Germany faces energy dilemma | DW News

[@ArmHope]

Imagine saying building Nuclear is too late, this same guy wouldn’t apply that to saving the environment… perhaps he’s not a honest person

[@HybridHumaan]

It is too late though. 17 years for a new plant to go online is insane. What do we do in the mean time?

[@magellannh645]

Non need to impugn his integrity. It's just a disagreement. He's about right on the timeline I think, especially for large nuclear (which is specifically what he's talking about). SMRs could help out a lot sooner if the early builds go to plan, but they're not as proven yet so it's not a sure bet. Poland just ordered 3 AP1000s, and something like that seems like maybe a sensible plan for Germany, along with continued monitoring of what's happening with SMRs.

[@m.e.345]

He is probably not familiar with the obstacles towards restarting Germany's existing nuclear generating stations.. which is quite possibly as a result of an underlying bias.

[@rufusvardag8190]

​@HybridHumaan 🥶 Freezing ....🤒

[@HybridHumaan]

@@rufusvardag8190 i am quiet good. My german city invested big time in geothermal energy production for the district heating network. Its cozy right now! 😂

[@80-80.]

Yes, it’s not too late, we need tons of energy in the future.

[@richardv9648]

Why do you need heat to warm your house, for centuries, your ancestors survived on warm clothes, not district heating.

[@JeDxDeVu]

They also only lived until they were 40

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

In the UK, construction of Hinkley Point C has been ongoing since 2013 (with planning starting even earlier), and it won’t be completed before 2031. The project’s costs have already ballooned to £50 billion, including substantial subsidies, making it a major failure. Imagine how many renewable energy projects, grid improvements, and storage solutions could have been implemented more quickly and effectively with that amount of money. The same in France. No thank you.

[@benjaminlamey3591]

@@richardv9648 well, what about Cloud and AI, that everybody is taking about, these require ginormous amount of electricity. same for steel, concrete, mineral refining (for batteries for example) or you prefer importing it all from the US and China, until they get unfriendly and you have to apply sanction and screw yourself one more time ?

[@tomvandenbossche4733]

Shutting down all nuclear power plants , while relying on Russian gas was probably one of the dumbest things ever in German politics...

[@AmonTheWitch]

but but but nuclear scary 🥺

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

Well to be honest, no one in Europe really thought Urin would go nuts like this

[@QueenetBowie]

Right, that’s the issue, they didn’t see it coming even though the US from Bush, to Obama, to Trump, to Biden all warned them for years “Russia is dangerous, don’t rely on them.” European leaders ignored those warnings for decades, and now they’re paying for it.

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

@@QueenetBowie well bush, Obama and trump motive was manly to sell their own (more expansive) gas.

[@jannisarie]

OMG.. This just gets better and better.. We can't do nuclear because it will take too long but let's invest huge amounts in green hydrogen and upgrading the grid...

[@Aksh-w3b]

Nuclear can only be functional after complete complition, but green energies compound. Build more green, you'll get energy immediately and with more energy it becomes easier to just keep building....and grid system is essentially with or without nuclear

[@hrundgren4352]

@@Aksh-w3b Intermittent energies like wind and solar do not "compound" well. Ten thousand or fifty thousand wind turbines make no difference it there is no wind one week. It will not be enough. Even if we factor in all the dead birds we can burn as "biofuel". ;) In the night time a thousand solar panels or ten thousand solar panels generate the same amount of energy. And don't tell that HUGE and environmentally unfriendly batteries will store the excess. If there is no excess to store (multiple scenarios for that) that is just another dumb and expensive solution.

[@Toxiclabanalyst]

I cannot believe what I just heard. This “expert” claims every solution to be too late. So what’s his solutions then? This mentality is why Germany has fallen behind on VE.

[@John8087]

@@Aksh-w3b Wind and solar farms sprawl like an American suburb. Does Germany have enough space? Where is all the raw materials gonna come from? Where will you get energy to run the open pit mines and the factories to build all this "green" energy.

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

In the UK, construction of Hinkley Point C has been ongoing since 2013 (with planning starting even earlier), and it won’t be completed before 2031. The project’s costs have already ballooned to £50 billion, including substantial subsidies, making it a major failure. Imagine how many renewable energy projects, grid improvements, and storage solutions could have been implemented more quickly and effectively with that amount of money. The same in France. No thank you.

