Dyson Sphere Program | RED CUBES - Starter Hack and Sustainable Design | Beginner Guide/Tutorial

DYSON SPHERE PROGRAM
Build the most efficient intergalactic factory in space simulation strategy
game Dyson Sphere Program! Harness the power of stars, collect resources,
plan and design production lines and develop your interstellar factory from
a small space workshop to a galaxy-wide industrial empire.
Like Factorio and Satisfactory combined :)
ABOUT THE GAME
Dyson Sphere Program is a sci-fi simulation game with space, adventure,
exploration and factory automation elements where you have to build your
own galactic industrial empire from scratch.
In the distant future, the power of science and technology has ushered a
new age to the human race. Space and time have become irrelevant thanks
to virtual reality. A new kind of supercomputer has been developed - a machine which superior artificial intelligence and computing capability will
push humanity even further. There is only one problem: there isn’t enough
energy in the whole planet to feed this machine.
You are a space engineer in charge of a project launched by the space alliance COSMO, tasked with a massive undertaking: constructing a Dyson
Sphere, a megastructure that would orbit around a star, harnessing all its
power and energy. Only a few decades ago it was considered a hypothetical,
impossible invention - but now it’s in your hands… if you can manage to
develop this space workshop in some galactic backwater into a galaxy-wide
industrial production empire!
ABOUT EARLY ACCESS
While the core mechanics of Dyson Sphere Program are ready, the game still
can grow and evolve a lot - and Early Access is just the perfect place for it to
reach its true potential. We believe that by letting players experience the
main content of Dyson Sphere Program and actively interacting with them
to collect their feedback will allow us to improve the game and make it
much better than it would be without this Early Access stage. Our plans are
for this EA stage to be about 1 year long. But that is not written in stone.
KEY FEATURES
◇ Build a galactic industrial empire from scratch: start with a small workshop and improve it until it spans the whole galaxy
◇ Develop your very own Dyson Sphere, a megastructure that orbits
around a star harnessing all its power and energy, from the first screw
to its completion
◇ Explore a vast universe procedurally generated with all kinds of celestial bodies: neutron stars, white dwarfs, red giants…
◇ Gather resources in planets of all types: ocean, lava, desert, frozen,
gaseous planets…
◇ Research new technologies to improve your factories… and discover
the secrets of the universe
◇ Build mechas to fly, sail or jump through outer space and alien planets
◇ Transport materials across the galaxy to your facilities: thousands of
transport ships will flow endlessly to your factories and back!
◇ Design the most efficient automated factory and production line
◇ Customize your factory and Dyson Sphere to make it unique
◇ Design a balanced power network, producing energy in all kinds of
power plants like wind turbines, artificial stars… through conveyor
belts, and you’ve got technology to help your buildings fit the grid automatically during the construction process. You’ve got the best tools
COSMO can afford to build a massive-scale automated production line
- the most efficient one ever seen in the universe!
SCHEDULE:
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#DysonSphere #Factorio #Satisfactory

[@jamiepaugh9700]

I've wasted a solid two hours trying to optimize my red cubing. THIS just made my day!

[@bpdubb]

Just 2 hours? I’m damn near 50 hours in and I’m still trying. lol

[@kane5618]

@@bpdubb similar case for me 😂

[@deksroning125]

@@bpdubb I know. The game is not very good at explaining things... I had to spend hours looking up videos on how to get basic ingots. :D

[@НикитаИванов-ф4ъ5н]

@@bpdubb just here to say that i can feel the pain, im still struggling

[@harbhub]

@@deksroning125Agreed. I'm here two years later trying it out for the first time. It isn't an intuitive game, unfortunately. However, once you learn (via videos and asking questions in the Discord), then it all starts to make sense!

[@smurvje]

Nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution :)

[@T3hIluvatar]

My therapist: Technical debt isn't real, it can't hurt you Technical debt:

[@NoobMicesters]

It gives out a mild amount more hydrogen than graphite. You can see at 16:36 the belt on the left of the screen give 2 hydrogen to 1 graphite. I rebuilt this in my world and it does sadly very very slowly overflow your system. I ran into this same issue and short of burning it i dont know what to do :/ Edit: so i did some further testing on this design (i love it by the way so compact) and you need to siphon off 1 hydrogen per second (so a mk2 sorter after the sorter/filter) that travels 3 grid units) the the system perfectly stays levels on both graphite and hydrogen. And you can burn or use this excess 1 hydrogen per sec wherever you wish

[@Moerdock]

I Think the way he does it isnt the right way...how about just inputing the refined oil and jumpstarting the prozess...after that selffeeding the hydrogen with a sorter putting it out and another sorter behind that putting it in again...then the system will output exactly 1 graphite and 1 hydrogen and you can deal with the hydrogen from the first cracking process eintirely seprate to the second cracking prozess which will never overfeed or starve itself this way...thats what i am doing in my world an is imho the only right way to do it...excess hydrogen then gets burned or further processed into deuterium...which has its own use later on... just my two cents tho...

