South Korea: Jeju Air plane skidded off runway, killing at least 47 people | DW News

[@kevinyancey958]

It's now believed that the two people rescued are the only survivors. It's no longer considered a rescue operation but a recovery and identification.

[@Baldnesz]

How very sad.

[@Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez]

ILS, VOR autocrat tampering.

[@karloyu3484]

❤

[@johndoe-g6f]

imagine those 2 peoples mind right now being the only survivors

[@vivianledonghae4eify]

😢😢

[@stoneonfire50]

Sadly the Korean fire department reported that 179 people were assumed as dead and only 2 were rescued

[@JordanTheMann]

Tragic. Thanks for the correction.

[@wpn-k8d]

True.

[@Thatonepersonyouheard]

Horrible

[@happymelon7129]

🙏🙏🙏

[@조우찬-j2o]

@@julee3136 소방서에서 2명 제외 사망이라 했어요

[@andrewwilkey6195]

If I hear another news source blame a crash on a bird I’m going to lose my mind.

[@aeronalba6571]

This channel cooperates with the Russian FSB. Therefore, the narrative is the same as theirs. Poor birds.

[@eudaenomic]

1. It wasn't the Russians stating it 2. It occurred at an elevation where it is known to happen.

[@toflex-chan]

Poor birds just started learning what it feels like to get blamed for crashes.

[@dalton6230]

You may not believe it but it is main issues cause engine eruption

[@andrewwilkey6195]

@@dalton6230 brother I fly jets for a living. A bird through the engine doesn’t effect the landing gear.

[@craig7350]

Birds getting a lot of unwarranted blame this week.

[@JelMain]

737

[@kevink3688]

It was clearly the fence that caused the crash, but the media are trying to pin the blame on the bird. smh.

[@wabdinur]

@@kevink3688 1:06

[@westtxmutt]

Bird Flu

[@wabdinur]

Birds need better lawyers like Boeing.

[@kaijusushi8165]

It didn't skid off the runway. It did a belly landing, overran and crashed through a solid barrier at the end of the runway due to high landing speed with no brakes, reverse thrusters or flaps to slow it down. It exploded because it was still carrying fuel, none of which should have happened without pilot error.

[@burprobrox9134]

Wow an expert in the comments, I’m shocked

[@gallopingd7478]

It did have reverse thrust on.

[@thatguy7085]

Fuel dump… nah… we’ll make it

[@PedroHenriquePS00000]

​@@burprobrox9134but he has a point, the plane is weirdly fast, no spoilers visible, although reversers were open idk if they were active. This is a WEIRD crash.

[@fahmihidayat3874]

The weirdest thing is, why does the pilot lift the nose even after landing? Is he trying something? He should crawl with a full belly for additional friction, thus reducing speed effectively.

[@PIL-t3x]

Did not circle to reduce fuel, 3km long runway, crashed into an earth embarkment 150m after end runway -- at high speed. Many questions.

[@sierramikekilo6925]

Really, really strange. Medical emegency I think was the reason for not reducing fuel, but still, the rest was really strange.

[@brendanroberts4866]

Low cost say no more

[@mrtee3477]

It took off from BKK they dont filled up all the way.

[@99dynasty]

@@sierramikekilo6925who had a medical emergency?

[@fahmihidayat3874]

The weirdest thing is, why does the pilot lift the nose even after landing? Is he trying something? He should crawl with a full belly for additional friction, thus reducing speed effectively.

[@moreinterference]

The flaps aren't down, the power to the engine is still high. It's not just an issue with gear. Look at the speed the aircraft is moving at compared to a regular landing. This was some kind of massive technical failure.

[@4869479]

Pray tell, where can you see that?

[@DistractedTrader]

If the flaps weren't down as you said - the minimum landing speed would be 30% higher than normal to maintain lift on approach. This would make it hard to set it down - possible why they had a late landing.

[@jamesm568]

It looks like reverse thrusters were engaged.

[@Fear.of.the.Dark.]

spoilers are also not up after landing

[@Aeoniik]

Massive pilot failure more like.

