Dynasty Warriors 9 - The Worst Dynasty Warriors Game Ever Made (Jimpressions)

[@JimSterling]

My detractors were right. Hard mode changes EVERYTHING (lol) mobile.twitter.com/JimSterling/status/963559483061530624

[@minhnguyenquang7220]

You took the poor thing out of its misery from being in this game. Thank you!

[@ArcaneAzmadi]

Why the hell do animals teleport back 2 feet when you hit them with arrows anyway?

[@minhnguyenquang7220]

ArcaneAzmadi It doesn't want an arrow in its arse, duh. Tigers shoving their head into walls and teleporting around is just them in their natural habitat.

[@TheRAMBO9191]

my first dw game was 4, and i played 3 more dynasty games after that one, inlcuding samuria warriors series and orochi warriors. and holy shit you are sssoooo pissed about this game, im on my 4th watch its fucking hilarious how fucked this game is, they price it for 63bucks here in the states and its a barren fucking waste land and the enemies dont even move xD. its like after a year of developement if that and they just said fuck it all and hit release after drinking some beer xD xD. #dynastywarriors9moneyback!

[@Miti-Mumway]

wow Life of Black Tiger got an expansion?

[@queencyrys6309]

Christ, the environment looks like a stock asset.

[@queencyrys6309]

It gets worse the further into the video i get my god . I love FE Warriors and Hyrule warriors, they’re great time wasters. This is more revolting than fucking in the rotten vale.

[@PeterWDawson]

I wouldn't go that far... but yeah, I see where you're coming from.

[@queencyrys6309]

PeterWDawson its flag, the trees look like they were popped in to resemble anything resembling the presence of something the textures are flat and dull, you could remove the dynasty warriors name and you’d think this was from early access.

[@woodlandspirit160]

and its the best looking game in the intire series, dynasty warriors was always shit.

[@smjaiteh]

With the empty space, lack of activity and terrible textures, it’s the best looking Digital Homicide game ever made.

[@Iceberqe]

Why is everybody hating this game, i think its great that Tecmo hasnt forgotten the PS2 and is still releasing games on that platform in 2018. I mean of course its not gonna be technically and gameplay wise on the same level as games on the current gen due to technical limitations.

[@CeruleanRogue]

I almost spat my tea all over my keyboard. +1 to you. xD

[@rotciv557]

Fuckin' made me lol.

[@ZaleraArkanus666]

Bwahahahah!

[@dreamerabe]

Iceberqe Niceeeeeee.

[@JimSterling]

As Zhang He would've said in the old days.... beautiful.

[@louiswho]

THIS IS ACTUALLY GENIUS, they made DW 9 utter garbage so that people will be begging for the old rehashed formula that we used to say we were sick of!

[@bluespaceman7937]

I almost wish they did that, but nah...they'll likely give you F2P DW with loot boxes and you'll wish they built on DW9 instead.

[@reagenlionel]

J G they already did that like 10 years ago. Lol

[@Rebel19470]

Yeah DW 10 coming 2024... that's a long time

[@jonnisko]

Goddamnit you are right. Didn't they do similar thing with the sixth or fifth one?

[@CursiveS]

+Marius and Sulla its sad this is the case too. I would LOVE to see this IP evolve into something even greater. Ive always loved the series and its a damn shame they really tripped up on this. I just dont get why these games seem to still have what i feel is such a limited budget.

[@Achillez098]

"It's like sex with me, it is a long time waiting for nothing to happen, and then a very short, insignificant anti-climax" -Jim Honest Sterling describing Dynasty Warriors 9, 2018

[@Sirrazorbladez]

Achillez if you truly know what you are doing this quote doesn’t have any actual significance

[@Skreamworks]

Dynasty Warriors 9: EXTREME BALLS AND CHAINS EDITION

[@DeadCamper]

Come to me, cover me, hold me Together we'll break these chains of balls

[@ricardodevilee5078]

And they're not even Chains of Love...

[@charizardoreo]

Balls and Chains of love

[@astonwilson8410]

I was waiting for Jim to say this is a shitty company spelling dynasty warriors slightly differently, changing all the characters a tiny amount and using the dynasty warrior's name to make a quick buck. THIS is the latest dynasty warriors? I haven't been keeping up with the franchise but jeez, has it gone downhill this much?

[@Shiirow]

Dynasty Warriors 9 : Hookin' you by the balls with chains

[@smjaiteh]

You say it’s “miles and miles of Oblivion”, but it’s more like miles and miles of metaphorical horse armor.

[@Shiirow]

horse armor and DLC weapons

[@karbo1752]

Oh my god... I just now got the joke... Thanks to you spelling it out. Absolutely hated oblivion when it came out and Skyrim also didn't fail to disappoint me.

[@EskChan19]

Oblivion was the best Elder Scrolls by far. Skyrim kinda sucked yeah but Oblivion... you really need to get some taste dude.

[@kosmosyche]

I am sorry, but Oblivion was so much better than this. I've played through Oblivion twice, then Knights of the Nine, then Shivering Isles, this shit couldn't keep me interested even for an hour. This is truly the end for the series...

[@jordanthejq12]

Neither TES4 nor Creation Club deserves that comparison.

[@JimSterling]

"Play it on harder modes!" I always start DW games on Normal for a while, then move onto Hard when I upgrade weapons. But this game was so fucking unfun I just lost all heart and didn't worry about it. However, for those squirming to negate my criticism, a few things: You can scream "hard mode" all day long. None of that negates ANY of my criticisms though. Even on harder modes, the map is still flat, the walls still scalable, the target enemy still signposted and right in front of you. I wasn't the one who put siege-negating grappling hooks and fast travel in it. I'm not gonna NOT use them, people. I shouldn't be made to redesign the game by restricting myself from using things in a desperate attempt to make the game more fun. Oh, and here's a tip from a DW veteran - when starting out any DW game in the past, they were still fun on normal mode. In fact, you'd usually play on Normal until a weapon upgrade before raising the difficulty, but I had a rotten time with this from the outset. So take your "hard mode" defense and put it on the back of a horse with auto-run switched on.

[@JimSterling]

Christ though, Dynasty Warriors 9 is unbelievably shit.

[@markpriestley6807]

Not a fan then?

[@JimSterling]

I was fighting Lu Bu with a starter weapon. Even on Normal he should have crushed me, or at least put up a fight. No, I'm not a fan at all.

[@Traison]

That's one thing I can't believe. When Lu Bu shows up, you run the other way, and even then he'll chase you down and make you wish you had your whole army behind your back... What you showed here made my mouth hang open.

[@bluespaceman7937]

I stand by that argument, because DW on Normal only has a very time limited appeal for me. If I were suffering so much due to the AI in DW9 being too static and boring me to death, I would at least try to switch difficulties rather than assume the entire game is only letting you attack enemies without response.

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

Koei went full "What's popular with kids these days?", except they're years behind on what's actually popular. Five to ten years from now their next Dynasty Warriors will have a battle royale mode.

[@brendenreecegaming284]

CidGuerreiro1234 if that’s the case Dynasty Warriors would be officially dead

[@skoomadesu2553]

Nah they're just gonna dump the series and stick to the loli shit

[@freelanceart1019]

@@skoomadesu2553 Dead or Alive 6

[@skoomadesu2553]

@@freelanceart1019 marie rose is borderline illegal in America. also altier or whatever that thing is called is their new prize horse

[@SuperSteve180]

Dynasty Warriors 10 will be an FPS.

[@Nikke-nn5mn]

70€ on steam. Everyone who said games should cost more than 60$ it's your lucky day

[@VodKaSlam]

Nikke 2800 this game is another reason why torrents exist lol

[@xyfghter99]

This game isn't even worth the hard drive space.

[@dnothstylez]

+Andrew Juchniewicz I don't know if you watched the same video the rest of us did, but this game doesn't even look like it's worth the time to download, even for free.

[@accelerator8558]

Holy shite, why so expensive

[@kisame886]

Not only expensive, the port is horrible

[@pokemonmanic3595]

You know what they say; you either die young or live long enough to be Dynasty Warriors 9

[@TheSoopanerd]

'I guess that makes us the true Dynasty Warriors, nein?'

[@tehfoxxy9630]

an open world game?

[@Shadow60f]

That's a jim original saying made yer own, good on ya dood XD

[@Carnagath82]

Tecmo to the devs: - "Guys, you know the ONLY good thing about Dynasty Warriors? Having to clear densely packed areas and fortresses by launching 500 people up in the air and then slamming them down repeatedly?" -"Yeah?" -"Let's remove that" -"Ok, what should we replace it with?" -"Dunno. Skinning and herbing sounds good."

[@monsterfurby]

That must have been somewhere around DW4 or 5 though, when they stopped having massive battles and replaced them with tiny spawned units of MOBA minions moving on lanes between control points.

[@bluespaceman7937]

The thing is, you can still launch a lot of people into the air and beat them down like that. It's not been removed.

