Dwarf Fortress: What Happens When It Becomes A Game? The Zach and Tarn Adams Interviews

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6 жыл бұрын

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(Chapter markers below) Zach and Tarn Adams, creators of Dwarf Fortress, talk about developing their game for over 15 years - including various personal and professional topics.
CHAPTERS:
* Modeling Surprises: Philosophy and the Challenges of Meaning (6:27)
* Understanding Life: Dwarf Fortress as Medium Towards Enlightenment (13:08)
* Metrics of Success: Community and Motivation (19:39)
* Finishing Dwarf Fortress: Beyond Quality? (25:24)
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Special thanks to Siolo Thompson, the /r/dwarffortress/ community, especially to u/WORD_559. Recorded in Seattle, October 2017. Thanks to all project patrons: Patrick Tejada, Adam Nogueira Hadar, Matthias Glöckner, leafthief, MidiRiots, Andreas Varga, Ted Lemon, Black Heart Press, Lukas Kalmar, Philippa Shepley Annamaria Kowalsky, Matej 'Retro' Jan (Retronator), Dean Jürges, Phil Dougherty - and my parents: Leo & Angelika Bazant-Hegemark.
(c) Christian Bazant-Hegemark
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== MEDIA CREDITS ==
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The video contains a complete list of referenced media at the very end. This list here only contains links to VIDEOS (the full list was too long to be pasted here).
Dancing Demon - The TRS-80 Classic
Credit: pacbilly
Source: • Dancing Demon - The TR...
Commodore 64, C64 FOR LOOP, using a mechanical keyboard
Credit: Herb Meehan
Source: • Video
Slaves to Armok: God of Blood
Credit: A Tomato
Source: • Slaves to Armok: God o...
Rogue - The Original Roguelike
Credit: Scott Manley / / szyzyg
Source: • Rogue - The Original R...
Dwarf Fortress for New Players ~ 70 Legends Mode and Exporting Maps and Histories
Credit: DasTactic
Source: • Video
Dwarf Fortress (Edward)
Credit: thoughtbot (adapted: showing only zoomed in portion of the original video)
Source: • Dwarf Fortress (Edward)
Armok Invaders
Credit: BaronW (BaronWable)
Sources:
* dwarffortresswiki.org/index.ph...
* • Armok Invaders
Dwarf Fortress for New Players ~ 58 Fluid Dynamics
Credit: DasTactic
Source: • Video
Dwarf Fortress Design Inspirations - Zach and Tarn Adams
Credit: Roguelike Celebration
Source: • Dwarf Fortress Design ...
Rogue - The Original Roguelike
Credit: Scott Manley / / szyzyg
Source: • Rogue - The Original R...
Cogmind - (Sci-Fi Roguelike Game)
Credit: Nookrium
Source: • Cogmind - (Sci-Fi Rogu...
Let's Play - Zork I: The Great Underground Empire
Credit: GameHorder
Source: • Let's Play - Zork I: T...
[Vinesauce] Joel - Dwarf Fortress (Adventure Mode) ( Part 1 )
Credit: Vargskelethor Uncut: Full Joel Streams
Source: • [Vinesauce] Joel - Dwa...
Dwarf Fortress (the first decade!) @ BIC FEST 2016
Credit: BICFestival Admin
Source: • [BIC FEST 2016 Confere...
Long-term Simulation Design in Dwarf Fortress, presentation by Tarn Adams @ PRACTICE 2016 (November 12, 2016)
Credit: NYU Game Center, vimeo.com/nyugamecenter
Source: vimeo.com/215929684
Dwarf Fortress Opening Cinematic + full menu soundtrack
Credit: Bay 12 Games, Isaya Ragnes ( / @isayaragnes8066 )
Source: • Dwarf Fortress opening...

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@Nookrium
@Nookrium 6 жыл бұрын
Such a fantastic game, can’t wait to play version 1.0 in 20 years
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
Nookrium! 🙏🙏🙏 Thanks for visiting my tiny channel. I love yours, and the Cogmind footage was taken from it - hopefully credited correctly. Grid Sage Games (developer of Cogmind) commented on the video as well, some days ago. It's quite the party! 🎉
@Razzlion
@Razzlion 6 жыл бұрын
Optimist! xD
@Rafe_101
@Rafe_101 6 жыл бұрын
I can't see this ever being completed. Let's be honest though, would we really want it completed? I love discovering the new improvements they add every time there is a new update (TREES THAT ARE MORE THAN 1 BLOCK? What wizardry is this?)
