e189: VERSUS - LOSI XXT vs. Team Associated RC10T3 Stadium Truck Shoot Out...Who Wins?

In our 1st episode of "VERSUS" the Losi XXT takes on the RC10T3 to see which Stadium Truck has the fastest average lap time.

[@Infindibulator1]

I had a XXT as a kid back in the day, and this video brought back loads of memories of me racing my buddies (they had a mix of LXTs and RC10Ts). It was a very capable truck back in the day, I stepped up to the Losi from a Tamiya and the difference was unreal. Fun times!!!

[@anthonyv2858]

Love this new segment!

[@tallguygaming409]

Sweet stay tuned for more

[@robfreemantle9728]

I remember these in my early years of r/c racing always wanted a stadium truck, but got the xxcr kinwald edition a few years later

[@JohnB-le2pi]

Great concept- I loved this video! More!!!! I have (6) T3's in various states of running/restoration, so I was happy at the outcome. But I do have a Junior T (my 1st Losi car ever) on it's way to me in the mail, so.......

[@RCRetro]

Thats awesome. Enjoy the Junior T my friend.

[@ratzerman]

Wow... this brought back so many memories. I was a Losi kid and my best friend was Team Associated. My JR-XT usually smoked his RC10T... when it was wasn't broken, which was often I've owned Tupperware that had tougher plastic than Losi back then. 😆

[@semperatis]

I always liked the RC10T3 as a racing ST,it was my favourite.

[@frankiehernandez9465]

Love when you run the vintage cars. Maybe you should do a "Vintage Race Series" racing only using vintage R/C's.

[@tallguygaming409]

Hahaha

[@derricksazrc3411]

Man that was a tasty nibble of the past. Those trucks were King of all tracks and Hobby store counter tops. Getting the transponder is a nice touch man you make me want one and I don’t even have a track lol

[@tallguygaming409]

Stop by and use my track 😁

[@ggwbrc]

nice video buddy very informative

[@GearWorksRc]

Wish I could join your guys race club if I lived close to your area I have a T3 and Rc10 B goldpan myself I keep mine brushed as well.

[@andyrobinsonrc2480]

Loved that video , I used to have a rc10t3, my first TA kit , even back in the day the Losi was a little more fragile on the front end than the T2/T3, you could by alloy front bulkheads and a beefier plastic one as well a bit like RPM stuff, anywho great stuff

[@RCRetro]

Thanks for sharing that info. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for the comment and your support.

[@dannywalker6279]

Wow I been looking for a channel like this for years, thanks would love to see a battle of like Traxxas trx1,top cat etc etc

[@tallguygaming409]

Well we will be doing may battles this was only first in the series. Check out the race series from last season and rest of the channel

[@RCRetro]

Glad you found us. Enjoy the videos. Lots of great future content on the way...

[@kattmandu]

That track is amaze-balls! I need one in my backyard.

[@tallguygaming409]

You do its tons of fun... just keeping it maintained is a pain

[@mattiasrc]

Two legends on the track. This VS is gonna be some fun and interesting new content to the channel.

[@tallguygaming409]

Yeah we already have some more ideas coming out as well as more vs videos

[@nikkoLBSF]

You know that the rc10 is a copy cat of the losi xxtcr

[@cygnusa3772]

Back in the 90s I was the only one running Associated at my local track. Everyone else was drooling over and running Losi from the LXT, XX, and XXT. I consistently beat all of them with my RC10 Worlds car and RC10T2. Ran both in the modified class.

[@jw33]

Man, that XXT looks damn good. It seemed like it just couldn't get turned as quick and pointing in the right direction as the RC10T3 could. I'm the same way about the HW1060 and brushed motors in almost everything, but I just can't go back to using nimh after using lipo. The lipos are such are game changer when it comes to weight, punch, and performance.

[@tallguygaming409]

Both trucks ran good aris t3 had more punch and at times too much punch too much grip and it would have fast laps but overall less consistent then the xxt that was alot easier to drive in my opinion. Im happy with my xxt it may not get hot lap of the day but ill deff find my way in the winner circle with it mark my words.

[@thegreattreon0177]

That Losi turns on a dime!

[@tallguygaming409]

Turns on a dime and made change haha

[@IndigoPowerForce]

Nice one bud!!!! T3 ftw! I have the Thunder Tiger ST TTR its the same chassi as the AE RC10T3 with cheaper shocks and tires but its the exact same car its sure is a fighter from the vintage past. I'm waiting for some Kyosho action like Ultima ST, XRT from the same era!

