Big balls to issue the first ever red card in a premiership final, but 100% the right call. Props to Wayne Barnes for stamping out any form indiscipline or disrespect towards refs in rugby before it becomes commonplace. People like him ensure professional rugby remains a good sport to watch with proper sporting attitude.
@reportaccounthcc2463 Жыл бұрын
I come back and watch this every couple of years. One of the funniest rugby moments seeing the realisation in Dylan Hartley's eyes that his actions have consequences
@L-po8rx Жыл бұрын
Likewise. Its good to revisit every now and then
@OscarOSullivan10 ай бұрын
One way of making your mark in Rugby union history. Being the first player to be given a red card in your country’s top rugby union league’s final.
@ChappersDaveАй бұрын
Dylan was right Barnes is afucking cheat - Myler did what was asked he did not kick it straight out he grubbered it into touch which is within the laws of the game - Wayne 'Tigers' Barnes strikes again.
@Scott143310 жыл бұрын
regardless of whether you like the referee or not, it is the correct decision and excellent refereeing in this case. Don't blame the referee for the red card, blame the player for not keeping his mouth shut
@arielgonzalez52965 жыл бұрын
That's true. Its rugby, not soccer.
@dd007x4 жыл бұрын
Lesson. In life sometimes say nothing. Keep your mouth shut.
@SamHodkin234 жыл бұрын
@@arielgonzalez5296 Offensive language is a red card offence regardless of the code, correct.
@AbsoluteNut13 жыл бұрын
@@arielgonzalez5296 Really? Ask any player who swore at me during a soccer game; how did that work out?
@arielgonzalez52963 жыл бұрын
@@AbsoluteNut1 I don't have answers with me.
@iOllie11 жыл бұрын
Well Done Wayne Barnes! Just like Hartley, he trained most of his life to be in that position and he's not there to be called a cheat...
@SpeckmannLIVE6 жыл бұрын
we need this guy on soccer
@mag96043 жыл бұрын
@@ConnorConzo123 Who gives a shit
@rileychev2 жыл бұрын
@@mag9604 football fans who watch footballers play football in football boots, on a football pitch, in a football kit for a football organisation, with a football.
@mag96042 жыл бұрын
@@rileychev get over it I’m British and it’s just how Americans speak
@Philsta0072 жыл бұрын
@@rileychev Soccer players play on a soccer field with soccer boots.
@dawski46976 жыл бұрын
Barnes: “No you can’t kick out” *myler kicks it out* Barnes: “Fucks sake”
@dooglasii5 жыл бұрын
As a ref, I can confirm those moments happen a lot....
@defaultyorker60964 жыл бұрын
Well, Wayne’s accent didn’t help.
@CymruEmergencyResponder3 жыл бұрын
@@defaultyorker6096 ‘the game must restart’ sounds the same in all accents.
@j.e.f.64433 жыл бұрын
He obviously tried to not kick it straight out, so he can’t claim he didn’t understand.
@finnleykenneth78083 жыл бұрын
You prolly dont give a damn but does any of you know of a trick to log back into an instagram account? I somehow forgot the login password. I love any tips you can give me.
@matthewhermon2677 Жыл бұрын
The commentator said it best: "This is rugby not football. You can't speak to the officials like that." Yes! Let's keep it that way.
@Asurya1978 Жыл бұрын
tbf, you can't speak (or shouldn't) speak to any sports official that way - just that football ref's don't have the courage to send the players off.
@DN21Media Жыл бұрын
@@Asurya1978 sometimes they do. Certainly at non league level.
@jmarttal8 ай бұрын
Football definitely needs a refereeing policy like this.
@roquefortaddict11 жыл бұрын
Well done Wayne Barnes, great decision. Thankfully too, the biggest nob in rugby didn't make the Lions tour because of that. Justice was definitely done.
@olliebailey92277 жыл бұрын
roquefortaddict I couldn't agree more he is a cheat and does not deserve to play rugby
@BrianBell40737 жыл бұрын
3 years on and your comment is still current. Might see some decent games with Dildo and Waynker not involved
@marcusd91923 жыл бұрын
Outstanding refereeing. Explained the rules and held his ground.
@peadar698110 жыл бұрын
13.10 Drop-out DEFINITIONS A drop-out is a drop kick taken by the defending team. The drop-out may be taken anywhere on or behind the 22-metre line. A drop-out is used to restart play after an attacking player has put or taken the ball into the in-goal, without infringement, and a defending player has made the ball dead there or it has gone into touch-in-goal or on or over the dead ball line. 13.11 Delay in drop-out The drop-out must be taken without delay. Sanction: Free Kick on the 22-metre line. 13.12 Drop-out incorrectly taken If the ball is kicked with the wrong type of kick, or from the wrong place, the opposing team has two choices: To have another drop-out, or To have a scrum at the centre of the 22-metre line and they throw in the ball. 13.13 Drop-out must cross the line (a) If the ball does not cross the 22-metre line, the opposing team has two choices: To have another drop-out, or To have a scrum at the centre of the 22-metre line. They throw in the ball. (b) If the ball crosses the 22-metre line but is blown back, play continues. (c) If the ball does not cross the 22-metre line, advantage may apply. An opponent who plays the ball can score a try. 13.14 Drop-out goes directly into touch The ball must land in the field of play. If it is kicked directly into touch, the opposing team has three choices: To have another drop-out, or To have a scrum at the centre of the 22-metre line, and they throw in the ball, or To accept the kick. If they accept the kick, the throw-in is on the 22-metre line. So the ref decision is correct. It also means that players don't know the rules...