[@ErnstSwanepoel]

Green Hydrogen will be Germany's 2nd Nuclear blunder.

[@John8087]

Hydrogen is very explosive, not like other gases that can burn slow and more controlled.

[@germanmartinez1976]

H2 is the EUs psychological problem

[@JakeCKim-sh6dz]

The whole 'green transition' was a kumbaya pie in the sky, but then the Germans can be dogmatic even when they're heading straight towards self-destruction.

[@MrBrew4321]

And meanwhile everyone will have an opinion and the politicians will try to talk the situation to death and it'll all keep getting stupider.

[@jentulj9611]

The Greens is the biggest culprit in destroying this great nation called Germany.

[@Toxiclabanalyst]

How closed-minded is it to say 10 years is too long to build nuclear plant! Policy manner should not just focus on the next 4 years, but decades.

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

10 years? In the uk they build hinkley point c since 2013 (planning startet even earlier) and they won’t finish before 2031. They are already at £50 billion (!) including massive subsidies. It’s a big failure. How many renewables, grid improvement and storage could have been built with that money in a shorter time period?

[@Joseph_thefather]

He is bought by the coal lobby…

[@jannisarie]

So he uses the UK as an example of a country that built a nuclear plant and it took too long and then uses it as an example of a country who no longer uses coal and has cleaner energy.

[@John8087]

Sweden, Finland and France all recently finished new reactors. These are coincidentally also the countries exporting more than they import.

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

Hinkley Point C, proposed in the early 2000s and under construction since 2016, has faced criticism for delays, soaring costs, and its financial impact. Initially estimated at £20 billion, the project now costs £46 billion, with UK consumers bearing additional costs through a high guaranteed electricity price of £92.50 per megawatt-hour for 35 years. Critics highlight its environmental risks, reliance on unproven reactor technology, and argue the funds could be better spent on renewables. The project, now delayed to 2029, raises doubts about its role in the UK’s energy transition.

[@KurtQuad]

Meanwhile, China can build them in 5-7 years and is planning to build 150 of them between 2020 and 2035.

[@jentulj9611]

China's construction workers do not sleep, they work 24/7...

[@John8087]

China is a bad example though because it's the land of cheaters and shortcuts. That said, fast track all bureaucracy, make it high priority and build properly and it'll be up and running in 10 years. And that's for brand new plants, we already have existing plants were new reactors can be added, which will be faster. France is mass producing small modular reactors, if only enough countries order them.

[@Redrot272]

Germany has not only hurt the entire EU energy marketing, but makes it seem that people that care about carbon emissions are acting irrationally. Nuclear power is also one of SAFEST when you compare deaths to /kW. Just a huge step backwards. Wind power: approximately 11 g CO2e/kW Nuclear power: approximately 12 g CO2e/kWh Solar power: around 41 g CO2e/kWh Coal: 740-1689 g CO2e/kWh.

[@Ivanna_Jerkov]

"Germany faces energy dilemma" You are just picking up on this? What did you think would happen after the pipeline blew up?

[@stevendonovan9762]

It's not just an energy crisis, it's an identity crisis. If not green then who are you?

[@gvibration1]

The Greens have no substance. They're protesters. Anything bad for the West is good. That's as deep as they go.

[@pumrel]

Nuclear wouldn’t be that expensive if there were will to pour money into it as it is into renewables.

[@rodcostav]

This guy... 20% renewables and the whole country is going down the drain.... His solution: let's increase it more to achieve 100% Oh and when he says big efforts, he means that people will suffer. Him not included. Clown 🤡

[@John8087]

Two minutes later he says 50%. We'll never know because it keeps changing between 1% to 40%, and we never have energy when needed. But in his clown world, everyone can drive an EV. 🤡🌎

[@magellannh645]

@@John8087 - The chart at the beginning was all primary energy used for everything. It had renewables at 20%. Later, they were talking about the electric grid. In 2024, renewables generated around 62% of electricity in Germany. Using primary energy just confuses things imo. For example, only 30% of the energy in gasoline actually propels the car while the rest is wasted as heat. If the petrol fleet gets swapped out for EVs, primary energy use drops by 15% right off the bat due to the higher efficiency of motors versus engines. For more info google "primary energy demand fallacy."

