(E3) Hellcat Raptor dirt tire install, BAD vibration super easy fix. Honda Grom VS Clone race!

[@stephenrock4541]

What an excellent little thing. I'm 60 English and have had bikes most of my life. My point is i thought I knew it all. I've learned a lot from you and with to thank you. I'm too poor to to buy a cheap Chinese bike but thanks to you i can help any of my mates if they go Chinese. Thank you so much Cheezmaster. Stevie R.

[@timothymidkiff2894]

I had a mechanic one time told me a solution to a problem I was having one time that was really a simple fix compared to what I was thinking needed done. He told me I had to kiss the truck, I said do what? He said kiss equals keep it simple stupid. To this day I doubt I'll ever forget that advice for everything!

[@MotoCheez]

Great advise!

[@danielfisch655]

She's definitely a beauty. Great job diagnosing and fixing the issue. 👍🏽👊🏽

[@RatdogDRB]

That "pop" definitely was the break. And, my first thought when the chain was rattling while revving was "motor mount". Yup, always start with the outside/easy stuff first. But, when it's ugly, it's UGLY!! I was on a ride with a guy once, he wanted me to listen to a new/odd sound coming from his 2014 Honda Valkyrie Rune. I walked around it to isolate the side of the bike, and then went front to back. To me, the sound came from inside the engine case (shifter side), just forward of the alternator. My diagnosis was a bad bearing for the front of the shaft that drives the alternator. Luckily, it was under warranty still and when the shop split the cases, my diagnosis was correct. He sold it after the second one failed and Honda fixed that one too. That was a SWEET riding bike... but a PITA to work on. I refused to touch the thing after working on it a couple of times.

[@MotoCheez]

Damn that's crazy, and it was a Honda! Thanks, ya I knew bolt or something, then of course started tearing shit apart. Haha

[@proelitjump1355]

Best bike channel so far! Stay casual and simple

[@MotoCheez]

I try and keep it 100% real. Thank you 😁

[@willteachnothing]

I found one of those in me dryer screen last week. So i kept it and tossed out the lint. So far seems to be me best find from any dryer.🤣🇦🇺

[@michaelbryant2423]

I went through three of the same ones replaced with a grade 8 bolt and made sure the engine wasn’t forcing on it and it’s been fine

[@MotoCheez]

I was wondering if I should support off the head to frame after hearing a lot of people having same.problem.

[@michaelbryant2423]

I ended up brakening more bolts and made a bolt up plate like you did

[@MotoCheez]

Mine holding up good. No broken bolts and I've been riding it like I stole it

[@michaelbryant2423]

Yah I have been good for months no more broken bolts or chain play can’t wait for the nibbi to come in

[@rc2634]

I just love your videos with this bikes, I am always jealous 🤣 Go for the big bore kit! I would love to see that!

[@MotoCheez]

I'm pretty sure I'm gonna do it! Thanks! 😁

[@bltone8751]

I have this same bike and I offroad alot as well as wheelie every other time I stop😂That rear engine mount bolt breaks at least once every 2 weeks no matter how good of a bolt I get. Its easy to replace if you make the head of the bolt face towards the rear brake👍🏽

[@MotoCheez]

I'm hearing this is an issue for a lot of people. I want to look into making a mount from the frame to the head possibly.

[@adanmendoza7517]

Does the bike have 2 mounts or 3

[@MotoCheez]

2 motor mounts

[@techjunkie3916]

Glad you got it all figured out. Had me concerned a bit, as I just bought one of these used with about 3xx miles on it. I hadn't ridden a bike in YEARS and wanted something un-intimidating to get back on quick. Great vid, keep 'em coming Mine also has the same knobby tires. I posted a vid. Still fairly new to riding. Few years experience off, and on. But mannnn they are so much funnnn. I never thought I could have a blast doing the speed limit. The guy I bought mine from slapped on the OG Grom Plastics, but its a hellcat/raptor. You've got yourself a new subscriber

[@MotoCheez]

Sweet!

[@totalnoobfishing1753]

Where did you source the replacement bolt from ..in the bling of an eye no less?

[@MotoCheez]

Luckily I had a grade 5 American fine thread in my bolt bin perfect length.

[@totalnoobfishing1753]

@@MotoCheez Of course... this is why we must hoard every nut and bolt... Amen Brotha!

[@MotoCheez]

@@totalnoobfishing1753 truth. I strip pls motors etc for bolts and nuts. Have tons and bins full!

