Street Debate - Is gender equality a bad motion in Uganda?

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5 жыл бұрын

Uganda has a pretty poor reputation when it comes to the treatment of women. How did things get so bad and what can be done to change this? That's what 77 Percent reporter Edith Kimani asked her panel of guests for this week's street debate in Kampala. Women play a vital role in supporting their communities in Africa, but they represent only about 15 percent of the continent's landowners. Girls are still often married off at an early age, are far more vulnerable to sexual assault and have a higher rate of illiteracy. But there are women fighting to change things for the better.
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@DWThe77Percent 5 жыл бұрын

Why have some societies failed to treat women and men the same?

@KAIZORIANEMPIRE 4 жыл бұрын

Men and women are not equal. We can't treat people the same because we would be undue burden to people that aren't as equipped in a particular aspect. Men can't have children (birth) and women in general can't build houses as effectively as men due to physical impedence

@bellawangari8557 4 жыл бұрын

Intellectually you can treat men and women the same.

@JosephineAwuah-Dapaah 4 жыл бұрын

This is so disturbing. 3 year olds and women who are covered up are being raped. Why are we giving excuses and allowing men to act the way they do? Why give him permission to rape any woman/girl who walks around wearing what they want to wear? Gosh!!! This is troubling. We have a long way to go as Africans.

@i_am_ironman3380 3 жыл бұрын

It's kinda sad how many of our opinions are shaped by American demographics. "Red pill" mentality makes far more sense, but, sadly in our continent, you'd have to be blind to ignore the clear mistreatment of women. We need more shows like this, content based on our lands.

@clivesibandaj5902 4 жыл бұрын

Hi. My name is Clive Sibanda from Zimbabwe. l'm new to this amazing channel and l'm really enjoying it. l'm really surprised to see that we're having the same debates here in Southern Africa as you discuss in most of your shows. This proves that we are one people with a common agenda. l also feel like the solution to our social problems will be to come together and reflect on our cultures and see if we can develop and modernize them so that every member of the society feel included and respected. Now most people in Africa are starting to question the European culture that we follow because it has caused more harm than good

@prettisibbs2176 5 ай бұрын

Totally agree 💯

@linalesia5188 Жыл бұрын

Our forefathers were not rapists despite women then wearing barely anything. This emphasis on women modesty only highlights lack of self control on men. The problem is with men, not women in this situation.

@veraaddoyobo8482 5 ай бұрын

That was a lot to do with our spirituality, in those days a man raping a woman will result in him being curse

@muzimnisi260 2 жыл бұрын

Equality in opportunity doesn't automatically translate to equality of outcome.

@natashacampbell5200 4 жыл бұрын

These women are so bright & articulate considering the circumstances they are dealing with. I am actually very surprised that they are dealing with this type of discrimination in this day and age. As a female living in the UK this is a very hard pill to swallow. P.S Can someone high 5 the male feminist! Talking so much sense

@KAIZORIANEMPIRE 4 жыл бұрын

Sense to you is someone that agrees with you right ?

@Flex2212 4 жыл бұрын

@@KAIZORIANEMPIRE The fact remains that these woman obviously have put a lot more thinking into their refined arguments than most men in general and these guys in the video especially. Maybe you should too?

@KAIZORIANEMPIRE 4 жыл бұрын

@@Flex2212 i love to laugh when people on youtube project. I am well versed in reasoning. I understand the arguments and they are basically stupid like most arguments made by anybody . They want to do things that serves them. It's not logic it's self preservation. Again i can write something stupid in a pro mans channel and they will be like woow bro amazing, same as these women saying nonense. help yourself and learn how to think

@Flex2212 4 жыл бұрын

@@KAIZORIANEMPIRE Maybe she was projecting, maybe she was not. You cannot prove to me she was, which, ironically, is how I prove, that you in fact did project with your original question.

@KAIZORIANEMPIRE 4 жыл бұрын

@@Flex2212 there is no projection from me. I am simply stating what i see. Everybody projects so she is definitely projecting and whe ni say prokect i don't mean from her own feelings i mean from the multiple experiences she's had and how people usually are in her perception. This is the definition of projection i am using which she meets

@Flex2212 4 жыл бұрын

Consider this my fellow men: It is the same ignorance from many/most men towards their problematic relationship with women as many/most Europeans have towards their problematic relationship with Africans: Both have not felt the pain because of their priviliged position, both are profiting from systematic exploitation and both are not listening, instead behaving paternalistic, which is why both are NOT able to empathize.

@skip031890 2 жыл бұрын

What a stupid comment.

@nkreseknowledge2241 4 жыл бұрын

Do not marry!! And stop having children. That should fix it!!

@VernettaRFreeney 3 жыл бұрын

Baby this discussion was fiyah These women held their ground. And shout out to the 1 man speaking against the patriarchy.

@kanyembomwita1790 5 ай бұрын

Because he was on your side 😂😂, women ☕

@Organictreatment Жыл бұрын

It's a shame to notice the reporting of these event showed clearly the news anchor is a feminists supporter and couldn't be professional and stay neutral. I bet I would have remained neutral but I also have a side I would have loved to comment.

