5 Myths About Old School Yu-Gi-Oh!

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[@namelessanonymous2913]

Contrary to popular belief, you CANNOT send your opponent to the shadow realm.

[@liberator101]

Hahahhahahahahhahahahaha

[@iiTsMacca]

This made me chuckle

[@marcoreis4539]

Speak for yourself, yesterday I sent my brother to the shadow realm :)

[@alibabasaluja2000]

I been sending my friends to the shadow realm since or taking their soul with The Seal Of Oricalcos since 2007

[@kefkapalazzo1]

Aren’t they just being killed in the Japanese dub lol

[@DocDoesGamingYT]

Face-up defense position? I'm more of a Forbidden Memories man myself: *sets monster in face-down attack position*

[@egeorgiades93]

The Ultimate Gamble. Is it Kuriboh or Dark Magician? Good Luck!

[@seanvti]

I fuse my entire hand!

[@dr.sleaseball441]

i fuse every monster i have on my hand, everyone fails, im left with "key mace".

[@CausticCatastrophe]

darkness approaches

[@willooo09]

@@CausticCatastrophe RIP, it's been changed in rulings after master rule 4

[@AFCManUk]

Myth: Back in 'Old School' Yugioh, people actually KNEW what Pot of Greed did.

[@boopsnoot2807]

AFCManUk FACT:this joke doesn’t make sense because I don’t know what you’re talking about

[@boopsnoot2807]

Nightstalker_55_420 it’s one reference to pot of greed because the joke around that is that no one knows the effect of POG, even though we really do. I was making the joke that I don’t understand the joke, because it’s a joke about pot of greed. Kind of a joke within a joke.

[@szilagyipeter6698]

Yeah, man. They aaaalways say it, when it's used nonstop :))) and they draw it out for 5 sentences :))

[@HolyLightofAngel]

Yeah I know too and I'm from old school yu-gi-oh I never played konami rules in my time as I remember with my friends we didnt play or even know TCG and or OCG versions or even Master Rules we always followed based in the Anime And yeah we knew about Pot of Greed and you are right if you still dont know that's right beacuse i know what does it do DRAW 2 CARDS FROM YOUR PLAYING DECK yeah that's what it was for us back in the day.

[@SpeedMalid]

lol

[@mdhutch2002]

Back when I was growing up, I didn't realize that tribute summoning required you to tribute a monster card; I thought you could tribute magic and trap cards too. Turns out I was just a True Draco player way ahead of their time.

[@otisl.1422]

Oh god. This is bringing back so many memories of arguing with my friends over the rules. I don't think I'll ever forget the day where Andrew slammed a Mirror Force down from his hand when I was about to hit him with a direct attack from my Gaia TFK. "You have to set the trap card first and it can't be played until the next turn!" "Nope. You activated my trap card's effect. All of your monsters are destroyed." Even after turning to the section in the rulebook, this sunuvabeech refused to accept that he was wrong and had lost the duel. THEN got his sister and another friend to agree with him because that's how they always played. Fuck you, Andrew. You lost that duel.

[@tsb3208]

#FuckAndrew

[@likepolice5769]

#FuckAndrew

[@DonatelloKavehrsace]

#FuckAndrew

[@i0am0superBlast]

#FuckAndrew

[@porknurbeans7834]

In my first tournament a girl tried that shit too. I was beating her bad so I was just like it's fine let her use her trap hole. Out of nowhere, a tournament official told her she broke the rules and declared the trap hole dead. He then chewed my ass for "allowing" someone to play wrong🤣🤣🤣

[@cybernetic_fighter_z_the_h9362]

Yu-Gi-Oh players: Having your opponent draw 2 cards from your card effects is bad. Uno players: !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?

[@juri101]

Cybernetic_fighter_Z_The_Hell_Kaiser_Of_Long_Names you know that’s a real card

[@averagetony19]

@@juri101 Yes. He's referring to Gift of Greed.

[@IronLucario2012]

Not as bad if you're playing a mill deck, though.

[@user-vm9xz4kv9z]

*your

[@blastodermis]

@@user-vm9xz4kv9z learn your grammar before doing what you're doing.

[@futa7ha6oat63]

in my neighborhood a "shadow game" meant that the winner could pick any 1 card from the other persons deck and keep it.

[@mainstreamanime9484]

I remember losing and crying when someone took my elemental hero sparkman

[@witchking008]

Mainstream Anime mine is Dark magician girl with different background

[@jaiko1535]

Battle city rules

[@AnTunZee]

I remember when I thought I was hot shit because I had a bunch of holographic cards in my deck. I played this one kid and lost terribly because my cards had no synergy. We was playing for keeps and he took my Harpie Lady Sisters

[@godspeedhero3671]

That's just Ante with extra steps.

[@Justin3Santiago]

People online: "Old school Yu-Gi-Oh wasn't degenerate and allowed both players to play" Me: *'Nam flashbacks of getting Yata Locked during recess at school by that kid who went to tournaments*

[@Wolfire4]

So you're trying to tell me there are people in the world who don't follow uno on every social media?

[@josephwodarczyk977]

Plebs.

[@jessejive117]

Wolfire 4 sad state of affairs were in...

[@stormyweraf7923]

Wack

[@yusufbukhari6962]

i actually do follow them to tell my friends to stoop their rampant cheating because im that guy who immediatly questioned a game being broken so i always read the manual first

[@eaglewarrior21]

Never play it.

[@ASMRDoodlez]

Uno is just clarifying the rules before the next regional.

[@greedow]

does uno has regionals?

[@133thefallen]

Mileena! You’re alive! Praise the elder gods!

[@jeremygott7709]

@@133thefallen Now I want a video of Mileena playing Uno. I could see someone playing a wild draw four on her and getting their head bitten off in retaliation.

[@marcuswolve7297]

Qualquer gamer and then there are semis, and regional-semis and national regional semis!

[@jaygardner6639]

@@greedow they have championships Monopoly is the same

[@wendygo7962]

When you realize summoned skull has a SPINE on its CHEST

[@bigweiner4217]

Mind-Blown

[@bongoeworld7234]

HIS WHOLE SKELETON IS BACKWARDS!!! AAAAAHHHHHH

[@dory4498]

Jerry Goss what the frick

[@ryanschmidt3913]

Or...maybe it's his sternum?

[@wendygo7962]

@@ryanschmidt3913 I wish, just look up the anatomy of a skeleton, that's definitely a spine where it shouldn't be.

[@legendsyomi4267]

When i was a kid, i was playing yu-gi-oh against one of my friends. He had a lot of good cards like blue-eyes and those sphinx monsters from anubis. I also had some good cards at that time, relinquished, black luster soldier and red eyes. It was all going fine until he used polymarization and he fused a blue eyes white dragon with luster dragon and put them on eachother and he said his monster had 4900 atk now. I explained that it did not work like that and he did not wanna believe me.

[@samueledionisi6803]

Lmao that's hilarious. I remember when I bought my first deck in elementary school (it was the machina cards, I don't remember the name of the structure deck) and one of my friends decided to duel me, stating he would destroy me. He set Marshmallon on his first turn, and when I attacked he activated the effect. I thought that was it, but the guy just flipped the monster face down again. At first I didn't even notice, but then I bumped into it again and lost another 1000 LP. Tried explaining him the rules, but to no avail, and he just kept using the monster's effect and placing it face down again. Needless to say, he destroyed me.

