Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 1 | Daniel Barenboim, Gustavo Dudamel & the Staatskapelle Berlin

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@nshopov
@nshopov 8 күн бұрын
Daniel Barenboim adds next level to each Piano concert he performs!
@beatrizherrera8533
@beatrizherrera8533 Ай бұрын
Daniel Barenboim ,gran director de orquesta, un luchador incansable por la Paz ,creó una orquesta de Palestinos e Israelíes sus armas son las notas musicales . Toda mi admiración¡¡ Maestro!!!
@fajung2005
@fajung2005 Ай бұрын
Maestro Barenboim is a genius. A privileged brain and a privileged soul. May his music continue for many more years to come. Thank you, Maestro.
@eliebouroufail7107
@eliebouroufail7107 Ай бұрын
Barenboim makes difficult music accessible to me. Whenever he conducts, plays, or comments on a piece, he brings it down for me from its pedestal. I can taste it at last. Forever grateful
@johnnyz4427
@johnnyz4427 2 ай бұрын
One of the best performances of the Brahms piano concerto #1 nowadays. The spirit of Brahms is well presented and heard, which is lacking if not gone amongst young pianists.
@tatjanamarinkovic43
@tatjanamarinkovic43 2 ай бұрын
Maestro Barenboim, the living god of both Beethoven and Brahms 🎹concertos; his performance of cadenzas is sublime ❤
@jakeplonk888
@jakeplonk888 2 ай бұрын
Can’t say the same about Dudamel and his impotent left hand though
@thegreenpianoman3477
@thegreenpianoman3477 Ай бұрын
@@jakeplonk888i mean dudamel is a much better and meaningful musician than barenboim, so i dont get the reason why anyone cares about his left hand.
@optimist8357
@optimist8357 Ай бұрын
Закрываешь глаза и погружаешься в мир иной, какой он богатый, разный и прекрасный. Огромное спасибо композитору и исполнителям за это путешествие!
@alexandereudean487
@alexandereudean487 13 күн бұрын
The play is very brilliant and the orchestra shed the light of their presence on it. There ara many princes in the orchestra but there's only one Barenboim. I feel his play as if he's adapting a quotation from the Bible. In any case, the way they play gives me a grand pleasant twinge. The play is performed with unusual perfection, and I feel an exquisite beauty of such sounds! Bravissimo!
@muslit
@muslit 2 ай бұрын
The rage in the first movement is completely transformed by the end of the third movement into complete joy. It's a miracle on Brahms's part, and Barenboim pulls it off in this performance. Simply wonderful.
@anaconrad9423
@anaconrad9423 8 күн бұрын
Entre el romanticismo profundo de Brahms y la pasión de 2 latino-americanos, me deshago de emoción liberadora. Muchas gracias x este magnífico regalo. ❤
@DWClassicalMusic
@DWClassicalMusic 8 күн бұрын
Con mucho gusto! 💕
@shin-i-chikozima
@shin-i-chikozima Ай бұрын
Attraction of this wonderful performance is profound and immeasurable and off the charts I am only intoxicated with this graceful performance
@aidanrossiter3295
@aidanrossiter3295 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful pairing of musicians for a most musical performance. Tempi were perfect, balance just right, emotions controlled. Thank you so much I'll come back to this again and again.
@phillipwebb6604
@phillipwebb6604 2 ай бұрын
This is my favorite of the two. Beautiful performance here by Dudamel and Barenboim.
@vavilovasvetlana9044
@vavilovasvetlana9044 2 ай бұрын
Huge thanks that have to listen this such famous concerto by Brahms.
@paules3437
@paules3437 Ай бұрын
Remember the first time you came across this concerto? I do. A hs freshman taking advantage of our school's record library/listening room. Thrilled beyond belief upon hearing it.
@c0r1nth14n_
@c0r1nth14n_ Ай бұрын
Yes, spring time and I was listening to the 3rd movement over and over.
@jonathantack4699
@jonathantack4699 Ай бұрын
yes, freshman in high school, Time Life LP record, Great men of Music. love at first listen
@paules3437
@paules3437 Ай бұрын
@@jonathantack4699 Kewl!
