Top 5 Fastest Red Cards in Rugby!

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[@AndrewDavidForde]

DISCLAIMER: I concede that these probably aren’t the 5 fastest red cards of all time, there’s almost certainly faster reds cards out there, but these were the fastest I could come across - if you have footage of a red card in the same time frame, let me know and I’ll include it in a future video!

[@johnmc3862]

They are fast enough!

[@callummackay9804]

Great video. Rory Sutherland vs bath. The foul play happened within 15 seconds. He was sent off 1 minute into the game after the ref looked at incident

[@harrytutty1443]

Ewels v Ireland

[@AndrewDavidForde]

@@harrytutty1443 did you watch the video?

[@phillipevans6825]

@@harrytutty1443 l

[@ofs82]

Serious home cooking on the commentary for the last one. "He's just left a leg trailing" at the exact same time as the replay shows him raising his boot and extending his leg from the natural drop in order to catch Thomas in the face.

[@DaBoss69]

It never deliberate, but always unfortunate. Because those are always never planned, it's just a natural instinct. But unfortunate, always a red

[@davidw4970]

100% with you on this. So clear on slow-mo that it was intentional - perhaps not to get him in the mush, but certainly to make contact/fend off the advancing player. Nonsense from the commentator saying its a trailing leg. Absolutely wasn't.

[@snoopythedog3266]

Absolutely bollocks

[@MKRM27]

I do struggle to understand why anyone watching their team play, would want the commentator to be so partisan that he may as well be the drunk idiot stood next to you in the pub.

[@bigows6500]

Totally agree. Was surprised by the commentary. Seems pretty clear he raised his leg up.

[@Jamal-jv8yc]

Studding the opponents face whilst he was defenceless on the ground should have been reviewed and upgraded to a police investigation for assault.

[@Robodick4]

Totally agree, plus a ban from rugby for X number of years.

[@ocodeskamcdbsm]

The last red card was well deserved. In what planet do you raise your leg when you are coming down from a height. He knew exactly what he was doing. He lifted his leg up and kicked him in the face.

[@morganjones9269]

Billy slater planet

[@SASZA.101]

dumb commentator saw otherwise

[@AllUpOns]

Agreed. It's not a "leg trailing in the air" like the commentator says. It's one thing to lift your knee to protect your body, but it's quite another to lift your entire leg, look at the other player, and then go straight-legged right to his face.

[@Gener1KGaming]

When he loses the ball backwards he raises his leg in an attempt to swing his upper body backwards to regather. Try it when you're jumping on a trampoline or into some water, it's instinctual if you're trying to grab something behind you. Unfortunately but definitely not intentional.

[@johnnybegood9742]

yeah 100% can't see why Warbuton didn't see the same. Clearly intentional.

[@aussiebubble659]

First red card with koroibete was overturned and downgraded to a yellow after the game

[@MrHistorian123]

Doesn't change the fact that they had to play the game with 14 men, though, does it?

[@keefrasputin634]

Terrible red card decision, especially considering the very real evidence of a faked injury. It made the victory even sweeter, but you have to feel for Koroibete .

[@PeacockRhino]

And that in a nutshell is the problem. The directives aren't being applied consistently. Both codes of rugby are going to struggle to survive as professional sports if they keep going like this with refs over reacting - if people pay for a 15 or 13 aside contest and matches are ruined every week after 5 mins fans will stop watching. The NRL has got this right and the other leagues need to apply some common sense.

[@lcoconstruction2660]

Proper order, I played for years and would have had a card every week in the modern game! You play off your instincts and split second decisions!

[@petergarbutt9521]

@darryl paynts ITS JUST NOT CRICKET OLD CHAP

[@jamesbrawn5458]

Behaviour will start to change with tackle height. 2011 time spear/tip tackles went from being a ‘good tackle’ to a red. Hence the outrage at Warburton’s Red card in the WC semi. It was the correct call as per the laws, but it being policed strictly with yellows or reds wasn’t really a thing. The change in the law was to protect players from head and neck injuries. Players don’t tip/spear now. Taking the player out in the air used to in many cases only be a penalty or yellow, whereas since the early 2010’s. Another law to protect players from head and neck injuries. Now we don’t see it anywhere near as much. Players can tackle low, and know that hitting above the nipple line runs the risk of a red. The law was changed to protect players from head and neck injuries. Eventually behaviour will change. To those who argue that you can’t tackle low, you can. Players like Richard Hill, Dan Lydiate, Justin Tipuric & Thierry Dusautoir made a career of it. Yes tactically you go high to prevent the offload, or to hold a player up for a choke tackle. But getting a player down on the deck as quickly as possible means you can jackal. A good portion of Warburton’s turnovers came from Lydiate chopping a player down right in front of him.