[@Carnagath82]

J G As is obvious in the video, the crowds have been thinned down a lot and the encounters are interrupted by minutes of horse riding in the middle of nowhere. I haven't played the game, but from what I saw I'm not looking forward to playing it.

[@TheZombieMack]

Y'know, though. If they had taken an idea from Mount and Blade, this could have worked. Imagine playing a more 'open ended' Dynasty Warriors game, where you make your own character (ala Samurai Warriors Chronicles) at the beginning of the game. There are several groups to start, with Wu, Shu, and Wei being the 'defaults' but options for Yellow Turbans, Meng Huo, Dong Zho, Yuan Shao, and the like. Instead of bland location to location riding to scripted events, you'd get Dynasty Warriors gameplay in each battle, and you could choose your own side. Marry into the families, etc. etc. etc... Basically, take the Empires idea, mix in Mount and Blade control schemes for a 'mildly open world' feel.

[@hesoyam881]

Yeah dude and honestly the best standalone DW games to have come out. DW6 Empires was really a 10x better game than the regular DW6 and DW6XL

[@jay-2004]

Give this man a raise

[@shereenasal6668]

Kill lubu and marry diao chan

[@phiredeath8574]

I honestly thought you edited in the questionmarks over the tiger's heads as a joke before I realised it was part of the game.

[@SanarySeggnete]

most people would be shocked with their first hunting in DW 9 ... i killed a deer and the deer at his very right were : ? CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT YOUR FREAKING FRIEND DIED ??? lol

[@starduststriker8792]

the tiger is questioning why it's in dynasty warriors 9

[@freelanceart1019]

@@starduststriker8792 the Tiger is questioning why is he part of a Unity Engine asset flip.

[@aryaadityapurbadi5527]

The funny thing is this video came out the exact same time as Whatculture's video called: "Dynasty Warriors 9 Review - The Best Game In The Franchise (With A Few Flaws)". I am going to have to go with Jim's opinion, simply because he is a lifelong DW fan like myself and has most understandings to the franchise. Whatculture barely acknowledges DW games, so it's a bit difficult to take their opinion. Btw let me give you more salt Jim. Akihiro Suzuki, the producer of DW9 promised an original weapons DLC in the future.

[@NuclearWintr]

Arya Aditya Purbadi Who watches any WhatCulture channel besides the wrestling channel?

[@999monsterjam3]

NuclearWinter And even then, some people left that because all of the original personalities besides Simon are gone.

[@DotGamesLive]

I see WhatCultures title changed to "The best in the franchise?" XD

[@jamesblack893]

WhatCulture shills games because they don't want publishers to be cross with them and lose their free copies. This is nothing new. That said, I miss Blampied. WC just isn't the same without that smug Brit

[@kisame886]

GET THE FUCK OUT!!!! SERIOUSLY????

[@infernoflash]

This is one of the reasons i like Jim. He's never afraid to critisize a game, even if it is from one of his favorite franchises. There is always a strong sense of honesty when watching/reading his reviews. Do i always agree with him? God no, but i know he would respect my opinion, so i will always respect his. Keep up the good work!

[@bluespaceman7937]

I don't respect the fact he exaggerates though, even if some of his points are valid.

[@freelanceart1019]

@@bluespaceman7937 Jim Sterling overexaggerates Last of us 2.

[@tomiatoe]

what happened to this game? this is so sad. they are making a poor effort to revamp the game when quite frankly its not needed any drastic changes from DW3.

[@ThatCanadianGamer374]

"it was for realism" WHO THE SHIT PLAYS A MUSOU GAME FOR REALISM?

[@TheFlameSlayer]

its just a lie anyway .KOEI just wanted to be more lazy and have clones in the game. beacuse we all know fans, magic staves, boomerangs at that time peroid and peopel shooting fire, ice , poison and such from weapons while charging 1000 soliders on their own is realistic right?

[@chrisfu92]

The Game Slayer its very real i charged 100 guys today in the park.

[@Zejgar]

*cries on prom night*

[@pokemonmanic3595]

Zejgar are you an anime fan?

[@TheAxeLordOfFire]

Life’s good when your a TV that looks like an apple on prom night.

[@timothymckane6362]

Life's good when you make the bad guys cry that just want to die on prom night.

[@crypticcorvus2879]

I genuinely do not believe this game exists. Even by Koei standards, this has to be a joke. This game isn't real.

[@Spezifischable]

Watch Koei releasing shittons of dlc for it.

[@charleslindeman2169]

Woke up like an hour ago and watched this video, is this what a nightmare is?

[@Quyzbuk86]

Camey_Gamer Beta? You are too kind, this doesn't even look like an Alpha state to me.

[@bluespaceman7937]

I love exaggerations.

[@EldricVanguard]

and then you woke up to realize that it is real.

[@mattsilverio3254]

Dynsaty Warriors 3. Forever the best and memorable. Lol remember having Bodyguards? Remember when enemy soldiers pull combos on yo ass which actually did shit. And that it actually mattered never to go out alone Cause then your fked. Yeah. Loved that challenge. (I used to keep one my BodyGuards alive and watch them have a 1v1 against the other soldier lmao)

[@debbieparks356]

Was 3 the one with duels? I did the same thing watching bodyguards fight.

[@ultimateblade4127]

@@debbieparks356 4 had duels.

[@YohananYGO]

Remember archers ? They can one shot you in chaos

[@richardhands904]

Cant remember what it was called but the one where you tried to conquer china (i think it was called empires). Was really good fun.

[@ultimateblade4127]

@@richardhands904 All the Empires games were pretty great.

[@Shiirow]

Hunting tigers and even the tigers have question marks over their heads like "WTF am I even doing in this game?!"

[@DaddysFlipside]

Shiirow LMAO

[@D0NU75]

in a world where skyrim has been released twice and for many platforms, we have *this*

[@Safersephiroth777]

You did that in DW 8 Empires too.

[@thefool8224]

a certain black tiger would fit perfectly in this game

[@EvanCWaters]

I briefly thought the question mark was something Jim put in for comic effect.

[@LHudson]

OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO THE BEAUTY OF ZHANG HE!???

[@007kingifrit]

well it looks like they knocked him off a bridge

[@Sacrilege83]

007 you are thinking of Zhang Fei.

[@Tobascodagama]

Successfully defeated Tiger, a powerful enemy.

[@tenyokensekia8088]

Oh yeah, they really show just how powerful the legendary tiger is by it standing there doing jack. While actively being shot at no less.

[@panzersnapdragon3087]

Tiger, a powerful enemy, is no longer nearby!

[@SmaMan]

Tiger, a powerful enemy, is half clipped into the side of a mountain and cannot run after you since it's stuck.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

The DW games need to bring back tougher soldiers, and player body guards, I missed feeling like I was in an actual battle just with god tier powers, rather than being a solo god playing an arcade game.

[@deale-]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJWzh4yvfpeNgdU this a dw8 gameplay of what u described more or less. It didn’t feel like a real battle when I was playing it per se but it did feel fun af “god tier powers with tough soldiers.” Dw games just gotta work on more defensive options (Invincibility frames) and fun enemy design

[@anghbalahr2971]

To be frank, Jim. If you wouldn´t have showed the name of this game in the title, I would´ve assumed that this game was another shitty asset flip. Just look at the battle-effects and the light on the character while mounted. The "open world" has less in it than Rust and there is no mob to pummel through....that´s like Borderlands without guns...an abomination.

[@skawt24]

Man that horse movement was a joke as well.

[@gozzilla177]

Don't be Frank be someone cool like Tom or Jones

[@SmaMan]

I think that one Steam Greenlight chariot racing game had better cape physics than the rapidly repeating ripple seen at various places, like 12:58.

[@deadbaker4937]

wtf he didn't compare the 2 as they are, he said if borderlands had no guns that it would be the same as this crap. lol

[@alphabulblax1649]

Angh balahr Oh my god, I thought the same thing at first. I thought some guy on Steam just decided to steal the Dynasty Warriors name and characters and plopped them in some barren fantasy map.

[@RoverStorm]

as someone who hasn't seen this game series before, I can tell this is bad by the series' standards. If you're going to have a huge open world for an action packed game, shouldn't it be carpeted with actual thousands of soldiers, realistic troop movement, and strategy? Not just a boss on a bridge all by itself, or a random garrison where the troops run away the second an assassin kills the leader?

[@tenyokensekia8088]

Thats what I was thinking! If you're gonna justify having a huge map in a series known for hundreds of soldiers to mow down, why are they not everywhere?! It makes no sense! They could have use the Open world to make it feel far larger scale! But no, they didn't bother.

[@FunkyProletariat]

You should play them. samurai warriors 4 is the best of the newer warriors games in my opinion they also remastered warriors orochi for ps4 as well which is good.

[@joeschmoe2843]

I felt the same way playing Metal Gear 5: She breathes through her skin.