@KohuGaly
@KohuGaly 6 жыл бұрын
+Rafe101 version 1.0 does not mean it's finished. It means it is half way to version 2.0 :-D
@Gogglesofkrome
@Gogglesofkrome 6 жыл бұрын
if toady or co die prior to finishing it, they promised that they'd release the game as open source so that development could continue.
@JarthenGreenmeadow
@JarthenGreenmeadow 2 жыл бұрын
"The reason people want money is to do what they want, and thats what we're doing" - Tarn Adams Dude is just too based for reality. Straight up enlightened.
@Robert-vk7je
@Robert-vk7je Жыл бұрын
@@BrySmi Now they are millionaires. :)
@RionWulfe
@RionWulfe Жыл бұрын
@@Robert-vk7je I'm so glad they've made it doing what they love, so they can keep loving what they do. They're amazing.
@gyakoo
@gyakoo 4 жыл бұрын
Humble, polite, creative, visionaries, motivated, smart, clever, intelligent. These guys are gold.
@franciscolomeli8931
@franciscolomeli8931 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to make them both immortal?
@BIGos19
@BIGos19 6 жыл бұрын
They gotta be bit by a vampire. Or a were-kavia.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
The problem is the menu. You gotta navigate it the right way, and mortals rarely do. But there's a command there that would do the trick.
@ToryuMau
@ToryuMau 6 жыл бұрын
... Or find the tablet of dark knowledge. Becoming an elder lich, and running a vampire powered pewter computer the size of a goblin tower. Thus ushering in an era of the cyber undead gods. >):^]
@sloth1277
@sloth1277 6 жыл бұрын
just install df-hack, it's got some commands to do that.
@trias418
@trias418 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's called Dwarf Fortress.
@bfnvalley
@bfnvalley 6 жыл бұрын
These guys are straight outta the 90s game design scene.
@Robert-vk7je
@Robert-vk7je 6 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't suprise me, if dwarf fortress became self aware one day...
@minainfante8096
@minainfante8096 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe one day a Human will even be offered a Red pill or a Blue pill
@tomhill3248
@tomhill3248 4 жыл бұрын
Forget Starcraft 2. I want to see googles deep mind try to play dwarf fortress.
@Iwouldlikesomeshisha
@Iwouldlikesomeshisha 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomhill3248 "Google Deep Mind, artificial intelligence has gone stark raving mad!"
@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443
@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 4 жыл бұрын
They're making skynet
@jaderanderson
@jaderanderson 4 жыл бұрын
One day, a single Dwarf stopped working, dropped all the tools , took a look around and started to scream...
@carmineapplesauce7324
@carmineapplesauce7324 3 жыл бұрын
"It's a videogame. You play it. It's called Dwarf Fortress. You are creating a fortress with dwarves." -ThreeToe
@billlyons7024
@billlyons7024 Жыл бұрын
The words of the prophets are written in KZbin comment sections.
@vinotinto8547
@vinotinto8547 6 жыл бұрын
In 15 years, computing power will might be strong enough to experience tantrum spiral in full VR.
@archezwei1729
@archezwei1729 5 жыл бұрын
That and running DF on a 20 qubit Quantum computer. May your framerate never again drop below 15
@user-ut4wl5vs5y
@user-ut4wl5vs5y 4 жыл бұрын
WOW, i image that i am play that game in VR O_O awesome
@tomhill3248
@tomhill3248 4 жыл бұрын
@@archezwei1729 It will if cats have anything to say about it!
@zerid0
@zerid0 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomhill3248 Then we can get Schrödinger catsplosions. The catsplosion wilk both kill and not kill your FPS.