[@Matt_Alaric]

Spear tackles were outlawed decades before 2011...

[@qmkut9121]

Warburton didn’t spear the player (although he wasn’t far off getting to that point) - but most of outrage was because those tackles were punished inconsistenly in the tournament (some only getting penalties.)

[@chrissingleton8875]

In school you get taught to tackle low, then for some reason this is reversed at the professional level to a point players who do 'make a career of it'

[@davidanderson4091]

And here's something to consider. In the 1970s and 1980s (when I was still playing the game) players were coached to put their head above the hip next to the ball-carrier's waist, wrap the arms and drive or drag the player to the ground. Tackles were more side-on than head-on, injuries in the tackle were quite rare, and normally down to very poor timing or very poor technique. From the 1990's onwards, as more and more players learned the skill of offloading the ball as they were tackled, tackle heights began to rise in order to trap the ball in the tackle. As a result, the players' builds gradually changed to give them more upper body strength, leading to more upright, more head-on tackles, and ball carriers learned to brace themselves. Along with that came higher and higher injury rates and the game changed from being a contact sport into being a collision sport. A return the technique of tackling below the armpits seems to be one possible answer to this problem. Now, I know there will be people out there who will bemoan this - they will complain that the "game is going soft", but we really have to take a dose of reality here. In many countries, player numbers in the grass roots, particularly at the school and junior club levels, are in decline, because parents are increasingly reluctant to let their kids play a sport that can get them seriously injured or even killed. If the game is to survive, it has to embrace reality.

[@Matt_Alaric]

@@davidanderson4091 I mean pretending that rugby isn't going to survive is the opposite of embracing reality.

[@StanWilks]

I knew the moment Charlie Ewels was red-carded that this video was coming!

[@Karma-qt4ji]

LOL we all did and Andrew obliged :)

[@Blade-cb5hd]

Same

[@jameschristmas3206]

Haha same 😂

[@MiniMatthew]

He would also be number 1 at the softest red cards lol

[@mrstamp5121]

Wasn’t the ref a French man to make it easier for the last match?

[@pidgey4791]

The commentators on the last one must be watching a different clip, that’s a kick in the face end of

[@MichaelClark-uw7ex]

Yes but wasn't it his own teammate?

[@jamesdyeomans]

You can see Wayne Barnes reaching for his cards before Wood's even finished his stamp

[@MichaelClark-uw7ex]

Honorable mention to Ben Flower in the 2014 Super League Grand Final. First man to be sent off in a Grand Final and less than 2 minutes in. He got a 6 month ban and pretty much ruined his career as well

[@etiennedevignolles7538]

He should have done prison time for that. It was disgusting.

[@brownandrew778]

Aldo Adrain Morley in the GB /Aus test - 12 seconds kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIjUp6B9mcmer9k

[@jmitchellbelderson]

If we're adding Rugby League we've got to mention Adrian Morley's red against Australia after a whole 12 seconds!!

[@nickijolly4551]

Do you mind making a video called , 'Best delayed passes in rugby' please. btw love your content. :D

[@japphan]

Last one: "I would be very disappointed". For getting a red after planting your studs into the face of an opponent? He was scared of getting tackled after landing, so he decided to prevent it by any means.

[@Whatareyoudoinginmyswamp.]

- shouldering/shoulderbutting/shoulderpopping - charging/bumping/nudging/crashing/launching/jumping in - trash talk/conduct - headbutting/nodding/headshook/heading - stomping/stamping/footing/feeting/jumping/stepping on - kicking/legging

[@luchogonzealaise3717]

It's interesting to see most, if not all (I don't know the context of the step on the head), of these red cards were given to the home team which is quite courageous from the refs.