[@RoughRaiders13]

I'm a former aviation technician. A bird strike would never cause a gear failure. I find it extremely odd that the pilots tried to land on that runway knowing that the gear was up and that there was a barrier at the end of the runway that they were more than likely going to crash into. I'd be really interested to see what the official report on this is but seeing as it happened in South Korea we may never know. My best guess though without knowing any other details is that maybe the gear indicators lit up when the pilots flipped the gear switch so they believed that the gear was in the down position and didn't realize the gear was up until it was too late.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@consortiumxf]

Did you also notice the flaps/slats were *not* deployed? If there was an issue with the hydraulics, the gear can still drop manually, but flaps/slats are controlled by hydraulics, correct? Edit to add: Since the plane was manufactured in the US, I believe that means the NTSB will be involved in the investigation along with South Korean aviation authorities.

[@P4YNT3R199]

aparantly they did a go around because the gear didnt deploy then tried to preform a gear up landing. Also will be interested to see why they didnt divert or hold a pattern to reduce fuel. I'm guessing the hydraulics issue must have been more serious than just the gear and it wasn't safe to remain airborne.

[@akad5000]

You said you are an aviation technician but with your analysis, I doubt down. When a gear is coming down, the pilot will feel it. Besides, d pilot has done a go round becoz d gear was not down and I think they are already out of time and dey hv to land. I think he shud hv looked for a water to land it

[@Hailey-e6f]

thoughts on it being a 737? was that a max jet?

[@styletokyo9888]

Yea but why weren’t the flaps up and why did they come in with so much speed. Plus they would notice the lack of the sound of the landing gear deploying…a lot of mysteries

[@DG-ie5ip]

Bird strike (to the engine) would not have caused landing gear malfunction... Very sad.

[@reubenmcmurray4377]

Its possible. But highly unlikely

[@nicholasmendonca1808]

@@reubenmcmurray4377its not

[@freezedeve3119]

must be Russian missile?

[@nicholasmendonca1808]

@ bruh

[@jessebreck9]

@@nicholasmendonca1808 If it caused a double engine failure the manual gear release could have failed

[@randomaccount53793]

Considering that the landing gear is designed to deploy in emergencies using gravity/air resistance alone, something must have gone very wrong.

[@PhatAmerican-w7w]

Do you think they got their brakes cut in Thailand?

[@Rasarel]

The fact that they didn't drop the fuel in order to burn everyone down speaks for something very sinister. They had plenty of time to drop the fuel to avoid an explosion and a fire 😅

[@John-p7i5g]

Belly landing is perfectly safe and should result in zero injuries let alone fatalities. Unless all 3 independent hydraulic systems simultaneously falled, this looks like serious pilot error, combined with criminal airport design. Who puts reinforced concrete at the end of a runway???

[@Brocambro1]

Never underestimate human being stupidity, who in their right mind would really built a brick wall at the end of a runway, how dumb is that idea?

[@FirstyPaul]

Only in Korea

[@yesmarioo]

That’s exactly what l thought. Why have a huge wall made of dirt at the end of a runway? It should be a flat surface for at least 500m if not even longer.

[@CerberusTenshi]

Multiple airports have that. It's a sound barrier to reduce the noise of the engines spooling up for take-off so the residents nearby aren't so bothered. There are newer systems these days, but not every airport uses them.

[@CerberusTenshi]

​@@FirstyPaul Your ignorance is astonishing.

[@lilycha9398]

What's perplexing isnt the wall, but the runway being of adequate length and somehow they oversped beyond it

[@rajfc]

South Korea needs a break

[@Novovodyane]

The world needs a break

[@FirstyPaul]

Kim is there saying to his people you see why I don’t let you fly it’s dangerous out there.

[@batprime1177]

The solar system needs a break

[@col4311]

They said theres only 2 survivors. That's gonna be some intense survivor's guilt with how many people have died. I hope they'll get through it.

[@baasheep4188]

Airport should consider a soft netting from blocking out of control plane hitting wall

[@syarifairlangga4608]

Money i think. Burned plane would get insurance. Broken planes are not ...

[@RevanHorner]

This is a toddler's approach to physics

[@dogsbecute]

@@RevanHorner lol you said it in a much nicer way than me, kudos

[@KhangNguyen-ij4xh]

I doubt it would work. The net gotta be as strong as like 500 spider-men to have a chance to stop something ramming at that speed

[@CerberusTenshi]

​@@KhangNguyen-ij4xh Some airport do deploy nets at the end of the runway for passenger planes. Given the weight, it's multiple nets. Other airports, the majority, have a special concrete at both ends of the runway that cumbles under the weight of the landing gear and gets it stuck. But that doesn't really work well, if it's a belly landing and the plane just skids over it.