[@yuidesu5625]

@@Moerdock Hi, can you explain it again, but this time assume I'm 5yo and stupid... How do I burn the excess hydrogen without burning everything?

[@manoflead643]

@@yuidesu5625 priority splitter on hydrogen output, overflow goes into a consumer

[@yuidesu5625]

@@manoflead643 Thank you

[@Moerdock]

@@manoflead643 That

[@JoaquinKite]

I'm about to start doing yellow science and i'm getting really mad about everything

[@roquepardal]

Every new hack you post is a new (and improved) game I start from scratch lol Awesome work, man. Keep it coming! (looking forward to the Yellow Matrix design!)

[@SteveWhipp]

That is the most efficient setup I've seen. I especially like the use of splitters.

[@stefanbergmann1884]

@Nilaus: Did you know that if you stack storages, you can have inserters IN/OUT on the different levels...

[@Nilaus]

only so high as the power poles reach ;)

[@stephennobles3150]

That is beautiful, Nilaus! You still have 50% excess hydrogen in your output. It will jam up eventually. I solved it with an extra splitter on the output H line, removing 1/3 of the Hydrogen. That goes into fuel cells at first, and later into whatever. I allow only a single stack of graphite in my buffer-- I want production to stop when red cubes are jammed up. That stack is also helpful after red cubes have been idle for a while; if graphite output is jammed, just pick it up.

[@vtrista2165]

Yeah to add to it: The reason why Hydrogen is in excess is because you are still making 1 Hydrogen every 4 seconds from the first process, producing a total of 3 Hydrogen and 2 En. Graphite from a single production set of 3 Refineries.

[@fnord4meldawn]

Great tutorial! My only comment is that this setup produces .25 Energetic Carbon per second deficit. You will need to empty your hydrogen container eventually or inject 1 Energetic Carbon every ~6 seconds. I fixed the offset by utilizing a splitter with priorities set and feed the Energetic Carbon line from a coal source.

[@Loganpvp]

I am thoroughly impressed with this setup. I would have never thought to use separators like this. It makes farming red cubes so much easier. Thank you!!

[@klydon1291]

Well, this came along at a great time. I have had issues with my red science build locking up using the priority splitter method Nilaus did in a earlier video and have to "clean out the excess" every so often. The other issue is it won't produce red cubes at a steady state. I am absolutely going to give this a try to see how it goes, but I also wonder about the extra H as well as I think that also breaks the splitting method as well without some sort of storage tank for the extra H that will have to be dealt with later. (Right now, I am working on fuel cells to use the excess, but have just gotten a titanium build going on the lava planet, so it isn't up and running yet). Either way, great work as usual Nilaus. Very clean and useful. Looking forward to more DSP content. I think this game is right in your wheelhouse and you have knocked it out of the park with your content.

[@KjKase]

I tried this but my plasma refining refineries eventually fill up with refined oil and stop working >.

[@FireHammer-oc5wc]

I realize this has been out for quite a while now but I'd like to make a comment none-the-less :P First off this is a fantastic self feeding loop that is quite helpful in Red Cube making! THANK YOU SO MUCH! I have set this up for myself and spent about 3 hours trying to get it to stop stalling out! I finally figured out what was happening ... I did not notice if you did this in your video nor did I hear you say anything about it ... But the splitters between each set of two need to be sorting HYDROGEN only or the whole thing randomly breaks down because it randomly sends graphite and oil across if you do not specify! Thank you so much for the awesome work KEEP IT UP!

[@user-a5742muf7u]

So x-ray cracking produce 1 hydrogen in total (3 produced minus 2 consumed) and 1 graphite, but where goes one extra hydrogen from plasma refining? Doesn't seems like a perfect ratio.

[@DavidGuild]

Yeah, there's an extra from refining. My solution was to grab some graphite from coal to balance. Long term I think you get rid of cracking and make red just from the extra plus coal, because you need tons of oil for late game stuff.