[@mikecrain2076]

That first hit, this is my problem with contact sports head contact rules in general. The offensive player created that head contact by leaning down. The offensive player should be just as responsible for their actions creating the head contact as the defensive player

[@ThisIsAitch]

Which is generally why they look for mitigation. This is borderline yellow/red, could be argued either way really. The defensive player stopped down a bit, but it wasn't much.

[@mikecrain2076]

@@ThisIsAitch i hear you, i just dont think mitigation is enough. If an offensive player lowers their head to initiate contact they should get a card just as a defensive player would

[@andrewneedham3281]

@@mikecrain2076 Didn't it get dropped to yellow in appeal?

[@mikecrain2076]

@@andrewneedham3281 it did. And that was the right call as far as the defender was concerned, at least as far as the rules are written currently. But it still didn't punish the offensive player for his actions that caused the contact

[@luchogonzealaise3717]

@@mikecrain2076 But you can't expect the ball carrier to just stand there without setting up for a contact with a man running to him at full speed. That's just a normal body reaction.

[@jacobcreech4382]

The first one doesn’t even look like a yellow for me, looked around shoulders and a perfectly legit tackle.

[@philsswweightlossdiary2944]

His shoulder hits him in the cheek/jaw. It’s a clear red.

[@COBBL]

@@philsswweightlossdiary2944 you are genuinely blind. Also the red card was quickly struck from the record

[@philsswweightlossdiary2944]

@@COBBL World Rugby said they reviewed all the angles and that initial contact was shoulder to shoulder. After watching this at slow speed they must have had an angle nobody else saw because it’s not shoulder to shoulder.

[@Matt_Alaric]

@@philsswweightlossdiary2944 It's shoulder to shoulder even with the French player crouching into it. Terrible call.

[@David-ud9ju]

That French player should have been the one sent off for diving. Absolute disgrace. It was such an obvious dive.

[@aspen471]

That dude on the first clip 100% took a dive

[@benjabin6729]

Yep, he wasn't even holding the same place he was hit

[@armellelalicorne3555]

Keep crying

[@aspen471]

@@armellelalicorne3555 you sound like you drive a Prius my guy

[@ELRMushroom]

I had a feeling this one was coming

[@Nicklogann]

Before watching I just know Payne’s red for Ulster is in this somewhere. And I don’t know if I can bring myself to go through that again. What a sad day. We came so close to winning too

[@Nicklogann]

And it’s in it 😂

[@Dizzylittlelord]

First time I've seen it. I don't even agree it's a red. Eyes on the ball the whole time, if he'd jumped it would have been a 50/50 and no issues. Harsh red

[@rory4016]

that Jared Payne Redcar broomy heart. still gutted about that game

[@krishollanddoyle5062]

That first red is soft as calvita cheese man, Aussie guy would have had to run on his knees to tackle the french guy 'legally' the way he dropped

[@sueyourself5413]

But he didn't.

[@Matt_Alaric]

@@sueyourself5413 Hence his criticism of the call...

[@sueyourself5413]

@@Matt_Alaric Take that dumb flag off of your profile. It means nothing.

[@jamiejenkins9096]

Tbf koroibete still comes in high. In most tackle situations he’d be hitting at shoulder height at lowest. Extremely unfortunate, but it is a red

[@changrcaterham5784]

That Australia v France one is taking the piss, tackler is literally horizontal at the hips, had the French player not leaned forward he would have been folded yes, but there wouldn’t be any danger to the head

[@dcmj3798]

i agree with you it is pretty harsh, but i get the feeling that the pressure on the refs to protect the head and neck of a player is bigger than them getting it wrong and sending someone off harshly. RFU doesnt want to be sued for millions when players start getting brain issues at the age of 40. although it feels like it can ruin the game, it is just a game at the end of the day and these players family lifes can be torn apart by brain injuries.

[@rossman3658]

Agree. That ball carrier clearly dipped into the tackle. Also milked it a whole lot.

[@Aydmcc15]

Agreed

[@Matt_Alaric]

@@dcmj3798 I'm sure there's an Orwell quote about the worst dictators being the ones who are doing it because they think they're being helpful... he's not wrong. The concept of adults being able to make their own choices seems to be disappearing.