@SystematikSoundz3 жыл бұрын
Was looking for EXACTLY this type of explanation! Thank you!!
@samswiegers62663 жыл бұрын
The player knows the law, but was under the impression that half-time would be blown as scrum offenses are usually seen as a break in play. If the kicker had kicked it directly into touch from a less obvious position, say the middle of the field, it would probably have brought on the half-time whistle. He was, however, OBVIOUSLY going for a deliberate infringement which goes against the principles of the game. He was also warned about doing that. Very foolish. In a 90s Currie Cup match, Western Province needed a win against the blue bulls to reach the final. They were leading well with two minutes to go, but the bulls scored at the death, cutting the deficit too close for comfort. During the trip back to half-way, time expired. Joel Stransky's restart flew straight into touch (by some margin) bringing on the end of the match and ensuring a spot in the final for WP.
@josefunes26742 жыл бұрын
Thx u idk about this sport
@donelion64592 жыл бұрын
Dude our coach told us to always listen to the ref because 99% of the time most of the nob heads in the team didn't know the rules beyond the basics 😭😭😭
@edwardbrandon31702 жыл бұрын
@@donelion6459 and even if the ref is wrong, its not like your gonna change his mind by pissing him off lol
@Easts10110 жыл бұрын
For those that criticised the ref, what do you say he did wrong ? The player had been previously warned, he was on notice. That he was also the captain only compounds his lack of leadership. .
@ChappersDaveАй бұрын
He was wrong because Myler did not kick it straight into touch - it clearly bounced on the field of play, therefore it was half time. Barnes is and always was anti-Saints and pro-Tigers so should never have been given the game to ref - as soon as he was announced as ref the game was Tigers' to lose
@alasdairduncan311 жыл бұрын
I don't think Hartley is a cheat, he's just an idiot. Any Captain knows to listen to the referee. Barnes was forced to make both of those decisions, great reffing.
@RossoVerdeNero4 ай бұрын
In this instance Hartley didn't cheat, he just accused the ref of cheating. In numerous other instances he garnered a total of 60 weeks of bans. Whether you call those incidents cheating or just outrageous foul play, including eye gouging and biting, it's irrelevant; only a headbanger like Eddie Jones could appoint a guy as England captain who was so clearly not fit to wear the shirt, never mind be the one that everyone else was supposed to look up to.
@olleronn61610 жыл бұрын
Is it customary in televised Rugby that you can hear what the referee is saying so clearly? I have to say, that's very welcome, and I would love to see it practised in more sports!
@Nazomiah10 жыл бұрын
Yep you can hear just about everything the referee says in every match, and his mic also picks up much of what the players around him are saying as well - although much of that is done so that we can hear the sound effects of the tackles. Tackles aren't as exciting without the crunch noise :P
@PropBoyGinge9 жыл бұрын
Olle Rönn They tried it in the Premiership but the language and abuse that was picked up by the refs mic was such that the experiment was cut short.
@ascendtoaesthetics9 жыл бұрын
+Olle Rönn every rugby referee wears a microphone, so that TV audiences can hear all his conversations, with players and assistants....
@joshbenton8109 жыл бұрын
+Alfred M he means for football and hockey etc
@jenniferclark98429 жыл бұрын
+Olle Rönn It is in the NFL as well.
@MrOlivergorman4 жыл бұрын
can’t believe Myler kicked it straight out after being told he couldn’t kick it out 3 times😂
@pauljamison33403 жыл бұрын
@OhDannyBoyThePipes That's exactly what it was!!! He leaves the imaginary "R" out!!
@efs83dws3 жыл бұрын
Why does a ref get to tell a player how he must perform?
@pauljamison33403 жыл бұрын
@@efs83dws The ref was reminding him about the rules.
@creanero3 жыл бұрын
@@efs83dws From what I can tell he was asked what the rule was
@Norrie_Rugger3 жыл бұрын
@@efs83dws Because the ref is the arbiter of the laws and makes sure that they are applied correctly? What the hell else do you think the ref is for?
@footballrantz53319 жыл бұрын
As a former referee in football, my policy was that being called a cheat is an instant red card, so in Rugby it has to be a red card, I wish referees in football could be like the ones in Rugby and actually communicate with the players, but the thing is in football I cant blame the players for having a go at the ref sometimes because the mistakes they make aren't good enough, I understand everyone makes mistakes but when you see how consistant rugby referees are it just shows how poorly football referees are trained.
@ofs828 жыл бұрын
+FootballRantz Rugby refs get a lot more assistance with the microphone communication with touch judges and the video ref though, plus the fact the clock stops means if there is something the ref needs to check he can call time off and get another look or opinion. It's definitely true that the respect for the officials in rugby allows the ref to have the time to make those decisions (which isn't always the case in football since the ref will be surrounded as soon as a contentious decision is made), however. The other thing is in football referees are given such a contradictory message. The idea is to let the game flow, so if a ref upholds the law to the letter and it becomes a yellow-fest, it quickly becomes a farce, but then if you let too much go then you end up with a mess like the Colombia-Brazil game where people started getting hurt completely unnecessarily.