[@Nilaus]

it just needs to stabilise and then it outputs at perfect ratio

[@jaceybtv7059]

Shooty shooty tutorial please :3

[@adrianjadera9224]

Thank you for this clean, crisp and efficient way of building, Nilaus!

[@ThiagoGasparino]

Thanks for this! Just one thing, I've done the math and, unless I've made a mistake, you actually make more Hydrogen than Carbon with that setup, so it will eventually back up and the system will clog up and stop. Every 4 second cycle you have: One refinery taking 2 Crude Oil and making 2 Refined and 1 Hydrogen. Two refineries taking a total of 4 Hydrogen and 2 Refined Oil and making 2 Carbon and 6 Hydrogen. In total you're consuming: 2 Crude Oil, 2 Refined Oil and 4 Hydrogen, while making: 2 Refined Oil, 2 Carbon and 7 Hydrogen. Net: -2 Crude Oil, +2 Carbon, +3 Hydrogen and 0 Refined Oil. The red cubes use equal amounts of C and H. So you will very slowly be stocking up on H. If you consume all of the Carbon you'll have left 1 Hydrogen every 4 seconds. 10,000 per container, your stack of 3 containers will take 120,000 seconds to fill up. That's 2,000 minutes or about 33 hours 20 minutes. *Edit: actually, that's 1 Hydrogen every 4 seconds for each setup of 3 refineries. So since you have that times 4, you have a surplus of 1 H per second, so it should fill up all the containers in 8 hours 20 minutes. I'm thinking that there's a way one can make infinite free red cubes by setting up a power station that only uses oil products, and the whole system is self-sufficient. Sure, it won't be the fastest way of making the cubes, and there are other sources of free energy in the early game like solar and wind, but I'll try to figure out how much science one can make from 1 oil using a system like this. Should be fun. :)

[@spc-tr]

The way I did my setup was to use both the x-ray cracking recipe and also use the regular smelting to complement it and thus achieve 0 surplus. To make a full belt of red cubes, I needed 32 x-rays, 16 plasmas and 8 smelters. This way there is no waste of hydrogen. Also, can confirm your math here: factoriolab.github.io/list#p=e-matrix*1&s=dsp******1

[@obsidianmoon13]

Later on, it is good to use the excess hydrogen to make hydrogen fuel cells then feed those into the thermal generators. A lot easier and quicker than ringing the equator with solar panels and just as unlimited.

[@kiwidude68]

@@spc-tr Not sure about your math? Using that factoriolab link shows that using the number of x-rays/plasmas and smelters you mention, produces 4 red cubes/sec (not a full belt which would be 6/sec) and has an excess of hydrogen of 1.4/s (it produces 8 graphite and 9.4 Hydrogen/s). What did you do differently to that recipe to achieve 0 surplus?

[@spc-tr]

@@kiwidude68 like i said, the trick is to use BOTH the x-ray cracking AND the regular graphite smelting recipe. Factorio lab doesn't let you turn recipes on and off on a per-factory basis, only globally, thats why you can't see the actual results in there. In order to combine 2 different recipes, you have to open 2 tabs. one like this , for the hydrogen part: factoriolab.github.io/list#p=e-matrix*360&i=graphite*1&s=dsp*gas-giant+graphene-lv2+ice-giant+photon-formula (notice the 480 graphite surplus) another like this for the graphite part (720 - 480 = 240) factoriolab.github.io/list#p=graphite*240&i=hydrogen*1&s=dsp*gas-giant+graphene-lv2+ice-giant+photon-formula+x-ray Hope this makes it clear. What i did in terms of setup, was to merge the output graphite belts with priority set on the one coming from the refineries, so it wouldn't clog and stop the hydrogen production. As for the setup for the hydrogen loop, you can use a buffer, or not, simply using a splitter with 2 inputs and 2 outputs works. What i did was take hydrogens from the x-rays and the plasmas, with priority on the plasmas, output with priority for the xrays and the remainder goes to the labs. Works great and doesnt clog.

[@spc-tr]

@@obsidianmoon13 later on the thermal generators become obsolete, so i think the best use for hydrogen is to convert it to deuterium, to make strange matter, to make graviton lens, to make green cubes and space warpers

[@dondiezel]

Great technique! Even though I still don't have the game I enjoy watching your builds.

[@svenhoek8615]

"Even if we build it temporary, we still want to build it neat." Stong mom vibes.

[@davebaker1325]

Nice design. I've seen 3 or 4 different ways on how to approach this. Each way has its benefits. Nice to see so many options to choose from to meet the current need.

