax benefits. And also if you earn in strong currency, and better still, have a solid passport, you can invest in other countries with less tax burdens than where you are, eg, Romania, Portugal, etc.

[@realmaureenoyakhilome]

@@dekev7503 I live in Germany and even the Germans are complaining about the economy. I think you are talking about exchange rate not the exact pay cos of the progressive tax system and socialist economy. We are all educated in my home and with strong passports but we do not feel confident in investing in lands that aren’t ours because despite how hard some of us have worked , we’ve realised we’ll never be accepted here. There are wealthy people in Nigeria who didn’t steal, I don’t need to be insane to want to live in Nigeria. I am definitely going back, at most another African country but here… hell no. 😂😂😂 but I’m happy for you that you are having a blast. And No… white people do nothing to me as someone said in the video. 😂😂😂

[@dekev7503]

​@@realmaureenoyakhilome "I think you are talking about exchange rate not the exact pay cos of the progressive tax system and socialist economy" I'm talking about the pay. I completed my Masters degree here and the 1st job that I got, fresh from school paid about 101k euros a year in total compensation (this amounted to around 4,500 euros a month after tax). Granted that's a relatively high salary (due in part to the size of my company and how hard it is to find talent in my exact niche ). Under 2500 euros, I could easily cover my car payments, food, entertainment and rent (and I live in hamburg where it's a bit pricier than other places like Bremen or Dresden). I also do freelance remote gigs from other companies based in other countries ( I make sure that these companies are not affiliated with Germany in order to avoid being placed on tax class vI by finanzamt for doing multiple jobs😅😅) The average Engineer in Nigeria would typically be unemployed and If he's lucky to get a job, It's not likely to be an engineering job as there's almost no Engineering sector in the country. A few of my classmates that got Engineering related jobs after our bachelors and none of them paid up to 300,000 naira, a month (less than 200 euros). Granted, In recent years there has been a rise in the tech sector but that is primarily due to IT staff who work remotely for international companies, and many of them eventually leave after getting sponsored by the company that they work for.

[@Rumbu_P]

That your last point is really worth highlighting, i was shocked myself when a doctor who is supposed to be enlightened said black people want to work with white people, tf! A good system yes!​@resilient_nomad

[@martintameh429]

I’m a doctor, practiced for 9 years, supervised 6 departments and nothing to show in terms of remuneration. I have worked 17 days stretch, worked and stayed at the hospital for 3 months straight bcs of Covid, still there’s nothing. I moved to the uk to study for my masters, I worked a year as a student and I can categorically tell you I’ve achieved in one year as a student much more than my 9 professional years as a doctor in Lagos Nigeria.

[@DWThe77Percent]

So what do you think needs to be done so youth in Nigeria can have the same success you had in the UK?

[@rbggwapo]

UK IS FAR MORE ADVANCED DUE TO GENOCIDAL ANTI-AFRICAN INDUSTRIALIZATION. NO REAL USE IN COMPARING THE COUNTRIES LOL

[@yukae2878]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽

[@levelsuponlevels]

Answer please Doc, wettin da way?

[@martintameh429]

@@DWThe77Percent The success you talk of is attributed to the structure here, ‘work and reward’, cause and effect. They say the youths are the bedrock of every society, they represent growth, prosperity and vitality. Ignoring the impact of youth is equivalent to ignoring the growth of such a society. Nigeria lost its way long ago and it’s almost impossible to regain itself with each cycle of government that comes into power. The best government I have ever witnessed in the country was that of late Yar’Adua, though it was cut short but the dream was evident. The disease of bad leadership has transcended to every corner of the country, in our offices, schools , etc , threatening to extinguish the hope for a better tomorrow. ‘Who come dis life come suffer’ the youths have to make a way for themselves hence the japa syndrome. We need the possibility for a change in the leadership structure of Nigeria, where roles are defined for every citizen not assigned to just office holders. The first phase of the possibility for change begins with ACCOUNTABILITY, when we have this then we can dream again.

[@elloco-q3h]

Samson Olatunde spoke the #1 truth; "hope is not a strategy". U seriously cannot be living on hope for 50-60 yrs anywhere in the world. Praying, fasting & hoping for a miracle to happen is a complete waste of one's life. Nigeria is a FAILED state. It CANNOT move 4ward cos there simply is no plan to move it 4ward.

[@agnescraig2912]

Spot on thank you.

[@Johnsonsetwithjustinthem-hm5nq]

Nigeria is not a failed state but you have failed because you can't use your brain to create a job.

[@carcher3279]

But the fleeing African runners have HOPE in the countries that they are running towards that upon arrival will be found a receptive and fertile atmosphere for them to advance/succeed once they arrive here and so ironically they are still employing hope as their strategy. Just as everyone who crosses the road has blind faith that the red traffic light will cause the vehicles to stop... otherwise why step off of the pavement into the road?

[@israelc.8586]

@@carcher3279 You are missing the point. The statistics and percentages of thriving in Western countries are way higher than Nigeria. The odds are almost always in your favour abroad when you have a concrete plan and stick to it. The case of Nigeria is the opposite. You can have your plan, credentials and strategy, but your odds of succeeding will still be low. Abroad you can employ your strategy and almost get the results you planned for.

[@Bea-Dubya]

Nigeria is a failed state. You flee your country to countries that are established because you don’t have the skills, courage, fortitude to make a homeland for yourself. Then you want to wave your flag around the world as if you love your country. Please spare yourself. YOU DO NOT LOVE YOUR HOMELAND. That’s why you flee to other countries.

[@festusigiewe2914]

The 'Japa' crowd did not say they were trying to solve a national malaise but merely addressing a personal crisis. Ultimately, it comes down to a private decision about how best to achieve a more fulfiling life for themselves and dependents.

[@adrianm-he6he]

@festusigiewe2914. Exactly. They talked only of their personal inconveniences and nothing of the needs of the rural villager, or the people struggling to make the country better. Only themselves..just like the politicians.

[@Mike_tradehub]

That’s pure selfishness….I’d be married to polish in few months and Lagos would be our home…There’s no place on earth to have freedom other than Nigeria and there is no place with cheap living other than Nigeria…periodddt

[@festusigiewe2914]

@@adrianm-he6he It is cheering to know there are still people like you who grab a hoe & cutlass every weekend to help out on the farms and also join regular meetings at the village square in the planning & mobilization of the people for a better future for Nigeria. What a patriot, thank you ao much !!

[@festusigiewe2914]

@@Mike_tradehub I'm very proud of you, Mike. You'll be married probably to an old Polish lady you met on the internet, in spite of the millions of eligible Nigerian women. You've also chosen to live in Lagos because it's cheaper than strange, cold Poland (I suppose); big sacrifices for the fatherland. You'll also be making love to your wife in Lagos. All this & more, not for your personal choice and benefit but for the greater glory of our dear country. AMEN BROTHER, I'LL SAY !!!

[@masterlightjames950]

Selfishness and greed are the hallmarks of their character.

[@georgeogbonna8821]

That lady that said she “Rapa,d” the same one that claimed she was born abroad and returned when she was 20, I believe still gets benefit from the country where she was born. she definitely is not from a poor family and may have political connections so she can’t compare herself with regular suffering Nigerians.

[@onyinwa8330]

Thanks. God bless you. You are absolutely right. And that's what it is

[@chiomanwonye5420]

She still has the chance to live the rest of her life over there. Give her respect. The people who built the nations were are running to built it on blood tears and sacrifice. People who change things understand sacrifice. We don’t understand that, and it reflects on our government. The government reflects the people’s values.

[@moltenmagma88]

Don't mind her

[@AlbertNTipster]

@@chiomanwonye5420 fact is, when it gets too tough in Nigeria, she can always leave whenever she wants. You can't possible say the same for the average Nigerian.

[@NurseSnow2U]

@@user-lk3it4sh7w yeah, I work in the Public Health sector as an RN and there is no such thing.

[@netteundgut]

The youth in Nigeria have to understand one thing, "POWER IS NOT GIVING, BUT RATHER, POWER IS TO BE TAKEN BY FORCE" stop waiting for the old and uneducated men in power to give you power, which will never happen. Take it by whatever means and let's build Nigeria again.