@ccmma6399 4 жыл бұрын

This Edith is a star. Spectacular. Awesome.

@omarlamine7212 3 жыл бұрын

Good feats. Please do continue writing the names of the speakers in green . It is more visible in green.

@raaitsehai 3 жыл бұрын

Male and Female are equal and opposite, just like a battery has two polar charges, you can't have one without the other, each has a role to play and sometimes they play the same role.

@marthangafor6414 5 ай бұрын

Thank you! It's about mutual respect and team work.

@johng.9143 5 жыл бұрын

I love your moderation of the debate Edith Kimani. The debate is quite eye-opening to the reality of things. I think that the point of feminism should be to fight against unfair, assultive and irrational behaviour by men towards women. God loves us equally and he made us different and even differently in a way that our our difference bridges the gap in making humanity whole. The agenda that we should be equal needs to be very clear in what that equality is about. I mean, equal in what way? In terms of same payment for same amount or quality of work done by man and woman, I believe that this should not even be an issue to discuss. The pay should be equal. The ones paying women les have a problem! Every one should be treated with utmost respect, no matter who they are.

@DWThe77Percent 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, John. I think you're right in every aspect. The pay should be equal indeed. But the question is; why is it even a debate that women should be treated fairly like their men counterparts? What's missing in the first place?

@dramese Жыл бұрын

Every time the guy who describes himself as a feminist every time he opens his mouth, wisdom just flows. The guy is very smart and wise. I think all the men here lay down they case well although some of them where wrong. I really enjoyed this one, very informative and a learning experience for me as a man. I could see the sister's frustrations.

@hassanabi4508 4 жыл бұрын

I'm just here for edith kimani

@african4547 4 жыл бұрын

And social issues of course

@Flex2212 4 жыл бұрын

HOW has this not got more views???

@jpraise6771 5 ай бұрын

Such an underrated channel

@kimmyo483 3 жыл бұрын

The two men are sooo frustrating😡😪

@Xinny000 3 жыл бұрын

Super interesting! Really well done!

@jamaica5308 5 жыл бұрын

Also would live to correct those feminist on Attires.The government has a specification on men attires when on a job, that is very official cloths and men have acccepted it.Now when women are told to wear official, feminist claim its a discrimination, which I think is ignorance.

@amlegion.547 10 ай бұрын

What a great 👍 way to end the debate, Monday always debate out of point, but i still love him most; Much love ❤️ from naija; PEACE ✌️.

@BosomofAbraham 4 жыл бұрын

The moderator got too emotionally involved. It's sad to see that feminist poison has reached African women and affected them so deeply.

@T1Oracle 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe you need to be a Trokosi bride to understand how wrong you are? Physical strength does not grant you authority over women.

@BosomofAbraham 3 жыл бұрын

@@T1Oracle if you think it's just about physical strength, you are a foolish person.

@christinenamuddu8584 3 жыл бұрын

Please educate yourself

@charlesekpima8210 Жыл бұрын

@@T1Oracle then we are not obligated to protect or build shelter with that strength

@jpraise6771 5 ай бұрын

@@charlesekpima8210to play devil's advocate here: women COULD do all those things, it's just that some of them would be less effective than what the men would be doing. Furthermore, an excellent point was brought up earlier, with the change in society, tradition is undoubtedly shifted as well. Men's strength doesn't actually mean anything with the rise of machinery lol

@allankiplimo9752 4 жыл бұрын

Edith i will always follow you online everywhere you go.

@connierogers2840 4 жыл бұрын

No matter how you dress.... a man is going have desires for you period!... it’s human.... as a woman this is one thing that keeps me from looking at Africa as an option to live... where is the value of the woman?

@Organictreatment Жыл бұрын

Nothing can be equal otherwise then let's run the the same marathon with both men and women. We were created different and the man was given the upper hand sadly to the women. Even the Bible asks Men to lead but never to forget the women who they are ordered to LOVE most and Cherish. Let develop Equity and not Equality. Yeah equality can only be found in a dictionary. 😊 I loved that ending.

@BosomofAbraham 4 жыл бұрын

Dress code makes sense. Why do men go to strip clubs? For the environment,? No. What if men dressed like women? Think about it. Why not talk to traditional women.

@Mufasa_Shabazz 4 жыл бұрын

She pulls the mic away when he says that women belong to society, this is the point I am making. Feminism is for women taking freedom and liberty for their own sake, the whole of society is taken into no consideration. This is unacceptable and selfish.

@ndagiretracy3456 3 жыл бұрын

If you think that is selfish and unacceptable, help me answer this one question , where do men belong? The way I see it is that it is selfish and unacceptable to you because you (men) are the sole beneficiaries of the patriarchal society.

@Mufasa_Shabazz 3 жыл бұрын

@@ndagiretracy3456 I live in Anerikkka as a Black man, there is no patriarchy here for us.

@TheFriendlyPsychopath 2 жыл бұрын

What these women want is men to yield to them and to acquiesce to whatever they want without doing all the hard work.