[@dcmj3798]

@@Matt_Alaric yea i know what youre trying to say, and ive heard the argument that rugby is a brutal and dangerous game, but its one thing to break a leg and a completely different thing to get brain damage. (im not saying i think he should be sent off for this tackle btw, i think the player dropped into the tackle, im just stating that the refs are under immense pressure to protect the players)

[@darthmong7196]

Koroibete's was harsh. Initial point of contact looked like it was the shoulder and he rode up onto a dipping player. If that isn't mitigation, I don't know what is.

[@MrHistorian123]

It was an absolutely outrageous decision. The contact was below the shoulder and the French player ducked into it. Not even a penalty.

[@chrisdavis3907]

It got rescinded that red card upon review

[@MrHistorian123]

@@chrisdavis3907 Australia still had to play with 14 men for the rest of the game, though, didn't they? It didn't right that wrong, did it?

[@kkk77522]

Clip 2 I kind of get, but in his defence they were both looking at the ball!

[@WillCamx]

Clip 2 you could argue the player who caught the ball jumped into the white 15 and hit him in the head. I can see uncontested catches from kicks coming in for safety.

[@Biffo1262]

No foul at all for me. 50/50. Ref out order with a straight red.

[@andrewneedham3281]

@@Biffo1262 Gotta have situational awareness when jumping for the ball. Yeah, he has a right to jump for the ball, but he's also responsible for what he does while in the air.

[@andreasrombouts2834]

Exactly thats what i was thinking

[@geordiecarotz9958]

What you get from these videos more than anything else is how often the former players in commentary get it wrong.

[@philsswweightlossdiary2944]

Cue the ‘that’s never a red, game’s gone soft’ brigade.

[@MrSupermugen]

its not that, its the fact its a physical game and in real time things arent what they are slowed down. how much do you dumb down a physical game? This is literally like saying "lets slow down race cars because they are too fast" - nobody watches. Rugby viewings, especially in the southern HS are hugely down - Rugby league(nrl) have good a good balance of physical and safety with alot of common sense. big guy on little guy...how tf is a 6"4 or so guy ment to bend down to tackle some 5"7 at "correct" waist height? Im a massive die hard rugby fan but its hard to watch my sport get dumbed down so much.

[@longlostvideos191]

that’s never a red, game’s gone soft !

[@fergus3083]

@@MrSupermugen at the end of the day it’s done to protect the players. I’d rather see a few “contentious” decisions every so often if it means that these players can live a healthy life after they’ve retired.

[@yourmomskitchen3236]

@@fergus3083 NRL doesnt have any of that and the hits are still amazingly hard and doesnt get dumbed down like Union?

[@owyn4799]

@@yourmomskitchen3236 The NRL are trying to introduce it maybe it's the differences in games but when ex players are suing because of onset dementia it's not a good look so something needs to change.

[@harryhughes3740]

Didn’t like how the French player milked that tackle.

[@ppg8170]

Back when I was in school, game started are kicker kicked short to them and his boot came off and hit the other team player clean in the nose.... blood started coming out and the ref then handed our kicker a red card! Fastest red I've ever seen

[@hitop2365]

1. Simulation by the Frenchman. 2. 50/50 ball no red. 3. Unfortunate but red. 4. Madness. 5. Clear dirty play, definite red.

[@maximewerner6474]

Are you kidding even the two first are red cards. 1. Contact with head with force 2. He has no chance to get the ball

[@beasty5876]

@@maximewerner6474 2. he doesn't even see the player

[@BMAN0310]

@@beasty5876 that’s his problem

[@Origynet]

1. No clear Videos of contact to the head. Hard to deliberate. Simulation it might be. 2. He does not seem to be playing the ball and not paying attention, i agree with the red card here. 3. Agreed 4. Agreed 5. Agreed

[@alarson1799]

@@Origynet 2. His head is up, looking directly at the ball the whole way with his arms outstretched to catch the ball. Not playing the ball? You can argue that he should have checked where the opponent was, but in no way can you reasonably say he wasn't playing the ball.

[@nikolakozhuharov1042]

that's the moment when Dan Evans' ATP ranking plummeted

[@kazbaz2011]

The James Ryan one was one of the quickest I’ve seen 🛑

[@bart1591]

Yeah i felt like that last one he lifted his leg on the way down.

