E.L.P.O. Barefoot Trimming Protocol

[@susanflowers6282]

I'm so glad you don't dog out the whole inside of the hoof, like I've seen other's do. I've never understood why they would do that! Yours looks great!

[@susanflowers6282]

I hate spell correct 😠 not DOG OUT! DIG OUT!

[@nikki11111]

You can click the faint 3 circles at the right bottom corner of your screen and click “edit” you can change dog out to dig out, you’re welcome.

[@susanflowers6282]

Thank you for the advice, but I'm watching this on my Kindle, not my P.C.

[@valcurley5010]

For the newly barefoot horse you must also relieve the quarter walls to prevent flaring and splitting, and encourage thicker wall growth. In longterm barefoot horse the quarters must always be relieved to prevent thinning and cracking of the quarter wall.

[@monicavieira630]

Thank. You for the thorough explanation. ELPO more recent video with the 5 exemples is amazing but I understand why comments have been restricted 😂 Just wanted to thank you

[@sharonbatson634]

I , like so many others who have commented, would also like to know what that great measuring tool is! A divider? I would also like to see the hoof from the farrier's perspective for once! Great video.

[@aussiegrace]

Would love to learn how to do my own horses feet. Five of them. Farrier I have had twice is totally crap for the price he charges. This is how I want to do them.

[@lilliannolan725]

Didn't leave much of a heel at all did you?

[@Phoenixspin]

Does this guy also work on humans? I need some nail work.

[@kalenarandall6322]

Steve, what is the compass type tool you are using? Thank you.

[@MrDziurkacz]

This is very impressive! Could you please tell me how the device which you use for hoof measurement is called? Looks like very useful tool!

[@hahnsm]

I know this is 8 months late but here ya go! www.jhforge.com/hoofeval/hoofeval.php Lots of the ELPO guys use these

[@angelapierred6461]

A divider compass?

[@DWhite-el4ih]

Believe it or not you can learn more from the amateurs in the comment section of a professional's video than the professional himself. Amazing.

[@Remyrem888]

100%😂

[@kodrannall7929]

is it just me, or does it look underrun?

[@artemisiagentileschi2400]

What is the rule of thumb? Purpose of placing your thumb under the rasp?

[@yourbarista4154]

Artemisia Gentileschi that was for the angle of the breakover I believe.

[@brianbelliveau5551]

Nicely done ✅

[@wadeIattwood01]

That's a nice dry foot. Here in New Zealand hooves never get this harsh and firm. Always so soft and moist 😕

[@marshapicken8229]

the toe is off center and the pillars are long...you also cause under run heels when you trim the heels out...this is not a very good trim

[@AMQTRHORSE]

Is there a list of certified barefoot trimmers somewhere? Vermont

[@LamenessPreventionOrg]

There is a hoof care provider search option in the support area of www.lamenessprevention.org

[@jennymason9509]

I need some help asap these draft horses need help badly

[@clintburris5520]

Do you measure the hoof angle?

[@sacredstallion9003]

Very nice explaining amd technical

[@michaelodonnell4119]

You guys just don't get it, horseshoeing is instinct not mapping, like I said , I have fixed alot of elpo horses!

[@heathermaich8966]

great system. from the side view at the end it looks like the quarters are also weight bearing,can you clarify please

[@dianetoeniskoetter4973]

totally agree. horrible form for function

[@l.d.b.r5141]

The Orange Card is only available for those who are doing the certification. Or open to the public

[@alexortizz]

I know this is 10 months later but if you search it up there is a pdf with it that you can print out or just read

[@l.d.b.r5141]

@@alexortizz you don't say yeah well go check it out thanks.

[@l.d.b.r5141]

@@alexortizz hey I'm looking for it but I'm having hell right now if you could help me out?

[@1lesa242]

You teach really well. Thank you

[@dawnatishauser4223]

Well that explains why most horses have long toes and no heels.

[@susanflowers6282]

Are you saying you do this MAPPING with each and every hoof? If so, sorry but that's crazy!

[@RT1407-e8l]

It’s amazing how horses stand patiently while you do their hoofs. They must realise their getting a nice pedicure and leave you to get on with it.

[@rachaelbrown7771]

Sometimes they don't...my daughter n law has a mare that absolutely freaks out when you try to do her feet. I think she came from an abuse situation before my daughter n law got her. She also hasn't been consistently desensitized to it.