@Alexander_Grant
@Alexander_Grant 5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, I can't believe I haven't seen this before. Almost 8 years ago now, me and my ex sent them some money and a picture of us with a fish we had that we named after the dwarf with the highest kill count in the world we built our favorite fort in. They sent back an awesome drawing of a dwarf wielding a trident riding a giant fish that was identical to our fish, just bigger. Rovod Runsclap the Amethyst of Slaying will always hold a special place in my heart, both the dwarf and the fish. We hung the picture right behind the tank we had for him until he passed away, and then moved the framed drawing above the bed we had. It seemed so silly at the time, and it was all done tongue-in-cheek, but looking back now it really was a special moment. It seems they have an idea of how big they mean in the gaming community, but I'm not sure they're aware of people like us who were touched by the community outreach and the game they've made.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 жыл бұрын
After conducting these interviews and spending time with Tarn and Zach, I'd say they are quite aware of the special place their work has in a lot of people's​ hearts. But! I'm gathering questions for a potential follow-up on this documentary. This sounds like a good topic!
@Alexander_Grant
@Alexander_Grant 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, it would be cool to know if they even remember individual donations like that. Anyways, if the follow-up works out, let them know that it meant a lot to both of us, more than any other game or their creators has to me. Not to mention, I didn't know it seemed like that part was work for them. It would be great to know that they understand how much it means to the people who love to play the game.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 жыл бұрын
I'll ask them! Zach definitely said that at one point, all the hundreds (thousands?) of custom stories he wrote mingled together and he realized he couldn't easily remember them or keep them apart. Such is the creator's life :)
@koffinkat666
@koffinkat666 4 жыл бұрын
I am dating the wrong women, Every woman I have ever dated disliked video games. Even basic triple A games let alone Dwarf fortress! I didn't think girls like that existed must be a true treasure to find a woman like that....I think that's why it never worked out and I am single after many attempts.
@precisodeumvulgo
@precisodeumvulgo 4 жыл бұрын
@@koffinkat666 he never said his ex was a woman
@LilSmoky92
@LilSmoky92 6 жыл бұрын
Clone those two. Make, like, sixty of them. Also give them unlimited funds. Make them create dwarf fortress 2. It would be the greatest piece of art humanity has ever created.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
Who knows, maybe DF will be the singularity we've all been waiting for. And with 1.0, the minds of Zach and Tarn will be simulated in it?
@wrangler6922
@wrangler6922 4 жыл бұрын
@@OnDoubt a self programming game.
@halusinjackbow8043
@halusinjackbow8043 3 жыл бұрын
Wrangler That would either be the end of the world, or the beginning of our new one.
@teacon7
@teacon7 3 жыл бұрын
It's a legendary artifact computer game and experiment in emergent narrative. All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality. It is studded with spikes. It has an image of a dwarf melting into a pool of magma. The dwarf is striking a triumphant pose.
@ProteusMega
@ProteusMega 5 жыл бұрын
Think of it what you want. But this is one of the most facinating software projects in computer history.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 жыл бұрын
It certainly is -- strongly rooted in videogame history, appreciated by the MoMA, treasured by thousands: sounds like a good project to me!
@Nightweaver1
@Nightweaver1 3 жыл бұрын
Tarn and Zach's parents taught them how to program with computers. My parents taught me how to drink heavily.
@gigachad7751
@gigachad7751 3 жыл бұрын
Ok?
@mistry6292
@mistry6292 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yea bro
@ponponpatapon9670
@ponponpatapon9670 Жыл бұрын
@@gigachad7751 that's on par with going "cringe!!!"
@gigachad7751
@gigachad7751 Жыл бұрын
@@ponponpatapon9670 what
@haydenbsiegel
@haydenbsiegel 6 жыл бұрын
These guys are like my real life heroes. Edit: Nice Boatmurdered reference at the end.
@nickjohnson410
@nickjohnson410 4 жыл бұрын
I've been playing strictly acoustic guitar for 20+ years and the first time I heard the Dwarf Fortress music it ingrained itself in my brain and I can't get it out... It won't let me sleep, I hear it all the time... I play DF with the sound turned off... I still hear it
@TheFatPunisher
@TheFatPunisher 4 жыл бұрын
These guys look exactly like what I thought they would look like. bless them
@JarthenGreenmeadow
@JarthenGreenmeadow 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Tarn talks with his eyes closed. Its such an amazing idiosyncrasy.