[@wisemage0]

gigachad

[@valletas]

@@samueledionisi6803 at that point i would just leave the game

[@malfaroangel3896]

Better than the kids I played with, they wouldn’t even look at the attack values. They just say whichever card look cooler wins….

[@TeacherFigueiro]

When I used to play whoever could better makeup an effect vaguely based on the anime and give a solid explanation wins, I'm Brazilian and the cards were in English, we were just kids lol

[@matthewstockhausen]

i remember as a kid asking people if they wanted to play actual rules or duelist kingdom rules.

[@xshobux]

I remember way back in the day playing in some local tournaments where they'd have special rules with no tributes required. Had a separate deck filled with level 7/8 monsters.

[@TheDeathmail]

To be fair... the duelist kingdom rules WERE the actual rules and the other was the real world rules.

[@SevenCompleted]

the old bandai card game didnt require tributes but I also remember something about your monsters being destroyed if their defense wasnt as high as the attackers or some shit like that it was actually kind of cool.

[@danielcallow8124]

@@SevenCompleted this was from the anime. During the first season the anime didn't follow any rules and had weird events like dropping a floating castle into the opponent's other monsters and somehow dealing damage.

[@FluffyCloudsandCats]

god i love the anime rules

[@wheelotime2581]

Myth: you can fuse your opponent's dragon with your zombie to make it rot

[@luckysevens6852]

Kaiba: How can you do that!? Yami Yugi: It's called CHEATING!!!

[@zacharyportnoy7618]

Myth u can fuse any two monsters and make your own

[@squishgod9094]

@@zacharyportnoy7618 Leave my oc Blue Eyes White Judgeman alone! He has 5000 atk and can't be destroyed!

[@pickyphysicsstudent201]

Myth: You can destroy the moon, to make the tides reseed, in order to make all your opponent's water monsters get destroyed.

[@hardiltakhar380]

Yeah right. Next thing you’re going to tell me is you don’t start with 2000 lp and the traditional way to summon level 5 or higher monsters is with tributes

[@Corrupted]

Imagine playing uno without stacking +2s

[@HunterIAR]

Exactly

[@danieltsiu7383]

Stacking is lame and makes the game way too long

[@CalebNewbery]

@@danieltsiu7383 Stacking is great, it's hilarious when someone throws down a +2 and then everyone keeps stacking +2s until someone runs out of +2s and has to pick up loads of cards.

[@Origami84]

@@CalebNewbery And if you allow to stack on top of a +4, it gives a nice thrill when the next guy ask "what color?" and you know he has at least a +2^^

[@jairhiguera8804]

You are not supposed to!!!!

[@oneandonlycara]

Actually a lot of the rule differences in the anime stem from it being based on the manga which was made without the actual card game existing so especially up to duel city the issue of balancing the stuff wasn't even thought about

[@JT5555]

very much this. glad to see i'm not the only one that knows this shit.>_

[@babiluki]

The manga is brutal

[@glitchedoom]

People tend to forget Yu-Gi-Oh is based on a card game that was just a plot device. It didn't have defined rules because it didn't need them, but that came back to bite them when the OCG was made.

[@joeb6750]

​@@glitchedoomold comment but figure I would piggy back off of this - the original Yu-Gi-Oh story was highly centered on games and magic (ie shadow games) An issue of it being too dark / graphic and desire to sell merchandise had it retrain had it more focus on 'Duel Monsters' Similar issues to web novel / light novel / anime adaptations catching up to source material. They can't just wait, they have to produce something

[@LonkinPork]

Honestly, what remains of my 8-year-old self is still pretty rattled that Time Wizard's effect doesn't age Baby Dragon into Thousand Dragon like it did for Joey in the anime. You just Fusion Summon the old bastard.

[@TheCrashunderride]

Even though it being a special summon using time wizard would make more sense frankly

[@DragoSmash]

@@TheCrashunderride Dark Sage says hello

[@draco107]

I was pretty upset too. At least games like the sacred cards on gba allowed you to do that.

[@skilledwarman]

@@draco107 yeah I was gonna say the gba games absolutely had this

[@distortedmedia7810]

Still protesting until they make Age-Summoning a thing. I want old versions of every card

[@Jinkuzu]

"Obelisk is no Monster. It's a god" - Kaiba from Dark Dimensions

[@alonsoarana5307]

Official Rule Book: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@Berserk_Deathmask]

Pls, use the japanese quote that is much more epic. "Monster de wa nai! KAMI DA!"

[@luckysevens6852]

Screw the rules, I have money! -Kaiba

[@joshualee4720]

Berserk Deathmask It's the same thing...

[@AtticKnight]

@@Berserk_Deathmask Fucking weeb

[@BlacKing500]

So your telling me that Yugioh season 1 was all just a bunch of bullshit?!

[@patrickj.pilardiaz3849]

You should read season 0 manga, Atem killed a guy

[@nujin0093]

Yes

[@MasterXChief05]

Yep

[@lpfan4491]

it preceeded the rules, so it did not break them

[@ZhiroMinoda]

even though it was before the oficial rules, the game they were playing in season 1 was supposed to be role playing with tgc elements, NOT a dueling card game. So basically bullshiting their way to victory was one of the main rules

[@lamiaprincess6371]

There is a point of minor correction: people might be getting confused with the original _OCG_ rules where tributing for high level monsters was not in the game. This was changed within a few months (particularly because cards like Blue-Eyes were extremely overpowered) when the Expert Rules came out, and the TCG has always followed the Expert Rules and never the Original Rules, so it's possible that some people might get confused and think that's also been the case in the TCG.

[@NickersonGeneral]

Possibly, but I think it's more likely they're just basing it off of how they played at recess when no one read the rules and dueled based on yugioh season 1 logic. I even remember when I was first getting into the game, someone asked me "ok, Duelist Kingdom rules or Battle City rules?"

[@chucklesdeclown8819]

@@NickersonGeneral season 1 logic was insane, Ive been watching the anime and copycat not only can copy any card but usually is played in the spell/trap card zone. Which weirds me the fuck out. What is cool about season 1 logic is that "combos" seemed to need specific cards with specific conditions though, like to activate the virus card you had to attach it to a monster then have that monster destroyed to infect the others deck. Or that toon world could protect all your monsters you made into toon monsters, or that a lot of advantage is created depending on what type of field you fought on. That first season is balanced by the fact that it seems you can do a lot of things to counter your opponents play even if such cards are powerful. It just seems really weird how the first season logic works but it's actually really cool in a sense, like could you imagine if your monsters had to navigate a maze while worrying about monsters in the walls or under the floor while worrying that your opponent is creating a big ass boss monster that can protect each of the pieces from harm. I would love a separate ruleset just for duelist kingdom play cause I wanna see how they would handle that kind of game which was more like a board/card game mix rather then just a card game because it looks wildly interesting.

[@Envy_May]

​@@chucklesdeclown8819 the reason they play cards like copycat and time wizard in the spell/trap zone in the anime is because those cards were straight-up just spells in the manga lol

[@Arcademan09]

When I was a kid, I had a Yu-Gi-Oh magazine that had full size scans of the God Cards so I cut them out and pasted them on regular cards.

