E3 2013: Reggie Fils-Aime Interview - Part 2

[@SchweppesLemonIsGodTier]

PLAY. THE. GAME

[@awsom98]

PLAY. THE. GAME.

[@Zenpharaoh]

Geoff asks the tough questions. Its good that he interview's executives like this, it keeps them on their toes. Respect.

[@PyroclasmAnimations]

Microsoft: We have an army. Nintendo: We have a Reggie.

[@linkenski]

8:00 "The repeatabitily" Reggie must've been tired as fuck.

[@mario54671]

He didn't dodge any questions, he just didn't give the answers people were expecting, but he still answered them appropriately. Reggie was actually very straightforward in admitting things like Wii U's poor sales.

[@WiseGuy3683]

awww, E3 2013, we got 3 really memorable interviews from 3 different console company figures all by Geoff Keighley. Don Mattrick: Fortunately we have a product for people without a stable net connection, it's called the 360. Jack Tretton: *drops the mic* Reggie Fils-Aime: PLAY. THE. GAMES. It may have not been the best overall E3 but gosh dangit, Geoff Keighley did a hell of a job!

[@malford1232]

I loved Reggies comments about DRM. It's great that someone still is targeting what consumers demand.

[@Aleks-ep3sd]

[ 8:32 ] -- >> PLAY. THE. GAME. quick access button

[@martyrodriguez7603]

REGGIE IS A BOSS LOL

[@bla2772]

Jeff has no chill

[@kristianlehnen7793]

Reggie is very satirical, fun and comedic in person. In the public eye he just focuses that towards the Nintendo brand.

[@smartinez281]

PLAY THE GAME

[@TheMaestroGuy]

"I'll have to smoke you in yet another game"

[@tsunfish9443]

tbh this makes me sad to watch retroactively, cuz of how the wii u performed overall, but man Reggie really is good at what he did. And oh my god... I feel like there has to be a bunch of wii u games that need to be rescued onto the switch still... I saw Wonderful 101 for Switch in a best buy a few weeks ago, and I feel kinda silly for not grabbing it haha, even tho it's already 8 years old somehow, I didn't realize it was wii u

[@rmrm1mrmr]

Reggie is a very well trained speaker always has been. In the industry, game developers, studio execs, PR, or game people who have to deal with the press are given set answers to certain questions. PR train the interviewee to expect certain questions so they can deflect. Dealing with certain interviewers like Geoff Keighley, a person like Reggie is given information and a heads up on what the potential questions are and who the interviewer is.

[@SurvivorGamingChannel]

This guy was so disrespectful to Reggie, I bet his body wasn't even ready.

[@TCMACK]

Survivor14780 Gaming Channel As much as I love Nintendo and Wii U, he was just being honest to Reggie.

[@Scamander]

All available or coming this year and 50% of those are exclusive on Wii U (+ maybe 3DS). You're welcome!

[@langemike]

I like the way Geoff interviewed him, as a nintendo fanboy, because it's exactly like im feeling. And in my opinion he did it in a respectfull way

[@rmrm1mrmr]

The difference between EAD and SWWS is that SWWS is an umbrella for all Sony development studios, EAD is an umbrella for many of their teams, not all. My point was that they both contain teams that develop exclusively for their owners and that they are both within their respective companies.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

I wasn't only talking about graphics and I was making the argument that better hardware makes it "easier" for developers to solely worry about the game and experience of the game without having to worry about so much about restrictions of hardware.

[@GeorgeTheRapper2]

"People look at all the previous games and maybe they say look at all these games coming maybe they're gonna delay them again" - Geoff "We've been very specific in launch dates and when these games are coming, so our track record is pretty good, so when we say a game is coming in a specific period of time Nintendo's track record is pretty good" - Reggie Lies, DK got delayed twice first it was scheduled for November then they changed it to December then they changed it to February, its been seven months and its still not out yet. "We've been very specific in launch dates" Smash Bros = 2014, Bayonetta 2014, Mario Kart 8 = 2014.