[@tallguygaming409]

Id love to see them trucks too but i dont own them 😭

[@IndigoPowerForce]

@@tallguygaming409 yeah that is always the f problem Harry! very nice buggy btw

[@tallguygaming409]

Only the xxt is mine my t3 looks alot better then ari trash t3 haha. But yeah always on the lookout for more classic rc so maybe one day them 2 trucks will find a new home here.

[@IndigoPowerForce]

@@tallguygaming409 yeah old ladies don't like bumps...I felt that one many times.. edit by mistake I wrote xxt it's not the correct is phoenix xt ttr

[@michaelchristensen6884]

Why not the XXT vs T2? Closer release times.

[@RCRetro]

Your absolutely right but we didn't have a T2. We work with what we had. If we ever get one, we definitely can do a versus of the T2 v XXT. Thanks for your comment and support.

[@michaelchristensen6884]

@@RCRetro Didn't realized you didn't have a T2. Sorry.

[@RCRetro]

@@michaelchristensen6884 No worries. Thanks for the comment. Great content coming your way. Thanks for the support

[@zegelx_472]

What is the front and rear locknut size for t3

[@irritablearchitect]

Good idea for a series, Ari.

[@tallguygaming409]

Yeah might not have been his idea 🤫

[@RCRetro]

I cant take all the credit. I do collaborate with Harry. We kick around some ideas....

[@tallguygaming409]

We stole this idea from a guy then murdered him

[@RCRetro]

@@tallguygaming409 you ended up murdering him....?

[@betheleskimo9680]

Had a good time watching the video, but I think a xxt vs rc10t or a xxt cr vs rc10t2 or a rc10t3 would be more of an even run.

[@tallguygaming409]

We used what we had available the cars we will be using will be close enuff or maybe not close at all 🤷‍♂️

[@chasingwaves11]

I was hoping you had a Novak Duster II speed controler in them keeping it vintage stayle lol trinity made some nice motors .. J Concepts was not around yet Jason Was still driving for Team AE back then lol Gill losi Jr made a few awesome cars I also and love my Losi GTX nitro car ! Lol that was s cool when that came out lol I remember it came with a Gill Losin Jr VHS tape on how to tune your new GTX lol wicked cool !!! Who remembers that !!! Show hands !!! If your old like me lol

[@Nlangkirby135]

The fig? Wouldn’t the Trig (as in trigger finger) be better?

[@tallguygaming409]

Its the guys name since birth 🤷‍♂️

[@Nlangkirby135]

@@tallguygaming409 makes sense… thanks

[@tallguygaming409]

Haha trig is a good one thou

[@Shane-Singleton]

Cool video. Not surprised to see that XXT suffer that specific failure. Unfortunately the plastics from the day don't age very well. I've got a few XXXT's but I don't even really want to drive them for fear of breakages. That front bulkhead fitting was a common failure point for the XXT's. Interestingly even though I really love the Losi stuff my first stadium truck was a T3. It was excellent.

[@tallguygaming409]

Yeah my fiirst truck was a rc10t but i loved both that and my xxt back in the day and now i own each truck today and run them both.

[@Shane-Singleton]

@@tallguygaming409 I've got a few old Losi trucks sitting on the shelf. one XXT and a few XXXT MF's. I've got an old almost perfect Junior T and an LST (I think it's an LST) as well. I've been meaning to clean out the storage unit and move most of it. Will probably keep the XXX'T's and put the rest up on Marketplace.

[@tallguygaming409]

Let me know the rc retro team should get first crack at them 🤷‍♂️

[@tallguygaming409]

I always wanted a junior t

[@Shane-Singleton]

@@tallguygaming409 get in touch with me on Facebook. I posted in your thread there

[@bradkalman2353]

I'm curious do any of you even own a lipo or brushless motor I know you don't race with them but have you have any of them?

[@tallguygaming409]

I own a brushless but no lipo

[@RCRetro]

I own a Traxxas Slash 4x4 and Traxxas Maxx both are not featured on the channel...hence "Retro". I do have a brushless set up in my Tamiya Astute and I have the Venom Lipo batteries that look like Nimhs that fit in Tamiyas. I just dont use them on the channel or when racing on the port royal raceway.

[@RCRetro]

I meant a traxxas Rustler 4x4 .... not a slash

[@AvianSolutions]

Wow this takes me back, I used to race the XXT, same truck and my friend had a new at the time T3 just out. The XXT was a better car to drive from what I remember it was more forgiving, and since we were 12, it was the better truck.