[@JuhaniC83]

I don't believe this is a closed system as you're producing 2 graphite/s and 3 hydrogen/s(2 refined->2hydrogen+2graphite and you have the original hydrogen from crude processing). Eventually the tanks will fill up and the hydrogen will slow down the system until it gets starved of graphite and then it stops.

[@davidingersoll2078]

Did this build with MK 2 sorters and it stopped working. So i changed the xray cracker outputs to MK1 sorters and it works great. Thank you

[@flavioavmello]

Wow. I had a setup similar to this, with two X-Ray for each refinery, it works perfectly and self sufficient. But this is so much more compact and easier to setup. My god, looking at my spaghetti on my setup, then comparing to yours is so funny. Great video, looking forward to your next guides.

[@adreaver]

Direct insertion from the first refinery didn't work for me, I kept having the unfiltered sorter get stuck with hydrogen when the output was full. What worked for me was outputting to belts and looping around to a splitter with a priority output feeding back into the loop and a secondary output feeding the science.

[@OspreyLanthrax]

I really envy (in a good way) people who manage to conceptualize those calculations in there mind. You make it look so easy! Good job and thanks for the tip!

[@Nilaus]

It is a skill, not some inate ability. Practice, experience and refusal to compromise is a good place to start

[@antaguana]

@@NilausAnd pre-planning / calculating off camera makes it looks easy too.

[@tobx7783]

This build is really neat! Well done! Reminds me alot of the Kovarex setup with the managing of the ins and outs.

[@billybegood466]

This is a good setup, but it's not perfect. The Hydrogen output will eventually backup and clog up the entire run without something to offset it. I added two or three of those hydrogen burning generators to take care of that.

[@trevorpowdrell5474]

If you have 4 Oil refineries processing oil and 8 Oil refineries making the carbon and hydrogen you get 3 Hydrogen per second and 2 energetic graphite per second they are not even. You need to either burn off some hydrogen or add 1 energetic graphite per second.

[@devildux7457]

Such a nice and simple design!

[@stretsh6605]

In your stream you asked me if I got some good points from your tutorials. This is the one I had the most benefit from. Awesome explanation, great design! Thanks for these tutorials!

[@richardyoung5429]

It takes genius to do things in the simplest manner. Thank you! Liked and Subscribed.

[@antonigeno]

Wow this is a really neat setup! Saw a different video where he inverts it (2 plasma refineries feed one with x-ray cracking) it produces a lot of refined oil that he then can use to burn on thermal plant to produce energy, plastic and crystals. I like how this game allows you to solve things in multiple ways.

[@tevo46]

cant get this to work. The other two refinery's stop working.

[@will_uxo]

Very good presentation and guide, well done!

[@NatanZabkar]

Long time watcher (used your Factorio videos to do my own "all achievements in one game" run), first time commenting. Just started messing around with Dyson Sphere Program and after losing a few hours with overly complicated approaches I thought to myself "Nilhaus must have a video on this right?". Great tutorials and beautifully efficient solutions, looking forward to the rest!

[@silmearendil]

Thanx for this, very helpful

[@Hydr312]

wait, you can stack the labs lol

[@jgischer]

Huh. I guess I assumed that scheduling of inserters, I mean sorters, was not guaranteed fair, and so this could produce unpredictable results. So I didn't try it. I did much more messy things where I took everything out and put it back in again, but then it can get tricky to take out just the surplus. However, apparently there is a round-robin for sorter output.

[@jgischer]

@@imblackmagic1209 Hmm, maybe it matters if there's a stockpile in the (in your case) assembler? Then it's round robin, but if there's only one item in the assembler it just goes to the first(?) sorter? I mean, Nilaus' setup here seems to work, but he did say you have to let it build up an inventory.

[@Ulnias]

Nilaua man, thank you so much for the startup base vid and this one. As a liver of these games. I don't have the best luck with settingvthinfs up efficiently. But you are def helping me fetched hang of it and ednjoy it even more. Thank you sir. You earned a sub from me.

[@sonico__]

I realised I am a baby and just over fed structures. Now I do have porpouse to do it properly Thanks !!!