[@bobtechng1464]

Thank you for this comment. The truth is that we are all cowards here, we are afraid and weak. Too scared to fight for our future, running away to enjoy the hard work of others who fought to build their country. We only care about money and are never contented with what we have.

[@ebubechiibegbula5968]

You are in directly advocating to take power how???

[@ebubechiibegbula5968]

​@@bobtechng1464i don't agree...

[@MostHigh-j3m]

​@@ebubechiibegbula5968as you are leaving Africa guess who is coming to Africa 1 Million Europeans illegal immigrants are in South Africa the western nations are falling apart and they are leaving America and Europe so I don't see why your making it easy for them by leaving

[@ebubechiibegbula5968]

@@MostHigh-j3m please where are you getting your data from....

[@JimmyKlien1]

In my opinion, Nigeria has moved from a communal mindset to individualistic mindset which was started off by the old folks. Now we the Millennials and GenZ have adopted this same mindset and taken it to the extreme.

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

The mindset of a typical Nigerian is that anyone in a position of authority is expected to steal public funds or otherwise misuse their privilege. This is one of the causes of the shift towards individualism.

[@MostHigh-j3m]

​@@abdul-kabiralegbe5660it's the Internet and western influence .

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

@@MostHigh-j3m The attitude I mentioned started long before the Internet.

[@agnescraig2912]

Always blame the West as if the locals based on Religion and tribalism in Nigeria cannot distinguish between right and wrong.@@MostHigh-j3m

[@jakejakobz]

Great point

[@fridaybenard8806]

Nigeria is country where everyone knows the questions but few know the solutions.

[@olufunkeidowu9931]

Correct! Everyone is sharp to point out problems but can no profer or actualized one single solution. We refuse to deep think and fight for certain values to take our country to the next higher level.

[@bobmajorshow1013]

Even with the solution, how will it be apply ?

[@Keveen]

@@bobmajorshow1013No mind am

[@AndreMazi-du3ck]

The solution is to divide the country, the Northern leaders in Abuja cannot run the country well, it's tribalism So let each tribe go they way Less people at the dinning table, not enough jobs and food to go around and you have corrupt leaders that are not being checked or forced to do they work

[@7yqgevdj6]

Last yr was suprised March 2023 you did nothing & sept 6 I was expecting niigerians get In the streets nooo & even March i saw the rallies you guys held, last week you guys been rallying nothing signifies 230million.That same time us in kenya were in the streets for every week for month plus& folk died.Mohbads procession packed more people that all these rallies you guys holding to get at your govt. Poor priorities you celebrate mediocr!ty,the crim!nals & is only nigerians who think going to other countries impregnate chics is an achievement, you don't like the truth& has made you guys allergic to accountability,-you only want celebrate good stuff but when bad stuff com3s you like you hate us we take all their gals,not alll of us is baddd, worse yall comfy making noise in other folk countries but at home yall quiet need be opp,l If you see other africans in foreign land we quiet,,i will make all the noise I want at home, you don't remind one another when we abroad we need behave instead most of you guys pretend it don't happen.you guys have a lot of work to do repair your image & pp. Is only niigerians who will try sneak drugs in a Muslim c0untry where y0u get death penalty but can't fight f0r their c0untry Mentality is wrong placees.Is like you guys checked out long time ago & prefer be c0untries you not wanted than be in niigeria

[@mrmike1582]

it is a shame that some Nigerians still live in a bubble and lie to themselves about the situation in Nigeria

[@egbukwuprince]

This is the reason why we vote the same crooks every four years.

[@ck-sl3kt]

@@egbukwuprince No we voted crooks because we voted along tribal and religious line! No solution to that because there is tribal competition which many tribes created out of stupidity. I bet the last election you supported a candidate from your tribe and claim he is the most competent. Be honest! People will vote their tribe or their religion and claim they are the most competent hence the problem continues.

[@mrmike1582]

@@ck-sl3kt How can you be so certain he or she voted along tribal lines,or are you confessing?

[@ck-sl3kt]

@@mrmike1582 Anyone that can read between the line knows that is the usual rhetoric from the exact people that are destroying naija. They will always claim that wrong politicians or crooks were voted in power. Check those people well and you will realise they only meant a tribe different from their own is voted to power! Anyone that meant well for naija knows that politician is NOT the problem of naija but CITIZENS!

[@realmaureenoyakhilome]

@@mrmike1582but that is what we do. Religion and tribalism holds us down.

[@bolaa3915]

11:58 Doctors took an oath to save lives but they have a right to a good standard of living!!!! This American woman needs to keep quiet😳😳

[@agnescraig2912]

The American lady had an agenda and that was pointing out Racism. She interrupted the other guest instead of allowing the guest to speak. About being black in America as opposed to Africa, when I lived in Nigeria they called each other "The black One" This would be pilloried in America and the troll armies would threatening you with death. Nigerian preferred to work for foreign companies because they get a wage at the end of the month however small. Whereas local companies which provided these services did not pay salaries for three months plus. Have personally intervened in several cases until I was told that I was taken for a ride which I was. Change in mindset is very hard so in time keeping in Nigeria.

[@agnescraig2912]

Shld read so is time keeping and not "so in time"

[@roselineekpenyong3442]

She's just privileged and sentimental😅

[@kondoyt3213]

I can smell her privileged life through the screen. They should ask her how she got the job that she earned her first salary in Nigeria.

[@daniella8400]

She not American! She has an accent

[@krayaksama1662]

Love these debates! I think that life is too short to stay somewhere you don't thrive.

[@DWThe77Percent]

We're happy you enjoyed it!!

[@maryam_oni]

Well said 👏🏾

[@jemmy24]

God bless You

[@robbycarson4999]

All phony African leaders need understand n 2 stop with this nonsense of 'Patriotism without representation"! They're constantly stuffing their faces with public funds n all the country's natural resources, while the ppl they're purportedly serving r languishing in poverty. But at the same time, they expect them to love their country n not abandon ship 4 greener pastures!! Hypocrisy of the highest order!!

[@georgeappiah8314]

WHEN ARE YOU COMING TO GHANA@@DWThe77Percent

[@ebubechiibegbula5968]

I love that comment , "hope is not a strategy"... it's never being

[@okosichinedu]

From all the points made here, I heard no one talking about the future of our kids, I grew up in a family of six with so many struggles and challenges especially if your parents are civil servants, I still see my colleagues marry and continue in that circle of struggle. I don't want that for my kids. My parents worked hard and still struggled. Nigeria is a country that gives you very few opportunities, a country of chance, luck or grace. I long for a place where the system is working. where I will see the dividends of my hard work and where my children will be exposed to many opportunities to choose from and be happy.

[@zikomadikizela121]

They flocking everywhere in the world not just EU but japa is not the answer my brothers and sisters. We are also frustrated by our South African government but we fight back. It’s not easy but it has fruits. Stay and fight✊🏽…if you really have to leave come back when you’ve earned the necessary skills to progress the country. We need Africans in Africa to fix this whole mess🤞🏽

[@Peggyg13]

I love your comment. It makes sense to leave, acquire the relevant skillset and come back to engage that knowledge and skill for the benefit of the country. Even with the challenges, I think Nigerians are very nationalist , we usually don’t like settling down completely in foreign countries. Once we get the institutional issues right and the engine of our economy running, I think the result will be transformative. The biggest problem has always been our political class. A new crop of young, passionate, patriotic Nigerians need to takeover. It won’t be easy to displaced the old guard but it’s doable. Young people are beginning to develop the political consciousnesses and now they have realized how consequential political apathy is .

[@Okoragyak]

@@Peggyg13 I do not think it is just about the "politically concious" youth "displacing" the so-called political class, because that wil be making the assumption that the youth who would take over would be absolutely incorruptible and therefore do a better job. The one thing I have always believed Africans (both the young and old) can do for Africa to turn things around for the better, is mindset re-orientation or a re-think of our thinking. We always underestimate our abilities and worth in Africa, but perform wonders ouside the shores of Africa. One might argue that this is the case because the structures in those places where we end up are more enabling than our own. Well, this might be true to some extent, but then, the question that arises yet again, is, wasn't it human beings like ourselves that put those workable structures in place? If the answer is a "yes", then we have to go back to that same mindset problem that requires fixing. Long live Africa!!