[@twiddlybob5021]

impressive

[@jadawin10]

4:25 What a classless thug...

[@timmyedwards1696]

That first one is the softest red card I’ve ever seen in my entire life. He doesn’t even connect with his face, yet that is what he holds. If he stays in his feet, that doesn’t get a second look. But typical France, surrenders instantly.

[@matthewjohnson3087]

Couldn't agree more, even my 11yr old son said WTF!!

[@waratahdavid696]

There were 2 soccer dives in that tour. Both by France.

[@sebwalkervibes]

yea yellow card

[@varch18]

not even a yellow card@@sebwalkervibes

[@tornikechumburidze5237]

Are you fucking serious. He took a shoulder hit straight into his face by a 100+kg man running at him at full speed. He is lucky to have survived that

[@grantharriman284]

Coming from sports like soccer and american football the way the rules are written in Rugby seems difficult for competitive play. So much of the rules are written to protect the person being tackled, and largely justified in being so, but it makes tackling very difficult to do legally. In this video even 0:45 the player in orange is coming in well below shoulder height for the standing player, has to be moving fast to get there in time, and when the blue player braces for the hit the arm barely clips his head, so it's a red card. Separate 1:42 if you run under a ball, but the opponent jumps from outside your field of view and gets undercut because you are going for the same ball, it's a red card on you. I would not have been able to make any significant change to how either of those players played that situation.

[@AllUpOns]

It should be said that American football is going through a similar problem trying to protect QBs and receivers. Except it's even worse there because the officiating is already terrible.

[@grantharriman284]

@@AllUpOns I very much agree around the QB, but less so around the receivers. Most of the time the receivers are are being covered at least fairly closely, so the players are more or less running in the same direction and are generally aware of what the other player is doing. I completely agree with the critique of our referees though. Those guys are basically blind.

[@MKRM27]

I’m actually surprised attacking teams haven’t developed strategies that trick defenders into performing illegal high tackles, to get opposition player sent off

[@justincozy]

This is rugby not soccer.

[@juniorndlovu3310]

Surely the Koroibete hit should’ve been a yellow

[@TheChin58]

It should have been as the main mitigating factor there was that both players were low bracing for a tackle, it wasn't done at full height

[@COBBL]

If you look closely at all of the replays it wasn’t even hitting jelonchs head

[@bestinbusiness1]

@@TheChin58 Nope red all day. He's barely lowered himself and Koroibete went upwards. Cry more.

[@maoribrotha53]

@@bestinbusiness1 Nope they both bend down and Koroibete doesn’t go upwards until after contact.

[@fraserdonald6039]

@@bestinbusiness1 Cry more? mate the Aussies won that game and the overall series. Grow up you Flog

[@danielcamposano6039]

The kick at the end was clearly intentional... announcers saying it was normal ... o.O lol

[@frankw9619]

Great Britain v Australia. Adrian Morley sent off for the first tackle of the game after 12 seconds.

[@DaBoss69]

I dunno if they would count it coz it's rugby leauge but I would tho

[@willjennings5252]

I've seen that one. It is worth a red card every day of the week, brutal

[@frankw9619]

@@willjennings5252 The irony being that he was drinking with some of the Australian team later that night and they were re-enacting it for laughs.

[@willjennings5252]

@@frankw9619 ha ha ha I didn't know that. Sport should be like that though, all friends in the bar afterwards. You want to win, you do all you can but it's a game. A game to be played and enjoyed.

[@540andy]

I dont know rugby rulles so please explain me someone. In that second clash get red card player who doesnt jump. In Rugby its faul when you doesnt jump?

[@henfc456]

Am I right in saying even if all these at not deliberate they are deserved red cards?

[@Rab_Daddy]

First one not too sure. 2nd one happened to me playing - blew my SE joint in my shoulder. Ref didn’t do 💩 More annoyed I only got 10 minutes wearing our alternate home jersey 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Porkchop259]

No 1, Yellow for the tackle Red to French player for pretending. No 2, Red, Unlucky in how he landed but still a red No 3, Red, No issues No 4, Red, old timer getting carried away. No 5, Red and he should have had the sh1t beaten out of him after the match.