[@Toxiclabanalyst]

“Too late to build nuclear plant”???! Keep saying that and Germany will become a vintage shop! This mindset is so close-minded and short-sighted

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

In the uk they build hinkley point c since 2013 (planning startet even earlier) and they won’t finish before 2031. They are already at £50 billion (!) including massive subsidies. It’s a big failure. How many renewables, grid improvement and storage could have been built with that money in a shorter time period?

[@germanmartinez1976]

Yes please. Small Modular Reactors is the way. Hope someone pushes that forward.

[@Leifthrasir]

The answer is to build small modular reactors (SMR), they are generation 3 & 4 reactors that are about the size of a bus, they can be built quickly and cheaply, mass produced in factories (so lots of jobs) and can be transported to areas where they are needed.

There is no real proof that they will actually be as good, or cheap as promised.

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

Yes they are so cheap and fast to built, they build hundreds of them since years in… em, I forgot where that was… maybe in another galaxy ;)

[@Leifthrasir]

@@stevethewindsurfer8911 Numerous Countries in the EU and around the world are building them right now.

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

@@Leifthrasir Yes like In the UK. The construction of Hinkley Point C has been ongoing since 2013 (with planning starting even earlier), and it won’t be completed before 2031. The project’s costs have already ballooned to £50 billion, including substantial subsidies, making it a major failure. Imagine how many renewable energy projects, grid improvements, and storage solutions could have been implemented more quickly and effectively with that amount of money. Plans are fine, the reality is different. ;)

[@petrsparking8816]

The main reason why Germany still depends on export of fosel fules is that Germany still does have production 😂

[@carlograncini]

Thanks for the clear insight. Nuclear is still a taboo in Germany. Nuclear takes too long. Renewables are the solution even if we do not know how to overcome their limitations.

[@magellannh645]

Grid operators are very good at overcoming the limitations of renewables and they're getting better, especially now with help from cheap batteries. Nuclear will be welcomed back if they can just get their build cost and build time problems under control. Everyone is hoping they can do that with SMRs. But in the meantime, there's not much to be done because SMRs are not ready to mass deploy yet until after the current round of pilot/test builds gets finished. Sure, Germany could start a small number of AP1000s like Poland is doing. That'd probably make sense just in case SMRs don't pan out. But realistically it's not going to move the needle much in the next 10-20 years. Meanwhile, Germany got over 62% of its electricity from renewables in 2024. The technology to do 90 or 95% renewables is fully baked and ready to deploy today. We can use gas or coal for that last 10% (eg those low wind periods). Using gas peaker plants that only run a hundred or two hours a year is how the grid works today so it's a tried and true model. Getting to 100% is a much tougher problem without some new tech (like SMRs, advanced geothermal, carbon capture, hydrogen, etc), but we can solve that problem once we get closer to 90-95%.

[@gumby7919]

Looks like Germany will build coal plants

[@aditj]

I can't believe this guy thinks they'll complete the R&D and build-out on green hydrogen quicker than building new nuclear reactors.

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

Hydrogen production is easy and safe, compared to nuclear power. They already do it in small numbers in northern Germany. More is on its way. It takes some time, but not 30 years like a new power plant (see hinkley point c)

[@aditj]

@stevethewindsurfer8911 And you're going to power the hydrogen production with what energy? Wind and solar? And even if producing the hydrogen is easy, it is a pain to keep stored. Maybe you could re-allocate the investment in green hydrogen to streamlining the production and certification of new reactors?

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

@@aditj we don’t want brew reactors, nor do we need them long term. Germany already generates significant excess energy from renewables, with 65% of electricity coming from wind and solar in early 2024. In times of low demand, wind turbines sometimes have to be turned off, wasting energy. For example, in 2023, about 10.5 terawatt-hours (TWh) of renewable energy were curtailed due to lack of storage or grid capacity. To address this, existing natural gas infrastructure is being converted for hydrogen storage, with projects like Uniper’s aiming for up to 600 GWh of hydrogen storage by 2030. These efforts will help store excess energy and ensure a stable supply.

