Russia refuses to hand back more than 500 leased airplanes | DW News

Monday is the final call for Russian airlines to hand back hundreds of commercial aircraft to their foreign owners. EU sanctions mean leasing companies have had to cancel their contracts to supply Russian carriers with planes. Leased planes make up the majority of the Western-built commercial jets used by Russian airlines. There are more than 500 of them, with a combined value of some 10 billion dollars. While these planes have been unable to fly outside Russia due to sanctions banning them from European airspace, many are still flying domestic routes. And lessors are losing hope of actually getting them back. Russia's transportation minister says the Kremlin will compensate owners for the aircraft, but there have reportedly been no negotiations so far, because any agreement would breach sanctions.
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[@fugehdehyou]

Imagine taking $300B and expecting nothing in return.

[@maxmustermann9587]

@M P Don't worry, the U.S. will not be sanctioned for this.

[@Baz.007]

@M P no need to imagine. America does it with impunity.

[@maxmustermann9587]

@M P Relocating is always a difficult endeavor, especially when relocating to a different country. So, I hope you found happiness and contentedness. Regarding considering themselves superior: Well, this mental illness is not monopolised by Russia. Sadly it can be found all around the world.

[@aqranbaig7389]

@@maxmustermann9587 what U.S did with iraq, libya and Afghanistan And what Israel doing with Palestine Similar Russia doing with Ukraine Better the world should be equal with all

[@fugehdehyou]

@M P I don’t need to imagine that’s already happened many times over in the Middle East. Time to wake up kid

[@TheZ-XFiles]

Did we expect them not to react? All their assets being seized and we expected them to just give back things like that?

[@tivmego]

🤣🤣🤣 There was a time, we would both read grown adults cry over retaliation and laugh seriously but this is not funny anymore. They went against democratic laws and sanctioned Russia just to force them to play balls but Russia did similar to the EU and now, they call Russia a thief.

[@SilkeKlingelhofer]

Yes, that's usually how it works. When something doesn't belong to you you're expected to give it back. You know, kinda like Crimea and the Donbas.

[@tivmego]

@@SilkeKlingelhofer What about all the Russian assets frozen and taken by NATO countries? Does it belong to them?

[@SilkeKlingelhofer]

@@tivmego Consider them a down payment for supporting millions of people getting bombed out of their homes, for people risking their lives to try and get humanitarian aid into Ukraine, and for European countries having to build up their military because they no longer feel save. Sorry but you don't get to cry foul when you're the one causing the problem.

[@oraclex2976]

@@tivmego Play with your own balls.

[@billfairless6256]

Hasn't the EU, UK and US barred Russian aircraft from their Airports. Makes it hard to return an aeroplane when they won't let you land it.

[@garwhittaker3743]

No they had a 2 week window to get them back.

[@theo3357]

they could take it from Istanbul or somewhere neutral, it isn't really a problem

[@vasileiosntinas7833]

Fair enough you are loud and clear!!!??

[@GokulOnFire]

The biggest theft in history is Biden administration losing 800 BILLION dollars from Covid fund. And just this week he's still asking for more.

[@roumyhranova9169]

Russia are smart😂😂😂

[@larrydickman5936]

" Great Britain refuses to return the islands of Diego Garcia back to its original inhabitants ". You won't hear this statement with the same vigour as the above headline.

[@liliananderson8654]

Say, that again!!!! I thought one of the biggest thefts was refusing to return outright stolen artfacts.. Then have the audacity to sell/auction them..

[@apfeltpunkt2053]

This is "News". They focus on "new" stuff. That's how it is. It's not a "western" or "german" thing, it's just human thing. Other than that there is also a lot of coverage of topics like your's, especially by german television, but we call it documentation then. Your comment is, even if it's technically not wrong, nothing but whataboutism, cause you neglect what the news-format is actually made for: Information about current topics.

[@larrydickman5936]

@@apfeltpunkt2053 it's " news" because its about their agenda and what's affects their perpetual interests.

[@maxmustermann9587]

@@apfeltpunkt2053 So UK is allowed to ignore international law because it's inconvenient and of course US too - but Russia definitely is not. Is double standard still sufficient for you or are you already at triple or quadruple?

[@apfeltpunkt2053]

@@larrydickman5936 It's called perspective. What's our "perpetual interest"? This is German news and we actually are the only big western nation known for keeping the door always wide open for Russia, building NordStream and getting them into G7, making it G8. That has been our wish. We always wanted Russia to get more industrial interaction with Europe, cause we thought that leads to peace, as the concept of the EU was made for this purpose. Unfortunately Putin abused this for his more or less very own interest, against the interest of his people. So actually, the german interest in Russia was to make the average citizen more wealthy, to have streets and infrastructure. Why? so they evolve economically and don't depend on moscow for food and basic needs. Putin knows that poor people will always vote for him, as this promised stability so they don't have to fear worse times. But that's Putin's trap. Unfortunately he always managed to suck the money out of the system and stabilized his power. So in this case the german interest has been in favor of the russian people since the 70s and chancellor Willy Brandt. You should stop generalizing.

[@thebaldone7453]

We seize all their stuff, their gold, stick a load of sanctions on them, send weapons to their enemy and then you complain about this?! How dare you 😂

[@shelukindo]

Just amazing

[@saarza9991]

@@shelukindo American double standards

[@gastonbess9469]

i really don't know if you understand what you are saying if Russia choose to weponize eny country is with nuclear weapons how about that think

[@Kim_Petannie]

let's see, in the future, who the launched nuclear first

[@garymoore1054]

@thePiercingTruth thanks for that ww2 had come to an end

[@markvelber8664]

When Russia does it’s theft, when you would frizzed Russia 600 billion dollars it’s sanctions 🤪

[@philippe2715]

And sanctions for what? For doing the same thing the US did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria.

[@Feyser1970]

russia is an agressor criminal ,that s the difference

[@markvelber8664]

@@Feyser1970 who was aggressive criminal in Iraq, Palestine, Libya, destroyed the whole Middle East killed millions of innocent ordinary people women and children, stop being pathetic. One rule for you and for the rest is other.

[@philippe2715]

@@Feyser1970 But the US bombing Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya... and helping Saudi-Arabia in a genocide in Yemen is ok.