[@cardinalwiggles]

To be fair, Jim said in the video that the boss on the bridge was meant to be a specific fight where there was no other troops around. but the other points absolutely agree

[@matthewmendoza3109]

This is a very long reply, so read in in its entirety otherwise you might think I'm defending some of the flaws in this game (which there are admittedly quite a few) when I'm not. I'm critiquing it compared to the other games in the series, and explaining why _some_ of the hate surrounding 9 is based upon faulty reasoning. This game is worthy of criticism, but yours is objectively wrong. The total army of Wei at any given point (the largest of the 3 kingdoms) was only ever around 120,000+ at its height of power. I wouldn't expect 1000's of troops in a given area, thats not how war is fought, most battles would have been skirmishes between a couple hundred or less troops at a time, assigned to their commanding officer. The size of platoons that you encounter are actually much more realistic than people are giving credit for. (and larger anyways than most random groups of enemies you'd find in any other of the warriors games, barring orochi 3 and certain parts of DW 8). Large battles didn't happen too often because armies would have to cover a large amount of ground and have all of their lands and supply routes well fortified. When you kill all of the commanding officers in an area, the moral of the enemy foot soldiers plummets and they run away in panic. That is actually a rather decent mechanic, it's just a little jarring due to the execution in 9. This game got the large scale battlefield combat right, you advance with your armies taking objectives and garrisons. Your armies have supply routes along roads (this is 200 a.d. Common roads and footpaths were where many skirmishes would have taken place) and they advance forward into a front where they meet enemy armies. You can capture points along roads and advance your army, but because this is dynasty warriors, you know, the 1vs1000 hack and slash formula, you don't have to if you don't choose to, just like beating officers in every other dynasty warriors game. You can run straight into the main enemy, like every dynasty warriors game before it, but your army will not follow if they are blocked by miles of enemy encampments that you didn't bother to help them clear (which they can on their own, the battlefield is actually a living one. You can watch troops get deployed and follow them all the way to the front lines). On higher difficulties, just like in every other dynasty warriors game before it (besides 1. A lot of people forget just how different this series is from its origin), your allies lose moral rather quickly, and enemies gain moral quickly, which also makes them more aggressive. In the open battlefield, this translates to enemies pushing your allies back and taking over large swaths of territory. The grappling hook gives you mobility that you can use for whatever purpose that may be, rushing an enemy general, or using the high ground to snipe high value targets. It is definitely not realistic, but it allows the player so many more options, including bum rushing. Allow me to explain something here, this game is flawed, in some areas rather heavily (like voice acting, frame rate issues, and animal ai), but its no more flawed than any other dynasty warriors game before it. This game has added a lot of new to a franchise that is usually the same cookie-cutter formula. It's nothing spectacular by any means, but the mechanics they have introduced have a lot of untapped potential. I think people are quick to compare this game to Nier, or Skyrim, or what have you, but the Warriors franchise never has been that type of breathtaking revolutionary game, thus it would be better to compare this game to its predecessors in order to determine whether or not its a step in the right direction for the series as a whole. I totally understand somebody not liking this game, there are many much better games out there right now, but I fully believe that it is a worthy entry to the series and if the game is like the jump from 1 to 2, and then the far superior 3, where they began to perfect the old dynasty warriors system, then 10 will really be a game to look forward to. This game introduced a lot to build off of, effectively paving the way for the truly well executed next gen warriors games. 9 is very flawed in execution, but its potential and overall innovation should not be overlooked.

[@starwolf7365]

Wow... They really did kill this game. Never was a fan but I understood why people enjoyed the massive hack and slash levels with all the awesome characters.

[@chrisfu92]

Michael Cartwright thank u

[@alkinine1]

6:15 'You might be wondering about the copyright sign in the corner there. Techmo Koei for some reason are proud of what they've done...' (I literally spat my coffee)

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

You can tell Jim's really affected by this one real deep. Real deep.

[@BowserStrange]

You can?

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

His tone is more audibly shaken, and his words sound more disheartend than normal. This is a series he held close. Dynasty Warriors had meant something to him. And this happened.

[@dimitrikvasha7021]

And clearly he didn't even try to give it a chance. Thats what happens when you go into a game with the most unrealistic expectations known to mankind. And people seem to get off on him complaining about the most obvious issues this game has. I've seen enough of these one sided, biased reviews on steam already lol

[@Sakisasvictorianmask]

So...he shouldn't complain about obvious issues then? What? "Most unrealisti expectations" is probably quite subjective, but it's his right to have some expectations when the series is bringing out its ninth main installement. Would you like to elaborate what you mean by "biased" reviews?

[@hermit_36]

Dimitri Kvasha You say he doesn't give the game a chance and yet he is playing it, giving it a chance. Hypocrite.

[@yuurou7927]

I really hate what they did with the weapon variety. This is Dynasty warriors, fuck realism, embrace creativity. I'm Chinese and I know the Three Kingdoms to a tee, I don't need historically accurate things in a Dynasty Warriors game.

[@JimSterling]

Historical accuracy, they say. I wonder how they explained taking longbows away from characters like Zhu Ran, then.

[@VKnoEijisou]

Not just that but it’s not exactly like the combat and the killing of 1000 enemies at once is “historically accurate”, it’s a poor excuse on their part.

[@Based_Witch_Hunter]

A romanticisation based on a romanticisation but, but muh historical accuracy.

[@haven4304]

Yes, if i want a historically accurate Three Kingdoms game, i'm gonna play Romance of the Three Kingdoms, not Dynasty Warrios

[@Barnesofthenorth]

Especially when Romance of the 3 Kingdoms is fiction itself, yes based on true events but no most of the characters didn't get heroic deaths, most of them died in pretty normal ways and horrible things happened to them (except Zhao Yun who I think died of old age in the books cos he's a badass). We play Dynasty warriors for entertainment, so frankly I'd prefer if you took it into a weird direction like the 3 kingdoms are teleported to a fantasy world and need to group together to fight the monsters, build a kingdom THEN fight between the 3 of them for it. You know something batshit crazy.

[@Kiladahut]

Who asked for this? Anyone who's played a DW game knows how barebones and janky the engine is, and how well that said engine would work open world. I love me some DW but all I asked for was a new couch and maybe a carpet change. NOT A ROCKFARM IN CHINA!.

[@KonradCurves]

Kief Andrews Because this one isn't even trying. There's only so much you can not do and get away with. When 9 has half the content of 8 that's just bad

[@chrisfu92]

Swolo Ren lol

[@JosephBWG13]

Was Zhang He your favorite? He is my favorite Wei warrior but the fact that he dont have his claws anymore pisses me off. And Lu Bu sounds weird as hell too.

[@jevil1371]

Let's just say it's just. Jim favors Zhang He because of the Claws (OP Moveset)

[@gameguy1337]

This is a video made by a man broken by grief

[@angrytoast1497]

What happened to the fucking *colors* ?

[@Szadek23]

Not realistic enough, I guess.

[@AnCoolUsername]

Western people like brown open world games.

[@somethingboss]

Yeah, I only dress in shit brown, puke baige and snot green... Best combo in anything.

[@admiralamel9563]

*cough* ReShade *cough*

[@kosmosyche]

PS2 engine?

[@ghostmutton]

Warframe is more of a Dynasty Warriors game than this.

[@andr0zzsenpai]

I love the Warriors games but Warframe it's boring af.

[@tenyokensekia8088]

Thats actually sadly true from what I've seen. Great for Warframe fans, but at the expense of DW fans.

[@UnknownSquid]

@Tenyoken Wait what? Warframe is nothing like this. The hell are you talking about? Ghost Mutton was saying that Warframe itself is closer to an actual dynasty Warriors game than this crap. This is just awful.

[@DashieNegan41]

Ghost Mutton Warfame has nothing to do with DW

[@tenyokensekia8088]

I know, I just mean that in the sense they are both about mowing down countless bad guys.

[@cameronpeterson6734]

What I hate about modern DW games is that the AI soldiers are just paper now where you can cut through hundreds so easily. At least the soldiers stood a chance in old DW and you weren't fucking overpowered from the very start

[@Bluecrimson217]

Remember when killing 1000 enemies used to feel like it meant something?

[@Chris.Thanopoulos]

oldest versions...you kill 2.000 without anyone hit you...nice gameplay..thats the different about dw9 and the other dws...every dynasty warriors after 2 or 3 weeks or one month is just so fcking boring..you havent something to do...1 month max end game..dw 9 just keep you..i hate this fcking 13 years old judges !!!!! they dont understand..the years changes,the games too..if you dont like the new versions dont give a cancer to the comments..just play the oldes versions..ppl scared with something new...dw 1-8 2 buttons game killing everything without anyone touch you..really reallistic..graphics too..come on guys wake upsame gameplay in every game of the series..you should go back and play super mario or pac man...sorry for my bad english..i wish you understand what i want to say....

[@ultimateblade4127]

In DW4 and DW5, even grunts could knock the shit out of you. They did team coordination shit, too.