[@thatguy7085]

Note to self… when designing an airport, don’t put a WALL at the end of the runway… 🙄

[@pharriz]

That "wall" is not at the end of the runway. Without a landing gear they skidded off the runway to the side

[@John-p7i5g]

​@@pharrizit is. Look on Google maps. It's right at the end of the runway. And behind it is empty for another 800- 1000 metres . There's what looks like a wrecking yard to the left and some allotments to the right. That's it for 1km before you get to houses.

[@rachmadsuhartono]

Now it's 62. I don't see any survivors from that

[@kgolart]

85

[@weesky2000]

@@kgolart No, all presumed or confirmed dead except 2 rescued. Latest news

[@kgolart]

@@weesky2000 85 confirmed, 2 survivors, rest presumed

[@ratman3752]

​@@kgolart there are only 2 alive,news says it btw just look at that footage

[@windssn3z]

179 they say

[@DTM45]

A bird goes into the engine and that stops the landing gear. Huh.

[@luntbanzi1967]

No one says a bird stops the landing gear

[@shiftygirl6434]

If the engine disintegrates, shrapnel can sever hydraulic lines, like those for the landing gear. So while improbable, especially with redundancy in these systems, it's not impossible that bird ingestion by an engine could affect landing gear operation

[@YeZhuang-by1cx]

R.I.P. Somehow it feels like the world is falling apart...😢

[@portalkey5283]

I feel that way too in the context of all that's happening worldwide, plus the recent plane crash caused by Russia's air defense. That said, I just learned that around 101,000 planes fly daily and it's rare to have accidents of this magnitude.

[@Morgan-yl3ou]

You need to look up ..."...elites / matrix trying to keep us in low with disasters " Many beleieve it is real The drones , orbs and uaps lately seen everywhere are part of the same agenda Call it conspiracies , but we have yet to be shown the truth about many things . So you could be right.. ..it certainly feels like ...there is something strange happening ... ..possibly on purpose

[@Kc_motivated]

It is falling apart and it’s so sad to see and be apart of.. honestly

[@FllixRouge]

Not Really 😮

[@johndoe-g6f]

nah this 2 are separate incident..azerbaijan was intentionally shot!! and this 1 is nothing new in terms of crashes its boeing 737 after all!!

[@lunaa764]

Horrible tragedy... I pray for the victims and their families.

[@mitchellsahl4555]

This plane was somehow still travelling at over nominal landing speed (80+ m/s) after 3km of runway to slow down. It is 265m from the end of the runway to the embankment it impacted, and it crossed that distance in 3.3s. How does this happen? There is massive incompetence involved here: mechanical troubles can't account for the pilots' failure to reduce speed.

[@nursuluplatt4229]

Deep condolences to South Korea and Thailand, and everyone affected by this tragedy. Speedy recovery to those alive.

[@ilovelimpfries]

Why didnt the pilots jettison the fuel before the 2nd attempt? The fire looks like the plane was carrying a substantial amount of fuel when it crashed.

[@tinkertanner9947]

From what I read somewhere else, this specific Boeing jet model, 737-800, cannot jettison fuel.

[@duaneyeoh4283]

narrowbodies cannot jettison fuel. only heavy widebodies can

[@ilovelimpfries]

@@duaneyeoh4283 oh, got it.

[@09shadowjet]

@@duaneyeoh4283 And not even all widebodies can. For example, not all Airbus A330 are equipped with fuel jettison system as it is an option from Airbus.

[@IllusiveDude]

@@nanakworld Thats not a max

[@johncarter1137]

This airport is surrounded by a concrete block wall, which is a bad design. The plane slid into the wall at the end of the runway.

[@rrudgoud7410]

earth berm

[@rubiconklbrutorowman7577]

Maintenance issue, such airline should NEVER have been permitted to operate!

[@brendanroberts4866]

Vote them out then

[@intrinsicimagery]

Nope. Bird strikes don’t vaporize landing gear. There must be some form of multiple system failures.