[@Klonoahedgehog]

I used to do that same shit and people fell for it. lol

[@Arcademan09]

@@Klonoahedgehog we actually scammed a few kids too lmao

[@forestadamo4209]

@@Arcademan09 I felt for it when I was a kid 😂😂

[@h3nder]

I remember printing God cards and trading them for cards.

[@toasterstrudils]

BASED AF

[@lightning0938]

So you're telling me Cyber Commander was never meta? But it's Tristan's favorite card.

[@YohananYGO]

xD

[@YohananYGO]

HE can be meta in the link format my dude

[@YohananYGO]

Normal monsters got good special summoning support and thus you go for link spans my man

[@carolinewald3109]

Oof

[@linuswelch1173]

Cyber commander is weak launcher commander is better

[@GilliganKrueger0829]

FACT: The Dark Magician Girl is STILL hot!

[@brendan9734]

Dark Magician Girl is 10 years old. You're going to jail.

[@guywithalampshadeonhishead6672]

@Brendan She’s actually 13 but your statement still stands

[@GilliganKrueger0829]

Epic Gamer27 Where did you get this information? I’m not saying that you’re wrong I’m just curious as to your source...

[@guywithalampshadeonhishead6672]

@GilliganKrueger0829 The Yugioh character Guidebook millennium Book 2015

[@ryansanagustin6553]

Epic Gamer27 if she was 13 in 2015, then in 2020 she’s...

[@ThePhoenixProduction]

The only weird thing our elementary school did was we treated trap cards like spell cards, we basically didn't know we couldn't just activate them from our hand on our turn. Also MST negating lol.

[@breadeater1194]

One thing I didn't realize for so long is you can't activate a trap the turn you set it.

[@bigd1348]

I studied the rule book watched all the tutorials and had all the rules down before I ever played my first card

[@leaffinite3828]

@@bigd1348 yeah i did too. No one at school liked my rules lawyering though, lmao.

[@ElHarmonyV]

I legit had a classmate who thought that the Winged Dragon of Ra worked like in the anime and kept bragging how no one could beat him.

[@kylehyde215CA]

Contrary to popular belief, ripping up your opponent's card doesn't end the game, big boi.

[@NecromancyForKids]

It does, but it ends in your loss.

[@thedukeultimate]

You would actually get so fucked up for that

[@Brohan97]

But then it can never be used against you

[@yaboigavin13]

I get this because i watched the anamation

[@funtimegamer8733]

Disqualification?

[@InvisibleHotdog]

So you're telling me that my mom overpaid for an illegal Winged Dragon of Ra card for my birthday in 2004?

[@mako8091]

How much?

[@InvisibleHotdog]

@@mako8091 big much

[@luke-dl8tk]

I got that card for free in a yugioh Xbox game.

[@synus5300]

Damn lmao

[@zaloppos]

I spent 100 dollars to get one back in the day I know it wasn't legal.

[@CanComp]

Back then we always thought that for 10 or more Stars you need to tribute 3 cards instead of two. Probably coming from the anime where the only memorable 10+ stars were the god cards which indeed required 3 monsters as tribute

[@chucklesdeclown8819]

Tbh I thought that too,

[@yubl10]

This video is 4 years old, but oh well. This video is correct about the rules on tribute summoning if we are only talking about the tcg and not including anything ocg related at all which I am going to assume is the case. Fun fact: In Japan, they had a format called the official rules, but we never got it in the West. We only got the expert rules over here. In the official rules, you could summon lvl 7 and 8 monsters without tribute, but you could only play one spell or trap each turn. So what we saw in the anime in Duelist kingdom was closer to the Japan only official rules that we never got. Also, the Duelist kingdom arc was based on a Japan only tcg called monster collection. This information really needs to be more widely known.

[@hightidekraken]

UNO: we invented this game Fans: I disagree with you OFFICIAL rulings

[@josephstickles6069]

They've stated different rules in the past

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

As president of Kaiba Corp, I declare this INVALID!

[@ayandragon2727]

Left Sock Inc. When and what rules did they change?

[@Vanessa_exe]

its funny because a lot of people either misinterpret the rules or just add rules because there losing you cannot stack +2 and +4 cards, you can however stack +4 and +4 cards, and +2 and +2 cards

[@JonaxII]

Well, they did not really invent it, the game is under different names with similar rules (played with regular playing cards) much older than the commercial versions like Uno or Solo.

[@MidnaMischievousImp]

Anime: My monster is underwater, therefore you can't see or attack it! :V

[@RyuDouro]

Then I will just destroy the moon and control the waves

[@pittymumel1850]

@@RyuDouro not so fast! i activate my spell card that isn't a quick play spell card during your turn! but that's not all! I then use castle of darkness so you cant even see my monsters!

[@RyuDouro]

@@pittymumel1850 you fool! my monster attacks spits fire which reveals your monsters but I attack your castle instead anyway so it falls on top of you and your monsters. LUL

[@roberthasudungan1546]

@@RyuDouro I use Shadow Spell to cripple your monster. It is actually a Trap Card but as The President Of Kaiba Corp I declare it as a Spell Card.

[@Lumaking7]

Isn't that the same thing with panik and the field covering the darkness

[@justinmadrid8712]

Due to the anime emphasizing how traps only activate when you are attacked, we originally thought you could only use Trap Hole when you were being attacked.

[@nitrisprime8963]

Some of my favorite "playground rules" (Just stuff me and my friends used to use): -Labyrinth wall can in fact function as a field spell (This would take a lot of explaining) -If your opponent has no monsters on the field, but have a field spell, you can forgo attacking them directly and attack the field spell (they take no damage but the field spell is gone, this can still activate spells and traps however so gotta be careful) -If you can make up a cool enough name you can fusion summon whatever you want, the attack is the lowest monsters attack + half the highest monsters attack (So like if you dark magician and blue eyes white dragon it would be 2500 + 1500) -You must explain the cards effect in a dramatic fashion or you have to flip a coin, if it lands on heads, the effect doesn't activate -Always comically overreact when losing, it makes it more fun and helps to keep people from feeling bad about losing -NEVER disrespect someone else's cards!!!!! As you can see we were huge fans of the anime's lol

[@Itama22]

Can you let the Dark Fortress fall on the enemy monsters if you destroy the floating ring?

[@trueblue6201]

You mean Castle of Dark Illusion?

[@Itama22]

@@trueblue6201 Yes, i forgot the name :p

[@shootermcgavin6610]

Hahahahaha.

[@mako8091]

In the anime, yes. Real life, no.

[@doctorrussia]

Big if true

[@DonatelloKavehrsace]

“You can’t fusion, xyz, synchro etc summon a monster from extra deck unless it was there before the duel started” Plot breaking protagonists that create cards out of nowhere: you’re telling me that’s illegal ???

[@lethalassassin1754]

Dr Stone Boner well they never carry around extra deck cards they just happen on the field when polymerization is used. But then again they also played without holograms for a long time before they were made in season 1 by Kaiba....so how would you make a monster without having the fusion or extra card?

[@poissonmulti-taches2742]

@@lethalassassin1754 Just ... They know every single fusion card of the game ? So they can play without the card ?

