E83: The Roman Empire, House of Wisdom, The Catalan Atlas & Europe w. Mustafa Briggs

[@TheAnsariPodcast]

1st Book: Beyond Bilal - Black History in Islam 2nd Book: Beyond Bilal - Black Muslims in the East Upcoming Book 2024 inshallah! Instagram: @theansaripodcast & @mustafabriggs !

[@mahdnova3465]

Are romans not europeans what is he on 😅 are you listening to him ?

[@digitalliquid5159]

Yes and don’t hold nothing back It’s obligatory upon you

[@mahdnova3465]

@@digitalliquid5159 dont hold nothing back?

[@pianomanjarkell]

@@mahdnova3465 European as an identity came mainly after the Renaissance and the colonial era. There was no consciousness of Romans being “European” at that time.

[@mahdnova3465]

@@pianomanjarkell RUM is mentioned in the Quran 1400 years ago what you on about renaisance

[@bredeleven4132]

We need a Mustafa Briggs episode once a quarter! 🙌

[@THETRUTHOFTHEDAY]

Definitely good for our health.

[@unitedfirearms1057]

Insh'Allah

[@abdallazaher1910]

Agreed

[@xx-rt2hs]

Please let Mustafa know there is a gap in the market in islamic history and the way he presents it. Should definitely start a channel.

[@passionategospel5281]

mustafa briggs give us a nutritions for our brain. so much knowledge. alhamdulillah.

[@Zou.z]

Bring him as often as possible and make 1h podcast

[@TheAnsariPodcast]

Inshallah will do! And honestly as long as the guest is on Mustafa Briggs level. All episodes can be like this.

[@el-Cu9432]

Im a huge history biff and Brother Mustafa's scholarly depth of Islamic knowledge is indeed one of Allah's blessings

[@BrileyBeConsulting]

Civilization is a torch passed on from civilization to civilization. Fantastic points brother!

[@Gem_ina_dark_world_]

Do you think US wants to pass the torch to Israel? Seems like that’s what’s going on

[@SkeeloHendrix]

The thing is barely ANYONE knows their own history.. in America specially

[@mahdnova3465]

Hes waffling now, Romans are westeners, idk why hes saying romans are not europeans or something

[@el-Cu9432]

​@@mahdnova3465Listen again. He absolutely did not say or even insinuate that.

[@colettescotti2219]

I would love to ask Mustafa Briggs about his thoughts on the papal bull that sanctioned the slave trade in western Africa and its connection to the crusades. Islam had swept across Africa and was only a matter of time before it spread downwards across the whole continent. I've always hypothesized that the churches slaving with forced baptism was connected to the crusades and competition with Islam, that they were badly losing...

[@KD400_]

What do u think the answer would be. All those men back then did bad things from all cultures it doesn't matter the religion. Also the spread of islam was successful because the people found it easy to adjust to Islam and its rules. Thats y most converted. About christianity which time period are u reffering to. Christianity was not losing in the medieval age in fact it was growing. What are u referring to. The crusades were a reponse to Islamic take over of Jerusalem. But the muslims showed completely towards the Christians.

[@el-Cu9432]

He addressed this in a prior episode.

[@Sami-ov2bt]

Mustafa brigs ❤ a real brother

[@adamuabdullahi4980]

May Almighty Allah continue to bless you

[@sl4305]

Claiming the title of Caesar of the Roman Empire (Kayser-i Rum) was symbolic, reflecting the Ottoman Sultan's role as a dominant power in the region. The eastern Roman Empire transition from polytheism to monotheistic Christianity was an internal transformation and reformation, while the fall of the Byzantine Empire and becoming Muslim was due to external military conquest. It was the internal proselytizing of Christianity persevering centuries of persecution that led to the Roman Empire becoming Christian. The Christian’s did not defeat the Roman pagan empire in a war. I’m not preaching Christianity but noting the stark difference between a nonviolent Roman reformation to Christianity versus a military defeat of a Christian Roman Empire that ceased to exist after the defeat.