@KjartanAndersen8 жыл бұрын
Which FIFA rule merit a red card for calling a ref a cheat? Just curious. I would love football to take notice on rugby rules towards refereeing. In football it has gone to far. Players behaving like children on every decision.
@SamHodkin238 жыл бұрын
Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct clearly states "A player who is guilty of using offensive, insulting or abusive language or gestures must be sent off." Cheat is definitely insulting to a referee, calling a referee a f***ing cheat is all 3.
@parkersammy978 жыл бұрын
Ey a fellow rover!
@thelittleowl1Ай бұрын
@@KjartanAndersen Law 12 fouls and misconduct. offensive, abusive or insulting language = red card. I'm a ref in football and I can guarantee if someone calls me a cheat, it is a red card.
@lofty221010 жыл бұрын
FIFA should be taking notes here. Respect.
@yourmockislame25897 жыл бұрын
lofty2210 They already have. Offensive language is a red card offence in the Laws of the Game.
@lofty22106 жыл бұрын
I wasn't referencing the rule. I was referencing the general conduct and repsect for the ref.
@Leifr9525 жыл бұрын
This has got nothing to do with football. When will rugby learn that constantly badmouthing football does their sport no favours whatsoever. If you want to grow rugby then just concentrate on the game itself without trying to compare it with others.
@stokey244 жыл бұрын
@@Leifr952 what are you on about? No one is blaming football for anything
@Leifr9524 жыл бұрын
@@stokey24 Look at lofty2210's comments
@the_katman21819 жыл бұрын
Is there a bigger knob in rugby than Dylan Hartley? I doubt it.
@mervynrees95789 жыл бұрын
cant call him a knob, they are useful.
@JackMilner329 жыл бұрын
+Mervyn Rees Captain fantastic now!
@nickg19329 жыл бұрын
+1unsung Schalk Brits
@alexwilliams67679 жыл бұрын
+the_katman I think you mean Wayne Barnes. The fucking idiot shouldn't be allowed to ref
@ofs828 жыл бұрын
+the_katman Calum Clark
@HotstopKid_RugbyGameplays10 жыл бұрын
referee is right, the ball must be kept in play during restarts, from halfway and/or 22meter line, hence why they are called Restarts, however if the ball does end up going out of play for whatever reason lol, the other team will get the 'option', as the ref had said. Penalty kicks are the kicks where you can kick the ball out.
@WhiterunUK9 жыл бұрын
+Hotstop Kid Or free kicks
@Kiwi-kp1zi9 жыл бұрын
+Rory Pringle free kicks are penalty kicks you pringle
@WhiterunUK9 жыл бұрын
dub supree i thought penalty you retain possession if it goes into touch and free kicks you lose it and they get the throw? do they have the same label?
@Kiwi-kp1zi9 жыл бұрын
no, free kicks are caused when the other team causes a penalty, the only time the ball gets handed over when the ball gets kicked out, is during play.
@WhiterunUK9 жыл бұрын
sorry i assumed you knew what you were talking about my bad. There is a different kick from a penalty punt, look it up
@benstevenson190811 жыл бұрын
Why do football referees take this kind of abuse and do nothing?
@bcrouchersport11 жыл бұрын
Call any football referee a cheat and he will send you off too. Is the worst dissent any player can show in any sport
@oneminhistory11 жыл бұрын
Ben Croucher Nah, he wouldn't.
@aledref11 жыл бұрын
Ben Croucher As a football referee myself I know that if you call any football official a cheat you'd be sent from the field, I'd send a player as would any other referee.
@BobbyMakepeace11 жыл бұрын
Money, gentleman, money...
@ofs827 жыл бұрын
the problem is, if referees at the highest level of football (rather than at lower levels where with less on the line respect for the officials seems to be a lot better) started sending players off for dissent, they'd start getting accused of ruining the game by repeatedly sending off crowd-pleasing players. The fact that for so long teams get away with surrounding the referee and arguing at length to protest any controversial decision, even putting their hands on them, even if non-threateningly that's an ejection in American football, for example, means that if they decided to get strict on that, you'd see a brief period with a huge number of sendings-off, and then FIFA would backtrack.
@66Viscount4 жыл бұрын
You got exactly what you deserved Dylan.. My sympathy is for the Saints fans who looked forward to their special day and were deprived of at least equality of “arms” by very poor discipline and leadership.
@bobbybobstar14962 жыл бұрын
Cost me a fortune mate
@inglotto Жыл бұрын
Yes, and that's why you don't have a guy like Hartley as your captain.
@Rucky8889 жыл бұрын
I dont understand the rules, but no one can say the referee wasn't absolutely clear, the warning, the don't kick it out, and then the you're off sunshine
@LingLiu20148 жыл бұрын
At 2:00 you can just about hear Dylan Hartley calling the ref: "You're a f***ing cheat" or somewhere along those lines and the ref was right to send Dylan off for that! Totally behind the ref there!
