Dyson Ultimate Battery Modification! Shocking!

[@davidmleonardi]

That's a great re-wiring of the battery! I was wondering, maybe someone has invested some time and created a 3d printable part where one can insert a lipo pack and mount it to the dyson?

[@sidewayzmike]

You are well on your way, to breaking the internet, with this plan! 👏

[@magharees]

I was searching for an onboard solution to keep the handy stock charging station, but this is pretty cool. There must be small enough onboard 6s bms with discharge for esk8s etc which can replace the woeful dyson/clone bms. So far I’ve replaced the cells with 30Q 3Ahr cells. Thanks for sharing tho

[@audi_anatomy]

glad you found inspiration in it :D BR

[@Michel-Artois]

Hi , very good video and explanations! Good power and light weight.....but be careful with this battery type which has no external protection. 18650 cells are placed in an individual metallic cover and then in the plastic box. These polymere batteries are not always stable and have only a fine and soft enveloppe. If placed in an little air plane high in the air : no security problem for the user (perhaps for the air plane!) . But here just under your hand it's absolutely not secure if the pack warms and , possible, burns. Best solution would be to build a solid and secure box before use...I would say it's necessary. Friendly, Michel from France.

[@charlestoast4051]

But another relevant factor is that LiPos, unlike Li-Ion, can not be left fully charged for long periods, and should be kept at storage charge, approx 3.8v per cell, when not in use. This means you need to charge them up to storage charge after use, and then top them up just before using them again if you want to get the longest life from them. I do exactly that with my lawnmower, which used to have a very heavy lead acid 24v battery that took many hours to charge. I replaced it with one of the 6s LiPo batteries I use with my RC models, and it can be charged in as little as an hour if need be, and the weigth of the mower has been greatly reduced. I would suggest these kind of LiPo hacks are best used by experienced LiPo users, who are aware of all the dangers of LiPo packs.

[@Michel-Artois]

@@charlestoast4051 I agree your full comment! And I add to be specially careful with the Dyson VCleaner if we use the max power during more than some minutes : Lipomere Batteries with their high C rate will perform for this use, and it could be pleasant to use often the cleaner with this power...but at max power the Dyson VC needs a lot of amps (that kills the Dyson battery quickly) and it could be another danger with a lipo pack by long stopless use.

[@jonathanvazquezmarin8006]

Hi! Cool video! If you use original original bms and you leave it without voltage in this type of dyson battery,the bms locks and never more works again.

[@sidewayzmike]

Thanks for the insight. 👍

[@timm2845]

There is one guy from Japan that has modified the BMS so it works again he is on KZbin .

[@jonathanvazquezmarin8006]

Do you have the link of the video?

[@timm2845]

@@jonathanvazquezmarin8006 no but just type in dyson battery fix and it may come up.

[@jundaaaaaaaaaa]

Can’t I just solder a battery to a push switch, and have the vacuum push button push the switch I will purchase, and that switch closes the circuit to the battery. Charging the battery can be done externally, like a drill battery of sorts. Would it work?

[@jafinch78]

Looks like my DC56 is a ~24VDC pack since the cutoff is somewhere, if I recall correct, around ~21VDC I found when measure. I was planning to use a Kobalt battery pack when I get around to finding one at a great price. Reminds me I should post some of my videos on iFixit if there's not ones yet detailing what I've worked with. Thanks for sharing! Gives some insight.

[@jafinch78]

Yours looks like a 5S battery FYI... unless the pack is missing a battery. (Update: Oh, interesting... has two missing cells locations). Great design.

[@ericvincent3219]

My wife's v8 is a 6S setup, and I had thought about the Kobalt's until I looked at prices and chargers. Instead, I found the cells are $6-10 each, so I'm going to plan on replacing them instead. I bought a charger that grades batteries (so I can judge condition). Right now, the first battery is 2315 mAh, on cells that are supposed to be 3000. I'm using an XTAR VC8, and I've rigged up a cable and a wood dowel so that I can charge and grade each cell--though it takes a LONG time--to evaluate each and tell me whether they're bad and/or which ones need replaced. Then I'm going to buy new cells and put them in the existing pack, unless I can find a way to purchase a larger housing for bigger batteries that fit (and are cheaper for the same capacity). Good luck!

[@jafinch78]

@@ericvincent3219 Funny is I've just been charging with a 24V power supply with a barrel adapter that uses a double alligator clip plugged in. Been using as-is since since I balanced the cells manually using my Turnigy Reaktor charger. I haven't been motivated to spend anything on yet, though the closest I got was lazily daisy chaining the DeWalt powerwheels switched adapter to this pack. Though seemed a buck converter in between would be better and that kept me from doing anything more since I don't have a buck converter that high enough current yet. Maybe someone can custom design and 3D print a housing for you if you're not in the know on how to or have a maker space of fab lab resources? Can be outsourced printed as well like a few different online shops once you've made the STL file from the CAD app. All the best and thanks!

[@Mark-murdoch69]

Is it not possible to not install the balance part if you charge the lipo on a separate charger ? Or will the vacuum not recognize the extra battery?

[@wouterke9871]

Great idea! Want to use old skateboard pack to give longer runtime. Any idea what voltages the motordriver board accepts?

[@sed6]

Great idea, thanks!

[@factorclassic]

nice presentation and functionality is there, however original case is cannot be used to house this new battery. is it not simpler to just replace 4 cells with new ones and close original case ? Otherwise, this looks like unfinished project. Suggestion: get a decent case to place new battery in, then present it in final section of your clip so you won't have to trim last 30 seconds.

[@audi_anatomy]

there is always space for improovment, and you are right! :) i just lost focus and got into another project before coming up with better case for new battery. Hope you make one, and film it :D!! BR

[@Blagoje1991]

thank you for this hack, helped a lot!