[@ichooseviolence2532]

They have literally flocked to Kenya in the past few years now.

[@Peggyg13]

@@ichooseviolence2532 before you know it they will become MP’s and President. Just like the Chinese as well who are flocking and taking over and Kenya economy is under their massive grip. I don’t know if you speak about Non/black peoples in such derogatory manner.

[@Peggyg13]

@@Okoragyak I absolutely know and believe that the younger crop are a lot more moral, ethical, revolutionary, nationalist, than the old guards. The old guards have been their since the 1960’s they simply don’t want to leave. We have seen and learn from their mistakes. This issue is not peculiar to Nigeria alone. Sit tight syndrome is an African issue. Young people are ready to be the change they preach. The old guard don’t want this. They know quite already once the young ones come in, they will uproot the structure, bury it and build a new one on the corpse of the old. So my friend I submit to you, we young Nigerians are able, ready, highly motivate to take over and build our country into what it use to be. The mindset, will power and all the necessary condiment for a political revolution is alive and well.

[@tosin5346]

US visa officer just watching those that said they don’t want to come back

[@tmajec]

😂

[@rwenji22]

😂

[@adedunnispace]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@yukae2878]

Do you blame them, I don't!

[@eusebio_9]

Their mind go dey 😂

[@ted.n9609]

Nigeria has the danger of losing its brightest and most talented citizens leaving the Country. We here in the US feel the leaders in Nigeria do not realize the damage they are inflicting to the country due to their bad leadership and bad government.

[@notjustbaggish]

@aisombro9864 How can they, when they can easily travel abroad for a simple haircut?

[@davidmatthew8356]

Nigerian leaders don't care because there whole families are overseas. Nigeria is like proverbial community dog.

[@agnescraig2912]

The one thing none of these bright and philosophical individuals mentioned is the growing population explosion in Nigeria. Everyday in Lagos alone 1000 registered births everyday and umpteen more unregistered. Since independence from Britain at 45 to 50 million it stands at 280 million+. Poverty, lack of education, healthcare, jobs and depleting earth's resources like water and bad sanitation all due to irresponsible parents having to many mouths to feed. This also impacts Climate change. Living in Nigeria was depressing as no one ever addressed the issue of over population.

[@wisemikky]

I'd rather deal with racism than tribalism. What BS is that privileged lady talking about? Speak the truth guys

[@salmabello1826]

Did they tell you they care?😢

[@fauzeeyajamal9339]

Those who want to leave are thinking about themselves because the politicians have been thinking about themselves too. Politicians cannot think about enriching themselves while expecting ordinary citizens to love their country and stay.

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

Exactly.

[@agnescraig2912]

Yes it a No Brainer but Money and Power have blinded them.

[@v4vndta911]

This thing that you have written here...please send you akant number, lemme transfer you some multiples of thousands of naira, because you have just spoken a BIG truth. A country where you see leaders interested in only themselves, what are the followers supposed to learn? Patriotism???? NO! You will learn to be interested in only yourself!!!! Cause and effect! Simple! Na only N2K I go send o, na still multiples of thousands sha...😅😅

[@paulenweliku4264]

Very well spoken guests and a brilliant host as well.. Really anchored the show really well..kudos 👏

[@DWThe77Percent]

Thanks for watching!

[@Bmore201]

Hello, I'm an African American and I just came across your channel. I love the discussions. As Black people we must address the issues facing the African race. I met a brother here from Nigeria and he told me he was a surgeon in Nigeria, he came to America and got a job at a fast food restraunt here in America, he told me he made more money cooking burgers in America than a surgeon in Nigeria, I don't know if he was telling the truth but people migrate and move to greener pastuers that is what they do, In America African Americans migrated from the Southern parts of America to the North for opportunities.

[@a1moro293]

He’s absolutely telling the truth 💯

[@kandisphere8828]

He told you the truth.

[@hillsongcovers2173]

My dear, that is the brutal truth. Lots of professionals in Nigeria earn peanuts as salary

[@lonewulfmo9128]

Dear black brother. Please don't stress yourself thinking about problems here in Africa. Don't bite off this one, you can not chew. Just be successful, happy and an upright in America. The problem here will resolve once the old farts naturally die away. You heard me correctly, the old farts. Most of the old people here holding power do not give a shit about anythings else but themselves n maybe their rich kids. They remain in power tiull they are 100 years old and don't care about the youth. It's a culture thing.

[@mazivictorokezie1954]

He told you the truth. Life in Nigeria is like hell. The politicians destroyed everything. The young people have no future. The enabling environment is not there. No electricity. No good roads network, nothing. Just nothing. I swear. The economy is nothing to write home about. Life is just hell. You can not sleep with electricity 24 hours. I live overseas now and I can tell the hell Nigeria is

[@pkom6418]

I'm Ghanaian but it seems to me that many Nigerians forget they are living in the biggest economy in Africa. They need be be more entrepreneurial and put pressure on their government to perform (unfortunately tribalism is very big in Nigeria). Nigeria is the country in Africa with the best potential, however, if you don't put pressure on your government, nothing will change.

[@bisiyahaya6142]

Exactly 💯. They are putting the responsibility of change on other people instead of it starting with them.

[@onyekaumeagudosi5674]

If you put pressure on the government you may not be alive again 🇳🇬

[@pkom6418]

@@onyekaumeagudosi5674 If you are already poor and have nothing to lose, it will make sense to challenge the government and potentially risk dying. The Western countries you see today, people had to shed their blood for their nations to be developed.

[@chidozieugwu-oju7069]

​​@@pkom6418 not many people are willing to shed their blood for a country that is not ready for her own change.

[@obiflex]

​@@pkom6418Tell me one country in the world that ever became developed because the citizens at the grassroots fought for development rather than the leaders becoming transformational leaders. It's the job of rulers to develop their country. Individuals only have a duty to develop themselves and if japa becomes the only means to do so, so be it

[@mai2akitas]

I hate when people say that a basic citizen should have a love for country to make them stay somewhere. No, it should be the people in government to have for the love of country to pull their country up from the nonsense. That's keeping their people down because the west is suppressing them.

[@xfactor6099]

You also have your own part to play as well.

[@timiscold]

@@xfactor6099explain his part. What part does he have to play? This is a tactic to shame people who leave to get a better life for their family. Most people are ignorant to why the country is constantly declining. The leaders have sold their rights to the western world. Go do some research you’ll see.

[@mai2akitas]

Please explain....

[@xfactor6099]

@@mai2akitas by been an examplirary leader in your sphear of influence. Open the laws of the land, do not cheat people when in a leadership position, raise your kids right, do not pay bribes...

[@adrianm-he6he]

@mai2akitas. People who have these luxuries died and shed blood to have them. If you can’t do that, you don’t deserve it.

[@GiselleX]

I heard Nigerians using the word japa and while searching for the meaning of this word, I came across this video. I am watching from the US and enjoyed this discussion.

[@HonestLeighSpeaking]

As an African-American, I found this discussion very interesting. Keep producing good content! And know that no one situation is perfect and yet some situations have to be left until they can be fixed!

[@realmaureenoyakhilome]

The lady who said her friends bought houses in 3 years have been lied to. First you need to get the right job and build a credit score or even have a partner to join incomes to do all of that. Integrating in another land takes time for most people and it varies from country to country so if everyone she knows bought houses, some of them have clearly lied but hopefully she’ll travel out and see things for herself .

[@adrianm-he6he]

@resilient_nomad. How can someone feel entitled to a house in 3 years when they can never provide the same benefit to others who work harder?

[@notjustbaggish]

@@adrianm-he6he Not everybody are there for the houses though. To tell you the truth, it will feel like a stretch to majority of prospecting emigrants. The thing is, even basic stuff, people are struggling to get it in Nigeria.

[@agunaboumuzocha7872]

You don't know what you are saying. Yes, you can buy a house in three years of landing abroad. People I know personally have done it.