[@alphah35diallo89]

My your knowledge is appreciated

[@americanjulamaghan7359]

This city of Constantinople was called Byzantium, it was a Greek-speaking city. When Ceaser Constantine split the Roman Empire into East & West after becoming Christian, he move to Byzantium city and renamed it Constantinople " the polis [city] of Constantine.

[@kayzar293]

The Ottomans still called it Constantinople for many centuries all the way up until 1922. Ironically, it was the Secular Young Turks who changed its name officially to Istanbul. Even the name Istanbul has Greek origins.

[@el-Cu9432]

That happened after Constantine embraced Christianity in 312 AD. He moved the capitol of the Roman empire to Constantinople around 331AD.

[@SoldierOfAlIah]

@@kayzar293otttomans never called it constantinople

[@mr.archivity]

Constantine remained the city “Nova Roma”, not Constantinople. It was renamed Constantinople on 11 May 330 AC

[@prymostudio3554]

Beyond Bilal; black history in Islam just got delivered to me by Amazon...I would love to get his book on all he discussed here. Pls what's the name of the book

[@TheAnsariPodcast]

It’s in my pinned comment

[@dymondwingzforjudah2702]

Facts. The ROMAN EMPIRE has spread its wings to the 4 corners of the earth TODAY. its called CHRISTIANITY & ISLAM & JUDIAZIM 💯💯💯

[@DeeBoy153]

I want to hear him talk about east Africa insha'Allah

[@kayzar293]

The Ottomans still called it Constantinople for many centuries all the way up until 1922. Ironically, it was the Secular Young Turks who changes its name officially to Istanbul. Even the name Istanbul has Greek origins.

[@SoldierOfAlIah]

No the ottomans called it Islambol after they conqeuord it and it became Istanbul in 1922.

[@theyanderechann]

​@@SoldierOfAlIahOttomans called it Konstantiniyye means Constantine's City.

[@digitalliquid5159]

Don’t hold nothing back

[@rocou945]

please, what book are you referring to? I have both books from Mustafa Briggs and there nothing about the Roman Empire or the crusades in either of them. I would love to read it!

[@TheAnsariPodcast]

You probably skipped the intro part where I explained this is a prelude to his upcoming book and our conversation next time will be much more in depth inshallah!

[@jockep-j4035]

So just because he claimed the Ottoman were the continuation it makes it true? Well it’s been plenty of people claiming that…

[@afshantarannumu1875]

Selaam Alaikum. Brother Mustafa. Please can you explain about the Persjan empire. Wich was more bagger and stronger. Than Rome empire.

[@mr.archivity]

No… the two empires were somewhat on par with one prevailing over the other at different times. Just that when the Roman Empire was united the wars were only fought on Persian territories and only with the Sassanids and the Byzantines the wars were fought on both territories.

[@BanofBenwick]

the brother has the puzzle pieces, just got a couple he's has to turn the right way

[@BanofBenwick]

Nice also to see the young brothers coming into this knowledge, but a lot of this was common knowledge among a segment of "black" Americans 35-40 years ago, long before the internet. "Black" Americans from this time got seduced and lost the knowledge. Crazy though that these young brother didnt grow up with this as a part of their consciousness though.

[@natos2334]

Its because of the fbi who unalived black american intellectuals like malcolm x and so many black panters who actually tried to build and teach their black communities. I recently saw the black messiah. Im not black nor anerican but it really got me angry

[@sediajabbie9298]

Mashallah

[@FM4343.]

What's the name of his book?

[@TheAnsariPodcast]

You probably skipped the intro part where I explained this is a prelude to his upcoming book and our conversation next time will be much more in depth inshallah!

[@ulhasanzk2249]

Alexander when all the way to Pakistan. Thats why al ot of pakstanis are named Sikandar

[@blablablablabla101]

Yes and blond with blue eyes

[@kayzar293]

​@blablablablabla101 that's a myth. Genetic studies have shown scant little Macedonian DNA in those mountainous people. People who have existed there have always expresses those features in the minority of people

[@santos7382]

I love him in allah sakes

[@maimunafaal9499]

You've missed out the most important empire and where writing all began. Ancient Egypt who were practicing Islam.