[@ilkerkaynakdemir6753]

Europe have a strange way of looking things. I mean, come on, you seized their accounts, not only goverment but also their citizens. Which part of that was legal? And now talking how illegal it will be to keep the planes?! You did to them, they did to you. Basic logic. Don't misunderstand I am neither Russian or German.

[@pt17171]

Yes but freezing Central Bank reserves is also illegal.

[@011Srbija]

Imagine seizing half of country’s federal reserves 🤔 I would call that the biggest theft in history.

[@the_kombinator]

Do you think 500 aircraft even make a dent in the federal reserves? The Russians just created 500 unfliable paperweights, as without spare parts and maintenance items, those planes are good until the first major maintenance cycle, then they're literally scrap metal. Unless you're referring to the reserves of Somalia maybe...

[@JJ-hi4gh]

That was the biggest robbery, not theft

[@cravingtuna1561]

Imagine bitching about the west freezing assets that 100% would be used to pay for bombs, tanks and missiles to kill civilians

[@JSB103]

Dollar for dollar, nothing can make a dent in the budget the dollar printer owner... Except when people all over the world break from the dollar merry go 'round, something I'm sure you know it's soon to become the new pandemic... right?!

[@let4be]

@@the_kombinator those planes ARE spare parts :)

[@anarabbasov8634]

People remember international rules when is beneficial.

[@johnmc3862]

People forget them when it is beneficial too.

[@hcui7456]

exactly, XD

[@andrewwong2605]

Exactly. Rules are made for other to obey.

[@rod9829]

The irony of this comment is palpable.

[@liquidh6344]

Please ignore human rights when it comes to USA bombing Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen.

[@dragonmyballsz268]

So when we seized Russian private belonging we called it "Sanction" And when they do the same, we called em "thief"?

[@Neeleish_cr_gaawre]

Hypocrisy at its best😂

[@MrChonkers]

We call it war actually.

[@Roberto-nj5yr]

American hypocrisy

[@apfeltpunkt2053]

As it is relatively clear who is the aggressor: yes, it is as simple as that.

[@kap1526]

Because these airplanes aren't there dummy. Never were and never be. They are leased .

[@toto-yf8tc]

Can the EU freeze the asset of private citizen without a judge saying anything? Is that legal?

[@frankdesantis8078]

Canada shows them the way. Who needs laws.

[@toto-yf8tc]

@@tamziid he froze their asset.

[@adlerzwei]

That's a strange question. Who else than a ruling body is supposed to freeze assets? 🤔

[@toto-yf8tc]

@@adlerzwei I have not seen any ruling by a judge so far. I would be interested to see one (I don't say there is none just I have not seen it)

[@philippe2715]

No. It's pure theft. They should be charged with a crime or something like that. Also the EU and the US has profited a lot from rich oligarchs investing there money in the west. I bet they won't make that mistake any more. Also countries like China, Saudi-Arabia and others are watching this. When will it be there turn?

[@37-GARLIC]

Imagine being an aviation jurnalist and preparing for this moment your whole life 😅

[@peetsnort]

There is a yacht equivalent.

[@snowmoon7385]

😂🤣

[@chadwashington2478]

😂😂😂

[@felipeyoutube04]

Hahahaha exactly. His dark circles show that he hadn’t slept for a couple of days

[@stephendoherty8291]

Just wait till the oil and gas journos get their moment. We've yet to see the private helicopter industry journos and the bankrupt industry journos. Just pray the journos who cover the IMF/UN/EU/Worldbank don't wonder why they are not on TV.

[@cornebod]

Well if they can seize Russian citizens assets I see no problem with seizing foreign companies assets

[@nikagetashvili6752]

Have part of your country, home and family ever been seized by the Russian soldiers?

[@iskandarunsen3462]

@@nikagetashvili6752 yes.... but not russian soldier... its us, uk, itali, spain, australia, netherland, poland soldiers

[@diosdelcielo]

@@nikagetashvili6752 uk...spain...and ametica...never been invaded by russia....so wait isnt doble standard by those countries???

[@qlueqlueqlue4449]

Exactly. Russia is just getting back what has been robbedd from them

[@AmirSatt]

They didn't seized them, they froze them before war is over

[@lq7777]

Interesting move on Russia’s part. Promise to pay for them, knowing the lessors can’t accept payment until sanctions are lifted. Create a reason for airlines to support a quick lifting of sanctions once the war is over.

[@sanketsawant7475]

Sanctions would not be lifted now so easily, wait for decade😀😃😄

[@romenas]

Actually it will result in semi-permenant really bad credit rating to all Russian aviation sector. they will have troubles to lease an aircraft for decades

[@HistorysMysterys]

@@romenas Not only is putin an evil, psychotic war pig who burns children alive in front of their families with airstrikes, he's also a petty criminal robber, stealing the most expensive items you could steal.

[@squa11e]

@@romenas это приведет к восстановлению своей авиапромышленности

[@romenas]

@@squa11e Your industry needs money, technology which they don't have. Sure you might build 1950-1960 airplanes. Though in reality there is a reason why few major airplane manufacturers exists. It's really expensive. Only viable manufacturer is Sukhoi. Though it has serious safety problems.

[@bartoszdobroslaw9774]

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[@bartoszdobroslaw9774]

@Johannes Buchanan That sounds great and how do i connect with her ?

[@bartoszdobroslaw9774]

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[@user-db6fe5sf4b]

Scam comment lol

[@the0000alex0000]

honestly i am not too sure. we literally seized a bunch of their assets too so... why would they hand back our airplanes?

[@Catscan894]

I have the same question . It seems more like tit for tat versus some astounding criminal theft

[@masterharith8488]

This make me realize it western that start 1st

[@fern7306]

False equation. The Russian assets that were seized We’re from private Russian individuals… The oligarchs. Russia is stealing goods from foreign companies!