[@Jen-Inspired]

@@agunaboumuzocha7872I don’t know what they’re saying. I know someone who did it in 3yrs too. Canada to be precise

[@obinnaifem8181]

What are you smoking buddy? People even buy houses after 6 months of landing in Canada. I have friends who came as landed immigrants and got lucky with jobs due to their education and skills developed in Nigeria, and went ahead to buy houses within the first year of their arrival.

[@notjustbaggish]

If I was a corrupt government official, I would be very grateful to that american-nigerian lady, that Lagos advisor and others there with their mentality. It means that I don't need to live up to my responsibilities and keep embezzling public funds. If people try to protest, people like that would defend me pointing their fingers at the helpless public, to tell them they need to work harder and be more patriotic. Hahaha. Nigerian politicians and institutions, you guys are having a holiday! But before the throne of judgement, better be ready.

[@talk2minie]

Exactly 💯

[@agnescraig2912]

It is people like the American Nigerian who glorify and validate corruption and bribery in Nigeria calling it unpatriotic. Lived in Nigeria and every time I landed at immigration you have to put money in your passport before it is stamped. When leaving Nigeria I didn't because had a British passport and no Nigerian connection. All Nigerian foreign and local passport holders had to pay. Have seen it with my own eyes. Surely this does not happen in America UK or Europe Australia New Zealand Canada.

[@DavidOdusanya134.]

Many nigerians don't wish to leave their nation. But the painful reality is that the government doesn't care, I'd be frustrated too . APC is sinking Nigeria deeper than the Titanic. 21st century no electricity I slept in darkness yesterday. I still love my country 😂. With all the money we have and manpower we should be competing with the world

[@charleeshaw7423]

It’s because you all are lazy and full of excuses and when you get to these countries you have a nerve to talk about the native black people that provided the opportunities you have

[@charleeshaw7423]

Because you are lazy

[@DavidOdusanya134.]

​@@charleeshaw7423ur mad and daft. Do u know the situation in Nigeria and how bad it is? Multinationals are leaving we have no infrastructure. The government doesn't care about citizens to make life comfortable for them

[@JohnFekoloid]

Nigeria's problem is that the country itself has no purpose after independence. The world does not expect anything from Nigeria. That's why the government doesn't need the people and hence doesn't make life better for the people. In fact if all the people japa or die and just leave empty land, the government will continue selling crude oil and resources, and feeding fat. Colonial masters came here exploit our agricultural resources. But now they can get them from somewhere else without trouble. In China, their government NEEDS the people, to work in factories and make cheap goods for exportation to bring about foreign exchange.. Russia needs its people to spread communist propaganda, spy on the west and finally conquer capitalism. America needs its people to spread capitalism and their so called freedom, invent scientific gadgets and keep control of their nuclear warheads to police and bully the rest of the world. Nigeria? Nothing! We're not doing anything for anybody. Just eating and borning pikin and overpopulating everywhere.

[@jidebolarinwa697]

@@DavidOdusanya134. you are very lazy, when will you do something by yourself, everyday government this, government that.

[@rosettaufeli-iotmeanu3598]

I lived in the UK, established there. Decided to come back and really it takes God's grace and personal determination to live in Nigeria of the moment.

[@patrickiyioke2196]

Kudos to the interviewer for doing such a great job and putting all this together. On the topic of discussion, everyone was right from their individual perspective.

[@DWThe77Percent]

Thanks for watching!

[@LeoBlight]

The lady in green made some valid points. You can tell from living in the west she understands some of the issues people will face due to the fact of their skin color alone! I only wish that she could have spoke more on that and used it as an example on why they all should work together!

[@egbukwuprince]

She is priviledged and living in a bubble, one of the Big brother product and an influencer

[@LeoBlight]

@@egbukwuprince how may I ask is she privileged ?

[@egbukwuprince]

Q@@LeoBlight Studied abroad, grew up in the abroad, did you miss that part of the interview, came back home to contest in the big brother Naija reality show, she is living in a bubble and i pray Nigeria does not happen to her.

[@LeoBlight]

@@egbukwuprince I hope/pray for the very best for Nigeria and I hope to visit someday!

[@realmaureenoyakhilome]

@@egbukwuprince I live overseas and agree with her. However people chose their struggles. Believe it or not the western world is glorified. I don’t know about America but Europe is cold and I’m not talking about the weather.

[@MAdams-ey4if]

Infrastructure also means fully operational Grids for Electricity, Water and Sewage; Public Transprtation, Roads, Widely available Education and Training; Administrative Continuity; Addressable Postal Households. We don't need anther Marketing Manager, we need Engineers, Master Craftspeople, Scientist, we can't do what we need to do without the ability to do regular Civil Society things. .... As it relates to the people with Technical education like doctors and engineers, scientist, etc., these people need to have State of the Art experiences, they have to learn from the best about the latest and greatest and that takes at least 10-15 years. And then they are supposed to uproot the lives they built in the countries that gave them the professional experience and go back to Nigeria and start over? That is a big Ask! Nigeria is gonna have to find a way of bringing that expertise and embedding that kind of training into everything they create and build.

[@adrianm-he6he]

@MAdams-ey4if. Why do you think you’re entitled to all of those things others built in their countries? If you think you should have everything you listed then you should run for public office in Nigeria. Otherwise, expect to be disrespected and hated everywhere else.

[@PHlyestofNerds]

@@adrianm-he6hewhat kind of response is this? They don’t feel “entitled”, they are working for those things and don’t battle inadequate infrastructure and unnecessary civic obstacles.

[@DWThe77Percent]

Thank you for your invaluable input

[@globaltimes50]

If the barriers in your country are unbreakable- travel aboard, look for more opportunities, explore and develop yourself then logically your family and your sense of belonging will bring you back home so that is the time your inputs will be felt.

[@bra558]

Nigeria has everything to developed. The only solution is to come together as people and challenge their leaders to build the electric power systems to industrialisation.

[@mr_knowitall]

Depending on the government is a strategy for failure. Nigerians need to circumvent their government.

[@CBD7069..]

Similar with the Philippines. My family actually were OFWs in Nigeria as engineers. I’ve noticed both Nigerians and Filipinos have been leaving their homelands to utilize their education and practice their profession in other nations

[@victorolatope5148]

It's a difficult conversation... while there are many issues but I agree about coming back to contribute to fixing the issues.

[@swarseasogs6001]

Dey play 😂

[@thecatalyst1762]

there is no amount of individual contributions that will replace the government's job. The Nigerians government does not hav any interest in fixing these infrastructural issues.

[@adrianm-he6he]

@thecatalyst1762. The people are apart of the government. If you don’t do your job, they gov will ride roughshod over you. Even in countries you think are “advanced”.

[@TYETYE14]

Any government can get replaced even people with power, it takes the people to stop being scared and use 1 key word it's called common sense, which this society don't really use ​@@thecatalyst1762

[@DWThe77Percent]

Is that always that easy though?

[@hassanlawal5579]

Oooh, my goodness!!!!! I just love it when I see a group of very versatile/educated Nigerian youths get together and engage in a constructive debate. I love this video so much. Every participant here gave an account of why Nigeria is considered the giant of Africa. Absolutely brilliant debate. My utmost respect to everyone featured in this video. Love y'all.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@DWThe77Percent]

Thank you for your kind words. And please keep watching DW The 77 Percent. Please subscribe to our channel if you haven't already. Turn on your notification as well so you will be alerted on our new posts

[@Usagi1017]

I am not Nigerian, I am Congolese that born and grow up in Portugal. My dad wanted me to be a doctor and go to DRC to work. I refuse to be a doctor and I did not wanted to go to Congo as I knew I wouldn't earn much. But I believe one of problems is that every African wants to be a doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc. A lot of Africans countries also need agriculture, scientists, artists, historians, etc. These jobs are also important for a country to grow.

[@tyaler9805]

Yup

[@balqaasem]

Exactly. I’m also in China. But Nigeria hasn’t built for us what to rely on for the future. But we still need to go back and develop it. We can’t wait till everything is 100% right.