@jefolson6989
@jefolson6989 18 күн бұрын
I remember being reduced to a blubbering pile of tears by the 2nd movement. Still has a profound effect. Brahms is one that you cant fully appreciate until you are older . Then it all makes sense
@bobharbert1844
@bobharbert1844 Ай бұрын
What an absolutely amazing performance! I don't believe I've ever heard it played with such beauty and grace! Bravo!!
@DWClassicalMusic
@DWClassicalMusic Ай бұрын
We're glad you enjoyed it! 🥰
@MerkanoDeutschland
@MerkanoDeutschland Ай бұрын
The sound of the orchestra was so sophisticated and in perfect harmony with Barenboim… Dudamel is really a genius and Barenboim a great interpreter of this piano concerto…
@im_lopez
@im_lopez 2 ай бұрын
This duo 🤌🤌🤌
@ruzicalilic4933
@ruzicalilic4933 2 ай бұрын
Wow! What a performance. Stunning. ❤❤❤
@raquelleal5065
@raquelleal5065 17 күн бұрын
Dos hispanos juntos interpretando a mi alemán favorito ,sin olvidarnos de Bach y Beethoven , gracias mil
@jonasthequte_ninevite
@jonasthequte_ninevite 2 ай бұрын
the long wait is over! thank you DW❤
@DWClassicalMusic
@DWClassicalMusic 2 ай бұрын
You're more than welcome, we're glad you enjoyed it! 💕
@thepianocornertpc
@thepianocornertpc 15 күн бұрын
Most beautiful Concerto.
@LChecheroni
@LChecheroni 2 ай бұрын
el final del segundo movimiento es realmente conmovedor; como el timbal acompaña el último suspiro de las cuerdas para preparar un pequeño crescendo opacado. Es hermoso!!
@alastairboles4437
@alastairboles4437 Күн бұрын
Very masterly performance, dazzling, a higher level
@francesbrock8862
@francesbrock8862 2 ай бұрын
How wonderful to hear a performance of this marvellous work that doesn't prioritise speed above articulation. So much detail and sensitive phrasing here, so often masked by an emphasis on technological pyrotechnics by younger virtuosi - ah, the wisdom of age!❤
@gloriacastillo4970
@gloriacastillo4970 Ай бұрын
Para mí Barenboin es un excelente director y pianista!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@krishnansrinivasan830
@krishnansrinivasan830 2 ай бұрын
Words feel short to explain the wonder I experienced ! Spectacular Performance !
@mariawimmer4541
@mariawimmer4541 2 ай бұрын
Prachtvoll. Machtvoll. Wissend um jedes Detail. Aus der Gesamtheit des Werkes heraus gespielt. Barenboim eben!
@tomrockhill8634
@tomrockhill8634 Ай бұрын
That second movement is a marvelous slow burn ❤️👍. The Mahler Adagietto of Great Piano Concerto movements😁
@Dennie-g2t
@Dennie-g2t Ай бұрын
Wow. What a wonderful piece of music. Spectacular performance ! ❤
@chriso9338
@chriso9338 Ай бұрын
Ayant une profonde admiration pour le Maître Daniel BAREMBOIM depuis plus 50 ans possédant quasiment tout les enregistrements je reste et resterais admiratif Pour le jeune chef d orchestre très très prometteur un immense talent qu il continue comme ça il ira très loin d ailleur c est l un des meilleurs actuellement
@tammoton9494
@tammoton9494 Ай бұрын
Dudamel n'est plus tout jeune, et très populaire depuis une dizaine d'années.
@MTMF.london
@MTMF.london Ай бұрын
Dudamel is more than a "very promising young conductor" - he has been the conductor/music director of the Simon Bolivar Symphony Orchestra and was appointed Music Director of the Los Angeles Philamonic Orchestra in 2009 when he was 27 years old. He is set to take over at the New York Philamonic in 2026.
@joannabose7299
@joannabose7299 Ай бұрын
Mais écoutez Trifonov avec Klaus Makela! Là il y a une énergie incroyable. Trifonov donne une interprétation subtile et fine.The energy of Youth and Vibrance is in those 2 young men. The new generation.