[@mr.archivity]

In ancient Egypt they weren’t Muslims. They were pagans, then converted to Christianity and then to Islam.

[@maimunafaal9499]

@@mr.archivity I disagree! Islam has been around since the beginning of time. When I say Islam, I’m talking about the true Islam, not the Islam we see today. Islam is science and a way of life. Unfortunately most Muslims today aren’t practicing true Islam. Today’s Islam is a false practice, they follow a Hadith which was not authorised and has been made into a religion. Islam isn’t a religion! True Islam is being in tune with natural and the universe. It’s a spiritual practice.

[@LShannon-wr6zx]

I just came across this channel, Big Up to all the Muslims out there with these channels, educating the Ummah.. these topics on History is explained in a fantastic way that helps us digest the information, Thank you! JazarkAllah khairun!

[@kareem.10]

To claim Arabs in the Abbasid Dynasty preserved Greco-Roman knowledge is incorrect. The Abbasids were mostly Persian (former Sassanians that Umar conquered) with some Arab admixture and this admixture was mainly in the elite families. They claimed decent from Abbas in order to have legitimacy after they overthrew The Umayyads (who were Arab) which they had been plotting for generations. These former Sassanian Abbasid Persians were already Hellenized from the time of Alexander the Great. They didn't need to conquer Shams from The Umayyads to gain access to Greco-Roman knowledge.

[@mijr9075]

You sound like a bitter shia Relax

[@reziinho1414]

yeah a lot of Arab nationalists want to erase Persia's immense contribution to Islam. Most the scientists in the Golden Age was Persians, 5/6 of the Hadith writers were Persian etc. From 900 AD onwards the Turks and Persians kept Islam alive not the arabs

[@user-wf1rl9mo2e]

On what weed are you??!! It looks like excellent stuff!!!

[@kungfufreak360]

You mad? 😂

[@sonofthesun8543]

I highly disagree with Rome being the greatest empire, it’s definitely ancient Egypt by far, but regardless great podcast

[@edinnzen5216]

Rome was by far greater then Egypt with out a doubt it was much more powerful,bigger, richer, more "civilized" for its time educated and more advanced in all areas .

[@sonofthesun8543]

@@edinnzen5216 the most common scripts in the world descend from Egyptian scripts which include the Roman script , oldest and most accurate calendar Sudan/egypt, oldest religious text Egypt, not to mention influenced the most common religions on the planet Christianity ,Islam, oldest medical text Egypt, oldest mathematical text Egypt, literally invented paper,was far more advanced than Rome, all Rome was, was leftover civilization from the Greeks and Etruscans, Greeks received their script, gods and philosophy from Egypt, through direct contact and second hand contact through their vassal phonecian states, ancient Egypt is seen as the global standard for human civilization, not to mention it lasted longer than Greece and Rome combined, you can’t even compare the two when it comes to contributions to humanity, not to mention its ruins are light years more impressive than any Roman coliseum

[@mohammedchan4352]

​@@sonofthesun8543 guys both were really good

[@mr.archivity]

@@sonofthesun8543​​⁠​​⁠​​⁠​​⁠​​⁠most of what you wrote is wrong… Paper? Egypt used papyrus and only there as the other countries used parchments. The calendar wasn’t that accurate and even now we use a modified version of the Julian calendar. It wasn’t more advanced than Rome 🤦🏼‍♂️ The only thing I can agree on is that it was older and that include religious text and first forms of math in the Mediterranean area (first forms of math doesn’t mean advanced or new formulas). Every civilization in the Mediterranean area influenced each other 🤦🏼‍♂️ even Egypt was influenced by the Greek colonies that started there. Greece didn’t receive their religious belief as it is proved that it had different sources. Romans included Greek culture only later and somewhat at the same time they included the Egypt culture in their own. So no, it isn’t a leftover from Greek colonies in Magna Grecia. Phoenicians weren’t vassals of the Hellenic states. Egypt isn’t the base for modern civilization 🤦🏼‍♂️ it is seen as one of the fulcrum or starting points for civilization, but not as the base as modern civilizations use the Roman one as their base. Even in modern Egypt or China they use a modified and evoluted form of the French law system that is based on the old Roman law. The contribution to humanity are literally online 🤦🏼‍♂️ you can check who did more and who did less. Instead of spreading misinformation read the actual Egypt history because it is great.