[@marcomassa84]

An alternative solution is (in a similar way of a kovarex cycke) to create a "loop" of hydrogen around 8 x-ray cracker. The loop should have a gap with a slow inserter (1.5 items per second but even 0.5i/s would be enough) taking from the end and feeding back to the ingress. The x-ray crackers both pull and put hydrogen from the loop. anything that is not taken by the "feedback" inserter can be sent out as output of the system. Graphite should go into a separate belt. Techinically after you prime the system, the loop is not even needed as long as the hydrogen output is before the input (as you output 3 and take back 2) . I'm just worried that the proposed solution, while being very "beautiful", might prove unstable as it depends on the timing of sorters and on the assumptions that the sorters to the paired refinery run BEFORE the sorter to the lane. If one of the 2 x-ray crackers outputs 1 more hydrogen to the belt (loading/saving small inconsistencies of sorter timing), sooner or later the system might start misbehaving.

[@linamishima]

Rather than using a feedback sorter (inserter), a splitter with a priority output set might be a better choice and less risky

[@marcomassa84]

@@linamishima no, that does not work if you want to use a single lane for both input and output of hydrogen as the line will back up and the refinery will not be able to output the hydrogen (i've tested this myself). Obviously if you have a dedicated lane to input the hydrogen in the refinery then yes, you can use a priotirty splitter in the output line to feed the input one. The feedback sorter is not a risk whatsoever as you need really a minimun amount of hydrogen to feedback in the loop to keep the system stable as the refinery output more than what they produce. alternative instead of the loop sorter you can just use the hydrogen output by the "normal" refinery, as long as the hydrogen output of the x-ray cracker is BEFORE the input (maybe with a cell inbetween.

[@Nilaus]

I think a loop build is lazy if it is possible to make it work with a direct insertion build

[@Anson_AKB]

@@Nilaus yes, direct insertion looks so clean and nice. but imho correctness should have priority before beauty :-) too bad that the ratios of the entire setup are bad and thus sooner or later the hydrogen will jam the system if you don't clean it up (or add some Egraph) from time to time. big buffers mostly don't help, but only make you notice problems later instead of immediately (old factorio wisdom :-) in another comment, you had said that this video is outdated and there is a newer version. I'll have to go looking for it now ...

[@MoDlegion]

I like the compactness of this design, but I'm not a big fan of mixed item belts. Another possible issue with this is that it only works with lvl 1 sorters, lvl 3 sorter with stacking might break the feeding cycle. Also one thing to note, any x-ray fracking setup WON'T produce hydrogen and graphite in a 1:1 ratio, its 1.5:1, so for each 2 refineries doing plasma refining you'll need 1 smelter producing graphite to make it 1:1. 1 refinery produces 30 refined oil and 15 hydrogen a minute. 2 x ray refineries consume 30 refined oil and 60 hydrogen, but they produce 90 hydrogen and 30 graphite. So you end up with 15 - 60 + 90 = 45 hydrogen and 30 graphite per minute for 1 set. This is easy to verify in game as your hydrogen WILL back up, but you probably didn't notice due to the buffering.

[@birthdaywishesforyou]

Hi Nilaus - Your Video Dyson Sphere Program Red Cubes - Starter Hack And Sustainable Design Beginner Guide Tutorial, Very Suitable To Be Applied In My Home...

[@solotango5576]

You go too fast and don't explain the sorter in and outs well enough (on the 2nd build).

[@holyhankGTZ]

Yeah Had Problems following too. And still confused about how much Output you get per min. One is making 15/30?

[@markusdd5]

I do the refineries a bit different. I have a completely symmetrical build and what I do is that I put a Hydrogen-Filter sorter after the output sorter which just pulls Hydrogen back in. That guarantees that the things can always run and obviously once the build is saturated the Hydrogen will just go past this sorter. With this there is no need for the startup trick.

[@andybrown4284]

I was having the refinery take hydrogen off the belt after the output so it was feeding itself but it had a habit of just stopping so opted for a looped belt around the xray refineries using a splitter to prioritise keeping the hydrogen into the loop so only the excess went to cubes.

[@dom5004]

I followed exactly this tutorial however my left hand refinery only gives 1 hydrogen and 1 graphite even when making multiples of this set up. What could i be doing wrong?

[@stephennobles3150]

That's how you want it. It's the extra H on the right hand X-ray that will clog the system eventually.

[@dom5004]

@@stephennobles3150 i see, thank you.

[@VanRest75]

You should see my spaghetti belts system .... and it is not efficient anyway :) Thank you for your vids . Good work :)

[@BitsOfInterest]

Don't delete the red cube hack... I did like you said here but now I'm building it again in the same place as part of sulfuric acid, so you may as well leave it and reuse it. 😜👍 PS I had two oil close to each other so I could build the second version while the hack was still working.

[@JohnEdge]

Please let me know if you find a way to Instantly fill or Pull from liquid containers vs holding the mouse for a straight 3 min. Each time. please and thanks!