[@pharriz]

But a bird strike can cause a hydraulic system falure... Rarely, but it can.

[@rrudgoud7410]

What are missing cargo door "plug" bolts supposed to be connected to?

[@John-p7i5g]

​@@pharrizof all 3 systems? Seems unlikely

[@AFAuStolz]

You know what causes landing gear failure? No maintenance. And when does that happen most? When cheap airlines try saving costs. And what is Jeju air? A cheap airline.

[@georgeeagle872]

What a tragedy! The plane apparently landed without landing gear deployed. How was this possible is a mystery because the landing gear can be lowered manually

[@cynthiasmith4130]

Our sincere condolences to all on board..😢😢😢🙏🙏🙏.... Prayers for family and friends...From Michigan.....😢😢😢...

[@devenandplants7253]

If you Google "2024 in aviation", you'll notice Boeing being noticed as the plane brand that caused A LOT of accidents this year, it is official on wikipedia

[@mikegardens]

How horrific. Prayers and condolences to the passengers and their loved ones 🙏🏽

[@MenuMcBlue]

1.Control tower warned about bird strike. 2 1~2mins later the pilot called a Mayday. 3.On first landing attempt, the tower could not see the landing gear out and called for a Go around. 4.Pilot asks for an immediate emergency landing from the opposite direction of runway due to multiple malfunction including engines.5 the Pilot had to speed up the plane to keep it away from stalling at low altitude. Cabin was filled with toxic gas and amokes. He had to take down the plane ASAP then he performed wonderful belly landing but sadly there was nothing he can do to reduce the speed that quick until the plane hits the wall at high speed. Then Collision. That's it.

[@Shakyaman]

They must have been forced into that landing attempt... otherwise the plane would have spent hours flying around to get the gear down manually

[@lilycha9398]

You are right. They were forced to land because fire was spreading and the plane was getting filled with smoke and toxic gases.

[@John-p7i5g]

Possibly. They need to release CVR and ATC recordings

[@davewitter6565]

Not enough information. ATC transmissions, CVR and FDC should provide the answers.

[@justayoutuber1906]

It looks like if that wall (the localizer antennae) wasn't there, it would have slid safely.

[@strategy4406]

За стеной мог быть город

[@JRPGGUY]

So no security

[@goprocbr]

@@JRPGGUYI'm Mexican and I can tell you brick walls do not guarantee security.

[@jayfleegle9455]

The landing gear has nothing to do with a bird strike. They need to get their facts straight before they start making assumptions !! Otherwise it’s a very sad situation. I’m praying for the people and their families!!😢

[@lisakhoo594]

So so sad.. So much of these catastrophe😢 Let's pray for the souls.. 🙏

[@mr.chuckleteeth4382]

I cannot believe that 2 people survived this crash. Unbelievable

[@salteveline]

2 Survivors , 181 Passengers

[@pianowhizz]

From the speed of the crash, 2 may be technically ‘alive’ but I doubt they survived unscathed with minor injuries.

[@jobturkey7418]

Oh my god…

[@y6cd3sdzHs1g]

@@pianowhizz I'm guessing the 2 that were rescued were the two stews who sit on the folding seats at the very back of the plane; the tail section is intact. If that guess is right, there's a decent chance they made it out ok.

[@김성민-l9m]

​​@@y6cd3sdzHs1g 예 맞습니다. 생존자 두명은 후미 부분에 있던 승무원 2명입니다

[@davidgruss6295]

What? Gear issue. Come on. Did they declare an emergency? Check the circuit breakers, door panel and then drop the gear with the manual system. Something is terribly wrong with this crew.

[@YeahMan8]

Maybe crew tried that option and didn't work how we can know

[@stonew1927]

Crew intented a go around so obviously they were aware of issues and dealing with them, albeit unsuccessfully. Seen the video of the plane skidding down the runway on its belly and impacting the barrier and exploding. No flaps were deployed. This suggests that there were multiple failures, perhaps electrical or hydraulic.

[@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x]

​@stonew1927 thank you, finally a sane comment

[@tractordamage5272]

Did North Korea buy the Russian jamming systems? Maybe they were trying this out on Korean civilians. Far Left Psychopaths have No Empathy for their victims.