[@kieranl7933]

Thought the first one was a harsh red, the Australian is clearly trying to dip his height in the tackle. Also I didn’t like how the French player milked it. How Sam Warbuton is employed as a pundit I have no idea, player sticks up his leg to stud someone in the face. And he sees nothing wrong with it, either he is clueless or biased.

[@AndrewDavidForde]

Sam Warburton is actually a great pundit in my opinion, the way he explains complex things to casual viewers is much better than most pundits around - but I can't defend what he's saying in that red card incident.

[@andrewneedham3281]

Word. Those were my two major grievances, as well.

[@karenmulhern9649]

Thought the first one was very harsh & second one too as he had his eye on the ball all the time but first one nah

[@jamers505]

What about worcester vs bath earlier this year, Rory sutherland got about 30 seconds of play time. Still loved the video :)

[@AndrewDavidForde]

It was 7 minutes, but yes that could well be included in a future vid

[@jamers505]

@@AndrewDavidForde i think the hit was 30 seconds in and the decision took quite a while, as i was there and it was one of the first tackles made

[@AndrewDavidForde]

@@jamers505 he didn’t go off until the 6th minute

[@lewisthornton3]

Can you do a tribute to max Deegan pls

[@wolfclaw3366]

I'm just wondering but did the guy who stamped on another players head get anything more then a red card like a suspension or even charges cuz that's beyond the heat of the moment i accidently got a little rough into some serious i want to change your life territory

[@RabbitWhiteThe]

The first red card is a shockingly bad call by the ref. Wow!!

[@chriskelly9361]

The Denisovan one was a bit unfair.

[@nightlystalkers]

It would be nice in football if we had this kind of refeering. We would know what they are saying and what they are thinking. Maybe would mitigate some abuse as well

[@admiralbenbow5083]

No 1. Ohhh the theatrics !

[@marklewis1406]

Nick Wood now a premiership official

[@AkAsCoTTii3]

There’s no way that first tackle was a red. Yellow at most.

[@RhysOlwyn]

Surprised none of the Tuilagi brothers were in this video

[@goliath_red1102]

3:08 that’s an obstruction…

[@varch18]

first tackle was literally a perfect tackle it was below the shoulder he wrapped tmo is so blind

[@aetd106]

The 3rd one (England) seems a bit rough to me - looks like he's trying to get around to the ball out the back but I'm also not a referee so who cares what I think. Tough decision but probably correct under the laws

[@LFire12]

Ryan offloads at the last second, Ewels is committed to tackling him, if he thought the ball was going out the back he never would've gone in that way. He was high all the time, and while there might be something to say of the difficulty of a 2nd row tackling a shorter man, he was tackling a fellow 2nd row and 100 percent had to go in lower. This is one of the most clear cut of 'tackling' reds, highlighted by the fact that there was not one dissenting voice from the England squad/management afterwards.

[@aetd106]

@@LFire12 that's fair - as I said I can see it both ways but not claiming it was unfair or incorrect

[@craliarave8069]

For me the first 2 were kind of a grey area. I think the probably should have been a yellow or smth.

[@harsimarmanj]

You are forgetting the most important person over here , Dylan Hartley . 😂😂😂

[@MichaelClark-uw7ex]

Ben Flower

[@symeremeyers4148]

But tbf why didn’t Jelonch have to go for a HIA ?

[@davewilson9738]

Charlie Ewels was unlucky, he was wrapping arms, but two big blokes there is not a lot of space.

[@oliverburgess8542]

Might be the only one but Jelonch did drop low for that Koroibete tackle

[@icedbunn89]

The thing is that every player drops into the tackle because if you don't you'll lose the contact. Tacklers have to expect this and adjust accordingly and if they don't it's the type of negligence that the game is trying to eradicate

[@johncolwell2188]

that one got overturned on appeal, unsurprisingly.

[@vsmith1688]

Asking as a rugby novice, why was the Jared Payne one a sending off? It looked the other guy turned into him.

[@kamyueloh]

1st one is crazy.

[@robertfourie9159]

The French lay it on thick.

[@bristolrugby08]

Isn't Nick Wood now on the citing review panels? If he is oh the irony

[@Richardtv1968]

The last red card was a clear one, eyes on the opponent ….deliberately

[@dalejrose1287]

Wasn't Elliott Daly red carded against Argentina relatively early during a game?