[@drkantholz3416]

wow, that's some compact, efficient setup.

[@ShadowCreepa67]

I literally was scrolling through my recently uploaded videos thinking how to efficiently craft the red cubes.

[@srbelnap]

Nilaus can read minds!

[@Nilaus]

Yellow next?

[@ShadowCreepa67]

Yes!

[@duabau]

@@Nilaus Yes! This is very similar to the red build that I use! I would love to get a handle on that darn yellow. Those organic crystals are just a pain!

[@Nilaus]

@@duabau, just did it on stream tonight, so I will start building those in my Lets Play and after that I will make a dedicated tutorial

[@alexanderkuo1578]

Love your elegant design for this.. I had done an "ugly" way of separating the crude oil refinement w/ the hydrogen x-ray cracking as 2 separate lines. But, in the future, as you need refined oil for other production, will you end up building separate refineries to produce more refined oil (since right now, all your refined oil is feeding into x-ray cracking)?

[@calvinharper8568]

Nilaus, first, thank you for your content. I and many others appreciate it. I have an issue and was hoping you could enlighten me...I watched this particular video numerous times and I have built the red cube base. I have let each 'set' get started before outputting. It works great - for a few minutes, then stops producing. I can't figure out why. Any suggestions?

[@carstenterhorst622]

I guess they changed something. Same issue here. The first input refinerys stack refinded oil, do you have the same issue?

[@calvinharper8568]

@@carstenterhorst622 yessir. I moved on to some other hack solution I devised.

[@EliWeeks]

Love the tutorials! Thanks a lot.

[@MyNobody1000]

This does seem to break with faster sorters. Just a warning.

[@zandigga4480]

which tutorial? 1st or 2nd?

[@tomduke1297]

my reds are a sprawling mess, im tempted to redo them like this.... then again, they do work, so.... maybe next time.

[@Nilaus]

fix it until it breaks

[@harbl99]

Even though it's trivial to do so (X to delete, hotkeys to re-place) and probably the intended gameplay style, somehow I can't bring myself to tear down and rebuild from scratch. Oh well, spaghetti chef it is then.

[@thisguy2085]

I feel the same way. It seems easier to just restart than to rebuild. Especially since you can’t delete inventory items that you will pick up deleting belts.

[@kiwidude68]

@@thisguy2085 You can delete inventory items - just select the item from your inventory and hit the delete key?

[@raingaming8]

I restarted a few times maybe 5 or 6 until my current may when I reached making red science and decided to push through. Struggling with the solar sails now and titanium haha

[@bigmjensen]

If ist start a new run will watch all of ur Videos again

[@andrewroberts7788]

Thanks. I was having a build up of refined oil, this solves the problem. Very nice self-contained system.

[@harbl99]

You want that stockpile for organic crystals (Yellow cubes) and plastic (Purple cubes) down the line. Just build additional tanks until you can bleed it off into production later. I keep ending up scrabbling for refined oil but swimming in hydrogen like a gas giant tourist.

[@lars605]

I made a similar setup with the same machines but yours is so much more compact lol, I love it :) cool video's and looking forward to more of them

[@kevinjohn7056]

TLDR: Add 2 smelters making Energetic Graphite and 3 more Matrix Labs to make this build not produce extra Hydrogen. As many people have said, the ratios on this build aren't perfect, but it's not overproducing Hydrogren, it's underproducing Energetic Graphite. Each group of three refineries is producing 5 items every 4 seconds (3 H, 2 EG). Since there are 4 groups, the net result is 5 items/second. To fill a Mk1 belt, we need 6 items/second and since we're short 1 EG/second, all we need to fix this build is 1 miner covering 4 coal veins and 2 smelters making Energetic Graphite. Then you add this 1 EG/second anywhere to the line and it will seamlessly fill up the Mk1 belt. So now with a full Mk1 belt (6/second, 360/minute) we are only consuming 240/minute of that with 6 labs (each lab consumes 40/minute) so we will need to add 3 more labs to fully consume the yellow belt of items. This will now consume 360 items/minute and produce 90 red cubes/minute. It is now a completely balanced build. But... if you really want to ramp this up to make a full Mk1 belt of red cubes, you would need 4 total of this (fixed) build: 16 Plasma Refineries, 32 X-Ray Refineries, Miners covering 16 veins of coal (split into 2 belts), 8 EG smelters, and 36 Matrix Labs. Truly the most efficient! :D

[@randomshizz-gf5xg]

amazing. i'm learning so much from your videos. thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us!!