@chriso9338
@chriso9338 Ай бұрын
@@tammoton9494 oui tout à fait d'accord avec toi je l avais découvert en 2012 mais pour moi étant d une vieille génération proche des 67 ans il me paraît encore très jeune
@gedakhatutskaya3064
@gedakhatutskaya3064 Ай бұрын
Maestro Barenboim is genius!!!❤
@clementreid907
@clementreid907 24 күн бұрын
Such superb musicians, amazing!
@FunnySalmon-qc9wu
@FunnySalmon-qc9wu Ай бұрын
I love his attacks on the piano , you can tell he knows every instrument part in this composition. And as he set still . He is listening to the orchestra individual parts . And good musicianship with the conductor. ❤❤❤. I love Claudio also . I wish Martha Argerich would play this .❤❤❤ the poor piano would be devastated 😂😂😂
@dizue
@dizue Ай бұрын
This is easily my favorite version, wow
@elentok2225
@elentok2225 2 ай бұрын
Bravo!!! ❤️🌹👏🏼
@HarrisKehrmann
@HarrisKehrmann 2 ай бұрын
Merci beaucoup and mazel tov!! 💖
@mohammadkarimipoor3121
@mohammadkarimipoor3121 8 күн бұрын
A mon avis trois concertos pour piano ont les ouvertures éminent ,concerto no 4 et5 de Betoovn et ce concerto de Brams , commencement magnifique , plein de joie avec une molodi brillante et joyeuse j, adore ces trois concertos
@mariainesdeandradealcantar3263
@mariainesdeandradealcantar3263 2 ай бұрын
Como adoro o Gustavo Dudamel ❤maestro com sorriso e semblante sereno. Diferente dos maestros europeus sempre sisudos.
@jimwilson5202
@jimwilson5202 Ай бұрын
He is a great person and player and a smart director.
@Scrungge
@Scrungge 2 күн бұрын
My favorite version of the Brahms pianoconcerto.
@몽실구으름
@몽실구으름 15 күн бұрын
이 공연 완전 축복이다 ❤😊
@dalinadanergy1432
@dalinadanergy1432 16 күн бұрын
Y donde estaba este concierto (justamente este!!), q no lo habia visto??.Es nuevo en youtube parece?..Dios santo, necesitaba este concierto por Barenboim!!!...Mi padre sabe q lo adoraba, me encantaba Barenboim, escuchabamos juntos muchas cosas por el...
@mariawimmer4541
@mariawimmer4541 11 күн бұрын
Same for me. I heard a lot with my beloved mother and we shared our " Barenboimitis". ❤
@jmcmob608
@jmcmob608 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much...
@DWClassicalMusic
@DWClassicalMusic 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! 🥰
@chriso9338
@chriso9338 Ай бұрын
Un très grand merci à vous 2 Immense musicien et interprète
@raphaelsawaki8068
@raphaelsawaki8068 Ай бұрын
Two genious together on stage.
@jeandeblaize4175
@jeandeblaize4175 Ай бұрын
Tss...tss... trois génies car n'en doutez-pas, Brahms est bien présent !
@enriquepedrinaci6561
@enriquepedrinaci6561 Ай бұрын
Que magnífica técnica interpretativa.
@judithnelson1665
@judithnelson1665 Күн бұрын
A great lament for Schumann.. and lost love. Daniel, not the greatest piano technican yet very accomplished, he gets it--from his own sad life experience. All praise.
@matteogarzetti
@matteogarzetti 2 ай бұрын
Grazie
@ronl7131
@ronl7131 2 ай бұрын
Good collaboration
@damianolulli4455
@damianolulli4455 2 ай бұрын
It’s wonderfull melody and great tecnic
@danybur
@danybur 16 күн бұрын
Mi concierto para piano favorito. Y acaso el mejor.
@dalinadanergy1432
@dalinadanergy1432 16 күн бұрын
Me quedo pensando la verdad...Este concierto es tan bueno, q te pone en dudas...Me sigo quedando con el no3 de Beethoven por aspectos personales, pero este compite con el 4to y 5to facilmente..
@InvestingForTomorrow24
@InvestingForTomorrow24 11 күн бұрын
Makes the $1200/year for the internet service worth it! What a juke box!!
@ЗинаидаДзугаева
@ЗинаидаДзугаева 2 ай бұрын
Не Знаю Как Называется Но Не Это У Вас Чудный Оркестр
@jimwilson5202
@jimwilson5202 Ай бұрын
I usually listen Brahms to get a good sleep.