[@legitbeans9078]

DEI crew maybe

[@richieliper4720]

Earlier, a Philippine Airline plane also skidded off in Bacolod City airport runaway.. luckily, all passengers were safe.

[@KN-er3if]

I would like to express my condolences for the people who lost lives in this accident and offer my heartfelt sympathy for those affected by this accident.

[@sd560]

What a lousy way to end the year 😢💔💔💔💔😭😭😭😭😭 Rest in peace all those who perished 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Aki92-11]

Rest in peace.

[@kwangyonglee7686]

An extension of the airway has been planned at Muan International Airport. At 2800m (9186ft), with a projected of 3160m (10367ft) in 2025. Normally, this airport serves as an inland airport, but on December 2, 2024, a new air slot is available for foreign flights to Thailand. Martial law was imposed on December 3, the timeframe chosen by the Ministry of Land, Transport, and Maritime Affairs is highly dubious.

[@John-p7i5g]

Wow. How tragic, they would have removed that concrete barrier then, to extend the runway

[@ronbottitta7437]

No gear, no flaps, used 4/5 of the runway before touchdown, no reverse thrust, wall !? at end of runway??? Lots of blame to go around.

[@audioengineering4613]

lets wait till the flight recorders have been analyzed.

[@BC_26fhj]

Looks like a landing gear issue that caused the plane land fast and run out of runway. Diverting to an airport with a longer runway may not have been possible.

[@_Just_Another_Guy]

Could they maybe have been salvaged by attempting to belly land in water instead like Captain Sully? Jeju Island is at the south point of the South Korea peninsula between the Yellow Sea and Korean Strait.

[@CerberusTenshi]

​@@_Just_Another_Guy Water landings are extremely dangerous and more likely to cause total destruction of an airplane than crash landing on solid ground. That's why it's called the Miracle of the Hudson River. And a river is way calmer than the open sea.

[@wim0104]

that runway is plenty long enough. they came in way too fast and too far up the runway. and didn't ditch or burn fuel off.

[@김성민-l9m]

활주로는 2800m입니다. 버드 스트라이크로 이미 유압 시스템이 망가진 상태에서 두 번의 복행을 한 상태였으며. 다른 공항엔 갈 수 없어 착륙을 시도했지만 랜딩기어가 모종의 이유로 작동되지 않았습니다

[@유유-y1h]

So there actually was a similar problem(*bird strikes*) with the same exact plane few years ago and an anonymous staff from the airline claimed that it was nothing like a bird strike or anything but clearly an engine damage, then the company decided to cover it up. None of these are currently confirmed but definitely looking suspicious.....

[@UzumakiNaruto_]

How does a bird strike affect the landing gear?

[@유유-y1h]

@@UzumakiNaruto_ Well we assume that it didn’t, like the whole bird strike situation was to cover up the actual problem of the wngine.

[@PhartYeOlde]

It is likely the pilots forgot to lower the landing gear. A bird strike is very unlikely to cause the gear to malfunction, unless it incapacitated both pilots. It was going very fast at the end of the runway. Have to wonder if they tried a go around but failed.

[@John-p7i5g]

That's what it looks like to me too

[@MarySyrianGirl]

More than 120 till now, it’s heartbreaking my condolences to the victims families 😞💔

[@EtikBenjamin]

Sending love to all the folks affected

[@Dan-zz4jb]

When did the landing gear fail? If the malfunction occurred in midair, then why was the plane allowed to land on this runway? Also, why no fire crew waiting on site?

[@consortiumxf]

No flaps or slats. If gear up landing with no braking power, why weren't the flaps/slats deployed?

[@stonew1927]

This suggests that there were other issues affecting the plane, perhaps electrical or even hydraulic.

[@consortiumxf]

@@stonew1927 Landing gear can be lowered without hydraulics....which just adds to the mystery.

[@stonew1927]

@@consortiumxf Yes but not flaps.

[@darkliightXxX]

how many plane crashes were there in the past 2 weeks

[@GermanMcCookies]

Crashes?? you mean one was crashed the other one was shot down.

[@Kipling45]

Week, more like this whole year...

[@cemdursun]

⁠@@GermanMcCookiesyou should open a dictionary. They both crashed. The reason for their crash doesn’t change that fact. Example sentence: “A plane was shot down and crashed into the ground” This is a correct sentence. It doesn’t imply it is an accident. It just means it… crashed.

