When to tier UP, and when NOT to tier up (Dynasty Trades and Strategy) - Dynasty Football 2023

In this video Shane and Scott talk about strategy when it comes to TIERING UP in dynasty fantasy football. A huge consideration is the format of the league, i.e. how shallow or deep it is, but league economy also comes into play. While tiering up from Tee Higgins or Devonta Smith to Garrett Wilson may not be the right move ON PAPER, your league economy may be such that you would then be able to take Garrett Wilson and package him for a QB upgrade. There are many variables and scenarios. Scott and Shane cover it all.
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Dynasty Trades In 5 is a dynasty trade show that focuses on dynasty fantasy football trade strategy, rookie draft pick values, individual player profiles, etc. For each player we discuss whether or not they are a dynasty trade target for 2022 and 2023, and if we lean sell vs. buy. We also get in depth on the 2022 rookie draft class, the 2023 rookie draft class, and dynasty rookie pick values in general. We don't do dynasty mock drafts yet, but perhaps we will in the future! There are many great resources available to the community, whether it be articles, dynasty trade calculators, trade finders, etc. We try to focus on short form content that is digestible and relevant. Thanks for watching Dynasty Trades In 5! Please share your comments and any recent dynasty fantasy football trades on these players. #dynastyfantasyfootball
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[@johnwatson1165]

What do you consider an impactful tier up in a 16 team start ten

[@rexfishy]

Need some advice. My team is pretty loaded so i was offered Justin jefferson for tyrek hill and stefon diggs. Its a 10 man league and we start 10. Should i do it? My team is Qb mahomes Rb derrick henry, dalvin cook, james cook, rasheen white, najee harris, aj dillion and josh jacobs Wr jamar chase, tyrek hill, stefon diggs, jerry jeudy, elijah moore and garret wilson Te kelce.

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

Nope I’m winning a title this year with that team. Keeping Diggs and Tyreek

[@rexfishy]

​@DynastyTradesIn5 thanks! The idea of teaming jefferson with chase was tempting but I was giving up alot of guaranteed points. Keep up the good content

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

@@rexfishy yeah if i could do something way below Diggs in the deal sure, but this is just too much

[@AS-et7yj]

How do you guys like Jamo + 25 1st and 2nd for devonta smith 3.01 in a contending team

[@AS-et7yj]

12 team start 11

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

@@AS-et7yj Too much of a tier down for me

[@joshdolphin4540]

10 team superflex start 10. 8 bench spots, 2 taxi, 4 ir. How much do you value depth vs just having young talent on your bench?

[@stevejerky1816]

12 team PPR SF ST9 rebuild with nothing beyond Allen/AR/Kyler, Breece/JT, Higgins/JSN/Flowers/Mingo/Jameson + 3 24 1st's --- QUESTION: tier down from Higgins to Dotson or Burks + FRAUD's 24 1st? Get a little greedier since ST9? Pass?

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

No!

[@stevejerky1816]

@@ShaneIsTheWorst ha thanks shane, went with superchat on this one. what i meant by nothing beyond is my entire bench is trashcan RB's. Curious, this a smash if i get Dotson + 24 1st + 25 1st, no?

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

@@stevejerky1816 it's definitely fair

[@AthleteCritique]

12 team SF start 8. In a league where we start a defense, how should they be valued? Does a higher end defense like Dallas truly hold any wil eight? Getting offered 2.08 and Dallas D for projected early 2024 2nd

[@oliverk9076]

This is the absolute best dynasty content in existence: no useless rankings, no hyping up random wr3’s who are garunteed to pop off this season, no 30 minute argument about who is better between the wr6 and wr7. So refreshing!

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Thank you, just talking about what we think matters

[@AndyMoss100]

Very league specific I traded Dj Moore & 1.07 NonSF Half Ppr For Tee Higgins and Im Very Happy About It

[@TheRoyalChief]

14 team start 10… should I move Drake London for Tyreek?

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

Team direction dependant

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

I'm more than okay with it

[@TheRoyalChief]

@@DynastyTradesIn5 thank you

[@TheRoyalChief]

@@ShaneIsTheWorst I appreciate you fam

[@dynastykoopa]

You dont know how much it soothes my brain that Manic and Chill are on the correct sides of the screen this week

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Did it for you dude

[@itsdreemy]

First off Love the content gentlemen found you guys on TikTok a while back and have been watching u guys since. 12 tm sf start 9 I have guys like DJ Moore & pollard but also those big names like Breece and Garrett. I guess my question is should I be trying to flip moore n pollard w an attached first (have 2 ‘24 1st) to get one of those bigger name guys like a CD/AMSB/AJ. Leagues pretty top heavy rn don’t know if the owners would be willing to move those guys. Have Fields&Stroud as well would love some any suggestions thanks!