[@tzitzitzitzi1584]

Christos thano Βρε μαλακα, μην κάνεις σαν γκόμενα που της έθιξαν το αγόρι της. Δεν είναι κακό να δίνεις feedback. Τα λεφτά μας δίνουμε και περιμένουμε αποτέλεσμα. Έχει δίκιο ο τυπάς. Δεν υπάρχει δυσκολία. Και τι πάει να πει άμα δεν σ'αρέσει πάνε παίξε τα παλιά. Δηλαδή να μην έχουμε απαιτήσεις από ένα franchise που το στηρίζουμε χρόνια? Το παιχνίδι βγήκε μισό στην αγορά λόγο χρονικών ορίων. Χάθηκαν τα καλά σημεία του παιχνιδιού ή θα προστεθούν αργότερα σε DLC που κανονικά θα έπρεπε ναναι από την βασική έκδοση. Δεν έχεις ιδέα για τι μιλάς και λες και μαλακιες από πάνω. Άνετα ούτε τα 18 δεν έχεις κλείσει.

[@Kingtaco86]

@@Chris.Thanopoulos no you're a loser. Grow up baby nutz

[@Phoneybeetlemaniacxs]

Why I do I smell an early contender for shittest game of 2018

[@alritedave]

Phoneybeetlemaniacxs That smell is just Jim’s wrestling outfit after he’s worn it.

[@SemiIocon]

I feel sorry for you, I know that you like the franchise. It's always sad when a company fucks up your fav.

[@KeyBladeMaster-Dan]

I know right the way Jim feels here is how I feel about Dissidia NT

[@KeyBladeMaster-Dan]

I'm gutted the Dissidias are 2 of my all time favs but NT is extremely restrictive and dumbed down compared to the originals and there's barely any single player content instead of Dissidia fans NT was basically entirely catered towards Esports bullshit and completely lost itself as a result :(

[@icheatinexam5606]

YesteryearsGamer Not to mention that Dissidia NT is developed by Team Ninja which is a team from Koei Tecmo. So yeah,Koei has been making underwhelming games lately.

[@jcardboard]

The Tigers look straight out of life of black tiger. Dear God.

[@AmazinglyAwkward]

jcardboard I saw them and let out an audible "my God". I've only played one Warriors game and see the appeal despite only playing that one game but fuck me this is just objectively bad

[@SmaMan]

The female tiger finally gave birth to a baby. It's good to find the baby is not a powerful enemy like me.

[@DWAC]

It all makes sense now

[@ladiesmanincredibledjssj5155]

Dynasty Warriors 3 is a masterpiece. I miss that game..😞

[@dearestterror5234]

Had the best soundtrack

[@mightylubu1826]

Not a master piece but very, very good. DW4 was better in just about every way including voice acting.

[@fredmad4988]

Im still playing 2, sometimes the simplistic gameplay is still fun.

[@agungcp675]

Why not dw8? The same genre the most complete

[@magnuscritikaleak5045]

@@agungcp675 the reason is the graphics and the shitload of DLCs. HOWEVER, Dw8 PC version supports MODS amazing mods that spices up the flow of the game same with DW3 & 4.

[@viaxon6]

"its like a sex with me- a long time of waiting for nothing to happen"

[@Unknownost]

Wait a sec did you just effortlessly kill Lu Bu that easily? Holy... even in very low difficulty he was supposed to be a huge challenge first time through.

[@ChronoTriggerHappy]

he spawned his own meme, DO NOT PURSUE LU BU! in the words of some famous internet fuck ups WHA HAPPUN?

[@Unethical.FandubsGames]

Yeah... DSP did not heed the words of Master CaoCao.

[@otakon17]

...what did they DO to the formula?! Dear GOD go back dammit, GO BACK! I WANT TO PURSUE LU BU!

[@shughan666]

otakon17 Tecmo-Koei (as Norman Osborne): ......back to formula?! *kills otakon17*

[@aivreescend7945]

Or scared shirtless when he came like fckin storm slashing people like weed

[@Drakulas77]

I truly am the lamest game of the Three Kingdoms!

[@Shiirow]

Tecmo was secretly bought out by Ubisoft

[@sackboy5055]

nah, Ubisoft at least looks nice

[@RNvidcast]

I keep coming back to this video. Something about how FURIOUS Jim is about this game that makes it so entertaining. Sorry Jim, hope 10 is better for you!

[@SSGoatanks]

Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to ask for DW 4+5 remaster on new gaming systems. I actually miss the stab moves and parry mechanics from DW4 - as well as the DW5 personalized stories and rage moves ❤‍🔥

[@CrossfacePanda]

Wow... They managed to make the Hulao Gate mission bland and boring, not just visually, but in execution as well. How do you even manage that!?

[@nakalegend]

Surely it's impossible to make fighting lu bu boring but the commander fights look terrible here

[@JOKER27667]

I remember if you see a commander like lu bu you run beacuse they do half of your hp in one hit and you do litle to no damage until you actualy do the battle like killing a commander or trying to stop the enemy plan to invade ypur castle and abushes.

[@andrewlowe3273]

So, i never played a dynasty warriors game. What's so special about Hulao Gate?

[@ConsciousnessInc]

tbf dw8xl had mega bland Lu Bu fights - even on chaos/insanity modes he'd never even take a swing at you, just stood their in blockmode and weathered the thousand hits to his back.

[@MJSpiderman7116]

In all fairness, as bland as this level and the game in general seem to be, the whole “rush to the end and kill the general to end the level” bit has always been possible in these games. Occasionally a mission or two would stop that, but like 9 it usually didn’t matter as long as your general was still alive.

[@PaulFarrerMusic]

Dynasty Warriors 4 smashes the absolute shit out of this, and they are 15 years apart! Dynasty Creed 9: The Phantom Fuck-nuggets

[@KantaCrowe]

Paul Farrer Music I miss dynasty warriors 4 man. So much fun was had with that game

[@pyrojinn]

Dynasty Greed 9: because Assassin’s Creed actually has more substance than this.

[@AlbatrossCommando]

comparing this shit to assassins creed is a insult to assassins creed origins was actually all right

[@boxtank5288]

Paul Farrer Music DW8 kicks the absolute HELL out of this.

[@chaossmith3864]

I mean that might be true, but it sure looks like they were trying to make a Dynasty Warriors version of Origins to me. x3

[@WickedRibbon]

To quote a certain reviewer: "YA DONE FUCKED IT UP!!"

[@kirbyplier]

Nice one angry joe

[@Anthoni-pr6lx]

I second that. This is worse than Maddens "innovation"

[@Maikeru101]

WickedRibbon angry army forever!!!

[@ChibiFlonne]

our friendly neighbourhood reviewer Pissed Sanchez

[@Metalguitar200000]

Oh shit it's Annoyed Steve!

[@nickdaniels9485]

I just finished Lu Bu's campaign. Now I know the voice actors we're shit.... But the voice actor doing Lu Bu's voice apparently doesn't know the difference between the words "Mediate" and "meditate". Lu bu says "meditate" when the subtitles say mediate. I just laughed and stared at the screen for a bit thinking....wow.... They hired the shittiest voice actors for this game, just to save some extra money.

[@quietwolf3506]

Nick Daniels I put it in Japanese to avoid that lol

[@zhugeliang7832]

I agree about the voice actors. Wang Yi for example. Where's the voice that fits her?

[@LuminesBreezer--]

Both that and. .wtf with her new weapons?!

[@edgarallenpo8330]

What the fuck did they do to my boi Lu- Bu!?

[@krusher181]

How is that the “actors” fault? That’s the director and producer. They should have had them reread it... and not put the mistake in.

[@Borderlines]

I really hate how they gave Zhenji a whip. Where is her goddamn flute? There is no justification for a more realistic weapon set when they're still spewing thunder and fire and flowers when a musou attack is performed.

[@allanpartridge1264]

A2 sex appeal?

[@JimSterling]

Seriously, all the interesting weapons were ripped out. Whips, balls-and-chains, and throwing knives replace all the fun stuff. Because if there's one thing we wanted, it was for Zhang He to lose his claws for the second time in the series. Went over SO well last time.

[@hickknight]

AND we lost the back handed flame sword that let you cut down and dash through enemies as well as making a big fireball and blow g everything up... Why doesnt dw9 do that? Why?

[@l.madrid8815]

Jim Sterling but in any Dynasty Warriors game you can just skip straight to the boss and end the battle.... So I wouldn't count that as a flaw because you can choose to enjoy the battle or not

[@Droghan]

Wow this looks and feels like a cheap poor knock-off instead of a real DW game. That is sad.

[@IGVGameplayreviews]

It looks like Asset Flip Warriors 9

[@MegaCokamo]

IGV IOS and Android Gameplay Trailers lol

[@ElBribri]

The perfect example and reason why not all videogames HAVE to be "open world sandboxes" to be good, the beloved DW franchise victim of the modern day mainstream trerndies...

[@MuShinnen]

Idk. Honestly I think this was quite an admirable attempt at a game considering digital homicide didn't have the 10 million they originally wanted to produce this.

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

Shouldn't a lower budget be all the more reason to make a smaller world?

[@starduststriker8792]

@@CidGuerreiro1234 yeah but then people would notice that it's smaller. so you hide a small world inside of a bigger one.

[@geo7803]

*sees footage* where they fuck is everybody?! This is a Warriors game right? Any quarter acre not filled with enemies has shamed its family when not taken over.