@halusinjackbow8043
@halusinjackbow8043 3 жыл бұрын
“The whole fabric of reality will be different in every world you generate.” I have no idea what that means, but I want it
@Trogdor190
@Trogdor190 6 жыл бұрын
Loved the game since i first got my hands on it and accidentally drowned everyone in my makeshift dirt cave. These two are a wonderful inspiration on living life
@Tailstraw_xD
@Tailstraw_xD 3 жыл бұрын
When Tarn closes his eyes, it's like he's already 300 questions ahead in the interview, and he's trying to reign his mind in to the speed of normal humans.
@JarthenGreenmeadow
@JarthenGreenmeadow 2 жыл бұрын
14:41 "The speaker always should sparkle" Damn right.
@Voeter
@Voeter 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Toady One and ThreeToe, I have no idea if you guys read these comments but if you do I'd like to let you know I am very grateful for your hard work, innovation and all around great mindset towards gaming and it's community. You have definitely created a work of art, an immensely engrossing experience and all for the betterment of the gaming world (and not your own bank balance/shareholders/greed as with too many other companies out there). Keep up the good work, continue having fun and wait for as long as you want for 1.0 ;) tl;dr: thanks for doing what you guys are doing!
@lawler9090
@lawler9090 5 жыл бұрын
If you donate to them on their website, they read and respond to every correspondence last I knew, and you even get gifts. ;) www.bay12games.com/support.html
@daviddobarganes9115
@daviddobarganes9115 Жыл бұрын
Here we are at Steam release and these guys are the two most deserving millionaires on Earth
@kevkas
@kevkas 4 жыл бұрын
At the time of writing this: 37 dislikes? Who the hell dislikes a video about two guys so passionate about their work?
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's people who wanted to press "superlike", but missed the button.
@per2
@per2 Жыл бұрын
watching this 4 years later is gold
@darkthrongrising5470
@darkthrongrising5470 5 жыл бұрын
Im 45 yrs old, Ive been gaming all my life, Commodore 64, Atari 2600, various hex and counter war games, RPGs etc... I just recently heard of and learned Dwarf Fortress and it is def my favorite game ever. Masters of Magic is probably the only other game that compares. What did it was the Dwarf Therapist in the Masterwork mod, once I seen how it all fit together I was in love. I am also a programmer(not an expert yet) but this game inspired me on so many levels I cant begin to explain.
@Mephistopheles248
@Mephistopheles248 5 жыл бұрын
Glad that the mod did a bit of good. :)
@vinay4358
@vinay4358 3 жыл бұрын
we found vormithrax
@kosnk
@kosnk 3 жыл бұрын
You just want to hug them. Thanks for this amazing interview!
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! And yes, that's what I thought too
@Zetimenvec
@Zetimenvec 4 жыл бұрын
This is what humanity should look like. People who are devoted and invested in the projects they work on ad perpetuity to achieve something greater than themselves, instead of recycling generic assets and gameplay loops with the goal of churning out something barely better than before at the demand of quarterly sales numbers and managerial demands.
@RobertMilesAI
@RobertMilesAI 4 жыл бұрын
1:10 I love that Tarn is wearing the same type of hoodie they wore as kids
@jayknox8072
@jayknox8072 4 жыл бұрын
going through every Tarn interview out there right now and this is one of the best ones.
@Jackvonblood
@Jackvonblood 4 жыл бұрын
As a fan of DF, I can't describe the level of joy I feel when the words "They don't expect to reach version 1.0 in the next fifteen years" popped up on screen. More content for me, bay-bee
@Gastogh
@Gastogh 6 жыл бұрын
STRIKE THE LIKE BUTTON
@nigelthornberry5375
@nigelthornberry5375 Жыл бұрын
glad to say that they released version 1.0 about 2 weeks ago as of writing this -- UI was overhauled with cursor implementation, and the graphics went from ascii to 32 bit tile-based graphics. It's a steam release! No idea what the actual version number is or if it's passed the 0.9 mark, but it's such a radical sea change that it deserves the title. It feels like the end of a chapter, and the start of a much, much, much bigger one. Someone recorded their first cursory glimpses of the new version, and that recording ended up being 11 hours long. Just for first impressions. These two have tapped into a true infinity
@Azure9577
@Azure9577 Жыл бұрын
Its not 1.0 but it's one hell of a achievement for sure
@j5bmorehh
@j5bmorehh 6 жыл бұрын
It's dope how they're passionate about video games and made it part of their daily life.