[@AskZch]

Moar Cubes. GIVE BORG CUBES! Love your Dyson Sphere Program stuff and your style so dropping the comment and the like for da Algorithm of d00m since I can't afford to support you. 🙏 - varying comment data here -

[@_JustMonika]

This is amazing! My setup was at least three times bigger even when using the new recipe with a feedback loop. Time to throw that out on the garbage

[@RezaQin]

Something isn't working because even if i let them fill up, I get an overflow of graphite which causes stoppages. Well, I don't know why, but I re-did it, and now everything is working.

[@madmerlyn]

I did the math on these for anyone interested. For each 6 refinery module (2 crude processing, 4 x-ray cracking) you will get an output of 30m/H and 15/m eG. This means for output a 6/s mk1 belt can support up to 3/s crude input (3 modules, 18 refineries), with 1 caveat. Your total output with 3 of these modules will be about 9 items per second. But, you can handle this with mk1 belts by splitting the output belts up into 2 sides of your filter splitter, since you will be at 6/s hydrogen it won't back up because you technically have 12/s input and output on the splitter. I hope I explained that well enough for everyone to understand, it looks a little complicated, lol.

[@wnose]

Since you're generating hydrogen, set up 4 or 5 fractionaters before the science building. All of that deuterium builds up nicely.

[@Zanktus]

While it is indeed a great build, it still has its flaws. Even with giving that one Hydrogen to the nearest, it will eventually overproduce Hydrogen over Graphite, which will halt the production once the storage tank is full, or even earlier if you run out of Graphite. If you have this one running for a while it will even out at 45/min Matrix instead of 60/min. That being said it is still a good and compact build, just something which needs optimization on the long run.

[@xXDrDistructoXx]

I use your previous design for this, with the refiners in series. This is MUCH nicer! Sweet sweet efficiency.

[@drac124]

In my game this setup gets stuck. The unfiltered part gets stuck with hydrogen, and them oil accumulates and stop everything. This has anything to do with speed of sorters I use?

[@ivanvaliev6601]

That's hilarious. I saw that feedback loop, so making usage of oil refinement and complete usage of ALL refined oil was obvious. Getting with those ratios on hydrogen was trickier. I thought about some stupid ladders or whatsoever. Or even layout that was shown here kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJbYdIaAi7h-p7c&ab_channel=RockPaperShotgun. That feeding back into the circuit using splitters and multilevel belts was wonderful. But THIS is second to none. Very accurate usage of belts. And really exploiting the fact that if you give direct input rom factory to the factory, they will give only needed products. That means, one factory will not try to stuck another one with activated graphite in this case. No multilevels, no swarming of splitters. So simple and cool.

[@honkerbonker6700]

The age before blueprints.. feels like ancient times . Medieval , or ancient Greece , you know.

[@TheGeezerGeek]

Nilaus, today I set up your patten for the x-ray fracking. The problem I have is the refinery that feeds to other two refineries always jams up on the refined oil. I have tier 2 sorters connected, one allowing both, the other filtered to refined oil, but the first in the line just doesn't send the material off consistantly. All have power, I am producing twice the amount of power needed for all my equipment. Any suggestions? Thank you

[@alexspencer7170]

Im 4 hours into the game and it is making my brain hurt.....these videos are very helpful....cheers!

[@enthused1286]

feel like i followed your xray cracking layout perfectly but I have excess hydrogen. using 5 thermal power stations seems to make it balance just right though. maybe I did something wrong

[@Annofreak5]

Okay, now i have to rebuild everything!

[@BenWilkinson-ib5yx]

With this setup you should get a net 3 hydrogen and 2 energetic graphite from the 3 refinery group, not 2 of each. Is the plasma refinery 1 hydrogen output being lost one the system is primed?

[@lightnesskingpwnsyou]

i followed your exact build but i end up producing slightly more hydrogen/graphite than i use with 6 matrix's. But the math seems perfect, why is this?

[@TimCrosbyJr]

single greatest video on the channel. referenced it MANY times. if there's an update for dark fog, please add it!

[@TheOneAndOnlyLUUUU]

Love these guides but you should really invest the occasional 30min to make some kind of basic script. There is a lot of downtime and repetition in your videos which stretches the video length. This one could have easily been only 14-15min long.

[@inakiuriz3637]

Please! do more of that videos! Can you aboard more complex system of fabrication like solar sails? (times, ratios, etc) or the fucking orbit of planets and the railguns

[@melind82]

I like the setup I came up with better, but yours is easier to put down. Just an FYI to folks, this does produce excess hydrogen, which you can just burn off for power.