[@aditj]

@@stevethewindsurfer8911 Best of luck with that! I have a feeling that you may experience a significant increase in electricity prices, but maybe I'm wrong. You can always buy electricity from French reactors if it doesn't work out!

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

@@aditj France provides significant subsidies to its nuclear sector, including €2.1 billion in 2022 for EDF and €8 billion under the “France 2030” plan for nuclear projects. Many nuclear plants operate at a loss, as they sell energy below production costs due to price regulations. This will change next year, as the cost of nuclear energy is set to rise, allowing EDF to charge more for its electricity. So price wise France won’t be a reliable source in the long term. But hydrogen is only one part of the game. We already shift a lot of energy to Norway and back…

[@dlewis8405]

What about refurbishment of the nuclear plants that were decommissioned in the last few years? I would bet that the majority were just mothballed rather than demolished.

Firstly, its not that simple. Secondly,this was afaik about 6GW of generation, which in the grand scheme is not that much.

[@jeroenroodbol3710]

What a clown 🤡

[@Ismerich]

Short term, yes, its cheaper to invest more in "renewables" but nuclear more than makes up for its upfront cost with longevity, efficiency, and the facts it's the only on-demand clean energy 24/7/365 outside certain geothermal sources, which is very limited in its reach, and hydroelectric, but that is susceptible to droughts. Also, love the idea, "it's too late for nuclear, but how about instead we invest in renewable technology and energy storage that we don't have, doesn't exist yet on the scale we need, and has no timeframe on reaching those points. These are reasonable, but nuclear power we know is just impossible."

[@noworriesnoproblems6382]

Do what we do in the UK. All huddle together and try to make it through the night

[@duncanstewart6381]

The reunification gives me hope for Germany 🇩🇪. This winter will demonstrate their resolve and innovations for gas and coal imports and use for electric capabilities. A major G7 partner and EU supporter and leader and NATO allies for life.

[@Hukkinen]

Change the electricity meters centrally to smart meters to enable hourly measurement and consumption incentive. That's never happening now, when everybody has to do that by themselves.

[@meanlife7358]

This is what happens when you sell your soul 😢😢😢

[@-Nobody-1]

When germans struggle economically it always get worrying. Strongest industry snd engineering in Europe. Everyone around the world will be watching the upcoming election.

[@A3Kr0n]

Nobody mentions our need to grow exponentially in a finite world because there are no solutions.

[@nyalekambombo4893]

There is a say in Swahili goes like, mwiba wa kujidunga hauna pole.

[@ATkittenslover]

it was a terrible mistake to shut down the power plants and ti put all eggs in one basket by getting fossil fuel from a sole supplier. I wonder if those who are responsible for it should be held accountable

[@bonkersblock]

Burning lignite coal isn’t really very good alternative to Russian gas! 😂 furthermore! The sun doesn’t shine in Germany! Solar saturation in that country is like turning on a flashlight until it runs out of battery!

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

Solar is just fine here. I’m getting 75% (per year) of my electricity from my solar roof, including heating (heat pump) in northern Germany.

[@mimikrya8794]

With all these stories about a successful green transition, the production and consumption of fossil fuels are reaching records. 😂

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

Nope, it’s going down since decades. Also in Germany.

[@Cadcare]

"Kalte Dunkelflaute" - I learnt a new phrase and it has an English Wikipedia page too! (8:35).

[@jannisarie]

It's too late to build Nuclear, but let's go with more renewables, build large-scale storage, and redesign our whole grid. We can do that tomorrow :)

[@HybridHumaan]

We are actually doing that TODAY lol

[@atrumluminarium]

It's not too late. Energy demand will keep growing so any time a reactor will make it to the grid it will almost certainly be welcome.

[@gvibration1]

​@@atrumluminarium I think the comment was in sarcasm font.

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

In the uk they build hinkley point c since 2013 (planning startet even earlier) and they won’t finish before 2031. They are already at £50 billion (!) including massive subsidies. It’s a big failure. How many renewables, grid improvement and storage could have been built with that money in a shorter time period?

[@gvibration1]

@stevethewindsurfer8911 China builds them in 5yrs.

[@jameswhiteaker6430]

The Germans just have to do more with less. Which means more for the rest of us energy consumers.