[@Flaming-Sword-FS]

Why are fatal plane crashes so common this year Saurya airlines crj200 crash Voepass 2283 Azerbaijan airlines 8243 And now Jeju air crash

[@emhkayho]

Last days of the year out for blood. May God keep us all and console the family of the bereaved.

[@mediocreman2]

How sad. Prayers to everyone involved.

[@paulreynolds2898]

Would I be wrong to say the 737 800 has a manual method of lowering it's gear available ?

[@Rockhard86]

Ohhh lord so many innocent people are dying. It is a 2nd plane crash in less than 5 days. RIP 💔

[@spinsandneedles]

Once again, the Miracle on the Hudson shows that a skilled water landing is a good choice when available.

[@tractordamage5272]

Yet yesterday experts on Reddit were saying a water landing is the worst. A river landing in a city is a bit different though.

[@lilycha9398]

Unfortunately not all pilots are as skilled as Sully.

[@spinsandneedles]

@@tractordamage5272 It's obviously not the worst. Just look at this disaster. Look at New York in comparison.

[@spinsandneedles]

@@lilycha9398 He sure handled his aircraft like he was Neil Armstrong. But I think other pilots could have landed it in the water too with the same skill given he had some time to do it.

[@kiryuchansboyfriend]

If I had a nickel for every time I’ve heard “We begin with breaking news out of South Korea…” this month I’d have $0.15 (missiles, coup, plane crash) which isn’t a lot but on second thought it kinda is and I’m starting to get concerned…

[@Jammi354]

I am not flying ever again.

Yup travel so overrated who cares if h went to every city in thr world its all the same scam 😂

[@paweopalczewski6533]

Don’t go outside then, because chances of a car hitting you are higher, than dying in a plane crash

[@HANZO_O-1]

Just a plane crash 2 days ago Azerbaijen air and now another plane crash😢

[@syedchain]

RIP to those affected….The pilots should have already realized the problem with the landing gear way before they touched down and alerted the airport control to assist them in reducing the possible casualties when landing, but it seems none of that happened…apparently

[@kingdomofgeorgia1751]

No more Boeing for me. This company is no longer trustworthy. This year I travelled a lot, but I used Airbus planes.

[@triple7marc]

“No longer trustworthy” what bro 😂 this plane was manufactured 15 years ago, and the 737-800 is one of the safest and most popular airliners in the world. How could Boeing have possibly been at fault for this crash? Can you explain?

[@kingdomofgeorgia1751]

@@triple7marc I don't care how popular is it. The fact is that Boeing (does not matter models) has more accidents than any other planes on the globe. You like Boeing, you use it.

[@triple7marc]

@ You’re being irrational. Boeing planes don’t just crash. The MAX issues were sorted out years ago. The last two 737 crashes, and every other issue with a Boeing plane other than that single plug door issue, had nothing to do with Boeing. You’re also not going to refuse a flight if it’s operated by a Boeing plane. That would be just ridiculous.

[@kingdomofgeorgia1751]

@@triple7marc "has nothing to do with Boeing" 😊 yeah right. Blame someone else. Boeing is responsible and its lazy mechanics. Google Boeing crushes and see the list. The list is longer than Shakespearean poems.

[@bowser2lux]

Why are there so many incidents with airplanes lately?

[@MrJoeMarc]

With that full amount of speed, with no landing gears and flaps down, I don't think the survivors could make it 😢

[@caryard3774]

We need to leave the birds alone.

[@stonew1927]

Brid strikes being blamed for every crash anymore. Birds had nothing to do with the landing gear malfunctioning.

[@moriz6834]

The runway is too short to attempt a belly landing. I don't know why the pilot didn't choose to go to a longer airport runway. Not enough fuel, perhaps?

[@pauldrake9312]

Bird strikes to an engine don't stop the landing gear coming down.....just saying

[@Paco_Gaepedores]

What a horrible way to end 2024 :(( May their souls Rest easy in Heaven 🙏🕊❤

[@adelmarwashington3118]

Whats going on with Airplanes? At this point, travelling it's very dangerous

[@kaihocompany]

There's tens of thousands of flights a day, it's literally one of the safest modes of transportation.