[@70Lu07]

Yuya: i can explain

[@arrianah5080]

I discovered the game though the anime so i thought i could just fuse random monsters together lmao..

[@tendo3526]

@@arrianah5080 oh we did that as well....I did combine 2 Exodia ,1 wasnt strong enough.

[@naterk9460]

"The anime had less life points so that players could actually finish the game within a reasonable amount of time." Meanwhile here's 7 episodes portraying a duel that would have lasted 10-15 minutes in real life

[@TSfish94]

But we need those episodes to talk about the shadow realm, work in a vague connection between Kaiba and yugi that wouldn’t pay off for 200 more episodes, show a weird dream coma where Joey finally wins, and of course we gotta cut away to Téa every 2 minutes to talk about friendship. And maybe in that time we can squeeze in one or two money shots of Egyptian gods fighting each other. But we also have to make sure we get that Melvin fan service in for good measure.

[@TheTexasDice]

Maybe Mai should've put more than 2 monsters in her deck.

[@slicedcrystal]

yeah. its like if you want duels to go over just as fast whit 8000LP in the show. why not let evryone use some realy garbage cards

[@adambriton5394]

You'll have to be more specific

[@slicedcrystal]

well for exempel the king off games yugi (atem). why not have a more useful deck. there is just so mutch random stuff in it that dont sync. same for kaiba he have alot off usless cards in his deck. i know i know cards are more rare in the show then irl but they could have more sync cards like in gx. not the best decks there also but the was way more full decks.

[@Random1567]

I get why the anime allows face up defense normal summons. It’s more interesting to the common viewer to see the monsters rather than just a set card that flips up for a second before it’s destroyed. It’s not accurate, but I get that reasoning.

[@andyvie5332]

Rip face-down attack position (Darkness approaches)

[@discipleofshaun5252]

At least we still have trap monsters that are treated as traps.

[@Goblin_Hands]

That'd be sooo cool if they made an archtype that allowed you to summon a monster in face-down ATK mode. But how would that work without the opponent knowing what it was?

[@joshuastrickler1077]

Better yet death approaches

[@jgamez106]

Right, that was such a weird and interesting card.

[@malachihormel7994]

Legitimately the reason I quit the game right here.

[@brandonmedina3993]

Commenters Don't Understand How Inaccurate the Anime Really Is

[@nickwinderweedle6854]

Top comment. Everyone can go home now.

[@Lost_Avenger89]

Not necessarily. The anime was made way before the card game was ever going to be a thing. So the rules in the anime were very inconsistent. The anime is sometimes not even accurate with the anime rules though lol

[@SamoaJoeR.E.A.L]

@@Lost_Avenger89 It was more based on the manga in the first season I believe which would explain somr of the odd things that happend in the kingdom Arc. I might be wrong

[@SwagMaster824]

Kipp Cummings I think you mean the Manga because that came out in 96 and the card game was released in 99 and the Duel Monsters Anime the one we all know and love was released in 2000. Then There's the Season 0 that was based on the early Manga from 96 that came out in 98 but that version of the anime isn't even the same and on top of that they weren't playing the same version of the Yu-Gi-Oh game that the 2000 anime was playing.

[@actionturnip395]

The anime was a weird fusion of the manga rules (which predate the card game by several years) and the real card game, which is why it’s so all over the place. For example flip effects were simply NEVER a thing in the manga, and it’s even shown LATE in the manga that it’s not possible to set multiple spell/trap cards face down in the same turn, which is certainly not the case in the anime... I also think it’s funny how there are a number of cards that were more balanced/powerful in the manga. Jinzo took 2 sacrifices, Baphomet and The Legendary Fisherman were 4 star monsters, and Dark Magician Girl gained 500 atk for every DM instead of 300, etc. Lastly, almost EVERY early card that became banned in the actual game (except thousand eyes restrict) didn’t exist in the manga and was introduced for the anime...

[@youdontknowwhoiam2449]

I can’t believe people used to think that 5 star monsters didn’t need tributes, because when I was a kid, I thought you had to tribute enough monsters to equal the number of stars on the card, which is why all of my brothers would only touch level four monsters with 1800+ attack and whatever level 8 monsters we had to get beat sticks

[@isaiahbroussard6127]

This was pretty nostalgic for me. I played in tournaments in old school yugioh. I stopped playing around 06 or 07. I can say straight up in early days there certainly was a meta. Every deck shared the same 30 or so cards. There were some busted ones. Raigeki, pot of greed, harpy's feather duster, monster reborn, and a ton of other no cost, super strong cards. You'd run 3 MST, have a witch of the black forest and sangan, and a bunch of 1900 atk 4 star monsters. Archetypes weren't much of a thing. I played a warriors theme, but that kind of synergy wasnt really the thing to do. Controlling your opponents hand was king. Hell you could throw a random yata garasu on your deck without control cards and win. I certainly stole a few wins that way before the little bird was banned. Sometimes you'd see others sticking to a theme, but a lot of the meta at the time was centered around solid cards that could be thrown into any deck and hand control. Dunno how the game is played now. A few years back I played with someone borrowing one of their many decks and the game was a lot slower and probably a whole lot more fair than when I played.

[@Ultra_DuDu]

Uno commenters doesn't understand stacking +2 and +4.

[@mantislazuli]

Can you chain Spell Speed 2 cards to these?

[@NoName-bg7lw]

froggy0025 probably because +2 and +4 aren’t spell speed 3

[@mhail7673]

Draw 2 and draw 4 are spell speed 4. There is no stacking...

[@anonymouspokemon4623]

Lmao nobody cares what some corporation thinks. +4 is made black (custom color) for a reason, so that it can change into whatever color you want.

[@acicon]

I remember the old rulebook also saying that you had to verbally announce all the actions that you did during your turn. Much like how the anime characters do in the show.

[@magnedeusfenrir9582]

Me: "I ATTACK YOUR LIFEPOINTS DIRECTLY!!!" "Everyone in class stares" Me: "I'm just following the rules, the characters shout all the time, don't judge me!"

[@xAznSkyxx]

I activate pot of greed which allows me to draw 2 cards

[@vashvail4966]

I still do it. Just makes the game more fun. LOL

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

I summon summoned skull and use makyu and because summoned skull uses electricity powers, his attack goes up and fucks your shit up because logic ._. !!!!!!!!!

[@DennEsIstCool]

The rulebook also said you have to shake hands with your opponent.

[@ADHDnD13]

Time for today’s video, another edition of “Dzeef reminds casual players that they are not in fact the center of the universe”

[@Diabl0Mask]

I'm an old school player and my favorite era of the game was the Synchro era. Back then the game was simple enough to get into without having to read overwhelming amounts of text, but also had enough variety of cards and complicated rulings for creative plays. I'm not saying modern yugioh is lacking this balance, but it's harder to get back to the game now than ever. Duel Link and SPEED duels was a great addition though.

[@UneFemmeSoja]

I thought I had to tribute 3 monsters to summon a level 10 monster because of Egyptian God's.