[@heidelbergaren5054]

Well, Germany is currently leading in Fusion Energy which is technically “nuclear” but not what you are talking about

[@abrakadavra3193]

The best fusion tech still uses 100 x the energy it produces so i wouldn't count on it

[@Leifthrasir]

@@abrakadavra3193 Keep an eye on ITER, it's supposed to be the first Fusion reactor to produce more power than required.

[@atrumluminarium]

In order to support an economy that permits fusion research, you need a power grid that can keep up with the consequential energy demand. Especially in a country that prides itself on its manufacturing and heavy industry.

[@ordningsmannen]

Germany is leading the hippies race towards the stoneage.,

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

Since 40 years they say fusion will be ready in 10 years. I don’t want to waste another 40 years waiting.

[@NoHandleToSpeakOf]

Dilemma? What dilemma?

[@0515rnein]

World Nuclear Association About 65 reactors are under construction across the world. About 90 further reactors are planned. Shutting down nuclear powerplants in germany and buying nuclear power from neighboring countries is insanity!

[@stickynorth]

Canada and the USA have both planned to triple their nuclear capabilities... In my home town alone they are picking out SMR sites... Deciding between 3 different ones...

[@HybridHumaan]

Worldwide nuclear production is on a downward trajectory dor decades now when you put it in relation to the higher energy demand.

[@gvibration1]

​@@stickynorth China even more so.

[@mistervo8185]

Why abandoned nuke energy in the first place? Did some Russian oligarchs say Russian gas is better or something?

[@atrumluminarium]

Pretty much yes. And then some baseless fear mongering from environmental activists was the cherry on the cake

[@Joseph_thefather]

It was the fossil fuel lobby… the greens are not very green

[@maxwellmkandawire3162]

Whho sanctions Russia energy,who is paying the price,who is the source of struggle

[@dirgsuite5546]

We need all types of energy and we need to trade with those who can supply the cheapest energy. No other continent would have even considered the EU leaders reaction, cutting themselves off from the most affordable supplier. Europe just lacks the energy reserves, it can't win by weaponizing energy. You can't win poker when those at the table know how weak your cards are.

[@JeDxDeVu]

Fine then it takes a long time

[@benjaminlamey3591]

Restarting the stopped NPP is not realistic, the decommisioning has started and they are being dismantled. that option is gone. Building new NPP is indeed a long process, especially in a country where everybody is against it. I do not see that happening in germany. But if the Cloud and AI take off, there will be ginormous needs for electricity, NPP would probably be a good option. Renewable is not cheaper per MWh t the end of life, but it is a much lower Capex to start. and building a 4,5 MWc wind turbine is quite quick, even if it produces at the end an average of 1MW. I agree that the order was wrong. I also agree that the grid and the storage definitely need to be built up.

[@karlstriepe8050]

Zuruck zu Nuklear!

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

Nein danke.. dauert zu teure, ist zu lange, man ist wieder abhängig vom Ausland und einem endlichen Rohstoff. Das ist keine Zukunftstechnologie.

[@AbcDef-xh8ll]

Jan Rosenow is very unqualified. He should not be interviewed...

[@Voxabonable]

I'm sorry but both of them do look like amateur Bond villains.

[@InfectedCreations]

Big companies like Tata Steel. Data centers which uses lots of power wil go abroad if they don,t have the power they need. And if the energy prices are to high.... The more companies leave, the more dependent you become on imports and the easier you are to manipulate by the big players. The EU Commission needs a little more commercial spirit. What does the green deal yield in euros?...

[@Huu159]

7:10 1... hier kommt die Sonne 2.. hier kommt die Sonne.!!

[@dreamhunter2973]

No one ine asked you to build new plants. Just do not clise old Nuclear plants!

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

That’s what he said. But even if we didn’t close the existing plants, they did not produce that much energy and had massive costs associated with them. All of them were already running longer than what they were designed for.

[@AurediumRiptide]

So...nuclear energy is expensive and takes long. Yet renewable energy is cheap but requires expensive investments in the energy grid (Which it does I can inform you) and also takes a long time. It seems someone is very hard trying to sell green energy instead of nuclear. We here have been saying for literal years that Germany made a big mistake closing the nuclear power-plants after Fukushima.