[@branzka5889]

I'm in hawaii and having a hard time finding both engine mount bolts for the exact bike you have. Mines red tho

[@MotoCheez]

The links I posted not working?

[@emanuelrenteria6498]

Where u get the bike I been trying to look for one

[@MotoCheez]

Everyone is sold out waiting on shipments. Rona slowed everything down, even production...

[@Synic08]

Everytime I’m like “oh, I guess I’m gonna go change the oil in my truck”. Motocheeze is like, yep, uploading a video. Lol

[@MotoCheez]

Hahaha

[@shawnomack45]

Hey cheez love the vids. Do you know where I could look for a used hawk?

[@MotoCheez]

I see them on facebook marketplace and Craigslist once in a while

[@shawnomack45]

@@MotoCheez ok cool I will definitely keep my eyes open. I'll probably just end up getting the fuel injected hawk for 2200 I think it was. Thanks for the quick reply I appreciate it.

[@MotoCheez]

@@shawnomack45 they're less then 2000.

[@shawnomack45]

@@MotoCheez o shit ok cool. Maybe its cuss I put a few other things in the cart on the website. Like the warranty and all that.

[@MotoCheez]

Or pre assembled brings the price up a few hundred.

[@Peep18m]

What grade bolt did yours come with? I just bought one courtesy of you’re vids and it’s got 12.9 for motor and 8.8 for everything else. I’m doing the 190 upgrade on mine as well. I love it too much fun for 1100. After 190 swap I’ll be in it about 1900 total w new exhaust etc.

[@MotoCheez]

The bolt that broke on mine wasn't graded. Maybe they screwed mine up? Yes they're a ton of fun!! Debating on an engine swap over big bore..

[@Peep18m]

MotoCheez no they didn’t screw up. For the 2020’s they put upgraded bolts in them 👍🏼

[@MotoCheez]

Awesome!! Good to know

[@Renardmorocco]

My Apollo DB36 has that same vibration when you accelerate. Did you did the fix?

[@MotoCheez]

Check all the frame bolts! One broke on mine

[@branzka5889]

Where did you get your replacement motor mount bolts from? Btw, to get the bottom motor mount bolt out, I also removed the front sprocket which seems I didnt have to do. Helpful video though

[@MotoCheez]

I posted links in description

[@janajeffsilvernickelladventure]

We all miss stuff sometimes. Great video. Hope you and yours are doing well.

[@MotoCheez]

We're doing good thanks, how about yours?

[@janajeffsilvernickelladventure]

@@MotoCheez We are all good. Work is crazy but that's to be expected. Lol. Looking forward to your next video. See ya.

[@fredo2139]

Do you recommend this bike over the other Chinese models? I want to get one just debating on which to get. Not very familiar with these bikes.

[@MotoCheez]

Depends on what kind of riding you want. This is a good small around town bike.

[@rickerra]

Just put these same Shinko knobbies on my Hellcat and snapped my motor mount bolt on the first ride! Must be from the extra vibrations of the knobbies. Time for the patented MotoCheez 3rd engine mount plate mod!

[@MotoCheez]

Damn. Seems like EVERYONE is snapping bolts, someone needs to make a bolt on lower mount.

[@allenpierson3155]

Motocheez, I need your opinion. Which is better? EFI or carb bikes? Trying to decide for my first bike between the Brozz and the DLX

[@MotoCheez]

Carb is nice for ease of repair but the EFI is just start and go, no choke to fuss with, manages itslelf at different elevations etc.

[@allenpierson3155]

MotoCheez thanks 🙏

[@EasyRiderGreg]

How fast can that cruise for a long time? 55 maybe?

[@MotoCheez]

55 is pretty much topped out, I'd say you can cruise all day at 50

[@caseyrider7980]

That’s how mine was except it broke from the inside and the bolt vibrated out it keeps braking it’s the 3rd time this has happened

[@Scotty_in_Ohio]

The zoom on your S20 is pretty impressive - I think that'll be my next one (phone).

[@MotoCheez]

They patched a focus issue, it's much better but not 100%

[@mikeymike3240]

Hi there, that’s a pretty darned good camera man, great wee bike as well. Those tyres look amazing. As soon as I heard it, I says te meself.....engine mounting bolt, oh yeah.

[@MotoCheez]

I'm loving the S20, a few small bugs they're fixing slowly

[@GetNGhost]

Finally, some two wheeled action!