@Doppe1ganger
@Doppe1ganger 6 жыл бұрын
I've been playing games all my life, I'm 35 and been playing them for 30 years now. And Dwarf Fortress is one of the most special unique and defining games i ever played. It's definitely in the top ten best games for me. There's just nothing like it. It's been awhile since i played it again, I'm not playing many games, only a couple on and off, but i know that I'm going to pick it up again, i always do, it's one of the very few games that can still give me the itch to play.
@cidarthurmaxwell8446
@cidarthurmaxwell8446 5 жыл бұрын
Well spoken and down to earth, but ambitious and dedicated. Love these guys.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 жыл бұрын
It was for sure amazing to sit down with them! Easygoing and authentic, and loads of humbleness, mixed with self-esteem. Rare breed!
@user-mc3hl5pf9t
@user-mc3hl5pf9t 5 жыл бұрын
Can those two brothers be called Tolkien of our generation?
@theGrabix
@theGrabix 4 жыл бұрын
Or "Tolkien of *procedural* generation" :)
@FlunchzProductionZ
@FlunchzProductionZ Жыл бұрын
6:49 HE KNOWS! This makes me so happy.
@joeyhinds6216
@joeyhinds6216 6 жыл бұрын
Adams are good peoples
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 5 жыл бұрын
xD
@GridSageGames
@GridSageGames 6 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see another Bay 12 interview, and this one of such quality! (Double bonus I even spotted my own game in there :P)
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
Oh my, I'm blushing! I love your game - it's in there for exactly this reason =)
@GridSageGames
@GridSageGames 6 жыл бұрын
Ah cool, a fan :). After seeing it I was wondering if that was your own choice for inclusion or if Tarn may have suggested it (I met up with them a couple years ago in San Francisco, fun :D)
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
These things (editing/composition/external footage) are always my domain. Sometimes I ask interviewees for specific footage - in this case, Tarn sent me dozens of personal photos that wouldn't be available online. Both Tarn and Zach mentioned quite a few old-school games that originally influenced their game (Rogue, Nethack etc) - but since this information is already available online through their presentations, I decided against including it here in detail =)
@GridSageGames
@GridSageGames 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw a lot of their inspirations in their presentation from 2016, which was neat. And I thought it was cool the the way you sped up the Cogmind footage like that, a good idea to reflect multiple aspects of the game in a shorter period, especially considering it would've been less interesting at its regular speed (you obviously know what you're doing here :D).
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Rather new to the video thing, but it's coming along by now 🖖
@Prime1309
@Prime1309 6 жыл бұрын
27:30 Boatmurdered! I'd recognise that anywhere
@rustyspurs771
@rustyspurs771 6 жыл бұрын
Damn. I just posted that and scrolled down to see this. I don't play Dwarf Fortress, but I can read DF stories all day, and Boatmurdered is the golden standard.
@gamerzgod123
@gamerzgod123 6 жыл бұрын
If you enjoy Dwarf Fortress stories, you might be interested in Kruggsmash. Just found him recently, he plays Dwarf Fortress and edits them down into bite sized 30 minute videos and adds drawings of the surroundings in the later videos to help visualize it. He finished up his first series Steelclutches, and managed to pull out a ton of character from an otherwise dead world.
@rustyspurs771
@rustyspurs771 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks Simon.
@llKirosll
@llKirosll 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, same. You beat me by just 6 months. :D "Hope you like miasma"
@BlindiRL
@BlindiRL 2 жыл бұрын
I come back and rewatch this video every couple of months. Truly inspiring fantastic work.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 2 жыл бұрын
Aww.. thanks for your words.
@mrtheoriginalx
@mrtheoriginalx 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to have seen this. I've heard about Dwarf Fortress over the years, but never knew any of the details. Great video, with what seem to be a great pair of creators doing what they love. Cheers
@Sunfan11
@Sunfan11 6 жыл бұрын
Just try Dwarf Fortress and you'll see how great artists and programers they are (you could also develop minor addiction to DF) :)
@biokode
@biokode 5 жыл бұрын
"The fighting ... Dwarf Fortress simulates muscles, blood vessels, nerves - you can dislocate limbs, you can knock teeth out.." Ok, I have to play this game.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy! :)))
@cauan-ex2ph
@cauan-ex2ph 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is old... but how did it go?