[@magellannh645]

Nuclear will also benefit from those grid investments. One of nuclear's challenges is that it really wants to run 24/7 to be most economical, but grid load is ever-changing. With advanced grid solutions like demand response, batteries, and VPPs, grids will be in much better shape to handle nuclear running steady 24/7.

[@johnhigh2187]

"Energy transition Optimist" = "Grifter who is attempting to augment his influence/finances by discrediting the existing less than optimal but functioning system. He knows better than you, how you should live your life."

[@grantbuttenshaw]

Way to avoid the question...never did she say new nuclear....you are a weird bloke mate...

[@gvibration1]

Greens have no substance.

[@madhu4125]

Guys like thease people are the main villian.

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

Blabla. Come up with some facts.

[@Hukkinen]

Upgrade the grid and fix the old nuclear power plants, which has smaller CARBON FOOTPRINT than in building new ones. In fact, you have to use up all the carbon investment put into those power plants. Yes, the overhaul was due before shutdown but do it. It's materially simpler. If you say it's the regulation, your shooting yourself in the foot. All the best.

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

It’s not simpler. These things are oooold. Tech from the last millennium and not up to what is required today. The same money could be spend better with quicker results.

[@Petch85]

Does EU spend more money on Russian energy or military defense of Ukraine?

[@eckhardkemp6899]

20 times the amount of the actual installed pv-power and we are on top worldwide with cheap energy. It could be done with a built up of an own PV production or with chinese imports. I tend to built up an own industry along the built up.

[@Mountainclimber-zv4u1]

You made your bed now lie in it

[@micaeloliveira2727]

Germany can make long term contracts with France for energy. Invest in Spain and Portugal to solar power and cheap Algerian gas problem is that Portugal and Spain are not connected to the European grid 😂😂😅 we are living with low energy costs. Hope we never get connected to the European grid

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

Haha. Energy demand in Spain is much lower than in Germany. The French people already have to subsidies their nuklear plants and it will get much more expensive next year.

[@1fan164]

Please no more transmission lines despoiling the pristine countryside.

[@davidnadel9679]

He did not answer about restarting the existing nuclear and coal plants. As far as EVs, German engineers can do the math and electricity does not grow on trees! There was a minister in the previous government who pushed for fracking. Far be for me to you what to do, but use what you have and what you did in the past that did not require subsidies.

[@QueenetBowie]

This dude just doesn’t like Nuclear, he keeps avoiding the question lol “Should they restart shuttered nuclear plants?” “Building new plants doesn’t make sense.” “Should they have not shut down nuclear?” “They shut down coal fired, nuclear should’ve come after.” Remember when we all thought Germany was the most competent country….

[@nonlethalbizzle]

Green energy has to be backed up by a baseline source of energy like nuclear or fossil fuel because there will be always spikes in demand and occasions when there is too little wind and sunlight

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

Gas and coal aren’t the only solutions for times without wind or sun. Excess renewable energy can be stored in pumped hydro systems, like Germany sending power to Norway’s reservoirs. Battery storage and green hydrogen also store energy for later use, providing cleaner, reliable alternatives to fossil fuels.

[@jamesheath7596]

This man talks tosh

[@gromotion933]

Repeating the nuclear nonsens BS doesnt make it better.

[@davidnadel9679]

I disagree. The inflation reduction act ( over $1 trillion) was passed on a straight party line vote. I hope it gets repealed in full by summer. Renewables cause the electrical grid to be very unstable.

[@stevethewindsurfer8911]

The claim that renewables make the U.S. grid unstable is misleading. While wind and solar are variable, tools like energy storage, demand response, and improved forecasting keep the grid stable. Many issues, like blackouts, stem from aging infrastructure and extreme weather, not renewables. States like California and Texas show that renewables can be reliably integrated with proper planning. If all you do is care about your short 80 years on earth, then continue to burn your coal.

[@stephanl2409]

What a nice guest

[@rufusvardag8190]

What....?+?

[@stereomtl9001]

you can't make this s**t up 😂😂😂

[@sureshtharakan535]

Germanyhadoneofthemostadvancedanfsophisticatednuclearindustrybeforemerkelshutdownthewholethingitwascrazywithoutanalternative

[@kalaupun]

nonsense

[@janisvaga882]

You should be smart!

[@janisvaga882]

You nevet answer, even is from youtube want contact you!