[@Bruh-cg2fk]

Constantine XI was the last Roman Emperor

[@joemama560]

Greco/Latin/Christian is not the same as Turkic/Persian/Islamic. I'm sorry but these arguments are silly. The Sultans practiced the Harem system and meantime the Byzantines couldn't even hand off the crown because half of them were chaste or celibate, the culture from the very top to the very bottom are complete Binary if you are comparing Roman-esque culture vs Turkic/Bedouin Islamic culture. Yes they(the population) were converted and assimilated but that doesn't mean the people who defeat a people, get to become the people. Even Further, you don't become the people you defeated, you absorb and assimilate them, you only become them if you are the minority and it is a empirial palace/military/aristocracy coup, which the failure of the byzantine state and the ongoing wars with the sultantes, were definitely not. It was a societal collapse. If that's the case, Africans are Europeans with a tan, because they all got conquered by white colonialism and started speaking either french or english and adopted christianity(in places that weren't already practicing coptic or ethiopian christanity. lol or put another way, it's like saying the white south afrikans are africans. LOL

[@theyanderechann]

Ottoman was the last dynasty of Rome but not Greek. Ottoman was a dynasty of a state not a nation. Like British King Charles III is not a Canadian but he is king of the kingdom of Canada. Lol

[@illman8876]

The roman empire was never muslim. Ever. There were muslims who lived in the eastern roman empire, but the empire itself was NEVER EVER muslim.

[@JimiMiles]

No one said that bro. He said they were "part of the roman empire" and the Eastern part was more prosperous than the west.

[@theyanderechann]

Ottomans were the last Roman dynasty and they were muslim.

[@benjaminsavo-bertollinic]

Accept in Ahkir Al Zaman timeline, the romans are muslims or Mohammadans because of the unity of Israelite-Christianity and coalisation with Islam in ethnic and intermede part.

[@user-lt6jf3bq6e]

Wow he creates his own universe. Please read yuval noah harari Sapiens!

[@kareem.10]

The Muslim world didn't enter into its Golden Age as a result of the Abbasids accessing Greco-Roman knowledge. The Umayyads and Moors had already demonstrated world leading architectural and spiritual knowledge long before the Persian Abbasids overthrew them.

[@nadera1830]

The greek wouldn't entered to its golden age without taking the knowledge under the feet of Ancient Egyptian and the other civilization. Have you heard of diffusionaism?

[@kareem.10]

@nadera1830 Exactly. I wanted to add that detail but didn't want the post to be too long. Thanks.

[@KD400_]

It ended because of the siege of baghdad in 1258

[@duibheasaoreilly167]

And they refuse to admit that muslims reached the moon 3 centuries before the Americans.

[@mohammedchan4352]

What the heck are you talking about

[@duibheasaoreilly167]

@@mohammedchan4352: muslim make-believe history, such as Erdogan the Turk's claim that a muslim landed on the moon in the 17th century. You should direct your question to HIM.

[@germling9596]

The Eastern "Roman" Empire was decidedly Greek, it’s the reason for the Catholic/Orthodox split and the Latin/Greek conflicts during the crusades were one reason for the conquest of Constantinople. Furthermore, a lot of states claimed the title of Roman emperor, incl. the Holy Roman and Russian empires. Also Arab, Persian and Turkic empires all existed next to the Byzantine empire for centuries prior to 1453. A lot of knowledge flowed West to East, while things such as fashion moved the other way; a saying at the time was that the Arabs became Greeks and the Greeks became Barbarians.

[@mr.archivity]

The eastern Roman Empire became Greek only from 600AD with the “hellenization” as their territories reduced to the Greek speaking ones and that sparkled a sentiment to return to their Hellenic roots.