[@tecnica2001]

Hey, That Antonymous driver looks familiar, Harry “The Fig” he really dislikes sardines🤷🏻 just saying😁 Awesome video guys, thank you 😁👍

[@tallguygaming409]

I wasnt even there when he filmed 🤷‍♂️

[@RCRetro]

Dont know what you're talking about... Harry is not "The Fig." LOL...

[@josephcarrera3953]

Beach Cliff sardines

[@tallguygaming409]

Joe u have some? Lets put it on some.pizza next time

[@popeb69]

Great content! I wonder why the XXT is double the price of the RC10t3?

[@RCRetro]

It seems that all vintage Losi costs a premium price these days. While vintage RC10 stuff is expensive... Losi is catching top dollar. Sorry about the super late response. Tuff to keep up with the comments these days but thanks for your support.

[@RFVCXR200R]

9:41 the music sounds a LOT like the chord progression for Back in the Village by Iron Maiden "White flag's shot to ribbons. The truce is black and burned"

[@jongonegone1262]

in the era of those 2 trucks, losi won more races at the club level and had many national wins with the losi xx truck, associated t3 was the more difficult setup, to keep up with the losi xx. i see this video as driver error. competing rival brands of rc is a good idea. now put a 10×1 brushed motor in each and let the dirt hit the fence.

[@tallguygaming409]

You gunna stop by and clean the fence after 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@nhmtrhd]

I still have both my 10T3 and XXT from the 90's. I raced both and they were very competitive trucks. My fav was the Associated. The metal chassis had a different feel to me. I wacked them both hard on the track and bashing. I never saw a Losi bulkhead break under normal aggressive and conditions. Was it brittle or made with sub standard plastic? Anyways thanks for your vid and hard work. 😃

[@jongonegone1262]

in that era of rc you left out the kyosho pro-x and ultima stadium truck, those were always battleing with losi and associated. next video top 3 brands battle.

[@RCRetro]

thanks for the comment. At the moment we are using what we have. If we ever get our hands on one of those, we''ll put it up against the XXT or T3. Thanks for your support.

[@Mr1stlevel]

Dude like rain in the desert a new RC Retro video

[@tallguygaming409]

Every wed as long as ari dont slack in editing

[@RCRetro]

Wednesday is the day... 1:00am Eastern Time...always....

[@mattskinner4153]

Hello! I have both the RC10 T3 and T4 that I recently acquired and they both have the stock nylon wheel nuts. It looks like you have metal nuts on the front axles. If so, can you please let me know what size they are? Most likely from a hardware store. Thanks for the retro channel! It's awesome! I too, am a retro guy and run brushed! Ha!

[@scottkernan949]

This awesome I still have my xxt and rc10T2

[@jamescarter7620]

I new which one was going to win... there is one thing you forgot to talk about.i saw it right when you showed us the truck.and the special word is .. Camber

[@dannywalker6279]

Rc10 world's car vs Traxxas trx1 talon would be a sick matchup, trx1 was a bad çar so smooth and quiet my brother got one about the time I was getting out of rc, but that thing looked smoother and quieter than any of the others at that time

[@tallguygaming409]

I dont think any of us has the traxxas trx1 i know someone has a hawk but not sure what tuck would like up with that. Maybe the rc10t 🤷‍♂️

[@Mike-tt2nt]

No surprise the losi broke! This truck was plage with this problem. I remember racing agents these back in the day, it seemed half of them never made it to the finish line. On paper the losi was great, on the track... Well point proven. The association the t3 was a well built truck, I still race mine to this day. With only a few weak points. 1 the front cross member would break, you can still finish a race with this problem and 2 the rear a arm mount (inner) would break on consent jumping . But if you took this to the track to race . No problem, only a problem for basher in extreme conditions

[@robertless6404]

Thats a common issue with Losi bulkhead...I was rooting Losi....What can I say... I'm a fanboy...😁

[@tallguygaming409]

Im was as well cause thats my truck haha. Its all good i got some new bulheads and some spares

[@braxbarrett4398]