@PeterDoesburg11 жыл бұрын
Awesome from the commentators: This is rugby, not soccer. You dont talk to the officials like that. #damnright #respectthegame
@relentlessaddict98jm11 жыл бұрын
Hate to be that guy but i believe they said football :P
@PeterDoesburg11 жыл бұрын
Fair enough Mark Jackson
@mikeygormley11 жыл бұрын
Peter Doesburg Welcome to the professional game guys. Sorry for your delusions!
@PeterDoesburg11 жыл бұрын
Love rugby!!! Soo much elegance in this violent game making it such a joy to watch
@mikeygormley11 жыл бұрын
My point is that there's so much money going through the modern game that there's so much more at stake. Soccer players didn't always abuse referee's either. It's just the sign of the times. If a referee makes a balls of a decision that affects the result you could end up on the bench next week. I don't agree with the way it's going it's just a fact.
@elpresso19838 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day Barnes did say three times loud and clear that they could not just kick the ball out. Myler seemed to ignore this or understood and went ahead anyway - so actually he's the one to blame for causing that entire mess in the first place. Listen to the ref! Honestly baffled how Myler could ask Barnes, several times, if he could kick the ball straight out and just ignore what Barnes told him!
@olliethetrucker8 жыл бұрын
I would have yellow carded Myler for totally ignoring the ref's instructions.
@silvermoonrt8 жыл бұрын
Because he said "can't" instead of "can not". It is a loud stadium and the T is very very hard to hear in that situation. The kicker can easily hear "You can" and Refs often are generous and give you helpful tips in the rules, like you can kick it straight out (and end the half). The ref could have done much better in this situation as well.
@sabinrawr8 жыл бұрын
+silvermoonrt Incorrect. In the American accent, "can" and "can't" have the same vowel. In Mr. Barnes' accent (and the accent used by everyone around him), the words sound quite different. "Can" sounds similar to American English. "Can't" sounds more like "cont", where the "o" is similar to the British pronunciation of the initial vowel in "aunt". There is no mistaking it.
@jonnybaynham16898 жыл бұрын
Bryan Shepard that's only the RP English accent, because of Barnes' northern accent you can hear 'can' and 'can't' sound very similar. I would understand if myler misheard it. If he didn't, he's a complete plonker.
@colinmenzies71628 жыл бұрын
Referees give sanctions according to the rules. You can't just make up your own.
@Dreimou11 жыл бұрын
I've been watching a lot of rugby clips lately. I have to say, the respect the players have for the referees is amazing! Would love to see the same in football, hockey and every other sport.
@squidge9033 жыл бұрын
The refs both demand it and earn it. It's great
@DN21Media Жыл бұрын
Hartley didn’t show the ref much respect there.
@robertcottam8824 Жыл бұрын
@@DN21Media You are correct. Then he got sent off. What’s your point?
@DN21Media Жыл бұрын
@@robertcottam8824 only after the second or third transgression.
@robertcottam8824 Жыл бұрын
@@DN21Media I take your point. Hartley’s always been a bit of a toddler and was over-indulged. I LOVE the look on his face when he realises that mummy/daddy/,teacher/ref ‘means’ it and that he really has had his sweeties taken away. But good for Wayne Barnes. I think it made rugby’s toddler element back off a bit. Best wishes.
@darkstar764611 жыл бұрын
Should be permanently banned from representing his country. Long record of problems -- 26 week ban, 8 week ban, 11 for this... No place on the pitch. This is where the first time the referee has to talk for back-chat needs to be 10 in the bin.
@robicenco110 жыл бұрын
"Should be permanently banned from representing his country." Agreed - and banned from representing England too...
@dooglasii5 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbissett 6 years later the fact he isnt Kiwi is probably the biggest reason
@2themoon8635 ай бұрын
How the heck is this idiot even a captain of a team??
@elner9342 жыл бұрын
Credit to Wayne Barnes. He told him a number of times. Lesson to Hartley and any other junior players, the referee controls the game.
@WildlifeObsessed9 жыл бұрын
Excellent piece of refereeing - Correct decision. Lesson 1 - Listening to the Referee usually helps your decisions. Like don't kick the ball out direct. Or don't swear at me. Well done - Northampton. You ignored both in rapid order. Result - exactly what you deserved.
@olliethetrucker4179 жыл бұрын
WildlifeObsessed I would have yellow carded the number 10 for deliberately disobeying the refs instructions
@MarkOfTzeentch9 жыл бұрын
+Ollie The Trucker he gave him the benefit of the doubt which is why it was a scrum and not a pen.
@GedUK9 жыл бұрын
+Ollie The Trucker They weren't instructions, they were telling him what the rules wouldn't allow him to do. He did it anyway, so the referee penalised him, which is exactly right.
@JCB411abuser8 жыл бұрын
i have never heard of a situation where you can kick the ball out on the full and incur a penalty. NEVER!!! Barnes is a cheat.
@sidstewart73998 жыл бұрын
JCB411abuser It was a scrum😊
@dermothealy20185 жыл бұрын
I feel a great sense of pride for rugby when Barnes made the decision sent him off. The easy option would be to ignore it in such a massive game. You can't do that to a referee in rugby.