[@alru4407]

Russia can also return it if the companies take out the planes themselves. Russia can very quickly resume the production of its Soviet-style aircraft, the production of which was independent of Western components

[@nczioox1116]

the companies losing the planes are not the ones freezing assets. might not even be of the same country

[@drewsmith8054]

Their $300 billion was frozen and now the same people complain about their $10 billion is a joke.🤣

[@overlordborn6131]

300 billion plus all assets of Russian billionaire, they even tried to steal their hatch lol 😂

[@just_BASED]

And they killed thousands of people and bombed a sovereign country for wanting to have free will over their country, lol. Also, there was no taking of anything, just a special financial operation. No sanctions over corrupt people who shouldn’t have even had that money in the first place. Get a grip.

[@edmondfookwenglee6372]

Welcome them to the club

[@Wow.yaroslav]

Russia will pay all of this to Ukraine. And will be paying for the next 100 years.

[@just_BASED]

@AgainstTheSystem .ATS It’s their choice to be the “The United States’ puppet” clearly. Again, can you comprehend the magnitude of the idiocy you just typed? Forcing a sovereign country to act against their desire for democracy is pure stupidity, and evil. Bringing stuff that happened over 20 years ago isn’t helping your plead for the murder and cleansing of Ukrainians and their free will in the hands of a murderous dictator, and a war criminal.

[@NudelKungen.]

Not that I like Russia in any way but all their assets are being seized, they can’t pay for the airplanes even if they wanted to, and they are not even allowed to fly out of Russia with the planes. They are also willing to pay when they can. This is actually one of the few things that actually make sense as far as Russian reasoning goes recently.

[@Rishi123456789]

You are correct and I completely agree with you, except that I love Russia.

[@nikagetashvili6752]

Had not they invaded another sovereign country, killed thousands of civilians, including hundreds of children, bombed maternity wards, shelters, raped women... maybe their assets would not be frozen? Pathetic!

[@johnmandiram]

Why did NATO try to expand Eastwards............?

[@DennisTheInternationalMenace]

@@Rishi123456789 You must be from India

[@nikagetashvili6752]

@@johnmandiram because there are INDEPENDENT countries in the east who have all the rights to choose their allies and want to be safe from the monster like Russia

[@Neeleish_cr_gaawre]

Putin is doing right if russian properties are seized outside russia then why cant they seize western property😂

[@Rishi123456789]

I completely agree with you, man. Russia is based.

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

“Biggest theft in history?” UK: Amateurs!!!

[@robertcox14]

Yeah, India is still Britain's largest theft. Empires are brutal.

[@phil3038]

🤣🤣🤣🤣.. yeah sorry about that

[@thetruth8265]

England's Queen Proudly wears that stolen Kohinoor 🤣

[@markopecinovic4475]

Rwanda - "Hey guys don't forget us!" Every coltan capacitor and fractal antenna in any cell/computer has machetes to thank. A global telecommunications revolution worth trillions needed an ignored genocide.

[@myawoo]

Queen Elizabeth's underwear is also stolen. Even her breast & butt implants are stolen

[@javlonkakhramonov9517]

nearly half a trillion worth of frozen assets is not theft you say?

[@unduloid]

All Russia needed to do to avoid that is _not_ invade Ukraine. That's not a particularly tall order.

[@sollte1239]

Invading a country is no theft??? Russia could just leave Ukraine and after that Europe would find solutions with Russia

[@realnapster1522]

@@sollte1239 why nobody sanctioned US and UK?

[@adnanadan457]

@@sollte1239its not like Putin fell from the sky and started all this it was you europens with ur imperial saviour thinking idea that blew up all this from expanding waves of NATO europe membership when u already had Warsaw pact in play and now at Russian backyard tryna act cocky what do u think u want Ruska to bend over no u get what u really asked for this the reality now for making wrong choice deal with it

[@KillerofWestoids]

It's called western hypocrisy.

[@ParikshitBhujbal]

West : steals around $300 BILLION of Russian Central Bank money. Russia : retaliates West : Russia is cheating! lol

[@paulskronbergs3824]

Well there was a good reason for freezing Russian central bank money, so if you want to defend russia think of something better

[@jdeast8569]

China will possess India soon. How many billions is that?

[@MuhammadOthman88]

Lol, here I thought DW is just like any western media, telling one side of story and their viewers buying whatever they sell, just like Sky News, CNN, WSJ, etc. But after looking at the comment sections, i'm relieved most of the viewers can actually think rationally.!!

[@tomihoui]

Not sanctions. They're a "Special Financial Operation".

[@optimvsprinceps1845]

Overused joke

[@kamalyandluri4298]

Special civilians neck rope

[@archangeljessehalliday]

I totally agree 👍 😅😅😅

[@stevenmcsteven6693]

@@optimvsprinceps1845 You always have the clowns that never read it before.

[@greyghost3497]

@@stevenmcsteven6693 because if you see something after everyone else you’re somehow lesser? Time to grow up kiddo

[@chirots]

What about - Venezuelan gold - Russian central bank assets - Russian businessmen assets The list just goes on and on.

[@MashZ]

What about Afghanistan's reserves that was seized and given away to "911 victims" even tho no Afghan citizen was ever involved in the attack (mostly Saudi citizens)

[@MrBell-iq3sm]

The russian assets will come in handy when the Ukraine needs funds for rebuilding.

[@JohnSmith-dg3rd]

@@MashZ nice whataboutism

[@rushiekh]

@@MashZ Don't forget that the US has also placed a freeze on Iranian assets.

[@MashZ]

@@JohnSmith-dg3rd nice selective bias 🤡 'Rule for thee not for me"

[@abdullahikimam1915]

"What chances of getting those planes back?" Maybe after the US returns Russia's $300bn in reserve they froze.

[@vapidshay]

*$600 billion+ and who in their right mind would trade that much money for a few airplanes?

[@abdullahikimam1915]

@@vapidshay well its actually $300bill+. But yeah... so they're never getting back those planes. Nor will the US ever release those funds in the foreseeable future.. Though it turns out the US actually gave Russia a license to use the frozen billions in paying the interests on their sovereign U$D denominated bonds (debt). Seeing as most of debt is held by Western entities anyway, it means the funds remain in house (in the western financial system. The license however has an expiry date (sometime in next couple of months) after which the US treasury has hinted it will not be renewed. A Russian offer to settle the payments in Rubles was soundly rejected. Aim being to force Russia into default leading to a downgrade of Russia's credit worthiness. All this in my opinion, is just the US clutching at straws. The sanctions (largest package ever put on a single country) don't seem to have any immediate significant effect on Putin's actions nor is it preventing them from funding the actual War and gaining more ground every day. Which should be no surprise as Sanctions have never been known to have any immediate effects significant enough to force a country to "behave". At this rate, by the time the sanctions have noticeable effects, the eastern half of Ukraine will be firmly in Putin's grip. And he's not one to let go once he's got anything he really wants.