[@AndrewDavidForde]

Yep, but it wasn’t as quickly as the Koroibete hit

[@cormacdoyle2433]

@@AndrewDavidForde that koroibete hit shouldn't be a red card it should have been a yellow

[@AndrewDavidForde]

@@cormacdoyle2433 wasn’t me who awarded the red card but under the laws it is a red

[@cormacdoyle2433]

@@AndrewDavidForde still it was a bit soft easily along with the last ones the softest of the red cards

[@AndrewDavidForde]

@@cormacdoyle2433 under the laws they’re still red cards

[@4HBirtcher]

Some of the games I think some of those ejections are unfair ejections!

[@davidhalaholo2380]

Cool. 😁

[@sbrother176]

Give a academy award to the first one. That was a legit tackle.

[@wrightyy]

A Grammy is for music mate. An academy award, an Emmy or a Tony award are for acting.

[@sbrother176]

@@wrightyy I stand corrected. My bad. Whatever it maybe, music video or acting in movies good acting tho.

[@flyawaytodie]

How is the white fullback supposed to safely bail out of that situation WITHOUT touching the blue player whilst blue is in midair? I'd *love* to see that Matrix style trick in a rugby match!

[@patrickknoops1728]

For me it looks like blue jumps into white. White didn't even see him coming.

[@TheCitizenPain]

All these years on I’m still sour about the Payne red card. Should’ve been a yellow.

[@christopherwilson3763]

I would argue that by the letter of the law it wasn't even a penalty. Payne did not challenge Goode in the air; he ran forward trying to catch the ball and collided with Goode who had jumped and got to the ball fractionally earlier. There was no tackle.

[@charliemaney6695]

@@christopherwilson3763 it doesn't matter that there wasn't a "tackle" he never made a fair contest fir the ball, and he took dangerous action that resulted on an injured player. Weather its red or yellow is a fair discussion but its easily a penalty.

[@christopherwilson3763]

@@charliemaney6695 I don't think the terms you are using were covered by the laws. There was an ammendment a couple of years after this incident that involved being in a realistic position to challenge for the ball, but Payne was sent off for tackling Goode in the air. The referee literally says it's a dangerous tackle when sending him off, so the fact that there was no tackle and just an accidental collision of players is exactly what does matter.

[@bluestuable]

First one was completely wrong. there absolutely was mitigation. Always be careful with high tackles against Irish, the always play act to get you sent off.

[@TimStamper89]

How that first one was a red is beyond me

[@matthewwightman8602]

I will never understand how Jared Payne was red carded, he never took his eyes off that ball.

[@maelmao]

Yep, don’t understand either

[@thomas_corbet]

@@maelmao I don't think that matters any more. The criteria are, was he in a position to contest the ball (generally you're not if you don't jump and your opponent does, depending on timing, etc), and how does the opponent land. Therefore, even if Payne's eyes were in fact on the ball, it's just deemed reckless rather than foul play, but still worthy of a red card.

[@davidmangan4]

@@maelmao that doesn't come into it at all. He got nowhere near a realistic position to catch the ball so he wasn't competing for it. In that case he just straight took him out of the air rather than clash as they both went up for it.

[@Weirdanimator]

I think it was because Goode's head hit the deck as a consequence of Payne's challenge. If there was no head impact, I would say that was a yellow. It doesn't matter how it happens, if you take someone over the horizontal it's your responsibility to make sure they land safely.

[@johnmc3862]

But but safety is an even more important factor.

[@alanplumb1983]

Did you just mean in Rugby Union? As Pretty sure the Wigan Warriors v Saint Helens match in which Flowers saw red for Wigan was quicker

[@jonathanrichards4584]

Last two were Red all day long, Ewell and kurunbeti very unlucky.

[@beau4170]

why are red cards so common when the way the laws and the refereeing allow the head to be at the forefront of most tackles and beak downs?

[@ouiouipiggy4390]

Last one by far the worst as it is clearly intended and seriously dangerous!! What was the commentator waffling about - clear red even before the recent changes in the law!