[@cloudsurfer73]

Eseosa's point towards the ends was my favourite part of the discussion. Change starts with us and our own mindsets, look at how we even treat each other. It starts with us.

[@Prim_Med]

Exactly!!

[@DWThe77Percent]

Thanks for watching!

[@lilianonyedikachi6997]

It's so sad that when we have an opportunity such as this to at least let the world hear what we are passing through in this country we try to play fair on it. Nigeria is getting really terrible everyday. The institutional corruption has eaten so deep into us. Before jakpa used to be for people who are not quite much financially okay here but now even people who have investments here sell out and leave. No systems work here. You can be the best in your field but just because one idiot has connection to the government you won't be taken. How about security, fake drugs everywhere, price of food stuff etc..."Pls don't let Nigeria happen to you..."

[@Weknowbetter622]

I love this debate and that they are young people. I had a female Doctor from Nigeria who was the best Doctor. I believe she retuned to Nigeria. The last time I saw her she was Pregnant and have not seen her since. I also had a Uber Driver from Nigeria and he said he was Yoruba and that he is a Doctor but not allowed to practice in America. He was a young man and I feel sad that he ran into racism here in the United States. But it is not a place for Africans because of the way they treat us as people of color. Even the people of color treat each other bad which is why America is on the decline.

[@jemmy24]

I love waht you said at the end, ' even people of colour treat each other bad' it's a human problem. It's no different In Nigeria. The tribalism is top notch.

[@youngman2740]

Many Nigerians travel to impact the world with their God given intelligences. Sometimes a Prophet is not honoured in his home town that is why we travel. Everyone should support Nigerians everywhere you see that, rebuild the arrogant ones to see good in themselves instead of arrogance then you will get the best from him/her. Nigerians are blessed relate with them. Our dream is to support the world since we ain't having the support we need at home that why we travel.

[@jasonwhite8537]

As a Black British man of Ghanaian heritage this conversation really hits hard. I really hate the negative undertone always given to diasporaians. I will never understand how people that haven't lived in the west tell you it will be better for them here! Plus us that have been here for 2-3 generations, do you really believe that we won't have a better chance with the same level of education as you? Seriously I have no problem with people wanting to leave but you need to LISTEN to us that have been here our whole lives because we know what we are talking about YOU DON'T!!!

[@jorgemells]

I've lived in Africa and in Europe and I can tell it's much better in Europe even with all the racial issues. It's easy for you to say people don't understand because you haven't lived in Africa. Every morning, as I opened my dad's shop, I'd see my neighbours raw sewage pouring into the streets, and there's almost nothing we could do about it. You'd rather live here than in Africa.

[@jasonwhite8537]

@@jorgemells I wouldn't disagree with what tell me about Africa, if you've lived and experienced it. My point is don't tell us about the west because you don't understand it the way we do, you haven't been through their systems, you don't fully understand their culture. You don't understand taking a job at 10% less your market value, you don't understand when they will collude against you with their nepotism. I bet you think corruption is bad in Africa? But don't understand the white man and the west! the problem is you think you do, and by leaving Africa you hurt her more. Plus with the millions of us already here in some of the worst conditions why come and add to it.

[@nkslolo4100]

​@@jasonwhite8537I would really love blacks in the west to be more impactful in their continent of origin and think of coming back to be a part of its positive upward trajectory

[@jasonwhite8537]

@@nkslolo4100We are! but on personal and family wealth. Our remittance contributions alone account for huge part of the African economy. The thing is, a lot of us feel like our contributions toward governmental advice is always seen as we are 'know it all's'. We are always looked as we are arrogant and rude.

[@blazer9547]

​@@jasonwhite8537 white man bad.😊

[@KVLINTERNATIONAL-o3h]

This is a great show. Enjoying it from Chicago.. we are interested in coming to Africa over here..

[@blessing2457]

😂😂

[@theblackgods4699]

Take your chances in chiraq

[@ronkeadeduntan7384]

This is deep..."hope is not a strategy". Simply, just hoping for the better without moving changes nothing

[@ernestmorapedi3760]

HOPING AND PRAYING THAT GOD WILL HELP THEM

[@tosin5346]

I will rather be discriminated against in a foreign country than killed in my own country over nothing. Powerful words! Such an indictment on our leaders

[@danielkomolafe936]

You are absolutely correct. I left Nigeria some years ago, I only returned to get married and went back.

[@kadiriolaniyi4603]

@@danielkomolafe936 But you still came back. Something brought you back. Hope another thing will not bring you back again?

[@adrianm-he6he]

@tosin5346. And that’s why Nigerians are hated and disrespected across the world today, unlike others who are treated with respect like the Chinese.

[@trollthetruthand5458]

She wants to live off others hard work she doesn't want to fix her country she wants to come to America and call blacks lazy when they fought for her to get an education here.

[@netteundgut]

So why did you not marry in that abroad you went, if you are in Rome you behave like the Roman​@@danielkomolafe936

[@samadikwu5294]

Interesting debate with valid opinions from both sides. All leaders that failed Nigeria should watch this and hide their faces in shame.

[@notjustbaggish]

But sadly, they don't have shame. Are they not occultic, serving the wishes of their master the devil? Since when did an occultic person told to eat his/her own faeces to become rich became shameful about going through with it?

[@agnescraig2912]

I really don't think they care. Buhari for example has two wives and ten children all living in luxury thanks to Dad and Mum. In Nigeria the Rich are respected no matter how they got Rich. The current Leader Bola is an extremely wealthy individual and has just appointed his son-in-law to a senior job. That's what I noticed interacting with Nigerians. Nepotism corruption bribes and constantly asking for "Dash"

[@sunesis101]

Solid conversation. So proud of these young people. The moderator is amazing, a conversationist to the core. Great content!

[@ousmannjie8530]

Talk straight. The problem is corruption, and no one of you has mentioned it. Be vigilant. The struggle continues!

[@olaniyimuyi5440]

So Mr Dapo, in the video, said, " One challenge we have is the number of people compared to the resources we have in this country." This statement is not only false but misleading and it shows the level of ignorance amongst the people we allow to take leadership positions. Nigeria is so blessed with more than enough resources and people like this who are without awareness and are in certain positions are a large part of our challenges. .

[@abahiduh3246]

I pointed this out... he was just biased because he is in an office and would not want to be just for the obvious corrupt benefit

[@Boombastic82]

Don't you see he is like a fresh turkey eating from the Lagos government. You know see him belle na thief him be

[@Pax30001]

I think the problem is how much of these resources is government investing in, in a way that job opportunities for people in this country are made available, and using these resources apart from Oil' to generate revenue for the country.

[@nnanyelugoanekwe218]

Dapo was talking rubbish.

[@macanthony1982]

@17:32... this lady is way off... bottom line is that yes, living in America is not a bed of roses by any stretch but you can be an "average" earner and still live comfortable (24/7 light, decent infrastructure...etc), compared to Nigeria where you need to be "rich" just to live average, then with that if you have a house in Nigeria you would have to provide your own stable electricity (generator/inverter), access to stable water (borehole), and even your own security (depending where you live).... So yes, that is why folks are leaving Nigeria... In the United States at least basic infrastructure is a standard

[@adrianm-he6he]

@macanthony1982. So US infrastructure where the average American consumes more than 7xs the global average is “standard” huh? With high carbon emissions per capita and waste, there will have to be 7 Earths to allow for the global population to consume as much as Americans do. This is not standard, it’s gluttony. This doesn’t take into account that the maleficent wealth of $26T gdp was built by centuries long race-based slavery where the only infrastructure you would of had were chains and an overcrowded -8C shack in the backyard. Pure idiocy.