[@9cookie2monster]

Dynasty Warriors 4 will forever be the best DW game

[@chrisfu92]

Midnight Gemini nah 5 and 3 will 4 good tooo just a sloppy fighting system the duel was cool though

[@AtlasGaveUp]

Strangely, this game made me appreciate them more. I went back and played 4 and playing 5 now off and on. They really are much more epic in feel. 4 made me feel more like I was in the story overall and I love the bodyguards and such. 5 has great individual stories and it goes down hill after that one. I actually did play from 2 (not that old, was a kid when I got a Ps2) and at that time; it was just blue, red, green, whatever kill stuff. I've watched it evolve into the most shallow series possible. Even RotK is garbage now. Koei no longer gives a fuck.

[@Razorgirl]

Amen! Though I prefer the Empires series, 4 has been the best in both vanilla and Empires for a long time.

[@aw_9461]

DW5 hands down is the best one especially when you get their 4th weapons!

[@morriganfan8238]

Coz Cosmogony nah 4 is way better.

[@snipebob2222]

Realism in a warriors game? Since when is shooting fireballs and ice musou attacks, that turns you hero into a one man killing machine Real?

[@Rebel19470]

Big Mek Git let's be honest here who can honestly pick out a video game that isn't realistic that isn't espn or another sports game he'll even UFC your characters are pretty much lesser gods. My guy gets hit upside his head that would kill any normal human being or if your lucky send you to the hospital for a weeks if your not in a coma or paralyzed. But nope their he is back training in less than a week with no bruises or medical bills. If a game was made for being entirely realistic nobody would buy it.

[@FlorenceFox]

Yeah what Dynasty Warriors fan is clamoring for realism?

[@TheFlameSlayer]

@Matt but thats Big Mek Gits point. its that KOEI said they removed the original weapons from DW8 because of realism. but if it was realism there would be no magic staves or fans or boomerangs (boomerangs are weapons yah but not in ancient china) . so either go realism route or just go back to having all the fun and unique weapons. If they wanted to remove some of the projectile weapons like bows to bring back the bow system from DW3-5 that would be fine but to remove claws and such just because its not realism but have those unrealistc elements that people can not do and such makes it kind of unrealistic to begin with surely?

[@Rebel19470]

The Game Slayer lol realism?! The very first stage is about a man who SUMMONS a phantom army and summons fire from the sky and little tornadoes in each section of a castle, I mean hell even his hair is unrealistic what hair gel do they have in 194 ad that holds that kind of volume, I mean come on. The double standard this company does for their game!

[@TheFlameSlayer]

@Matt ah i like the game not being realistc. it was their excuse of having realistic weapons being the reason they made cuts to stuff like the claws, the tonfa's , the floating swords and such but then adding magic staves and boomerangs or people casting fire and ice is what i was pointing out. DW8 was great i mean i even love the boat as a weapon its hilarious and another weapon that was really cool was yue ying's blade bow thing that was such a interesting weapon.

[@SuperSkyScorcher]

They need to go back and take a look at DW3, DW4 and DW5 and see what made them so great and loved by many. They need to take that and expand on it with more depth and detail. That's the DW game i want to play.

[@Prodigyxvoltage]

XgamerX have you played dw8? I felt like that was the game i was looking for, i grew up with 4. I think 8 is the best in the series.

[@SuperSkyScorcher]

I really dont care. I own all Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors and Warriors Orochi games. 8 was pretty good but i prefer 3-5 more

[@alvinolexy5181]

I agree, it feels so empty in 9, not like 5. It actually has a good concept for open world, but it just don't make sense since it feels so very small and not feels so challenging. I really hoped they learned from this to make another good sequel for the next sequel. 😢

[@LavaDilly]

Basically, they need to go back to the Bodyguard system that was progressive, attack, defense, life, and musou pick ups, item selection that boost your stats, not so many goddamn weapons, and maps filled with enemies.

[@cualquiercosaax]

+1

[@Nikke-nn5mn]

A game is either built around the open world or the open world is just an obnoxiously large hubworld

[@tomasxfranco]

Nikke 2800 *either

[@FreyjaYngling]

This is heartbreaking, the series has always been very niche, but I mean, this looks like it might even be worse than DW6, and for me 6 was the lowest point(I actually quit playing them after that travesty). All they had to do was make a DW game. If they wanted to innovate on combat, they could have just taken a page out of For Honor's book, that combat system would feel so natural in a DW title. Mow through the peons and engage the officers in an intense one on one melee with brutal finishing moves. How could Koei release such awesome gems like Nioh but continue to let down the fans of its flagship franchise, the people keeping them in business?

[@tenyokensekia8088]

Thats true, compared to Nioh this doesn't even seem like the same company made them! I wish they had some of the Nioh people work on this instead of this open world nonsense. Can you imagine how awesome it would be to have stances in DW?

[@zeroskaterz92]

Because it's a different developer. Omega Force ain't nothing like Team Ninja.

[@DeathBringer769]

Koei is just the publisher. A publisher can have many different developers working under them. DW and Nioh have completely different development studios.

[@FreyjaYngling]

I realize they're the publisher, but all of the studios under their "wing" could easily, and likely do, collaborate with one another, no? I think it's safe to say at this point, Koei and their dev teams see DW as nothing more than a throwaway cashcow title.

[@riemaennchen]

I like that one of the recommended videos on the side is "Dynasty Warriors 9 Review - The Best Game In The Franchise". I think I have to aggree with Jim on this one. I played almost every Dynasty Warriors game and Dynasty Warriors 9 (or Nein) just looks bad.

[@DotGamesLive]

I like that they've since changed the title to " the best game in the franchise *?* "

[@DestinyDragonGod]

I always find how I got into Dynasty Warriors extremely funny I played one of the Gundam Dynasty Warriors game and then I found out about this franchise. But I don't know this one just looks so Bland I've never played it of course but and just doesn't seem to have that effect that the other games did as cheesy or monotonous as they got they always had that feel of being a big affect and a huge battle this one just doesn't seem to have

[@sdmofficial1506]

He must have never played a good dynasty warrior game then

[@riemaennchen]

Melo Dotty Lmao they seriously added a "?" since I wrote this comment.

[@DotGamesLive]

It also seems to have (with a few flaws) after the ? now. Not sure if that last new bit was always there. And also he has a pinned comment about the criticism, and then suggests he was not paid for the review (but got a review copy and they get the ad revenue from the review...so...that's debatable)

[@Willy2537]

I dropped the DW series right after 5. Until now I only played only the Empires entry because it's the best I could get for a Three Kingdoms RPG game where I could play a game however I like, be a loyal soldier, a scheming strategist, a lone mercenary, or a tyrannical overlord. That's all I wanted out of Dynasty Warriors. No need for open-world at all. Also, I still remember the good old days in 5: Xtreme Legends's Destiny Mode, where I can start as a foot soldier and working my way up the ranks, even changing sides or pretend to if I wish it. God, I love that mode so much. That's how a DW RPG game should be. I'm still upset that it never shows up again in any game after that...

[@Kingzach259]

Same. I've put hours into that mode

[@ultimateblade4127]

Destiny Mode was wonderful and one of many reasons why DW5 is my favorite of the mainline DW games.

[@codysellers383]

I imagine 5 is where a lot of folks stopped. I tried 6 and hated it, did not play a DW game again until a few months ago with DW 8. I enjoyed 8 tbf. I dont intend to try 9 though

[@ultimateblade4127]

@@codysellers383 DW6 got really repetitive for me. I enjoyed the grab attacks and some of the Musous, but that's it.

[@MyCinnamonPhoe]

Sorry to hear that it sucks, Jim. :(

[@thechugg4372]

That Horse animation wtf

[@mehujmehuj2229]

Mart Mine hardly the worst thing compares to the rest...

[@JimSterling]

Only slightly better than the horse's AI.

[@TheDigimonXYZ]

Another game ruined with open world design.We need more linear and metroidvania design games.

[@therandomgamer000]

I don't understand what's wrong with open worlds, linear games don't leave as many possibilities to play.

[@OldMemesDieHard]

Dragon Slayer it’s overdone

[@TheDigimonXYZ]

There is nothing wrong properly implemeted open world mechanics, but usually we see poorly done job.

[@randomnerd23]

Dragon Slayer There isn't... when the gameplay suits it. Here the open world is just padding (there is nothing in the world) while it makes the individual battles smaller and more boring

[@seizurelater]

Dragon Slayer open world games stories tend to suck shit compared to linear games. The exceptions to this rule are games made by Rockstar, and there ain't any other developer like Rockstar.

[@LucianDevine]

That was the saddest and most depressing variation of Hu Lao Gate I've ever seen...

[@CrossfacePanda]

I just now realized the first battle in the video was at Changban Bridge. Holy shit... They reduced one of my favourites stages into a nothing event with barely any enemies at all! Like seriously, WHAT THE FUCK!? Where’s all the soldiers you have to plow through to get past the bridge? Where’s the winding road you have to escort Liu Bei through, past bow ambushes and generals? I mean sure, you’re on the opposite side of Liu Bei in Sterling’s example in the video, but still. Where’s YOUR fucking army and ambushes in that case!? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE!?!?