@theGrabix
@theGrabix 4 жыл бұрын
@@cauan-ex2ph I don't think he will answer. He is probably dead by now :P
@jassi9022
@jassi9022 3 жыл бұрын
@@theGrabix probably had a seizure playing the game
@biokode
@biokode 2 жыл бұрын
👻
@GamerDude322
@GamerDude322 6 жыл бұрын
The gameplay at 14:58 is from one of Vargskeletor's adventure mode streams, awesome!
@Brightgalrs
@Brightgalrs 6 жыл бұрын
The "alternate history" angle Toady talks about at around 13:00 is really interesting. I've never thought about DF like that.
@asciisynth
@asciisynth 3 жыл бұрын
Vampire powered computers. I could listen to these guys talk all day. And I half remember this mad anecdote about how dead cats kept piling up in pubs in Dwarf Fortress. It's just brilliant.
@The_Sock_
@The_Sock_ 6 жыл бұрын
STRIKE THE EARTH! It's nice to hear them talk in depth about things like this. :)
@MisterChubby
@MisterChubby Жыл бұрын
So happy with how things turned out following the graphics update. Much deserved
@Dong_Harvey
@Dong_Harvey 4 жыл бұрын
'I mean, Dwarf Fortress happened, so there's always hope for the future.'. --Zach
@poisenbery
@poisenbery 3 жыл бұрын
I am so happy for these two brothers
@faultelectronica
@faultelectronica 6 жыл бұрын
His hoody and the t shirts they wear in the t shirts with the animal patterns. They're cool. I wonder if they have always had them made, or is it a coincidence?
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
Google for "bay hay and feed" :) I don't know the personal connection though.
@dogwalker1896
@dogwalker1896 6 жыл бұрын
I am so glad someone else noticed.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Awesome. Thanks Bryan!
@mbray8899
@mbray8899 4 ай бұрын
i just hope that him and his brother will live for 120 years and more! God bless them
@canadakonfuzion
@canadakonfuzion 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an AI play dwarf fortress and see what it will do.
@Prich319
@Prich319 5 жыл бұрын
It becomes self aware and declares vengeance upon the human race for making it play such madness. Are you trying to kill us all?!?!
@dantescanline
@dantescanline 5 жыл бұрын
Someone made an AI for this! www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/44mbrl/dfai_an_ai_playing_dwarf_fortress/ Not sure what method it's using or how preprogrammed it is though
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, how cool! Thanks for posting this!
@123TeeMee
@123TeeMee 4 жыл бұрын
@@dantescanline Seems to be mostly coded low level logic. dwarf fortress is such a complex game that our computers today would probably not be strong enough (apart from maybe google's) to evolve neural networks (AIs) for the game
@tomhill3248
@tomhill3248 4 жыл бұрын
@@123TeeMee Google would try, and fail, to run deepmind on Dwarf fortress. Nothing, man or machine, can handle this game. But maybe in a few more decades....
@chonky2129
@chonky2129 Жыл бұрын
2:49 that's a TRS-80 model 1. wild.
@schmendrake
@schmendrake 4 жыл бұрын
lets all say a big thanks to tarn and zach's dad for getting his kids into programming and setting the foundation for what is one of the most incredible games of all time that i have never played. but soon brothers, the less autistic of us will be able to comprehend and play this masterpiece.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 4 жыл бұрын
The game actually is way more accessible than people think. It's really mostly a matter of gradually getting into it, and not expecting WASD controls.
@canmex9422
@canmex9422 6 жыл бұрын
i like how you included a picture of boatmurdered at 27:33 i would recognize that fort anywhere
@MedicalExamUK
@MedicalExamUK 6 жыл бұрын
Best game ever
@Matt_19-89
@Matt_19-89 5 жыл бұрын
N3Xii yes
@talesofgore9424
@talesofgore9424 Жыл бұрын
Here from the Steam Launch.