@josemigel 10 ай бұрын

Sophia the men are saying the bitter truth. Stop cringing 😅😅😅

@bossmachi 2 жыл бұрын

Beyond oppressive and disturbing

@chimakalu41 Ай бұрын

0:28wow... That was an executive decision for tourism ?

@NellyMacharia 4 жыл бұрын

Monday is back tracking cause he is a chauvinist

@benjaminsmith2287 4 жыл бұрын

Hardened chauvinist. Fat Boy too, to me. But Fat Boy at least realizes stuff has to change. But notice how those two were laughing with each other at the end.

@tundeadebisi7294 5 ай бұрын

Not a great debate in my opinion. Lots of naivity on both side. But that last contribution got me thinking, especially when I think about it in terms of income, class, race, and every other entities that divide people

@chimakalu41 Ай бұрын

7:33 This debate is really balanced.You have both sides in full support.

@greenmountainbrownie6473 4 жыл бұрын

"Fatboy" was based and red pilled.

@vevo3130 4 жыл бұрын

Protecting them from who?? from you hahaaaaa that guy got it hahaaaa

@BosomofAbraham 4 жыл бұрын

To label all men as lustful, violent sexual fiends is wrong. But to ignore the ways that men are strongly aroused by women and allow them to show off their bodies however is also wrong. It would never be professional for men to show off their chests or wear tight fitting clothes that accented their private parts or showed off their thighs. Why do women view nakedness as freedom?

@Ngozi24 5 ай бұрын

This is sad. So basically the Ugandan government has insulted the Ugandan men by sending the message that men are such savage beast in their thoughts and actions. Therfore men can not control themselves when it comes to the Ugandan woman. Wherefore Ugandan, women cover up and protect yourself from men. This is quite disturbing. How about having stiff laws for men and women who commit sexual offenses period. If the African forefathers ( and mothes)saw their woman /men and small children with LESS attire and did NOT commit these crimes, Whats wrong with human beings of today.. What a shame.

@vickygraham2444 3 жыл бұрын

Women can have career and family. And these women as mothers need to train gender equality into their children to improve their future

@joehouston2833 2 жыл бұрын

That's why divorce is the highest in America 🤣

@django628 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, no total b.s. this is cleverly disguised colonization.

@chimakalu41 Ай бұрын

9:09 That girl stated perfectly the issues they face with men Misusing Authority positions.

@philemonpalou 7 ай бұрын

I believed in gender equality and supported my wife, she prospered in her career, the moment I left my job to start a business, meaning struggling for a year and a half without success and minimum funds, she left with my kids (less than a year into the struggle), rented a new place, excluded me althogether. Her reason was 'I.m not happy'. But we started off with her being unemplyed for a few years while I took care of everything. Thats my experience with gender equality. I'm now successful and am not willing to get back with my wife (her requests to reunite are falling on deaf ears), I'm focusing only on my children.

@jpraise6771 5 ай бұрын

Very excellent story here. I think what is needed is not a situation in the west(where in the name of personal "freedom" women have ultimately pursued themselves first and the community second) but of course not a place as potentially backwards as Uganda and the middle east. I guess portray women as protectors too? Not sure how that'd work but it's definitely better than the slop women get fed everyday in the west regarding how "their man" should be treated.

@sabri1913 5 ай бұрын

Am a woman but I support you. It’s hard for most women to still respect a man when he’s down.

@wamuciiwamucii7136 3 жыл бұрын

The male feminist is quite properly composed Women, let's look men with gratitude and rational fear*stolen* Ultimately, we all want freedom, we all want to belong

@jemimaabroquah1888 2 жыл бұрын

12:05 well spoken there’s no such thing as an “African culture “ there some Fulani tribes where women can have more than one sexual partner is that not an African culture. Cultures can easily be changed as people set cultures

@chimakalu41 Ай бұрын

2:02 I think edith feels like she already had enough of that guy

@jokiep65 2 жыл бұрын

Dear mister monday, a man can most certainly learn to do homemaking and a woman can learn to provide for the family. Open your mind, it is possible! Look how it was done in other countries and copy the good!

@jaydensmith6830 Ай бұрын

I love the interviewer. In Cameroon men think they are better than women in all domain of life.❤.Presently women are getting educated & even the female drop-outs now work harder than men.❤from Cameroon

@chimakalu41 Ай бұрын

9:52 Edith had a strong reaction to that one.Lol

@hazelmurirok Жыл бұрын

This conversation should help you understand why the dating scene is the ghetto. Do with this information what you will.

@musamanneh8939 4 ай бұрын

Edith is not fair in her judgement. She tends to be on the side of the feminist which is understandable as someone with a western mindset but Africa has it values which must be jealously guarded.

@thato596 2 ай бұрын

Exactly she has favoritism for the girls. Even in another in seirra leone or liberia she did the same thing. She is not professional

@CurlyLemongrass 9 ай бұрын

Gender equality has its Pro's and Con's...the roles between men and women here in America changing ..kinda in a bad way