[@ScottB52]

I am considering a chinese bike. Hellcat, TBR7, Hawk, Magician, etc. What do you recommend? A couple of my buddies have groms and we do light offroading / camping.

[@MotoCheez]

Comes down to preference, I have a ranking chart on the bikes at motocheez.com to help you decide.

[@mmmasterscross7915]

What tooth does the front sprocket have on it? Can it be upgraded? Thanks Motorcheez! Another great video!

[@MotoCheez]

Thanks! Yes it can, same as xr70 or z50 front sprocket.

[@HippoDrones]

Glad it was fixable and got you home! :-)

[@MotoCheez]

True!

[@ronciucci1732]

Love the look of those tires. Did you have any issues with rubbing on the front fender? Assuming the knobby tire is the same size as the stock road tire? 120/70-12.

[@MotoCheez]

Back is a tad bigger. Link in description and motocheez.com.

[@MotoCheez]

No rubbing on fenders either. They fit perfect.

[@luisfontanez1770]

Are these bikes good for 10k miles?

[@MotoCheez]

Yes, I've seen many go over 10,000 miles

[@jacebigelow]

Nice !!! Would a big bore kit allow you to use a bigger carb ? 🍻

[@MotoCheez]

Yes

[@doubleclickdrama]

Do you still have the CRF250? seems like you enjoy the other bikes more!

[@MotoCheez]

I sold it about 2 years ago and got a DRZ400 to replace it. And of course the Chinese bikes!!!

[@doubleclickdrama]

@@MotoCheez Dang - I guessed I missed that one. I have been debating between a CRF250L Rally and a cheap hawk. Honestly hard to pull the trigger on either right now, but the honda is only 1500 more.

[@MotoCheez]

@@doubleclickdrama gonforntge Honda if you have the money. Can't beat Japanese technology! Especially Honda!

[@empireofdirtworkshop4304]

Best channel of YT right here

[@MotoCheez]

❤️❤️👍🔥🔥😁 thanks!

[@jamesbockenstette4332]

Love the Cheez from Moto. Keep posting....

[@mikehoncho8268]

If you could have only one would you choose the Hellcat Raptor or the hawk 250?

[@MotoCheez]

Hawk 250, it more versatile offroad and in, but depends. If I ly to zip around town, maybe this Grom

[@chadcarter9581]

Love the bike... I will have to get one!!!

[@raginredneck93]

Have heard of the engine mount issue, been watching it on my GF’s Hellcat, so far good. Here’s my question though, do the tires have tubes in em or are they tubeless?

[@MotoCheez]

Tubeless! I didn't know it was an issue. Grade 5 bolt now. Hopefully permanent

[@raginredneck93]

MotoCheez Supposedly they included an upgraded bolt in the crate for awhile then upgraded the bolt they were using at the factory. Dunno how much truth there is to that. I found the fuel tank vent hose pinched on my GF’s, fixed that and eliminated the vapor recovery system. Moved the fuel shutoff to where it’s actually useable. Retorqued the head bolts, they were all over the board. Rejetted it of course. Got it running good now, I’m impressed with it and she loves it.

[@MotoCheez]

@@raginredneck93 don't recall the extra bolt... Have to check head torque for sure now

[@raginredneck93]

MotoCheez I was told 10 ft lbs, the tightest one on hers was about 12 so I matched em to it, loosest one was maybe 6, LOL. Thanks for settling the tire question. I put Ride On in em and got her a CO2 inflator, probably throw a plug kit under the seat too 👍

[@jamesgrayson7466]

Great video. Love the bike with knobbies. Figured I might get one and do the same. Checked out the TX website and saw your video there. Only watched a few seconds but heard you saying you finally checked all the bolts. Doh!

[@Mr.FLOYDs]

I swear I had the same thing on a dual sport rte a year back. Only my case was different n the whole bike broke down. Upon dismantling the motor I notice that exact bolt at the exact nut broke off. Funny I’m always riding high speed n if this bike was working, I believe it would have fallen apart at anytime.

[@MotoCheez]

Crazy...