[@Nytezero]

@1:37 The same Wii Fit crowd ain't gonna come back and buy your WiiU bro.

[@kamikazilucas]

reggie what about the games for 2015 and 2016

[@4theloveogaming]

There were plenty of them tbh...the Wii U was actually an incredible console with some amazing games. In 2015 and 16 there was Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars, Mario Party 10, *Splatoon* , Super Mario Maker, Yoshi's Wooly World, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Xenoblade Chronicles, Pokken Tournament, Star Fox Zero, Mario & Sonic Olympics 2016, Paper Mario: Color Splash, and then there were probably other things I'm leaving out because those are just the ones I can remember from '15 & '16.

[@chrono32123]

I enjoy these interviews. Reggie, and the other Nintendo execs, are really cool people.

[@sithlorde2970]

what geoff want to say is "you dont have the third parties that gamers want! you just want the Nintendo fans! so bring to Nintendo the fucking games with a powerful console!!" and reggie say "we have wonderful 101"... yeah reggie, that is the ip we all gamers want..

[@AbleAnderson]

and just for the record, straight from wikipedia i pasted the following: "Wario World was a commercial success, selling over 142,000 copies"

[@thefakechris]

damn Geoff with a sick burn at the end

[@BrawlZeroEight]

They seem to be setting things up the same way. Nintendo stated they're not doing a price drop for the Wii U, but they also said the same thing about the 3DS back then, probably for the same reason as last time too. I'd say some bundles wouldn't hurt either. The Monster Hunter bundle in Europe sold surprisingly well from what I heard.

[@nicklauer5981]

"I'll have to smoke you in yet another game." Reggie is amazing.

[@RustyNaiil2]

The graphics changed amazingly, the third one was very dynamic and good looking. Skyward Sword and Ocarina of Time both had the same video/DVD graphics and that was 13 years and 2 generations in between

[@illyanmarshall6492]

HOLY CRAP THAT THING GOES ON FOREVER.

[@astonliker]

reggis is a master at dodging questions

[@kcaz64]

He just didn't let Reggie get away with any bullshit. This was actually quite an informative interview because of that.

[@Lokim23]

Oh sure it sold. I bought a copy. You just can't be online with other players more then 3 minutes without errors.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

The point of a business is to make money and not to lose too much. It's been 30 years and the game formula is still successful. A healthy portion of the Nintendo audience still invests in Nintendo to not change the formula too much.

[@ChipnDipz1]

Difference: I didn't say Nintendo was Darden cause that's not their relationship with the EAD branches. They didn't "acquire" the EAD branches. They made them by expanding and adding them as assets in that manner. Sony would be Darden because they acquired others into SWWS, but due to that, Santa Monica can't be Olive Garden, but Naughty Dog can. Santa Monica would be similar to Darden expanding and adding assets on their own somehow (even though the real Darden wouldn't do that...).

[@EdanR]

Man, that emoticon at the end of your comment was just the cherry on top of the obnoxious cake.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

You can argue all you want about how many Mario games there are, but that's a testament to how popular and how well each Mario, each Nintendo franchise sells. It may be a little stale, but a large number of people still like them and will continue to buy them. Similar to how people buy a new CoD even though it is more or less the same thing every game.

[@isaacness2647]

the other side of this spectrum, the "hard core"are the people that had always been there, growin' up with games, and developing a big passion about them.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

Considering the PS4 and XB1 versions of Destiny, Titanfall, and Watchdogs are the premier versions and would probably be the best place to experience the game, I would say they are major. I know that Respawn is focusing their entire development team on the XB1 version and another team is doing the 360 and PC versions.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

And most regular people still don't know that the WiiU is really a thing. More people are aware of the XB1 and PS4 coming out at the end of this year than they are of the WiiU. Yes, there will be shared ports, but as soon as the differences between versions is realized and if they are very noticeable, people will move on to the next console. Using a graphical example, the Watchdogs version for next gen and current gen is huge to say the least.