@heyyyyyynow10 жыл бұрын
Watch from 1:40 to the scrum, it's the finest transitions I've ever seen in sports video. Ever.
@johnathanpatrick61184 жыл бұрын
Those poor kids...blame Northampton. It's their fault. 😂😂
@zyaicob4 жыл бұрын
That's art
@jaimel882 жыл бұрын
Smoooth
@TheIkaraCult2 жыл бұрын
I'm a football and basketball player/fan myself but I love the respect the ref is show in Rugby. Calling the ref a cheat is disgraceful behaviour in any sport. In my youth football times the ref would often not turn up because of the grief he would get from the players and the parents.
@jenniferclark98429 жыл бұрын
There are certain things you don't do in ANY sport, and swearing at the ref/umpire/whatever is one of them.
@stefankeet92938 жыл бұрын
Also swearing anywhere is bad
@MrSupermugen8 жыл бұрын
im sorry but barnes is one of the worst referees and will do anything he can to make sure the team he wants to win, wins... There were media reports awhile ago coming out about match fixing with barnes. but suddenly they are got removed and barnes isnt refereeing major games right now... he also refuses to listen to players completely even the captain, when infact in the rules say the captain can speak to the referee when time suits. and he also got the call wrong about the direct kick into touch. it should of been a penalty.
@stewiegriffin3028 жыл бұрын
+MrSupermugen its "laws" in Rugby Union not "rules", he deserved to go, stop whining.
@boatymcboatface69698 жыл бұрын
+MrSupermugen McCaw has a lot to say on Barnes...
@jenniferclark98427 жыл бұрын
boaty mcboatface Yeah, he chided him like a child in his book.
@HartOfARebel10 жыл бұрын
Well done Barnes!! Very good ref'ing - he was very clear in his instructions - more refs should be like this. Great respect for him and Nigel Owens!
@peterrowlands64062 жыл бұрын
If I need a good laugh I keep returning to this.😂😂😂
@BrewStar243 жыл бұрын
This is why having refs miked up is such a good move. I get footballs fear that you’d be able to pick up poor language, but once they iron that out, it would lead to more respect for refs.
@mrjules20088 жыл бұрын
I always loved rugby for the respect these huge men give the ref calling him Sir and stuff.
@66Viscount4 жыл бұрын
I can’t stop watching this...it s unbelievable.... what planet is Hartley on??.... what an absolutely brilliant decision by Wayne Barnes. I don’t know what Miler was thinking of either!! What a complete abomination of professionalism this turned out to be except for Wayne Barnes who was outstanding. Let us see some other referees with some backbone.
@RichThePirate11 жыл бұрын
Watching the game back as a neutral.... it was well reffed by Barnes. a few contentious decisions, but largely the right ones. Tigers had the Saints pack going backwards all day and like the Wales v England game, if that happens the ref will always favour the dominant scrum. The 22 decision was spot on too, he tells Meyler several times he can't kick the ball straight out, so Meyler kicks the ball straight out. Not Barnes' fault, really, was it.
@pyroguitars12962 жыл бұрын
It's been 8 years. I've got my thoughts together now. 1. Ref makes the correct decisions and communicates so well. 2. The guy that kicked it straight out just overhit it by mistake. He understood the ref, but just misjudged the little low kick and it didn't bounce in play.
@asd36f5 жыл бұрын
1:20 "They think it's all over" - a commentator who knows his sport history :-)
@RayzerSharpe Жыл бұрын
One of rugbys greatest attributes is the respect for a ref. If Barnes or others start to let stuff go you on the slippery slope. No matter what the occasion, the person or the ref, implementing it reinforces it. Therefore no slippery slope. So many sports badly need to learn from this approach
@richieb62732 жыл бұрын
This never gets old. Love it.
@timrogers20456 жыл бұрын
Hartley well and truly earned his marching order. Serves him right. Should've listened to the ref the first time, and shut his mouth. Simple as that!
@seanyshepfit3 жыл бұрын
How thick is Myler is to kick it straight out after literally being told 3 times he couldn't 😂
@Myrddin19559 жыл бұрын
Rugby does not have rules but Laws!
@olliethetrucker4173 жыл бұрын
He clearly told Myler not to kick it directly out, he does and then shakes his head in disbelief
@Jennyeq10 жыл бұрын
... gave him plenty of warning. Well done Mr Barnes.
@sakent10 жыл бұрын
Dunno about you lot, but I'm joining the Wayne Barnes fan club. Good reffing, and not afraid to make the hard decisions in a final #respect People with a bee in their bonnet from 2007 need to get over themselves.
@cupidstunt228 жыл бұрын
Pampered premier league footballers take note!
@Leifr9525 жыл бұрын
This has got NOTHING to do with football! So whenever someone is a dickhead in rugby it's football's fault? Weird attitude.
@honda124111 жыл бұрын
Bloody right ref, get him of the pitch. I like how he looks completely confused as to why he's been sent off, the ref made it clear
@allblacks47298 жыл бұрын
in rugby you win with humility and lose with grace
@Youre8 жыл бұрын
Unless you're Irish
@insertusername94168 жыл бұрын
You're* what do you mean by that?