[@jimjackson3245]

Hey, we spoke before about the best Chinese supermoto. I ended up buying one as "parts" that isn't EPA approved and not sold in the US commercially, so I'll have some fun filing that paperwork. Anyway, thought I'd mention, something I discovered when researching my engine is that it seems pretty common on the forums that the exhaust port on the Chinese copies are pretty restrictive (Id imagine to meet emissions standards, which mine still didn't (lol)). Friend recommended I line it up to TDC, add some compressor air to the cylinder and hollow out that exhaust port with an angry bit to gain some extra power. Might not get you to overtaking the Grom but maybe it helps? I'd tell you how mine went but I live in an apt and my bike is still under construction at my grandfather's and thanks to COVID-19, will remain that way for the foreseeable future as I won't be the one to give him that virus. Anyway, could be a quick and "free" power upgrade to hog out that exhaust port. Thought I'd mention it. Hope all is well and secure on your end.

[@MotoCheez]

Good info, I've seen the CG style heads have porting done. I'll take a look. You take care also, don't catch the RONA!

[@jimjackson3245]

@@MotoCheez CG clone is what I have. Probably going to order an NC450 in the future. Anyway when researching the CGs, I also read the horizontal 125s (I can't remember the designation) are also relatively choked up. Doing my best to take precautions and stay extra sanitary. All the best to you and yours. The sooner this is over, the better!

[@wickylightyear3917]

I have a 2020 hell cat I ran into the same problem. where are you guys getting the Bolt from.

[@MotoCheez]

I put a link for it off eBay and size

[@wickylightyear3917]

@@MotoCheez i cant find the link.

[@wickylightyear3917]

@@MotoCheez if could please post the link or the info here, i would greatly appreciate it.

[@MotoCheez]

It's in the description in video, this app won't let me copy.

[@sabretech2001]

Both T-Bolt and Pister Pro sell engines for that....like a 190cc 5-speed, which puts down around 20hp to the wheel.

[@MotoCheez]

I saw that, they're pricey. Maybe I can swing a deal with one of them

[@prestonworden9811]

You should try putting a racing cdi in it and an iridium spark plug

[@ironhead320]

Hey looking for one where you get it and are they street legal

[@MotoCheez]

Full info in description, including discount code. Yes road legal! Except CA

[@rockettests2617]

I like the mini truck but motorcycle content is much better.👍

[@MotoCheez]

It seems split on my channel, winter is mini, summer mostly bikes 😁

[@goofyleo3869]

3rd! 😎 I so wanna do this to the electric one for the wife to bounce around the property with. 👌

[@MotoCheez]

Haha. Good idea

[@goofyleo3869]

This SO smacks of a mid 80's Honda Fat Cat. 😎

[@2StrokeSmoke544]

Looks like it has more balls than the hawk.. this is a 125cc no?

[@MotoCheez]

It's a 125, yes. Doesn't have more power than the hawk tho. Kinda close lol

[@waynecipriano7698]

Cool bike. I didn't know it can go 56 mph for a little bike

[@MotoCheez]

Ya not bad

[@matthewmay6893]

Need to do a review of the Honda ct clones.

[@MotoCheez]

I want to get one!!

[@ZeroCool318]

So when you putting on a big bore kit?

[@MotoCheez]

I'm looking into them....

[@ZeroCool318]

MotoCheez they have tons of them on eBay. Do you think a standard grom BB kit will fit the hellcat?

[@MotoCheez]

@@ZeroCool318 I saw for Grom, I have to look into if it's the same, Im pretty sure it is.

[@rockypergin2216]

Glad you found the problem mr motocheez. 👍. Like your comments.

[@MotoCheez]

Thanks!😁

[@ratdog3055]

In most cases the fixing is easy. The finding the problem an diagnostics is the hard stuff!

[@MotoCheez]

True

[@Krotos1970]

The kickstand needs to be up on the hawk for it to start?

[@MotoCheez]

Not the model that I had but the magician did and a few newer models, I'm not sure if the new hawk has the kickstand switch or not

[@Krotos1970]

@@MotoCheez I'll try it later, I'll let you know

[@Krotos1970]

@@MotoCheez omfg that did it LoL, I do not remember, but I think I started it the bike with the kickstand down with the stock instrument panel

[@MotoCheez]

Awesome 👍👍😎😎

[@Krotos1970]

@@MotoCheez thanks a lot

[@ironwolfF1]

Yeah, in hindsight, that 'pop' was the bolt shearing (at 2:14, if you look closely, you can see the drive chain vibrating...which ain't suppose to happen if everything is locked down).

[@MotoCheez]

My first guess was right, but of course didn't see it

[@MitchellGWhitehead]

Looks badass with those tires.

[@timothyrackley3063]

I love you motocheessseeeeeeeeee!!