[@TruthMilitia]

No no, that's only because the effect of Egyptian God's require the three tributes. Any other require two tributes

[@PokeGar]

TruthMilitia wait wut. My whole life I thought lvl 5-6 was 1 tribute; 7-8 was 2 tributes, 9-10 required 3 and 11-12 required 4

[@baguettaroshish3507]

@@PokeGar some games don't even allow ya to summon 4 monsters lol

[@Symonch_]

Actually i would have liked this kind of ruling

[@joshuakim5240]

I remember having a copy of Infernal Flame Emperor (thought it was the shit when in reality it kind of sucked even back then) and thinking that levels above 8 required 3 tributes and played as such. Had no idea that i was gimping myself like an idiot the whole time.

[@Cetra29]

What about that one time when Kaiba could not calculate the possibility of drawing Exodia and then relied to "Quantum Analysis"?

[@TJackson736]

Quantum just means discrete amount.

[@likepolice5769]

Thomas Jackson *hmm yes descrete amount analysis*

[@AndresNavaHurtado]

@@TJackson736 but does it?

[@Mate811]

@@AndresNavaHurtado no, he is misinterpreting definitions and spreading bullshit on the internet

[@bruhmoment1835]

@@AndresNavaHurtado That's the literal definition.

[@Dave2kool4skool]

In the Bronx one variation was called "street rules" where you could play any monster without tribute, send any card any time from your hand to graveyard, and the most broken was the "hand reload" where you could draw 5 cards once if you had nothing. This was around the time of legacy of darkness I believe.

[@dudono1744]

you could play your whole hand twice ?

[@chucklesdeclown8819]

That's some insane street rules

[@davidagosta]

The no tributes needed for Lv5+ monsters was never a in the TCG. However before the TCG existed in the OCG there was a short lived "Yugioh Jr" ruleset that didn't require tributes for summoning Lv5+. This simplified ruleset was intended to make the learning curve easier for younger players. I think it lead to too much confusion when those players later had to learn the official rules for sanctioned play, so this primer ruleset was discontinued.

[@Corrupted]

Just using random cards from your collection to have 2 random decks and play against each other with shitty slow cards, I loved that

[@lotgc]

I love throwing together two random decks once in a while and have them go at it.

[@IlIlIlIllIlIllI]

That's what I do but no friends lol i duel myself all the time

[@lotgc]

@@IlIlIlIllIlIllI well, hey, the best opponent you'll ever face is yourself.

[@songanon]

lots of local shops do this with new pack releases. Everyone gets a certain amount of packs from the set, make a deck quick and play a tournament. Back then This was the most fun I've ever had

[@cherrybomb4894]

I really hate new yugioh.

[@ccc2839]

Myth : kuriboh with multiply literally make infinite wall monster

[@DrunkManSquakin666]

Imagine what that would do with a Cannon Soldier, lol.

[@ryansanagustin6553]

Sewer Side fact: u can threaten to throw urself off a building if ur opponent doesn’t let u win

[@juannunez5767]

I'm surprised that this video didn't mention card limits. As an old man who was a teenager playing YuGiOh back in 2002-2004, I remember that a lot of players weren't aware that you couldn't just have 3 Pot Of Greed or something in your deck unless someone told you.

[@-AirKat-]

Okay but the “official” UNO rules are a perfect example of death of the author.

[@joseortega7815]

My friends played with 10,000 LP at times. We summoned high level monster and ritual monsters without tributes. We added fusion monsters in the actual deck and didn't use Poly to summon them. We just had a lot of fun with it.

[@smf2k01]

Ngl chief that sounds fun

[@mikelim7514]

we made cardboard duel mats with 15 monstercard zones and spell and trap card zones and would play with 40000 ~ 50000 life points and played with or 3 decks at once it was really great

[@MrKrinkelz]

Thats what you call big brain time

[@ScrilboBaggins]

Same!

[@guyinthecorner0]

@@mikelim7514 sounds like a weird wanna be EDH from Magic and I love this idea

[@crocodilerock4662]

In the PlayStation game, “Yugioh! Forbidden Memories”, you could also summon a monster face-up in defense mode.

[@rescuerex7031]

And one of the games let you Set in Attack position

[@jaimereupert4247]

@@rescuerex7031 it was that same game

[@Poet482]

That game makes me so nostalgic. The rules did confuse me, since they were different from the real game. Also, fusion was super cool in that game.

[@crocodilerock4662]

@@Poet482 when I played it as a kid I had no idea how you were supposed to win. Then I realized you actually have to go back to the title screen and just grind enemies for card drops before being able to progress in story mode

[@azuredragoon2054]

A little late, but summoning in face-up Defense was helpful in making certain anime strategies work. Cards like Gate Blocker need to be face-up to apply their effects. So enabling a defense position summon means you can get a monster out with its best stat in front and without sacrificing its effect and creating extra tension in cases like Labyrinth Wall or Millennium Shield.

[@KDBBM]

I want to play old school Yugioh now

[@Hunted0LessShirt]

Goat format is still commonly played on Dueling book, check it out if you're interested.

[@PrimeroJinJusuke]

Yata-Garasu lock. You lost.

[@invencible373875559]

you can play the gba and ds games of yugioh if you are interested

[@tetsumagi6222]

Legacy of the Duelist (although I know this channel gave points as to why he doesn’t like it) is great for this purpose. If you want to play the classic decks and are okay with going against character bots, it’s thoroughly enjoyable.

[@YuyuHakurei]

You can also play older games on emulator for more fun rulings on what the cards did. Especially if cards were errata'd in a way you don't like.

[@ViperofStumps]

Contrary to popular belief, not everyone knows what Pot of Greed does and you have to explain its effect everytime its played.

[@hariodinio]

It draws all five pieces of exodia right?

[@KinjiroTheThunder]

@@hariodinio I thought it banished your opponent's deck face-down?

[@user-by3mc3ue1y]

Just draw 2 more cards. I am 14 years old, but i don't know nothing about the animes after the original Yu-gi-oh! In my country only the orihinal is translated and when we go to the shop for cards we always buy the old ones. Just because we don't know what can the other cards (Syncrho, Xyz, Pendulum and Link) Sory for bad English.

[@silko4042]

R 22 r/woooosh I think. It’s a joke about nobody knowing what it does because everyone always explains it

[@wiseguy1512]

@@KinjiroTheThunder fools it actually allows you to summon all five pieces of exodia from you opponents deck

[@ygkoz]

Tournament player - I banish your obelisk Player - it can’t be effected by any cards. Tournament Player - this card does t target monsters so it’s banished !! Player - it’s not a monster , ITS A GOD!!!

[@yusufbukhari6962]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOINEEDHELPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Xaiff]

Hahaha.. At some point I was struggling to understand "does not target" concept. Thanks for the reminder though. 😂😂😂

[@rossember4653]

*all resources used on obelisk* Attack I play widespread ruin. "Bye obelisk."

[@lorekeeper685]

Player-I have mound of bound creator as the field..

[@petterikippo9863]

Funnily enough a friend of mine played obelisk in his six sams (right after the structure deck came out) and wrecked me multiple times with it.

[@spinorama29]

When I was a kid I always played with my friends based on the rules in the anime. Like most of the normal rules but we could summon monsters face up in defense mode. No cards were banned.