[@fightfordesires]

Is he using a spoon to trim the frog or

[@joearagon3454]

(?) If I trim the frog down flat, too much, how will that affect the health of the hoof? Horse is young and healthy not working.

[@Bendidormweirdos]

If you trim the frog down to much your taking away the natural pressure points of the foot away the frog takes about 50% of the weight

[@vikramsinghrajawat729]

Super sr👌👌👌👌👍

[@susancroft3734]

Thank you so much. You have helped me a lot....!!!

[@hellboy700r]

Easy to learn a book by heart but being a good farrier is a total different reality... good map out but not too impressed by the trimmer

[@kathrinlarsson4164]

Why did you put the heel so low? I learned that its not good for the foot.

[@TheLindahar]

You are correct. with each trim they will trim the heel out more and more. While the toe just get's longer and higher. This trim is not good.

[@cualquiercosa5201]

Linda Harris, i think its actually the opposite effect, as the part of the hoof thats going to grows more, is the most stimulated one.. So if you rocker the toe, you decrease the stimulation so it doesn't grow that much.. That's what I understand.. Isn't it like that? Excuse my english, i speak spanish

[@pacobarr9710]

fail to see the reason to rasp the outside of the wall, that is not the way to get rid of flare

[@yourbarista4154]

paco barr how do you get rid of flare?

[@yourbarista4154]

D Billycheck 😂

[@ABDR4]

Now that I’ve been trimming my own horses for several years, I understand better why the ELPO farrier I used to use just made my horses worse. Those heels are way too low, and it looked like he lowered the low one even more than the high one. Looking at the foot on the ground, I’d suspect it was trimmed to have a NPA. Everything about that hoof looks like the heels hurt. The frogs are weak and the hoof is contracted. Not prioritizing a biomechanically correct heel first landing is why the toes keep going forward. Flattening the toe just drives the walls outward, weakening the whole structure of the hoof. Thinning the frog also creates discomfort. This is all just an overly complicated approach that ignores what the hoof is trying to say. If I was trimming, I would’ve just cleaned up the frog, addressed any heel imbalance and then beveled the wall on the bottom. If you learn to read the hoof and understand the biomechanics, it’s amazing how quickly the hoof can transform.

[@bmc06239]

I think you missed the point...they are starting with a severely contracted heel with an almost correct toe length. This distortion is very difficult to reverse. The palmer angle for P3 was not trimmed negative, I would guess it finished at about 5 degrees. I think ELPO's approach to mapping has merit and is useful for the beginner, as well as the experienced trimmer. That being said where they go wrong is at some point (when the heels are correct palmer) the bars will not terminate at the widest part of the hoof, but instead point to the apex of the frog. If your ELPO trimmer failed your horse it is because he did not understand this. Most of the first ELPO farriers where trained with "natural balance" shoes. While this shoe does a great job reversing long toe it must be transitioned out of to avoid or reverse contracted heels. Sadly lack of this knowledge often leaves a hoof that looks exactly like the one in the video. Still I don't think it's the farrier's fault, most have a misunderstanding of hoof-fall and what is required to obtain a correct hoof-fall. This is why I developed a training regiment that teaches the horse to move correctly...I call it "Barefoot Movement Therapy"...you can learn more by emailing me [e-mail]...bruce

[@yourbarista4154]

Bruce I just sent you an email.

[@yueqian12]

I think so

[@yueqian12]

abdr4 is right

[@Nik-gc9vl]

I never used a farrier that was certified in the trimming style used in this video, but I did have one that consistently lamed my horse after every trim and reset of her shoes. To the point at the last time she was trimmed by that professional I had to give my mare a week off along with packing her feet. I was already delving into the hoof world and seeking out education on feet in general, and I quickly realized the function of my horses feet was so horribly compromised that I couldn't wait any longer to get the shoes off to start healing her. Long story short we are over 2yrs into her barefoot journey and she's been the most consistently sound now especially after trims the entire 12yrs I've owned her. I made some mistakes like anyone but am proud to say no 'professional' has touched her in the entire 2 yrs I've taken over and she's consistently only gotten sounder. Which also brought me to the comment section after seeing the technique and slightly cringing over the amount of heel height taken in proportion to toe and quarter height. Granted this horse looks like the shoes were literally just taken off, and whoever had been trimming and shoeing had no agenda to take the toe back. So, the horse doesn't have much of that natural concavity and thickening of the frog & digital cushion you'd want to see in a healthy functional hoof that would lend to the appearance of the foots natural arch with the quarters slightly raised from the ground. But, since this horse is fresh out of metal rim shoes and not trimmed for appropriate leverage reduction at the toe I'm not sure I would've taken much more toe than the trimmer did; As backing the toe does take quite a bit of time so the internal structures can start to adjust. But, I agree that all the measuring for a mediocre trim was too complicated and didn't really take into account what the structures are saying. It's pretty expected for a freshly barefoot hoof to change a fair amount in the first few weeks, and allowing the natural exfoliation to resume really should be one of the aspects at the forefront of the trimmers mind when doing the first setup trim especially if the horse is resuming work immediately. As soon as he started to hit that functional material aka the solid shavings of white line and a bit of sole around the bars had me cocking my head since he'd just mentioned not taking away functional material is important. Since to many podiatrists and trimmers know that it doesn't require getting to "waxy" material for it to be functional; That any material that isn't ready to crumble or flake away with minimal coaxing generally shouldn't be removed.