[@vapidshay]

@@abdullahikimam1915 Well considering how currency is a construct, of course they have no issue “funding” their conquest for now. It’s sad though just how much they’ve been struggling with little old Ukraine. Considering the fact they lower their end goal week over week, we’ll see just how much of Ukraine they do end up controlling. Regardless to how much of Ukraine they do end up conquering though, there isn’t a future where Russia honestly “wins” anything besides war torn and scorched land, a ruined economy, and certified world pariah status.

[@brunovovos88]

As s Chelsea FC fan this makes sense. Although I believe no government has a right to take what belongs to another

[@14077goodluck]

Yes, US Federal reserve has seized $300 Billion of Russian sovereign funds. Now you know biggest theft in HISTORY.

[@homegeographic5351]

west took stuff from russians, so pay back is sweet

[@vesnapetrovic4401]

And imagine hippocrates who first take Russian money , even private and then go " hold the theft" ..

[@e-kamar2701]

US took Afghanis money

[@vesnapetrovic4401]

@@e-kamar2701 if just Afghan is to be.. they lootering around the world and eats people's bread.. but not anymore!

[@GnosticAtheist]

True enough, they cant pay the owners until sanctions are lifted so it is what it is I guess.

[@DipenKumar27]

These liers won't tell they Frozen all Russian forex reserves and Russian Buisness man's properties 🤣🤣

[@davidferrari7543]

@@DipenKumar27 China is supported by the Chinese meanwhile We(USA) are in clearly and fast decline now!

[@paweesayson1707]

The sanctions should never be lifted ever! When will you learn that another Putin might come back years aftr his regime?

[@chhuonthoeurn2132]

THEFT

[@DipenKumar27]

@@davidferrari7543 Oh it'll happen when you support and practice Liberalism 🤣🤣🤣

[@icetea8946]

I mean. Didnt the sanctions technically steal their reserved money?

[@GamingDad]

AFAIK they're frozen. Meaning they will get it back when they stop the war.

[@emunozq]

@@GamingDad Yeah probably that's the moment they will get their Frozen planes back

[@ritemolawbks8012]

Nope. The governments can't seize property in the West. The assets and proceeds still belong to the Oligarchs. They're just frozen. The Russian Central Bank's assets are also frozen, not seized. Russia and the private owners haven't technically stolen these planes either. They won't be able to be served and will eventually become death traps. It probably makes them feel like they're doing something to retaliate, but sanctions were designed to destabilize the Russian economy and cause a recession. That's all but assured now, and the West is aware of the costs associated with economic warfare.

[@jeffkukkee]

Only 160 Billion worth in Gold and some Cash

[@GamingDad]

@@emunozq lol I doubt it. I'm sure those planes will become spare parts before you know it.

[@hritik25m19]

USA before war - we are with you USA when war starts - our prayers are with you

[@evilmex1962]

Russia - your planes are with me

[@hritik25m19]

@@evilmex1962 Russia - Your oil and gas is with me , what will u do now Wood??? That too is with me

[@zoom777]

Good job Russia 👌, now Russia should charge for keeping these planes on Russian territory.

[@philippe2715]

I would tell them they can get there planes back. But first they should pay for the kerosine and CO2 taxes. $1 million dollars (payable in gold) a barrel.

[@hectorgonzalezh.3980]

I wonder why John Deere s are more technology advanced than airplanes,. Those tractors are been remotely desable. How come they can't disable planes.

[@juzzlookin]

Yep can't (you banned pilots) fly them back, so well charge to keep them here.

[@vapidshay]

Lol, nobody wants those planes anymore. They’re losing value with every second that they’re not certified or properly maintained.

[@thefirsttimes4796]

What about Russia's 640Billion foreign reserve? Oh you mean your dog is a pet while Russia's dog is a stray dog? How ridiculous are you all?

[@America_bombsTSMC]

This is called double standards

[@Theanvcorporation]

Strange to see the Ummah admiring putin so much these days.

[@animeee4380]

Biggest theft In history is when the European Steal from Africa

[@KUMAR-dl7dp]

Good to see RUSSIA ripping off their own! This is what we called KARMA! 640 Billions not even enough to pay the damages that they destroy in Ukraine Buildings… and no money can pay lives of innocent children in Ukraine. Find your brain around to answer your questions,,, I guess you need good manners than education.

[@Madhu2405]

A solution always gives rise to another problem.

[@user55book]

Westerns are pathetic hypocrites. The biggest theft in history is when President Nixon abandoned the convertibility of the Dollar to Gold thereby seizing the gold of the whole world.

[@GPSniper1]

@@user55book lol express your opinion in western internet using English hahahaahaha

[@Mrdinomist]

@@GPSniper1 What did he say wrong? Like if you want to find solution and this is basically for everything not only politics, you will usually make some new problem. Example If i run Hotel that has primary Business guest and i decided to make it more commercial , i would run into a problem regarding how much of space is needed for commercial use and what should be left for business use.

[@andreycham4797]

What else could you expect from old American man?

[@user55book]

@@GPSniper1 this doesn't change the fact that westerners are hypocrites

[@user-pl5oj1hr8n]

We didn't start stealing first, you did. Give us back the gold, we'll give you back the planes.

[@Vietnamesepride100]

Russia is not the only victim. In fact, in the name of "anti-dictatorship", The West ( US and NATO ) have plundered the properties of Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, ..in recent years, ..in recent years.

[@PascaAlexandru]

"Is that legal?" Dude is living on another reality....

[@maxxim111]

LOL. A robber called the victim as a theft. The most funniest joke in the history.

[@snowmoon7385]

😅🤣🤣😂

[@proimran7757]

They're hypocrites

[@dain6250]

Well Russia has virtually ensured that the only passenger aircraft it will be able to get its hands on are Chinese or domestically produced. Any aircraft leasing company won't touch them for at least a couple decades after this.