[@johnspain]

Ya air travel saftey has increased greatly from past decades if you look up the numbers I hope we can get this number too zero one day if your flying in north America the probability of a crash is alot less

[@consortiumxf]

The most dangerous part about flying is the drive to the airport. Seriously.

[@kaihocompany]

@@johnspain Both Europe and North Asia are as safe as North America percentage wise though the US has the highest amount of crashes and casualties worldwide.

[@tractordamage5272]

@@kaihocompany The top 25 safest airlines barely mention American airlines. They are at the bottom of the list. Most are European, Commonwealth or East Asia Airlines.

[@rcnewman51.]

181 on board, only two rescued, and reports of 47 dead…

[@arjunkashyap4725]

What is happening with Aviation these days? So many incidents and cases are happening on regular basis and really it's so scary to travel by plane now

[@johnspain]

I know it seams that way but air travel saftey has increased greatly alot more crashes happened in the past if you look up the numbers but this is sad I hope we can get this number to 0 one day there was most likely children on that plane heart breaking

[@arjunkashyap4725]

@johnspain yeah you are right. But I think considering how modern we are now, there should be Plan B, C or D option to make sure that passenger's lives are protected. It's so painful to see these images especially when your loved ones are waiting at the airport to receive you.

[@kaycampbell364]

They unalive the boeng whistle blower soooooooo

[@TheSmokingHatManSeesYou]

The problem with advancing past a point of advanced aviation and multiple options instead it becomes abt greed for big companies. Rather than "saftey".

[@lukasvillar9328]

There's a video showing that the plane touched down almost in the end of the runway... This doesn't look like the work a a bird strike, there's a lot of things that don't add up in here.

[@goprocbr]

Is it normal to have a brick wall at the end of the runway?

[@Tina-Marie-iz8zy]

Terrible news, passengers and crews of 181 and only 2 survived. I pray for the family and friends of all the loved ones who have not made it back home safely, may they be comforted and at peace during this terrible time of grief and loss.

[@Fire-eb8ld]

It's truly heartbreaking to witness the impact of this tragedy. While many people are inherently good, the slow and inadequate response at the airport has sadly contributed to the high death toll. If Azerbaijan Airlines had been involved in the crash at this airport, it’s likely that there would have been no survivors. It’s surprising and disheartening to see that South Korea struggled with its response to such a devastating disaster. My thoughts go out to all those affected.

[@stonew1927]

Doubt it. The plane blew up like a bomb the moment is struck the concrete barriers. I've seen the video of it skidding down the runway and impacting the barriers. Not much chance of surviving that impact. Plus, I saw no evidence of a "slow response" by fire crews. But maybe you know more about that than I do . . .

[@SMGJohn]

We also had a 737-800 with gear failure in Oslo, TWICE this week. Boeing are most unsafe planes on the planet.

[@dereckbrannigan6195]

How could a controlled emergency landing not have jettisoned its fuel.

[@stonew1927]

Apparently from what I've read in other comments, the Boeing 737 is not designed to jettison fuel.

[@dereckbrannigan6195]

@ I’m amazed, I thought it was a standard emergency protocol. Thank you.

[@Flaming-Sword-FS]

Only widebody's can jettison fuel Narrow airliners cannot

[@Faraonqa]

it didn't skid of the runway...it was gear up landing probably because a Boeing

[@ThatOpalGuy]

Condolences. A real tragedy.

[@east_coast_ceo1070]

Prayers and Condolences to the families and friends who were affected in South Korea 🇰🇷 🙏

[@alvinantonio8033]

Condolences to the victims families & friends. 🖤🖤🖤

[@louisalaron9698]

Our condolences to the families of the victims May their souls rest in peace Our prayers Philippines

[@afasdfas]

This is strange. The plane landed well, so assumingly all passengers should have been alive. Does it mean the pilots didn’t open the door for passengers to evacuate?

[@John-p7i5g]

It smashed into a reinforced concrete wall at the end of the runway at over 300km/hr and exploded Normally belly landing is no injuries let alone fatalities

[@AlHart-w5g]

These things happen in three’s. This was the second one in a couple days.