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

Glad you found the channel, man! In a Start 9 yes packaging DJ Moore is a good move, but we’re not looking to move from Pollard in that format Is it Full PPR? 4pt or 6pt pass TD? Any TE premium?

[@itsdreemy]

Full PPR & 4 pt passing td and no TE premium didn’t mean to leave that out lol. RB room pretty solid Breece/Pollard/Pierce. WR room is eh with GW/DJ/QJ/Mooney (dj gettin traded to Chicago didn’t help lol) got Pickett n Levis as well but no one seems to want them including myself 😂😂

[@dragonbreath34]

Does tiering up in a start 14 league make sense if you’re tiering up at a premium position like QB? 12t SF PPR

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

Yeah, I try to focus on tiering up in ranges that matter. Elite QBs in a 14 TM SF matter

[@dragonbreath34]

@@DynastyTradesIn5 I ended up trading Bryce and Gibbs for Fields and a 24 2nd. A lot to pay, but I had a ton of assets in this draft

[@thayerprum7332]

12 Team Sf 0.5 PPR Start 10 My WR corps (I can start up to 5+SF) is Kupp, Metcalf, Godwin, Diontae, Ridley, Meyers, Metchie, Shaheed, Michael Wilson + trash. Nobody seems interested in Godwin, Diontae, and Ridley. With a WR room this deep, should I be trying to tier up or down from Metcalf? I have no 2024 1st or "extra assets" outside of WR and 2 2024 2nds but Im a strong contender. Not sure what move I should be making here.

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

It's .5 PPR, I'm guessing the Worp will show RBs will make your flexes more than WRs. Problem is you've built your entire WR room to fill flex spots. If you can pivot off any of your WR for an equivalent RB or draft picks I would consider it

[@lifes3ps]

SF 12T PPR 0.5 TEP (positionless, so wr=te=rb, no min positions besides qb): Scott i know youre low on jeudy. Certainly in win now mode (Kelce fell into my lap so a 2?! yr windoq): Jeudy+ 2 late 2s for Diggs? Jeudy and Russ clicked so hard last 5 games last year. Thanks! (and yea its that John from the roster review, thx again and thanks shane for making me draft cj stroud when i was considering jsn, qb room locked and loaded now: Josh Allen/Deshaun Watson/CJ Stroud)

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

I'd love to get Diggs for that price

[@lifes3ps]

Yeah I was excited to see the offer then saw how they each finished the season in opposite ways

[@tymo8219]

THIS IS THE BEST DYNASTY SHOW ON KZbin!!!

[@colincrandall8799]

Excellent communication. Similar to what Shane said in last nights live, I have some of these thoughts but can never articulate them. You guys improve on my thoughts/process 10 fold!

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Thanks dude!

[@chrispruitt9565]

Great video and info! I traded Davante Adams, Daniel Jones and a 2023 2nd round pick for Garrett Wilson - Standard 1 QB league. What do you think of this trade?

[@benjamingoldner4855]

Someone is offering me a 2024 first for amari Cooper straight up what do u think 8 team dynasty ppr with two qb and super flex and I traded my 24 first for Lawrence so I have no picks.

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

I'm taking that, I can't imagine you ever get another offer that good again.

[@EmersonDiaz93]

Haven’t even watched this yet but im pumped!!!

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Let's go

[@wolfguy211]

Adding a mid first to DK to get up to Chase? 12 tm start 10.

[@KS-qz3wr]

Smash

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Do it😈

[@sardonicgoat]

I’ve got Hurts and Diggs. I’m trying to trade Diggs and a 2nd for AJ Brown. Is that too much, too little?

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

It's probably an overpay but for the age discount it's fine

[@Anahola7]

Can we get this in podcast form? If you need help with that, I’d be more then happy.

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

[e-mail] , I’ve had a plan for this for a long time. No time. I’d welcome help 🔨

[@garrettsmith5732]

Sold Addison + my first for Amon-ra to go for the ship. Hopefully a late first

[@stanjco2190]

Sup guys. I got the 10 pick in my 12 Team Ppr Superflex dynasty. Starts 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 superflex. Who should I am for in the top 4-5 rounds?