[@LLAALALA]

​@@yeetian2774 Actually based on Chinese sources the 'core component' of Chinese made C919 switched from American parts to Chinese parts in early 2020. So China in theory could independently keep planes running, at a much higher cost of course.

[@matt-eu-poland]

yeah, they think they 'seized' something. The truth is, it belongs not to the people affiliated with politics but simply to private companies that will not do a business there for decades to come. 10bln is what they will be losing monthly after this.

[@mabu2987]

It would mean great loss for the europeans and great gain for the chinese and other friendly nations.

[@lovyrituraj]

they have a huge aviation history anyway, so sanctions hurt both ways

[@dain6250]

@@mabu2987 nothing catastrophic. Russia has a smaller economy than the state of Texas. There are 42 other nations in Europe who will continue to lease planes.

[@abamblack]

LMAO.... good on Russia. I would do the same thing too... In fact, I would seize everything belonging to the unfriendly nation. They started the sanction and started the mess, well, expect the retaliation from Russia

[@mace8873]

You seem to fail to understand _why_ the sanctions were imposed in the first place, you _do_ realize that they are a _reaction,_ right? Or were you simply dropped a lot on your head as a child?

[@ninu5719]

'You took away my yatches,now I take your planes.'

[@feurigerStern]

The airline companies can now claim loss on their taxes. This may affect everyone.

[@dibqip]

I think they were registered in Barbados and owned in Ireland so as to minimise any such impact 😂

[@CarlosSanchez-en6mr]

Not all airplane owners are from countries that do this, and I think most planes are registered in countries with low taxes which would offer almost no protection

[@kamaruzzamanbaki6286]

Can the poor Afghans claim their money sanctioned and stolen by US

[@Spit_Or_Swallow]

Russian are not the thefts return all the yatch and get the plain 😄

[@lambertlum1087]

@@kamaruzzamanbaki6286 Afghans have money? That country is pathetically poor. The only money to be made is sales of opium crops. I am sure you agree that drugs are bad, and confiscation of such money is a good thing, too.

[@seamusoreilly804]

One would have to assume this seizure by Russia was calculated. I saw this coming from the day the first sanctions were announced. And all the stores, companies, their warehouses and supplies, who have stopped doing business in Russia will be seized, too.

[@Scientist_Albert_Einstein]

let me guess, you also believe that flatearthers conjecture about the earth being flat is also calculated.

[@seamusoreilly804]

@@Scientist_Albert_Einstein Are you simply trolling, or are you serious? It's an obvious move by the Russians in response to the airspace denials.

[@Dleon918]

Other countries are seizing Russian jets and super yatchs

[@sofiajohansson8537]

Russia is the one losing in the long run. Even if the sanctions is lifted, Companies will be hesitent to invest there.

[@unconventionalideas5683]

Except the employees are still being paid in many cases, which complicates matters.

[@pathakajay1996]

Britain must be feeling proud

[@hsoepangkat2007]

Actually there's no need to terminate those leasing agreements. Europe just hurt themselves more than they hurt Russia.

[@vesnapetrovic4401]

Just someone didn't inform them yet

[@CB-ur8zy]

Russia is useless without tech in the end.

[@vesnapetrovic4401]

@@CB-ur8zy Russia have the technology and now strong China on their side.. thank you Jo Biden..🤣🤣🤣

[@CB-ur8zy]

@@vesnapetrovic4401 china delivers no tech lol.

[@texaswunderkind]

Any negotiation to remove the sanctions will include returning the planes as well. Lots of things need to happen first.

[@jarivuorinen3878]

Those planes won't be usable once sanctions are lifted. Nobody knows how long those sanctions will last but they will stay for years at minimum. 12 billion dollars worth of planes.

[@timothyball3144]

It seems that the leasing companies will be pushing for an end of sanctions in order to attempt to get compensated for their losses.

[@marishkagranada7985]

What about the damages and lives lost in Ukraine?

[@rtqii]

@@timothyball3144 It seems you are lying for Putin.

[@ev.c6]

@@timothyball3144 Unlikely.

[@serbtesla]

I always wanted to have one of those. In few years it will be cheap.

[@HuplesCat]

The West will dump Ukraine when your use has ended

[@mubitamaombe8437]

EU hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me coz I believe it's cardinal to "Do unto others what you want them to do you"

[@mace8873]

Try applying that to ruSSia...

[@4700_Dk]

Sad to see beautiful aircraft simply neglected. Getting them all up and running will be way to costly.

[@joemarooni4580]

Why would they be neglected? Are you that easily brainwashed?

[@Goprof150]

@@joemarooni4580 They aren’t getting any parts are you that brainwashed 😆

[@cyf3555]

It's so hypocritic how our politicians crying about "breach of contact" when they buy gas, but it's completely fine if they force leasing companies to break their contracts.

[@tjampman]

Politicians don't buy gas. Politicians make sanction lists. (Well, maybe with the exception of Gerhard Schroder)

[@tingstead1181]

That would be the illegal Russian annexation of Crimea 2014. How much did Putin pay Ukraine for that?

[@bearrally888]

@@tingstead1181 it was illegal for odumbo to install his puppet in Ukraine and canceled leases to Russian navy in Crimea.

[@optimvsprinceps1845]

@@tingstead1181 Crimea was always a part of Russia, troll.

[@starburst23]

Not a breach* of contract, merely a Special Contract Operation under way

[@tangycreation2193]

They are doing right by re-registering the airplanes as Europe and UK tried to cease Russian yachts and many more, so this is just a payback.

[@venomancer5736]

Pitty payback lol

[@gloriakadar3288]

Correct.

[@bluestarfc7370]

They have the right. To re register all 500 planes

[@spartanraja7961]

And the funniest part is every action of NATO and EU is backfiring for them.....And no one should forget that Putin is a former KGB agent...

[@gregorioeduardo]

Russia was leased the planes by legal means. Seizing yachts and other assets gotten by massive corruption of their oligarchs and friends of the Butcher of Moscow hardly compares.