[@kathyannegilmartin3187]

You rasped the heel down 😟.

[@Shewolfen]

I like that you didn't over trim the frog and cleaned up the bars and also left sole around the apex of the frog but to me the angles look wrong and way too much toe. it doesn't match the pastern. too much leverage on that toe wall and you are headed for laminitis !

[@tinkerbell4482]

You need to sharpen your tools. You shouldn’t be pulling it that hard on the frog. Your just hacking into it rather then slicing and shaping it

[@picturesqueponies]

D Billycheck aren’t you hilarious

[@adamsnyman2995]

Sharpen your frog knife dude! Why you hacking away at the frog?? It must be a smooth clean cut

[@callystanova196]

D Billycheck That blade is literally used most often to trim the frog on a horse...

[@Charlotte-wv1dl]

2:30 I swear to god he said “find my nipple first”

[@charlenegibbons8616]

Please give that horse some treats. He was holy patient!

[@iliveinyourcloset6287]

Charlene Gibbons god no, make your horse extremely spoiled and probably get bad habits, also make him pushy.

[@pawsforeva4065]

He is

[@MushtakAhmad456]

Hi

[@thomaskondas2799]

Too much time wasted drawing lines. Heels should be higher if going barefoot.

[@codyovnicek3736]

Most courses are located in Penrose, CO

[@jerseycowboy1]

Need to become a hoof engineer before you trim a hoof! Wonder if that is an old practice from the 1800s

[@Himothy474]

He learned on the internet

[@l.d.b.r5141]

So the stages of a soul is flaky overgrown, Chucky barefoot, waxie sore feet,

[@lainahiller2527]

Looks like live sole is being removed.

[@lauralauren6432]

Low heel=Long toe. This is going to be Worse as the weeks pass. If it had been a hind hoof it would maybe have been ok. Not front feet.

[@torrescesar71]

You need better tools

[@apontefamily8236]

More like the A.L.P.O dog food trimming protocol " now that I killed the frog with a dull rusty knife I'm going draw a pretty picture and then rasp heel away and ignore the toe

[@yourbarista4154]

Aponte Family he explained his rationale for the toe, what would you say he should’ve done differently?

[@yourbarista4154]

D Billycheck I appreciate that. I’m new to this and I thought the frog cutting was fine myself so thanks for the feedback.

[@slowedhits2506]

Mexicans love horses.

[@yourbarista4154]

Slowed Hits they also love tacos.

[@Open2OpenUT]

Terrible job OMG! Try sharpening your tools mate and you might get better results, somehow I doubt it as he’s just not good at the practical work.

[@bearriverhorsefarm]

Nice job!

[@michaelodonnell4119]

I spent a Lot of time fixing up your guys shoeing and trimming, ido the same concept but have a better instinct, you guys don't, mapping a foot is stupid, if you have to do that you have no instinct for shoeing and trimming

[@scrapenbass493]

Brokeback mountain

[@dianetoeniskoetter4973]

too flat for a horse just out of shoes. will make the horse sore for sure

[@ELNS97]

“Now that I’ve exfoliated this frog” You mean ripped at it with a butter knife leaving gashed up?

[@tltsw]

First off sharpen your tools brother, you should hack his frog like that. That knife should slice through that frog easy. FYI give horses a break

[@lauralauren6432]

Now a Lot of Women Will Try this at home. Bad idea.

[@cagey1415]

Not the women! 😂

[@kristinhladysh3540]

MUSTANG ROLL?! Not just for the toe!