[@Moonhowler89]

Ah, the LEGENDARY battle where Zhang Fei stood alone and scared of 100.000 of Cao Cao troops by shouting at them that anyone who welcomed death could step forward. Nah, he got FUCKED by Zhang He (without claws) in a 1v1. Much better :)

[@bluespaceman7937]

Enemy placement and behavior can be addressed. I hope it will be.

[@howardlam6181]

Well, supposed, Zhang Fei stands there alone. But where are all the Wei soldiers?

[@arga7443]

i cant believe i can say something like , dw6 is better.

[@zacnyberg641]

First I actually liked six lol. Secondly using this map as a example for how bad this is makes me sad. I love this map like lu bu castle and the one with wu and shu team up to fight wei. Omg think about how awful that river fuck fest must be. This game makes me sad..

[@MajoradeMayhem]

Wow. I went in thinking there was maybe a love-it-or-hate-it new mechanic that had just really annoyed you... But it sounds like they truly borked everything! Fewer weapons? No good maps? Fired the old voice actors? Open world wasteland instead of actual territorial battles and strategy? No claws on Zhang He!? How did this disaster even get started? THEY ALREADY HAD IT RIGHT! All they had to do was steal Hyrule Warriors' "watch in awe as your generals actually obey a command occasionally!" combine it with DW8's weaponry and call it a day... How'd they go so, so wrong...

[@TheFlameSlayer]

all they had to do was expand on DW8 to be honest. by the end of DW8E they had everyone with a unique fighting style plus all the weapons that all the characters had lost (Crossbow, Nunchuka, Drill Lance, Rapier, Dao Blade, Scythe) . give us a dong zhuo mode (if they had kept the idea of hua xiong and dong bai along with zhang liao, lu bu, diao chan and jia xu also serving dong ) and add the most wanted yuan shu mode (for a completely diffrent story) and call it a day.

[@Kaikirith]

They could have expanded on the hypothetical route idea they did with 8 as well. Literally who asked for an open world Dynasty Warriors?

[@highlivin1917]

The Game Slayer People actually liked Yuan Shu? I only played DW8 empires and he seems like a elitist prick in that game lol the game doesn’t have story mode but his dialogue seemed too be the “Im a rich noble and better then you” Type of tone too him.

[@TheFlameSlayer]

@Jovon Pulido well here is some backstory about yuan shu how much of this is fiction from the book and how much of this is from historic i dont know but i know that things that happen in the novel also happen in the games usually so il add everything , first he is yuan shao's half brother. he participated in killing the eunuch's after he jin's assassination, dong zhuo was to give him a promotion but he feared dong zhuo and thus eventually joined hte battle against dong zhuo at hu lao gate. he does not send supplies to sun jian which causes some problems with them. sun jian after dong zhuo fled found the imperial seal. this is important for later. after that he goes to war with yuan shao and liu biao and allies with gongsun zan (so possibly a new battle in the series) , he fights cao cao and yuan shao but repeatedly loses. then sun ce goes to yuan shu and offers him the imperail seal in exchange for military units (this is one thing that helped wu gain a stronger military and eventually gain indipendence from yuan shu as i think they were working for him until that point) . after he gains the imperial seal he declares himself emperor and due to his lifestyle and attitude people start to rebel against him and many warlords around him go to war with him (like liu bei and even his allie lu bu) which eventually led to his demise. his elitist and his im a rich and better than you attitude suits him perfectly considering his title near the end of his reign and the fact hes a member of the yuan family. there is other stuff tha happens like when he and liu bei was fighting and lu bu uses his great archery to get them to form a truce and such but thats basically yuan shu. i think he became crazy popular after DW6 because he appeared as reandforcements usually bringing a massive army for the player to fight in most battles he appeared in. it may also be the amount of battles he participates in considering being an other force or maybe people would like to see a what if yuan shu did become emperor scenario im not sure. i do think he would make a interesting character though for the series.

[@highlivin1917]

The Game Slayer Oh you mean’t Shao’s younger brother. I don’t know any romance of the three kingdom’s lore so i didn’t know anything about him but in DW8 empires Yuan Shu is just a generic officer with no unique character model so he gets the same generic dialogue that the other generic officers get but the game did give him his own separate territory that was next too Yuan Shao’s land in one of the timeline eras you can choose too start in so i knew he mustove had bad blood with his family since he was the only Yuan officer in the game that wasen’t serving Yuan Shao but that was mostly a guess since the game i played doesn’t have a story mode so i don’t exactly know the relationships between everyone besides Sun Jian and his two sons i noticed after a certain point in the timeline Sun Ci takes Sun Jian’s place as leader of that dynasty and even later Sun Quan takes over so i figured Those mustove been his kids since they were his successors from the context clues. When i mentioned the snobby dialogue i was referring too Yuan Shao since he’s the only Yuan in dynasty warriors 8 empires too have a unique character model and weapon and get his own dialogue. Which comes off as a cocky and very proud of himself noblemen. Especially during the event battle that happens if you choose too work for Cao Cao. Throughout the fight Yuan Shao goes from over confident guy who thinks he’s the shit too being in denial and disbelief that Cao Cao was winning and constantly referring too how unstoppable the Yuan family is. Kinda gave me the feeling that the Yuan guys were very prominent in other dynasty warrior games as a big bad enemy or somthing along those lines.

[@paper-arrows4303]

Honestly, if Koei is satisfied with what they've completed in DW9, then they should just stop all together, because they've lost vision and have no sense in direction in how to keep up with modern gaming. Breaks my heart to, I've played every DW since DW2 when I was a kid and this will be the first one I will not touch, very disappointing.

[@MonkeyDLuffy60073]

Paper-Arrows That's what I wanna know, were they happy with it?

[@Weigazod]

I love Dynasty Warrior 4. Its Hard mode really gives you the feeling of fighting again an army of elite soldiers. The AIs are smart. They block, they jump, they use charge, they counter, they side step and backstab you. The captains even have musou move. To Dynasty Warrior 6 and later games, we are fighting against wood logs. With simply high stats, nothing else.

[@deale-]

Not true at all. Dw8 has the best gameplay and difficulty to date. You just gotta not break the game for yourself, bcs the game allows u to be op if I want to

[@Zizzily]

But are they Chains of Love, Jim? We need to know!

[@Reaverbot7]

Either way, they must be broken.

[@kisame886]

Just like the pc port, it's broken

[@Healermain15]

The sandboxes shall not be contained.

[@Daninoontje94]

Googline your name, makes me want to kink shame. Oh hey that rhymed.

[@Zizzily]

If you've Googled my name, why do you think I have shame?

[@ravenpoet9416]

I remember when Lu Bu used to be a nightmare. You WANTed to kill him, but most of the time he sent you packing. RIP DW imo

[@Bluemoondragonninja1]

Lu Bu used to be the Chuck Norris of the series now he's just some scrublord officer with hyper mode on

[@bluespaceman7937]

You can actually have a challenge fighting Lu Bu here though...if you play on hard or chaos. Which it looks like Jim never actually did.

[@thomasjenkins7506]

when it comes to lu bu, he's supposed to wipe the floor with you on easy, not just the hardest modes.

[@boxtank5288]

Thomas Jenkins yes this is true, fighting Lu I-am-so-strong-a-3v1-fight-is-considered-a-fair-fight Bu on any difficulty (even later on) is pretty much suicide (Only in Xiapi does he fold but that is forcibly nerfing him and he can STILL destroy you)

[@JimSterling]

"You can actually have a challenge fighting Lu Bu here though...if you play on hard or chaos. Which it looks like Jim never actually did." DW veteran tip: To a character with starter weapons, Lu Bu is a beast on normal mode... in any other game but this. This "hard mode" defense if some fucking weaksauce.

[@Zanzabari]

This has to be proof that every game doesn’t need to have a open world

[@Mr.Deko86]

Xtreme legends 8 has been my favorite graphically. Loved the "alien" style weapons in it.

[@QuestionYourWorld]

How do open worlds work again? Oh yeah, make sure the quests are 20 miles from each other. Implement a fast travel mechanic because we couldn't bother to fill the map with anything remotely interesting. Oh, don't forget to put the $60 price tag on it. After all, it's only the 9th installment. Doesn't have to be good. No expectations from our supportive customers. I literally thought this was a KickStarter fan-made template for an in-progress beta. I'm absolutely stunned. Destiny 2 had more effort put into it than this.

[@MeatyJesus]

20:05 "Successfully defeated Tiger, *a powerful enemy!* "

[@thornogrfic]

To be honest Koei have been ripping the piss for years now and I'm genuinely gutted they've ruined the series completely now.

[@thornogrfic]

I mean it genuinely looks like a Greenlight game tbh

[@JimSterling]

DW9 was my last chance for Tecmo Koei to get their shit together after the past few years of pisstaking. That's why #MondayIsComing

[@alritedave]

Bryanzero6 The only Tecmo Koei series I play is Toukiden. Even that recycles assets lol.