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

pretty broad question here.

[@johnc6617]

Dynasty 10 team superflex Give: sam Howell, aj dillon, luke schoonmaker Get: derek carr, perine, cole kemet I have Watson Herbert Richardson at qb. I have javonte also. Te irv Smith, Otton, likely

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Fine with the deal, but what's the purpose of the deal.

[@johnc6617]

I ended up not taking deal. Trade dillon and two 2nd round picks for burks and two 3rd round picks

[@ryanc0017]

I absolutely love these shorter quick hitters, they’re so jam packed with great info! Im trying to tier up to Chase in a 12 TM st 9 PPR W/keepers. I have AJB, Lamb, Waddle, Olave and Aiyuk at WR but can only start 4 on a weekly basis. I’ve got a bunch of RB2s on my roster as well as 1.02 1.06 and 1.11. So I think I’ve got that excess Shane was talking about. Think Waddle/RB2 or Olave/1.06 gets it done?

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

No, I don't think that is enough unfortunately.

[@djnfbrhkelkondwvb6853]

I’m struggling to tier up in my home league run i have tons of assets 5 23 1sts, 4 24 firsts and some 2nds in each year as well but I was the worst team last year in no small part to injuries but still last. Naturally in a 10 man league there’s a couple owners who have checked out in the offseason but the rest of them just want to hold and seem to not be willing to move elite assets rn. Will our rookie draft in August and the season starting in September force the issue?

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

It should but if the league just doesn't value picks you just make the picks

[@nickbarbetta6940]

Barkley or Kenneth

[@notsurewhattoput5069]

This is for Shane...I traded Waddle and a 24 2nd for Olave and a 24 1st to a Waddle name lover

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Sweet jesus that's a smash! Great job

[@kcubillas]

If you don't use picks to tier up, what do you use them for?

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

You can use them to tier up to gain a positional advantage. You can also use them to replace production when injuries happen

[@evandeimling412]

I traded waddle and a mid 1st + 2nd for GWilson and mid 1st + 2nd lol.

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

Insert spiderman meme

[@morgatil]

12 Team Superflex. I was offered Hollywood Brown, 2025 1st and 2025 3rd for Tee Higgins. I'd appreciate any feedback. I am leaning towards the Hollywood side.

[@pacersfan550]

Hollywood. That's what this entire video was about

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

Format?

[@zachorphanos3697]

12 tm SF start 10 ppr, I have 7 1sts (2 guaranteed lottery picks), just accumulated them over time, tiering off of players, and trading players for 1sts. My starting 10 is QB: Hurts + Kyler RB:Dobbins + Perine WR: Hollywood, Pittman, Aiyuk, Mclaurin, dieontae, got myers on my bench TE:Engram. I need an alpha WR1 so far I've asked around the league for the top players, no ones willing to give up the alpha WR unless I overpay, should I overpay to get the WR1 for my team?

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

I'm good with your QB room. Really depends what an overpay is

[@zachorphanos3697]

@@DynastyTradesIn5 I offered 3 1sts for Jefferson the guy responded “🤣”, with chase I offered 3 1sts, he said no because he wants to keep chase, aj brown I said 2 firsts and a early 2nd, same thing no, I guess the overpay is anything more than I offered in these deals. My brother and I are both really into dynasty, he told me don’t offer anything more, he said if you offer more than you did, might as well just trade those picks for a qb better than Kyler, or try to tier up with Kyler and go try to get burrow/Allen maybe mahomes. Btw how I got my picks were these, -1.06 for the 1.10 + 24 1st -ARSB for 2 24 1sts and dobbins -Olave for Hollywood and 24 1st -Waddle for Pittman and a 1st -Swift for a first -My own 1st As soon as I listened to the destination devy podcast and heard Scott talk about tiering off of players I did the trades, when Scott said about waddle having to much name value and the fact that this is probably the most valuable he’ll ever get I traded him. With the tier offs the main thing I look at was their average pts, waddle averaged 15.15 Pittman 13.75, so for roughly a point I get a 1st

[@crockbo]

How you guys feel about me moving Higgins & Kirk for G. Wilson? Very shallow 10 team 1qb, start 7. Other WRs are Brown, Olave, E.Moore, R. Rice

[@BijanOrbinson17]

Thank you fellas! Amazing content as always

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Happy you enjoyed it

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

Hahaha your KZbin name is amazing 😂

[@TheWarInshore]

Hey love the channel! Not sure how you guys feel about this, but to preface I am in win now mode. 12 TM 0.5 PPR 1 QB start 9. I have Mahomes, JT, Gibbs, R. White, JJ, Cupp, Ridley, Dotson, Addison, Aiyuk, Mooney, Collins, E. Engram, Kmet… Traded Pickens and Etienne Got Kelce and Skyy. Wanted that stack how did I do?