[@Jellae]

It’s crazy how I saw this exact plane over a year ago…

[@Rogueviewer1]

It’s a known fact that pilots coming from the East are great at normal regimented flights but struggle in the face of mishaps that require creative problem-solving and critical thinking. That was needed but not readily available in a scenario like this.

[@brendanroberts4866]

Eyes, the eyes

[@michaelbanh4000]

Commercial plane crashes do not occur in Vietnam. Vietnam has a proven track record of good airline safety performance as their most modern airlines have never crashed a plane at all during the entirety of their history and no planes of any Vietnam based airline, including the models they use, have crashed in this century. When you refer to the East, you should not assume that every country in the East has l wer quality of pilots. Actually, the safety standards in Vietnam are statistically better than the safety standards of almost all of the nations in the West.

[@lilycha9398]

​@@michaelbanh4000 Vietnam isnt part of the East. It's part of the Southeast. There's a massive difference in culture between the two.

[@Rogueviewer1]

@@michaelbanh4000 Clearly, I'm not talking about *every* single Eastern country; there's sub-regions. The Asan experience is vast, but Vietnam has had a unique history and very different culture from those of China, Japan, Korea...

[@MoonSun0001]

So sad to hear this bad news. My condolences to the family that loss their love one..RIP😭

[@maheshsharma9589]

If it's a Landing gear malfunction, the pilot still has time/option to re-fly, it's always better to land on water. The white body aircraft always has enough fuel to reach back to the origin port if there is an Issue, it's a Clear Human Error

[@loooopeytunes]

Similar to aeroflot ssj 100 which skidded off the runway, with fuel leaking and engines still running resulted in flames. Pilot ignored the windshear caution, landing with speed faster and heavier than usual (fuel exceeded the limit).

[@douglaswallace7680]

Speech habit correction ?? Every statement is a question ?? With a rise in vocal pitch at the end ?? Very annoying ??

[@DaishaView]

Cultural difference. It’s normal in some countries.

[@johnwattdotca]

You're hearing rises in vocal pitch, and they annoy you? Don't listen to opera.

[@AK47z]

Puncuation correction?

[@douglaswallace7680]

@@johnwattdotca opera does not raise pitch at the END OF EVERY STATEMENT . but T Y for the joke !

[@douglaswallace7680]

@@AK47z Written ? You are Correct . But I am hearing her speech pattern .

[@azorahai7837]

In the worst-case scenario, it could be one of the pilots' decision to suicide. This has happened before.

[@starshine3588]

If that barrier wouldn’t have been there they probably could have came to a stop on their own and survived…..but they crashed into the barrier and exploded. I’m not sure how birds can cause the landing gear to not work…causing an engine to not work is understandable…but it doesn’t make sense that they could affect landing gear from being lowered. I’m not sure I buy that story.

[@johndavi0388]

I'm sorry to hear this horrible tragedy news and again, condolence to your lost love once. God is always on your side.

[@Theambugaton]

R.I.P for all victims. 🕯️🕯️🕯️

[@armanabelino7517]

Wow second aircraft has been involved with crashes within a week this is horrifying for many.

[@bradowen8862]

This is really heartbreaking

[@annjuarecomla1566]

😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@siewkonsum7291]

Why didn't the pilot/s thought of landing the plane by gliding on the sea coastal water? Water offers lot of resistance to gradually bring the plane to a halt, floats it, and water deters possible fire to happen. Fatal casualty and plane damage would be minimal, right?

[@RyanYu-hg7pp]

A passenger texted that a bird got stuck in the wing! It might have caused the hydraulic system linked to the landing gear to fail. As a result, the plane landed on its fuselage and overshot, crashing into the airport wall. According to the firefighting HQ, only two flight crew members survived, while the remaining 179 passengers are most likely dead.

[@consortiumxf]

Landing gear can be lowered without hydraulics though.....which just adds to the mystery.

[@龙源探索]

You don't need hydraulic power to drop the gear.

[@RyanYu-hg7pp]

@@consortiumxf I think so, too. What I wrote above is the report from TV here in Korea. Further investigation will reveal the truth.

[@John-p7i5g]

737 800 has 3 independent hydraulic systems

[@daz3434b]

Maybe far too many dead immigrants blocking and preventing landing gear dropping manually also?

[@shahrukhkhakimov]

all airliners should have spare landing gear lowering mechanisms, they probably didn’t work either