[@monsterfurby]

At least this one is actually them trying something new. Yeah, the actual degree to which they succeed is, eh, questionable at best, but as I noted elsewhere, I at least prefer this to doing to same game again for the nth time. Also, it looks better than all previous DW games on PC (not necessarily on consoles though, where they transitioned to the new engine two or three generations ago).

[@robbiirvine1038]

Blegh. Theory goes they stole assets from other games to make Nioh. Hence why Nioh has such a fuck? story and many main figureheads from Japanese history like a Samurai Warrior game. It would explain why Nioh is so much better than a lot of their other games of late (that, and Team Ninja.)

[@XxAiLovexX]

This honestly breaks my heart. I've loved every Dynasty Warriors game that I have played (1,2, and 3 are the only ones I haven't played). I was really looking forward to this. My birthday is in February and I had considered this sort of like a birthday present from the world lol, but after watching the gameplay like this, I can see it does not live up to the rest of the series. It seems like I'll be keeping my money then. What were they thinking while making this? It's so upsetting.

[@lord6617]

"Just Play Warframe" Now applies not only to Destiny 2, but Dynasty Warriors 9 as well!

[@elizabethhicks4181]

Alternatively: Just play Monster Hunter.

[@lord6617]

Not on PC

[@DetectiveMekova]

Not yet ;D At any rate just play Farcry 3, or play Dynasty Warriors 8: Legendary Edition. AKA One of the best.

[@andr0zzsenpai]

I love the Warriors franchise as a whole and I think Warframe it's boring af.

[@seppukuhappymeal6360]

Western games are shit honestly!

[@Exilninja]

Just installed the English version. Launched the game as Liu Bei. Heard him speak, cringed. Heard Guan Yu speak later, cringed harder, then I heard Zhang Fei.......NO. I can't even get past the introductory level for Shu because the voice acting is so bad, I can't even begin to describe how little Jim is exaggerating in this video when he says that Dynasty Warriors 3 has more inspired voice acting. I'm absolutely astonished. Seriously, go play the Shu story. See if you can get past how bad the three brother's English voice actors are. I guarantee you can't.

[@macdhomhnaill7721]

The Big Griffon You're right, I can't

[@maahrooreekee4295]

The Big Griffon I got thru it now i have cancer

[@TheRAMBO9191]

xD thats funny, but change it to japanese i think it cleans itself up?

[@BRBingeDrinker]

chinese men speaking japanese? does that really clean it up?

[@macdhomhnaill7721]

BRBingeDrinker There's a Chinese option as well. Though the comment was about the quality of the voice acting, not the language they were speaking. When he said "clean itself up" he was referring to the cringeworthy English voice acting, not the historical accuracy of the voice acting. Also, how is them speaking Japanese any worse than them speaking English? I'm sure that's not what you meant, but it was implied in your comment, intentional or not. Therefore, your comment doesn't make a lot of sense.

[@MatthewCobalt]

For those who still recalls the MGSV review, here is the difference: MGSV: -The open nature of the map made it very possible to play it in almost any play style. -There are advantages to exploring the world to do other side missions. -The map wasn't completely flat and barren, as some would say.

[@saltruist8751]

If you say so.

[@MatthewCobalt]

me Thank you. I appreciate that.

[@LawnHime]

John / DDFusion t

[@Gobidragon]

Koei Tecmo really should apologize for making this horrible, broken game. They simply can't ignore the abysmal reception this game has received. Fans are furious. I know several people who have said that they'll never buy another Koei Tecmo game ever again. Koei can't just ignore it all and pretend that the game, and the catastrophic backlash, never happened. Forget and move on is bad strategy here.

[@Indiana-r9b]

give people who bought this shit free upgrade to Xtreme legend is the only way to fix this.

[@susmodder531]

Lets be real those people will buy another koei tecmo game people always act like that when a mistake happens

[@Trakker1985]

Well you can always play Hyrule Warriors on Switch again when the re-release it with all the 3ds content added to it

[@Illmatic699]

In the old Dw I would have to recruit officer's manage morale avoid ambushes defeat enemy officers (who werent all easy) hit story points all to get to the main boss who was insanely strong. Lui bui (lu bu) was almost unbeatable. I cant believe you just climbed a wall walked through his army and killed him with no resistance.

[@TheFlameSlayer]

lol i remember once i had a really interesting thing happen in hu lao gate in DW3. i was going for the 1000 KOs to unlock lu bu and i walked past lu bu to get to the gates to farm at dong zhuos base. not long after i went back to kill some of the other officers at 1000 kos it said Sun Jian has killed Lu Bu. another great memory was when a generic Zhuge Jin survived 10 minutes longer than all of wu's playable officers in he fei castle and the dude was liturally just charging towards sima yi and was so pro till he got defeated lol while i was trying to protect sun quan. let me remind you this was on very hard mode too which that level is known for everyone dieing in seconds lol.

[@Exilninja]

The Game Slayer Dynasty Warriors 3, even with its legendary voice acting, had some of the best gameplay in the series. Minion troops were mini-officers on later stages, officers had limited troop numbers, morale MASSIVELY affected the battle, and the game managed to make battles seem huge by just having hundreds upon hundreds of soldiers scattered everywhere fighting each other. DW3 was excellent.

[@Exilninja]

The Game Slayer Also, the reason Sun Jian killed Lu Bu on your DW3 is because at 1000 KOs, all allied units immediately gain maximum morale, which makes them mega overpowered. Pro tip. ;)

[@TrentTheCreator]

This makes me sad its like they were just making this version for a "cash grab" totally ruined my childhood.

[@TheFlameSlayer]

like its sad what DW has become these days.DW3 was really one of the best they ever made along with DW4. DW8 was starting to get things right. DW5 was also a really good experience authough i guess i cant rate that one as high as i only grew up with empires for DW5. what made DW3 so great was everything The Big Griffon Listed but then Xtreme Legends oh my did that take it to a whole new level. Bodyguards leveling, Bodyguards having equips, Other offiers having an entire story mode EACH with really interesting what if battles like the nanman vs the yellow turbans or dong zhuo vs lu bu in chi bi. like i feel the best thing KOEI could do at this point is try and go thorugh all the really good things the series gave and merge them into one game. like everyone has been crying for the return of bodyguards and honestly they need to return even if you only have a few like 3 or 4 instead of 8 . because notice how as soon as bodyguards go the AI being able to actually fight and combo and were aggresive really died down after they were removed. that was because bodyguards were used to basically distract enemies and stop them from being able ot combo you and you could safely combo enemies. now DW3 had bodyguards that the player could choose what stats they could level and find weapons they could equip, DW4 allowed them to have elements and DW5 had 1 but the bodyguard i think you could do like dual musou with them and such? now what if they merged all those 3 bodyguard systems into 1? Leveling bodyguards with weapons that you can forge elements and abilities onto and being able to do a dual musou with a bodyguard with full musou bar too? it would be amazing. nowadays in a DW game difficulty is just meh. like i aint saying its hard infact i think its easier than ever before because what use to kill me alot of times was there was less health around. you took less damage on very hard compared to chaos mode in newer ones sure but the combos of the enmies and them being able to combo you made it difficult and fun that way. enemies have like 1 attack now and its so slow and lame getting hit by it is rare. i doubt we will ever see a DW like the older ones again in terms of these things but who knows maybe the backlash of something like this may show them the way?

[@gaynebula6439]

This is just... A shame. A fuck of a shame. Heartbroken, as a fellow DW fan. Ugh, and I was actually excited about this one...

[@edeyboy2931]

Yes, 'cause Dynasty Warriors has always been about realism. A more realistic title in the series is exactly what everyone wants. Nein!!

[@kazuya9288]

Why does this game look like some Dynasty Warriors clone made with asset flips.

[@freelanceart1019]

Made with Unity

[@magnuscritikaleak5045]

@@freelanceart1019 Definitely yes made of Unity Asset flip twin Brother!

[@SuperKittyPogoDance]

>The Worst Dynasty Warriors Game Ever Made God damn.... those are some strong words!

[@ItsHaoHere]

Holy shit that horse animation looks horrible... And some of those textures look like they came in from Dynasty 4.

[@sammygorilla8688]

DW1-Fun mortal kombat type game. DW2-Great Start To The Hack And Slash Genre DW3-Took 2 and improved on it making it better then before. DW4/XL-Really fun! Nostalgia! DW5/XL-My most played DW for a while DW6-It didn't feel that fun.missing weapons, Story etc. DW7/XL-Story was.......GLORIUUUUS. My first and 2nd to last empires game too. Enjoy the empires expansion. DW8/XL-Three Words:Main. Lu. Bu. Spin offs:Fire emblem warriors was lackluster, I reccomended hyrule Warriors as a spin off if you love warriors and Zelda. DW9-Open World My Ass. KOEI!!!! WHYYYY!!!!!!!

[@magnuscritikaleak5045]

Because of Honkai Impact 3rd.