[@BrawlZeroEight]

Sonic has some push power, I'd say. Like I said, it would take a library of games to help sell a system, and Sonic will likely deliver as an appealing title (especially since there was a commotion similar to Bayonetta 2 that occurred when Nintendo mentioned their partnership with Sega and the exclusive Sonic games). Problem with Titanfall and Destiny is that they're available on the current gen systems as well. They may help sell systems, but they don't seem major for the XB1 or the PS4.

[@Redgohan147]

So do I. Reggie was absolutely right.

[@MisC21]

So your questions are: Where's the graphics? Where's the gore? (You keep going on about FPS') Where's the hardware that is implemented into the system that might not even be used to its full potential that I won't even know about? Where's the new games that I'll get, then trade in for new games because they aren't well made? Granted, all game companies have made a crappy game, but I do play certain systems (Nintendo/ Sony) over others, just because they have games I like and have quality.

[@Scamander]

That's because "every question" was in truth only one question packed in different words.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

That's not him being unprofessional, that's Reggie having good PR skills and dodging the questions. It's Geoff asking Reggie the questions he cannot or will not answer, because it'd be Nintendo admitting that there is something wrong.

[@andy5242]

Reggie's right. Mario isn't an annual franchise, it's a monthly one.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

Look at what has happened to Rayman: Legends. A former WiiU exclusive. It's been delayed, one of the main reasons is that it has taken the team time to also develop for the other consoles. It is being developed for the other systems is because of the WiiU sales Ubisoft expected fell below their expectations. The problem is that Rayman: Legends will probably sell more on the 360 and PS3 moreso than it will on the WiiU.

[@JA2NJ]

We know damn well Wii U is in the backburner lol... rip

[@zrox345]

Its not that they don't recognize those games, its because of his Business Executive mindset. Mario and Zelda have been with Nintendo since their beginning as a video game company and have drived their business for years. These games also are the most well known from Nintendo so he brings them up as a sales pitch.

[@Cruxisism]

inFamous and Sly Cooper by Sucker Punch, God of War by Santa Monica Studios, Uncharted and The Last of Us by Naughty Dog, all developers owned by Sony.

[@BrawlZeroEight]

An Ambassador program would certainly work with the Wii U if they pull it off just right. 3DS had NES and GBA games, so the Wii U equivalent should include gamecube games. But anyways, the Wii U's benefit compared to the Vita is that the Vita is actually getting more software in Japan right now, which would help explain sales. As far as NA sales go though, Wii U has been catching up to the Vita despite the year difference between the two. Ultimately, they both sell when games come out for them.

[@Pcrock1985]

Reggie handled himself like a pro Nintendo is the only real video game company left

[@chloeridgeway]

I'm pretty sure Nintendo's take on the whole console war is: "let's just sit back and watch them fight because we have our own unique thing that is keeping everything the same as it was 18 years ago" and it's actually working. I see the Wii U as a completely different thing to Microsoft and Sony which is why I bought a Wii U and planning on buying a ps4.

[@BrawlZeroEight]

I'm expecting a price cut at some point. I think it's also worth noting that the Vita actually has some success in Europe and Japan. Not much, of course, but it's not doing as bad as most people think it is (still nothing close to good though). The strange thing is that the Vita, despite being a handheld, took longer to reach a million sales in Japan than the Wii U did. Handhelds generally tower over consoles in sales there. Dunno if this speaks worse for the Vita or better for the Wii U, so eh.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

Here's a list of what is hurting the WiiU: - Lack of games and still lack of games until next year. - Poor marketing leading to consumer confusion. Isn't the WiiU an attachment to the Wii? - 3rd party publishers jumping ship - Who is the console for? Originally it was to reclaim the "hardcore" gamer. - What other services can the WiiU provide? This is important to get the general consumer. - WiiU online experience feel so far behind and bad, there's no faith in it.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

It's not only for kids. You know a lot of older people still love to play Mario, because it is challenging and it is fun to play. Nintendo is like Disney, they can cater to all generations of people. Nintendo plays to the crowd that grew up with them without alienating younger generations. You don't need realistic graphics, explosions, and guns to be considered hardcore.