[@Cxesar]

King menelik was a doo doo

[@FullmuurishAlchemist]

Soooo what about the Roman Catholic church?

[@TheAnsariPodcast]

We address that in the video. Did you watch?

[@mahdnova3465]

Bruv hes talking nonsense mate. RUM are white people from europe

[@billiondollarbaby973]

The intellectual traditions of the ancient Greeks and Romans are a regurgitation of the intellectual traditions of ancient KMT! If you read the Greek Classics, they admit this. The Umayyad’s, Abassids, Almoravids and the Almohade all realized this!

[@faleilham8334]

Fatih Mehmet II. When there's no enemy tried to inveded Anatolia be laik

[@d0rktruth]

🩶🕌

[@billiondollarbaby973]

Western Rome didn’t fall. It became a church, an extremely powerful political and militaristic institution. You might have heard of it.🤷🏾‍♂️

[@mahdnova3465]

Yh hes confused, hes so anti western to the point that, he doesnt even know that RUM are Europeans

[@Wazir.Akbar.Khan.wardag]

Yes true germanic groups and Western roman Europe united to establish their rule across Europe

[@onlinesupply7142]

the roman empire and greeks learned from the assyrians and egyptians...

[@fezfez1467]

Check out a book called black athenia, to understand deliberate removal of link between Greek and egypt where the impact on European culture has been written out by them to avoid acknowledging that their culture is founded on Egypt intellectual legacy

[@mahdnova3465]

Okay now you wrong mate. Rum is not a geographic place, Rum is an ethnic group. Romans are Europeans or western europeans. A roman can have blue eyes or be ginger. But a roman can never be arab or African. Because they not (If my parents came from Africa and now iam born in England, iam i English? No!) Same way even though Turks took over Roman places that doesnt make them romans

[@colettescotti2219]

Ancient Rome went into Africa and the middle east... it was not just Anglo saxons!

[@kayzar293]

Lol everything you wrote is nonsense. Romans absorbed all ethnicities and made them Roman. Even the Roman soldiers who manned Hadrians wall in Scotland were African

[@mahdnova3465]

@@kayzar293 just simply what is a roman to you?

[@Bruh-cg2fk]

Ottomans are not Romans lol

[@LostKnowledge15]

This is nonsense and a revisionist view of history. The eastern Roman Empire was predominantly Greek Orthodox and Christian. In fact during the reign of Constantine, Islam didn’t exist as a religion

[@TheAnsariPodcast]

Please List the modern day countries that were apart of the Roman empire.

[@morndiaye3546]

Mehmet II has entered the chat...😂

[@genejohnson8631]

We don't need emotions but facts

[@reziinho1414]

@@TheAnsariPodcast they were all Christian countries before they got Islamized

[@giannisgiannopoulos791]

So, you tell us that your Greek friend from... Baltimore visited Greece for the first time, saw the Greeks using olive oil (Olea Europaea), and concluded that the Greeks are your pals from the Middle East! I suppose that you should have responded that when the Greeks were using olive oil, your ancestors were using sand to cook, plus, as another sign of their wisdom, the Greeks have never believed in false and mad prophets. I've been living in Greece for all my life! Thank you. Also, the Roman Emperor was "faithful in Christ the God, Basileus and Autokrator of the Romans", thus, a Muslim Turk from the steppe of Asia could have never been Caesar of the Romans. Of course, as a victor, he could proclaim himself also as the Caliph of Baghdad or the Emperor of Japan or something! The thing here is, who recognizes him as such? None!

[@ministerericmuhammad9319]

As Salaam Alaikum Are you the same Bilal Muhammad who has written about Master Fard Muhammad having gotten his measurements of the Earth from some World Almanac 1928? If so, have you invited a representative of The Real Nation of Islam to offer a rebuttal to your "findings"? Farrakhan's movement doesn't count. It is NOT The Nation of Islam.

[@mamadouba4259]

Hi. I'm following you from Sénégal. I'm really interested in your books. I would like to have your whatsap number and your mail adress. Hafizaka Allah