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Amy premiums?

[@TheWarInshore]

@@ShaneIsTheWorst There are no premiums for TE…

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

@@TheWarInshore Hate giving up Etienne but can't be mad at getting Kelce, thumbs up

[@ivantorres9541]

trade mattison for brian robinson and a 2nd?

[@dynastynoob3030]

10tm St8 1QB Contender Flipped Kirk and a 24 1st for Tyreek.

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

I like it

[@jsapphire2551]

@dynastytradesin5 love the new strategy shorts. You guys are the best! 12tm 1qb .5ppr start 9. Give: Pickens, E. Moore, 24 2nd. Get: Adams. Is this the 3 for 1 you would do?

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Yes sir I'm all over this unless that firsts look 104 or earlier

[@jsapphire2551]

@ShaneIsTheWorst 24 2nd not first. In that case I assume you smash accept

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

@@jsapphire2551 oh hell yeah

[@ethanrice7528]

I’m now in a 10t st10 ppr 4pt pass td no tep league where I grabbed an orphan that had 1.01- so now I’ve got Fields, deshaun watson, breece hall, bijan, James cook, C watson, and QJ and nothing else of great value. Think I’d be at best middle of the road even if I tried to compete this year so I wanna push it one more year. Is dealing Bijan potentially my best move to gain more assets/longer term assets if I’m not going for it this year ? WR stacked team w Wilson and j Jeff is willing to talk to me ab deals for those 2 involving bijan

[@Drake23x23]

Iv been trying to trade Khalil Herbert and D'Onta Foreman.. what do you think I should as for back in return for them? Is there a RB out there that I could get? Any help is appreciated

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

These are the type of RBs I like to hold, their market value isn't usually great

[@Drake23x23]

@@ShaneIsTheWorst thx

[@duckiejay5839]

I noticed changing the league settings from 1 QB with Superflex, to "2 QB". It changed the WoRP Values drastically. I was considering most my league mates treat it as 2 QB so I was trying things out. Any thoughts?

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

If you missed it in the Live Stream, Scott addressed your question and wanted you to reach out to him on Twitter.

[@duckiejay5839]

@DynastyTradesIn5 thank you, I did see the stream. I don't have Twitter, unfortunately. I have the WoRP tool available to me and thought it was interesting that SF actually made QB value further separated from other positions than 2QB.

[@duckiejay5839]

@DynastyTradesIn5 I think I figured it out. Superflex is Compairing the AVG of top 10 QB vs. replacement. 2 QB is comparing AVG of top 20 QB vs replacement. However both replacement level are the same because my QB 11-20 are in the SF spot.. 2QB might be a more accurate portrayal IMO. Thanks again

[@jasonschrank7012]

in a 1 QB S8, would Jeudy, a projected late 24 first and QJ or Addison be an over pay for JJ or Chase? My WRs would be Lamb, Waddle, dionate, the non-selected QJ/Addison and whoever I traded for. Rbs - Bijan, achane, walker, roschon QB Fields, TE Njoku

[@pacersfan550]

No, pretty much always take the best asset in start 8

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Get that JJ

[@KamiSamuraiTV]

Would you tier down from Chase to Garrett Wilson and a mid 2024 1st?

[@DynastyTradesIn5]

Format?

[@dytn959]

12T SF Start 10. Traded 1.01 and 2.01 for Waddle and Etienne. Now have Mahomes, Watson, Etienne, Ceedee, Waddle, G. Wilson, Higgins, Pitts, 3 2024 1sts and some meh depth pieces like Jamo, E. Moore, Skyy Moore. Thoughts?

[@dytn959]

@@dynastydrizzy Maybe im just higher on Waddle than most, he's my wr6 overall for dynasty. I think of it as trading a late first startup (Bijan) and a ninth round startup pick (Kendre) for a mid second (Waddle) and a mid fourth (Etienne). Feel like thats pretty good value.

[@ShaneIsTheWorst]

Would have preferred Bijan