[@MotoCheez]

🤣😁😂👍

[@BarnStangz]

I was going to say some kind of engine mount bolt. When even I buy Chinese bikes or quads, they always seem to get lose or break. I have so many long grade 5 bolts lying around now because of that, lol! Dude, should have been double clutching! LOL! That is such a classic meme. FF1 was hilarious! Might be time for some smack on your Grom clone, aka, giggle gas, aka, N02. Or yeah, big bore would be sweet too. I'm sure we'll see fuel injection soon with these Chinese bikes, it's only a matter of time. I like the simplicity of a carb, but man, injection is super nice too!

[@MotoCheez]

Exactly right bthe damn bolts. 😁 F n F is classic now, that's crazy!! Big bore!

[@adanmendoza7517]

I recently bought one but still in shipping, where can I find these bolts so I can change mine out?

[@MotoCheez]

Tractor supply might have them. The ones on a bike or metric but 5/16-18 or 24 (preferred) 5" long will work. I'd get grade 8, or at least 5 (ebay.to/2zdtG8a Grade 8) (ebay.to/2L5sCWq Grade 5)

[@m103904]

just picket up the orion rxb150xl just waiting on the dmv to open so i can plate it.

[@MotoCheez]

Awesome!

[@jcastbruh1583]

180cc big bore kit!?!?

[@MotoCheez]

190! Eventually

[@shifthappens8475]

I went through about 20 different bolts on mine. Tried different strength grade etc. Eventually sold it lol

[@MotoCheez]

I'd hope grade 8 would be good. We'll see

[@shifthappens8475]

@@MotoCheez grade 8 snapped like toothpick the tensile strength is to hard. I actually drilled hole to a m10 and used grom hardware. That lasted a little bit but still broke. It's kind of a common issue with the 2 bolt bikes

[@goofyleo3869]

/\ Heard that Boss? Fab-up another mounting point and make it a 3-bolt engine. 😎

[@MotoCheez]

The Grom has 3 apparently, good idea!

[@goofyleo3869]

@@MotoCheez I'm full of ideas, Boss. Some are actually GOOD! 😁

[@GratefulEd907]

You can see it rattle at 2:15 in the video

[@spymaine89]

now know what to check

[@minibikeaction4266]

Those tires do look pretty cool but, that aint no dirt bike man! It would be cool to put a pit bike front end with a 14 inch wheel and a lounger shock in the read and make a dual purpose out of one.

[@MotoCheez]

Ya. No dirtbike, but be like the old CT90 trail bikes for sure. Same size tires n everything

[@frankmc5021]

Boss Matt.

[@devinguras9610]

Yee

[@MotoCheez]

2nd

[@dannythetoesmasher]

I would like to have a runabout bike like that, but I would look like an ape on a football ook,ook.

[@MotoCheez]

Haha. I'm a big guy too, screw it, have fun!

[@zacherydanson3812]

Tag is vibrating

[@BillyBlaze7]

groovy

[@adv_myles8915]

Booo and booo 👻 the hellcat but still love mottocheez

[@MotoCheez]

😁👍👍. It's fun doe!

[@grayeagle4521]

Nice tires you need a dirt bike front fender on it like I did to my grom and it look great check out my short video on it.

[@somerandomguy3868]

Hey you can't check everything, at least nothing else broke

[@MotoCheez]

True!!

[@strokenumber3]

I'll tell you what's causing that vibration: The Chinese.

[@MotoCheez]

😁

[@dewaynemarcionette6112]

Sounds like starter gear is not disengaging all the way

[@davidodette3833]

Made it in the first hundred views

[@royduncan173]

dam bolt

[@frankmc5021]

Here

[@7MPhonemicEnglish]

Chinese fasteners are made of butter.

[@MotoCheez]

👍😅

[@royduncan173]

valve needs adjusted

[@MotoCheez]

I checked them, they're on

[@tareksalah1506]

First

[@MotoCheez]

Yes!

[@doinkboinkly2153]

Momdocheems

[@belowme4927]

THAT SAYING SOUNDED LIKE JOE BIDEN SAID IT

[@MotoCheez]

😂🤣😅😅😂 noooooo

[@Visigoth_]

8:39 Chinese quality... it's always the risk you take for buying cheaper.

[@MotoCheez]

100% correct!

[@gizzyguzzi]

Now raise the front fender. Does anyone make offroad plastics for these? Nobody seems to have these in stock at present. Bummer.