[@LilSyl05]

Great discussion as usual. I think there needs to be an incentive for people to come back. But the question is, why aren't those incentives already in place? Jobs like doctors often require a lot of infrastructure due to the tools they use, so it may necessitate government intervention. However, there are other jobs that don't require government intervention. For example, to open a garage or a restaurant, you don't necessarily need government involvement. That's why Africa needs entrepreneurs with good work ethics. I believe that if there are enough entrepreneurs demonstrating that it can work, then the government will have no choice but to want to participate because it will ultimately benefit them. Consequently, they will incentivize people to come back. I am also surprised that no one talked about meritocracy. People need to be hired based on merit and not on their relationships. Competent individuals should be selected for jobs based on their skills and qualifications, not on their connections with the boss. This approach encourages meritocracy rather than mediocrity. While the Western world is not perfect, it is definitely more meritocratic than Africa. That's why individuals in positions of power in the West are usually more competent. It's better to have competent people in power because they make better decisions that contribute to the prosperity of the organization or business.

[@adrianm-he6he]

@LilSyl05. America is and always has been a country based on *race* not merit. If you want a real meritocracy with jobs that pay fair wages you have to build it.

[@LilSyl05]

@@adrianm-he6he okay that is your opinion. That being said in the meantime lots of people (non white) all across the world want to go to America. They must want a piece of that racism.. 🤷🏿‍♂️ Do you live in America?

[@temiladealamudun5063]

Agreed 👍

[@the-voiceofone]

The American girl really annoyed me. She lived in America all her life and so it's only normal to wanna go somewhere else and she japa'd to Nigeria, what she did is what many Nigerians are trying to do, so don't try to stop them. Secondly she has an American education which will win a job over any African degree any day so don't make it look like it's wrong for Nigerians to wanna go look for better. I lived overseas for about 21 years and returned to Nigeria in 2014 and it has been tough living here to the point I ask myself many times "why I did I come back here". I had the tools I needed to succeed overseas but I don't have them here. Funding, infrastructure, support systems etc are lacking here.

[@obiomaonyeobia4870]

Yes. My uncle went back to Nigeria with his foreign wife and children. Only to go back abroad to start all over. Waste of time and resources. His only consolation was his children getting their primary and secondary school education in Nigeria. Sort of growing up with their Nigerian peers. Which molded them into successful adults. Personally, I won’t be bothered. Nigeria is not worth it. I grew up there. That’s enough.

[@uwagboefrancis8450]

Great. A very Big Thank you to the organisers of this Show.

[@DWThe77Percent]

Thanks for watching!

[@aurayah2849]

Well said young sister, we need to change our mentality!❤

[@OkoroaforKenneth]

How can you change your mentality when as soon as you step out of your house you’re hit with your reality, and you have to survive in this reality, if you were born in France you wouldn’t be thinking like this, we only think like this because we are Nigerians

[@iyaiya9819]

The lady talking about being trapped is very right. I’ve been trapped in America for ten years, it’s crazy. I’m no longer interested in the tall buildings and infrastructure, all I need is love of my family!!!!

[@tayobibi]

Japa falls into a lot of categories. People are running based on insecurities, lack of jobs, lack of infrastructures and the worst part of it is the lack of no electricity which is the most vital thing needed for development and small scale businesses. As a Nigerian I don’t think I will ever return back to the country unless we get rid of corrupt politicians with law in place to jail them for years behind bars. The country is never going to be good.

[@agnescraig2912]

Spot on but corruption and bribes are a way of life. Sadly all Africans are very religious but their leaders do not teach morality and ethics.

[@sportsbet-365]

These are Nigerians and they are speaking ENGLISH. Woow! Seriously, I stumbled upon this show and I kinda like the originality it brings to the table. Keep going! Beautiful show and the debates are instructive. I'm an Ivorian, by the way and I would love Nigeria to be the first country I will ever visit as part of my plan to visit all the English countries on the continent.

[@nigeriansista]

The official language in Nigeria is English.

[@erniemo3052]

Well done Edith for facilitating discussion on a multifaceted issue

[@DWThe77Percent]

Thanks for watching! We love to see you around always🙂

[@Tagg25]

I love this interview style big up

[@DWThe77Percent]

Thank you!

[@tok1879]

It all comes down to the government. Many diasporan Nigerians who have returned with good intentions and big plans have to overcome the huge barriers known as the corrupt government.

[@agnescraig2912]

Bet that the statistics are far removed. Only a handful return

[@tok1879]

@@agnescraig2912 anecdotally, i know a few who gave up on their plans and had to return back to the States

[@andrews6952]

I think they all make fair points even if they are diverging. Everyone wants to improve themselves and thrive but there is a collective responsibility.

[@bettyangel7009]

Humans do not adapt to collective responsibility of suffering. Youth in all over the world and working with AI while Nigeria remains in renaissance age. There is no infrastructure in place to show that there will be change in next 20 yrs.

[@bettyangel7009]

All these people need to get out of Nigeria, then they can talk. You work to dig gutter in the US, at the end of the day you get paid. Nigerian workers work for 6 months and not get paid.

[@andrews6952]

@@bettyangel7009 I don't know I'm in canada we have infrastructure we take for granted

[@adrianm-he6he]

@bettyangel7009. That’s the type of government you *allow* . You get what you pay for.

[@shakdizzle]

This was/is a good segment. I love watching your content. I love how you do your journalism. Talking to real people about real day to day issues in their every day life.

[@DWThe77Percent]

Thank you!

[@shakdizzle]

@@DWThe77Percent sista you deserve it. I want to thank you. I have never been to Africa and I would love to go some day but before I go I want to know what's happening there, how to treat others, what are some of the issues there, tribalism and more and because of you and the way you interview the people I as well as many others can understand the issues there, culture and more from the people

[@lekejacobs4864]

Great debate and very valid points! However, I expected INSECURITY to have been specifically mentioned, as one of the major reasons why many Nigerians opt to relocate. Even a top government official can be kidnapped or be a victim of terrorism, in the Nigeria of today. A country whose successive governments cannot secure the lives and properties of its citizens, or does not show keenness or political will to end terrorism, for good, where the school, the religious houses, the farm, or even the home are not safe from directs, actual and recurrent acts of terrorism, is not worth living in. A country where sheer, undisguised impunity in the high places is the order of the day is not worth living in, but relocating from...!

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

Impunity culture isn't limited to the upper class. Rather it is also the aspiration of the less privileged most of whom only complain because they're not beneficiaries of impunity.

[@hillsongcovers2173]

I wish we all knew how many people who came back in high hopes, even with their oyibo associates, to contribute to fixing the issues but ended up highly disappointed and disillusioned because the corrupt government is not ready to support them. Instead the people in power scare them away by brazenly demanding for bribes in millions of dollars which is euphemistically called advance fee payment. For example, I have a friend who flew in from Canada a couple of years back with some Canadian investors during Buhari's admin. They had mind-blowing proposals on the premise of Public Private Partnership (PPP). The government has practically no stake in most PPPs other than to provide some kind of licensing and an enabling environment. But my friend and those Canadians had to fly back because they were not ready or willing to compromise. Imagine how many proposals that have been turned down this way, directly or indirectly. Imagine how many jobs that'd been created if and only if the government had played their own role in a clean and honest manner as is expected of them.

[@jpraise6771]

They're sabotaging our country, and good luck running for office with good morals and not getting assassinated.

[@john-tr8jy]

So basically, Nigeria is underdeveloped by will not by some colonial or divine power?

[@hillsongcovers2173]

@@john-tr8jy Absolutely!!!

[@Music-yq8qc]

​@@hillsongcovers2173 Not true. But I get your point

[@popsonjaiyesimi7670]

Nigeria happened to them. Some are damaged psychologically due to Nigeria value systems.

[@africandream_]

Edith 🥰 always cute ... anyway i feel like this is low key happening here in kenya we just don't have a word for it yet ... soon we may see greater numbers leaving with the current economic crisis ... praying for Gods grace through such difficult times

[@ichooseviolence2532]

Majority of Kenyans always invest and go back home... Nigerians don't , they always settle wherever they go

[@kandisphere8828]

The American lady is speaking from a place of privilege. In the USA, her education was supported by government until end of high school, yet doctors in Nigeria are supposed to pay to educate their kids all through. If that American lady grew up in the village, with struggles, poor education or difficult accessing services, she would understand why people Jakpa!

[@ofilispeaks]

She was exhausting to listen to.