[@MPW2012]

My friends and I were all in agreement. Battle city was the rulebook

[@spinorama29]

Sam Marshall and the best arc

[@alexanderabrashev1366]

Yeah i remember a friend of mine put like 10 ookazis in his deck

[@withheldrathernotsay3324]

“Screw the rules I have money!” -Seto Kaiba

[@davidloza9316]

His power is that he's rich

[@pikagammerpluspizza7478]

"if you don't have a token card that has the same artwork on the card, you can't play that card."

[@Francopersano]

Once a guy tried to call a juudge at. Wcq becouse i was using pokemon cards as tokens lol

[@TheGuyWhoIsSitting]

@@Francopersano "I put a water energy on my Squirtle and attack with Bubble"

[@Medbread]

@@TheGuyWhoIsSitting Sorry dude, my Sky Striker Shizuku has resistance against water attacks. I take half damage.

[@ejmthegreat1309]

@@Medbread with no pokemon left on the field i summon Pikachu and declare a direct attack.

[@GamerGhostRider]

@@theannilators7479 Probably just trying to shark him.

[@MundodasGuitarras]

"what do you mean i can't put a virus card in my opponent's deck?"

[@StrAz0R]

In my school, if you had one of the Egyptian God Cards in your deck, you did not lose from your opponent holding all five Exodia pieces in their hand! Those were the days... :D

[@unsoundmusic8348]

Tbh I can see the reasoning lmao for like two reasons. But nah exodia is an instant ass Whooping unfortunately. I've lost to exodia -_-

[@seanh0001]

Throwback to 2nd grade carrying around the structure deck rule books telling my friends “nah you can’t just play that without tributes.”

[@waterlegend72]

How about the advert for YGO Duel Links? "With no monsters left on the field, I summon Dark Magician" Excuse me, wtf

[@quietguyjosh4643]

pretty sure he was referring to his opponent's field so he could atk directly

[@pakmusastech839]

There is a lot card can be activated to summon dark magician@ lvl5 and above without tribute summon,either from hands,graveyard or removed field....

[@luke-dl8tk]

@@pakmusastech839 it was normal summoned

[@charlescooks9360]

He was talking about his opponents field

[@itsmayo701]

Maybe they were playing season 1 anime rules, where you could summon flame swordsman from your hand without using polimerization, or when you could hide your monsters under water and in the shadows

[@Jet-Black_Cat]

myth: MST negates

[@brendan9734]

I used to think this way when I played physically. All my friends did too and we always misplayed it without knowing.

[@JOKACRAZY]

to this DAY! 17 years ago! i distinctly remember arguing with some wanna-be-gangster-looking kid that MST does NOT negate...

[@EternalAnkh]

I learned this rule playing EDS on the gba 😂

[@garc7127]

This myth is REAL!! Just only with Rage with Eyes of Blue.

[@youknowme2295]

Of course not, it just states, “draw 2 cards”

[@jopat923]

Incredible video! Touched on so many things that people today probably don’t event know still. Love, love, love.

[@mariosalvador9600]

You ended up making me more interested in UNO that I forgot I was watching a YU GI OH video and I WAS DISSAPOINTED. You sold UNO well

[@powerj1771]

I always loved going to a tourney and being told on the first turn "I draw" then having to argue that first player cant draw on their first turn

[@robinanwaldt]

But wait... wasn’t that rule made only a few years ago? I’m pretty sure the official rules back then said that you first draw five cards, then draw another in the draw phase, no matter if you’re the first player or not.

[@TheDucky101]

@@robinanwaldt you are correct

[@jaimereupert4247]

I think it's bull that you're not allowed to draw if you go first. 😠

[@robertfaer4522]

@@jaimereupert4247 it makes it too unbalanced

[@armorfrogentertainment]

Actual old school Yugioh differences: the first player started with six cards in hand, the extra deck was called a fusion deck, you could build a deck as large as you wanted, etc... But no one brings up those.

[@romkin1197]

Uhhh it'd be better to say First turn player could draw 1 card during their Draw Phase.

[@doigt6590]

no, even back in the day the deck limit was 60 cards

[@armorfrogentertainment]

@@doigt6590 that rule was instituted in 2008 or 2009, I believe. Here's a forum post from before then discussing massive decks. www.ccgrealms.com/showthread.php?500908-Can-a-deck-have-over-300-cards/page3

[@romkin1197]

@@doigt6590 Prior to the deck limit, the main deck had no limit, until a person brought a deck that was over 2,000 cards to an event, in which case it was shortly after we got the 60 card limit. Also the Fusion deck had no limit as well.

[@doigt6590]

@@romkin1197 You're speaking of the very early rule concerning main deck size which were very quickly changed. So saying "old school yugioh had" or "back in the day" is rather inaccurate: "Once in the very early history of the game" is more accurate since for most of the old school era, the max was 60 (and not 80, like some like to believe, it fell right to 60). However, even in the old rulebooks the extra deck had a 15 max size. By the way, the guy's deck was 200 cards, not 2,000

[@MarioLuigi0404]

The weird thing about Uno is the official video games disagreed with the social media thing

[@Dalinos]

@dzeeff I was an old school Yu-Gi-Oh player. I lived through it, played on the school bus, went to local tournaments, and it took me 2 years to make my deck. I'm here to say that all your points were spot on, and to share my story. I was...12? 13? (so 2003-2004) when I won my very first local tournament. I played an Exodia deck, with Heart of the Underdog, many normal high defensive monsters (Giant Soldier of Stone, Mystical Elf, Soul Tiger) as my card draw engine, Pot of Greed + Graceful Charity, Raigeki + Dark Hole, 3 copies of Waboku + 3 Level Limit Area B + 3 Gravity Binds, Swords of Revealing Light, Wall of Revealing Light, and the infinite combo of Gearfried the Iron Knight + Butterfly Dagger - Elma + Royal Magical Library, with Kotetsu to search out butterfly dagger and of course, 1 Sangan 1 Witch of the Black Forest 3 Emissary of the Afterlife to fetch up Exodia pieces. This was my deck, I spent 2 years gathering the pieces of it slowly slowly and oh lord it was a blast to play. This was considered a very decent competitive deck, with a clear game-plan, a clear win condition, and consistent results, due to how the deck played out with itself. Gearfried and Royal Magical Library were fine cards that held their own even when they were not used to combo together (1800 beatstick was considered OK, sure we had Vorse Raider and Gemini Elf that went over it, but it was good enough for everything else), Royal Magical Library was a 2,000 defense defender that was basicaly extra copies of Giant Soldier when you didn't draw the other combo pieces. There was a meta, I remember a very strong Water deck that was played using Legendary Ocean and dropping in a 2,400 attack 5 star monster (don't remember the name) as a 4star monster due to Legendary ocean reducing its level by 1. There were other decks too, but I don't remember them that well. Also, Barrel Dragon, a 2600 attack 7star monster from Metal Raiders was considered AMAZING due to its effect that let you destroy monsters on the field. Sure, you had to flip coins, but it was the best we had. The reason Cylinder was considered so good was not because it could 1shot people (duh, we played with 8k points) but because in a meta game of beat-down decks that raced each other, negating 1 attack and dealing the opponent the dmg instead could pull you up ahead in the race JUST enough to win. Lastly, Trap Hole and Acid Trap Hole (the only ones we had) were considered amazing Yu-Gi-Oh cards and were played everywhere, due to the nature of the game being board-centric and the win conditions being getting your Opp's life points to 0. Combo was rare, Burn decks were non existent, archetypes had JUST started appearing. Keep up the good work mah dude.