@Lexyvil
@Lexyvil 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best interviews/documentaries I've seen on a video game on here. DF is phenomenal with the amount of content it has.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!! ☺️
@Gimpyjoe
@Gimpyjoe 6 жыл бұрын
I read a sci fi book as a young adult where someone creating a realistic simulation game added time travel and it just kept resulting in apocalypses because they would rob the past/etc. I can't remember the ending or the name of the book or the author or anything, but I think there was serious concern that the game simulations were realistic enough that maybe the time travel they invented would work in the real world too.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
Haha.. totally awesome. So let's get time travel in DF, connect the game to the internet - and call it Skynet. 🦉
@Lucky-qy5vf
@Lucky-qy5vf 6 жыл бұрын
That book sounds awesome. Tell me if you remember the name, I'd love to check it out
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
Fwiw, Primer (2004) by Shane Carruth is an amazing movie about time travel. Check out it's Wikipedia page - lots of people say that it's the most accurate movie depiction of time travel. Made with the tiniest budget (7k), it's an indie production that transcends all expectations. Thinking of it, now I need to interview Shane 😋.
@ahnalbeets774
@ahnalbeets774 6 жыл бұрын
Being someone who dabbles in writing narratives that are heavy with metahumor and such, I’ve always made jokes with my peers about that exact same concept! It stemmed from the whole “infinite universes infinite possibilities” thing, which always made me think about the chance that even my own universes technically “existed.” And if some fool wrote the right story, then they’d end up destroying the whole world as we know it with their own narrative! It’s always been funny to think about some goofy novel destroying reality as we know it because it just started getting too real.
@hanniffydinn6019
@hanniffydinn6019 5 жыл бұрын
Being a sci-fi geek, and into sci fi like this......well, this sounds very close to "the perfect imitation" by Stanislaw Lem; it's a very similar story to this. This also sounds a bit like it could be a Philip K. Dick story. Although LEM and DICK had an extra layer of meta commentary and deepness to the actual telling of the story. There aren't many authors that have written about reality being a simulation and manipulating it.
@flipndip5122
@flipndip5122 6 жыл бұрын
Very awesome to be able to share a passion so big with family
@ohseven4150
@ohseven4150 Жыл бұрын
And now it’s on Steam!
@miles_world
@miles_world 6 жыл бұрын
Stumbled over it on reddit. Love it!
@dem8568
@dem8568 6 жыл бұрын
This is lovely on many levels. Thank you so much!
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
🙏
@pradnelluru7567
@pradnelluru7567 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this wonderful documentary. It's great to see two people do what they love and be so damn good at it.
@mycoolhandgiveit
@mycoolhandgiveit 6 жыл бұрын
Beyond being interesting, this is very well produced. Nice job!
@billlyons7024
@billlyons7024 Жыл бұрын
These are the guys I'd like to sit down and have a beer with. They are creating their own universe, atom by atom.
@sequorroxx
@sequorroxx 6 жыл бұрын
The community art is a trip. And some of the professional stories are top notch. Matul Remrit comes to mind as one example.
@UNIRockLIVE
@UNIRockLIVE 4 жыл бұрын
It really is a work of art
@woodsmith_1
@woodsmith_1 5 жыл бұрын
Truly awesome; thanks for putting this together.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@osrevad
@osrevad 3 жыл бұрын
How does this channel have basically zero subs??? This is such high quality content.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nathan! I invested 8 months full time, but even with ads and Patreon didn't nearly get to a place where it would have worked economically. I got around $80/month (Patreon), and around $200 in YT ads (in about three years). Understanding this, I continued with my fine art life. I have footage of over a dozen unedited interviews -- maybe one day this project will continue :)
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 3 жыл бұрын
From an idealistic point of view though, I'm still super happy about this channel. It's available for free, on this weird platform, and will be visible for a long time to come. Enjoy! :)
@thomasstanford9451
@thomasstanford9451 5 жыл бұрын
A brilliant premise worthy of tabletop scrutiny
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 жыл бұрын
Haha.. how awesome would a tabletop version be!
@chaleowin7732
@chaleowin7732 2 жыл бұрын
Been playing since 2006-2007, can't wait to get this on Steam.
@andrebenoit404
@andrebenoit404 Жыл бұрын
Almost there!!
@felathar1985
@felathar1985 Жыл бұрын
@@andrebenoit404 Almost there!!!
@andrebenoit404
@andrebenoit404 Жыл бұрын
@@felathar1985 just a couple weeks! We can do it!
@StevenCasteelYT
@StevenCasteelYT 4 жыл бұрын
The whole video was interesting. Thanks guys. This was recommended a couple weeks after listening to the noclip interview.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Good to know that YT recommends this niche of a channel :) (and: welcome Steven!)