[@jadesingleton4110]

Have you been to the U.S.? We have people living and dying on the streets. We have mass shootings nearly every week. How do you know HOW that woman lived in the US. There are hell holes in the US as well. There are shanties, there is street defecation, there are rats as big as cats in some places. You don’t know us. Obviously. It’s not easy here in this country either. Believe it.

[@kandisphere8828]

@jadesingleton4110 I know.. I have been to the US so many times, and I've been to L.A. and NY, where I have seen the homeless in large numbers. However, I acknowledge my privilege as an African who is able to even travel. The way she speaks oozes privilege, and she has shown no regard for those suffering and just seeking better lives, especially when they have worked to earn it. Africa is not poor because people are not working hard. It is because of broken governance systems, corruption, and impunity. Changing such systemic problems require people who give up on their personal dreams and families to become the sacrificial lambs like some have already done. Are you willing to let your family suffer in your homeland, or move to a place where at least you can get a job.. Sorry, I am not interested in being the next Nelson Mandela (with respect for our hero) because my family will always come first before my country.

[@Nicol74]

Lol, u obviously don't have any clue what living in the US is all about. The government doesn't support you in doing anything. It's a capitalist system. You virtually pay for everything. People took huge amount of loans just to go to college.

[@iamjoycelewis]

I pray she doesn't happen to her. Na only her go book the next Delta Airline flight back to the US. 😂

[@views3313]

The host is fantastic as always. Great work!

[@HenrySund]

I'm a Nigeria ✊🏿🇳🇬 I love this ❤❤

[@yomi7742]

Well, I have tasted different sides of Nigeria and very hopeful that things can get better. Let's solve the electricity problems, provide incentives for the professionals as against the political class, minimize nepotism, and set up systems that minimises humans interfacing together in government institutions. The latter would reduce institutional corruption. Nigerians want to live in Nigeria and those in the Diaspora also want to return home to build.

[@adrianm-he6he]

@yomi7742. Exactly. Nigerians have lived in their own land for thousands of years without electricity, suddenly they betray their ancestral land without it. Mentality issue.

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

Great points. The issue is how does one expect those in authority to make policies that place the interests of the majority ahead of their own personal interests?

[@dragonbae]

Good discussion. More of this

[@DWThe77Percent]

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[@AdekunleLawal]

At some point our politicians have to feel the heat if they don’t do the needful. This is having an effect on the fabric of society.

[@notjustbaggish]

The issue is that they have defenders who will protect them from the heat. Those emilokan crying today will still repeat how they acted during the elections again, given the chance. The facts are there.

[@OkoroaforKenneth]

Our politicians have failed, we spoke out they killed us, look at what happen during the presidential election everyone knew what went down but was anything done about it ? No, evil prevailed the west turned their back on us, sadly no one is coming to help us the only leverage we have is God and that’s a story for another day.

[@R247Success]

Nigeria is full of bright and intelligent people. Big respect to all these smart people. They are all bright and excellent

[@DallasSan1]

This is a great conversation

[@lanrea9373]

Frankly speaking a lots of people are willing and some already came to Nigeria but they have seen discourage them from staying or even coming.

[@pchab1966]

I am going to say this: and all these people can dismiss me as they dismissed the young woman who has been back in Nigeria since she was 20 for coming from a "privileged" position: the doctors in Gaza are serving in war and occupation WITHOUT PAY! DOCTORS since medieval times and almost anywhere in the world serve with low pay. It is only in the modern West that they have luxurious incomes and that relates to the enormous cost of studying medicine in 5he West and the loans they have to take and repay! Nigeria should look itself in the eye and ask why there is no National Patriotism, but an all out obsession with money above all else! Therein is the crux of the matter.

[@tyaler9805]

Beautifully said, I agree

[@ishmeldaniel7127]

Those ones who want to stay don’t be surprised to see them in Canada, USA , London tomorrow

[@damariskaroki5455]

agreed, I had friends who undermined my leaving Kenya, now, they are in US. Nice debate though.

[@rwenji22]

What! Kimani gaitu!……great conversations from our brothers and sisters in Nigeria. Keep it up!

[@itschristianahx]

I really enjoyed watching this conversation unfold and it was greatly managed by the presenter. This is so informative from all sides, loved it 🙌🏾

[@DWThe77Percent]

Thank you!

[@hillsongcovers2173]

A young man from overseas was presenting his wonderful fix-the-nation proposal to a senator one day but the senator, another old man who is there just to loot as they usually do, was shamelessly nodding off to sleep as the presentation was going on. Amazing! Not surprising anyways, because many of them sleep off as they sit in the national assembly to discuss issues to move the country forward, and after that they get paid their seating allowance which is in whopping sums

[@agnescraig2912]

Yes very true. Noticed that when I lived in Nigeria and went to forums. Wondered whether they were on night shifts. Nigerians also have too many children even the educated ones do not stop at 3. Am a fierce critic of parents all over the world who have more than 3 children, even if they are wealthy. The planet earth has finite resources and what drives the present migration to the West crises is large families in the developing world and Muslim countries in particular in search of a better life. No excuses must be practised religiously although all religions are against abortions in order to stay in power and provide hope to people who live in miserable conditions.

[@davidonunkwo1733]

Some of you I’ll just open mouth and talk what you have no idea of, I am coming back to Nigeria 🇳🇬 soon , Nigeria is a very good place to stay alright, my player is let the dollar rate be low

[@notjustbaggish]

You are welcome. Do whatever you like, but don't discount the struggles of others.

[@ndukaanalogbei1043]

U don't knw the struggle back, just like those that japa abroad without knowledge of struggle out there, the same awaits those that want to return back home.

[@jupiter144]

Born in Nigeria and moved to London when I was 6 years old. I'm educated up to BA level and I can't wait to leave this country and move back to Nigeria or somewhere in Africa. Anyone in Africa considering moving to the USA, UK, France, or Germany isn't keeping up with economic global affairs and isn't prepared enough to withstand how harsh these countries have become. 15 years ago.. yes move, now no! I acknowledge it is rough In Nigeria but consider moving to another African Country because these people don't want us here and most of us here don't want to be here. TBH you're better off in Brazil and/or other up-and-coming economies.

[@theblackgods4699]

😂😂😂😂 let us see for ourselves

[@jupiter144]

🤣Thats funny and fair enough@@theblackgods4699

[@oluwasegunajayi2167]

It's easier to talk about love for the country from a vantage or privileged position. I believe an average Nigerian including those who want to japa sincerely love the country. Like one of the speakers said, there is a push and pull force. To make people stay or want to come back, there must be another kind of force to make people stay or come back. Most people that japa today never had the intention abinitio.

[@fortuneemeka3119]

This is a great platform... DW Welldone!!!

[@DWThe77Percent]

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[@_rules715]

A simple way to look at this is to not focus on the big western countries. People are literally moving to Portugal and some other not so rich European countries. They are not going there to look for jobs, because they simply do not exist. They are going there for stable electricity and internet, relative security and peace etc. What are some of these countries leveraging to sell these "Tech/Innovator-visas"? How are our leaders responding? Does Nigeria have a talent retention policy? All we hear is let's stop people from leaving? A responsible govt. would develop actionable strategy and implement. Look at the rising insecurity and govt's continued inaction. HOLD LEADERSHIP ACCOUNTABLE. People who come back to Nigeria like Anto should really educate themselves and speak from a position of balanced understanding. She is an American, has access to leave whenever, apply for jobs anywhere in the country, she probably came in with reasonable capital to set-up herself with probably a family home in choice areas of Nigeria. People like these should absolutely not compare themselves with the average struggling Nigerian who are pathfinders. If their ancestors never migrated, they would be spitting different word.

[@franakpan]

In the United States of America, the government preferentially gives doctors nothing. Everybody be you a professional work to deserve what it takes. We Nigerians are deceived to think that the West is a bed of roses, definitely not. There is so much to do and succeed in nigeria. We must hold our government officials and politicians accountable and agitate for our rights. Nigerians do not fight for their rights. Do not just keep quiet for the politicians to drive the economy to their selfish ends. Being abroad is not easy. You are not from there. Don't be deceived. It takes every one of us to make Africa better. The diasporians, to be honest, are being trapped abroad. Help fix the problems in nigeria. Stop the japa thing.