[@TheSLashera]

That was probably the best time to play. Admittedly I never played past this period, so I could be wrong but seeing what has become of the game I think I would stand behind my opinion.

[@LazyLee]

basically, the anime mislead a whole generation of people who still won't shut up about it

[@gabrielh584]

the anime and the manga came out years before the konami game, konani changed the rules to make it more balanced, the anime itself is not to blame for the rules have changed

[@MrCheeze]

Well, the manga/anime rules came first... them they changed the rules later, both in-universe and for the real life release.

[@LeonOrenValentine]

*#lolz*

[@adamxue6096]

@@gabrielh584 Not.. really... The ANIME didn't. Not for OCG anyway. It kinda? Did? For TCG? Because TCG did come later than OCG. But the MANGA did, EVEN for OCG. Basically, Konami jumped on the fact that Yugioh became popular, and kinda tried to salvage out actual rules and such from the original manga. Then Anime, trying to be somewhat consistent with the Manga and the actual card game.... Yeah, it went all over the place.

[@chaseviking5096]

Pretty much. I use to play Yu Gi Oh and I came across a lot of people who got pissed when I would throw the rule book down to prove what they were doing was against the rules. I plaid bybthe rules not by what the anime did or what others thought was fair.

[@wheelotime2581]

Dzeeff: just because you don't know it doesn't mean it didn't happen Like the thing that happened in Tienanmen Square on june 4th, 1989?

[@JamesAColemanFan]

The man offering his lunch to the tank drivers as a thank you for their services? Sent from my Huawei device.

[@armorfrogentertainment]

Western Propaganda REEEEEEEEEE

[@rescuerex7031]

1989 didn't have a June 4th -Chinese Government

[@nicholas5942]

That was when Family Guy first aired, right?

[@rubedog961]

Welp, there goes all of Dzeef's Chinese subscribers.

[@DGzCarbon]

I remember when Gemini Elf came out. It was nuts

[@samajama4526]

My dude you make some really good and well thought out points in this video. I’m glad KZbin put this on my recommended. Liked and subbed :)

[@Rebellions]

"There was no metagame!" Mechanicalchaser beatdown: "...Ok..."

[@davidnaghipour2033]

Unfortunately, only a rare few players were lucky to pull 1 from a tourney pack :( little lone get 3

[@rescuerex7031]

Before that Summoned Skull Beatdown

[@godspeedhero3671]

The meta back then was you are either playing Blue Eyes, Summoned Skull, or both and if you didn't, you lost.

[@Rebellions]

@@godspeedhero3671 You had to commit to one because of type inconsistency. Blue-Eyes relied *heavily* on Lord of D and flute while also trying to find ways to even GET the damn dragons to appear in your hand, throwing in a random summoned skull on top of that hurt you as far as I remember because if you were against Summoned Skull he was hitting it with Witch ASAP so you REALLY didnt have room because Witch wasnt all that helpful in Dragons to use Skull as a backup. My own memory might be failing me though because frankly I played casual during upper deck so I'm using hindsight.

[@tsukuyomimagi9968]

Yata-lock and Chaos Control say hello

[@Chengmaster]

Screw the rules, my voice gives me super strength!

[@dennisnguyen2847]

My hair gives me the power to defy gravity!

[@QuintMarvel]

For this guy, he's talking about YGO 10 years ago. I was playing 15 years ago, and I can tell you there was a Metagame, and what was called "Chaos" with Chaos Emperor Dragon, and Chaos Soldier, Envoy of the End, was the first really solid, dominant archetype. Once that strategy was cemented, everything else was like a Rogue deck - Exodia Decks, Life Gain Deck, Warrior Decks, Fairy Decks, Fiend Decks, "Skill Drain" Decks, FIre Decks, Legendary Ocean Decks, Machine Decks, Dragon Decks, Spellcaster Decks, just general Beatdown Decks and Control Decks. There's always been a MetaGame.

[@boliver30]

First was beat down. Then burn. Chaos definitely defined the new meta when the cards came out

[@QuintMarvel]

@@boliver30 In our Meta, burn always remained niche. I wouldn't have considered "beat down" as actual archetype - it was just doing what the game expected you to do, attack with monsters.

[@undefeateddynasty7974]

@@QuintMarvel he's a kid, he wouldn't know

[@mujiescomedy279]

Stanger_in_the_Alps 2006 is nearly 15 years ago...

[@JOKACRAZY]

I was the Fiend King with my trusty Necrofear and Ha Des!

[@nickroitman6743]

I had a Friend who really loved Forbidden Memories and when I told him I had real physical cards he wanted to play. His first action was trying to fuse, obviously

[@Tagperson]

When I was a kid I thought I could use my monsters to attack my own monsters to trigger effects lol

[@SShadowHeart]

The Tagperson 🤦‍♂️

[@heartman6314]

If you think about it, that probably should be legal, but alas it ain't

[@bluefable3416]

@@heartman6314 No it shouldn't, i can just imagine how many FTK and broken combo out of that.

[@jatraveyonscott7541]

The Tagperson I did too don’t f eel bad

[@rumovonzamonien]

@@bluefable3416 It wouldnt allow any new FTKs, since you dont have a battle phase on the very first turn to begin with.

[@TheFinalChapters]

Man-Eater Bug. That is all.

[@alemisak5222]

Flip summon! Your monster attck trigger my effect! XD

[@felixwankel3989]

Princess of tsurugi.

[@Soybean13]

Wall of illusion

[@JT5555]

kinky.

[@scrubthegod780]

Snow man eater

[@BigHailFan]

Funny thing about those uno "rules" is those are not the rules in the uno video game where you can indeed have to draw until having the right card and can stack draw+ cards

[@Zazume_]

It's actually a very similar thing for Yu-Gi-Oh. In the DS game "GX Spirit Caller" for example, Ra actuall had the effect from the anime, where it would gain the ATK and DEF points of the monsters tributed for it. Some games even included anime only cards, for example Tag Force 4 for PSP included the trap card "Cursed Prison", which was otherwise anime only and basically an Instant Fusion for synchro monsters.

[@WRL13]

duels took forever in the anime because people always bragged about how their monster is virtually invincible, and how they will rule the world. furthermore, they always filled the episodes with flashbacks, sometimes replaying a scene from the previous episode or sooner, sometimes replaying a flashback they've played several times, and in one instance, they played a flashback within a flashback.

[@yugiohdeloestepr]

5 Myths About Old School Yugioh 1-4. It wasn't the anime 5. There was a meta

[@mannyheart5320]

Now let's turn this in to a 14min video 😎👌

[@davidwerner2332]

But what's a top tier deck build for UNO tcg right now?

[@garrethizer6738]

Personally I use a skip deck Though there is the legendary +20 card Once you gather 5 +4 cards you in your hand, you win the game But that's a cheese deck

[@davidwerner2332]

@@MasterQuestMaster I'd still play Exodia for sure no questions asked.