@Youre8 жыл бұрын
They don't lose with grace...
@insertusername94168 жыл бұрын
I never hear of anyone of the players or coach's complaining after losing a match so I don't know what you're talking about or it could just be your own personal bias
@Youre8 жыл бұрын
I'm not talking about the players or coaches, they're fine. I'm talking about the 'fans'. Irish fans are the biggest pack of one-eyed moaners in Rugby.
@kreishon10 жыл бұрын
There's people on here saying that Wayne Barnes is useless and a lot of the time that true but in this circumstance he's absolutely spot on, correct decision 100%
@mikeybaby10111 жыл бұрын
also football take note: despite all of those ramifications, Hartley didnt go ballistic and crowd the ref., nor did his team mates. I love football, but the way players behave sometimes is a disgrace.
@jamesmcgowan87098 жыл бұрын
can't wait until the moment when he does this again for England at next RWC
@leeflamingo53395 жыл бұрын
Still waiting?
@89fsm10 жыл бұрын
Myler plays rugby for a living. He should know the rules. It's not up to the referee to babysit the players through the game. I don't think Hartley's comments were really directed to Wayne Barnes here, I think he was talking to/about Tom Youngs. He is an idiot for doing it in such a manner after Barnes clearly outlined that any more chat from him would result in action against him. He's a chocolate teapot when it comes to big games.
@Degenerate_Gen9 жыл бұрын
Finlay Mills would've helped if he didn't look directly at him either ahaha
@pbpraga39639 жыл бұрын
I'm not even an english native and I understand he says "NO, YOU CANT..." He starts saying NO. Come on...
@Kiki-lk9xy7 жыл бұрын
Lol, in what context would he be saying that? Pathetic.
@PH33RPIKEY7 жыл бұрын
If he didn't say f*cking cheat then he would've protested, but he couldn't do anything.
@Mikeb10017 жыл бұрын
I hate the 'it's not football' line. Just because you don't tell ref to f*** off, does not make rugby players saints. You call the ref sir and then rake a bloke on the ground who has no way of defending himself. That does not make anything any better than football.
@seamustheplatypus2 жыл бұрын
I was never a big fan on Wayne Barnes, but in this case he was absolutely spot on.
@cchino_Sax9 жыл бұрын
can someone tell me what they yellow, red and white cards in rugby each new ? p.s. I'm a soccer referee
@haloassassin31249 жыл бұрын
Yellow is 10 mins in the sin bin (sent off) and a red card is sent off for the rest of the game and white cards don't exist anymore from my knowledge. Hope that helped mate
@cchino_Sax9 жыл бұрын
Thank u, I appreciate your help :)
@rushy7808 жыл бұрын
Dylan Hartley isn't the right man to captain the England Rugby Team
@OwenCarson-q5l8 ай бұрын
Wayne Barnes's accent means that there is very little difference in the sound of 'can' and 'can't'. With the additional sound from the crowd, it would be even more difficult to discern. So when he said "You can't kick the ball out" it would have easily been heard as "You can kick the ball out." Which is what the player did. That is where the confusion started. It led to 6 points for the green team and a red card to Dillan Hartley.
@ainekearins18067 жыл бұрын
The ref was like a teacher telling off Dylan Hartley
@alcoyne33333333333333 жыл бұрын
Barnes not my favourite referee BUT that's why rugby is so much better that football. Well done REF . 👏
@JonathanH6583 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t for swearing at WB . It was for questioning his integrity
@mufuliramark2 жыл бұрын
Its great that we can hear the refs conversations with players because there's no doubt. Barnes told Myler, myler does as he wants and regrets it, Hartley is told but does as he wants as well. Epic result.
@lewisdevs988 жыл бұрын
Dylan Hartley is a changed player since being put back in the England squad as captain
@tonykaye89618 жыл бұрын
yeah now he's just a dick. Not a stupid dick
@stallthedigger25998 жыл бұрын
Bollocks,wait till someone puts him under pressure then we'll see how changed he is
@ViewTalay8 жыл бұрын
Plonker Devs see what happened last nite?
@Alex554558 жыл бұрын
nek minnit he takes out Sean O'Brien with a swinging arm and gets a 6 week ban.
@danielglancy37356 жыл бұрын
Lewis Sartin 😂😂
@81benjy3 жыл бұрын
This is rugby not football. Stupid quote. In football you do not taunt at the ref.
@thomasmusso11473 жыл бұрын
Are you serious?
@DoomyBlastoise11 жыл бұрын
I really do enjoy this too much.
@droglite12 жыл бұрын
3:41 - perfectly timed. 10 years on and it’s so funny 📯. Whose watching in 2022. Comedy gold
@bobstephens55996 жыл бұрын
Decisive and clinical refereeing
@bmichael35802 жыл бұрын
The only time Wayne Barnes has been right. He told them twice that they couldn’t kick it out directly, and DH that if he spoke to him like that again he would be dealt with….not the brightest.
@kebabsvein13 жыл бұрын
Cant stop watching this tbh. Fair play Barnes
@AlexStaveley10 жыл бұрын
Well done Wayne Barnes. IT's rugby not Soccer. You can't speak to officials or other players like that.