@dalinadanergy1432
@dalinadanergy1432 16 күн бұрын
Wow..., I do Mozart. Brahms could be very tough for me, as if my father was calling my attention to something bad that I had done...😮😮..jajaja
@ClaudioAdrianFuentesAlem-on8iw
@ClaudioAdrianFuentesAlem-on8iw Ай бұрын
Master.
@brynjarhoff-lr6hw
@brynjarhoff-lr6hw 26 күн бұрын
Dette tv opptak viser at Barenboim er en av de største musiker og pianister som verden har opplevet!😂😂😂Vidunderlig spill av Brahms,Barenboim har også en Stor innspilling med Selibidache!! Brynjar Hoff,(inn norwegian)
@XHollisWood
@XHollisWood 2 ай бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@ეთერგალოგრე
@ეთერგალოგრე 16 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@DWClassicalMusic
@DWClassicalMusic 16 күн бұрын
💕
@rebecacohen4109
@rebecacohen4109 Ай бұрын
Maravilloso Dany
@Janaceks_Dad
@Janaceks_Dad Ай бұрын
He plays this beautifully, although I’m not usually a fan of Barenboim’s playing. But I wonder how he has been able to maintain such a formidable technique, given all his other responsibilities; when does he manage to practice?
@justadude641
@justadude641 Ай бұрын
He is a genius, he obviously learns faster than the average...
@claudioparrella183
@claudioparrella183 2 ай бұрын
Ho ascoltato su youtube i 2 concerti di Brahms eseguiti benissimo da Baremboim
@jazzerzoe
@jazzerzoe 2 ай бұрын
wonderful
@paules3437
@paules3437 Ай бұрын
I"ll never stop saying it: to listen to almost 25 minutes of this caliber of music and then TO JUST SIT THERE IN SILENCE BECAUSE OF SOME ARCANE AND IDIOTIC "CUSTOM" is just plain nuts. Where but the concert hall do we have this complete absence of natural reaction? (not opera, not ballet, not Broadway, not jazz) The audience should be applauding wildly.
@CARLOSTORRES-yp2ub
@CARLOSTORRES-yp2ub Ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@martingatt7769
@martingatt7769 9 күн бұрын
Bravissimo Danny Martin G.
@gphishmon
@gphishmon 19 күн бұрын
The first piano concerto is brilliant, but I prefer the second. Mainly because I find the slow movement of this one rather weak, with little to grab my attention through much of the work, although it has a very pretty ending. The slow movement of Brahms Piano Concerto No. 2 is among my favorite musical works of all time. It's hard to believe Brahms started this at 21. Of course, he had a lot of help from his friends, Julius Grimm and especially Joseph Joaquim. It was intended to be his first symphony, but that wouldn't come for another 15 years after this one debuted.
@hiradnisari
@hiradnisari 2 ай бұрын
this piece reminds me of my adoring love for kamala harris
@담께Kathy
@담께Kathy 2 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
@kaleidoscopio5
@kaleidoscopio5 2 ай бұрын
There is an unaccurate fact at the description....it mentions the second concerto when it shoul be the first 🧐
@DWClassicalMusic
@DWClassicalMusic 2 ай бұрын
Dear @kaleidoscopio5, thank you for your important hint. We have corrected the error immediately. We are very pleased that we have such attentive viewers as you. Best regards, Your DW Classical Music Team
@kaleidoscopio5
@kaleidoscopio5 2 ай бұрын
@@DWClassicalMusic 🤗🤗
@brigittepallez2066
@brigittepallez2066 10 күн бұрын
🎉🎉
@aseverino
@aseverino Ай бұрын
Bravíiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisimo
@lingnguyen2623
@lingnguyen2623 18 күн бұрын
The second movement is the essence of Brahms, the first movement i doubt that any human harborscthose chaotic emotions unless they are nuts. But the second brings us away from tge storms wrath and into our destiny Eternal Bliss
@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 2 ай бұрын
@im_lopez This duo? It's a trio. Barenboim, Dudamel and Du Pré.