[@demo-z2y]

For years people wanting DW to modernize itself, to get on with the times, but you know what? That would mean turning it into another genre! Yes, quality of life tweaks are always welcome, but DW is in its entirety an ARCADE game: There's a stage with fixed and optional objectives, the stylish character you choose with his/her special moves, you beat lots of grunts, THAT'S IT. Would you want Street Fighter to become an open world game? No, it's an arcade fighting game, a fixed stage, you and your opponent and that's enough. So, why the need to turn DW a 3D beat'em up wich even has food inside jars you break like Final Fight, into a open world game? it wont work, just as Pacman wouldn't work as an open world game. Of course, you can make a fun open world DW game, but you'll have to add all the things that make successful open world games fun, but then, would it still be DW, the arcade game?... I hope this is just a one off.

[@bluespaceman7937]

I would rather hope that the game itself doesn't bomb so that K-T does fix what needs to be fixed (ie: not everything, actually) and keeps what has potential. If we just go back to the same old with new nothing at all because of people like Jim, who have no patience for what the game was trying to do and can't even raise the difficulty level in-game, I would be sadder.

[@DarkDodgers]

YES! Recently I've been quite upset as a couple of KZbinrs apparently don't understand that Pokemon SHOULD stay somewhat similar to how it is now. They wanna completely "revolutionize" how those games are because of BOTW and Odyssey (Which aren't huge departures from their games at all...but I digress,) and fail to realize why they can't do that with a MAIN LINE POKEMON GAME!

[@deltaknight2764]

DEMO DANZA With the reviews and opinions people have on this game, Koei is most likely gonna completely skip the Xtreme Legends and Empires additions and just focus on turning DW9 into improved DW8, and try everything to COMPLETELY forget this game's "new game style." You know the phrase, "If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it"? Koei should keep this phrase TILL THE DAY IT DIES.

[@budgiecat9039]

Well Monster Hunter World turned out alright (though that too technically wasnt that far removed from the series, just with more organic environment and better graphics)

[@theCelticDragon1]

Just to be devils advocate Pacman did work as a platformer, the pacman world games are great. Dynasty and Samurai warriors do scratch the itch for a history nerd like me, usually in the encyclopedia section, but to get a greater sense 'of the period' should always be a goal..the gameplay however is what it is, the bread and butter of the franchise, if you alter or lessen that you're shooting yourself in the foot. I just wish we'd get a Kessen 4, i might be the only person in the world who might put Kessen 3 in their top 10 games of all time, i'm sure their philosophy for DW9 would work better as a Kessen game.

[@TheRuneTail]

“Realism”? There was a guy using ice and frost coming out of this sword.

[@obblivionkr]

"Realism" - and the clone weapons - It was just a shitty excuse to match the release date. They knew this game was going to be incomplete. It's what they do every fucking time - release an incomplete, shitty version of the game, sell some copies, use that money to complete the game - and sell it as an entirely separate game for $60. Then make about 3 variations of the same game with the same assets and take $60 for each of those too. I mean, fuck. The studio works on like 3-5 games at the same time. Fire emblem Warriors, Samurai Warriors, Berserk Warriors, Dynasty Warriors, Attack on Titan - I'd be surprised if the devs aren't completely burnt out. No wonder the quality suffers.

[@thegamer9302]

Realism should be not be in fucking dynasty warriors vocabulary. It should be replaced with Saturday night fever.

[@tjiiik]

The hunting mechanics look like they were made by the devs on Black Tiger.

[@darthva31]

Back here after one year and the updates Koei mde to the game up to this day. I'm just going to list down the pros first since it's a short list anyway. 1)I love the character designs. While there are some characters whose previous designs I preferred over, the current one still looks nice and I guess fits the era. 2) Chinese dubs. Nuff said. 3) Music is still rocking. 4) err... Props to Koei for trying something different with this entry. For the bad, 1) While I do give credit to Koei for trying an open world DW game after trying this with Toukiden 2, this game's open world felt like they're just ticking off a list. Granted, seeing landmarks like the Great Wall of China is great and fighting a ridiculously huge amount of soldiers is cool if the system allows it but the open world felt meh. "Didn't those open world games have watchtowers? Final Fantasy XV has fishing so let's do that. AC Origins had a Photo Mode (granted, that was added in a later update and I personally enjoy that mode) " Just by seeing how much Fast Travel spots they put in and me constantly using those spots shows how bland the open world IS. Still, with polish, the open world can work with an Empires game. 2) The story. One of the worst parts of the game. Props for Koei to create a story for all 90+ characters but the implementation is bad. As long as your character is involved, you need to play the same chapter over and over again without any form of alteration. This is the main reason I initially stopped playing last year. This got tedious, especially when so many characters are involved in the earlier chapters and you've to play through those chapters again. At least make missions exclusive to certain characters or skip the chapter if the character isn't that significantly involved. This is also the reason I use fast travel point A LOT. Yes, recent updates allows character change in the middle of the chapter but still figuring out how that works. And let's not talk about Xiahou Ji in this game. That's one chatacter I'm glad is locked in DLC. 3) The gameplay. Personally, it's decent. The addition of counter attack is nice too, especially when up against higher level enemies and in higher difficulty. But the rest is toned down compared to DW8. In that game, not only characters got an additional Musou attack but the ability to switch weapons on the go adds some form of strategy. And not to mention the clone weapons. At least apart from basic attacks, Koei tried giving each character with cloned weapons different attack animations. Here, it feels more mindless. And why give the bow, a unique weapon to Xiahou Yuan and a Wu officer I forgot the name of to everyone? The bow gameplay didn't mattered much too. 4) yeah, I almost never mentioned this because I never often played DW in English dub but it's bad and not in a cheesy corny way. 5) The DLCs. This is expected considering the ridiculous amount of cosmetic DLC in DOA5 but this is almost EA level. Taking away some unique weapons and selling them. And they aren't even new weapons. These are weapons used by established characters from previous games. While now, the game a little bit better than its condition when launched but I still recommend it under a HUGE discount. The game is still a guilty pleasure for me but 8 is better.

[@ReynoldHughes]

I asked if the game was "really that bad" on Twitter last night. I guess it is.

[@Okenpo]

Reynold Hughes I got it an hour ago and it's genuinely awful. I don't even want to play long enough to unlock my favorite characters. I just want to play DW8.

[@ReynoldHughes]

Calvin Pollard thanks for the reply. I guess I'll dig dw3 out of storage and play with that again!

[@lordythegreat88]

hope you can return mate

[@sorryyourenotawinner2506]

Koei can fix it with updates, HATER :)

[@zombathon3370]

King Neezy more like dlc

[@johnnysasaki]

the recast of english voices don't even make sense.It's because of that Union strike,but these Warriors games never used union for the voice-acting to begin with (case in point:Steve Blum voiced Sun Jian and Xiahou Yuan in DW4,5 and 6 and Keiji Maeda in Samurai Warriors 1 and quit all of those when he moved full time Union). some of the older VAs have been playing these characters as far as DW4(when they decided to use Los Angeles talent,people that we hear a lot in cartoons,anime and games,instead of recording the english voices in Japan like they did in DW2)like Kirk Thornton,Beau Billingslea,Doug Stone,Lex Lang,Richard Cansino and Wendee Lee. Koei-Tecmo simply decided it wasn't cheap enough now and hired a studio from god knows where,with a cast of VAs that apparently have never done voice-over before and don't have an expressive profile in their IMDB pages...

[@corgistaniel1150]

DynastZ, available now on the Unity asset store

[@GreatestPanther]

Damn, Pursuit at Chang Ban was one of the most epic battles of the series! - Block Cao Cao's forces at the bridge - Search for Liu Shan - Fight Xiahou Dun - Protect Liu Bei from all the Generals coming for his head. - Clearing the stage of ALL the red dots was damn satisfying

[@SSGoatanks]

Even the sieges from the PS2 DW3, 4, and 5 games were more fun and challenging than what you see at 6:36. This is so disappointing that they couldn't even add a row of archers on top of the walls to shoot down at you, set up ambushes in the forest, or made Liu Bei fight back and run away on horseback when he reached half health.

[@StylesisTNA]

So basically they took away the hack and slash, decent voice actors, and interesting cutscenes. Yeah fuck that.

[@clanwargods]

Dynasty Warriors 9: Barren Wasteland

[@sunopan]

i dont understand whats so hard about sticking true to classics with some gameplay and graphic improvements ? im sure it wont cost more than than throwing money to weird characters and some open world crap. now that i think about it, i spent tons of hours playing DW4. combat was so simple, square square, triangle triangle, musou. you can trigger a duel with lu bu, and spent at least an hour in a single stage because the maps were pretty large. and you wont be able to get 100 k.o in 5 minutes because it actually takes time to kill enemies and you dont have some wide ass attack radius. sure its 2018, gotta use dem engines etc, but cmon, forgetting your roots is just unacceptable.

[@monsterfurby]

They killed what was great about DW4 somewhere around DW6, though. That was a LONG time ago.