@Leifr9525 жыл бұрын
But he DID speak to the referee like that. Just because someone steps out of line in rugby somehow it's football's fault?
@canamrugby11 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have happened to a bigger jerk, the illustrious Dylan Hartley. Beautifully handled by Wayne Barnes.
@SaviolaIsGod7 жыл бұрын
Footballers can't talk to the ref like that either so why are they saying "this is rugby, not football"
@arielgonzalez52965 жыл бұрын
The players do not ever talk to the official.
@alexroxhissox3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the decision. Furthermore the fact that its rule-breaking should be irrelevant, its basic bloody respect for another human being why you don't accuse someone of corruption, whether in the heat of the moment or otherwise.
@seanclayton81943 жыл бұрын
Lmao no. If you suspect someone of corruption you don't just be quiet
@Tenereus11 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting something. That was a 22 drop-out, and Myler had to drop-kick the ball out. The ball did not bounce off the floor as with a drop kick, so Barrnes' decision was right, as Myler kicked it straight out, without the ball making contact with the floor.
@StuartMB686 жыл бұрын
What a prat Hartley was here. You under no circumstances talk to the referee like that. The right decision.
@ChrisHopkinsBass Жыл бұрын
People give Barnes a hard time but he’s absolutely spot on here.
@Tangaloa111 жыл бұрын
If your a player you shut your trap and play the game. Every player knows that you do not disrespect the ref. no matter what. If the ref seemed to make a bad call deal with it and move on because lets face it your in his realm and complaining will either cost you or both you and your team.
@alexnail Жыл бұрын
Coming back 10 years later to see Hartley get what he deserved.
@31lafouine10 жыл бұрын
Such a brain fart by Myler... As for Barnes, he is maybe the best ref in the world now that Rolland retired. The best with Owens and Walsh. Good decision on that one. you warn once, and then you punish
@seanryan28210 жыл бұрын
31lafouine sorry man but wayne barnes is a fucking idiot and so is steve walsh, owens is a great ref. barnes is inconsistent at the breakdown and has no fucking clue how to ref a scrum, watch ireland vs france in this years six nations, when we clearly infringed at a scrum he penalised france, ten minutes later he penalised us for doing the exact same thing
@31lafouine9 жыл бұрын
Lucky for you, you won't see Walsh refereeing anymore. Barnes is a great ref, I'll stand by that. I think you don't realise how many things a ref has to check on each play. I am refereeing many games in amateur rugby in France and I can tell you this is a full concentration activity. Shitty calls happen and the rules of rugby leaves much space to interpretation. According to your name, you're probably Irish, and if you watch the last Wales Ireland you'll see how he always tries to keep the game carrying on and how he rewards the initiative, without advantaging unreasonably one team or the other. As for the managing of characters and hard plays, he is not as good as Owens who is the absolute reference but he is more than decent.
@seanryan2829 жыл бұрын
31lafouine sorry but tries to keep the game carrying on? he gave 25 penalties in the irish and welsh game, i think i read that before that game both teams had averaged giving away like 6 or 7 penalties a game, and not sounding like a bitter supporter but he gave 2 penalties to wales in the first half for ireland not rolling away but in the 2nd half during irelands attacking spell when wales absolutely shut us out,incredible defense, wales(especially faletau) were so slow at rolling away, and were slowing down irish ball and no penalties came for those offenses(they did get yellows for others im well aware but just for consistency sake). also i hate using irish games as examples but he did ref two of their games this 6 nations and both i found he made some ridiculous calls
@31lafouine9 жыл бұрын
Yeah for the continuity of the game that match was not a good example, I concede. But I thought his refereeing was good. And Ireland is my 2nd favorite rugby team (I am French).
@seanryan2829 жыл бұрын
31lafouine just a thing with irish fans, we don't like wayne barnes, with munster, leinster and ireland we have a terrible winning record when wayne barnes is the referee, love nigel owens and joubert, they let the game flow and dont take shit from anyone
@JackMilner3211 жыл бұрын
Well done to the referee. As someone who has played Union for years he was warned, warned again. Correct decision.
@LukesCase9 жыл бұрын
Still gives me goosebumps
@johnstorrie36353 жыл бұрын
It supposed to also apply in football but how often is it. They are more interested in disallowing goals for being mms offside.
@carwynmorris876711 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest knobs in Rugby history, along with Ashton, their like brothers ;)
@jahs10theroyalz4211 жыл бұрын
I whole heartily agree with you!!
@AndyLNorthants11 жыл бұрын
Shame that you don't know him then! Because that 'knob' has done more for charity than you can imagine. And that is the same 'knob' who goes round and chats to the disabled children around the stadium. Home or away, win or lose. You shouldn't judge, because if I had the choice to be him or you, I'd definitely choose him...
@carwynmorris876711 жыл бұрын
***** You may be right, but I don't know the guy. But from what iv'e seen he is a gigantic liability and he's still Captain of Northampton, he may be England's first choice hooker but he definitely is not the best hooker in the UK if you know what I mean ;)
@lewisrich968911 жыл бұрын
the most important part is what Wayne Barnes says at the beginning: 'and I think it's to me'. Whether the word cheat was aimed at Youngs or Barnes, he was walking on thin ice anyway, and said it looking at Barnes.