[@RustyNaiil2]

The first Call of Duty came out in 2003. The first Assasin's Creed came out in 2007. The first Splinter Cell came out in 2002. The first Halo came out in 2001, the first Uncharted came out in late 2007, the first Zelda came out in 1986 and the first Mario came out in freaking 1981!! So you can't compare those franchises at all, taking into account that Mario is both the same gameplay, action and outdated 2D angle for 30 years, that's almost half a century.

[@ChipnDipz1]

Like I said, EAD comes from Nintendo's growth as a company, like new branches on a tree, and doesn't include any acquired companies like Game Freak and Retro. I know that SWWS isn't SOLELY made of acquired companies, but the vast majority of them are, with a few outliers. Those outliers don't necessarily debunk the overall point being made behind ownership and development.

[@ChipnDipz1]

Hey...that actually worked out. Someone named one single IP for Sony...which isn't even coming out yet. But to be fair, Sony's Japan branch did churn out a decent list of games if you do the research. Only difference is that they aren't even 1/10 as successful as Nintendo's current IPs. It's difficult coming out with high quality games over and over, making sure they sell, AND making your own hardware to sell it on. I mean, Trash Panic? The Last Guy? Soul Sacrifice? Who's heard of this stuff?

[@jacksonwescott]

"Repeatalability."

[@rmrm1mrmr]

There's the saying within the industry, "never bet against Nintendo" because they always somehow find a way to be very successful despite all their missteps.

[@fireburn95rs]

If geoff doesnt ask the questions, people never know where nintendo are going.

[@patormovies]

I actually like this interview, pope dewritos wasn't a dick, he was just asking some strong questions, fortunately, reggie knew how to answer them perfectly.

[@ChipnDipz1]

They're employees, but that's a technicality of working for a company that has been acquired. Like I said, if you make an Olive Garden menu, you aren't making a menu for Darden Restaurants. You're making a menu for Olive Garden, which is under Darden Restaurants. Sony, in relation to SCE WWS, is like Darden Restaurants. Sony Santa Monica and the SCE Japan branch are peculiar, but I don't think they invalidate my point. If that were the case, Retro would be a part of EAD...but it isn't.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

One of the problems, is that if Nintendo tries something new and it fails, it hurts them financially. They need their games to sell and using the Mario brand and other IPs is a sure way to sell. While we may be tired of those games, those games still sell very very well.

[@RustyNaiil2]

There's diffference between challenging and competing what you just wrote an example of is challenging, but it isn't mature or competeting, that's what makes those games casual.

[@Scamander]

Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101, Lego City Undercover, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, New Super Mario Bros. U, Super Mario 3D World, DKC: Tropical Freeze, TLoZ Wind Waker, Sonic Lost World, Game & Wario, Scribblenauts Unlimited, Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, Skylanders Giants, Rayman Legends, Watch Dogs, Wii Party U, ZombiU, NfS: Most Wanted U, Assassin's Creed III & IV, Batman: Arkham City & Origins, Lego Marvel Super Heroes, CoD: Ghosts, Deus Ex: Human Revolution DC.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

And that is not to say you're wrong in saying that people buy consoles for 1st party games. The thing is that nowadays people also buy the same consoles the majority of their friends buy. The social experience/online experience is so critical in today's consoles and that is something that Nintendo has not been able to capitalize on in the home console.

[@si2k7801]

This is a pretty epic interview.

[@BrawlZeroEight]

Only time will tell. The second half of the year is bound to be pretty interesting. Nintendo is dishing out some of their largest IPs on handheld and console and MS/Sony are entering their consoles into the race. I'm still waiting on TGS before I can say anything more on the PS4. After how MS handled themselves, I think Sony doesn't have to worry too much about many of the regular gamers, but their lack of Japanese games might hurt them at home. XB1's tv features might help it a lot, honestly.