[@adrianm-he6he]

@franakpan. You must do all you can to educate Nigerians on this issue. It’s gotten far out of hand.

[@canadaonly701]

Sometimes when we make contributions, we should consider the masses who have no privilege.... let's get it straight an immigrant who traveled legally has 60% chances of succeeding why because of the system....we have the likes of calendly, esusu ... this are companies own by Nigerians and the are Unicorn with few years of operation.....when I see saying is easier back here in Nigeria it baffles me except you are thief, politicians or you are into fraud....the chances of succeeding is very slim..... I know of someone who has been looking for job for years even as a PhD holder....so let get the fact right...

[@franakpan]

When you land in the United States, please be ready to do any menial job but legitimate, like driving trucks, big busses, all sorts of what Nigerians graduates may categorize as non white collar or menial jobs. Here in the USA, people go for any legitimate jobs that bring money that can help pay bills, not care about prestige, all without shame or fear. You find their citizens and green card holders abandoning masters/PhD jobs and doing anything that comes their ways. Getting a good job in USA also requires your year of previous experience in the field. If you bring skills, the better for you, and you will most likely be tested. The employers also can train so long as you have managed to get the job and the employer is after your productivity. But think outside the box, nigeria is better. Just start something legitimate, do away with shame, graduate thing mentality, and be consistent. You will be surprised that nigeria is better. My plan is to develop young Africans to see the abundant opportunities in Africa and turn them into successful entrepreneurs so that when they Japa, they japa to explore and exploit.

[@notjustbaggish]

@@adrianm-he6he You need an education on the complexities of Nigeria so that you will understand. I can't type it all out here. But Nigeria is unique because it's like a contraption of 3, 4 or more ethnic groups that can each form a country on its own. Mostly, the cultures and aspirations of these groups are VERY VERY DIVERSE to co-exist harmoniously. When Nigeria was formed by the british, none of the regions were asked if they would like to be in the union and this brings with it a lot of clashes. Picture this, there's a group exactly like Afghanistan in Nigeria. There's a China there, there's a Colombia and there's a Holland. In the beginning, there was an awareness of these diverse regions and their identities so the regions were autonomous, but one thing led to another. From corruption and nepotism that led to a coup, then a progrom and ultimately a civil war, these regions were now fused to function like a single entity by the powers that be for their own selfish reasons. This in turn, incentivizes every region to fight for their own tribesman to control the seat of power because it would mean that their own person will work to develop their region, otherwise they can't survive. Sadly, the politicians who will then grab the power are usually the very dirty ones because they can be violent as they may have built their army of thugs to rig the electoral process. Plus bribing too. The current president is from the Yoruba tribe and while not all yorubas may support him, there are a lot who do. If protests gets violent, and the president gets attacked, the next thing is they will find someone in the front who is not a Yoruba and claim it is an attack from another tribe, even though their fellow yorubas are in the protest. Then it will become a war between tribes because the gullible ones will believe them and fight. Meanwhile, the crooked politician will be backing his tribe with government machinations. Ok, what if the yorubas do it alone? They won't want to fight themselves as they think they will be imploding their tribe and putting themselves in a weaker position if they did that. So, this is why today, a lot of people, especially Biafrans are clamoring for secession and division of the entity called Nigeria so that everyone can deal with the criminals in their midst themselves.

[@canadaonly701]

@@franakpan All these epistle just to justify bad government comparing US with $23.3 trillion GDP with a country less than $400 billion ..... If you can mention 10 corporate jobs that you can found in a Nigeria fully owned companies.... I doubt if you can easily found.....I don't expect you to mention banks

[@pfp5364]

Nothing will change untill the youth fight back

[@shalomchild7414]

I haven’t watched the whole video, so much wisdom from the little I heard. I pray for Nigeria wholeheartedly 🙏🏽

[@kokorasimonpierreagbate7075]

Hello.. I come across this channel from Ivory coast and I acknowledge its necessary to be.It's actually a good initiative street debate that I do feel all africans people in,we are all concerned about the issue Nigerian youth is dropping out. Thanks.

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[@AfroGreekIslander]

"I'd rather live abroad and be discriminated against than be killed in my own country for no reason." At least there's stable electricity abroad plus no one is trying to kidnap me.

[@brightolay8346]

Give these immigrants 10years from now at the most and ask them the same questions. You will be shocked that they will be dying to return back to Nigeria. I have been living in UK for 2 decades and I am trying my best to return back to Nigeria. Nigeria has big space in housing, fresh foods everyday, free solar electricity, free borehole water, cheap petrol, low taxes and no racism. I love Nigeria

[@ChyGNO]

What are you on about? 😂😂😂 Which solar electricity? Cheap petrol? Tribalism? Insecurity? No taxes? Dey play

[@brightolay8346]

@chiamakanwosu639 Today Petrol is £1.40 in the UK but £0.15 in Nigeria despite the fact that petrol is an international commodity. Nigeria price is the 6th cheapest in Africa. Solar installation that can give you 1KVA basic use in Nigeria is £400 but in the UK, you are talking about close to £5000. One bedroom flat apartment in Nigeria is £150 per year but £6000 in the UK outside London. Nigeria has no winter but summer all year, so there is no heating cost. Nigeria is far better than Europe 1000times

[@adrianm-he6he]

@brightolay8346. I wish someone could tell me what’s wrong with these peoples mindsets. I hope you are fighting to educate these misguided souls.

[@o.t9358]

​@@brightolay8346 how much is the cost of petrol in comparison to the minimum wage, can the average person afford solar. Mind you poverty rate in the country is about 70%. Also rent in Nigeria is paid yearly as opposed to monthly or weekly these countries, how many people can afford to budget for a yearly large sum

[@brightolay8346]

@o.t9358 Many people living in Europe and America do 2 or 3 jobs. But in Nigeria you just want to do one job and complain that your monthly pay is small. But you are happy to come to Europe to do 2 or 3 jobs. Tell me any country apart from Nigeria where petrol sells for £0.15 per litre? Nigeria should be investing in electric vehicles because we have an abundance of sunlight. Every state in Nigeria by law can now build plants to generate electricity. Talk to your governors to give you electricity and shift to electric vehicles. The price of petrol will become irrelevant to inflation. That's Nigeria future

[@bluecouchpodcast24]

Im watching from South Africa 🇿🇦... Nigerians must stay in their country and fight the system instead of skipping the country..

[@luzukombuqu4976]

No one is willing to do that 😢

[@PeGaSus230]

This is a very informative …and necessary discussion! Glad I found it.

[@DWThe77Percent]

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[@R247Success]

I love this discussion. very enlightening.

[@DiasporaDoodles]

I am a teacher and I left Nigeria 20 years ago. I have travelled the world teaching at international schools on all the continents of the world and will say I have learnt so much from my experience. I am now uploading my experience on my channel with hopes that it would inspire people to do what I do and take advantage of the teacher shortage everywhere. My hope is that we will all return to Nigeria at some point and use what we have learnt to harness the absolute brilliance of Nigeria.

[@olomoolayinka9299]

Excellent vibes! Can you name your channel and subjects you cover?

[@DiasporaDoodles]

@@olomoolayinka9299 Diaspora Doodles. My specialty - Maths and Science because of my background in Microbiology (Epidemiology to be exact)

[@TheKing75691]

Nothing ever got solved by somebody running from it

[@09roadmaster]

Insecurity, insecurity, insecurity! Until one can walk the streets of Lagos at 2am without feearing for their life, deal with the police without fearing for their life, travel the country without fear of being kidnapped, I'm sorry, but its not a good proposition to remain in Nigeria. Nigerians have always leverage opportunities to provide infrastructure for themselves, unfortunately, for you to be able to provide security for yourself, you need to be a high networth individual. Once the security issues in Nigeria are addressed, watch many people abroad come back to Nigeria. Infrastructure is easy to build or workaround, but security challenges are not.

[@regalchic]

Naild it!

[@Prim_Med]

Thank you for your channel! Im grateful.

[@DWThe77Percent]

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[@bigthangz5489]

i love these street debates💙💙💙💙