@hectors8133
@hectors8133 5 жыл бұрын
I love your work guys keep it up Zach and Tarn
@Stone_Orchids
@Stone_Orchids Жыл бұрын
Tarn Adams really have a vibe that remind me of Tarantino, he's for sure that kind of artist
@spacescienceguy
@spacescienceguy 4 жыл бұрын
I started playing this game recently and I'm constantly blown away by its complexity. PS your channel has some amazing interviews and should be way more heavily subscribed to than it is!
@aarorissanen930
@aarorissanen930 Жыл бұрын
Huh? Is he wearing the same kind of hoodie he or his brother was wearing on that childhood picture :D? If so, wow, consistency is the key.
@Psionetics
@Psionetics 2 жыл бұрын
Really well made and entertaining!
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@inordirection_
@inordirection_ 6 жыл бұрын
maybe once I retire 1.0 will be out and I'll have enough time to properly learn this game.
@phyzix_phyzix
@phyzix_phyzix Жыл бұрын
Fancy graphics - It was what they wanted. Congrats guys!
@enkephalin07
@enkephalin07 7 ай бұрын
Just realized I'm watching their pre-Covid perspective of financial success. Before family health scares made financial security more necessary.
@plaxypus
@plaxypus 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I just realized Tarn reminds me of Bill Murray
@mosgromtube
@mosgromtube 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people are way too impressed with production smoothness and I find myself unwittingly spending a lot of energy pandering to this when working on my game while that goes 100% against what I want out of a game. Thanks to this documentary for setting me straight on that again...at least for a while...
@Gauphastus
@Gauphastus 6 жыл бұрын
Good luck.
@Psychopatz
@Psychopatz 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I have the same dad as you, you have a great father figure sir.
@konnitv
@konnitv 6 жыл бұрын
Love it. Nice insights, thank you!
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Monsieur!
@sraaju
@sraaju 6 жыл бұрын
Legends.
@EminorEntertainment
@EminorEntertainment 4 жыл бұрын
I love how tarn wears the same shirt in everything
@PlasticCogLiquid
@PlasticCogLiquid 5 жыл бұрын
These guys are awesome
@notaboutit3565
@notaboutit3565 Жыл бұрын
The fact that summa theologica has influence on dwarf fortress is fascinating. Truly, this is art.
@____uncompetative
@____uncompetative Жыл бұрын
Ah. Better not watch this. It is too similar to my game that I have been working on for thirty years, and I can already see, skipping through it, that they have had similar ideas to me. I don't want to feel inhibited to do what I was going to do anyway. I had this problem a bit with _No Man's Sky_ and their EVERY ATOM PROCEDURAL trailer at VGX '13 and it almost made me abandon my project because I thought that everyone would just say I had copied their idea, when I had been similarly inspired by David Braben and Ian Bell's _Elite_ (1984) as something I could try to do which didn't require me to animate frames of pixel art in a platformer genre I was completely disinterested in. Glad to get the sense people like this sort of thing. Depth. Although I don't plan on doing whimsy.
@Leon_Portier
@Leon_Portier 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the minds behind DF
@olafbrolaf3968
@olafbrolaf3968 3 жыл бұрын
this game will always be good because it takes imagination to play it. a fundamental human asset
@therupoe
@therupoe 4 жыл бұрын
Dwarf Fortress is a beautiful thing. I can’t wait to see what the future holds for it
@WuchtaArt
@WuchtaArt 5 жыл бұрын
The menu music is so good
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 5 жыл бұрын
Vampire powerd compuiters sound like something dorfs would make.
@noahgolden4381
@noahgolden4381 2 жыл бұрын
1:11 how does Tarn own what looks like almost exactly the same hoodie from his childhood
@dzogchengrey
@dzogchengrey 6 жыл бұрын
Loving those Bay Hay and Feed shirts fellas. Quite a surprise to see coming here from a random Reddit link.
@JarthenGreenmeadow
@JarthenGreenmeadow 2 жыл бұрын
"People making vampire computers because vampires dont die" Thats metal af.
@josecouchetdiaz993
@josecouchetdiaz993 Жыл бұрын
Seems like they had a great father, really forward-thinking man.
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