[@mario54671]

Yes, but considering the negative reaction to the "more digital" policies of Xbox One, people don't seem to be ready for it just yet, and many are very content with still using physical discs. Sure, things ARE moving in a more digital direction, which is why the external storage is already an option. Also, Flash Storage doesn't just "speed it up by a little," SSDs are NIGHT AND DAY faster than HDDs. Let's not forget that HDDs heat up a lot more due to all the friction and moving parts.

[@farslashenjoyer]

This is too good. I almost want to believe this was a staged improv act and that they're giggling together off camera. It feels like an Andy Kaufman stunt.

[@BrawlZeroEight]

The problem with 3rd parties is that they don't have any real consistency. The Wii U is in a fairly similar situation as the PS3 was, which was even worse off because the architecture was difficult to work with. According to what some devs have said, the main thing with the Wii U is gamepad usability, which is easily remedied with using 5 minutes and 2 lines of code (according to the Darksiders 2 devs). The quality of a port dictates whether it'd sell. See: Sonic and All Stars Racing Transformed

[@EpicYoak]

As someone who has never owned a Nintendo console, I feel it in my pockets every time I choose to pick a sony console over a nintendo one. I've only played these games at my friends house, but I debate hard whether I want to play games like The Last of Us, Infameous, or Battlefield, over games like Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart, and every freakin legend of zelda game out

[@MisC21]

You missed my point. "Hardcore" and "Casual" I think are being taken a little out of context. Sure, there are many games that are faster paced, but fast paced + shooter does not make a game "hardcore". If you also noticed, I put both "Hardcore" and "Casual" in quotations because that sort of labeling of a game really boils down to the person playing it. I'm not saying you're idea of what's "hardcore" or not is wrong, but merely the concept of labeling based on what YOU feel is fact, wrong.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

Ubisoft has to spread Rayman out on the 3 systems, because WiiU exclusivity will net them less money than being on all 3 systems. Being a WiiU exclusive first killed them which is why it has been delayed. Ubisoft doesn't intend for it to compete with GTAV, their audiences are completely different crowds.

[@senseiponzor]

The best part is that you just know Reggie could crush this guy's skull with his stare.

[@DFVChrome]

"Cause in the end, IT'S ABOUT THE GAMES!" Reggie knows whats up.

[@mario54671]

Well, I mean, there WERE some notable exceptions like No More Heroes, but yes, the Wii was all about the first party lineup. I was talking about the GCN's first party library. Yes, I know PS2 had more support for it, but GCN has some of the best games in game history on there.

[@RustyNaiil2]

The ''transition'' from 2D to 3D was 15 years ago. The graphics, gameplay and story haven't changed at all. Nintendo still makes the 2D platformers and charge full price. For the past 15 years there's only come out 2 or 3 new and serious franchises from nintendo.

[@noventaporcento]

My body is ready to play the game

[@rmrm1mrmr]

Then you're also talking about how specs-wise the WiiU is on par with the 360 and PS3, but is more than/ just as much as the PS3 and 360 (depending on the SKU of those). It doesn't have the library of games both have nor the support of 3rd parties (yet). What it does have, which is good, is at least some disc-based backwards compatibility.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

360 managed to get through somewhat unscathed, because of the foothold it established by coming out a year ahead. People had friends on XBL, a game library, and their gamerscores they didn't want to give up. At the time, PS3 still didn't have the strong library it had now and the Wii was still looked at a gimmicky party system.