[@badejong]

Great tutorial on reds. Thanks!

[@leogo9116]

It's a pleasure seeing how you show the particularities of DSP, this video is proof of what this game has in store. Waiting for more.

[@terakahn]

I don't think this is working anymore. The Plasma Refining gets stuck. The non filtered Sorter gets stuck on "waiting to unload" and the sorter filtered for refined oil takes all the refined oil and the non filtered sorter isn't able to take any. But its really inconsistent. Of the 4 Oil refineries, it's only happening to 2 of them.

[@robsami]

not posting to be another critical youtube troll, but with that out of the way -- you seem to suggest that this configuration will produce graphite and hydrogen in equal parts, but i cant make the math work out that way. doesn't this end up building a surplus of hydrogen? this configuration is incredible btw

[@snafubar447]

tfw you think you were slick with your build, but then you watch Nilaus do space magic.

[@stormytuna8714]

not sure what im doing wrong, I've built this exact build in the video but the second set of refineries keeps breaking and i have no clue why. though, as im writing this ive just reconstructed that part for the 4th time and it seems to be doing fine now? weird...

[@bobspalding2477]

while red cubes are something im doing great on, i struggled with hydrogen early, and now on oil. And watching this just makes me slap my forehead, i was being so dumb lol.

[@Cipher00007]

Woah thats so cool!! Thanks for the tips!! This is great but my refined oil keeps getting stuck in the refinery thats producing it.

[@YTN3rd]

All but one setup of mine keep locking up with only 1 hydrogen, back refineries are no longer making hydrogen as they are full of oil.

[@Nomorevideos-f5p]

Thank you so much!! I spent ages trying to sort the refined oil and Hydrogen!

[@DavidGuild]

Worth mentioning: later in the tech tree there are lots of things which need refined oil, and at that point you do not want to be using it all for x-ray cracking. I think cracking is great for the blue/red stage but you probably want to disable it for yellow and purple.

[@Nilaus]

I was considering mentioning that, but I felt that would be too convoluted. Besides, oil is infinite so you may as well set it up like this and perhaps you will redo it later... or maybe not

[@9thsfarchangel]

Or just take another planet and not worry about it.

[@DavidGuild]

@@9thsfarchangel Other planets in the starting system don't have oil. At least not usually - it's possible that you can roll oil as a rare resource. I'm unclear exactly how mapgen works. My first game (defaults, lost to corrupt save) had no rare resource, my second (with 2x resource mult) had fire ice. Not sure if the multiplier matters or was just coincidence. Regardless, starting planet is usually the only oil.

[@egdod3750]

Very elegant design. I had a bit of trouble with the logic behind the three back and forth sorters between the two x-ray crackers, you went pretty fast through that part, and unfortunately it’s the only part that wasn’t obviously intuitive, at least for me. Nice build.

[@madmerlyn]

Each cycle on the X-Ray cracking refineries has 3 outputs. You want to push all of the output H into the second X-ray, but you also want to send 1 H back into the first one. It's a self-buffering loop basically. Then when they have built up their internal supplies you have 1 output from each going to your out-belts. Once they're fully running you have exactly 3 outputs running from the first cracker and 2 outputs running from the second cracker, which perfectly balances the input needs of both and drops the surplus onto your belt.

[@stevengarbarino8851]

If you watched this and it's not working - make sure you don't start the first refinery of the three refinery system until everything is hooked up with sorters. If you run the first refinery before the second two are operational, you'll get backed up with hydrogen on the unfiltered sorter, and the refined oil will never get through.

[@padreigh]

Very different build - the others I have seen so far use a priority feedback for hydrogen through a splitter/sorter priotizing the input for XRay and draining the surplus into a tank. Nice.

[@Nilaus]

I did that as well, but I wanted to see if I could make it self-sufficient and I now like this better

[@donoi2k22]

The sustainable design is not working. Maybe something changed?

[@lonnierh0dgejr41]

i used xray cracking around this point in the game. with the amount of hydrogen i was producing, i was just burning it and the refined oil to get rid of excess. was an easy way to get power and not worry about excess oil or hydrogen.

[@nndn-wc6ko]

there's still variance in the graphite/hydrogen that requires storage containers to provide a buffer so the splitters don't clog. i'm hoping to find a solution that doesn't require storage in the line because the system runs overtime needlessly trying to fill up the storage after the max red cube limit is reached