[@joeKisonue]

I would like to find flat cells and manage more mah in the same or double size of the battery for my DC59

[@peterj9581]

Will the Dyson work with just the + and - connected to the battery without the balance connections?

[@smaquafarm2416]

I try with my dc 31 but it will not run. without the logic board

[@2205karl]

I put a Bosch 18v to mine, just like the adapters only mine popped two motors. Why would it do that? Is their components in the adapters to stop the current flow or have I got two bad motors??

[@joeKisonue]

You put 18v to 14.6 designed electronic device...

[@catsnotcops_]

i think the bms also communicates with the control electronics regarding the voltage, since the dc30 works with 4s and 6s batteries. on the pcb it even is labeled "24V", so the device is capable of using this voltage, but maybe only if its communicated by the bms

[@AllTrueIsHim]

I accidentally broke the thermistor on my original battery bms, is there a way i can bypass that or make it work again affordably?

[@audi_anatomy]

thermistor is usually a ptc or ntc resistor. so you might want to try a resistor with high resistance, or jump wire , but im really not sure.

[@AbdullahKahramanPhD]

Go to your local electronics store and you can buy a 100k NTC

[@SKIPPERtop]

Where to buy electronics for battery repair for dyson v8?

[@adarsh1977]

I have a DC30 and the battery says 14.8 V 1500 amp . In amazon i get 22.v with 3000 amp battery - will those work for D30 or i need to only buy 14.8 v?? Appreciate ur response.

[@audi_anatomy]

Only same voltage battery will work. If original is 14.8v, you need 14.8v new battery

[@adarsh1977]

@@audi_anatomy Thanks!!!

[@catsnotcops_]

no, it works with both 4s and 6s

[@rer1967]

Okay, now that you've done this what's going to hold the battery pack in place?

[@audi_anatomy]

judging by your profile picture, I would say duct tape is an obvious answer :D

[@rer1967]

@@audi_anatomy, aww poor thing, sounds like your feelings are hurt. Guess you'll get over it one day

[@gracejacob5633]

Can a 12volt battery run these vacuums? What they lack in voltage is compsated with cranking abilities

[@joeKisonue]

Amps is what you mean. If the voltage matches then size larger than original is fine, just not less.

[@garrygeemendoza837]

Do you use dyson stock charger? And how long to achieve a full charge?

[@audi_anatomy]

Hello, no i dont use it because I suppose it is just too slow. :)

[@kamilthegreat2834]

Replacement battery on amazon is like 55 bucks for 3800mah original battery type.

[@audi_anatomy]

okay, and equivalent rc lipo is ~25 $ :)

[@chapter1762]

$40 with shipping and taxes included on ebay for dyson v6 compatible 4800 mah battery

[@DanO1234567t]

@@chapter1762 they all fail in 3-4 months. Better off buying higher quality panasonic or other batteries and replacing the cells

[@joeKisonue]

The general output of 18650 is around 2200-2600mah. I would expect ebay pacs to be on the low side and be capable of the original pack 2200mah. They of course sell packs labeled to have Sony batteries and in 4,5,6000mah output for $20 currently. I'm sure the packs are 2100mah as I'm sure the green lasers are all 5mw or less even though they claim 5-500mw

[@badhombre4942]

Invest in some electrical tape or better yet shrink wrap, instead of that clear tape.

[@audi_anatomy]

will do, youre right! :)

[@milicadjokic1332]

Great video, keep going!

[@zerosumgamez]

can you mod it to make it works plugged in without the battery?

[@audi_anatomy]

Zero Sum probably, but you would need a power adapter powerful enough, which isnt affordable

[@nipshardaf]

The power adapter will cost you more than the vacuum. AC to DC is not that easy

[@gmcd1828]

Might be wrong but seen a guy use a 6amp 20v laptop charger. Would this work??

[@audi_anatomy]

@@gmcd1828 those lipo batteries are 20-30c, which means they allow current draw equal to 20x or 30x the capacity. which is much higher than 6a...

[@saleemkader2126]

I HAVE DYSON V6 IT IS SIMILAR TO YOURS BUT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THE TOP OF THE BATTERY HAS TWO PRONGS + and - A PLASTIC PIECE , WHEN THE BATTERY IS INSERTED IN THE VACUUM IT PUSHES A SWITCH.. THE WIRES OF THAT SWITCH GO TO THE BMS. . DO I LEAVE IT CONNECTED TO THE BMS. THANKYOU

[@rocktime73]

can i make this change to my v11?

[@audi_anatomy]

Im not sure, but it should be similar in way it was built :)

[@iho2222]

Не работает. Все также сделал на таком же пылесосе... У автора китайская плата. Родная блокируетмя.

[@audi_anatomy]

I just love "specialists" who can evaluate "chinese" board from afar, but not their lack of skill to follow a simple diy tutorial video

[@cypiongm8698]

Becarefull with lipo

[@torukojinnn6331]

Dude , why didnt u just put 6 sony vtc5 , your version kind of looks sucky!

[@jamesbrooks7716]

Thanks for the video in the future try to drop all the ummmmms I almost didn't make it through the entire video. It makes you sound very unsure and it's damn annoying. Not trying to be a ass just giv9ng you viewer end feedback. Update : yeah cant do it it may sound dumb but be on my end and I'm sure I am not alone in this can't pay attention sorting through the uhhhhh s .

[@audi_anatomy]

I feel you. I also find those things dealbreakers sometimes here on YT. The thing is, this was my very first video, and I am not native english, so have to think extra hard whilst talking. :) I do appreciate your comment as it is sincere and real. Maybe try to mute and watch with captions xD? Best regards!