[@jessevillasenor4866]

yes i do agree with you that they should make more ips but they have made ips since pikmin some big examples are pandoras tower, xenoblade, battlion wars, and the last story also their new ip is currently wonderful 101

[@DigitalGreenTea]

PLAY THE GAME! - Reggie is just the best. He really pushed Geoff this time. Nintendo is going to be successful, and as a Nintendo fan I'll be having a ton of fun with Super Luigi, Pikmin 3, Wonderful101, Wii PartyU, Wii Fit U, Zelda Wind Waker, Sonic Lost World, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze and Super Mario 3D World this year, and in 2014 with Mario Kart 8, Bayonetta 2 and Smash Bros. Not to mention that a ton of Key Nintendo 3DS titles such as Zelda Link Between Worlds are coming out too.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

Sony is the developer of some of their games as well. And you were saying that these other companies don't also make their software. SCEA or SSM are just different divisions under Sony. Nintendo EAD is a different division under Nintendo. Naughty Dog is owned fully by Sony, but is like Retro a subsidiary of their respective company. It's also like Rare which is fully owned by MS.

[@M3rtyville]

Jeff couldn't get any answer he wanted. Nintendo is about games, it doesn't matter what you ask, you will get always the same answer. Nintendo doesn't delay games just for fun. It's called quality control and thats what makes them so awesome. Thats why games like Super Smash Bros or Kirby Adventure Wii are so awesome.

[@BrawlZeroEight]

I remember the preorders for the Wii U got so high that Gamestop had to take a waitlist for preorders. I don't doubt that the other consoles are getting high preorder sales, but people with more experience than myself have told me it's nothing new, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt at the moment. I'm more concerned about the stability of the upcoming systems. A repeat of the RROD that the 360 had would be terrible. I still don't know how the 360 managed to get through it unscathed.

[@Beatles4office]

im pretty sure both are being published by Nintendo, I know for a fact Bayonetta is

[@rmrm1mrmr]

Sony makes a new mascot every generation. The bad thing about using the same IP, is that it constricts a developer and does not let them use their creativity to create something entirely new. This generation of consoles people felt that sequel fatigue more than anything. Think of the movie industry. Some of the best movies never had sequels, the game industry should be the same. There'll be a part 2 to this message.

[@stickman2012]

Play Zelda II from the NES and you will see hardcore at its finest. Probably the hardest game I've ever picked up.

[@ZarkTide]

Reggie: WINNING.

[@ChipnDipz1]

Part 2: Same for most of the other Mario releases we've seen. It's just that going from the Wii, to the DS, to the Wii U, they had a lot of room to work with (well, this formula is for Mario primarily). Anyway, it all depends on who your audience is and what you're doing. Nintendo can afford to use Mario more than others can use their IPs, so they do. Ubisoft churns out AC annually, and CoD's an annual thing too. All still great franchises, even if they didn't win "GOTY" recently.

[@ChipnDipz1]

Can't argue with that, but the bad side of spitting up random 1-n-done IPs is that you're not investing in it. It might sell 1mil or so and fade away, or it'll be a huge hit, win some awards, and once again...disappear. It's not like others like Sega and Sony didn't try it before. Everyone was making mascots and iconic characters. Mario's the one that won the fight from back then, and Sonic's the only survivor, albeit not doing too hot. Standing the test of time is important when making IPs.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

And this is where you're wrong as well. Being acquired does not excuse the fact, that they are all now internally Sony employees. The SCEA branch also existed before SWWS was formally created. That included Sony Santa Monica and Naughty Dog. The SCE Japan branch which includes Team ICO also existed as well before SWWS. SWWS is not only acquired studios over time but also the studios they had prior. SWWS is inside Sony as well otherwise it wouldn't be called such.

[@rmrm1mrmr]

If you have people invest through online purchases you ensure that people will always check in on that store front. But again I'll say that storage problems with hamper this and also the lack of items. People would rather have all their purchases be on one system or on their primary system. Currently for majority of consumers the WiiU online does not satisfy console needs or even wants.

[@BlaizeV]

I was convinced to buy a WiiU after seeing at last the first looks at Smash Bros, New Mario and Mario Kart. Hardly innovative but sure fire experiences. Something i think alot of Journalists fail to take into account.

[@RustyNaiil2]

As long as you haven't proved a better source, wikipedia remains the most reliable definition.