[@thebaldidiot]

How nicely you can say that it is illegal for them to use these planes but not a word coming out as being illegal to sanction any country and freeze their assets 🤔👌

[@the_coolest_man_on_earth]

You give back their assets, they'll give you yours. And shame on your double standards

[@davyjones41]

you should visit British museums that will change your perspective

[@luigi1913]

One of the few points I actually agree with.

[@kenigbinedion928]

They stole a lot from Africa and put it in there museum, they should return it before pointing fingers at Putin.

[@robertcox14]

I have heard of "Brutish Museums," have you?

[@JS-ip8xm]

Try visiting the Ermitage

[@zoom777]

The largest section is the Assyrian monuments, the Brits even stole walls from now day Iraq.

[@user-lr6hw4dq4t]

You're freezing their foreign assets, What you expect????

[@violinhunter2]

Yep!!! What about the sanctions?? They are lucky that Russia hasn't cut off their gas supplies. They would all freeze to death. They are saying what the Americans are telling them to say?

[@trezapoioiuy]

Freezing and seizing, small difference

[@vmonro8447]

@@trezapoioiuy imagine going to your bank and they told you that they froze your money....hummm...not a steal...humm..

[@trezapoioiuy]

@@vmonro8447 it would suck but it’s still not a theft. Especially if I’ve done enough to deserve it.

[@vmonro8447]

@@trezapoioiuy let go further..now imagine the bank told you that they froze your assets bcause of a family conflict or bcause you refused to follow the covid mandate like in Canada...(ukraine isn't in nato or the European union ..for context )

[@jame2182]

Wise decision by Russia. What about sanctions? Do you think that the sanctions may have had a direct influence on the Russian decision.

[@AdamAdamHDL]

It's fair. You stole their yacht's they steal your planes.

[@muhammadsalman7714]

I almost laughed at Question, is that legal? Really!!!!

[@prakorngirodkunkid7877]

I think it's legal because US govt. & NATO do the same things.

[@danilgazizov]

Yes, the answer is same as are sunctions legal ever first?

[@hifinsword]

Who ever heard of Putin considering the legal ramifications of starting a war? NO ONE EVER!

[@martinmbokazi8372]

Is it legal for the US & The WEST to invade and bomb sovereign countries and steal their resources ?. Is it legal for the WEST to kill 90% of The Native Indians and steal America?. Is it legal for the WEST to kill more than 75% of the Native Aboriginal people in Australia and steal their country ?. Is it legal for the WEST to kill more than 75% of the Native Aboriginal people in Canada and steal their country ?. The list is endless, i can go on and on.

[@danilgazizov]

@@hifinsword You are wrong. The Putin's operation is legal because this regions of Lugansk and Donbass wants officially to protect their people from Ukrainian illegal government. And Russian Federation has mandatory to protect them. If you don't agree, you undermine the basis of democracy.

[@ollamail1892]

Wait, I thought sitting on all assets, including gold reserves, yachts and private jets that belong to Russians by the West follows the same concept🤔 doesn’t this mean acts of theft are both ways? I mean similar news such as this could be aired in Russia too

[@bazzer621]

When a criminal has his assets seized, it is called justice! When a criminal steals from someone, it is called theft! Surely, even a tiny brain can work that out!

[@markmaki4460]

@@bazzer621 Well let's face it; even Stalin still has his apologists.

[@seedlingtray927]

Birdbrain

[@paulcauchi7874]

How about the US freezing and steeling $9.5billion in assets belonging to Afganistan?

[@ollamail1892]

@@bazzer621 ‘justice’ you said, ehh? Those who are now serving the ‘justice’ hv committed same acts of criminality too, not even long time ago, we don’t see this ‘justice’ being served on them at the time! If you’re gonna interpret these current actions of p--in as crime, then make sure you are free from same actions. What is good for the goose they say is good for gander!

[@hilberthong3728]

When U.S. and pro-U.S. countries seize Russian properties and assets, it is O.K. but when Russia does the same, it is not O.K. What a hypocrite and double standard.

[@felipeyoutube04]

This totally makes sense. An aircraft needs constant maintenance and if it isn’t performed for a few weeks only, serious problems can arise from. When an aircraft is sent back to its leaser after months without documentation, it’s just not worth it to make a full maintenance check-up because of its huge cost. It’s better and less lossy to just leave the aircraft to scrap.

[@lq7777]

True, but who is to say Aeroflot won’t keep documentation of the maintenance.

[@vonMohl]

I love the question of the anchor: "Is that legal ? Is that something they can do" You bet they care a lot about legality over there...

[@casteretpollux]

Well in fairness, sanctions aren't exactly legal, they are raw exertion of power. They kill far more children than bombs do.

[@stevezashe9302]

They have every right to take it, isn't it the same west who stole private yachts and vandalized private property? hypocrites

[@casteretpollux]

@@stevezashe9302 I dont give a darn about the oligarchs. Hundreds of Afghan children are dying every day due to US UK sanctions/looting.

[@comiwolfsbrother7310]

Is it legal to freeze private property without the court decision? When talking about legality we are on thin ice, ‘cos we “took” private property of Russian citizens now we cry about confiscated jets.

[@ruskiydude9987]

@Hans Otto Kroeger Kaethler no it is not legal to sieze private property of individuals, millionaires or not. If EU did it, then Russia has the right to do it in this economic war. As simple as that.

[@raidftpsc5222]

You take my boats and mansions, I take your planes. Seems fair.

[@Cruck10]

Europe and U.S.: Takes Russian Yachts Russia: Takes planes Europe and U.S.: 👁👄👁

[@tvbopc5416]

So, Germany will return the Russian gas storage facilities they seized? You can't break the rules of international law and expect the other side to follow them.

[@mraffa3764]

the biggest theft is sanction because every deal has contract agreement which only can be waive with mutual agreement. one sided breach will only cause another party to do the same

[@jan22150]

It all depends who gets hurt more if things go south.

[@kathlen76]

this is the real biggest thief : frozen around $300 billion of Russian reserves and and the value of those 500 planes is nothing compared to those assets

[@paulcic1771]

@@kathlen76 so you have no problem for Putin to use that money to kill people.