[@henalihenali]

Mike burton 3 mins england against australia 1975

[@battheman777]

What was up with that first one? I didn't know soccer players had infiltrated rugby

[@PvtVallen]

what the fuck was the commentator watching on the last one lmao, jackie chan would be proud of that kick.

[@user-cc5hl9nb2x]

Maybe many of these refs shouldve given themselves the red card😂

[@michaelpibostherapyrecipes5699]

I used to play from 2005 to 2008 high school and then some club rugby in Kenya... To be honest some of these should be legal tackles IMO. I have no idea why they should be red. The rules these days are changing and that's making rugby less interesting than it was. Why how would a really tall player tackle a really short player without bending down and ramming him head and shoulder fast? That's just stupid! Let's petition! Go back to the old school where the game was really interesting 😅

[@johnfurlong2261]

If it's titled 5 fast in Rugby, don't rule out Rugby League. Aidran Morley, 12 seconds, GB v Australia RL test match.

[@jhome1254ify]

how on earth was the first a red??? frenchman dropped the shoulder?

[@shaggyirl]

The second clip was BS if the both players have their eyes on the ball then it bound to be a collision even if one player is in the air you cannot say it’s a tackle if the player still on the ground has his eyes on the ball

[@Savoycabbage]

If you go through it then you have to come to a red card conclusion according to the laws - 1. the Ulster player was in no realistic position to catch the ball i.e. he hadn't made an attempt to jump to compete. This results in the Saracens player being taken out in the air - all this means that it's considered foul play. Intention does not come into it. It doesn't matter that his eyes were on the ball throughout, you have to jump to compete a high ball like that. 2. An act of foul play that results in a dangerous contact to the head with force is a red card. If you work through it all then it's a pretty simple decision for the referee.

[@beng165]

That Jared Payne one still hurts me. We had a great team that year and should have beaten sarries 😭

[@chittsy99]

Adrian Morley's will always be fastest

[@glenchapman3899]

Na saw johnny Cogger last about 10 seconds in a game. Ran on as a sub and flattened a winger on the other team as he was running onto the field lol

[@TomParkinson]

5, Koroibete clearly lowered his height, as did the French 8. Absolute penalty at the most. 4, Payne had his eyes on the ball the whole time. Shocking call.

[@jjobeyy]

for number 4 he never has a chance of catching it, runs in recklessly and dangerously

[@TomParkinson]

@@jjobeyy he’s catching that 10/10 times if someone wasn’t there. he didn’t know someone was there because he was looking at the ball the whole time

[@koroslav]

@@TomParkinson your disputation is legit, but it does not mean, that he has no resposibility. He still has resposibility to look around and tackle safe. He was unaware of his surroundings and went for the ball, made bad tackle and the guy landed on the head, clear red. It is like if you were concentrating on the lights on a crossroad, hit the pedal on the green and smashed an ambulance. You had green light, but you still have to be aware of the surroundings and yield to an ambulance.

[@TomParkinson]

@@koroslav after making my comment i looked at more examples. i now do agree that the player does have to have eyes on their surroundings, your judgment is 100% correct.

[@koroslav]

@@TomParkinson it is literally first time on KZbin, when I had reasonable conversation with someone about sport and it did not turn into a mess. Kudos to you tom, you have restored my faith in humanity

[@tasquizztaylor1698]

First two were absolute crap. Ref had a vendetta against Australia with the Koroibete red. I don't see how he could have ducked lower to make the tackle without slowing down and letting the guy run away. As well as that the ball carried ducked a good foot into it.

[@AndrewDavidForde]

Australia won that game so to say the ref had a vendetta against Australia is just objectively wrong

[@alanplumb1983]

Guessing this list is purely for Rugby Union.

[@ernestjones8164]

Why was the #15 for Ulster sent off. It was a 50/50 ball and both players were going for it. I don't know why players jump up in the air to catch the ball. It should not have been a red card. Rugby needs to get their rules reformed.

[@elih9700]

Last 2 red, the others no way.

[@alexk2652]

Adrian Morley on Robbie Kearns. Didn't make 10 sec

[@christophecamboulive6679]

First 3 are in my opinion ridiculous, last 2 are legit red cards!

[@sampenno4368]

The 4th one is a red but the other 4 should be ‘worst decisions in rugby’ video