@hktwsgshin
@hktwsgshin 2 ай бұрын
ブラームス一番のラストのかっこよさは異常。
@goodchessactor
@goodchessactor 2 ай бұрын
Is it casual Tuesday for Maestro Barenboim? Cool. Nice playing too.
@c0r1nth14n_
@c0r1nth14n_ Ай бұрын
Haven't seen such amount of liberty he took with the ending before. 😄 Anyway, interesting and revealing performance although I'm not his greatest fan.
@jefolson6989
@jefolson6989 18 күн бұрын
Does the soumd seem very compressed or is it my headphones?
@violinhunter2
@violinhunter2 2 ай бұрын
Every pianist uses excess rubato in that entrance - Glenn Gould plays it strictly a tempo and it sounds better. Bernstein and Gould disagreed on the tempo for this piece - Gould wanted it a lot slower than Bernstein thought it should go but Gould did not compromise.
@TheStockwell
@TheStockwell 2 ай бұрын
Glenn Gould? Right. You bet. Sure. He was the greatest Glenn Gould who ever lived.
@jefolson6989
@jefolson6989 18 күн бұрын
Proof that Barenboim has kept up with daily piano practice. Difficult to do with music director ships and jetting around the world to conduct. One needs to be in shape for both the brahms concerti. Ive hesrd him play both. Excellent. Here he sails through the parts that are oftrn troublesome. Orchestra and soloist always perfectly step. My only complaint is the orchestra was allowed to obliterate the piano in spots. Thats the challenge of the Brahms comcerti. Part of it is how its written, so much in the middle and with large heavy orchestration. Sometime the piano accompanies the orchestra , some time the orchestra accompanies. Its handed back and forth, but i think its all meant to be heard., its tuff, but ive heard it done so i know its possible to have balence. Could be the mic placement too. Great performance. ALAS , the maestro is slowing down, withdrawing and cancelling more and more. Dudamel represents the new generation. Thats how it goes. Brahms makes you think of these things. Longing for the past, aprehension for the future and resignation. The end will come. It approaches quicker than we want, but it never stops. Thats how Brahms makes me feel. Even his early works have a nostalgic quality ( "autumnal " is the word often used, but it fits.)
@mr-wx3lv
@mr-wx3lv 18 күн бұрын
I wonder if Brahms was acquainted with Liszt's music at this point. There's certainly some influence there. But Liszt couldn't construct a vast sonata form like this.
@Emmanuel-s9q
@Emmanuel-s9q 2 ай бұрын
Je suis bouleversé j ai entendu que mr barenboim aurait des ennuis de santé lui qui a créé un orchestre israelopalestinien si c est le cas toutes mes pensées l accompagnent dans cette épreuve ❤
@mariawimmer4541
@mariawimmer4541 Ай бұрын
Sehr schwer erkrankt seit über 2 Jahren.😢
@Emmanuel-s9q
@Emmanuel-s9q 25 күн бұрын
Cela me touche profondément je lui souhaite de tout coeur de se retablir nous aimons son œuvre ❤​@@mariawimmer4541
@pascha1903
@pascha1903 Күн бұрын
auch schon 80 geworden
@paulheffron4836
@paulheffron4836 2 ай бұрын
When was this performance given?
@MM-111
@MM-111 2 ай бұрын
The performance is from 3.9.2014 at Musikfest Berlin.
@paulheffron4836
@paulheffron4836 2 ай бұрын
@@MM-111 Thanks so much. A friend of mine and I were debating how old this was. I thought it was older. You settled it for us.🙂
@DWClassicalMusic
@DWClassicalMusic 2 ай бұрын
Hi @MM-111! Thank you for stepping in 😊
@tomannable5520
@tomannable5520 Ай бұрын
I am usually a big Barenboim fan but i found this didn’t grab me. My favourite concerto (favourite recording is ashkenazy/haitink) I must be missing the point on this one. Only listened to 1st movement.
@Brad4Ellis
@Brad4Ellis 2 ай бұрын
What is the date of this performance? That information is missing from the title, the description and the notes.
@JorgeRzezak
@JorgeRzezak 2 ай бұрын
I found that the performance is from 2014, but not the exact date.
@MM-111
@MM-111 2 ай бұрын
The performance is from 3.9.2014 at Musikfest Berlin.