Tires play a huge roll there like 80% of the setup. I still have 2 t3 s. I've had 2 xxt s as a young little guy. The losi was alot smoother and easy to drive dirt and carpet oval but the t3 was night and day better on carpet oval. The main issue I feel losi built there trucks heavier better quality. But the b2 b3 t3 platform was built as light as possible still retaining some strength. Back then all we had were brushed motors 27t stock classes not much modified racing so the lighter t3 excceled brushless the stealth transmission is stronger but losi isn't bad I had great luck other guys keep stripping them but if both trucks had more power I think the xxt would have beat the t3. Love both trucks won alot of ribbons trophy and plagues with my t3. It was a huge jump from the t2 carpet oval I ran 63 laps 1st place and track record was 65 laps first time I raced the t3 67 laps new track record. There was no competition unless we had a grudge race I knew I was going to win which got old now I'm pretty shitty like c main driver on dirt and carpet off road lol so it suvks from both prospective s but the hobby is just fun. Not everyone can win and somebody has to be last lol. Love losi and ae both. This is an awsome video you put together. I'd be cool to see a 2nd part like brushless and same exact tires I think losi will win.

[@haroldholmes4764]

It seems the losi ran much smoother

[@ericwood2790]

That hit on the Losi didn’t look like it was that hard , I guess with age they must become brittle like the Tamiya’s

[@tallguygaming409]

Yeah it was a brittle stock piece from back in the day

[@roccosvan]

They are very brittle by now. I have a mint jrxT that I don't run because I literally broke parts of the 5 link just taking it apart to restore

[@tallguygaming409]

Yeah id like some more classic losi stuff but part available scares me cause i need to run everything i own. I only got this xxt cause i had one when i was a kid

[@RCRetro]

Yes I was surprised it snapped like that too. But then again... brittle platics... Luckily new front bulkheads were found.

[@johntuffy5721]

@@RCRetro evader st is a clone of the xxt

[@SrRaV1981]

Why a XXT vrs a RC10T3 ? The T3 came out years later. It should be XXT vrs RC10 T2. Two that were available at the same time and raced together.

[@tallguygaming409]

We used what we have available.

[@RCRetro]

We are going to be doing more "VERSUS" videos using what we have. Thanks for your comment and support.

[@bradkalman2353]

Who does Harry think he is the stig? Lol

[@tallguygaming409]

I wasnt there when filming took place

[@bradkalman2353]

Yeah you were I don't know why you wanted to be anonymous just to be funny?

[@tallguygaming409]

I dont follow.... i havent even watched this episode yet

[@bradkalman2353]

Let me talk to Ari I bet you he tells me it was you I'm not playing around man. Lol

[@RCRetro]

@@tallguygaming409 lol

[@chasingwaves11]

That was the biggest problem with losi was that chassis! It was so weak and a bad design !! It what made me sell it and go with team associated because it was just a well built car all around i loved how it handled better then the losi did ..

[@SuperAngryWalrus]

I wish companies would re-release more stadium trucks. Seems every company only does buggies.

[@nicholasmorrow2601]

I feel that matchup is not accurate. The xxt was out around the same time as the t2 wasn’t it. The xxxt and the t3 were more accurate I think

[@Synic08]

The losi did seem faster… that broke way to easy though..

[@johntuffy5721]

same tires or it is not a valid test.

[@tallguygaming409]

Thanks for watching

[@stevepate7516]

Should have compared the 10t3 with a xxxt, closer in age and tech. The xxt is a lot older

[@tallguygaming409]

We didnt have a t2 and have a xxxt but its joes and not in tip top shape. We used what we could

[@originalrcfun7368]

@@tallguygaming409 Tires has more to say.

[@alexanderrichards895]

So the rules are... Same tires... But here's our two trucks and whoops! Not the same tires...

[@RCRetro]

As close as possible...true, in this case they are not the same. But in future episodes of Versus many of our matchups will have same tires. We work with what we have... thanks for your comments & support.

[@tallguygaming409]

Front tires were the same 🤷‍♂️

[@alexanderrichards895]

@@tallguygaming409 yes, and the rears are arguably more important. Especially in 2wd. I mean, if they were at least same compound and slightly different tread pattern... But youre talking different compounds, from different manufacturers and different tread patterns. Not to mention that those Losi tires were probably made more than 30 years ago and the goosebumps are still not that far out from their last production date. Sorry I just have a thing for "studies" and comparisons that claim lack of bias and control for variables and then demonstrate an inability to account for either of them.

[@tallguygaming409]

Actually they are soft rear tires made by panther brand new not 30 yr old losi tires. Also.its just a fun video not sure why your getting so upset. Just a couple guys having fun on a backyard dirt track. No pros here man

[@tallguygaming409]

Thanks for watching 👍

[@rc10ndslegend87]

I always felt the t3 had a bit of a push in it where the xxt would over steer a little and felt more nimble.