[@denistuohy2535]

The travel size water proof one duh

[@EarnestVictory]

All 0s. Points are counted by the value of a card - with an all 0 deck, your opponent can never gain a single point, no matter how many cards you draw.

[@camsterdam3896]

Haha Haha... Choked extra hard on that one...

[@p43j77]

For the English version of Yu-Gi-Oh! these may be true. But in fact at the beginning of OCG Yu-Gi-Oh! in Japan, the first rule book had a very different ruleset. i.e. no tribute is needed for any monster, only one spell/trap card can be played per turn etc. After a few rules change they have "Master Rule" set in place and we use it until today.

[@chonchjohnch]

Okay, what language are we speaking right now?

[@truebliss6621]

Old school lore: when Im about to lose I draw exactly what I need!

[@EnclaveColonel]

For Atem at least it was a legit power he had, displayed in some games by the Destint Draw ability

[@DLH112]

Technicality: Obelisk was played in some frog monarch decks in 2010.

[@Dugga49]

That’s true, I actually ran it in some locals. Wasn’t as good as agents and whatnot that was popular at the time, but it wasn’t complete garbage either

[@kyrios0307]

@@Dugga49 Agents were popular in 2011 (Even won World Championship 2011). I mained that deck! Master Hyperion is such a beast!

[@rosehearttoxic1691]

Frog decks are pretty strong

[@vrydmason9763]

As far back as 2003 Yugioh clearly had dominant metagame strategies including early beatdown decks and eventually Yata-lock control decks, both of which also featured a "meta" picks for all of the broken early spell and trap cards that were in practically every decklist. A year later, Chaos Emperor Dragon and Black Luster Soldier were so dominant that 85% of decks at the 2004 U.S. Nationals used strategies centered around both of these cards (kperovic.com/metagame/yugioh5da2.html?tabid=33&ArticleId=228). If people complaining about "metadecks" dominating in modern Yugioh tried playing competitively back in the early days they could have easily gone through an entire tournament without ever seeing more than one type of deck! The whole reason Konami made a Forbidden list was to try to stop these sort of early dominant cards from effectively being mandatory in every single competitive deck, and the principles for adding cards to this list are still the same now as they were back then. Like dzeeff said, people who played casually may have not been aware of this because the lack of social media and online analysis of the game, but the competitve meta in early Yugioh absolutely existed and was arguably even more dominating that it has ever been in modern sets.

[@drago939393]

Your comment got me thinking: how far back can someone go and get a meta deck of years gone by and still have a fairly competitive deck in the modern game?

[@QuasarEE]

People were definitely complaining about "cookie cutter" and "deck-listed" meta decks on the pojo forums back in 2005. I was a participant in some of those discussions at the time. Of course that was niche compared to the kind of reach you get with KZbin etc.

[@howard_blast]

The Japanese card game actually split the rule set between "normal" and "expert" rule sets. The normal ruleset was more similar to the early games. No tributes for summoning, only one spell card can be activated per turn, there was no concept of "phases" either. Obviously, eventually the "expert" ruleset became the only ruleset.

[@breadeater1194]

I think that's a thing from the manga. I know before the Konami game we know existed, there was another yugioh card game with its own cards released to promote the season 0 movie though.

[@howard_blast]

@@breadeater1194 No, it's part of the actual modern Japanese Konami OCG. I know Japanese and have read the orignal rule books.

[@matttaylor1449]

Been playing since 2002. We did play at school and use alternative rules, but we did it for fun, not to be competitive. Me and my friends all knew the rules, but chose to bend them for the fun of variety. For example, we often had 2 on 2 team games or free for all games of 3-8 players. In these game we always established the rule set before the game. We’d sometimes have a non player act as a game master, who would establish their own narrative of the match, and introduce random effects, such as “X player has struck a gold mine, then now draw two cards per turn... 5 turns later, oh no! That gold mine ran out, X player can no longer draw.” Haha, it was fun.

[@themagican5797]

I'm still confused, can you make a "Commenters don't understand Uno" video

[@essential67]

The Magican instructions too hard dick got stuck in the fan

[@TheQuickyouknow]

I activate MTS to negate the upload of this video

[@raseruuu3742]

Ah, Mystical Typhoon Space. Possibly the worst place to be in the galaxy.

[@Boxsteam]

You mean MST?

[@gao4605]

Mystical Tace Spyphoon

[@Aznrocky]

It destroys but does not negate 😂 nice try tho.. Bub

[@jayrodm643]

I use magic cylinder to no u, now you are negated. And I also activate the spell card pot of greed, this allows me to draw two cards from my deck

[@drewbabe]

I remember as a kid, starting off trying to make out the rules of the game by watching the anime, because I was too young to grok the rulebook that came with the starter decks. Between me and my friends, we had a real tough time figuring things out. It didn't help that the Pokemon TCG had much easier to understand rules, and we often projected that game's rules onto Yu-Gi-Oh! (like water attributes having an Atk boost against fire attributes.) We didn't even realize that fusion monsters went into their own deck until a year or two later when we got a little older and started being able to grok the rulebook. If you thought old-school fusions were bad because of the inherent -2 before, now imagine how bad they'd be if they were garnets in your main deck! 😂

[@deissthibaut9632]

The three first points you made can be explain with the manga's version of the card game (that first appear in the volume 2, chap. 9). The 2000 LP, the absence of tributes, the face-up defense monsters where in place for this version of "Duel Monster". The focus was more around the "shadow realm" punishment games, and less on the card game itself. That's why there were so much difference when they discovered they could take this part of Yugioh and marchandise it with clear rules that allows multiple strategy, plus center the whole story around it.

[@Pepsiman2006]

I'm super old school. I actually read the instructions and card when I learned to play vs mimicking the show or making my own rules.

[@user-ir4xf3qr6f]

Why was this difficult for others?? The true childhood problem.

[@TrueWhovian82]

I like what you say about the meta in this video. I find it hilarious when people say, "Oh there's only one competitive strategy nowadays. Back in my day all cards were viable." And I don't think I would have understood this better if not for the fact that I just finished in a "Critter Format" tournament today. For those who don't know, this format consists of the first two booster packs and Starter Deck Yugi/Kaiba. The card pool is so hilariously limited, that everyone's decks looked almost exactly the same. I don't think there was more than a 10 card difference between any deck in that tournament, and I'm rounding up my estimate. Now I found this format very fun, but it would get so stale after a few times because you can't really do anything different. Basically you have two options: 30 cards plus 10 power houses, or 30 cards plus 10 control cards.

[@QuasarEE]

When we used to have casual play sessions at the local library you'd of course get all types coming, and that included tons of kids who wanted to play like they did at home or on the playground or else they wouldn't engage at all. I took on a kid one time who had a 100-card deck (pretty sure it was really just his whole collection stacked up vertically) with more than 3 copies of some cards, several illegal/fabricated cards including Egyptian gods, and who liked to play with no tribute rules. Trying to take on that mess with my tournament-legal Chaos deck was interesting to say the least.

[@LittleRaAnime]

this is why we gotta clarify when talking about "oldschool" yugioh and "schoolyard" yugioh, like, I wish I got to play oldschool, but I lived somewhere there wasn't really much of any card game tournament presence even for locals. I was lucky the people I played with tried to actually pay attention to stuff in the rulebook if it was brought up