@chumamartinez444
@chumamartinez444 Ай бұрын
Y ese final ?😅
@amimotohisashi2375
@amimotohisashi2375 Ай бұрын
ピアノのメーカーはどこでしょうか?
@jeandeblaize4175
@jeandeblaize4175 Ай бұрын
Fabbrini (c'est écrit sur la piano 😊) La Maison Fabbrini existe depuis les années 1920, fondée à Pescara (dans les Abruzzes en Italie).
@amimotohisashi2375
@amimotohisashi2375 Ай бұрын
@@jeandeblaize4175 有難うございます。イタリアのピアノメーカーはFAZIOLIしか知りませんでした。
@JohannesBrahms-1833
@JohannesBrahms-1833 18 күн бұрын
39:00
@elenamichailez-spittler9417
@elenamichailez-spittler9417 Ай бұрын
Концерт с 2017 года😢
@よよよ-h9l
@よよよ-h9l 14 күн бұрын
44:15
@pedrodiezcansecomunoz9676
@pedrodiezcansecomunoz9676 2 ай бұрын
Nunca había escuchado la entrada del piano en el primer movimiento con tanto rubato... 😮
@changchp
@changchp 2 ай бұрын
I personally think Maestro Barenboim is a better conductor than a pianist.
@therealyuweili
@therealyuweili 2 ай бұрын
Could you be half as good as him in either?
@musicwithtalk
@musicwithtalk 2 ай бұрын
thanks for your opinion. but… we don’t need it. all we need is music. right ?
@Lwatcher-t9o
@Lwatcher-t9o 2 ай бұрын
1000 better than me for sure ☺️.
@cheri238
@cheri238 2 ай бұрын
🙏♥️🌏🌍🌎🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵🎶💫✨️💫
@闇の戦士香山リカさん
@闇の戦士香山リカさん 2 ай бұрын
バレンボイムのピアノ演奏は、他の人とは明確に違う独自の解釈を卓越したテクニックで提示してくれるので揺さぶられる。アルゲリッチと比肩する。 この演奏も独特でありながら説得力がすごい。
@FlaneurSolitaire
@FlaneurSolitaire Ай бұрын
Barenboim is way past his prime as a pianist, having spent the past thirty years of his career as a very successful conductor. This Berlin concert feels almost like a vanity event. It is a hopelessly haphazard, fragmented performance. If you love Barenboim as a pianist, listen to his old recordings. This is borderline painful to listen to.
@MM-111
@MM-111 2 ай бұрын
This performance is from 3.9.2014 at Musikfest Berlin.
@jeandeblaize4175
@jeandeblaize4175 Ай бұрын
4 minutes et demie avant de jouer, cette œuvre est faite pour des pianistes dotés de patience ! 🤭
@nonickname5012
@nonickname5012 2 ай бұрын
I'm surprised Dudamel doesn't know the work by heart. As for Barenboim's piano playing... well,,, (dull and insignificant as usual.)
@gaetangroppi1112
@gaetangroppi1112 Ай бұрын
Même le grand Klemperer dirigeait toujours avec partition, lorsqu'un critique s'en étonna il lui fit cette réponse magnifique : "mais qu'est-ce-que vous croyez, moi aussi je sais lire la musique !"
@beatrizherrera8533
@beatrizherrera8533 Ай бұрын
Les ruego ,que miren con atención como acaricia las teclas del piano . Todo ÉL es Brahms.
@EthosAnanda
@EthosAnanda Ай бұрын
I mean it's good, but it ain't no Zimmerman & Bernstein
@jacquesgillet3449
@jacquesgillet3449 Ай бұрын
Ce Barenboim est décidément infatigable !!!! Le spectacle pour le spectacle. Toujours. Et il s'est trouvé un nouvel acolyte Dudamel !!!! Le clown de Los Angeles....pauvre musique. Classique et variétés se rejoignent désormais au music hall. Tout le reflet de l'époque pourrie qu'on traverse. Tout part à vau l'eau alors pourquoi la vraie musique, la grande serait elle épargnée ?
@gaetangroppi1112
@gaetangroppi1112 Ай бұрын
Mais quel est donc votre niveau musical ? j'espère à tout le moins 1° prix de conservatoire supérieur ! au moins vous ne doutez pas...
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