@maximada20038 жыл бұрын
every football ref should watch this
@smith96708 жыл бұрын
Dylan Hartley should be ashamed of himself. Man, this is RUGBY, gentleman's game, and rules of behaviour are very clear. BTW, this kind of respect for ref should be in every sport, especially in football, they are the worst.
@samuelpinder12153 жыл бұрын
Fifa is corrupt so until they employ refs that know the rules there wont be respect for refs in football
@mistol88196 жыл бұрын
I never understand why he’s England captain
@espergames198111 жыл бұрын
I have so many points that I want to make about this and what happened, but I just can't find the words to express how I feel. There are to many thoughts going through my head and when this happened I was not only shocked but very upset.
@kmooney19542 жыл бұрын
Great comment - not! Lots of words that said absolutely nothing! Why did you spend time typing this?
@espergames19812 жыл бұрын
@@kmooney1954 I could ask the same of you? This was also 8 years ago so whose really wasting their time typing? At least I got some amusement from this
@ccf32942 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite comment threads I’ve ever seen
@cyclingnut21227 жыл бұрын
can you imagine if they did this in football!!! there would be nobody on the pitch
@Zkkr42911 жыл бұрын
Was at this game, decided to make a dash for the bar on the first kick, missed scrum, sending off and penalty....what's more didn't realise Saints were down to 14 men until after the game.
@BobbyMakepeace11 жыл бұрын
sounds like many a rugby match I've been too.. always rushing for the bar! or a pee
@kmooney19542 жыл бұрын
Joe Hanson. Thanks for this historic briefing of your itinerary that has nothing to do with the content of this thread!
@Zkkr4292 жыл бұрын
@@kmooney1954 Fucking pillock, I am the content of this thread.
@mattyb37802 жыл бұрын
Honestly Wayne ABrnes has turned into one of the best refs in the game. Yes, he's had his bad moments, but no one's perfect. He handled this situation perfectly.
@peterlowry699011 жыл бұрын
Yes, Hartley was in the wrong, but am I not right in saying that it sounds like Wayne Barnes is saying 'can' rather than 'can't'?? I keep replaying it but twice he says the word and I definitely cannot make out a 't' sound at the end of the word!
@joaorosario640111 жыл бұрын
I think it's very hard to believe he wouldn't understand that. Specially given that Barnes tells him that "the game must restart". He couldn't be any clear. In fact it seems to me that Myler decided to ignore what the referee was telling him, or was just not paying attention. In any case, as Barnes told Hartley, "it's a player's responsibility" to know the rules of the game.
@hairyicedude11 жыл бұрын
I agree, I thought he said "can" too. This is what happens when people don't pronounce their words properly - Mr Barnes ought to pronounce it "carn't" to avoid any confusion.
@joaorosario640111 жыл бұрын
hairyicedude This pronunciation justification is just a very bad excuse. Did he also miss pronounce "the game must restart" and "there is still time"?
@EssentialOption10 жыл бұрын
Could have been clearer, but honestly, if you are unaware that the ball must be kicked into play to constitute a "restart" you have no business kicking it. All mistakes are made by Northampton here.
@robicenco110 жыл бұрын
It's simply a fact that if you pronounce "can't" with a short "a" then it sounds very similar indeed to "can", and especially in a noisy stadium the final "t" can disappear. So he really should have said "you CANNOT kick it out on the full" rather than "you CAN'T kick it out on the full". That would have left no possibility of being misheard. That said, the fly half should have realised that he couldn't kick it out on the full without the referee having to coach him through it.
@CobisTaba10 жыл бұрын
And even if he did not realize (wich is a bit silly, sigh...) the whole situation would not have mattered much if they had not given away a penalty. And even then... the red card was his own fault too.
@jackmiller-johnston868910 жыл бұрын
Any player in any sport who questions the ref's or official's authority has to be dismissed. Hartley deserved it 100%
@samuelpinder12153 жыл бұрын
Not football as all the refs are shite and if the ref is wrong why cant you question?
@iangascoigne82313 жыл бұрын
@@samuelpinder1215 If this were football he would have been sent of as well.
@samuelpinder12153 жыл бұрын
@@iangascoigne8231 highly doubt it. Half the football refs dont know the rules of the game
@iangascoigne82313 жыл бұрын
@@samuelpinder1215 There is no doubt at all, he would have been sent off.
@jayjay-713 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how football referees should be....
@maverickg3gbls1323 жыл бұрын
That whole debacle boils down to poor leadership and poor discipline from the captain, fancy 2 players being repeatedly warned yet did the exact opposite to what they were instructed to do.
@usr79412 жыл бұрын
Yeah shitty captain that dude
@JustinChipmunkToyStoryAnimator5 жыл бұрын
0:55 he doesn’t know how to play rugby 🏉
@DrCrabfingers Жыл бұрын
I would think that the hardest decisions as a referee are the ones that you know will be poorly received by fans and players...but that you know to the centre of your being that they are the correct and appropriate decisions. That is where a 100% understanding in the rules of the game come into play and by extension a 100% conviction that your decisions are correct. The referee is the rock that the ebb and flow of the tide of play revolves around. The referee's decision forms the landscape of play.