[@CarlosSanchez-en6mr]

@@kathlen76 300 billion is still nothing to the lives lost, in my opinion, the government needs to be overthrown

[@danielloh2166]

@@kathlen76 You need to understand that every things make by US are for the future of mankind. Although US sanction Russia 1st and froze their asset but after that as "Revenge" Putin fight back by Threaten EU to stop Gas flow & only accept Rubles as Punishment. Putin got no right to take revenge because "revenge" are only for children not for mature adult and world leader. Putin are very childish & selfish. The sanction against Russia had hurt US poor citizen causing the increase Gas Theft & now putin try to make US poor life citizen worse by impose a revenge Scheme. As a responsible Leader Before Putin make any decision he must think if the decision he make had impact on the Poor US & EU citizen or not. Putin are very selfish

[@patricksairyon8515]

No bro, seizing ordinary Russian property is the biggest theft 🤣

[@ohiampuja9246]

Stealing is not that bad as invading, and killing.

[@ninaclemente5944]

No more foreign passengers. They know the score.

[@bhaggoporiksha2940]

DW, please don't lose your goodwill.

[@711jastin]

you do know sanctions only work if everyone plays by the rules, in this case, yes and no.

[@marinaermakova2731]

SOS from Russia: Goodwill people! FORCE NATO to CLOSE the SKY OVER UKRAINE. This is the only way to stop Putin. Otherwise, you will be the next victim of his aggression! Don't be afraid of a nuclear strike from his side - he cannot do it alone, and the top militaries around him have families and want to live. It's just a threat on his part. He uses your fear to prevent military aid to Ukraine. By not closing the sky over Ukraine NATO becomes an accomplice of Putin's crimes against humanity

[@strongbrain3128]

It is a fair game: What about the properties and money seized by the West countries?

[@davidjennings2179]

@King of The Zinger Sure, and who do you think is going to risk war with Russia for a few planes?

[@applianceman6194]

@@davidjennings2179 War with Russia would be as easy as taking Iraq. It is the nukes to worry about. Top point is that Russia should no longer have those weapons

[@TheVikingmythology]

You should NOT be on the open internet, go behind the Chinese fireall.

[@TyroneBeiron]

Interesting always to see how these will affect insurance actuary in the future.

[@watchman835]

Actuaries get more jobs.

[@andrewwong2605]

The USA have destined EU & UK to the scrap yard.

[@CG-ej8nu]

@@andrewwong2605 It is not their problem that they follow them around like dogs 🐕

[@karensheehan2878]

They will fall from the sky. No repair parts will be sold to them. We need to treat them like the pariah they are.

[@SK-lt1so]

No one will deal with Russian airlines. Russians can walk.

[@enx1214]

The one steals the other. 😂 Great guys thanks for a beautiful 2022. Good work continue like that.

[@arthurchonyera7031]

Are sanctions legal?

[@Dmitry-Bonch]

the west stole venezuelian gold, you have short memory, this is pay back...

[@reddog5031]

Axis of Diesel rules!

[@tatianavorobiova8015]

Don't you remember Russia taking gold from Venezuela?

[@franklinegbuche7097]

This is ridiculous. You sanction Russia then complain they didn't handover planes on lease.

[@andrewawakened628]

Exactly! I fail to see how this is the fault of the Russian airlines or transportation industry. And I'm not supporting Russia or saying the sanctions shouldn't have been imposed, but just the airline companies have been put in an untenable position through no fault of their own. Even if they could arrange to return them, don't the sanctions mean that it would be impossible for them to get back the money they had paid in advance??? So how can they be expected to do that????

[@attsealevel]

The west froze over €600 billion worth of Russian central bank reserves. Russia, with no more reserve currency, missed its most recent interest payment 2 weeks ago. It now has 2 more weeks before that missed payment goes into default. Then, Russian intererest rates will skyrocket, the ruble will fall much further and oil and gas revenues are then tagged. Those leased planes are maybe worth 18 billion. Add to that all other assets frozen by Russia and you might have 28 billion. ( €600 b vs €28 ). Think Russia got short end of that stick.

[@nataliustan1793]

$300+B got seized is not problem. Seizing 500 airplanes worth $10B is BIG A** problem. This matter needs standing ovation from every corner of the world.

[@whitex4652]

Isn't there a secret remote self-destruction mechanism built in?

[@willgaston3726]

You forgot to mention that if leasing company unilaterally cancel a contract, The asset of that company could be seized.

[@TheMiloking]

And who told you that?

[@mineown1861]

Isn't unilateral when the contract has a force majeure clause and even your bus ticket has one of those .

[@willgaston3726]

@@mineown1861 A court would decide if the clause cover a political sanction and thank You for mentioning the clause.

[@mineown1861]

@@willgaston3726 That'd be a court in Bermuda , like shipping the law that governs the lease is the country of registration.

[@willgaston3726]

@@mineown1861 That's True.

[@reufuraque8771]

So if the companies are the ones doing the cancelling isnt it a breach of contract on their part? so russia can legally sue for compensation.

[@impaladba]

Yes - compensation that large at once will make those lease companies bankrupts in instant. I wonder why they are silent about this fact?

[@reufuraque8771]

@@impaladba Ikr,when my family business failed and we were unable to hold our end of the contract they took everything including our house,now that the big companies are unable to hold to the contract they cry foul.

[@chrisyorke6175]

Fair comment and brave. The Russian airlines aren't accused of breaching contract. The leasing companies are unilaterally cancelling contracts under orders from their own governments. IF anyone is breaching contracts, it is the foreign lessors. Moreover, sanctions prevent the parties from even negotiating a resolution. Even if Russia today made an outright payment for the aircraft, it could be frozen. So let's hold off the 'theft' accusations, for now. Lessors can blame their own governments for potential losses.

[@reufuraque8771]

@@basiltozer9078 Would have if we could have,unfortunately banks have very strident rules in regards to people making loans to start even small business,they demand collateral or no loans for you.

[@graemekeeley4497]

You take mine, I take yours Seems fair

[@farhadrazavi8941]

The biggest is to sign a contract for gas line and get out of it just like that

[@user-vo8ie8fy3d]

It's war, do you really expect them to play by the rules when you impose sanctions? What have you been thinking imposing such sanctions? What did you expect? Silent obedience? You got another thing coming.

[@thomasautengruber8369]

Neither Boeing nor Airbus are going to sell another Aircraft to Russia if the goverment seize foreign owned planes. Let‘s see how that works out for you in 5 years time. No new cars, no tech, no aircraft…

[@srambrero]

yeah its a good lesson for no one to do any business there again in the future

[@ketelin4285]

@@thomasautengruber8369 Tbh the seizure of Moscow central bank assets of 630 bil is a ridiculously bigger than the seizure of 10 bil in planes .

[@akoj3262]

@@srambrero Its a good lesson not to put all yr eggs in EU and USA because there are no forever friends or enemies.

[@marhuny]

@@thomasautengruber8369 that is in 5 years time we are more interested what EU is going to do for gas ⛽️ in the coming may 27 😂

[@j4v-cyberpunk-music]

I feel so bad asking this. Is that the answer to the arrested Yachts of the Russian business men and how many Russian newspapers did call the Yachts arrest part of the sanctions also theft? Further more I wonder if Russia payed for the leasing contracts in Euros they got from Gas delivery. Besides, why would European leasing companies use the Bahamas for selling airplanes produces in Europe and how much taxes did they steel from Europe? Is the fleet of the same value as the Yachts?? PS: Do you thing you can nick em back anytime soon?

[@littleangel9635]

Great true👌

[@Alex-pj8nz]

Agree, it’s for revenge for the sanctions.

[@spsparhar]

Truth is all international agreements are agreements till they serve particular countries interests. More international agreements are broken than honored. Countries like to project humane, moral principles but when policy collides with reality, it's law of the jungle. Rest is justification for captive populations. Consider the No of people killed in the name of democracy in Syria, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Yemen.

[@spsparhar]

And then 10 years later, teary eyed Blair says sorry, bad int, no WMD in Iraq. They destroyed it so thoroughly to loot its oil that Iraq has no Govt for the last year

[@anti-emo4721]

You are naive! Physically seizing Russian assets is the only way Ukraine will get its deserved war reparations! While Germany is still paying ww2 reparations, Russians don't. They will never pay anyone anything, forget about it!

[@hanselbers6987]

Smart af

[@JASHVEER22]

When west seized Russia USD and EUR reserves it is sanctions when the latter mirrors their actions it is theft😂😂

[@norwegianboyee]

"But my lord? Is that leegal?" Palpatine: "I will make it legal."

[@ualrdyknowaitiz]

I love hearing the inside ⚾ on topics I don't know much about

[@slavikrogozins691]

This is why people need to think first and do after, and not let's do something quick

[@ReaperKing705]

Biggest theft? You seize their stuff they can seize yours 😂

[@turcoboshnak]

I am sorry but doesn't freezing a country's assets worth $300 Billion count as theft also?

[@geoopolis]

I’m sorry, was the $300B frozen before or after Russia decided to invade a sovereign country and kill thousands of innocent civilians?

[@marynamalitskaya3534]

Noooo 😂😂😂 This is for us

[@JumpDiffusion]

No, it's not. Do you understand the reason and purpose of sanctions?

[@alanramone4263]

the hypocrisy of the west

[@BeerOverIP]

No. Freezing assets is not theft, since a reversal or a halt to Russia's current actions will unfreeze their assets again.

[@odhonarmand644]

best thing Russia can do is nationalizing foreign assets , EU and US needs the taste of their colonial food... way to go

[@ABBADiego]

🤣 I dare you to book a ticket on Aeroflot in 4 months and survive.

[@mursalwarsame5839]

@@ABBADiego 🤣😂🌬

[@maxmustermann9587]

@@ABBADiego You do know Аэрофлот does exist since 1923?

[@mickeymouse8692]

@@ABBADiego is that a terrorist threat are you going to blow up the plane

[@gakushuu5]

Didn't we freeze their currency reserves for over 385billion??? You talk about 10bl.

[@Freedom9X]

Yeah and the EU bombed Russia right? A no wait Russia is destroying Ukraine right now, put I guess you forgot it while searching your brain.

[@stephenkwik7548]

How do you expect the Russians to keep up with the instalment payments for the planes?

[@kman5768]

Really dudes! How much is the west holding up Russian cash. What about Venezuela and let’s not bring Iran into the equation. Do your homework and stop lying!

[@ismailfarooq.]

fr

[@donaldducksaverussia8923]

"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

[@sclogse1]

So, Will should have slapped Chris after the show?

[@ShamanKish]

@@sclogse1 That was all rigged. Just like the whole politics.

[@the_kombinator]

@@ShamanKish Someone with a brain. I refuse to watch even a KZbin clip of it BTW. You should hear some of the local woke radio what-if'ing the whole situatiuon: What if Smith slapped a white man? Really? Interracial violence is bad, but assault on the same race is good? I fear the kind of world that my son will have to face.

[@cornebod]

USA, USA,USA villains till the end🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@zodiaczone5107]

@@cornebod One sided brain. 😂😂😂

[@ndorobei4391]

Sanction will beget sanction.

[@jtt2512]

Typical double standard : I can do it but you can not do it, otherwise you are accused breaking the rules.

[@AaronOkeanos]

I guess this means Russian Flight companies will either no more get leases or for a much higher price in the future.

[@gregkvye6006]

Or make their own planes. Their technology is superior to west in ✈ aspect.

[@simplyyellow6240]

Its their own fault. The sanction prevent russia from fly it outside to europe or USA.

[@gouravfromuk]

Once the war is over, they will come running for business.

[@vicmercd9136]

@@gregkvye6006 They already started...If they do it jointly with China, that would be the end of Boeing and Airbus dominance.

[@haoadams]

Who cares? Not Many airplane manufacturer in the world cares, they care about profit. They are too big to fail employee many people off taxpayer funded military complex. You have zero rights as an employee if you work for a large Corp. If you risk the military contract by reporting they do all they can to hide their liability. Even firing you, because you don't have the money of Corp America to obtain justice.

[@paulwhat322]

Don't worry, no matter what happens, we the taxpayers will always foot the bill. Do these companies aren't worried.

[@TheOpenedScrollMinistry]

Why should Russia listen to EU who are sanctioning them?

[@lindachamuel5098]

And we all no that Russia did nothing wrong! Stop victimizing them!

[@wiryantirta]

Russia would make the best episode of Repo Man ever.